May 9, 2025 • 36 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of Ryan Schuiling Live, Bill Walton, an all-too-rare pro-Trump film producer, joins Ryan, Deborah, and Christian to answer the following question: Is President Trump's film industry tariff 'cure' worse than the disease?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And yes we are here. We are down one co
host and panelists. However, as Deborah Floor is welcoming her
son back from college, I think.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Is what's going on in her life.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And Christian Toto, he is riding shotgun right here, and
he is armed with said shotga, literally riding shotgun.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
With wit and wisdom.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hollywoodintoto dot com is where you can find him. That's
his central hub and website. And just to start things off,
Christian the very latest there. My fiancee Kelsey is a
big fan of your site, sort of the few blogs
and how it's constructed. She says that she it's their
go to every time that she goes online. So tell
the people what they can find.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah, I just posted a story about a new Donald
Trump biopic which is in the works.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Now.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
We just saw The Apprentice last year, which wasn't an
expansive look at Donald Trump. It was more like in
the eighties how he became a player in a sense,
and of course under the alleged tutelage of Roy Kohne,
the evil, wicked one. Now they're looking at something that's
more comprehensive, that kind of maybe has a bigger scope
to it and According to Deadline, this particular project has
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a one hundred million dollar budget. Now that's crazy because
The Apprentice made four million stateside. There's clearly not a
huge appetite. I mean, listen, Donald Trump is everywhere the president.
We can't escape him from the headlines. Love him or
hate him, that's just who he is right now. And
the fact that they already made a film that touched
on him that bombed, and now they're making a second film,
(01:31):
which allegedly would be more kind to him. But still
that budget is not going to get you, and it's
not going to get your profitability. It's just not a
movie like that is just not going to make enough
money where you have a one hundred million dollar budget.
I just don't understand, Hollywood. I don't understand the accounting.
You know, there's kind of a common phrase, Hollywood accounting.
(01:51):
It's sort of little nefarious, a little bit mysterious, a
little bit maybe not on the up and up. But
this is just ridiculous. And I think, really the story
is that if you want to do a Trump biopic,
wait five, ten, maybe even fifteen years, wait till he's
out of office.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Emotions are cooler. We can look at what he's.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Done, the full scope of his work, and then tell
the story, because it's an amazing story.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I just don't think that people can help themselves, especially
those who are opposed to him. Although you and I
believe watched The Imprentice to get her, we did do
with Sebastian stan Right.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Good performance.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I liked it a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I thought he was very committed to the role and
portrayed him in a very accurate way. Now, the storyline,
maybe you can say that left a lot to be desired,
but you could see the animosity, yes, sehind it and
that's what you and I picked up on.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
So leave it to Christian again.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You can find more of that analysis at Hollywood intoto
dot com. To provide the perfect segue to a guess
that we're very happy to have to discuss the true
social post from Donald Trump that was a bombshell for Hollywood.
On Sunday, he wrote the following quote, movie industry in
America is dying all cap a very fast death. A
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lot of words that are capitalized here that shouldn't be
or don't need to be. He loves doing that in
the truth social posts too, Trump claiming quote other countries
are offering all sorts of incentives to draw our filmmakers
and studios away from the United States. Hollywood and many
other areas within the USA are being devastated, the President
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saying that the situation was quote a concerted effort by
other nations and therefore a national security threat. He continued,
it is in addition to everything else, messaging and propaganda.
But is this going to work? Bill Walton, not the
legendary basketball player who we lost over the last year,
(03:44):
but the Bill Walton. He's the non woke CEO. He's
the host of The Bill Walton Show. Formerly served on
the action and landing teams for President Trump's twenty sixteen
presidential transition team founded Rush River Entertainment, which was a
producer of Max Rose starring Jerry Lewis, released in August
twenty sixteen. Early cut of that screen That Caine's Film Festival.
(04:05):
In twenty thirteen, a second film, The Ticket, starring Dan Stevens,
was selected as one of only ten films for Tribeca
Film Festivals twenty sixteen US narrative competition. He knows a
thing or two about the movie making industry, joins us.
Now on the right side of Hollywood with yours truly,
Ryan Schuling and Christian Toto.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Bill, thank you for your time.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Oh great to be on. I've admired what you guys
do you Hollywood.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
On the right, we need that perspective, Well.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
We need your perspective from that orientation politically.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Bill, We're glad to have it here on this show today.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But your initial reaction to President Trump kind of wading
into those waters with the tariffs on Hollywood films that
might be made overseas out of the country, trying to
reinvest in American filmmaking, What are the pluses and minuses
of that as you see it.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Well, you know, for every problem, Donald Trump says that
you can all that with tariffs.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
And I guess this all.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Came out of a meeting ahead with John Voyd is
a terrific actor and presenting with a proposal to save
Hollywood from all the job losses that they're experiencing. But
it's a lot more complicated than keeping foreign films out
of the United States with tariffs. I mean, for example,
I think eighteen percent of the films that come into
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this country are are so called foreign films, but nobody
watches them. They only produce about one percent of the
box office revenue in America. So if you teariff that,
you're not going to come up with much and it
won't make much of an impact.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
I mean, what's really happening is that, as.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
You all know, the film producers are moving their productions
and I've been doing this for ten, fifteen, twenty years
to where they can get the lowest cost production and
that includes in a significant way tax credits. And it
just started happening with the states. You know, Georgia has
(06:05):
a very had a very good AX credit pro credit program,
and now all the countries are doing the same thing.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
And if you're you know, if you've got a twenty.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Five million dollar budget movie and somebody offers you, you know,
ten or fifteen million dollar credit to bring your production
there're you're.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Going to do it.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
So it's it's not the it's not.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
It's not we're not going to chase bring films back
to America unless we do something about the credit.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
And you know, that's what's really driving this. And I'm
surprised he didn't know that given his background and in TV,
and I think he does, but I just think I
think he's excited about tariffs now, so everything's going to
get it to everything's going to get a tariff bill,
quick question. You know.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I think one of the issues here is that this
industry buy and large loaths President Trump, and I'm sure
President Trump knows that all too well, and yet he's
reaching out to them. I think one of the Trump's
better qualities is he doesn't hold a grudge, and if
he sees something for the greater good, he'll go for it.
And I think he genuinely wants something positive to come
out of this. Do you think that Hollywood has a
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chance to meet him halfway, whether it's tariffs, whether it's
tax incentives, whatever this solution or possible solutions might be.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Can they engage with him or do you think the
animosity is just too strong.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Well, I think they'll engage with him if he starts
talking federal tax credits. So I think there's all sorts
of financial incentives that can be offered to keep production here,
whether it's in Hollywood or anyplace else in the country.
