In real time, Ryan relays the muted Iranian response to President Trump's weekend strikes on three nuclear facilities within Iran (Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan). Trump absolutely does have the authority under the Constitution to authorize those attacks as commander-in-chief. We reveal the last time Congress actually authorized an official declaration of war on behalf of the United States - and it's only happened a handful of times in our nation's history.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But right now it looks like we've seen the interceptor
missiles fired up over Doha Cutter into the night sky,
and no evidence yet that any of those missiles have
landed on their targets.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, I mean it's crossing over Reuters as well right
now that the Cutter Air Defense has intercepted this missile
attack on the US military base there also crossing UAE
airspace is currently closed based on flight paths and air
traffic control audio that is coming in via flight radar.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
So a lot happening, A lot happening, Jennifer Griffin, you
heard first, and then Sandra Smith, both Fox News on
the very latest as we try to keep track of
it all in real time. Much has happened since last
I spoke with you on Friday. Obviously most of you
tuned into what is going on in the Middle East
and the American strikes on nuclear facilities in Iran. It
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was kind of a foregone conclusion that Iran would have
to do something to respond and save face not only
in the region but with the Iranian people themselves. But
this has the feel of kve fabe. That is a
term you'll hear me use that is from pro wrestling,
and that is basically the arena of theater in that
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they have to be performative. And we'll get to some
quotes along those lines from Middle East analysts, and we're
not talking about necessarily right wing analysts. These are two
Mark Polymerapolos from Saying that correct, Lee's Greek on MSNBC
and Ian Bremmer on CNN. But first we go to
Donald Trump's truth social feed. You know, may you live
(01:31):
in interesting times than we certainly do, and in the
modern era, you can keep track of what the president
is thinking, saying, and doing on social media on is
Truth social posts. So he responded within the last hour
with the following quote, The sites that we hit in
Iran were totally destroyed, and everyone knows it. Only the
fake news would say anything different in order to try
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and demean as much as possible, and even they say
they were quote pretty well destroyed unquote. Working especially on
this falsehood is Alison Cooper of fake News CNN, Dumb,
Brian L. Roberts, I think that's his official name now,
Chairman of Concast, Johnny Carl of ABC fake News and
always the losers of again Concasts, NBC fake News. It
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never ends with the sleeve bags in the media, and
that's why their ratings are at an all time low.
Zero credibility all caps, says DJT, and then this one
again in real time. This is within the last hour.
Iran has officially responded to our obliteration of their nuclear
facilities with a very weak response, which we expected and
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have very effectively countered. There have been fourteen missiles fired,
thirteen were knocked down, and one was set free. It
was like a bird, I added that part, but not
you know, you could believe it, continuing the Donald Trump
quote on true social quote, because it was headed in
a non threatening direction, so he set it free, let
it go. One of the fourteen missiles, the only one
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that was not knocked out. Continuing, I am pleased to
report that no Americans were harmed and hardly any damage
was done. Most importantly, they've gotten it all out of
their system in quotes, and there will hopefully be no
further hate. All in caps. I want to thank Iran
for giving us early notice, which made it possible for
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no lives to be lost and nobody to be injured.
Perhaps Iran can now proceed to peace and harmony in
the region. And I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do
the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Donald J. Trump, President of the United States of America,
and I don't think he was done, not quite yet,
(03:44):
Harry was fourteen minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I'd like to thank the highly respected Emir of Qatar
for all that he has done in seeking peace for
the region. Regarding the attack today at the American base
in Katar, I am pleased to report that, in addition
to no Americans being killed or wounded, very importantly, there
have also been no Kataris killed or wounded. Thank you
for your attention to this matter. Well, thank you, mister President.
A lot more important that your attention is devoted to
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this matter than any of us out here. But I'm
glad for the information. And then, finally, just six minutes ago,
on his true social feed, President Trump, congratulations world, it's
time for peace. I don't know that congratulations are quite
in order yet, mister President, but hey, I'm all on
board the last part there, and we'll see how the
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Iranians proceed from here. Here's the aforementioned mark Polymeropolis. I
hope I'm saying that right. I think that I am.
But even if I'm not, here's what he had to say.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
This makes a lot of sense. This is, of course,
very similar to when the Iranians in interview had to
retaliate after the US killed cost some Sola money. That
was several years ago, and there was an essence performative
strikes against the US base in Iraq, and I think
we're seeing the same thing right now. One note on
this is we saw about five hours ago, six hours
ago Sembassine Cutter had put out a in essence of
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warning to its staff basically saying shelter in place. That
then translates into a shelter in place notification for the
US community and Cutter. So to me, that meant that
we knew that some type of retaliation was coming. And
it makes some sense with the notion that the Iranians
probably tipped off the cutteries.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So why would Iran do that if they were truly
looking to retaliate, Because we didn't give advanced notice the
United States before our attacks on the nuclear facilities there
on the three in Iran, nor would we, nor should
we in the course of a military action in which
our airmen and women are pilots were going into harm's way.
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You're not going to try to open the door to
potential casualties. And this is where you saw some of
the members of Congress hemming and hying and kicking and
screaming and pouting and crossing their arms and hear from
mckem Jeffreys along those lines. But that in and of
itself too is performative because the president does have ultimate
authority as commander in chief of the armed Forces, to
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authorize military strikes as he or she sees fit within
the powers granted to him or her in the Constitution
and the executive branch. It is different than a declaration
of war. And we'll get into that historical perspective in
a moment. But again, ponder the thought is to why
would he run want to launch these strikes? Go hey,
(06:26):
just so you know Qatar and US that means you too,
these are coming. Just want to let you know and
give you advanced notice.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Why all of this, Chris, seems to be designed to
actually look for an off ramp where the Iranians can
say that they did something not enough. Certainly no US
casualties which would engender a US response. So perhaps this
is you know, in some ways, while we're talking about
military action, now, perhaps this is a way a path
forward to wind down any type of larger kind of
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conflagration between the US and Iran.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Short version, Iran ostensibly saves face with its own people
and in the region, you know, they kind of show
that they're tough, and they longed a couple of missiles
just again perfunctory basically in nature, and now this might
clear the deck for peace. That's what President Trump said
in his truth social posts. That's what Mark Paulymeroopolis says
there for MSNBC, Ian Bremer's CNN saying much the same here.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I think that of the three parties that are fighting here,
the United States, Israel, and Iran, Iran is by far
the least capable. They're very aware of that. They've lost
any deterrent capability, and therefore they have become the most
risk averse, and that's not what we're used to seeing
from the Islamic Republic historically. They've lost their proxies, they've
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lost the ability to scare the Israelis or the Americans
away from attacking them with impunity.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Iran has been decimated from a military standpoint, from a
nuclear stockpile standpoint, whatever program they were developing, and always
start with this part of the analysis. It's not being
done enough. I don't think on the interwebs or on
the mainstream media, Iran is sitting on some of the
richest oil reserves on the planet on the planet within
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their borders Iran. There's a big, different, big reason why
the rest of the world has had to deal with
Iran at all, going back to the nineteen seventy nine
revolution that overthrew the Shah and installed the Malas and
the Ayatola than Komani in power. We had to abide
Iran because they were part of this organization that would
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come to be called Opek and the oil exporterers, along
with the Saudi Arabia in the region, those are the
two biggest Iran and Saudi Arabia. Now, Saudi Arabia behaves
much more like an ally in many senses than Iran does,
but they are not a literal ally that we can
count on militarily, et cetera. It's an alliance of convenience
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in a lot of ways with a Saudi Arabian kingdom
that we disagree with fundamentally on a lot of different things.
