Remembering Brian Wilson (1942-2025) and the outstanding 2014 biopic documenting his life and career, 'Love and Mercy' starring John Cusack, Elizabeth Banks, and Paul Dano. Deborah Flora and Christian Toto reflect on how much California has changed since the halcyonic hippie days of the 1960s when the Beach Boys dominated the airwaves with a California sound that defined that genre for a generation of music fans.
Our Friday Fool of the Week semifinalists, narrowed down to three from six by a vote from Deborah Christian, and Kelly: Governor Tim Walz (D-MN), Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-CA), Simone Biles, Eva Longoria, Sen. Alex Padilla (D-CA), and ABC 7 Los Angeles TV anchor Marc Brown.
Our Friday Fool of the Week semifinalists, narrowed down to three from six by a vote from Deborah Christian, and Kelly: Governor Tim Walz (D-MN), Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-CA), Simone Biles, Eva Longoria, Sen. Alex Padilla (D-CA), and ABC 7 Los Angeles TV anchor Marc Brown.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Friday in Denver, and that means it's time once
again for the Right Side of Hollywood with award winning
filmmaker Deborah Flora and Christian Toto of Hollywood. In Toto
on the intersection of pop culture, entertainment and politics in America.
Right here, I'm Ryan Schuling, Live, lazy and gentlemen, the beef.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
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Speaker 1 (00:44):
I gotta get it out.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You should be somewhats on your soul's good too.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
I found a way to get back to yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Of course, we lost Brian Wilson this week at the
age of eighty two. That from the film Love and Mercy,
John Cusack and Paul Dano in that movie, and I
forgot Elizabeth Banks also in that Coming out in twenty fourteen,
we turn our lonely ears for those of you out
there on this right side of Hollywood to Christian Toto
(01:34):
for his initial analysis of Love and Mercy, a film
coming out. God, I can't believe it's been ten years, Christian,
but your thoughts on it when it came out and
now with the retrospective on the loss of Brian Wilson.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
In very good film.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Obviously, Also the perspective was so interesting to focus on
two distinct chapters in his life, the sixties era which
we know so well, but then in the eighties when
he was really great rappling with his mental health, and
so I think that alone made it unique, but also
just he's a giant.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
In the field. He is legendary.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
He's one of those musicians who basically is worth every
bit of hype he's gotten over the decades. Obviously, he's
been in frail health in recent years, but his loss
is consequential.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And we still have the music.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's always an amazing thing to think about it, just
that the gift that someone like Brian Wilson has left behind.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
A follow up to that as well, because I look
at the year that this came out, twenty fourteen, I
remember going to watch in the theater because I was very
interested in watching the story about Brian Wilson and what
became of him and as a songwriter and his bouts
with depression and mental illness and the nervous breakdown that
he had, the creative breakthrough that he had with Pet Sounds,
(02:47):
and the genius that went into that album that inspired
Sergeant Pepper for the Beatles, the domineering father that he
had that was never really approving of his songwriting or
his choices. I get through all that, and I watched
John Cusack and I thought he was very good in it,
but Christian just to kind of put a fine point
on it. That was right before the advent of Donald
Trump in the political sphere, and John Cusack, in my view,
(03:09):
who was one of my all time favorite actors. He
is one of those that Donald Trump absolutely broke, and
Cusack went into the crazy sphere with being a Bernie
bro and I think anti Semitism is ripe with his
X feed, et cetera. What do you make of John
Cusack pre Trump versus post Trump and his performance in
this film?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah, you know, I don't like to bring in an
actor's politics directly when you compare it to his work,
but I think with this particular actor it's hard not
to because up until around twenty fourteen or so, he
was interesting. Yes, he did some paycheck movies. You can't
blame him for that some maybe more commercial blockbusters type vehicles,
(03:49):
but he also made more interesting films.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Of course. Listen, if you're a certain.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Agent, I'm counting myself in that group, you know, say
anything and better Dead and one crazy Summer.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I mean, I mean, he just exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I mean, he just had a great resume, and you
really he really was the everyman and I think that's
not to be downplayed. And in recent years, you know,
it's it's hard to escape his X feed. It's you know, listen,
you can have different opinions, you could disagree on many
different issues, but there's an anger and a ferocity that
(04:25):
that comes through. I mean it almost bleeds off your phoam.