And I think people set their politics aside, particularly Hollywood producers,
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when it comes to money, and so I think the
ideological divide can be bridged very easily with a good
structure to entice people to get their production here in
the United States. The other thing Hollywood needs to do
is to make better movies, and I think that's that's
the other part of the issue. And you know, my
(08:12):
belief is that you know, you look at the popularity
that Trump has with a big, big majority of America,
and if Hollywood produce more movies that would appeal to
that audience, I think they'd find themselves doing a lot better.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
He served as Chairman of the Board and CEO of
Allied Capital Corporation from ninety seven to nine. He is
the host of the Bill Walton Show, joining us here
on Hollywood on the Right with Christian Toto and Ryan
Shuling yours truly speaking about film incentives, I want to
focus on that part of it, Bill, because, as Christian
just pointed out, that could be like the other side
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to the tariffs and trying to motivate, incentive ize American
filmmakers to shoot those films right here and you'll see
on various television productions films you've seen at the end
the Georgia state logo been in place there, They were
in place. I know at one time my home state
of Michigan. For instance, Grand Tarino was filmed in Detroit.
There were massive incentives in order for that to happen,
(09:10):
and then a Republican governor, Rick Snyder comes in. It's
not real popular in conservative circles to provide incentives and
pay taxpayer dollars toward the making of films in any
particular state, and so that kind of went the other way.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But is there a way?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
How would you navigate this if you were to sit
down with President Trump, and I have to imagine that
you might have a zeron something like this, what would
be the best path forward to help ensure that American
films are made right here in the United States.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Well, I think we can start with several tax credits
and offer production companies significant tax credits to cover a
half three quarters of their production budget. And you know
the pushback on that among the Cisco conservatives, and this
is true in the States as well as well.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
You know, we're just giving these people, you know, our tax.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Dollars and they're not really creating enough jobs here in
our stage or in our country. But I think the
national pride part of it would count for a lot.
And I think we could win the argument that's we
talked about focusing on America. The big the looming issue,
as you know, is not just that the foreign other
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countries are luring production away. It's artificial intelligence and it's
all the technology that's beginning to threaten all the jobs
in Hollywood and in the rest of the movie industry globally.
And so I think my view is he's got an
ais are you have in that meeting not just the
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not just the financial types and producers, but also the
technology people because Silicon.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Valley is I want to have a seat at that
table to help figure it out.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
And we're going to have to transition people in the UH,
in the production and the movie production world to be
able to deal with with AI.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
I think we can.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
You know, the other thing he can do is offer
you know, job training or for people that don't have
the skills right now but could have the skills to
stay in the movie business. You know, it could be
camera operators, it could be just the people that you
know work on the sets, but it's it's UH.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
And I think those are the big things, and.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
You could you could keep a lot of a lot
of business there. Then need in the United States and
then the other pieces I said before is he we
ought to be encouraged them to make more movies that
appeals to the MAGA voters.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Bill.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
One thing I've been really puzzled by for years now
is that Hollywood doesn't seem to get it that you
need to reduce the costs. We just talked about a
new Donald Trump biopic which has an alleged price tag
one hundred million, the new Mission Impossible. It comes out
in a few days, and that already has such a
massive budget. It seems almost impossible for to get profitable
(12:05):
just based on past, you know, rates of Mission Impossible films.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Why don't they I don't understand how.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
This industry doesn't dramatically work to shrink costs across the board,
never mind tax incentive, just getting that price point lower
because then you have more ROI horror movies do this
quite well because they just do it on a lower budget.
How is that message not just ricocheting across the industry.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I don't I don't understand it.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Well.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
You know, I was an investor and producer in independent films,
not studio films, obviously, and I you know, I said,
you know.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
You don't make money in films.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
I said this to some wise and veteran in the industry,
and he says, oh, no, no, you do make money
in films. The actors make money, the directors make money,
the cameramen make money, the sound blah blah blah, and
went down the whole list. And I said, so, what's
that leave this said, Well, that leaves you out.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
The investors, don't they. And the other thing is that
you know we talked.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
I heard you talk about Hollywood accounting. If it's a
studio production, what they do is they take the failed
productions and take those costs and put it in the
studio overhead and then allocate.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
It to new films.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
So that's the you know, so your movie could be
paying your movie budget could be paying for two or
three flops that the studio produced in the past. And
you know, Hollywood accounting is that's almost an oxymoron unless
you're it's everybody benefits from big budgets and except for
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the investors. And I think the particularly independent films, you
can raise money because people.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Like the glamor of being in the movie.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Business, or they believe in the script and the cause
or whatever. And so I think the money keeps flowing.
I mean would be on feature film production and streaming
TV and regular TV worldwide. Last year, wasn't it something
like seventy five billion dollars? And you know, Netflix, Disney,
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all the big ones are sending ten, twelve, twenty million
dollars apiece. And it's just never been a cost driven
industry and I don't think it ever will be.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Bill Walton is the founder of rush River Entertainment, joining
us now to follow up on the truth social post
from President Trump about slapping tariffs on filmmakers. I want
to make those films overseas. But Bill, going to an
earlier point you made it. It's very simple, but it's
very telling. You know, just make better movies. Like Christian
pointed out, you know, watch your budget, your bottom line.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You could make more money doing it.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
But what we've seen, I believe you mentioned the streaming services,
but this dwindling interest in the mass consumption of film
based I think on a miscalculation by the film producers.
Meaning half of America, to your point, are Trump supporters, Republicans, conservatives,
and there's a market for that. Yet in spite of themselves,
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Hollywood wants to go hard to the left. We see
these woke boxes you have to check to even qualify
for the Oscars. And by the way, nobody's watching the
Oscars anymore. People don't have that kind of drive to
go to the movie theaters watch those like we saw
that kind of blip on the radar with Maverick. I mean,
there just seems to be a lack of quality business
sense here. Bill, I know you have, but why don't
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more Hollywood producers go, Look, I don't agree with them,
but this is a target audience that's rich for mining.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Let's make a film that appeals to conservatives.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Well, I think if somebody broke broke the mold and
did did produce the film that did Onion two hundred
million passive billion in box office conservative values, I think
a lot of producers in Hollywood would we would be rethinking.
But there's a there's a culture there and if you
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and it's a it's a mindset. And if you if
you step out of that culture and you start saying
the horrible things like you like Donald Trump and what
he's doing, you're ostracized. You never get any more business.
And so there's sort of a natural tendency to focus
you know, to keep people out of the business that
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are not are not progressive leftists.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
And that's true not only in Hollywood, but it starts
in the film schools.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I can't think that what are there a couple of
thousand colleges that are teaching teaching filmmaking around around the country,
and I can't think of a single one that's that's
got a conservative leader. And so, you know, liberal kids,
progressive kids go into the business and there's a dearth
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of talent on the right side of the aisle, and
you know, so there's a massive structural problem.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
But again, I think.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
The answer is is is a break through production that uh,
you know would lead people in that direction?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
You know, Mel Gibson, go ahead, one last question, Bill.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
You know, given this conversation about the tariffs and possible
Trump interaction and even a recent survey that said that
young people gen Z care more about content creators and
what they're making on YouTube and elsewhere, then the movies.
Are you optimistic then this is sort of a real
passion for you. Obviously, it's part of what you do.
Are you optimistic about the future of films in the
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traditional sense or do you think that there's going to
be a significant change in what we see, what we create,
and what we watch.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I think people need stories. I think we're defined by stories.
