November 11, 2025 • 34 mins
Leanne Morgan joins Ryan to discuss her comedy special 'Unspeakable Things,' just launched on Netflix, as she winds down her 'Just Getting Started' tour at the tail end of calendar year 2025.
In addition to her new standup special, her new Netflix sitcom "Leanne" was recently picked up for a second season by Netflix.
Also, Ryan reflects on the power of clean comedy on today's entertainment landscape - with other Tennessee acts like Leanne (Henry Cho, Nate Bargatze) - and an episode of Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee where Jerry Seinfeld and Norm MacDonald reflect on the career of Rodney Dangerfield taking a negative turn with more profanity in his act.
In addition to her new standup special, her new Netflix sitcom "Leanne" was recently picked up for a second season by Netflix.
Also, Ryan reflects on the power of clean comedy on today's entertainment landscape - with other Tennessee acts like Leanne (Henry Cho, Nate Bargatze) - and an episode of Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee where Jerry Seinfeld and Norm MacDonald reflect on the career of Rodney Dangerfield taking a negative turn with more profanity in his act.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies and gentlemen of my mother.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I don't know if y'all got little girls that mine
would ask me deep, deep questions all the time, for example,
questions about the solar system. And finally one day I said, baby,
I didn't pay attention in school. Is there anything you'd
like to know about young and the rest us?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
This is my take on snowskin.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I had to get all those little children dressed with
all those layers, and then I'd had to put ski
boots on little children and they go, no, Mommy, no,
don't put those skey boats on me.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
When we're skinned.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
This baby child, she starts taking off of her clothes off.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I go, what are you doing? And she said, my
butthole edges.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I remember praying to the Lord and saying, what did
I do that was so bad?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
That this is my vacation now.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't know what it is about my husband and
tail room, but he gets in a hotel room, gets
a glazed lookover's eyes, and I feel like I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Doing this and I knew what that land I'm gonna
have to do. Unspeakable things.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Now there it is.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It's the name of her new special on Netflix, Unspeakable Things.
She just wrapped up her just getting started tour, so
of course her first stop right here in Denver with
yours truly, Ryan Schuling. On Ryan Schuling Live, Leanne Morgan
joins us. Leanne, thank you so much for your time,
you angel.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Thank you for having me, my darling.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
That is true now in our conversation just before we
went to air here, you're talking about coming to Denver
Paramount Theater in this Netflix preview skiing in the mountains,
and I know that in this special you mentioned using CBDs,
So it all adds up to when are you coming.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Back to Denver?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Because y'all got all that dough pound there.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
That's uh huh, I've heard.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Okay, honey, I'll be back after I'm going to shoot
this television series January through April, and then I'll go
back on tour. And Denver's always one of the first jobs.
And I love it, and yes, Chuck Morgan loves skin
and I love it. I love I don't I don't
want to do it anymore. I feel like I'm gonna
hurt something. But I like to go up there and
(02:27):
stare at rich people on that mountain and everybody looks
like bo Derek and who are those people? It's just fascinating, honey. Well,
Spark Creek, Colorado is where we would take our little
children and I and stunning.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Well, as legend has it too, that's where President Trump
went for a marriage number one to marriage number two
is on the slopes here in Colorado where Divna ran
into Marlow Maples.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Then well we know what happened from there.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh my lord? And what Avona or Avonka? Okay, that
first one wasn't she had a good scare because she
was from was it she scanned the nineteen or something?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, exactly from her origins in Czechoslovakia or whatnot?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes, oh yeah, oh yeah, Oh lord, that's a tid.
Then I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, maybe she can add that to her third stand
up special.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Her first one, I'm every Woman, was in the top
ten on Netflix, and no doubt this one will be too.
It just came out a week ago and you can
find it there.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So take us through what.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Might be the biggest differences in how you have approached
your stand up routine between the last special this one,
What you took on too early in how do you
put that all together?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Oh, my darling, you know, it's really I'd like to
give you some kind of Jerry Sunfield answer because he's brilliant.
But I'm just up there talking out of my hand.
You know, I think about stories that I want a tale,
and I put it in my phone in notes. I
used to put it on the back of my check book,
(04:05):
and it would make Chuck Morgan some mad. I'd have
all these pieces of paper in my check floating in
my purse that wouldn't be balanced, and it would be
that that I wanted to do. And now I'm trying
to be organized on my phone and I and I'm
just telling stories. You know that God loved these precious
people that are my fans. They feel like they can
(04:26):
relate to because it's all true, you know, just true
stories me calking.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
And one of those you've said that name twice down.
I believe that you're referring to your husband and you
call him Chuck Morgan. You could call him by his
first and last name.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I noticed, yes, and I and people have asked me
about that. I either call Chuck Morgan that because my
mama is always called my daddy Jimmy Flincher and I
so I've just always called him Chuck Morgan, and then
sometimes I call him Chuck Keena if I'm feeling frisky,
(05:01):
Lea Morgan Chuck because he is a big stolic. He
does not think he uses handwarm today. And I think
it's funny that I call him Chokina because he does
not look like a chuckin Now.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
That's got to be a good combination, though, because you
describe him in that hotel room scene. As you mentioned,
you're telling stories. These are things that have actually happened
in your life.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So it's a good fit, right, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
He gives me a lot of material, he really does.
And then people say to take care about you talking
about him. I go, no, he wants me to talk
about him, and he'll say and it's in the spatial,
He'll say, tell him then, so he wants me.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
To talk about him.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Honey, I'm building him a Hollywood career.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I think you really are.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Now, this is very different though, from the premise of
your sitcom. Leon Morgan our guest, and she goes from
Chuck Morgan her husband, to Chuck Laurie, and this is
who she's collaborated with. She likes Chucks and on that
Seinfeld note, She's assembled quite the troop to put together
this sitcom entitled appropriately Leanne.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Here's a sample of that on.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Your pageant days.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Remember the four seas who confidence and posed and cut.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Let's him up, barl. I never thought I'd be divorced.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
This time in my line.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Now I'm danking between Mormon replacement and column oscopy.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You great, thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I used my Cole's cash.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I'm not somebody who goes after married man.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
How lucky man, you nailed it on your first trunk
Old Hawksville.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Kristin Johnston, you'll remember her from Third Rock and the Sun,
plays Leanne's younger sister in this sitcom entitled Leanne. And
also Ryan Styles you might remember him from Whose line
is it any way? And the Drew Carey Show. You
put together quite the cast here Leon you and Chuck Laurie.
How did that all come together?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh, my darling, Well, they said, Chuck low I was
on in in on some of the casting, but he said,
and Christian Johnston has to play your sister. Y'all look alike.
I just think y'all are going to fall in love
with each other. And we and they introduced us at
a lunch and and we were best friends ever since,
(07:12):
and I truly love her and I think it shows
on the on the screen. And so that could not
have been any better. And then Royan Styles, I mean,
is he not brilliant? His character, you know, has cheated
on my character after thirty four years and gets somebody
else pregnant. And we wanted this character to be redeemable,
(07:33):
but and likable and not beat up on him, but him,
you know, be regretful of.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
What he did.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And I think Royan Styles is perfect.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Was he not brilliant in it?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Fantastic?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
And he's just got those chops as you call him
in the business, with that ability to kind of read
and react. I mean a sitcom, everything's coming at you
like one hundred miles an hour, and leanne quite frankly,
this sitcom has been renewed for a second season.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
We're kind of out of the age of sitcoms.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
We touched on Seinfeld a little bit, kind of the
heyday there in the eighties and the nineties. But you've
been able to reinvent it, make it fun again. What
was this formula to doing? Then?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Why do you think it's been so successful?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh, my darling, is that not crazy. Okay. Netflix said
to me with Chuck Laurie, I mean, they'll do anybody
wants to work with Chuck Lorrie first of all, so
I was lucky that way. And then Netflix shit looked
at us. I wanted to do a single cam because
and I grew up watching you know, w k r PE,
Cincinnati Cheers, Fraser Seinfeld, all these shows that I've always
(08:32):
long but I began't I really enjoying partial recreation and
some single camp. So that's what I wanted to do.