And you read his feed, it's ugly. And his career
really has, you know, taken a turn for the worst.
You know, he does still work sporadically. Boy, if I were,
if I were sitting on the set with him, I
might I might just put on some headphones and try
to disengage. But it wasn't always been a good, good
actor and interesting guy. And you know, I think he
(04:46):
had I think he had good taste over the years
where he would pick these eclectic projects and kind of
throw himself into him. I never thought he was a
top tier talent, but he certainly he tried, he strived
for something better. But yeah, just to read his comments,
it's just it's just it's just pure venoment.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
That's what it is. And I think a little bit
like Rob Raner.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Who's a friend, if there's a clinical TDS situation, I
think he's suffering from it. You know, Rob Reiner's spectacular
directorial career has just crashed earth and has never recovered.
And he's making Spinal Tap two coming out later this year,
and I genuinely fear for that because I don't think
he can bring it anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Deborah Flora, your thoughts on John Cusack, the actor, the activist, politically,
what we've seen from him and his performance if you
did witness it, yes, I did in this movie Love
and Mercy.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Yeah, a couple of things. I completely agree with their actors.
We've talked about this before, who are more chameleons. They
literally become another character. John Cusack's problem is he pretty
much played himself the every man, as Christian said, But
when yourself becomes more hate filled and vitriolic, it shows
and performances and The very thing that made John Cusack
(05:56):
so likable before in his roles was there's always this
this kindness, this fun, this warmth to him. And I
think as he has embraced more of a real kind
of vitriolic extreme viewpoint, it permeates his acting and it's
not like he can become someone else. Another thing I'd
say about the movie that we're talking about, which was
Love It and Mercy, you know, about the life of
(06:19):
Brian Wilson, I thought was very interesting.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
That they cast two actors to play him.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
They cast Paul Dano when he was younger, who honestly,
I think did the very best performance in all of it.
He actually won some awards for it, and I thought
John coutisac was okay. One comment about Brian Wilson, though,
I'm so grateful to hear, you know, after his passing
on June eleventh, someone like Paul McCartney raving about his
musical talent because a lot of people that didn't really
(06:45):
pay attention would think of him just as the Beach Boys,
which was, you know, it was fun, it was iconic,
but he was so gifted as a musician's and Paul
McCartney said that The Beach Boys, under the writing talent
of Brian Wilson, kept pushing the Beatles to do better,
to be further, to go further after Pet Sounds in particular,
(07:07):
and Brian Wilson was actually the first pop musician that
was credited with writing, performing and arranging his own material.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
A real talent if you listen, I believe it's the
white album Back in the USSR, the album by the
Beatles that came out in nineteen sixty eight, the dual LP.
It's iconic in its own right, and it followed closely
after Sergeant Pepper, which the Beatles of acknowledged was largely
influenced by Pet Sounds, which had preceded it in nineteen
sixty six. But there's a certain part of the chorus
(07:36):
in Back of the USSR which was an obvious hat
tip to California Girls. The Ukraine Girls really knocked me out.
And I'll play that a little bit later in this hour,
But for both of you, it ties into pop culture,
and I think Adam Carolla did a very nice job
of threading this needle about what it meant the Beach Boys,
Brian Wilson himself, about California itself, as a symbol to
(08:01):
the rest of the country and the rest of the world.
He posted this photo of Brian Wilson on the beach
in nineteen sixty four. He's got a grill, He's got
some hot dogs on there. Looks like he's got some
ice cold Doctor Pepper's and he posts the following Christian
Brian Wilson on the beach. Boys represented California at its
zenis now California is at It's an idea. Look at
this picture of him on the beach in sixty four.