People respond to it.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
And so if if.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Influencers somehow managed to create good stories, that they will
act attract an audience. That I think that anybody, whether
it's making f or TV or or or even audio product,
podcast product, if you're a good storyteller, you're going to
have an audience. So I think regardless of the medium, uh,
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we're going to have people, you know.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Longing for for good stories.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
And I can't predict which technology it will be that's
telling those stories, but I'd follow that trail if I
wanted to see where the future was going.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Rush River Entertainment founder Bill Walton joining us here on
the right side of Hollywood. Bill, where's the best place
that people can find out more about you?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Well, my website, the Bill waltonshow dot com. I'm also
on YouTube and rumble at. We've got a what we
got a substack page where we post and post the
interviews that you've done. What I what I'm doing is
longer form, you know, forty five minutes, sixty minute, you know,
in depth conversations with people, and they tend to be
(18:56):
more focused on on economics and policy and maybe national security,
although frankly my passions more towards the arts and culture.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
So I'm taking a break this summer, and I think
I might come back.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
I don't know, I might want to get into the
business that you guys are in.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well, we'll certainly have you back. Bill.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
That's been a great conversation, lots of insight. We appreciate
your time so much, and catch him after the hiatus
he talks about for the summer. I wish I could
take one of the Bill waltonshow dot com is where
you can find out more.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Bill, thanks again for joining us. We'll talk again soon.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Great. Thanks really admire what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Thank you, Bill, appreciate that. A long Chris Total, I'm
Ryan Schuling. We're back with more Right Side of Hollywood.
We have our nominees for our Friday Fool of the
Week after this.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
My question is for to James, will you apologize to
President Trump for wasting millions of dollars in the state.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Of New York for a which trial? And how does
it feel to no, You're you will be imprisoned from
mortgage for.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
All thank you for coming. We want to thank him
for coming. We respect all opinions. Everybody knows those allegations
(20:27):
are baseless, they're discredited, and so we want to thank him.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
A few moments later down and now you have this
full circle moment of what the ag accused and charged the.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
President Donald TRUMPOV.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Now she is being indicted by a grand jury, or
at least we're seeing subpoena is issued.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
By a grand jury. Now the very same charges one
of the answers.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
It's just irony all around.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
And I can't help but.
Speaker 9 (20:56):
Laugh at where we find ourselves now, because you're sitting
here saying this is somebody who ran in twenty eighteen
on making promises that she.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Was going to take down Donald Trump.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
And I don't know if these people just continue to
think that they are above the law and that what
they do is just never going to get found out.
But there should be a really big wake up call
to any other Democrats who have some skeletons in their closet,
that someone's coming from you and it's going to be
found out.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I don't know who it was on Fox News, but
made the great point that Letitia James doth protest too much.
She's our first nominee for our Friday Fool of the Week.
You heard that exchange there with a New Yorker who
was a Trump supporter out in the field. To know
you're going to be in prison, I'll show myself out.
(21:42):
But this was not an isolated quote from Letitia James
just trying to dismiss it, trying to say that those
allegations were discredited and base list. But you just heard
there's been a subpoena issued on behalf of a grand jury.
And this was her losing her mind on the topic
this week as well.
Speaker 10 (22:01):
And you want me to sit in my seat and
stand idly by and allow this craziness to happen. You
could come after me if you want. But you elected
me to stand up. You elected me to use the law.
You elected me to go to court. You elected me
to continue to challenge this administration. You elected me to
(22:24):
stand up for the least of god children. You elected
me to continue fighting on, and I will fight on.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Didn't she register?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
The allegation is for a home that she had a
mortgage on as being married to her own father.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
They're very close to be fair.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Oh okay, you know it's funny Jimmy Fayala as a
line he uses a lot. When you have the facts,
you pound the facts. When you don't have the facts,
you pound the table. This is the verbal equivalent of
her pounding the table. She had nothing, H have a
sense no, And.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I think there's a lot more legal heat coming her way.
And it's deliciously ironic. As you heard in that first
clip from eighty Robbins. She's a host on Newsmax and
it might not be over, and it might get a
little bit hotter, a little bit more difficult for Latitia James,
and nobody deserves it more. I mean, going on, behalf
of New Yorkers who voted you in. She said it
(23:15):
right there in that kind of maniacal rant, that.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You elected me to go get Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
How about laws and issues and cases that affect me
as a New Yorker living in this state.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I don't care whether you get Donald Trump or not.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I know there are those on the far left that
probably do Christian but I have to believe even like
center left Democrats in New York do not want her
to be doing that.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Make this place safe.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
It's becoming like the it was the late eighties, nineties, Oh,
the really bad in the seventh Julianni who was a disaster,
and then we had a lot of good times in
New York City.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You're a O G. New Yorker.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yes, yes, I remember the good the bad.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
The Bernard gets stories and I read the headlines and
I'm so glad I'm here and I'm not there anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Did you see Bernard as a Bernie not your dog
who I love?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Not?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Why not him? That guy?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I don't think this Bernie's as bad, but I guess
it's over for interpretation, Pierce. This is so Senator Bernie
Sanders was confronted. He went on Fox News. Credit to him. Yeah,
he was there with Brett Baer and he was answering
the question the criticism which is also coming from his
own side. Senator alyssa slopkin ostensible moderate. She tries to
(24:27):
present herself as such from my home state of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Say look in maybe ditch.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
The whole oligarchy argument. It's a big fifty cent word.
Most people don't know what it is or care when
they hear it. And yet you're fighting the oligarchy by
living as a person who is of the oligarchy using
a private jet to fly everywhere to fight the oligarchy.
(24:52):
Bernie was confronted on this, and well, you judge for
yourself whether the answer makes him the fool of the week.
Speaker 11 (24:57):
Alyssa Slockin Center from Michigan's said, you shouldn't be using
an oligarchy.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
It's over people's head.
Speaker 11 (25:03):
You've gotten criticized from other people. Freebeacon says Bernie Sanders
spent two hundred and twenty one thousand on private jets fighting
the oligarchy tour paid for by friends of Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
That you've spent.
Speaker 11 (25:14):
Millions of dollars in campaign funds on private.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Jet travel over the years.
Speaker 11 (25:19):
How do you push back on both of those when the.
Speaker 12 (25:21):
Last time you saw Donald Trump during a campaign mode
at National Airport.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
No, no, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 11 (25:27):
But he's also not fighting the oligarchy.
Speaker 12 (25:30):
And you run a campaign and you do three or
four or five rallies in a week. The only way
you can get around to book the thirty thousand people.
I think I'm going to be sitting on a waiting
line at United waiting. You know what, thirty thousand people
are waiting. That's the only way you can get around
no apologies for that. That's what a campaign travel is about.
