Lauren Boebert Explains Her Vote To Release The Epstein Files

Rep. Lauren Boebert (R, CO-4) is making headlines with her steadfast support for a petition in the U.S. House to release the Epstein Files, despite apparent pressure from the Trump administration during a closed-door Situation Room session with the President and members of his cabinet.Lauren joins Ryan for an exclusive conversation on exactly what happened during that meeting.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
No particular order. We've talked crime, but what about energy
in this state? What would your energy policy be?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh, my gosh, oil and gas needs to come back
here in a big way. I'm from Louisiana, Texas. I've
got family in the old field industry, tons of friends,
and what a great way to put a shot in
the arm for the economy here in Colorado. It's a
no brainer. I'm I talked to a young girl today,

(00:29):
twenty three years old, and I said, what's your biggest concerns?
I was out doing some businesses. He's like, oh, thanks
for asking, And she said paying my electrical bill, and
a lady said that and then crime was another for
this girl. She goes, I lived in an apartment complex
where my car was caught on fire, and so affordability

(00:53):
and energy comes in that. But yeah, I'm convinced that
this western conservative mindset of the people of Colorado needs
to come back, you know which I've always I always
looked at Colorado's people who are gritty, but with grace.
They work hard, they love hard. That's why it's been

(01:17):
very unselling to see what we would call on the
military and the intelligence or an insurgency that happened a
number of years ago, so in essence, we're kind of
doing a counterinsurgency to take it back.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Who is Victor Marx? The question that we've been asking
on this program. And Victor appeared with Dan Kaplis yesterday
for the entire four o'clock hour, his first hour of
the program, so we started to get more of a
complete picture and an.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Answer to that question, who is Victor Marx?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
And for those of you that are listening, you may
have heard him for the very first time there. That
was his first full in my calculus here that I know,
sit down, extended interview and he granted that to our
own Dan Kaplis and our thanks to Roger Hudson for
helping make that happen too. He's now running comms for

(02:10):
Victor and Roger does a great job with that, and
we're looking forward hopefully to many more appearances of Victor
on this program.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
And then also of course with Dan, his.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Lovely wife Eileen also in studio with us yesterday and
their dog Reagan. He is a trained service animal and
a very pleasant dog and really enjoyed having you know,
I'm a big dog guy, big animal guy, and so
that that bodes well. I think Victor and how he
and his wife Eileen treat their animals, And if you

(02:43):
have a thought on Victor Marx five seven seven three nine,
want to hear from you via the text line. Got
some more clips and highlights here from his appearance with
Dan yesterday. They finally kind of got where the rubber
meets the road and where his stance on policy issues are.
And that's that's where I am, and I imagine many
of you are, like, I want to know what he

(03:05):
plans to do if elected governor, and certainly if he's
our nominee as a Republican, where does he stand on
the issues? How does he articulate those policy positions? Now, granted,
he's kind of coming at this as an outsider, and
there is a lot of appeal in that. Donald Trump
kind of showed the way that you don't have to
be a career politician to be successful in a position

(03:28):
like this. If he's a natural born leader and he
does run this organization in which he goes around the
world and looking to save children from oppression in various situations.
He has many stories about that, and he wrote a
book about it as a matter of fact, and He
talks about that later on in this conversation, but on

(03:49):
for instance, on energy policy. And this is where I
think Roger will be a good fit and ally for him.
How where's the how now he's talking about I want
to surround myself with good people.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
You know, one of the best qualities I think of
any leader is to know what you don't know, and
don't pretend to know something if you don't really know it.
And to his credit, I don't think Victor has done that,
at least on policy. However, You've got to have a plan,
you got to have a strategy, You've got to have
some kind of template of this is what I want
to do, this is how I want to do it.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
This is how I'm going to get there.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
These are the people I'm enlisting and in trusting for
this purpose and clearly define that because we need as
Republicans if we're going to have any shot of winning
this election. And I do feel that it is winnable.
It's within the realm of outcomes. It's certainly at best
an inside straight draw. It about a poker analogy. But