(08:22):
You'd be arrested in California for having a grill on
the beach today, But it's totally fine to torch away
moo out a gorilla.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
No one does it better than I'm crol these days.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You know, as funny as he is, he's been this
sort of soothsayer for our times, and we ignore him
at our own peril and what great arguments. And it
is iconic musically, but it does have a spirit, a
sense of freedom, and yeah, that's what he's touching on it.
It's so very true.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
It's so interesting what deb just said about when you've
got this sort of rage within you, it's hard to
be the every man to kind of lose yourself in
a care I have to think about Alec Baldwins perfore
miss of Donald Trump in recent years.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
There I never enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I think I think Alec Bodwin's a terrific actor and
a great He's got great comic chops too, But it
just seems so hateful and what a shame. I imagine
a younger John Cusack is probably far different than when
we have today.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And Deborah, just about California, Hollywood, you were there, You're
recovering Hollywood after as you said, you're.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
From Colorado, you gotta from Colorado.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Your husband Jonathan, of course, worked for Disney, and just
how far things have fallen. And I want to focus
on that aspect of anger, because when I think of
Hollywood like a hundred years ago, the dawn of the
Golden Age of Hollywood and what it represented, hope for
actors coming from all over the country, small towns in Iowa,
anywhere else, and they went out west to pursue and
(09:47):
chase their dreams. And you see, as Adam Carolla points out,
that California was once this panacea of sunshine in beaches
and hope and optimism and peace and love. Like Scott
McKenzie song San Francisco. If you're going to San Francisco,
be sure to wear some flowers in your hair. Now,
let's bring a pooper Scooper, because you have a perfect
(10:08):
to get around. May take us through your experience in
Hollywood in California, and it wasn't even that long ago,
and how much different it is now compared to what
even you were dealing with.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah, you know, when you think about California, why did
a group of people start Hollywood there? It is one
of the most naturally beautiful places on the planet. You've
got mountains, you've got beaches, you have just this wonderful
you know, natural just beauty. To repeat it, I don't
know how to say it. And it was thriving. It
is an absolute testament to how destructive progressive policies are
(10:43):
when they're taken to their furthest extent. Literally, we've gotten
to a point now where industry has been pouring out,
pouring into Texas. I remember when Rick Perry many years
ago said, why would a business leave Los Angeles or
California and go to San Antonio.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
It's not necessarily.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Because it's more beautiful, They are more desirable to be
there is because everything that made California this the golden
state where you could go and pursue your dream, you
could run your business.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
They've done it exactly opposite.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
And I went there by the way as one of
those people that was bright eyed and thinking, you know,
I love storytelling, I love acting.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
This is a great place to be.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
By the time we left, I'd seen under the curtain
of how really.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Opposite it was.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
The place that was supposed to be about free creativity
now had Dragconian controls over which ideology could be presented
in projects and which people had the right to express
their viewpoints. You know, so much of Hollywood is left
now when you add to that the fact that you know,
when we were there, we started hearing that seventy I
(11:48):
think it was like fifteen percent of people paid for
eighty five percent of everything.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
And they've left now.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
And then you look at Hollywood now and not only
was so much of Los Angeles destroy and a fire
because they can't even keep the fire hydrants full, now
is being destroyed downtown. I mean, it is a tragic tale.
Every term ideologically to governmentally, it has everything that should
(12:15):
still hold it up as a standard where people go
for dreams. But I've got to tell you, the progressive
policies and then the desire for one homogenistic view of
everything artistically otherwise has absolutely brought destruction to California. And
it brings me no joy to say that it is
a very sad thing to see.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
She's Deborah Flora Christian Total also alongside on the right
side of Hollywood, commemorating Brian Wilson and the California sound
of the Beach Boys that so represented the nineteen sixties
and the don the advent of modern pop music and
his passing at the age of eighty two this week,
and going back to the film Love and Mercy, I
would highly recommend it, and I agree with Deborah. I
(12:55):
think Paul Danos stole the show as the younger version
of Brian Wilson John Cusack play and when he gets
a bit older and always having dealt with severe depression, anxiety,
a nervous breakdown as they would call it back then,
but yet to rebound from that and to contribute his
talents in his songwriting. I mean, truly the definition of
a torture genius. And suffering from dementia later in his life.