In terms of how we live our lives, how we
treat women, how we execute criminals. This is something that
the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia we've seen in action
with Kashogi, the journalists that was allegedly beheaded by the
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regime there. So it's very much and we've talked about
this before. Enemy of my enemy is my friend type
territory when it comes to the Saudis. But the Iranians
never have they ever been anything closely remotely resembling an
ally of ours in any way, shape, manner, or form.
Bremer continues with this part of the analysis.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
The counter strikes that we've just seen from Iran, which
will be presented to their own people as incredibly strong
and strident in the same way that they've presented to
their own people that the American attacks on Fodeaux were marginal,
didn't cost much damage. That's what they're saying internally with
their control of their own state media.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It's all disinformation.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
What we know externally is that they warned the Americans
in advance and calibrated these attacks against the most well
defended American bases to help ensure there weren't going to
be casualties.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
And why not why not inflict maximum harm damage casualties
upon the United States, because that would come back to
them one hundredfold, and that might be a conservative estimate.
The Mullas the Ietola, they would all be taken out,
they would all be turned to dust, they would all
be sent to meet their seventy two virgins. And they
know it, and they know it. So what is the
intended outcome of this, What is the end game the
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goal of this. I think they may have achieved it
because the New York Post is just reporting and I'm
seeing this, watching this in real time as I'm talking
to you right now, that President Trump has no intention
of retaliating with another strike based on what Iran just did,
and Bremer kind of outlines what that was and what
Iran was doing.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
This is Iran trying very very hard to precipitate further
escalation from the United States. I'd be very surprised, and
I know this is early. If we were to see
any more from Iran against the United States in the
near term, the question, of course will be how does
Trump respond, question of course will be how the Israelis respond.
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But I think the Iranians are making very clear where
they are right now.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Well, Trump just basically called it out for what it
was posted on true social and he's ready to make
a deal. He's been ready to make a deal in
the interim with these strikes on the nuclear facilities. That
was just to send a message. The carrot and the stick.
He's tried the carrot. He's tried it repeatedly. He tried
it in his first term. He's trying it again now.
The United States has tried in many ways over many administrations, Reagan,
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Herbert Walker, Bush, Clinton, w Obama, Trump, Biden, all of
them to try to contain Iran, put them in a box,
or in the case of Obama and Biden outright send
them palettes of cash, or ease their funds, allow them
to develop nuclear energy for what purpose? Again, going back
to the point of they're sitting on the richest oil
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reserves on the planet, maybe the exception of Saudi Arabia,
Why would Iran go green? Riddle me that batman, Riddle
me that liberals, Riddle me that leftist? What motivation would
Iran have to go? You know what, we might live
on the richest oil reserves in the world, and it
might be the only thing that really gives us power
and dominion over the world stage and economy. But we
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are so conscious of the environment, and we want to
join in with the Gretit Bunnbergs of the world and
John Kerry and Bill Gates and everybody else. We want
to go left. We want to be extremely liberal on
this issue, and we want to save the planet. We
want to save the environment. So let us go nuclear
so we can wean ourselves off of You understand how
ridiculous that sounds. This is a terrorist regime that has
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been in power since nineteen seventy nine. It's sole derivation
of power coming from oil. And they're gonna go green.
They're gonna transform their economy to go nuclear, where they're
not even gonna rank in the top fifty. It makes
absolutely no logical sense. It makes none. Of course, they're
not gonna abandon oil. Of course they're not concerned about
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the environment. Hell, they're not concerned about the environment. For women,
women have to cover their faces in their heads, women
can't be seen in public without a man escorting them
or permission of their husbands to go out. You're telling
me those same people in power are very conscious of
the environment, and they want to lean into that. Come on,
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that doesn't make any sense. It never did, it never will,
it has and it won't. It's gonna Senator Bernie Sanders,
speaking of not making sense, he was uprolly and he
decided this was the time that he was gonna step
up against Donald Trump. It was unconstitutional. And I want
to tell you something.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Not only is this news that I've just heard the
second alarming that all of you have just heard, but
it is so grossly unconstitutional. All of you know is
that the only entity that can take this country.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
To war is the US Congress. The president does not
have the right. Bernie Sanders AOC also said this is
impeachable by I mean, it's so ridiculous. But they are
counting on their constituents, their followers, their supporters, their donors
being abjectly stupid, and in too many cases they're exactly right.
(14:36):
This is not an act of war. There is not
a declaration of war. Presidents for years and decades and
centuries have had the authority to authorize military strikes independent
of Congress. Representative of King Jeffries, who failed to answer
his phone, that's why he didn't know about these strikes
in advance. They tried to contact him and I went
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straight to voicemail. Look it up. Don't take my word
for it. That's what happened. And here's what he claimed
Trump did with these strikes in Iran.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Donald Trump and his actions, which do not appear to
be consistent with the United States Constitution, takes unilateral offensive
military action without seeking the approval of the United States Congress.
The use of military force which is offensive in nature
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must be approved by the House and the Senate. That's
according to the Constitution.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It's not optional.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
The framers of the Constitution actually gave Congress the power
to declare war for a reason, so the American people,
through their elected representatives, would have the opportunity to debate
the issue and make some decisions as it relates to
what's in the best interest and the national security of
the American people.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Sheer buffoonery, pure foolishness. Ask this question, who if you
have any liberal friends left, But they're going to act
like they're higher and mightier than you, And definitely they're smarter,
and they're just better. They're just better people than you,
and they know it. They know it. Posed to them.
This how many times in the history of the United States,
dating back to seventeen seventy six, almost two hundred fifty years.
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How many times, ever, has Congress formally authorized a declaration
of war. I'll pause for a moment. How many times
do you believe that you're doing the math in your head? Okay,
it's five? Five? Ever, here they are the War of
eighteen twelve against the United Kingdom on June seventeenth, eighteen twelve,
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the Mexican American War against Mexico May thirteenth, eighteen forty six,
the Spanish American War against Spain April twenty fifth, eighteen
ninety eight, World War one April sixth, nineteen seventeen declared
against Germany, and then later that year nineteen seventeen, in
December also against Austria and Hungary part of those Axis powers,
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and World War II formal declaration of war the day
after Pearl Harbor December eighth, nineteen forty one. Three days later,
after Germany and Italy declared war on us, we did
the same through an Act of Congress, and then later
This was the last. This was the last congressional act
as a declaration of war in our history. Almost exactly
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eighty three years ago, June four, nineteen forty two, we
declared war against the rest of the Axis powers Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania.