And then Netflix said to uns Liam, we think you
can bring back the multicam sitcom and I was like, no,
put that burden on me. And then Hunting with Chuck Lory,
who just is a pro and like the master of that.
(08:54):
I don't know, it just all came together and I'm
just so thankful that it's been so successful. Say to
me all the time, I just feel there's comfort in it,
like I've missed this this formaan and I think people
really miss the multicam sitcom And it was just the
right time.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
And Chuck Laurie as our guest, Leanne Morgan mentions Behind
the Big Bang Theory two and a half Men, two
of the more successful sitcoms over these last ten to
twenty years, and you can watch Leanne on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I got to ask, though, about what a departure this
must be for you.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
The premise of the sitcom being your husband of thirty
three years cheats on you get somebody else pregnant. You
know you're having to go back into the dating world,
aren't you glad you're not this character, Leanna, and you
get to go home to Chuck Morgan.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yes, And let me tell you, Oh those scenes when
I'm with Tim Dailey agent Andrew and I have to
like share a hotel room and a bathroom. Honey, if
I had to get out in day and put on
a babe and say in front of somebody else besides
Chuck morning, and have to go use the bathroom and
you know what I'm saying, I think it would kill me.
(10:03):
I mean, I just don't know how people do it.
And you will not believe the women that have said
to me, Leane, You've given me hope that I can
date again. I'm thinking, I don't know, God love them,
because it would. I don't know how in the world
people do it. It would And you know when Chuck
Laurie asked me. He said, let's I want this to
be the premise. I kind of bucked on it and thought,
but I'm not divorced, and I know I don't want
(10:24):
it based on my real family, but it's based on
my comedy. And then I thought it was brilliant what
he did because everybody knows everybody has been through like
having to get over something and pull your bitch, stretch
up and go again. Like there's a universal theme in
having to start over, and that's what I think people
have connected to in it.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Ben Morgan our guest as you heard to start the segment,
that was her daughter introducing her on stage for the
Netflix special. Family So near and dear to your heart
in your comedy, Leanne, I think that that's what shines
through along with Chuck Morgan, your husband, your daughters who
you mentioned on the ski trips, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
What is that family dynamic?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Like, you're so busy, You're on the road doing the tour,
you're doing the Netflix special, you're doing the Netflix sitcom.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
How do you balance that with work in life?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well, my baby child, the one that had an itchy
butthole in Colorado, she is my professional makeup art and
she went to go from Land and so she's with
me all the time. Thank goodness, I've got her, she says.
Now she's my caregiver, and I don't and she's right.
But you know that we all are enjoying it. Everybody
(11:37):
they watched me do stand up for twenty five years.
But really and truly, I was not very successful until
my early fifties. So I got to raise these children
that and I look at it, the timing of this
could not have been more perfect, because I did get
to raise my own children, and so I do have
all these stories from being normal, you know in Knoxville, Tennessee,
(11:58):
that's what people relate to Bolt. And then all this
to happen to us in this time in my life.
I mean, it's crazy and every day, I mean, we
just cannot malime it. It's so sweet and wonderful and
how people love that everything that's going on. I mean,
it could not have happened at a better time. And
these grand babies seen me on Netflix and there's like
(12:19):
there's Grandmama, and I just keep walking.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It takes me to my final question, Leanne, and that,
as you mentioned, you got to live the life as
a mother and a wife, and that your career very
unusual in this craft of stand up comedy, of doing
a sitcom. It kind of happened later in life for you.
But here you are and you're going on tour, you're
doing all these things. You're enjoying success. You've made your
own success. But there's been talk about how it might
(12:45):
be a lot more difficult in the world of comedy
for a woman. We've seen the names that have broken through,
like Roseanne kind of doing that same thing, that style
of life type comedy. But have you noticed that in
this business the way that you've experienced at firsthand?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Has it? Is it harder for a woman to make it?
And if not, why not for you?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, I think early on when I was auditioning for
Aspen and Comedy Festival and just for lass to see,
Comedy Central was huge and they just did not want
a mama with three little children and all that. It
was more edgy, and it was people like Sarah Silverman
and you know, Chelsea Handler and all that, and they
(13:28):
were they were rising up, but I just it just
was not the right I mean, I was not what
they were looking for. Now, I was out in clubs
and I was working there were more male comedians. I
know that people think, oh, female comedians are not funny.
We get that all the time, but I don't know,
there's just something at this point. I think after COVID
(13:52):
that people want authenticity and like you look at I know,
Nate's a man, but Nate Burgancy's like that's who he
really is. I'm I think something has happened where it's
just a perfect time for this for me and how
what kind of comedy I do? And I'm sure there
are more people coming up, but I do I think
(14:12):
people just want authenticity and I'm probably need to answer
your question like my angel.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Oh you sure did, and I got to tell you
this too.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I'm so glad that you brought up Nate Burgetzi because
I just saw him on ESPN and you mentioned your
love of football in mine too, and he was on
college football game Day and he's a big Vanderbilt fan.
He's a Tennessee guy, You're a Tennessee gal, and I
think there's something to be said for that connection, that
kind of down home feeling. You tell these stories from
the heart, from the state of Tennessee, and I think
(14:40):
maybe there's a yearning for that.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Am I close to the target?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yes, I think so. I think so in tennis, and
let me tell you that Nashville. Anybody listening, and we'll
get into stand up. Go to Nashville. There is something
going on in Nashville, Tennessee. They Ovaughn moved there, see
bron There's a lot going on, and I think people
are tranked to the salut there. You know, Nashville's booming.
I think there's something too loned and just sit down home,
(15:07):
you know, just stories our.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Si con Leanne you can catch on Netflix along with
her new special Unspeakable Things, just dropped last week.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Let's make that.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Top ten not only right here in Denver, but throughout
the country. And although my time is run out, I'm
very sad about that.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Leanne Morgan.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
One thing I have to have you promise me, and
that is you'll come back on You'll join us, and
you'll let us know when you're coming here to Denver again.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Will you don't, Honey Trump Morgan will want me to
go skiing. I'm not going to ski. I'm just gonna
stare at rich table. But I'll come back through and
I'm going to be at that, I will be always
become to the paramount, my darling.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, okay, well look for her next time around on that.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
But catch her on Netflix now with Unspeakable Things, The
Stand Up Special, Leanne Morgan our special guest on Ryan
Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Leanne, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Thank you Ryn, Thank you Mane Darling.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Now I could have her on every day talking to
me with those words of information, Jess. That Tennessee accent,
which you nailed, by the way, it could be any
southern state. A lot of people would have guessed and
it would have been a good guess. You said, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
How did you do that?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
It was just a lucky guess. I have some friends
that are from Tennessee, though, so her drawl kind of
reminded me of that. She god only reminds me of
like an old time cracker barrel waitress type.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
It just yeah, comforting, she's like comforted. She's like biscuits
and gravy and human form. That's it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
And the way that she calls her husband by his
first and last name, Oh, Chuck Morgan, We'll just love it, Ryan,
I mean, this is so precious, so unspeakable Things.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
The Stand up special. It's interesting.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I want to get your take on this too, Jesse,
along with our listeners five seven seven three nine. I
think we went through a phage. Might call him an era,
and she mentioned some of those names. I'll add a couple.