(04:43):
one of the reasons I like a representative Scott Bottoms
or a senator. Barb Kirkmeyer is they have experience under
the Golden Dome at the General Assembly. They know how
the gears of power work. And I know that's a
turnoff for a lot of you, you know, the grassroots.
This movement is it's anathema to ah. They're part of
the establishment. Oh, they're rhinos, and they don't stand up

(05:06):
for us. And there are certain things that have come
up that I go, wait a minute, why did you cave.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
On that way.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I understand you're in the minority and there's only so
much that you can do, but just as a for instance,
and this is what I would like to ask Victor
Marx about. I know Barb has spoken to it, but
this was a sour note that Republicans struck when it
came to competency. We've talked about this issue at length

(05:33):
on this show and how much it really riles me
up that it is so easy for a defendant now
in Colorado to walk into a courtroom. I'm crazy. I
didn't know what I was doing. I was insane and
I have no control over my actions. So Solomon Gallaghan,
you get to walk because you're a nut job. And
there's been several other examples along these lines. Sheriff Steve

(05:55):
Rams has had a deal with this in World County,
where he has no choice, has to let this guy go.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Not competent stand r they go shrink shopping, as I
put it.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
And I've had this conversation with George Brockler twenty third DA,
another good friend of mine, and of this program. We
have to give our law enforcement and our prosecutors the
power to be able to put people away who are
not fit to be in society. Now, if that's in
a mental institution, okay, let's reopen the asylums. Sheriff Steve

(06:26):
Reems has I think it's hundreds of beds available in
his jail.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Wow, I don't want to put them in jail. They're
not mentally fit, are they though? Aren't they?

Speaker 3 (06:38):
There was a trial and this still haunts me, and
it should haunt every member of the General Assembly, in
particular Republicans, but the Democrats too, that when the judge
asked this individual, do you know what it means to
be incompetent to stand trial? And you know what the
defendant said, Yeah, it means all of this goes away.

(06:59):
Now if you're competent enough to recognize the ramifications of
your actions that by and large, that in and of itself,
that inherently means you are sane and competent. An insane
person will mess their pants in front of the judge,
and maybe somebody would do that intentionally, but we're talking

(07:20):
about truly mentally ill whip out their people.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
That's what the bar should be.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
It should not be just you find a crack psychiatrist
that goes, ah, this person's.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Not they're crazy, they can't stand try. Oh, then then
that's good enough for us.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
We've seen this play out, like we mentioned in the
Gallagan case, not acceptable. This guy identifies as trans, he's
a registered sex offender in Pueblo. He tries to snatch
a fifth grader off an elementary school playground during recess,
broad daylight.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
And but for the grace of God and that young man.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Being nimble and escaping the clutches of this madman, that
was he safe in that endeavor. And then encounter but
Amy Patton, Oh, she came out, you know, much much
later after the blanket hit the fan. Gotta watch my
language on this one. But you know what I'm talking about,
And she said, well known, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
We got to revisit that, but there's only so much
we can do.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Rather than come at it like you know, a true
prosecutor what you are. You're tasked with protecting your constituents
for whom you were elected as the district attorney. As
a prosecutor, you don't hear George Brockler having a press
conference coming on this show getting a mealy mouthed boo.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Well, he puts his foot dog, but.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
This is ridiculous. This is hamstringing our department. We need
to put bad guys in bad gales behind bars, period.
That needs to be the standard. And he calls it out.
Even though it's important for George to maintain relationships with judges,
some of them are getting soft and.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
You cannot be afraid to call that out. So where
I go.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Back to in the governor's race is Senator Barb Kirkmeyer
owes it to us to come on and go, you
know what we botch that. This is a big swing
and amiss and we've got to revisit this. But there's
only so much Republicans can do. Because Democrats got what
they wanted and some Republicans went along with it, not
either not thinking to question it or miscalculating as to
how bad that whole competency crap really was for our