We've done it in the past, We're going to do
it in the future.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
What you expect me to be waiting in an airport
for United like everybody else, like all these other pollet chumps.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Wait a minute, aren't those the port chumps you pretend
to be representing here, Christian?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I like the specific use of the term or phrase
no apologies, digging in, doubling down.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
What a fraud.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I mean, even if you're a Bernie Brower supporter out there,
and we both know people who go to these rallies, Christian,
how can you defend that and be like he's one.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
He's flying around in a private jet.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Most of the average common blue collar Joe that he's
pretending to pretending to be fighting for can't do that,
can't afford to do that.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Not relatable. But further to that point, Christian, what about
the environment? Of course, about climate change and emissions. He's living,
he's leaving a very large carbon footprint, he is, But
he's not alone.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I mean, there's so many young friendly liberals who are
just doing much much worse. Leonardo Dicapriy over the years
and all his adulting activities. So he's in good company.
And I use that term loosely. Listen, That's why these
things matter, because then you could judge. You can say, Okay,
I heard Bernie Sanders, this is what he said. I
could agree with him. I could disagree with him. I
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think you know where we stand. But you need journalists
to ask those questions. And Brett Bair did it in
a very succinct, professional, dry, straightforward matter.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And it just shows you again these Democrats don't have
those muscles anymore to really debating Donald Trump doesn't do it.
Donald Trump's not pretending to fight the oligarch. That's his
first response, by the way.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, I give him a smidge of credit because he
went he did pitt it from there, But that the
fact that that was his first response pretty weak, pretty.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Week indeed, and it makes him a Fool of the
Week nominee along with the Latitia James Senator Bernie Sanders.
And we bring it back home locally for our third
and final nominee. This is Senator Chris Kolker, Democrat District sixteen,
mocking our Lord and Savior for those of us who
practice Catholicism or Christianity, Jesus Christ citing Talladega Knights and
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then talking about being met at the gates of Heaven,
those pearly gates by trans Jesus, all in one clip.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Are you kidding me? Nope.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
I'm accountable to Almighty God because I'm standing up pre
quality that my decisions. One day I will stand before
him and be accountable.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Well, this is what I believe.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
You ever seen that movie Talladega Knights, and you see
that section where they're talking around the dinner table and
they're talking about what their favorite version.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Of Jesus is.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
All right, baby Jesus, I love Baby Jesus, and the
guy goes, well, I love Leonard Skinner Jesus when the
angels are behind him and the choir is singing and
he's playing pre Bird. Well, my day of judgment, I
might be standing in front of trans Jesus.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
That's what I believe, and I believe that Jesus God,
we'll look at me and say, you stood up for people.
You sit up for those who we're less fortunate, who struggled.
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You may pass, you may answer. I encourage an eye
of them.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
A serious question for Senator Colker. Has he read the
bill thirteen twelve. That's not what this is about. For
affirming transgender adults. I'm all for that quite frankly, as
long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Very libertarian about it.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
What you, Senator Colker, have this supported and put onto
Governor Polis's desk is you're going to look trans Jesus
as you call him, in the face and say, you know,
as God created these children, they are made in God's image.
You allowed these children to mutilate themselves, remove and try
to frankenstein body parts to themselves, and you think you're
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going to be met at the gates of heaven.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
A good job pat them back. Come on in this
was wild man, it's wild. There's a lot of unpacked there.
He go is off the charts.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
The religion of woke is equally so.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
The self righteousness really kind of smacks you across the face.
There's just a lot. There's a lot to process with
that quote. And the smugness too is certainly part of
that equally.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And part of the mocking. The Tallavega Knights reference, that's
a comedy movie. That's a comical scene. I'm I'm not,
you know, prude issue with Okay, that's funny, you know
eight eight pounds six sounds for baby Jesus and Will
Ferrell as Ricky Bobby praying that. I mean that's fun
This is not funny. Lives are on the line. You're
you're mutilating children, You're you're permanently damaging them, and they're
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for their entire course of their lives. And he totally misses,
to my view, the point of the bill thirteen twelve.
So those are your nominees, Latitia James, New York Attorney General,
Tide turning the boomerang coming back on her in the
legal realm.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Senator Bernie centers, I don't want to wait to unite it.
I don't have to do that. I'm not one of you.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I thought you said you were one of us, anyway,
and then Senator Chris Kolker there mocking Jesus with thirteen twelve,
a time out. We'll get to your votes. We'll get
Christians decision on that one as well. We got a
text asking him a question at five seven, seven, three nine.
Cast your votes right now the right side of Hollywood
concludes for this Friday edition.
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Appreciate his time and along with Christian Toto, I'm Ryan
Sholing wrapping up this week's edition of the Right Side
of Hollywood for This Friday got some votes coming in five, seven, seven, three, nine,
for our Friday Fool of the Week of years tuning
in Latisiha James, Bernie Sanders, and locally Senator Chris Kolker, Democrat,
sixteenth District. Jim says, my vote is for Latisha James,
(33:39):
who proves the Dunning Kruger effect. The smarter you feel,
the dumber you are, very good, Jim. This one says, Hey, Kelly,
throw a vote for Letitia James. Stupid is as stupid?
Does are you asking Kelly to rig the election? I
don't even think she's in the building at the moments.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Well stuff that ballot boy, Yeah, well check with their
it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
My vote is for Chris Colker, who said he might
face a trans Jesus. What an insane thing to say.
This voter agrees. I vote for Senator Colker ko L
K E R. By the way, the spelling on that.
If you'd like to send him an email and let
him know what you think of his trans Jesus Talladaga
(34:23):
Knight's take.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
It was bizarre. It was off the wall. Christian. You
have a vote.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Cast it all in on Colker.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
It's amazing. It's sniff competition as always, so no easy task.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I can't believe Bernie's getting away with the private jet thing.
I don't want to go to d I a s
the wait for a ticket. I can't do that, Like,
why not you're one of us? Oh, you're not one
of us?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Okay, I just line.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Stuff is really really kind of gets in my cross.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I don't want to get shut up.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
You know, Buddy Sanders, Uh, heavy metal rock bands were
able to tour the entire country by that's right.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Go watch Almost Famous, right, yeah, Classic Tale along those lines.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
And finally, Alexa Christian, do you think any of Hollywood's
elite will be taken down by information and testimonies during
the p Diddy trial?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Oh that's a tough one. There was such an interesting overlap.
But I'm so cynical now after the Epstein Files and
all the things we've been watching in the last few years,
I have to say, no, I don't think. I don't
think it's a no in that it didn't happen. I
think it's a no. And just the powerful people seem
to shield themselves. They just seem to get away with stuff.
(35:34):
So that's my cynical take. Well it's cynical, but it's right.