That's it, Ryan, There's a lot missing there. Oh yeah, right,
you're right. There was no formal declaration of war in Korea.
The Korean Conflict as it would be officially known nineteen
fifty to nineteen fifty three, not an official declaration of war.
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The Vietnam War not an official declaration of war. That
was the Vietnam conflict. Bosnia, My Serbs were bomb because
Sloba da Melosovich was evil. President Clinton authorized it. I
know that one happened. Hatchi, my man. He was there.
He was there and he participated in those bombings. He
was a part of that team in Kosovo. That was
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not a formal declaration of war. Not even the War
on Terror. That was not a formal declaration of war.
It was a conflict, Persian Gulf War before that too,
not a formal declaration of war against any one nation
or entity. Afghanistan, Sure, we unseated the government there. Ultimately
Hamid Karzai would come into power. The war in Iraq
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not officially declared a war. Military action by George W. Bush,
notwithstanding Obama droned how many different countries during his eight
years in office without congressional authorization, And what I will
say to remain intellectually honest here is yes, the commander
in chief, President Obama, much as I might have disagreed
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with him, had the constitutional authority as commander in chief
to authorize those drone strikes. He did. You can disagree
with it, but to call it unconstitutional grounds for impeachment
is intellectually dishonest or it's outright asinine. It could be both.
It could be both. With the likes of Jeffrey's AOC,
Bernie Sanders, et cetera, at least we got base Fetterman
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coming out and saying, look, the President did the right thing.
I support it. He's one of the few Democrats to
say so. But they're using this as a political opportunity.
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Speaker 7 (21:26):
I think it's the Deep Stay.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
I think it's Israel, the lobbyist from Israel. I think
it's the military industrial complex. He may think in some
way this helps the economy. This also, you know, it
may help his popularity rating. Frankly, it's unpopular to be
against the president who's at war.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
The founders knew this, and.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
That's why they didn't want the executive to have the
authority to declare war, because you know, the laurels go
to to the commander in chief.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
He's not wrong about that. Representative Thomas Massey, Republican Kentucky,
who has drawn the ire of the president. He knows
that and he's willing to wear that. And I do
admire Representative Massey for being a man of principle. This
is not some Johnny cum lately. He's not doing it
for political effect or theater. That's just who he is,
and his voters like him, support him. I saw some
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posts over the weekend, including from the President himself, saying, oh,
we're going to primary him. Well, easier said than done.
Kentucky's a very strange state. It's a red state. It's
very red state. But is it? It is? And it's not.
They just elected Andy Basheer, a Democrat, to a second
term in office as governor. You have two libertarian members
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of Congress, very prominent ones, and Senator Ran Paul and
Representative Thomas Massey. And they don't like spending money. They
don't like spending money at all, and I agree with
them in large part. And this big, beautiful bill, it's
not perfect. There are a lot of things wrong with it.
There are carve outs. This is what happens the porculus packages.
Massy's not wrong, and neither is Ran Paul. But if
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we're going to play this game of law of diminishing
returns where we're not going to carve out anything to
benefit our side when we're in power, well, then the
things that let's say state representatives run on in California,
New York, they want these salt exemptions for income taxes
at the state level and they weren't going to sign
out of the bill without it. And Thomas Massey made
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mention of this as to why they got their way. Well,
there are more of them too. If Thomas Massey is
just a man on an island shouting on a cloud,
he's not going to have enough bargaining power to get
anything done. But he did say if it came down
to him on the big beautiful bill, he would vote
against it that maybe that would start the conversation that
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he would like to have. All that to say, he
is against these strikes in Iran for the reasons that
he just stated. He's blaming the deep state, the lobbyist
of Israel, APEX in particular, the military industrial complex. He
thinks Trump believes that it'll make him more popular. He
is correct, though, a formal declaration of war if we
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were to go to war with Iran, then yeah, that
would have to go through the Congress. But I just
cited you the examples over the last century since World
War II. Since World War II, we have not had
a formal congressional declaration of war. Yes. Have we fought
in conflicts that you would consider to be wars? Yes.
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Do the veterans of foreign wars count Korea and Vietnam? Yes?
Do they count Desert Storm? Yes? And they should. The
War on Terror yes, the War in Iraq? Yes. None
of those had official congressional authorization. That's an important point
because this is the hill that the Democrats now have
chosen to die on that Donald Trump acted in some
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unconstitutional way and therefore was worthy of being impeached. Fools errand.
It's a fool's errand, and I think they know it.
But they just want to advance a narrative far enough
to where they can gin up their base, give them
some red meat, make it look like they're fighting against Trump,
raise some money, and refuel and refund their campaigns. It's
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not that difficult to follow here, and it doesn't take
you being cynical to realize that and call it for
what it is. This from Stephen Littleton, retired law enforcement officer,
the Iranian purveyors of terrorism got a long overdue come
upance for the death they have been sewing. It's true
and there have been many American service members that have
died because of Iran and their proxies. One of the
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first acts that the new regime, the Mullahs and the
Iatola took when assuming power after deposing the Shah of
Iran is take many American hostages for a period of
time that pretty much ensure the defeat of Jimmy Carter,
and then they release them just to Ronald Reagan was
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going to be inaugurated as president. That was not a coincidence.
Interesting text here, Ryan Katari's Atari's Well, there is an
analogy waiting to happen there. Yeah, It's like Iran is
playing Atari against Donald Trump with whatever the latest video
game system is in the newest technology. That would be
an apt comparison of Iran's position at this point in time. Now,
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am I uneasy about all of this? I am? I
mean anytime that you ratchet up military pressure, you execute
a mission like the United States just did, you create
kind of a maelstrom of potential attacks in return. I
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think Iran, just by their actions today, have demonstrated that
they understand. Let's say they were to activate a sleep
or cell in the United States. This was Senator Tom
Cotton's concern that he confirmed. When you talk.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
About reprisals, people think about sleeper celles here.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Do they have a right to be concerned?
Speaker 11 (27:06):
Good morning, Brian. Unfortunately, they do have a right to
be concerned. As you said, Joe Biden had a wide
open border policy for four years. We know that terrorists
tried to enter our country. Iran has a long history
of terrorizing America, going back forty six years to include
here in the United States.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
But if they were to do that Iran, it's like
they have the king left on the chessboard and maybe
a pawn or a rook or something, and they're just
dancing around. If you've ever played chess, you know in
this position that a lot of times an opponent will
just resign rather than keep moving around the board and
avoiding a pure checkmate. That's where Iran is now. They've
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been decimated militarily thanks to the strikes by Israel. They've
been decimated in their nuclear reserves thanks to the overwhelming
strikes by the United States, What do they have left?
What bargaining power do they have left? Don't their main
bargaining chip in all of this was, Hey, we could
continue to develop these centrifugures and nuclear arms, and only
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if we get X y Z will we stop doing that. Well,
that's off the board, that's been blown into the sky.