Amy Schumer, Nicki Glazer and she just had a controversial
stand up I think on SNL and these female comics
that were coming up, Chelsea Handler, Sarah Silverman, and I
(16:57):
thought Sarah was very funny and I enjoyed she had
a Comedy Central show I think.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
For a time.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
But these were single women. They had a little bit
edgy or as she says, Leanne says.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
It's a polite way of putting it. Yeah, they're mostly vulgar,
vulgar and a little nasty.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yeah, exactly, but more than the vulgarity, even which I
think that is played out. I'm not saying we've gone
back to a time where you have to be completely clean,
but I'll say this, when you can do comedy clean, Jesse,
I think other comedians respect that more.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I think you're absolutely right. Yea, what is it the
dry bar comedy that's on YouTube or whatever or not?
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Right?
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yeah, I think that's you know, creativity without being able
to curse is awesome. I'll try to find this audio
because it's so pertinent to this part of the conversation.
It's comedians in cars with coffee. It's Jerry Seinfeld, who,
of course Leanne looks up to as all of us
do who follow comedy. The man's a genius. He's one
of the greatest of all time. He's with Norm MacDonald
(17:58):
rest in peace.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
And they were riding around talking about how Rodney Dangerfield
was so funny but just being himself and talking about
himself self, deprecating humor without getting real dirty. And then
he went to Vegas he started dressing flash here. This
was later in his career, and he started playing the
room blue, so to speak, and they said it made
him less funny. And that's an all time great Rodney Dangerfield.
(18:21):
And these are two all time greats, Jerry Seinfeld nor MacDonald.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I just found that fascinating.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
And you don't want to get pigeonholed into being the
shock comedian. You know, the good ones can do them
both ways. In my opinion, where's Andrew dice Clay these days?
And then he tried to go clean right, and he's
the opposite right.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Just a great conversation with Leanne Morgan. She's such a sweetheart.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Unspeakable things as the Netflix special Find It There and
her sitcom Leanne, She's brought that back as an art form.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Great work, Leanne Morgan. Proud to have her on Ryan
Schuling Live.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
From the e Seas.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Again soluding our veterans on this Veterans Day five, the
eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month
in nineteen eighteen mark the end of the First World
War and to all of you who have served or
family members who have those who have served in them
are thanks to all of you for tuning in today
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and for your service to this country.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I had mentioned before the break, after my absolutely enlightening
conversation with Leanne Morgan about playing the room blue versus
playing the room clean in comedy, and I think clean
comedy has made a comeback in more ways than one.
Nate Burgetsy's an example of this, Jim Gaffigan, LeAnn Morgan,
but even Jerry Seinfeld and Norm MacDonald talked about this
(20:23):
when it came to one of the all time greats,
one of their idols, Rodney Dangerfield. This from Comedians and
cars getting coffee when Norm was still with us.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Are you gonna let us swear on this program?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Cook?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
But I'll beep it.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
And you know how I am with the words, I'm
not going to hear those words. Well, listen, As I
get older, I understand the value of cleaning comedy and
how it's a superior. Now you're gonna say it's not superior,
but it is superior, totally superior. Or you're thinking, oh okay, would.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
You ever considered change years time?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Yes, yes, yes I considered for a while because you know,
I loved Rodney when he'd go on the Tonight Show
and just destroyed, yeah for eight minutes, then going to
couch destroy for another five minutes. Yeah, and then at
the end that was your wig, Johnny, you know, after
like just non stop knockout punches.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
What do you want to do now?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Up. I'll go as far as to say.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
This, I think that Carson ruined is act. But no,
I would agree with you. I had no idea. As
a matter of fact, I was so naive.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I only knew him.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
From Senato appearances. Yeah, And it wasn't until I got
to Los Angeles and I was like, whoa I think
it undermine his charm. Yeah, even the way he was
a dressed so beautifully with the suits. Yeah, and the
character and then I go now, and then I went, well,
what's the character? Now? A guy would leave blonde hair
in Hawaiian shirt? You know what I mean? It didn't
seem to make any sense.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Well.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
One of the beauties though, of live radio is whoever
those guys are that precede me on this program? They
blank with the microphone so much. They twist it, they
turn it, they shake it, they move it, and it's
never me. I don't do this, but they do it.
And it's not great, not great. But you heard there
two guys that are great, Norm MacDonald, Jerry Seinfeld on
(22:20):
Rodney Dangerfield. And it brings up the question, after our
conversation with Leanne Morgan, who is your favorite all time
stand up comedian? And why Jesse, we turn our lonely
eyes and ears to you, how would you answer that question?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Who is it? And why is it?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Oh man, that's really tough, so new school. I really
like Nate Bargetzi. I think he's super, super funny. All
the specials that I've caught of in speaking of being
able to do it clean. He really really makes me laugh.
And then old school and it's total polar opposite of
what Nate does. I like the old old Richard Pryor
(22:58):
slash Eddie Murphy's stuff, like Eddie Murphy raw, Richard Pryor delirious.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I think his name was of the specialise. I like
both of those as well.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I think those are products of their times and they
work because they were original. So Richard Pryor very r rated,
very seventies, very honest humor, though he would talk about
his problems with drugs, setting himself on fire, you know,
there was there were no boundaries when it came to
Richard Pryor, and when you talk to a lot of
comedians who would be considered descendants of his in terms
(23:30):
of chronological orders. Certainly Eddie Murphy would point to Richard
Pryor as one of his all time idols. And if
there's a film you want to see that has like
I guess it'd be two different generations. Red Fox is
a little bit older than Richard Pryor, but they were
kind of around at the same time.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
And Eddie Murphy. Have you seen Harlem Knights, Oh.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Yeah, I've seen har of Them Knights with Dela Reese,
Barcinio Hall and everything.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I've shot my pinky toe. Yeah, that's a great movie.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
I love that movie just for this sake of the
homage to those all time great three comedians that I
mentioned Red Fox, of course, Sandford and Son you remember
him from that, Richard Pryor one of the all time greats.
And Eddie Murphy I agree with Jesse wholeheartedly, one of
the all time greats. Another one of those from that era,
that generation. We're talking Richard Pryor's generation, Bill Cosby and
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we all know how that turned out.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Well. Norm MacDonald had a joke for that too.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Now do you think Cosby is a legacy will be her?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
You do?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Huh?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
I mean there was a comedian, Patton Oswald. He told me,
I think the worst part of the cause of the
thing was a hypocrisy, and I disagree.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
You disagree with that.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
I thought it was the rape. That's my feeling. Most
rapists are hypocrites, you know me many I like Raven
and I know it's not politically correct, but bye goad.
People go, oh, is that being a hypocrite? And that's
the worst part.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Two things there totally unscripted Norm MacDonald. They're just catching
him in the moment he's got this material ready to go.
And the other part is albeit dark humor. It was
funny and he made Jerry Seinfeld laugh. I mean that's
the ultimate test, right there, is when you can make
one of your all time great peers just crack up.
And if you watch this, you can fight it on Netflix.
(25:21):
Look a walking ad for Netflix today. I don't mean
to be they're not paying me. They should be, but
they're not. Well yeah, but it's comedians and cars getting coffee.
It's fantastic. You know, some episodes better than others, but
this is obviously one of the all time best. Is
certainly one of my favorites because Norm is my favorite.