So you can't get too mad at you about it.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Christian, Thanks for all you do and thanks for the website,
Hollywood Intoto dot com. Like I said, it's my fiance
kelsey'ser go to, it's our favorite, and it can be
yours as well. Be sure to subscribe, download and listen
to his Hollywood and Toto podcast as well. Christian, have
a great weekend. Fun hanging out with you at the
ball game yesterday. Oh a great time.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Go Tiger's.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Sorry Rockies fans, that was a mass of I'd like
to report a murder.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
George Brocklaw joins me after that. Stay tuned
And yes we are here. We are down one co
host and panelists. However, as Deborah Floor is welcoming her
son back from college, I think.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Is what's going on in her life.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And Christian Toto, he is riding shotgun right here, and
he is armed with said shotga, literally riding shotgun.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
With wit and wisdom.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hollywoodintoto dot com is where you can find him. That's
his central hub and website. And just to start things off,
Christian the very latest there. My fiancee Kelsey is a
big fan of your site, sort of the few blogs
and how it's constructed. She says that she it's their
go to every time that she goes online. So tell
the people what they can find.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah, I just posted a story about a new Donald
Trump biopic which is in the works.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Now.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
We just saw The Apprentice last year, which wasn't an
expansive look at Donald Trump. It was more like in
the eighties how he became a player in a sense,
and of course under the alleged tutelage of Roy Kohne,
the evil, wicked one. Now they're looking at something that's
more comprehensive, that kind of maybe has a bigger scope
to it and According to Deadline, this particular project has
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a one hundred million dollar budget. Now that's crazy because
The Apprentice made four million stateside. There's clearly not a
huge appetite. I mean, listen, Donald Trump is everywhere the president.
We can't escape him from the headlines. Love him or
hate him, that's just who he is right now. And
the fact that they already made a film that touched
on him that bombed, and now they're making a second film,
(01:31):
which allegedly would be more kind to him. But still
that budget is not going to get you, and it's
not going to get your profitability. It's just not a
movie like that is just not going to make enough
money where you have a one hundred million dollar budget.
I just don't understand, Hollywood. I don't understand the accounting.
You know, there's kind of a common phrase, Hollywood accounting.
(01:51):
It's sort of little nefarious, a little bit mysterious, a
little bit maybe not on the up and up. But
this is just ridiculous. And I think, really the story
is that if you want to do a Trump biopic,
wait five, ten, maybe even fifteen years, wait till he's
out of office.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Emotions are cooler. We can look at what he's.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Done, the full scope of his work, and then tell
the story, because it's an amazing story.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I just don't think that people can help themselves, especially
those who are opposed to him. Although you and I
believe watched The Imprentice to get her, we did do
with Sebastian stan Right.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Good performance.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I liked it a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I thought he was very committed to the role and
portrayed him in a very accurate way. Now, the storyline,
maybe you can say that left a lot to be desired,
but you could see the animosity, yes, sehind it and
that's what you and I picked up on.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
So leave it to Christian again.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You can find more of that analysis at Hollywood intoto
dot com. To provide the perfect segue to a guess
that we're very happy to have to discuss the true
social post from Donald Trump that was a bombshell for Hollywood.
On Sunday, he wrote the following quote, movie industry in
America is dying all cap a very fast death. A
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lot of words that are capitalized here that shouldn't be
or don't need to be. He loves doing that in
the truth social posts too, Trump claiming quote other countries
are offering all sorts of incentives to draw our filmmakers
and studios away from the United States. Hollywood and many
other areas within the USA are being devastated, the President
(03:23):
saying that the situation was quote a concerted effort by
other nations and therefore a national security threat. He continued,
it is in addition to everything else, messaging and propaganda.
But is this going to work? Bill Walton, not the
legendary basketball player who we lost over the last year,
(03:44):
but the Bill Walton. He's the non woke CEO. He's
the host of The Bill Walton Show. Formerly served on
the action and landing teams for President Trump's twenty sixteen
presidential transition team founded Rush River Entertainment, which was a
producer of Max Rose starring Jerry Lewis, released in August
twenty sixteen. Early cut of that screen That Caine's Film Festival.
(04:05):
In twenty thirteen, a second film, The Ticket, starring Dan Stevens,
was selected as one of only ten films for Tribeca
Film Festivals twenty sixteen US narrative competition. He knows a
thing or two about the movie making industry, joins us.
Now on the right side of Hollywood with yours truly,
Ryan Schuling and Christian Toto.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Bill, thank you for your time.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Oh great to be on. I've admired what you guys
do you Hollywood.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
On the right, we need that perspective, Well.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
We need your perspective from that orientation politically.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Bill, We're glad to have it here on this show today.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But your initial reaction to President Trump kind of wading
into those waters with the tariffs on Hollywood films that
might be made overseas out of the country, trying to
reinvest in American filmmaking, What are the pluses and minuses
of that as you see it.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Well, you know, for every problem, Donald Trump says that
you can all that with tariffs.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
And I guess this all.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Came out of a meeting ahead with John Voyd is
a terrific actor and presenting with a proposal to save
Hollywood from all the job losses that they're experiencing. But
it's a lot more complicated than keeping foreign films out
of the United States with tariffs. I mean, for example,
I think eighteen percent of the films that come into
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this country are are so called foreign films, but nobody
watches them. They only produce about one percent of the
box office revenue in America. So if you teariff that,
you're not going to come up with much and it
won't make much of an impact.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
I mean, what's really happening is that, as.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
You all know, the film producers are moving their productions
and I've been doing this for ten, fifteen, twenty years
to where they can get the lowest cost production and
that includes in a significant way tax credits. And it
just started happening with the states. You know, Georgia has
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a very had a very good AX credit pro credit program,
and now all the countries are doing the same thing.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
And if you're you know, if you've got a twenty.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Five million dollar budget movie and somebody offers you, you know,
ten or fifteen million dollar credit to bring your production
there're you're.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Going to do it.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
So it's it's not the it's not.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
It's not we're not going to chase bring films back
to America unless we do something about the credit.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
And you know, that's what's really driving this. And I'm
surprised he didn't know that given his background and in TV,
and I think he does, but I just think I
think he's excited about tariffs now, so everything's going to
get it to everything's going to get a tariff bill,
quick question. You know.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I think one of the issues here is that this
industry buy and large loaths President Trump, and I'm sure
President Trump knows that all too well, and yet he's
reaching out to them. I think one of the Trump's
better qualities is he doesn't hold a grudge, and if
he sees something for the greater good, he'll go for it.
And I think he genuinely wants something positive to come
out of this. Do you think that Hollywood has a
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chance to meet him halfway, whether it's tariffs, whether it's
tax incentives, whatever this solution or possible solutions might be.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Can they engage with him or do you think the
animosity is just too strong.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Well, I think they'll engage with him if he starts
talking federal tax credits. So I think there's all sorts
of financial incentives that can be offered to keep production here,
whether it's in Hollywood or anyplace else in the country.
And I think people set their politics aside, particularly Hollywood producers,
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when it comes to money, and so I think the
ideological divide can be bridged very easily with a good
structure to entice people to get their production here in
the United States. The other thing Hollywood needs to do
is to make better movies, and I think that's that's
the other part of the issue. And you know, my
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belief is that you know, you look at the popularity
that Trump has with a big, big majority of America,
and if Hollywood produce more movies that would appeal to
that audience, I think they'd find themselves doing a lot better.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
He served as Chairman of the Board and CEO of
Allied Capital Corporation from ninety seven to nine. He is
the host of the Bill Walton Show, joining us here
on Hollywood on the Right with Christian Toto and Ryan
Shuling yours truly speaking about film incentives, I want to
focus on that part of it, Bill, because, as Christian
just pointed out, that could be like the other side
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to the tariffs and trying to motivate, incentive ize American
filmmakers to shoot those films right here and you'll see
on various television productions films you've seen at the end
the Georgia state logo been in place there, They were
in place. I know at one time my home state
of Michigan. For instance, Grand Tarino was filmed in Detroit.