In fact, here's this hilarious observation by Barak Ravid, an
Israeli journalist. I want to give him benefit of the doubt,
but if without context, this is kind of a hilarious
take for you, What are the biggest unanswered questions that
you are looking for answers on I.
Speaker 12 (28:31):
Think, first and foremost, where is the enriched uranium? There
are four hundred kilograms of sixty percent and rich uranium,
very close to weapons grade primeuse. Sen Antonia was asked
about it today and he said that Israel has interesting
intelligence about where this material is. There's other material of
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twenty percent and rich uranium, also hundreds of kilograms. That's
I think the main challenge at the moment, because even
though the uranium program has suffered a huge blow, still
this material could be a basis for a new and
rehabilitated nuclear program, and the answer the question is where
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is it? And I don't think a lot of people know,
if any well.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
What raved is contending then is what the United States
did and their strikes over the weekend was eliminate Iran's
ability to further enrich more uranium. But there could be
some uranium that has already been enriched, let's say to
sixty percent or beyond that exists. It just it exists
and it's somewhere. But if the intel was as strong
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as Israel and Benjamina, who would have us believe, or
as Donald Trump believed, it could have been obliterated in
of itself in these caves within which the reserves are
being hidden. This was an option of last resort. Iran
was quite desperate at this point and trying to maintain
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whatever it had left, and perhaps they were not able
to do that. We don't know. There's a lot that
we don't know at this point in terms of how
effective the American strikes were because we got to get
verification in there. We're not going to take the Iranians
word for it. They're going to say that, oh, they
barely left to mark and we know that that's not
true based on aerial evidence. But whether or not it
got deep enough in these multiple strikes, these repeated strikes
(30:25):
on the various three nuclear sites, if they inflicted enough
damage to take out what was in reserve, well, then
that question that Barak Raviv just asked is moot. A
lot of moot questions asked by Margaret Brennan of Meet
the or what does it face the Nation on CBS
My mistake and Senator Marco Rubio sparring with her over
(30:47):
the week, and you knew this was coming, and we'll
get to that as well as Vice President j d Vance.
He was doing the Sunday shows as well. And your
thoughts at five seven, seven, three nine. Are you afraid
of a further entanglement with Iran? Or do you believe
President Trump and his comments as recently as today by
saying that's it, it's over, no more strikes, Let's make peace.
(31:08):
Are you confident that one that's what Donald Trump wants,
but two, more importantly, that that is what is possible,
that that is what can happen without further military involvement
by either the United States or continuously by Israel. Yeah,
short version, is I ran as yayatola. Are they committed
to fighting till the very last breath on this? They
(31:29):
could be, They may be. I don't know. That's why
I'm asking you five seven seven, three nine. We'll take
this time out wrapping up our number one of Ryan
shuling live after this.
Speaker 13 (31:42):
Are you saying there that the United States did not
see intelligence that the Supreme Leader had ordered weaponization.
Speaker 10 (31:51):
That's irrelevant. I think that question being asked in the media.
That's an irrelevant question me in.
Speaker 13 (31:56):
US intelligence assessment, you know it's not, yes, it was.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
I know that better than you know that, and I
know that that's.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Not the case.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
But whether the order was given, and the people will
say that it doesn't matter if the order was given.
They have everything they need to build nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
One of these people has seen the actual intelligence reports
that Margaret Brennan is asking about. And it's not Margaret
Brennan from Face the Nation, it's Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
President Trump did the absolute correct thing in this military
endeavor and exercise and mission. He kept his circle small
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so that the general millies of the world, so that
the mark warners of the world could not leak the
way that they are so prone to do. Word of
this attack did not leak, not once, not at all.
And there's a reason for that because President Trump knew
that the circle of trust that he has is extremely small.
(32:54):
So the principles in that room were Secretary of Defense
Pete Hegseth, Vice President JD. Vance, and Secretary of State
Marco Rubio. Once you let the cat out of the bag,
now you're doing it for different reasons than what is
what ultimate mission success. That is what happened over the weekend.
(33:15):
That is why there were no American casualties, not even close.
In fact, they were not even fired upon with our
stealth B two bombers that flew all the way from
Missouri Clearer across the Atlantic Ocean, through the Mediterranean Sea
into Iran's airspace and decimated three nuclear facilities. That was
only possible because there were no leaks. And that's the
(33:36):
way President Trump wanted it. You want a formal declaration
of war, don't be an idiot. That's not where this begins.
That's not what Donald Trump wants. He wants to send
a message. Here's the stick over, here's the carrot, and
let's make a deal. That's it. That's the endgame. That's
the goal. Donald Trump is very simple to understand, but
(33:57):
very difficult to accept. It appears for those that oppose
him on the left, or even a couple that are
on the right, that for whatever reason, they don't believe
in use of military force under any circumstances, including this one.
We'll get into more of this exchange between Margaret Brennan
and Marco Rubio coming up in hour number two. This text,
Margaret Brennan is so hot with her mouth closed, Shannon,
(34:19):
did you send that one? I claims he's not guilty.
He's not guilty of that one, But text her. I
don't know. She's a married woman. She does what she can.
I don't know. She pretends to be smart and informed
and she's not. And the thing that you're gonna notice,
and i'll preface this for next hour, is she starts
from this position of authority and knowledge and condescension in
(34:41):
a way talking to the Secretary of State about intelligence
reports that she's never seen. But she knows what's in them,
and does he? And what you know what they say?
And he's like, they don't say that. What are you
talking about? Oh my goodness, Shannon sent me this too.
And this is interesting. And I go back to President Obama,
who I will con as commander in chief twice elected
(35:02):
by the American people, had the authority to authorize strikes,
and he did a lot of them in the Middle East.
I don't have to agree with every one of them,
but he, as president, has that authority, including this one.
Channa just fed this into a GPT bot and this
is what it spit out. Anwar l Awallaki. You gotta
(35:23):
say it, like President Trump. An American Yemeni clerk accused
of being an operational leader of al Qaeda in the
Arabian Peninsula was intentionally targeted and killed in a US
drone strike in Yemen in twenty eleven. This was the
first time the US government publicly acknowledged the killing of
an American citizen as an enemy combatant without a trial
(35:44):
since the Civil War. And like Shannon and I were
talking to their break, it's not that I necessarily disagree
with the action. But if your premise is Barack Obama
did not have congressional approval, He did not declare war
on a l Awallaki. Did. The president of the United States,
regardless of his name or party affiliation, have the authority
(36:04):
to execute such an attack by using our military. The
answer is yes. The answer is yes. Now, if Donald
Trump wanted to go full scale war in Iran on Iran, yes,
he would need congressional approval, which is what FDR asked
for after Pearl Harbor was bombed back in nineteen forty one.
That's not what he's asking for here. That's not what
(36:25):
he's angling for here. That's not his objective here. We'll
take this time out. More of your thoughts at five
seven seven three nine Rubio versus Brennan. Who wins? You
get one guess.