(09:37):
citizenry here in Colorado, for our safety, our public safety,
to know that Solomon Gallaghan, because of Colorado's bat blank laws,
gets to room free and be released back into the public.
In what universe is that a sane outcome? It's not so,
Victor Marx. It is incumbent upon him clearly define his

(10:01):
policy positions and present them for the voters in the primary,
to participate in forums and debates where he is challenged,
where he is tested on his knowledge of the issues.
You got to know him, You got you can't just
show up for the test. You've got to study for
the test. You've got to gather the information. You've got
to process your positions. Where do you stand? How do

(10:23):
I finally point these out articulate them in bullet point fashion, Papa?
How can I go into a debate with Michael Bennett
and be able to joust.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
With him and not just go aw shucks? You know,
I have none. I'm not a politician.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
No, no, no, no, that routine that's going to wear off
real quick. I'm just saying I'm calling a spade a spade.
I'm calling balls and strikes. You might you might be
enamored with the force of personality of Victor Marx and
his resume and what he's accomplished and what he's done
the stories that we've heard. But not only does he

(10:59):
need to firmly articularly those positions.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
There's a lot of wild stuff out that he has.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Posted that we have gone over on this show that
needs to be fleshed out, because, folks, if he doesn't
come on and let's say, do it with me on
this show, God help him if he's got to sit
down with Kyle Clark in nine News, or if he's
confronted with it in a debate. How did you come
into possession of a vehicle you.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Were pulled over?

Speaker 3 (11:27):
You said it was a righteous stop, but the registration
it belonged to a guy who Victor claims attempted to
murder him. Okay, all right, let's play that out and
say that we take that at face value. Why and
how did you come into possession of this guy's car?
And further to that point, why did you think it

(11:49):
was okay to go driving around this guy tried to
murder me? I took his car, it's registered in his name.
Oh well, if I get pulled over, So what it
doesn't add up up? That needs to be fleshed out,
That needs to be explained along with again this is
Apple research. He's handing the other side. Kyle Clark will
roast him on this. He has going Wait, wait, let

(12:13):
me tell you the full story. Let me paint in
the margins here in color, within the lines and tell
you exactly what happened. And that goes to his PBS
Hawaii appearance, which we broke down in this program as well.
Now his story, he is always claimed that he has
come from a very challenging childhood and background in which
he was abused I think by more than one stepfather.

(12:34):
But in one case, his story to PBS Hawaii was
that a stepfather of his had taken him to a
remote location where there was a house or a cabin
with a third individual, a man, and in this house,
Victor had a gun placed in his hand and was
ordered by a stepfather appointed the back of the head

(12:55):
of this guy and kill him, shoot him in the
head and blow his brains out. Hesitated, he comments that
you know whether it was pounds per square inch? She
was a young maybe in his teens. Again, these are
parts of the story that are pertinent, and we'd like
to know that he couldn't pull the trigger for whatever reason.
Stepdad then puts his hand over Victor's hand on the gun,

(13:17):
over the trigger, finger pulls it, blows the guy's brains out.
They bury him in the house right there. Stepfather tells Victor,
that's your first kill. And if you ever tell anybody
about this, your fingerprints around the gun, you'll be implicated.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
In the murder.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Okay, okay, that's out there, folks. I didn't put it
out there. Victor put it out there. It is appo
research for Democrats. They will feast upon that. They will
run it in ads unless he comes out, gets in
front of it. This is what it's p R one
O one and this is why I'm so glad Roger
Hudson is running comms for him. You got to get
out in front of this thing, explain it detail by detail,

(13:53):
and really go into that.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
You can't just leave that hanging. That's that is in politics.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
That's Michael Dukakis in the tank type stuff with the helmet.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Zach won't remember that, but many of you will. You
got to be in it to win it.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Here's more from Victor Marx's appearance with Dan Kaplis yesterday
talking about healthcare reform.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
What do you do about that tough not of healthcare?