But with Jerry Seinfeld there, if you watch his facial expression,
have you seen this episode?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
If you watched that program at all, Jome.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Have, Norm's timing is incredible and just the look on
Jerry's face. So he's driving, Jerry's driving and he looks
over and he's having this casual convo back and forth
and Norm just happens to bring up Bill Cosins. Oh yeah,
I think his reputation is gonna suffer. Jerry's like, well, yeah,
you know, and then he he goes on this little
tangent about Patton Oswald setting this up, saying, you know,
I think the worst thing about Bill Cosby's hypocrisy. Pause,
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lets it breathe, and he goes, I disagree, Yeah, you disagree. Yeah,
I think it's the raping.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
He discues right to it.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I mean the timing to delivery. Oh my god, there's
nobody like him Norm. You could sit there and watch.
I've gone back and watched a lot of old Norm.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And he thrived.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
He dwelled upon keeping his audience guessing him by audience,
I don't just mean the members of the audience, like
fans like you were me that would attend. But when
he was on with Conan O'Brien, when he was on
with David Letterman, when he's sitting here with Jerry Seinfeld,
it's almost like he takes it as a special challenge.
Oh I'm going to get them, that's what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
And he does, He gets them. I have a little
Don Rickles in him, you know.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Yeah, he's always he's working two three steps ahead, and
then to pay something off.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
It's genius. Such a great analogy right there. It's like chess,
and he is. He's several moves on the chessboard. He
knows where he's going, but you don't. And all you
can hope to do is to follow in his wake.
The great Norm MacDonald gone too soon and never told
anybody really he was sick, not even people in his
inner circle of friends. He didn't want to burden them
with that. He didn't want to be the cancer patient
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that everybody felt sorry for. I get it, I get it.
I think that's how I would want to do it too.
He just wanted them to treat him like, hey, it's
no rm, I got a gambling problem.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And he did.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
He literally did, and you want to joke about that,
and had several shows and incarnations of that along those lines.
My good friend and colleague Mandy Connell, of course, you
can hear her over on KOA noon to three pm.
And she is a quasi I think most of the
time loyal listener to the three o'clock hour here and
she's listening right now. So thank you, Mandy, she says,
Tell my best friendly Anne that I'll be home. I
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interviewed her last year and I still adore her. She's
the best Mandy, isn't she? Yes, she's so fun to interview.
And you know, there are some, I'll be honest, give
you a look behind the curtain here for those that
don't get to do this job like Mandy and I do. Now,
there's some interviews you're do and it's fine, it's fine,
and he kind of you do it. It's your job,
and you had the back and forth and you wrap
it up and thanks for joining us, and that's fine.
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And then there's just some you really look forward to
talking with. And I had never interviewed Lean before. What
a treat, What an absolute treat. That was unspeakable. Things
as the stand up special on Netflix another one that
I've kind of developed that rapport with. And those of
you who are loyal listeners, first of all, thank you,
but you'll also remember recall just the wacky conversations I've
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had with Jay Moore.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
This guy is crazy.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
He's great. Uh, he's sober now he's made a recovery
on that front. And hello Jesse Mary Jeanie Buss. Yeah, yeah,
he's undefeated on and off so to speak. I remember
him when he used to go on the Jim Rome
show back in the day. That's how I discovered him.
That's how long ago. Yeah, yah, I was like twenty
years a guy. Yeah, No, we have so much fun
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when he's on, when he comes to comedy works. He's
just a genuinely good dude.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Also, just speaking of Leanne and Mandy, I'd pay money
to see those two in the same room. Like, how
did anyone get a word in edgewise during that interview?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I got to go look that up. I wouldn't have to,
and I wouldn't want to.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I would just kick back my buddy Jesse Thomas with
a couple of Manhattans.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I just watch them go.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Mandy says she loves Dennis Leary's No Cure for Cancer
still to this day. That includes if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,
here's the thing, you know, could we air it on
this No you couldn't.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Err I'm an a hole, you know.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
No, you can't do that. Maybe in the podcast version
we could. But it's a great song. Yeah, I'm I'm
just gonna say the line. It's the one that you
all know. It stands out, it jumps off the page.
It's not politically correct, but we don't do that here,
so he says, I like to park in handicap spaces
while handicap people make handicapped faces.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I'm an a hole.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
So at least he's honest and to Norm's point, not
being a hypocrite. You own it, you embrace it, you know,
lean into it, you live it. And that's what Dennis
Leary did. And no cure for cancer. So thanks for
bringing that my attention. Mandy's like a co host today
and she didn't even call in.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
We'll take this time out. I'll try to fix my microphone.
It's broken.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I don't know if you can tell, but a good
craftsman never blames his tools. So I'll try to fix
said tool, then come back and not try to act
like a tool.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
But I've already done that.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
I apologize wrapping up this Veterans Day edition of Ryan
Shuling Live.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
After this.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
We could be heroes just for one day, and for
those who have served our country, they certainly deserve more
than just one day. Often asked that question. You know
there are certain groups they get a whole month. Our
veterans get a day, Memorial days a day. I guess
you can call a weekend. But if there's any group
of Americans to deserve a month to honor and celebrate them.
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It is our veterans, and we salute you on this
Veteran's Day back. You're wrapping things up on Ryan Schooling Live.
Did this text we go at five seven seven three
nine Stephen Littleton, a retired law enforcement officer Ryan, on
this day, I want to honor my dad, a World
War Two US Navy pilot, Steve. We honor your father
as well and thank him for his service. And that
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arguably the most important war that we have won over
the last well since the American Civil War, certainly, and
it freed the world. Also talking about heroes of comedy
and having a good time with Leanne Morgan, who's got
a Netflix special Unspeakable Things.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Be sure to check that out.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Tell her I sent you. And here's one that's on topic,
on point. And I don't know if the texter or
even realizes this.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Maybe he or she does. Henry Cho just kills me.
Henry was on with me not that long.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I love him, and he makes fun of the fact
that he's this Asian guy and you look at him
and he's got a Knoxville, Tennessee accent, and that sensibility
and sense of humor. It's family friendly. So again Tennessee
just churning him out. There's something about nash Vegas going on.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Kid rocks there.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I think there's a lot of in the entertainment industry,
country music obvis that relocated there, but comedy too. According
to Leanne BERGETSI another one Leanne herself, Henry Cho, So.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Check him out down there, grand old Opry style.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Ryan Dennis Leary, No Cure for Cancer came out when
I was in high school.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
It was the best.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I think you're the same age as I am because
I remember that being high school for me too. Ryan
Nicky Glazer is one of the nastiest comedians I've heard,
and at that point it's not as funny see that.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
It's a fine line. You got to ride the lightning.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
It can be funny, I think for the right stand
up comedian, but others who venture into that, like Rodney
Dangerfield we talked about it just didn't fit him. It
didn't work for him. It undermined his charm. That's what
Jerry said. I mean, I'm with you on this though, Jesse.
There are some comedians that they dwell in that realm
and they do just fine. Yeah, one hundred percent with
Nicky though it's played out. Nicky Glazer to me is
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it's jumped the shark so speak. She's just too nasty. Yeah,
it might be funnier for her to reel it in
now it kind of go the other way. Maybe that's possible.
We'll see if she's nimble enough to pull off that
feet there, right, said Fred referred to himself as too sexy.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
That is true, Texter. I was asking the question because
it just seemed off putting.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Among many things that the former First Lady has said
in way too many interviews, you know, for not loving
the spotlight so much.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
She sure does love the spotlight so much.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Oh it's not all glamour when you got your own
hair team in the White House. Oh crimea river like
she's complaining about these things with fame. Then don't be famous.
Now go go in some go to Lake Endecai. My
grandfather's cabins. Live a life of obscurity, off the grid
and off the map. Nobody will know where you are.
But she couldn't live that way, could she? Because a
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wooden't feed her ego.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
She is just awful. She's just awful. And it's not
mas Tester.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Ryan regarding humble Obama proclaiming beauty. There's another host on
KHW that agrees with it, thinks she's the cat's mew.