But right now it looks like we've seen the interceptor
missiles fired up over Doha Cutter into the night sky,
and no evidence yet that any of those missiles have
landed on their targets.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, I mean it's crossing over Reuters as well right
now that the Cutter Air Defense has intercepted this missile
attack on the US military base there also crossing UAE
airspace is currently closed based on flight paths and air
traffic control audio that is coming in via flight radar.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
So a lot happening, A lot happening, Jennifer Griffin, you
heard first, and then Sandra Smith, both Fox News on
the very latest as we try to keep track of
it all in real time. Much has happened since last
I spoke with you on Friday. Obviously most of you
tuned into what is going on in the Middle East
and the American strikes on nuclear facilities in Iran. It
(00:49):
was kind of a foregone conclusion that Iran would have
to do something to respond and save face not only
in the region but with the Iranian people themselves. But
this has the feel of kve fabe. That is a
term you'll hear me use that is from pro wrestling,
and that is basically the arena of theater in that
(01:10):
they have to be performative. And we'll get to some
quotes along those lines from Middle East analysts, and we're
not talking about necessarily right wing analysts. These are two
Mark Polymerapolos from Saying that correct, Lee's Greek on MSNBC
and Ian Bremmer on CNN. But first we go to
Donald Trump's truth social feed. You know, may you live
(01:31):
in interesting times than we certainly do, and in the
modern era, you can keep track of what the president
is thinking, saying, and doing on social media on is
Truth social posts. So he responded within the last hour
with the following quote, The sites that we hit in
Iran were totally destroyed, and everyone knows it. Only the
fake news would say anything different in order to try
(01:53):
and demean as much as possible, and even they say
they were quote pretty well destroyed unquote. Working especially on
this falsehood is Alison Cooper of fake News CNN, Dumb,
Brian L. Roberts, I think that's his official name now,
Chairman of Concast, Johnny Carl of ABC fake News and
always the losers of again Concasts, NBC fake News. It
(02:19):
never ends with the sleeve bags in the media, and
that's why their ratings are at an all time low.
Zero credibility all caps, says DJT, and then this one
again in real time. This is within the last hour.
Iran has officially responded to our obliteration of their nuclear
facilities with a very weak response, which we expected and
(02:41):
have very effectively countered. There have been fourteen missiles fired,
thirteen were knocked down, and one was set free. It
was like a bird, I added that part, but not
you know, you could believe it, continuing the Donald Trump
quote on true social quote, because it was headed in
a non threatening direction, so he set it free, let
it go. One of the fourteen missiles, the only one
(03:01):
that was not knocked out. Continuing, I am pleased to
report that no Americans were harmed and hardly any damage
was done. Most importantly, they've gotten it all out of
their system in quotes, and there will hopefully be no
further hate. All in caps. I want to thank Iran
for giving us early notice, which made it possible for
(03:22):
no lives to be lost and nobody to be injured.
Perhaps Iran can now proceed to peace and harmony in
the region. And I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do
the same. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Donald J. Trump, President of the United States of America,
and I don't think he was done, not quite yet,
(03:44):
Harry was fourteen minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I'd like to thank the highly respected Emir of Qatar
for all that he has done in seeking peace for
the region. Regarding the attack today at the American base
in Katar, I am pleased to report that, in addition
to no Americans being killed or wounded, very importantly, there
have also been no Kataris killed or wounded. Thank you
for your attention to this matter. Well, thank you, mister President.
A lot more important that your attention is devoted to
(04:08):
this matter than any of us out here. But I'm
glad for the information. And then, finally, just six minutes ago,
on his true social feed, President Trump, congratulations world, it's
time for peace. I don't know that congratulations are quite
in order yet, mister President, but hey, I'm all on
board the last part there, and we'll see how the
(04:28):
Iranians proceed from here. Here's the aforementioned mark Polymeropolis. I
hope I'm saying that right. I think that I am.
But even if I'm not, here's what he had to say.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
This makes a lot of sense. This is, of course,
very similar to when the Iranians in interview had to
retaliate after the US killed cost some Sola money. That
was several years ago, and there was an essence performative
strikes against the US base in Iraq, and I think
we're seeing the same thing right now. One note on
this is we saw about five hours ago, six hours
ago Sembassine Cutter had put out a in essence of
(05:03):
warning to its staff basically saying shelter in place. That
then translates into a shelter in place notification for the
US community and Cutter. So to me, that meant that
we knew that some type of retaliation was coming. And
it makes some sense with the notion that the Iranians
probably tipped off the cutteries.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So why would Iran do that if they were truly
looking to retaliate, Because we didn't give advanced notice the
United States before our attacks on the nuclear facilities there
on the three in Iran, nor would we, nor should
we in the course of a military action in which
our airmen and women are pilots were going into harm's way.
(05:42):
You're not going to try to open the door to
potential casualties. And this is where you saw some of
the members of Congress hemming and hying and kicking and
screaming and pouting and crossing their arms and hear from
mckem Jeffreys along those lines. But that in and of
itself too is performative because the president does have ultimate
authority as commander in chief of the armed Forces, to
(06:05):
authorize military strikes as he or she sees fit within
the powers granted to him or her in the Constitution
and the executive branch. It is different than a declaration
of war. And we'll get into that historical perspective in
a moment. But again, ponder the thought is to why
would he run want to launch these strikes? Go hey,
(06:26):
just so you know Qatar and US that means you too,
these are coming. Just want to let you know and
give you advanced notice.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Why all of this, Chris, seems to be designed to
actually look for an off ramp where the Iranians can
say that they did something not enough. Certainly no US
casualties which would engender a US response. So perhaps this
is you know, in some ways, while we're talking about
military action, now, perhaps this is a way a path
forward to wind down any type of larger kind of
(06:55):
conflagration between the US and Iran.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Short version, Iran ostensibly saves face with its own people
and in the region, you know, they kind of show
that they're tough, and they longed a couple of missiles
just again perfunctory basically in nature, and now this might
clear the deck for peace. That's what President Trump said
in his truth social posts. That's what Mark Paulymeroopolis says
there for MSNBC, Ian Bremer's CNN saying much the same here.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
I think that of the three parties that are fighting here,
the United States, Israel, and Iran, Iran is by far
the least capable. They're very aware of that. They've lost
any deterrent capability, and therefore they have become the most
risk averse, and that's not what we're used to seeing
from the Islamic Republic historically. They've lost their proxies, they've
(07:45):
lost the ability to scare the Israelis or the Americans
away from attacking them with impunity.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Iran has been decimated from a military standpoint, from a
nuclear stockpile standpoint, whatever program they were developing, and always
start with this part of the analysis. It's not being
done enough. I don't think on the interwebs or on
the mainstream media, Iran is sitting on some of the
richest oil reserves on the planet on the planet within
(08:14):
their borders Iran. There's a big, different, big reason why
the rest of the world has had to deal with
Iran at all, going back to the nineteen seventy nine
revolution that overthrew the Shah and installed the Malas and
the Ayatola than Komani in power. We had to abide
Iran because they were part of this organization that would
(08:35):
come to be called Opek and the oil exporterers, along
with the Saudi Arabia in the region, those are the
two biggest Iran and Saudi Arabia. Now, Saudi Arabia behaves
much more like an ally in many senses than Iran does,
but they are not a literal ally that we can
count on militarily, et cetera. It's an alliance of convenience
(08:58):
in a lot of ways with a Saudi Arabian kingdom
that we disagree with fundamentally on a lot of different things.