There were massive incentives in order for that to happen,
(09:10):
and then a Republican governor, Rick Snyder comes in. It's
not real popular in conservative circles to provide incentives and
pay taxpayer dollars toward the making of films in any
particular state, and so that kind of went the other way.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But is there a way?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
How would you navigate this if you were to sit
down with President Trump, and I have to imagine that
you might have a zeron something like this, what would
be the best path forward to help ensure that American
films are made right here in the United States.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Well, I think we can start with several tax credits
and offer production companies significant tax credits to cover a
half three quarters of their production budget. And you know
the pushback on that among the Cisco conservatives, and this
is true in the States as well as well.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
You know, we're just giving these people, you know, our tax.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Dollars and they're not really creating enough jobs here in
our stage or in our country. But I think the
national pride part of it would count for a lot.
And I think we could win the argument that's we
talked about focusing on America. The big the looming issue,
as you know, is not just that the foreign other
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countries are luring production away. It's artificial intelligence and it's
all the technology that's beginning to threaten all the jobs
in Hollywood and in the rest of the movie industry globally.
And so I think my view is he's got an
ais are you have in that meeting not just the
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not just the financial types and producers, but also the
technology people because Silicon.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Valley is I want to have a seat at that
table to help figure it out.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
And we're going to have to transition people in the UH,
in the production and the movie production world to be
able to deal with with AI.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
I think we can.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
You know, the other thing he can do is offer
you know, job training or for people that don't have
the skills right now but could have the skills to
stay in the movie business. You know, it could be
camera operators, it could be just the people that you
know work on the sets, but it's it's UH.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
And I think those are the big things, and.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
You could you could keep a lot of a lot
of business there. Then need in the United States and
then the other pieces I said before is he we
ought to be encouraged them to make more movies that
appeals to the MAGA voters.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Bill.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
One thing I've been really puzzled by for years now
is that Hollywood doesn't seem to get it that you
need to reduce the costs. We just talked about a
new Donald Trump biopic which has an alleged price tag
one hundred million, the new Mission Impossible. It comes out
in a few days, and that already has such a
massive budget. It seems almost impossible for to get profitable
(12:05):
just based on past, you know, rates of Mission Impossible films.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Why don't they I don't understand how.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
This industry doesn't dramatically work to shrink costs across the board,
never mind tax incentive, just getting that price point lower
because then you have more ROI horror movies do this
quite well because they just do it on a lower budget.
How is that message not just ricocheting across the industry.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I don't I don't understand it.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Well.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
You know, I was an investor and producer in independent films,
not studio films, obviously, and I you know, I said,
you know.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
You don't make money in films.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
I said this to some wise and veteran in the industry,
and he says, oh, no, no, you do make money
in films. The actors make money, the directors make money,
the cameramen make money, the sound blah blah blah, and
went down the whole list. And I said, so, what's
that leave this said, Well, that leaves you out.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
The investors, don't they. And the other thing is that
you know we talked.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
I heard you talk about Hollywood accounting. If it's a
studio production, what they do is they take the failed
productions and take those costs and put it in the
studio overhead and then allocate.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
It to new films.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
So that's the you know, so your movie could be
paying your movie budget could be paying for two or
three flops that the studio produced in the past. And
you know, Hollywood accounting is that's almost an oxymoron unless
you're it's everybody benefits from big budgets and except for
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the investors. And I think the particularly independent films, you
can raise money because people.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Like the glamor of being in the movie.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Business, or they believe in the script and the cause
or whatever. And so I think the money keeps flowing.
I mean would be on feature film production and streaming
TV and regular TV worldwide. Last year, wasn't it something
like seventy five billion dollars? And you know, Netflix, Disney,
(14:13):
all the big ones are sending ten, twelve, twenty million
dollars apiece. And it's just never been a cost driven
industry and I don't think it ever will be.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Bill Walton is the founder of rush River Entertainment, joining
us now to follow up on the truth social post
from President Trump about slapping tariffs on filmmakers. I want
to make those films overseas. But Bill, going to an
earlier point you made it. It's very simple, but it's
very telling. You know, just make better movies. Like Christian
pointed out, you know, watch your budget, your bottom line.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You could make more money doing it.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
But what we've seen, I believe you mentioned the streaming services,
but this dwindling interest in the mass consumption of film
based I think on a miscalculation by the film producers.
Meaning half of America, to your point, are Trump supporters, Republicans, conservatives,
and there's a market for that. Yet in spite of themselves,
(15:08):
Hollywood wants to go hard to the left. We see
these woke boxes you have to check to even qualify
for the Oscars. And by the way, nobody's watching the
Oscars anymore. People don't have that kind of drive to
go to the movie theaters watch those like we saw
that kind of blip on the radar with Maverick. I mean,
there just seems to be a lack of quality business
sense here. Bill, I know you have, but why don't
(15:29):
more Hollywood producers go, Look, I don't agree with them,
but this is a target audience that's rich for mining.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Let's make a film that appeals to conservatives.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Well, I think if somebody broke broke the mold and
did did produce the film that did Onion two hundred
million passive billion in box office conservative values, I think
a lot of producers in Hollywood would we would be rethinking.
But there's a there's a culture there and if you
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and it's a it's a mindset. And if you if
you step out of that culture and you start saying
the horrible things like you like Donald Trump and what
he's doing, you're ostracized. You never get any more business.
And so there's sort of a natural tendency to focus
you know, to keep people out of the business that
(16:20):
are not are not progressive leftists.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
And that's true not only in Hollywood, but it starts
in the film schools.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I can't think that what are there a couple of
thousand colleges that are teaching teaching filmmaking around around the country,
and I can't think of a single one that's that's
got a conservative leader. And so, you know, liberal kids,
progressive kids go into the business and there's a dearth
(16:47):
of talent on the right side of the aisle, and
you know, so there's a massive structural problem.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
But again, I think.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
The answer is is is a break through production that uh,
you know would lead people in that direction?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
You know, Mel Gibson, go ahead, one last question, Bill.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
You know, given this conversation about the tariffs and possible
Trump interaction and even a recent survey that said that
young people gen Z care more about content creators and
what they're making on YouTube and elsewhere, then the movies.
Are you optimistic then this is sort of a real
passion for you. Obviously, it's part of what you do.
Are you optimistic about the future of films in the
(17:33):
traditional sense or do you think that there's going to
be a significant change in what we see, what we create,
and what we watch.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I think people need stories. I think we're defined by stories.