Actually looks like something the cat coughed up and a
hundred times nast year.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
That's not nice. And I'm not even talking about that.
Set that aside.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
It's how she complains about the privileged life she lives
among the bourgeoisie, and she is the bougiest of the bourgeoisie.
The first Lady of the United States has a place,
Martha's vineyard.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Spare me the complaining, That's all I'm asking
Ladies and gentlemen of my mother.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I don't know if y'all got little girls that mine
would ask me deep, deep questions all the time, for example,
questions about the solar system. And finally one day I said, baby,
I didn't pay attention in school. Is there anything you'd
like to know about young and the rest us?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
This is my take on snowskin.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I had to get all those little children dressed with
all those layers, and then I'd had to put ski
boots on little children and they go, no, Mommy, no,
don't put those skey boats on me.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
When we're skinned.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
This baby child, she starts taking off of her clothes off.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I go, what are you doing? And she said, my
butthole edges.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I remember praying to the Lord and saying, what did
I do that was so bad?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
That this is my vacation now.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't know what it is about my husband and
tail room, but he gets in a hotel room, gets
a glazed lookover's eyes, and I feel like I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Doing this and I knew what that land I'm gonna
have to do. Unspeakable things.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Now there it is.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It's the name of her new special on Netflix, Unspeakable Things.
She just wrapped up her just getting started tour, so
of course her first stop right here in Denver with
yours truly, Ryan Schuling. On Ryan Schuling Live, Leanne Morgan
joins us. Leanne, thank you so much for your time,
you angel.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Thank you for having me, my darling.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
That is true now in our conversation just before we
went to air here, you're talking about coming to Denver
Paramount Theater in this Netflix preview skiing in the mountains,
and I know that in this special you mentioned using CBDs,
So it all adds up to when are you coming.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Back to Denver?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Because y'all got all that dough pound there.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
That's uh huh, I've heard.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Okay, honey, I'll be back after I'm going to shoot
this television series January through April, and then I'll go
back on tour. And Denver's always one of the first jobs.
And I love it, and yes, Chuck Morgan loves skin
and I love it. I love I don't I don't
want to do it anymore. I feel like I'm gonna
hurt something. But I like to go up there and
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stare at rich people on that mountain and everybody looks
like bo Derek and who are those people? It's just fascinating, honey. Well,
Spark Creek, Colorado is where we would take our little
children and I and stunning.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Well, as legend has it too, that's where President Trump
went for a marriage number one to marriage number two
is on the slopes here in Colorado where Divna ran
into Marlow Maples.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Then well we know what happened from there.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh my lord? And what Avona or Avonka? Okay, that
first one wasn't she had a good scare because she
was from was it she scanned the nineteen or something?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, exactly from her origins in Czechoslovakia or whatnot?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes, oh yeah, oh yeah, Oh lord, that's a tid.
Then I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, maybe she can add that to her third stand
up special.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Her first one, I'm every Woman, was in the top
ten on Netflix, and no doubt this one will be too.
It just came out a week ago and you can
find it there.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So take us through what.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Might be the biggest differences in how you have approached
your stand up routine between the last special this one,
What you took on too early in how do you
put that all together?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Oh, my darling, you know, it's really I'd like to
give you some kind of Jerry Sunfield answer because he's brilliant.
But I'm just up there talking out of my hand.
You know, I think about stories that I want a tale,
and I put it in my phone in notes. I
used to put it on the back of my check book,
(04:05):
and it would make Chuck Morgan some mad. I'd have
all these pieces of paper in my check floating in
my purse that wouldn't be balanced, and it would be
that that I wanted to do. And now I'm trying
to be organized on my phone and I and I'm
just telling stories. You know that God loved these precious
people that are my fans. They feel like they can
(04:26):
relate to because it's all true, you know, just true
stories me calking.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
And one of those you've said that name twice down.
I believe that you're referring to your husband and you
call him Chuck Morgan. You could call him by his
first and last name.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I noticed, yes, and I and people have asked me
about that. I either call Chuck Morgan that because my
mama is always called my daddy Jimmy Flincher and I
so I've just always called him Chuck Morgan, and then
sometimes I call him Chuck Keena if I'm feeling frisky,
(05:01):
Lea Morgan Chuck because he is a big stolic. He
does not think he uses handwarm today. And I think
it's funny that I call him Chokina because he does
not look like a chuckin Now.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
That's got to be a good combination, though, because you
describe him in that hotel room scene. As you mentioned,
you're telling stories. These are things that have actually happened
in your life.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So it's a good fit, right, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
He gives me a lot of material, he really does.
And then people say to take care about you talking
about him. I go, no, he wants me to talk
about him, and he'll say and it's in the spatial,
He'll say, tell him then, so he wants me.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
To talk about him.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Honey, I'm building him a Hollywood career.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I think you really are.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Now, this is very different though, from the premise of
your sitcom. Leon Morgan our guest, and she goes from
Chuck Morgan her husband, to Chuck Laurie, and this is
who she's collaborated with. She likes Chucks and on that
Seinfeld note, She's assembled quite the troop to put together
this sitcom entitled appropriately Leanne.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Here's a sample of that on.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Your pageant days.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Remember the four seas who confidence and posed and cut.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Let's him up, barl. I never thought I'd be divorced.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
This time in my line.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Now I'm danking between Mormon replacement and column oscopy.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You great, thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I used my Cole's cash.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I'm not somebody who goes after married man.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
How lucky man, you nailed it on your first trunk
Old Hawksville.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Kristin Johnston, you'll remember her from Third Rock and the Sun,
plays Leanne's younger sister in this sitcom entitled Leanne. And
also Ryan Styles you might remember him from Whose line
is it any way? And the Drew Carey Show. You
put together quite the cast here Leon you and Chuck Laurie.
How did that all come together?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh, my darling, Well, they said, Chuck low I was
on in in on some of the casting, but he said,
and Christian Johnston has to play your sister. Y'all look alike.
I just think y'all are going to fall in love
with each other. And we and they introduced us at
a lunch and and we were best friends ever since,
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and I truly love her and I think it shows
on the on the screen. And so that could not
have been any better. And then Royan Styles, I mean,
is he not brilliant? His character, you know, has cheated
on my character after thirty four years and gets somebody
else pregnant. And we wanted this character to be redeemable,
(07:33):
but and likable and not beat up on him, but him,
you know, be regretful of.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
What he did.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And I think Royan Styles is perfect.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Was he not brilliant in it?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Fantastic?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
And he's just got those chops as you call him
in the business, with that ability to kind of read
and react. I mean a sitcom, everything's coming at you
like one hundred miles an hour, and leanne quite frankly,
this sitcom has been renewed for a second season.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
We're kind of out of the age of sitcoms.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
We touched on Seinfeld a little bit, kind of the
heyday there in the eighties and the nineties. But you've
been able to reinvent it, make it fun again. What
was this formula to doing? Then?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Why do you think it's been so successful?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh, my darling, is that not crazy. Okay. Netflix said
to me with Chuck Laurie, I mean, they'll do anybody
wants to work with Chuck Lorrie first of all, so
I was lucky that way. And then Netflix shit looked
at us. I wanted to do a single cam because
and I grew up watching you know, w k r PE,
Cincinnati Cheers, Fraser Seinfeld, all these shows that I've always
(08:32):
long but I began't I really enjoying partial recreation and
some single camp. So that's what I wanted to do.
And then Netflix said to uns Liam, we think you
can bring back the multicam sitcom and I was like, no,
put that burden on me. And then Hunting with Chuck Lory,
who just is a pro and like the master of that.