In terms of how we live our lives, how we
treat women, how we execute criminals. This is something that
the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia we've seen in action
with Kashogi, the journalists that was allegedly beheaded by the
(09:19):
regime there. So it's very much and we've talked about
this before. Enemy of my enemy is my friend type
territory when it comes to the Saudis. But the Iranians
never have they ever been anything closely remotely resembling an
ally of ours in any way, shape, manner, or form.
Bremer continues with this part of the analysis.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
The counter strikes that we've just seen from Iran, which
will be presented to their own people as incredibly strong
and strident in the same way that they've presented to
their own people that the American attacks on Fodeaux were marginal,
didn't cost much damage. That's what they're saying internally with
their control of their own state media.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It's all disinformation.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
What we know externally is that they warned the Americans
in advance and calibrated these attacks against the most well
defended American bases to help ensure there weren't going to
be casualties.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
And why not why not inflict maximum harm damage casualties
upon the United States, because that would come back to
them one hundredfold, and that might be a conservative estimate.
The Mullas the Ietola, they would all be taken out,
they would all be turned to dust, they would all
be sent to meet their seventy two virgins. And they
know it, and they know it. So what is the
intended outcome of this, What is the end game the
(10:38):
goal of this. I think they may have achieved it
because the New York Post is just reporting and I'm
seeing this, watching this in real time as I'm talking
to you right now, that President Trump has no intention
of retaliating with another strike based on what Iran just did,
and Bremer kind of outlines what that was and what
Iran was doing.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
This is Iran trying very very hard to precipitate further
escalation from the United States. I'd be very surprised, and
I know this is early. If we were to see
any more from Iran against the United States in the
near term, the question, of course will be how does
Trump respond, question of course will be how the Israelis respond.
(11:20):
But I think the Iranians are making very clear where
they are right now.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Well, Trump just basically called it out for what it
was posted on true social and he's ready to make
a deal. He's been ready to make a deal in
the interim with these strikes on the nuclear facilities. That
was just to send a message. The carrot and the stick.
He's tried the carrot. He's tried it repeatedly. He tried
it in his first term. He's trying it again now.
The United States has tried in many ways over many administrations, Reagan,
(11:46):
Herbert Walker, Bush, Clinton, w Obama, Trump, Biden, all of
them to try to contain Iran, put them in a box,
or in the case of Obama and Biden outright send
them palettes of cash, or ease their funds, allow them
to develop nuclear energy for what purpose? Again, going back
to the point of they're sitting on the richest oil
(12:06):
reserves on the planet, maybe the exception of Saudi Arabia,
Why would Iran go green? Riddle me that batman, Riddle
me that liberals, Riddle me that leftist? What motivation would
Iran have to go? You know what, we might live
on the richest oil reserves in the world, and it
might be the only thing that really gives us power
and dominion over the world stage and economy. But we
(12:30):
are so conscious of the environment, and we want to
join in with the Gretit Bunnbergs of the world and
John Kerry and Bill Gates and everybody else. We want
to go left. We want to be extremely liberal on
this issue, and we want to save the planet. We
want to save the environment. So let us go nuclear
so we can wean ourselves off of You understand how
ridiculous that sounds. This is a terrorist regime that has
(12:54):
been in power since nineteen seventy nine. It's sole derivation
of power coming from oil. And they're gonna go green.
They're gonna transform their economy to go nuclear, where they're
not even gonna rank in the top fifty. It makes
absolutely no logical sense. It makes none. Of course, they're
not gonna abandon oil. Of course they're not concerned about
(13:15):
the environment. Hell, they're not concerned about the environment. For women,
women have to cover their faces in their heads, women
can't be seen in public without a man escorting them
or permission of their husbands to go out. You're telling
me those same people in power are very conscious of
the environment, and they want to lean into that. Come on,
(13:36):
that doesn't make any sense. It never did, it never will,
it has and it won't. It's gonna Senator Bernie Sanders,
speaking of not making sense, he was uprolly and he
decided this was the time that he was gonna step
up against Donald Trump. It was unconstitutional. And I want
to tell you something.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Not only is this news that I've just heard the
second alarming that all of you have just heard, but
it is so grossly unconstitutional. All of you know is
that the only entity that can take this country.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
To war is the US Congress. The president does not
have the right. Bernie Sanders AOC also said this is
impeachable by I mean, it's so ridiculous. But they are
counting on their constituents, their followers, their supporters, their donors
being abjectly stupid, and in too many cases they're exactly right.
(14:36):
This is not an act of war. There is not
a declaration of war. Presidents for years and decades and
centuries have had the authority to authorize military strikes independent
of Congress. Representative of King Jeffries, who failed to answer
his phone, that's why he didn't know about these strikes
in advance. They tried to contact him and I went
(14:57):
straight to voicemail. Look it up. Don't take my word
for it. That's what happened. And here's what he claimed
Trump did with these strikes in Iran.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Donald Trump and his actions, which do not appear to
be consistent with the United States Constitution, takes unilateral offensive
military action without seeking the approval of the United States Congress.
The use of military force which is offensive in nature
(15:27):
must be approved by the House and the Senate. That's
according to the Constitution.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It's not optional.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
The framers of the Constitution actually gave Congress the power
to declare war for a reason, so the American people,
through their elected representatives, would have the opportunity to debate
the issue and make some decisions as it relates to
what's in the best interest and the national security of
the American people.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Sheer buffoonery, pure foolishness. Ask this question, who if you
have any liberal friends left, But they're going to act
like they're higher and mightier than you, And definitely they're smarter,
and they're just better. They're just better people than you,
and they know it. They know it. Posed to them.
This how many times in the history of the United States,
dating back to seventeen seventy six, almost two hundred fifty years.
(16:19):
How many times, ever, has Congress formally authorized a declaration
of war. I'll pause for a moment. How many times
do you believe that you're doing the math in your head? Okay,
it's five? Five? Ever, here they are the War of
eighteen twelve against the United Kingdom on June seventeenth, eighteen twelve,
(16:41):
the Mexican American War against Mexico May thirteenth, eighteen forty six,
the Spanish American War against Spain April twenty fifth, eighteen
ninety eight, World War one April sixth, nineteen seventeen declared
against Germany, and then later that year nineteen seventeen, in
December also against Austria and Hungary part of those Axis powers,
(17:05):
and World War II formal declaration of war the day
after Pearl Harbor December eighth, nineteen forty one. Three days later,
after Germany and Italy declared war on us, we did
the same through an Act of Congress, and then later
This was the last. This was the last congressional act
as a declaration of war in our history. Almost exactly
(17:27):
eighty three years ago, June four, nineteen forty two, we
declared war against the rest of the Axis powers Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania.