People respond to it.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
And so if if.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Influencers somehow managed to create good stories, that they will
act attract an audience. That I think that anybody, whether
it's making f or TV or or or even audio product,
podcast product, if you're a good storyteller, you're going to
have an audience. So I think regardless of the medium, uh,
(18:12):
we're going to have people, you know.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Longing for for good stories.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
And I can't predict which technology it will be that's
telling those stories, but I'd follow that trail if I
wanted to see where the future was going.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Rush River Entertainment founder Bill Walton joining us here on
the right side of Hollywood. Bill, where's the best place
that people can find out more about you?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Well, my website, the Bill waltonshow dot com. I'm also
on YouTube and rumble at. We've got a what we
got a substack page where we post and post the
interviews that you've done. What I what I'm doing is
longer form, you know, forty five minutes, sixty minute, you know,
in depth conversations with people, and they tend to be
(18:56):
more focused on on economics and policy and maybe national security,
although frankly my passions more towards the arts and culture.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
So I'm taking a break this summer, and I think
I might come back.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
I don't know, I might want to get into the
business that you guys are in.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well, we'll certainly have you back. Bill.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
That's been a great conversation, lots of insight. We appreciate
your time so much, and catch him after the hiatus
he talks about for the summer. I wish I could
take one of the Bill waltonshow dot com is where
you can find out more.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Bill, thanks again for joining us. We'll talk again soon.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Great. Thanks really admire what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Thank you, Bill, appreciate that. A long Chris Total, I'm
Ryan Schuling. We're back with more Right Side of Hollywood.
We have our nominees for our Friday Fool of the
Week after this.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
My question is for to James, will you apologize to
President Trump for wasting millions of dollars in the state.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Of New York for a which trial? And how does
it feel to no, You're you will be imprisoned from
mortgage for.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
All thank you for coming. We want to thank him
for coming. We respect all opinions. Everybody knows those allegations
(20:27):
are baseless, they're discredited, and so we want to thank him.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
A few moments later down and now you have this
full circle moment of what the ag accused and charged the.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
President Donald TRUMPOV.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Now she is being indicted by a grand jury, or
at least we're seeing subpoena is issued.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
By a grand jury. Now the very same charges one
of the answers.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
It's just irony all around.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
And I can't help but.
Speaker 9 (20:56):
Laugh at where we find ourselves now, because you're sitting
here saying this is somebody who ran in twenty eighteen
on making promises that she.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Was going to take down Donald Trump.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
And I don't know if these people just continue to
think that they are above the law and that what
they do is just never going to get found out.
But there should be a really big wake up call
to any other Democrats who have some skeletons in their closet,
that someone's coming from you and it's going to be
found out.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I don't know who it was on Fox News, but
made the great point that Letitia James doth protest too much.
She's our first nominee for our Friday Fool of the Week.
You heard that exchange there with a New Yorker who
was a Trump supporter out in the field. To know
you're going to be in prison, I'll show myself out.
(21:42):
But this was not an isolated quote from Letitia James
just trying to dismiss it, trying to say that those
allegations were discredited and base list. But you just heard
there's been a subpoena issued on behalf of a grand jury.
And this was her losing her mind on the topic
this week as well.
Speaker 10 (22:01):
And you want me to sit in my seat and
stand idly by and allow this craziness to happen. You
could come after me if you want. But you elected
me to stand up. You elected me to use the law.
You elected me to go to court. You elected me
to continue to challenge this administration. You elected me to
(22:24):
stand up for the least of god children. You elected
me to continue fighting on, and I will fight on.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Didn't she register?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
The allegation is for a home that she had a
mortgage on as being married to her own father.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
They're very close to be fair.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Oh okay, you know it's funny Jimmy Fayala as a
line he uses a lot. When you have the facts,
you pound the facts. When you don't have the facts,
you pound the table. This is the verbal equivalent of
her pounding the table. She had nothing, H have a
sense no, And.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I think there's a lot more legal heat coming her way.
And it's deliciously ironic. As you heard in that first
clip from eighty Robbins. She's a host on Newsmax and
it might not be over, and it might get a
little bit hotter, a little bit more difficult for Latitia James,
and nobody deserves it more. I mean, going on, behalf
of New Yorkers who voted you in. She said it
(23:15):
right there in that kind of maniacal rant, that.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You elected me to go get Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
How about laws and issues and cases that affect me
as a New Yorker living in this state.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I don't care whether you get Donald Trump or not.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I know there are those on the far left that
probably do Christian but I have to believe even like
center left Democrats in New York do not want her
to be doing that.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Make this place safe.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
It's becoming like the it was the late eighties, nineties, Oh,
the really bad in the seventh Julianni who was a disaster,
and then we had a lot of good times in
New York City.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You're a O G. New Yorker.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yes, yes, I remember the good the bad.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
The Bernard gets stories and I read the headlines and
I'm so glad I'm here and I'm not there anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Did you see Bernard as a Bernie not your dog
who I love?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Not?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Why not him? That guy?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I don't think this Bernie's as bad, but I guess
it's over for interpretation, Pierce. This is so Senator Bernie
Sanders was confronted. He went on Fox News. Credit to him. Yeah,
he was there with Brett Baer and he was answering
the question the criticism which is also coming from his
own side. Senator alyssa slopkin ostensible moderate. She tries to
(24:27):
present herself as such from my home state of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Say look in maybe ditch.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
The whole oligarchy argument. It's a big fifty cent word.
Most people don't know what it is or care when
they hear it. And yet you're fighting the oligarchy by
living as a person who is of the oligarchy using
a private jet to fly everywhere to fight the oligarchy.
(24:52):
Bernie was confronted on this, and well, you judge for
yourself whether the answer makes him the fool of the week.
Speaker 11 (24:57):
Alyssa Slockin Center from Michigan's said, you shouldn't be using
an oligarchy.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
It's over people's head.
Speaker 11 (25:03):
You've gotten criticized from other people. Freebeacon says Bernie Sanders
spent two hundred and twenty one thousand on private jets fighting
the oligarchy tour paid for by friends of Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
That you've spent.
Speaker 11 (25:14):
Millions of dollars in campaign funds on private.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Jet travel over the years.
Speaker 11 (25:19):
How do you push back on both of those when the.
Speaker 12 (25:21):
Last time you saw Donald Trump during a campaign mode
at National Airport.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
No, no, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 11 (25:27):
But he's also not fighting the oligarchy.
Speaker 12 (25:30):
And you run a campaign and you do three or
four or five rallies in a week. The only way
you can get around to book the thirty thousand people.
I think I'm going to be sitting on a waiting
line at United waiting. You know what, thirty thousand people
are waiting. That's the only way you can get around
no apologies for that. That's what a campaign travel is about.