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, What would the Victor Marx administration do about healthcare?

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Well, one, to first surround myself with the experts, because
to make promises from here without having the experts around it,
that's not fair. I know this that being in a
position to make good decisions and have favor with the
Trump administration, that's going to help a lot. And we

(14:47):
already have people contacting us. It's I think paulicism of
the leaders have painting themselves on a corner of desperation
that ends up affecting people, not them. Healthcare is just
one of them. And you know what, We've had children.
One of our children was born here. We've buried Island's
mom here, and we have five children, five grandkids. We

(15:11):
want three of our children to move here with our grandkids.
But they're waiting for the state to change. And I'll
tell you something else, recording that thousands, thousands, there will
be an unbelievable influx of people moving to Colorado. When
I'm elected. We hear it, we see it. It's hard to.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Victor markson with Dan Kaplis yesterday for the full four
o'clock hour. You can find it on the podcast a
version of Dan's program as well. And of course Dan's
primary issue, it is paramount above all others. It was
a point of contention in the Senate race. You might
recall last time around with Joe O. Day, who was
kind of murky on his position on abortion. That did
not set well with Dan, and Dan could not support him.

(15:54):
Dan did not vote for him. So he asked Victor
Marx directly about his stance on abortion here, and it's
a pretty clear answer for me.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
A foundational issue has always been the life issue, right,
because if they kill you before you're born, all these
other issues don't matter much. So what would your policy
be on abortion?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Well, I'm a child advocate, always have been. It'd be
hypocritical for me not to protect children and the woman
who are humans. So there's only two choices, life or death,
and I'm for life.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
And as governor of the state of Colorado, is there
anything that you would want to do in particular to
try to stop children from being killed before birth?

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Absolutely, well one the people voted. It's in you know
the people. So I can't go in and you know,
do the magical trick. But what we can do is
help women, help young women who would have an alternative.
You know, I work with doctor Dobson. When the ultra
cell machines and that came out, baby started being saved.

(17:00):
I think we can help young women and women in general.
They don't have to go all the way to killing
a child. There are millions of people that would want
to adopt a child right now, So providing for them.
And you know, I hear this from people who are
pro choice, you don't care about kids. Afterwards, I'm like,

(17:20):
who They're like, what about a kid who's you know,
can't be brought into a stable environment and be abused
and whatnot. Well, guess what. I was a kid. The
night my mom got pregnant, my father shove rosary beats
down the throw and put a pistol to her head.
My mother had four other children she could have justifiably
by culture killed me, aborted me, got rid of me.

(17:43):
But she didn't. And did I have a hell of
a childhood? I sure did. But you know what, I
never gave up whether I was being tortured, whether I
was being beaten. I never gave up. I just wanted
to get older. Guess what if my mother would have
awarded me, there would be forty five thousand women and

(18:05):
children just in the Middle East that wouldn't have been
impacted our lives. So yeah, I don't think we abandoned.
I don't think we beat down. I think we help
help them come to a different position.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
The most interesting man in the field of twenty running
on the Republican side for governor in twenty twenty six
will be part of the primary Victor Marx.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
He's drawn a lot of traction in this.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Race, getting endorsements from Hidie Ganaal and our next guest
representative Lauren Bobert, in the News because she is pressing
forward for the release of the Epstein files. It's a
point of consternation on much of the mainstream media. She
joins us for an exclusive conversation next on Ryan Schuling Live.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
This is an administration who's going to continue to be
transparent and honest, and we'll see what comes of it.
But I'm there was no pressure, and I mean everybody
was great and worked at as well with you a
little degrees that would have been lost under Joe Biden's
leadership if he ever let it all.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
But she don't feel like you have been Marty's lives
and back ALRLD when you're writing VI we are a
position here.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
No, I don't feel marginalized at all.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
President Trump is an amazing man. I stand by him.
I stand by his administration and everything that he is
doing to fix the mess of the Biden administration.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Presentative Lauren Bolbert in our fourth Congressional district right here
in Colorado making headlines with her push, which I support wholeheartedly,
for a full release whatever can be released in the
Epstein files. She's drawn some heat from this and some
attention from some unlikely sources in the media. We'll talk
more about that as she joins us now on Ryan
Schuling Live. Representative Bolbert, thank you, as always for your time.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
Ryan. It is wonderful to join you today now.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Because you quote quoted this on X and use the
big eyes emoji, I felt it was worth sharing with
our audience and get to heat your reaction to it
on air. This is none other than Comrade Kyle nine
News Kyle Clark offering up some praise for the aforementioned
Congresswoman Bobert.