That's it, Ryan, There's a lot missing there. Oh yeah, right,
you're right. There was no formal declaration of war in Korea.
The Korean Conflict as it would be officially known nineteen
fifty to nineteen fifty three, not an official declaration of war.
(17:51):
The Vietnam War not an official declaration of war. That
was the Vietnam conflict. Bosnia, My Serbs were bomb because
Sloba da Melosovich was evil. President Clinton authorized it. I
know that one happened. Hatchi, my man. He was there.
He was there and he participated in those bombings. He
was a part of that team in Kosovo. That was
(18:13):
not a formal declaration of war. Not even the War
on Terror. That was not a formal declaration of war.
It was a conflict, Persian Gulf War before that too,
not a formal declaration of war against any one nation
or entity. Afghanistan, Sure, we unseated the government there. Ultimately
Hamid Karzai would come into power. The war in Iraq
(18:36):
not officially declared a war. Military action by George W. Bush,
notwithstanding Obama droned how many different countries during his eight
years in office without congressional authorization, And what I will
say to remain intellectually honest here is yes, the commander
in chief, President Obama, much as I might have disagreed
(18:56):
with him, had the constitutional authority as commander in chief
to authorize those drone strikes. He did. You can disagree
with it, but to call it unconstitutional grounds for impeachment
is intellectually dishonest or it's outright asinine. It could be both.
It could be both. With the likes of Jeffrey's AOC,
Bernie Sanders, et cetera, at least we got base Fetterman
(19:18):
coming out and saying, look, the President did the right thing.
I support it. He's one of the few Democrats to
say so. But they're using this as a political opportunity.
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Speaker 7 (21:26):
I think it's the Deep Stay.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
I think it's Israel, the lobbyist from Israel. I think
it's the military industrial complex. He may think in some
way this helps the economy. This also, you know, it
may help his popularity rating. Frankly, it's unpopular to be
against the president who's at war.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
The founders knew this, and.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
That's why they didn't want the executive to have the
authority to declare war, because you know, the laurels go
to to the commander in chief.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
He's not wrong about that. Representative Thomas Massey, Republican Kentucky,
who has drawn the ire of the president. He knows
that and he's willing to wear that. And I do
admire Representative Massey for being a man of principle. This
is not some Johnny cum lately. He's not doing it
for political effect or theater. That's just who he is,
and his voters like him, support him. I saw some
(22:22):
posts over the weekend, including from the President himself, saying, oh,
we're going to primary him. Well, easier said than done.
Kentucky's a very strange state. It's a red state. It's
very red state. But is it? It is? And it's not.
They just elected Andy Basheer, a Democrat, to a second
term in office as governor. You have two libertarian members
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of Congress, very prominent ones, and Senator Ran Paul and
Representative Thomas Massey. And they don't like spending money. They
don't like spending money at all, and I agree with
them in large part. And this big, beautiful bill, it's
not perfect. There are a lot of things wrong with it.
There are carve outs. This is what happens the porculus packages.
Massy's not wrong, and neither is Ran Paul. But if
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we're going to play this game of law of diminishing
returns where we're not going to carve out anything to
benefit our side when we're in power, well, then the
things that let's say state representatives run on in California,
New York, they want these salt exemptions for income taxes
at the state level and they weren't going to sign
out of the bill without it. And Thomas Massey made
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mention of this as to why they got their way. Well,
there are more of them too. If Thomas Massey is
just a man on an island shouting on a cloud,
he's not going to have enough bargaining power to get
anything done. But he did say if it came down
to him on the big beautiful bill, he would vote
against it that maybe that would start the conversation that
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he would like to have. All that to say, he
is against these strikes in Iran for the reasons that
he just stated. He's blaming the deep state, the lobbyist
of Israel, APEX in particular, the military industrial complex. He
thinks Trump believes that it'll make him more popular. He
is correct, though, a formal declaration of war if we
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were to go to war with Iran, then yeah, that
would have to go through the Congress. But I just
cited you the examples over the last century since World
War II. Since World War II, we have not had
a formal congressional declaration of war. Yes. Have we fought
in conflicts that you would consider to be wars? Yes.
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Do the veterans of foreign wars count Korea and Vietnam? Yes?
Do they count Desert Storm? Yes? And they should. The
War on Terror yes, the War in Iraq? Yes. None
of those had official congressional authorization. That's an important point
because this is the hill that the Democrats now have
chosen to die on that Donald Trump acted in some
(24:56):
unconstitutional way and therefore was worthy of being impeached. Fools errand.
It's a fool's errand, and I think they know it.
But they just want to advance a narrative far enough
to where they can gin up their base, give them
some red meat, make it look like they're fighting against Trump,
raise some money, and refuel and refund their campaigns. It's
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not that difficult to follow here, and it doesn't take
you being cynical to realize that and call it for
what it is. This from Stephen Littleton, retired law enforcement officer,
the Iranian purveyors of terrorism got a long overdue come
upance for the death they have been sewing. It's true
and there have been many American service members that have
died because of Iran and their proxies. One of the
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first acts that the new regime, the Mullahs and the
Iatola took when assuming power after deposing the Shah of
Iran is take many American hostages for a period of
time that pretty much ensure the defeat of Jimmy Carter,
and then they release them just to Ronald Reagan was
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going to be inaugurated as president. That was not a coincidence.
Interesting text here, Ryan Katari's Atari's Well, there is an
analogy waiting to happen there. Yeah, It's like Iran is
playing Atari against Donald Trump with whatever the latest video
game system is in the newest technology. That would be
an apt comparison of Iran's position at this point in time. Now,
(26:26):
am I uneasy about all of this? I am? I
mean anytime that you ratchet up military pressure, you execute
a mission like the United States just did, you create
kind of a maelstrom of potential attacks in return. I
(26:47):
think Iran, just by their actions today, have demonstrated that
they understand. Let's say they were to activate a sleep
or cell in the United States. This was Senator Tom
Cotton's concern that he confirmed. When you talk.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
About reprisals, people think about sleeper celles here.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Do they have a right to be concerned?
Speaker 11 (27:06):
Good morning, Brian. Unfortunately, they do have a right to
be concerned. As you said, Joe Biden had a wide
open border policy for four years. We know that terrorists
tried to enter our country. Iran has a long history
of terrorizing America, going back forty six years to include
here in the United States.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
But if they were to do that Iran, it's like
they have the king left on the chessboard and maybe
a pawn or a rook or something, and they're just
dancing around. If you've ever played chess, you know in
this position that a lot of times an opponent will
just resign rather than keep moving around the board and
avoiding a pure checkmate. That's where Iran is now. They've
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been decimated militarily thanks to the strikes by Israel. They've
been decimated in their nuclear reserves thanks to the overwhelming
strikes by the United States, What do they have left?
What bargaining power do they have left? Don't their main
bargaining chip in all of this was, Hey, we could
continue to develop these centrifugures and nuclear arms, and only
(28:09):
if we get X y Z will we stop doing that. Well,
that's off the board, that's been blown into the sky.