We've done it in the past, We're going to do
it in the future.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
What you expect me to be waiting in an airport
for United like everybody else, like all these other pollet chumps.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Wait a minute, aren't those the port chumps you pretend
to be representing here, Christian?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I like the specific use of the term or phrase
no apologies, digging in, doubling down.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
What a fraud.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I mean, even if you're a Bernie Brower supporter out there,
and we both know people who go to these rallies, Christian,
how can you defend that and be like he's one.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
He's flying around in a private jet.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Most of the average common blue collar Joe that he's
pretending to pretending to be fighting for can't do that,
can't afford to do that.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Not relatable. But further to that point, Christian, what about
the environment? Of course, about climate change and emissions. He's living,
he's leaving a very large carbon footprint, he is, But
he's not alone.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I mean, there's so many young friendly liberals who are
just doing much much worse. Leonardo Dicapriy over the years
and all his adulting activities. So he's in good company.
And I use that term loosely. Listen, That's why these
things matter, because then you could judge. You can say, Okay,
I heard Bernie Sanders, this is what he said. I
could agree with him. I could disagree with him. I
(27:01):
think you know where we stand. But you need journalists
to ask those questions. And Brett Bair did it in
a very succinct, professional, dry, straightforward matter.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And it just shows you again these Democrats don't have
those muscles anymore to really debating Donald Trump doesn't do it.
Donald Trump's not pretending to fight the oligarch. That's his
first response, by the way.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, I give him a smidge of credit because he
went he did pitt it from there, But that the
fact that that was his first response pretty weak, pretty.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Week indeed, and it makes him a Fool of the
Week nominee along with the Latitia James Senator Bernie Sanders.
And we bring it back home locally for our third
and final nominee. This is Senator Chris Kolker, Democrat District sixteen,
mocking our Lord and Savior for those of us who
practice Catholicism or Christianity, Jesus Christ citing Talladega Knights and
(27:50):
then talking about being met at the gates of Heaven,
those pearly gates by trans Jesus, all in one clip.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Are you kidding me? Nope.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
I'm accountable to Almighty God because I'm standing up pre
quality that my decisions. One day I will stand before
him and be accountable.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Well, this is what I believe.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
You ever seen that movie Talladega Knights, and you see
that section where they're talking around the dinner table and
they're talking about what their favorite version.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Of Jesus is.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
All right, baby Jesus, I love Baby Jesus, and the
guy goes, well, I love Leonard Skinner Jesus when the
angels are behind him and the choir is singing and
he's playing pre Bird. Well, my day of judgment, I
might be standing in front of trans Jesus.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
That's what I believe, and I believe that Jesus God,
we'll look at me and say, you stood up for people.
You sit up for those who we're less fortunate, who struggled.
(29:13):
You may pass, you may answer. I encourage an eye
of them.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
A serious question for Senator Colker. Has he read the
bill thirteen twelve. That's not what this is about. For
affirming transgender adults. I'm all for that quite frankly, as
long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Very libertarian about it.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
What you, Senator Colker, have this supported and put onto
Governor Polis's desk is you're going to look trans Jesus
as you call him, in the face and say, you know,
as God created these children, they are made in God's image.
You allowed these children to mutilate themselves, remove and try
to frankenstein body parts to themselves, and you think you're
(29:52):
going to be met at the gates of heaven.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
A good job pat them back. Come on in this
was wild man, it's wild. There's a lot of unpacked there.
He go is off the charts.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
The religion of woke is equally so.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
The self righteousness really kind of smacks you across the face.
There's just a lot. There's a lot to process with
that quote. And the smugness too is certainly part of
that equally.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And part of the mocking. The Tallavega Knights reference, that's
a comedy movie. That's a comical scene. I'm I'm not,
you know, prude issue with Okay, that's funny, you know
eight eight pounds six sounds for baby Jesus and Will
Ferrell as Ricky Bobby praying that. I mean that's fun
This is not funny. Lives are on the line. You're
you're mutilating children, You're you're permanently damaging them, and they're
(30:38):
for their entire course of their lives. And he totally misses,
to my view, the point of the bill thirteen twelve.
So those are your nominees, Latitia James, New York Attorney General,
Tide turning the boomerang coming back on her in the
legal realm.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Senator Bernie centers, I don't want to wait to unite it.
I don't have to do that. I'm not one of you.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I thought you said you were one of us, anyway,
and then Senator Chris Kolker there mocking Jesus with thirteen twelve,
a time out. We'll get to your votes. We'll get
Christians decision on that one as well. We got a
text asking him a question at five seven, seven, three nine.
Cast your votes right now the right side of Hollywood
concludes for this Friday edition.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
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those two games, the first one, we want Airic Gordon
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to get them to win and steal it on.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
The road and make sure the crowd went silent. And
then in game two it.
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(33:16):
Appreciate his time and along with Christian Toto, I'm Ryan
Sholing wrapping up this week's edition of the Right Side
of Hollywood for This Friday got some votes coming in five, seven, seven, three, nine,
for our Friday Fool of the Week of years tuning
in Latisiha James, Bernie Sanders, and locally Senator Chris Kolker, Democrat,
sixteenth District. Jim says, my vote is for Latisha James,
(33:39):
who proves the Dunning Kruger effect. The smarter you feel,
the dumber you are, very good, Jim. This one says, Hey, Kelly,
throw a vote for Letitia James. Stupid is as stupid?
Does are you asking Kelly to rig the election? I
don't even think she's in the building at the moments.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Well stuff that ballot boy, Yeah, well check with their
it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
My vote is for Chris Colker, who said he might
face a trans Jesus. What an insane thing to say.
This voter agrees. I vote for Senator Colker ko L
K E R. By the way, the spelling on that.
If you'd like to send him an email and let
him know what you think of his trans Jesus Talladaga
(34:23):
Knight's take.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
It was bizarre. It was off the wall. Christian. You
have a vote.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Cast it all in on Colker.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
It's amazing. It's sniff competition as always, so no easy task.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I can't believe Bernie's getting away with the private jet thing.
I don't want to go to d I a s
the wait for a ticket. I can't do that, Like,
why not you're one of us? Oh, you're not one
of us?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Okay, I just line.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Stuff is really really kind of gets in my cross.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I don't want to get shut up.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
You know, Buddy Sanders, Uh, heavy metal rock bands were
able to tour the entire country by that's right.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Go watch Almost Famous, right, yeah, Classic Tale along those lines.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
And finally, Alexa Christian, do you think any of Hollywood's
elite will be taken down by information and testimonies during
the p Diddy trial?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Oh that's a tough one. There was such an interesting overlap.
But I'm so cynical now after the Epstein Files and
all the things we've been watching in the last few years,
I have to say, no, I don't think. I don't
think it's a no in that it didn't happen. I
think it's a no. And just the powerful people seem
to shield themselves. They just seem to get away with stuff.
(35:34):
So that's my cynical take. Well it's cynical, but it's right.
So you can't get too mad at you about it.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Christian, Thanks for all you do and thanks for the website,
Hollywood Intoto dot com. Like I said, it's my fiance
kelsey'ser go to, it's our favorite, and it can be
yours as well. Be sure to subscribe, download and listen
to his Hollywood and Toto podcast as well. Christian, have
a great weekend. Fun hanging out with you at the
ball game yesterday. Oh a great time.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Go Tiger's.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Sorry Rockies fans, that was a mass of I'd like
to report a murder.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
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