(13:17):
But bringing it back the conversation Christian to the topic
of California. We know Adam Carolla has kind of been
the canary in the coal mine, but we're way past
the coal mine stage at this point. We've seen completely
mismanaged California wildfires by both LA Mayor Karen Bass, who
had booked a trip to Africa didn't call that off,
Governor Gavin News and completely inapt in handling that. And
(13:38):
now the same with the LA riots and the projection
that we're seeing and perhaps many in those in California
falling for it all over again, falling for the banana
and the tailpipe, to quote Beverly Hills cop. And they
just they can't square it in their minds that, hey,
maybe the Democrats we've elected are inept and incompetent. We
got to try something else, maybe go back to the
days of Pete Wilson as govnor Ronald Reagan as governor
(14:01):
in California. It wasn't always this brite of blue. But
they'll willingly go down this primrose path. Christian of somehow
blaming Donald Trump for the violent protests that are burning
cars throwing rocks at cops opposing ICE deportations under the
guise of protecting immigrants. And we've seen kind of the
(14:22):
fuzzy language there with Karen bass In not delineating between
legal immigrants and illegal aliens, and those are the people
that ICE is going after.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
You know, I think about one of the key issues
here is there are two institutions that should be holding
California and the politicians accountable. It's Hollywood and it's the media. Now,
if Hollywood told any of the stories that we're touching upon,
it really could open some eyes. And the dramatic possibilities
are literally endless. I don't know how you going to
(14:51):
capture the decades long decline, but I'm sure there are
creative ways to do just that, maybe a long like
a mini series, an actual series, maybe hopscotching over the years.
But the fact that the legacy media is completely unwilling
to hold him accountable, and the fact that Gavin Newsom
could have a a thought of being the president of
(15:12):
this country is such a condemnation on every journalist in
this country because he should be nowhere near the Banana
Stan that the Blue Sat and the rest of the
Development show let alone a glorious state, let alone the
United States of America.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The fact that he has a chance.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Of being our president is the most shocking thing you
could possibly imagine.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And yet here we are.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
And Christian, there's always money in the banana Stan Remember
I remember that reference the rest of the development. Now, Deborah,
one final quote I want to get to. In fact,
this is one of our nominees for Friday Fool the Week,
a little early because we have six of them.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Oh no, hard on me.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So I'm going to depend on you. Deborah Flora, Christian
Total and Kelly Cachera will each get one vote to
narrow us from six to three. But this bears a
mentioning during this segment about Hollywood, about the reaction of
those in their ivory towers judging at what's going on
in downtown Los Angeles, where there has been a curfew
from eight pm to six am, instituted by not Donald Trump,
(16:15):
not the National Guard, not the Marines, Karen Bass, the
mayor herself. But this is what Eva Longoria chose to
focus on.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Hi, everyone, I wanted to get on here and finally
compose myself to do a message because of everything that's
happening with the mass deportations. Every time I try to
record a message, I just start crying, and then I
don't want it to be about me and my emotions
about it. But it's just so inhumane, hard to watch.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
It's hard.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
It's hard to witness from AFAR. I can't imagine what
it's like to be in Los Angeles right now. I
can't believe it's happening in Austin, Texas. I can't believe
it's happening all over the country.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
The commons and.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
People's reactions to it is really so surprising to me
because it is an American we all kind of nobody
wants criminals in our country. Nobody wants reapis, nobody wants
drug dealers, nobody wants bad actors in our country.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
That's not what's happening.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Deborah Eva Longoria. No mention of the vandalism, the arson,
the rocks being thrown at police officers, cars being let
on fire, none of that.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Yeah, you know, this is stunning to me, and I
have to share this story because, by the way she says,
I'm not even there, She's not even in Los Angeles.