(08:54):
I don't know, it just all came together and I'm
just so thankful that it's been so successful. Say to
me all the time, I just feel there's comfort in it,
like I've missed this this formaan and I think people
really miss the multicam sitcom And it was just the
right time.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
And Chuck Laurie as our guest, Leanne Morgan mentions Behind
the Big Bang Theory two and a half Men, two
of the more successful sitcoms over these last ten to
twenty years, and you can watch Leanne on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I got to ask, though, about what a departure this
must be for you.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
The premise of the sitcom being your husband of thirty
three years cheats on you get somebody else pregnant. You
know you're having to go back into the dating world,
aren't you glad you're not this character, Leanna, and you
get to go home to Chuck Morgan.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yes, And let me tell you, Oh those scenes when
I'm with Tim Dailey agent Andrew and I have to
like share a hotel room and a bathroom. Honey, if
I had to get out in day and put on
a babe and say in front of somebody else besides
Chuck morning, and have to go use the bathroom and
you know what I'm saying, I think it would kill me.
(10:03):
I mean, I just don't know how people do it.
And you will not believe the women that have said
to me, Leane, You've given me hope that I can
date again. I'm thinking, I don't know, God love them,
because it would. I don't know how in the world
people do it. It would And you know when Chuck
Laurie asked me. He said, let's I want this to
be the premise. I kind of bucked on it and thought,
but I'm not divorced, and I know I don't want
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it based on my real family, but it's based on
my comedy. And then I thought it was brilliant what
he did because everybody knows everybody has been through like
having to get over something and pull your bitch, stretch
up and go again. Like there's a universal theme in
having to start over, and that's what I think people
have connected to in it.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Ben Morgan our guest as you heard to start the segment,
that was her daughter introducing her on stage for the
Netflix special. Family So near and dear to your heart
in your comedy, Leanne, I think that that's what shines
through along with Chuck Morgan, your husband, your daughters who
you mentioned on the ski trips, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
What is that family dynamic?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Like, you're so busy, You're on the road doing the tour,
you're doing the Netflix special, you're doing the Netflix sitcom.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
How do you balance that with work in life?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well, my baby child, the one that had an itchy
butthole in Colorado, she is my professional makeup art and
she went to go from Land and so she's with
me all the time. Thank goodness, I've got her, she says.
Now she's my caregiver, and I don't and she's right.
But you know that we all are enjoying it. Everybody
(11:37):
they watched me do stand up for twenty five years.
But really and truly, I was not very successful until
my early fifties. So I got to raise these children
that and I look at it, the timing of this
could not have been more perfect, because I did get
to raise my own children, and so I do have
all these stories from being normal, you know in Knoxville, Tennessee,
(11:58):
that's what people relate to Bolt. And then all this
to happen to us in this time in my life.
I mean, it's crazy and every day, I mean, we
just cannot malime it. It's so sweet and wonderful and
how people love that everything that's going on. I mean,
it could not have happened at a better time. And
these grand babies seen me on Netflix and there's like
(12:19):
there's Grandmama, and I just keep walking.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It takes me to my final question, Leanne, and that,
as you mentioned, you got to live the life as
a mother and a wife, and that your career very
unusual in this craft of stand up comedy, of doing
a sitcom. It kind of happened later in life for you.
But here you are and you're going on tour, you're
doing all these things. You're enjoying success. You've made your
own success. But there's been talk about how it might
(12:45):
be a lot more difficult in the world of comedy
for a woman. We've seen the names that have broken through,
like Roseanne kind of doing that same thing, that style
of life type comedy. But have you noticed that in
this business the way that you've experienced at firsthand?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Has it? Is it harder for a woman to make it?
And if not, why not for you?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, I think early on when I was auditioning for
Aspen and Comedy Festival and just for lass to see,
Comedy Central was huge and they just did not want
a mama with three little children and all that. It
was more edgy, and it was people like Sarah Silverman
and you know, Chelsea Handler and all that, and they
(13:28):
were they were rising up, but I just it just
was not the right I mean, I was not what
they were looking for. Now, I was out in clubs
and I was working there were more male comedians. I
know that people think, oh, female comedians are not funny.
We get that all the time, but I don't know,
there's just something at this point. I think after COVID
(13:52):
that people want authenticity and like you look at I know,
Nate's a man, but Nate Burgancy's like that's who he
really is. I'm I think something has happened where it's
just a perfect time for this for me and how
what kind of comedy I do? And I'm sure there
are more people coming up, but I do I think
(14:12):
people just want authenticity and I'm probably need to answer
your question like my angel.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Oh you sure did, and I got to tell you
this too.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I'm so glad that you brought up Nate Burgetzi because
I just saw him on ESPN and you mentioned your
love of football in mine too, and he was on
college football game Day and he's a big Vanderbilt fan.
He's a Tennessee guy, You're a Tennessee gal, and I
think there's something to be said for that connection, that
kind of down home feeling. You tell these stories from
the heart, from the state of Tennessee, and I think
(14:40):
maybe there's a yearning for that.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Am I close to the target?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yes, I think so. I think so in tennis, and
let me tell you that Nashville. Anybody listening, and we'll
get into stand up. Go to Nashville. There is something
going on in Nashville, Tennessee. They Ovaughn moved there, see
bron There's a lot going on, and I think people
are tranked to the salut there. You know, Nashville's booming.
I think there's something too loned and just sit down home,
(15:07):
you know, just stories our.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Si con Leanne you can catch on Netflix along with
her new special Unspeakable Things, just dropped last week.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Let's make that.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Top ten not only right here in Denver, but throughout
the country. And although my time is run out, I'm
very sad about that.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Leanne Morgan.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
One thing I have to have you promise me, and
that is you'll come back on You'll join us, and
you'll let us know when you're coming here to Denver again.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Will you don't, Honey Trump Morgan will want me to
go skiing. I'm not going to ski. I'm just gonna
stare at rich table. But I'll come back through and
I'm going to be at that, I will be always
become to the paramount, my darling.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, okay, well look for her next time around on that.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
But catch her on Netflix now with Unspeakable Things, The
Stand Up Special, Leanne Morgan our special guest on Ryan
Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Leanne, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Thank you Ryn, Thank you Mane Darling.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Now I could have her on every day talking to
me with those words of information, Jess. That Tennessee accent,
which you nailed, by the way, it could be any
southern state. A lot of people would have guessed and
it would have been a good guess. You said, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
How did you do that?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
It was just a lucky guess. I have some friends
that are from Tennessee, though, so her drawl kind of
reminded me of that. She god only reminds me of
like an old time cracker barrel waitress type.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
It just yeah, comforting, she's like comforted. She's like biscuits
and gravy and human form. That's it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
And the way that she calls her husband by his
first and last name, Oh, Chuck Morgan, We'll just love it, Ryan,
I mean, this is so precious, so unspeakable Things.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
The Stand up special. It's interesting.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I want to get your take on this too, Jesse,
along with our listeners five seven seven three nine. I
think we went through a phage. Might call him an era,
and she mentioned some of those names. I'll add a couple.
Amy Schumer, Nicki Glazer and she just had a controversial
stand up I think on SNL and these female comics
that were coming up, Chelsea Handler, Sarah Silverman, and I
(16:57):
thought Sarah was very funny and I enjoyed she had
a Comedy Central show I think.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
For a time.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
But these were single women. They had a little bit
edgy or as she says, Leanne says.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
It's a polite way of putting it. Yeah, they're mostly vulgar,
vulgar and a little nasty.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yeah, exactly, but more than the vulgarity, even which I
think that is played out. I'm not saying we've gone
back to a time where you have to be completely clean,
but I'll say this, when you can do comedy clean, Jesse,
I think other comedians respect that more.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I think you're absolutely right. Yea, what is it the
dry bar comedy that's on YouTube or whatever or not?