Speaker 7 (20:11):
It sure looks like Congresswoman Lauren Bobert did a brave
thing today. Few people in politics.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Are more polarizing.

Speaker 7 (20:19):
But put politics aside and consider what is being reported
by The New York Times, CNN, and others that President
Trump directly pressured Bobert to help him stop the release
of the Epstein files by pulling her support off a
congressional petition and sinking that effort. Reports say the Trump
White House also brought Bobert into the situation room for

(20:39):
a meeting with the Attorney General and the FBI Director,
who we should note are accused of using the Justice
Department to punish people who defy the president, and by
all appearances, Bobert did defy the president, despite the pressure
and the reported threats, stood firm against the wishes of
her party and her president. Not on a political or

(21:04):
a policy issue where the public is going to hold
a wide variety of views, but on the most basic
of issues that should unite us all that pedophiles don't
deserve protection, even pedophiles with powerful friends. Now, some of
this is going to be speculation, because this apparent pressure

(21:24):
campaign happened behind closed doors. But if we want courage
out of political leaders, then citizens must be willing to
recognize and appreciate courage from the politicians that they like
the least. It certainly appears that every American who cares
about kids and accountability and transparency owes Lauren Bobert their thanks.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Now, Lauren, the platitudes are nice, but how do you
respond to his characterization of what went on there?

Speaker 6 (21:57):
Well, there's always going to be characterizations that don't align
with the truth when coming from those in the media
who I'm pretty sure he was alluding that I'm his
least favorite politician. But you know it, certainly there were
a lot of conversations that were going on yesterday. I

(22:17):
had committed to go to the White House and have
a conversation. I had questions. This was a meeting that
was supposed to take weeks take place weeks ago, but
of course, the Democrats have kept the government shut down
for more than forty days, the longest government shutdown in
US history, and this was all so they could pad

(22:41):
one point five trillion dollars onto a clean spending bill.
So the meeting was postponed, and I agreed to come
as soon as I arrived back into town, which I did,
and so I was in the situation room, as reported
with Attorney General Pam Bondi, with the Deputy Attorney Todd

(23:01):
Blanche and UH and then of course FBI Director Cashptel
and the others, and we were discussing what has been released,
what is yet to really be released, things that they
are struggling getting their hands on, things that they are
bound by law to not release. But also I sat
at that table and asked if they would simply meet

(23:23):
with the victims, something that has not taken place yet,
and I did receive commitments to that yesterday. I don't
believe that they were tied to any any political action,
legislative action that would follow by myself. Attorney General Tam
Bondi and Cashptel both eagerly want to meet with victims,

(23:45):
and so UH we are working on contacting victims and
connecting them with those agencies so they can have those
top level conversations, not with someone who is just answering
the phones in an office and taking notes. But that
was addressed. There were ore FOYA requests that have been

(24:06):
submitted by victims for their own cases. So they can
have information about their case, information that they don't have
to date.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
And you know that was something that we discussed, being
able to look into what was requested and getting that
to the victims. But there's there's an estate that still
has information that they have not fully released to the
Oversight committee. There are things that the courts have sealed
and have protective orders around that we have been unable

(24:37):
to access, and hopefully this legislation will be at the
very least a step to unlocking some of that by
law and releasing this information. I stand with the victims,
not just of Jeffrey Epstein and Glen Maxwell and who

(24:57):
whomever it's if there is other I presume there are
that are in these files, but also all of the
victims that have been trafficked and certainly those who have
been overshadowed by this, maybe feeling that their situation doesn't
matter because it doesn't have the attention that Jeffrey Epstein does.