In fact, here's this hilarious observation by Barak Ravid, an
Israeli journalist. I want to give him benefit of the doubt,
but if without context, this is kind of a hilarious
take for you, What are the biggest unanswered questions that
you are looking for answers on I.
Speaker 12 (28:31):
Think, first and foremost, where is the enriched uranium? There
are four hundred kilograms of sixty percent and rich uranium,
very close to weapons grade primeuse. Sen Antonia was asked
about it today and he said that Israel has interesting
intelligence about where this material is. There's other material of
(28:53):
twenty percent and rich uranium, also hundreds of kilograms. That's
I think the main challenge at the moment, because even
though the uranium program has suffered a huge blow, still
this material could be a basis for a new and
rehabilitated nuclear program, and the answer the question is where
(29:15):
is it? And I don't think a lot of people know,
if any well.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
What raved is contending then is what the United States
did and their strikes over the weekend was eliminate Iran's
ability to further enrich more uranium. But there could be
some uranium that has already been enriched, let's say to
sixty percent or beyond that exists. It just it exists
and it's somewhere. But if the intel was as strong
(29:41):
as Israel and Benjamina, who would have us believe, or
as Donald Trump believed, it could have been obliterated in
of itself in these caves within which the reserves are
being hidden. This was an option of last resort. Iran
was quite desperate at this point and trying to maintain
(30:01):
whatever it had left, and perhaps they were not able
to do that. We don't know. There's a lot that
we don't know at this point in terms of how
effective the American strikes were because we got to get
verification in there. We're not going to take the Iranians
word for it. They're going to say that, oh, they
barely left to mark and we know that that's not
true based on aerial evidence. But whether or not it
got deep enough in these multiple strikes, these repeated strikes
(30:25):
on the various three nuclear sites, if they inflicted enough
damage to take out what was in reserve, well, then
that question that Barak Raviv just asked is moot. A
lot of moot questions asked by Margaret Brennan of Meet
the or what does it face the Nation on CBS
My mistake and Senator Marco Rubio sparring with her over
(30:47):
the week, and you knew this was coming, and we'll
get to that as well as Vice President j d Vance.
He was doing the Sunday shows as well. And your
thoughts at five seven, seven, three nine. Are you afraid
of a further entanglement with Iran? Or do you believe
President Trump and his comments as recently as today by
saying that's it, it's over, no more strikes, Let's make peace.
(31:08):
Are you confident that one that's what Donald Trump wants,
but two, more importantly, that that is what is possible,
that that is what can happen without further military involvement
by either the United States or continuously by Israel. Yeah,
short version, is I ran as yayatola. Are they committed
to fighting till the very last breath on this? They
(31:29):
could be, They may be. I don't know. That's why
I'm asking you five seven seven, three nine. We'll take
this time out wrapping up our number one of Ryan
shuling live after this.
Speaker 13 (31:42):
Are you saying there that the United States did not
see intelligence that the Supreme Leader had ordered weaponization.
Speaker 10 (31:51):
That's irrelevant. I think that question being asked in the media.
That's an irrelevant question me in.
Speaker 13 (31:56):
US intelligence assessment, you know it's not, yes, it was.
Speaker 10 (32:01):
I know that better than you know that, and I
know that that's.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Not the case.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
But whether the order was given, and the people will
say that it doesn't matter if the order was given.
They have everything they need to build nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
One of these people has seen the actual intelligence reports
that Margaret Brennan is asking about. And it's not Margaret
Brennan from Face the Nation, it's Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
President Trump did the absolute correct thing in this military
endeavor and exercise and mission. He kept his circle small
(32:32):
so that the general millies of the world, so that
the mark warners of the world could not leak the
way that they are so prone to do. Word of
this attack did not leak, not once, not at all.
And there's a reason for that because President Trump knew
that the circle of trust that he has is extremely small.
(32:54):
So the principles in that room were Secretary of Defense
Pete Hegseth, Vice President JD. Vance, and Secretary of State
Marco Rubio. Once you let the cat out of the bag,
now you're doing it for different reasons than what is
what ultimate mission success. That is what happened over the weekend.
(33:15):
That is why there were no American casualties, not even close.
In fact, they were not even fired upon with our
stealth B two bombers that flew all the way from
Missouri Clearer across the Atlantic Ocean, through the Mediterranean Sea
into Iran's airspace and decimated three nuclear facilities. That was
only possible because there were no leaks. And that's the
(33:36):
way President Trump wanted it. You want a formal declaration
of war, don't be an idiot. That's not where this begins.
That's not what Donald Trump wants. He wants to send
a message. Here's the stick over, here's the carrot, and
let's make a deal. That's it. That's the endgame. That's
the goal. Donald Trump is very simple to understand, but
(33:57):
very difficult to accept. It appears for those that oppose
him on the left, or even a couple that are
on the right, that for whatever reason, they don't believe
in use of military force under any circumstances, including this one.
We'll get into more of this exchange between Margaret Brennan
and Marco Rubio coming up in hour number two. This text,
Margaret Brennan is so hot with her mouth closed, Shannon,
(34:19):
did you send that one? I claims he's not guilty.
He's not guilty of that one, But text her. I
don't know. She's a married woman. She does what she can.
I don't know. She pretends to be smart and informed
and she's not. And the thing that you're gonna notice,
and i'll preface this for next hour, is she starts
from this position of authority and knowledge and condescension in
(34:41):
a way talking to the Secretary of State about intelligence
reports that she's never seen. But she knows what's in them,
and does he? And what you know what they say?
And he's like, they don't say that. What are you
talking about? Oh my goodness, Shannon sent me this too.
And this is interesting. And I go back to President Obama,
who I will con as commander in chief twice elected
(35:02):
by the American people, had the authority to authorize strikes,
and he did a lot of them in the Middle East.
I don't have to agree with every one of them,
but he, as president, has that authority, including this one.
Channa just fed this into a GPT bot and this
is what it spit out. Anwar l Awallaki. You gotta
(35:23):
say it, like President Trump. An American Yemeni clerk accused
of being an operational leader of al Qaeda in the
Arabian Peninsula was intentionally targeted and killed in a US
drone strike in Yemen in twenty eleven. This was the
first time the US government publicly acknowledged the killing of
an American citizen as an enemy combatant without a trial
(35:44):
since the Civil War. And like Shannon and I were
talking to their break, it's not that I necessarily disagree
with the action. But if your premise is Barack Obama
did not have congressional approval, He did not declare war
on a l Awallaki. Did. The president of the United States,
regardless of his name or party affiliation, have the authority
(36:04):
to execute such an attack by using our military. The
answer is yes. The answer is yes. Now, if Donald
Trump wanted to go full scale war in Iran on Iran, yes,
he would need congressional approval, which is what FDR asked
for after Pearl Harbor was bombed back in nineteen forty one.
That's not what he's asking for here. That's not what
(36:25):
he's angling for here. That's not his objective here. We'll
take this time out. More of your thoughts at five
seven seven three nine Rubio versus Brennan. Who wins? You
get one guess.
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