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Right?
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yeah, I think that's you know, creativity without being able
to curse is awesome. I'll try to find this audio
because it's so pertinent to this part of the conversation.
It's comedians in cars with coffee. It's Jerry Seinfeld, who,
of course Leanne looks up to as all of us
do who follow comedy. The man's a genius. He's one
of the greatest of all time. He's with Norm MacDonald
(17:58):
rest in peace.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
And they were riding around talking about how Rodney Dangerfield
was so funny but just being himself and talking about
himself self, deprecating humor without getting real dirty. And then
he went to Vegas he started dressing flash here. This
was later in his career, and he started playing the
room blue, so to speak, and they said it made
him less funny. And that's an all time great Rodney Dangerfield.
(18:21):
And these are two all time greats, Jerry Seinfeld nor MacDonald.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I just found that fascinating.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
And you don't want to get pigeonholed into being the
shock comedian. You know, the good ones can do them
both ways. In my opinion, where's Andrew dice Clay these days?
And then he tried to go clean right, and he's
the opposite right.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Just a great conversation with Leanne Morgan. She's such a sweetheart.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Unspeakable things as the Netflix special Find It There and
her sitcom Leanne, She's brought that back as an art form.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Great work, Leanne Morgan. Proud to have her on Ryan
Schuling Live.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
From the e Seas.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Again soluding our veterans on this Veterans Day five, the
eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month
in nineteen eighteen mark the end of the First World
War and to all of you who have served or
family members who have those who have served in them
are thanks to all of you for tuning in today
(19:59):
and for your service to this country.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I had mentioned before the break, after my absolutely enlightening
conversation with Leanne Morgan about playing the room blue versus
playing the room clean in comedy, and I think clean
comedy has made a comeback in more ways than one.
Nate Burgetsy's an example of this, Jim Gaffigan, LeAnn Morgan,
but even Jerry Seinfeld and Norm MacDonald talked about this
(20:23):
when it came to one of the all time greats,
one of their idols, Rodney Dangerfield. This from Comedians and
cars getting coffee when Norm was still with us.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Are you gonna let us swear on this program?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Cook?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
But I'll beep it.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
And you know how I am with the words, I'm
not going to hear those words. Well, listen, As I
get older, I understand the value of cleaning comedy and
how it's a superior. Now you're gonna say it's not superior,
but it is superior, totally superior. Or you're thinking, oh okay, would.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
You ever considered change years time?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Yes, yes, yes I considered for a while because you know,
I loved Rodney when he'd go on the Tonight Show
and just destroyed, yeah for eight minutes, then going to
couch destroy for another five minutes. Yeah, and then at
the end that was your wig, Johnny, you know, after
like just non stop knockout punches.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
What do you want to do now?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Up. I'll go as far as to say.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
This, I think that Carson ruined is act. But no,
I would agree with you. I had no idea. As
a matter of fact, I was so naive.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I only knew him.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
From Senato appearances. Yeah, And it wasn't until I got
to Los Angeles and I was like, whoa I think
it undermine his charm. Yeah, even the way he was
a dressed so beautifully with the suits. Yeah, and the
character and then I go now, and then I went, well,
what's the character? Now? A guy would leave blonde hair
in Hawaiian shirt? You know what I mean? It didn't
seem to make any sense.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Well.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
One of the beauties though, of live radio is whoever
those guys are that precede me on this program? They
blank with the microphone so much. They twist it, they
turn it, they shake it, they move it, and it's
never me. I don't do this, but they do it.
And it's not great, not great. But you heard there
two guys that are great, Norm MacDonald, Jerry Seinfeld on
(22:20):
Rodney Dangerfield. And it brings up the question, after our
conversation with Leanne Morgan, who is your favorite all time
stand up comedian? And why Jesse, we turn our lonely
eyes and ears to you, how would you answer that question?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Who is it? And why is it?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Oh man, that's really tough, so new school. I really
like Nate Bargetzi. I think he's super, super funny. All
the specials that I've caught of in speaking of being
able to do it clean. He really really makes me laugh.
And then old school and it's total polar opposite of
what Nate does. I like the old old Richard Pryor
(22:58):
slash Eddie Murphy's stuff, like Eddie Murphy raw, Richard Pryor delirious.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I think his name was of the specialise. I like
both of those as well.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I think those are products of their times and they
work because they were original. So Richard Pryor very r rated,
very seventies, very honest humor, though he would talk about
his problems with drugs, setting himself on fire, you know,
there was there were no boundaries when it came to
Richard Pryor, and when you talk to a lot of
comedians who would be considered descendants of his in terms
(23:30):
of chronological orders. Certainly Eddie Murphy would point to Richard
Pryor as one of his all time idols. And if
there's a film you want to see that has like
I guess it'd be two different generations. Red Fox is
a little bit older than Richard Pryor, but they were
kind of around at the same time.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
And Eddie Murphy. Have you seen Harlem Knights, Oh.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Yeah, I've seen har of Them Knights with Dela Reese,
Barcinio Hall and everything.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I've shot my pinky toe. Yeah, that's a great movie.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
I love that movie just for this sake of the
homage to those all time great three comedians that I
mentioned Red Fox, of course, Sandford and Son you remember
him from that, Richard Pryor one of the all time greats.
And Eddie Murphy I agree with Jesse wholeheartedly, one of
the all time greats. Another one of those from that era,
that generation. We're talking Richard Pryor's generation, Bill Cosby and
(24:22):
we all know how that turned out.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Well. Norm MacDonald had a joke for that too.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Now do you think Cosby is a legacy will be her?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
You do?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Huh?
Speaker 6 (24:32):
I mean there was a comedian, Patton Oswald. He told me,
I think the worst part of the cause of the
thing was a hypocrisy, and I disagree.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
You disagree with that.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
I thought it was the rape. That's my feeling. Most
rapists are hypocrites, you know me many I like Raven
and I know it's not politically correct, but bye goad.
People go, oh, is that being a hypocrite? And that's
the worst part.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Two things there totally unscripted Norm MacDonald. They're just catching
him in the moment he's got this material ready to go.
And the other part is albeit dark humor. It was
funny and he made Jerry Seinfeld laugh. I mean that's
the ultimate test, right there, is when you can make
one of your all time great peers just crack up.
And if you watch this, you can fight it on Netflix.
(25:21):
Look a walking ad for Netflix today. I don't mean
to be they're not paying me. They should be, but
they're not. Well yeah, but it's comedians and cars getting coffee.
It's fantastic. You know, some episodes better than others, but
this is obviously one of the all time best. Is
certainly one of my favorites because Norm is my favorite.
But with Jerry Seinfeld there, if you watch his facial expression,
have you seen this episode?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
If you watched that program at all, Jome.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Have, Norm's timing is incredible and just the look on
Jerry's face. So he's driving, Jerry's driving and he looks
over and he's having this casual convo back and forth
and Norm just happens to bring up Bill Cosins. Oh yeah,
I think his reputation is gonna suffer. Jerry's like, well, yeah,
you know, and then he he goes on this little
tangent about Patton Oswald setting this up, saying, you know,
I think the worst thing about Bill Cosby's hypocrisy. Pause,
(26:07):
lets it breathe, and he goes, I disagree, Yeah, you disagree. Yeah,
I think it's the raping.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
He discues right to it.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I mean the timing to delivery. Oh my god, there's
nobody like him Norm. You could sit there and watch.