(25:18):
This is not a topic that I want to spend
every single day on. I did make campaign promises to
do what I could to release these files and get
not only information to victims, but accountability and justice for
those victims.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
As well.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
There are many things that I'm working on in tandem,
and I try to put all of my energy into
everything that I'm working on. So we just got the
government reopened. Took that vote last night. Now there is
another site to remove the provision that senators snuck in
to a clean spending bill. They did sneak in a

(25:59):
dirty five hundred thousand dollars lawsuit provision for eight Republican
senators who the Biden administration confiscated phone records of without
their knowledge. And I think that is absolutely disgusting. And
we have commitments that that will be immediately repealed, and

(26:20):
that will be something that I will be very loud
on if it doesn't. But all of these things are
working hand in hand. I'm grateful to the President, to
the administration, to our Attorney General, and to our FBI
director for meeting with me, for all of the other
White House officials who were involved in this. I did
leave my name on the petition, and my only disappointment

(26:41):
is that the Democrats do get a victory by allowing
their newest member to be the two hundred and eighteenth signature.
Something that I advocated for was just let us sign it.
Or just bring it to the floor to avoid that.
But here we are regardless. Hopefully we get justice for.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
These fix Representative Lauren Bobert joining us the full detailed
explanation on her stance there, Lauren, it's a stance that
I admire. It's one that you and I have discussed
at length. You haven't blinked on this, You've been resolute,
You've been consistent. And the one point that I'll compare
this is the part that drives me nuts, and I'm
sure it does with you as well, because, as you
have insinuated, you have met with some of these victims

(27:21):
of Jeffrey Epstein. I covered at length from the very
beginning the scandal involving Larry Nasser, who have used a
lot of gymnasts at Michigan State University for Team USA,
and I met with those victims and their families, and
my whole stance on this is, yeah, Okay, you want
to protect the identities of the victims, but there may
very well be victims, Lauren, who are willing and wanting

(27:44):
to come forward who don't want their names redacted or
their identities protected. And to me, it feels a little
bit like a smoke screen, like, wow, we can't release
this information because well, you know, the victims. It's like, well,
wait a minute, if we account for that, you're talking
about some of these other kind of levers with judges.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Blocking release of certain information.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
But it doesn't set well with me, and that we
might be protecting some names here for reasons that are
not above board. What does your read on that situation
from the victims perspective? But also you and I agree
on this Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Let's get it out there.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
Yes, and I do agree with that greatly. And I
think by using the guise of protecting victims, you would
naturally inadvertently protect the guilty in that. And there certainly
are victims. There were the press conference at the United
States Capital the day that this discharged petition was beginning

(28:42):
to collect signatures and introduced, and there were more than
a dozen victims there showing their faces, telling their stories.
And they certainly understand that there are some victims who
want to remain private. No one is trying to uncover
them and out and bring publicity to those particular victims.