I've gone back and watched a lot of old Norm.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And he thrived.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
He dwelled upon keeping his audience guessing him by audience,
I don't just mean the members of the audience, like
fans like you were me that would attend. But when
he was on with Conan O'Brien, when he was on
with David Letterman, when he's sitting here with Jerry Seinfeld,
it's almost like he takes it as a special challenge.
Oh I'm going to get them, that's what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
And he does, He gets them. I have a little
Don Rickles in him, you know.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Yeah, he's always he's working two three steps ahead, and
then to pay something off.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
It's genius. Such a great analogy right there. It's like chess,
and he is. He's several moves on the chessboard. He
knows where he's going, but you don't. And all you
can hope to do is to follow in his wake.
The great Norm MacDonald gone too soon and never told
anybody really he was sick, not even people in his
inner circle of friends. He didn't want to burden them
with that. He didn't want to be the cancer patient
(27:17):
that everybody felt sorry for. I get it, I get it.
I think that's how I would want to do it too.
He just wanted them to treat him like, hey, it's
no rm, I got a gambling problem.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And he did.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
He literally did, and you want to joke about that,
and had several shows and incarnations of that along those lines.
My good friend and colleague Mandy Connell, of course, you
can hear her over on KOA noon to three pm.
And she is a quasi I think most of the
time loyal listener to the three o'clock hour here and
she's listening right now. So thank you, Mandy, she says,
Tell my best friendly Anne that I'll be home. I
(27:48):
interviewed her last year and I still adore her. She's
the best Mandy, isn't she? Yes, she's so fun to interview.
And you know, there are some, I'll be honest, give
you a look behind the curtain here for those that
don't get to do this job like Mandy and I do. Now,
there's some interviews you're do and it's fine, it's fine,
and he kind of you do it. It's your job,
and you had the back and forth and you wrap
it up and thanks for joining us, and that's fine.
(28:08):
And then there's just some you really look forward to
talking with. And I had never interviewed Lean before. What
a treat, What an absolute treat. That was unspeakable. Things
as the stand up special on Netflix another one that
I've kind of developed that rapport with. And those of
you who are loyal listeners, first of all, thank you,
but you'll also remember recall just the wacky conversations I've
(28:29):
had with Jay Moore.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
This guy is crazy.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
He's great. Uh, he's sober now he's made a recovery
on that front. And hello Jesse Mary Jeanie Buss. Yeah, yeah,
he's undefeated on and off so to speak. I remember
him when he used to go on the Jim Rome
show back in the day. That's how I discovered him.
That's how long ago. Yeah, yah, I was like twenty
years a guy. Yeah, No, we have so much fun
(28:53):
when he's on, when he comes to comedy works. He's
just a genuinely good dude.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Also, just speaking of Leanne and Mandy, I'd pay money
to see those two in the same room. Like, how
did anyone get a word in edgewise during that interview?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I got to go look that up. I wouldn't have to,
and I wouldn't want to.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I would just kick back my buddy Jesse Thomas with
a couple of Manhattans.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I just watch them go.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Mandy says she loves Dennis Leary's No Cure for Cancer
still to this day. That includes if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,
here's the thing, you know, could we air it on
this No you couldn't.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Err I'm an a hole, you know.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
No, you can't do that. Maybe in the podcast version
we could. But it's a great song. Yeah, I'm I'm
just gonna say the line. It's the one that you
all know. It stands out, it jumps off the page.
It's not politically correct, but we don't do that here,
so he says, I like to park in handicap spaces
while handicap people make handicapped faces.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I'm an a hole.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
So at least he's honest and to Norm's point, not
being a hypocrite. You own it, you embrace it, you know,
lean into it, you live it. And that's what Dennis
Leary did. And no cure for cancer. So thanks for
bringing that my attention. Mandy's like a co host today
and she didn't even call in.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
We'll take this time out. I'll try to fix my microphone.
It's broken.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I don't know if you can tell, but a good
craftsman never blames his tools. So I'll try to fix
said tool, then come back and not try to act
like a tool.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
But I've already done that.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
I apologize wrapping up this Veterans Day edition of Ryan
Shuling Live.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
After this.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
We could be heroes just for one day, and for
those who have served our country, they certainly deserve more
than just one day. Often asked that question. You know
there are certain groups they get a whole month. Our
veterans get a day, Memorial days a day. I guess
you can call a weekend. But if there's any group
of Americans to deserve a month to honor and celebrate them.
(30:47):
It is our veterans, and we salute you on this
Veteran's Day back. You're wrapping things up on Ryan Schooling Live.
Did this text we go at five seven seven three
nine Stephen Littleton, a retired law enforcement officer Ryan, on
this day, I want to honor my dad, a World
War Two US Navy pilot, Steve. We honor your father
as well and thank him for his service. And that
(31:08):
arguably the most important war that we have won over
the last well since the American Civil War, certainly, and
it freed the world. Also talking about heroes of comedy
and having a good time with Leanne Morgan, who's got
a Netflix special Unspeakable Things.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Be sure to check that out.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Tell her I sent you. And here's one that's on topic,
on point. And I don't know if the texter or
even realizes this.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Maybe he or she does. Henry Cho just kills me.
Henry was on with me not that long.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I love him, and he makes fun of the fact
that he's this Asian guy and you look at him
and he's got a Knoxville, Tennessee accent, and that sensibility
and sense of humor. It's family friendly. So again Tennessee
just churning him out. There's something about nash Vegas going on.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Kid rocks there.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I think there's a lot of in the entertainment industry,
country music obvis that relocated there, but comedy too. According
to Leanne BERGETSI another one Leanne herself, Henry Cho, So.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Check him out down there, grand old Opry style.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Ryan Dennis Leary, No Cure for Cancer came out when
I was in high school.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
It was the best.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
I think you're the same age as I am because
I remember that being high school for me too. Ryan
Nicky Glazer is one of the nastiest comedians I've heard,
and at that point it's not as funny see that.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
It's a fine line. You got to ride the lightning.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
It can be funny, I think for the right stand
up comedian, but others who venture into that, like Rodney
Dangerfield we talked about it just didn't fit him. It
didn't work for him. It undermined his charm. That's what
Jerry said. I mean, I'm with you on this though, Jesse.
There are some comedians that they dwell in that realm
and they do just fine. Yeah, one hundred percent with
Nicky though it's played out. Nicky Glazer to me is
(32:51):
it's jumped the shark so speak. She's just too nasty. Yeah,
it might be funnier for her to reel it in
now it kind of go the other way. Maybe that's possible.
We'll see if she's nimble enough to pull off that
feet there, right, said Fred referred to himself as too sexy.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
That is true, Texter. I was asking the question because
it just seemed off putting.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Among many things that the former First Lady has said
in way too many interviews, you know, for not loving
the spotlight so much.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
She sure does love the spotlight so much.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Oh it's not all glamour when you got your own
hair team in the White House. Oh crimea river like
she's complaining about these things with fame. Then don't be famous.
Now go go in some go to Lake Endecai. My
grandfather's cabins. Live a life of obscurity, off the grid
and off the map. Nobody will know where you are.
But she couldn't live that way, could she? Because a
(33:46):
wooden't feed her ego.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
She is just awful. She's just awful. And it's not
mas Tester.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Ryan regarding humble Obama proclaiming beauty. There's another host on
KHW that agrees with it, thinks she's the cat's mew.
Actually looks like something the cat coughed up and a
hundred times nast year.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
That's not nice. And I'm not even talking about that.
Set that aside.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
It's how she complains about the privileged life she lives
among the bourgeoisie, and she is the bougiest of the bourgeoisie.
The first Lady of the United States has a place,
Martha's vineyard.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Spare me the complaining, That's all I'm asking
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.