(29:04):
But these women who have come forward and want information,
who have foided the federal government a Freedom of Information
Act request was submitted for their own personal portion of
the case and not being given to them because of
different protective orders and cases that have been sealed. So

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there's information that has to get out, that needs to
get out, and really we need to do this, not
just so there is Swiss justice, if you can call
it that, even at this point since it's been two decades,
but really so we can move on to continuing the
great work that is being done by the Department of Justice,

(29:48):
by the FBI. There have been a tremendous victory this year,
and then it's really a distraction at this point, and
it's being made a big deal politically than it needs
to be. Get the job done, take care of the victims,
hold the guilty accountable, and let's move on with all

(30:09):
of the other things that we promise to deliver. I
have cattle ranchers in my district who are frustrated about Argentina,
about country of origin labeling, about the processing plants. We
have farmers who are selling off their land. We have
small business owners who want to get ahead. The state

(30:31):
of Colorado continues to make it harder and harder to
own a small business. I am here to also fulfill
the promises that I made to deliver for them. And
so this right now is taking up a lot of oxygen.
And that doesn't mean that it's not worthy of that,
but it means we need to do a better job
of actually providing a solution and delivering on this issue

(30:54):
so we can work on the many, many other issues
at hand.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
One more question, and I appreciate your time always, Congressroman
Lauren Bobert joining us. And you know, I always am
suspicious when a Kyle Clark AMANU raju, a Jake Tapper
they're singing your praises. Okay, you and I are both
cynical in this regard, but there was something mentioned here.
I want to give you the opportunity to clear up
exactly what happened in that meeting, the aftermath of it,

(31:18):
where your relationship stands with the President, because this Texter
asks the following, and it's a good point, says nine
News mentioned that you were threatened, Were you threatened in
any way by whom?

Speaker 4 (31:29):
And with what.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
You know there were There were certainly no threats made,
and Kyle Clark did say that a lot of that
would be speculation because this was in a skiff. There
were no devices, there were no there was no recordings.
But I'm not afraid to say if if someone is
coming after me in a negative way and putting pressure
on me. This administration had been very communicative with me.

(31:54):
They have been accessible. They answer my phone calls. The
President called me. You know, it's pretty embarrassing when he
calls me at five o'clock in the morning and I'm
still sleeping, and I'm asked three times in a row.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
I'm sorry to learn.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Were you sleeping?

Speaker 6 (32:06):
Were you sleeping?

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Where are you?

Speaker 6 (32:08):
What time is it there? I'm like, no, no, mister president,
You're right, I don't sleep. It's a sign of weakness.
I would never but but you know they are. They
want to be as transparent as possible, and I do
want this to be a part of President Trump's legacy.
He is the only president to have brought up the
Epstein investigation in his first administration, and unfortunately we're still

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dealing with it in this administration when it could have
been handled under the Biden administration, since the Democrats seemingly
are so on board with this. But there were no threats,
there were no harmed relationships. President Trump is a tough guy.
He can handle a five foot woman telling him that
she's going to do something that she believes in. I

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believe that he actually respects that more than anything. And
there was nothing to put pressure to persuade me, certainly
to get answers and to see if there are other
things that we can do. But as Kyle Clark mentioned
that a lot of that was speculation.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Okay, got the straight scoop directly from her. Follow her
on exit. Lauren Bobert, representing the fourth Congressional District right
here in Colorado. Lauren, thank you for your courage and
tenacity on this issue with the Epstein files. I am
lockstep right there with you and appreciate you joining us
here today.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
Thanks so much, and well, hopefully we have a lot
more to talk about now that the government's open.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
There we go, Representative Lauren Bobert right here on Ryan
Schuling Live.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
We wrap it all up after this.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Kyle Clark un anything, and again I question his motives
his eyes took a stand against Trump. I don't see
it that way Representative Lauren Bobert, but she does deserve
praising credit for being resolute on that issue. It's not
exactly kind of blending in with the orthodoxy on this.
For whatever reason that they've been slow walking the release

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of these Epstein files. I'm with Lauren one hundred percent.
I know many of you, if not most of you,
are as well. Let's release the files, let the chips
fall where they may. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, and
those who are guilty should be shamed in the public arena.
So our thanks to Congresswoman Lauren Bobert for joining us.

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Also to all of you for tuning in. Reminder that
Dan Kaplis is coming up next. I'll talk to you again.
That's all for me from here for now on Ryan
Schuling life