I have an associate who's a fairly successful screenwriter very
Left who posted on Monday on Facebook there are no
riots happening anywhere in Los Angeles. Of course, she lives
(17:40):
right next to Beverly Hills in Brentwood, so she wouldn't
be seeing it, and on her posts because I don't
let me do this, I said, well, is this statement
by the LPD not correct?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
She didn't comment.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
And then someone else I know who's a producer in
Hollywood said, because of the fires and Pacific palisades, she
had to relocate to downtown.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
And now she can't even walk outside.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
Because as these quote unquote poor immigrants, by the way,
most of them are actually doing criminal behavior and bad acting.
They're literally walking around with squirt bottles filled with gasoline
trying to light people and everything on fire.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
She can't even go out of her home.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
The sheer ignorance is about coupled with the hubris of
thinking that everybody has been waiting for even Lagoria to
make a statement about this, right, but they only can
say this because they are ill informed.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
And this really begs a question.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
If people can't even agree on the facts, like people
who have their head stuck in the sand, how do
we have a conversation of free society. But that's a
lot of what's happening in LA. Many people there are
not even paying attention. They're in denial.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Final word Christian total forty five seconds.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I didn't see Eva Lgoria's tears about lakeln Riley or
all the other victor you go of the illegal immigration wave.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I didn't see that.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I didn't see any comments about the ice agents and
and police officers under fire sometimes literally, people throwing bricks
at their heads. Nothing, nothing, nothing. These people are vapid,
they're dumb. They're in a bubble, and we should tune
them out aggressively because they don't They don't deserve our attention.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
They just don't.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
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Speaker 5 (20:49):
What is a woman?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
What is a woman is a question.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I'm I'm not sure I understand the question here all that,
what do you want me to say?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I want you to say that a woman like me.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Is an adult human female, that men can't become women.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
You guys are the party of violence, and you're the
party erasing women.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
You don't respect us.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You're a bigot, you're a misogynist, you're a sexist. Well
that was not Deborah Flora, but might as well.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
I thought I was using my outside voice.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I was represented Nancy bas I just kind of noticed
that she sounded a lot like Deborah Wood or might
Or But of course Governor Tim Walls leads us off
for Friday Fool of the Week nominees. He was asked,
what is a woman? This should be simple. Thirty years
ago it would have been. But Deborah, this is what
we have the left eyeing itself a notce. They can't
answer that question. They can, they won't.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Oh it is crazy, you know, Christian and I were
just trying during the break. It's almost as though we
are now speaking different languages in the United States of America.
For her to ask such a simple question, what is
a woman? In him to say, I don't understand the question.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
YEP, it is.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
I'm sorry, I ashually have to say unfortuately, I think
that Tim Walltz is it full for his entire lifetime,
not of the week.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
It is stunning to me.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
But honestly, I feel like keep giving people like that
a microphone because they have so tied themselves into a
knot of what they have to try and say to
be woke and to be whatever. I don't know what
their goal is. It's nonsensical. It's truly nonsensical Christian.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I love that he called himself a knucklehead. I think
he was being too kind.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
The one thing that I enjoyed about that clip the
most is, you know, I'm exhausted by people saying that
I am and my friends are racist, sexist, homies, all
all the all the awful things, and to have representative
Mace just dress him down accurately as being that kind
of a creep. I th like it's about time. It's
(22:54):
about time we just took the gloves off and said,
you know what, you're racing women? How dare you? How
dare you deny biology? He is I really think he's
created in a lab. I don't I can't imagine anyone
as ridiculous as absurd. I mean, even a Jim Gaffigan
impression doesn't even tap into the foolishness at the heart
and soul of Tim Walls.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
What an absolute joke.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
How do you really feel, Christian?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I just he is, you know, her obvious.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
All these politicians have their flaws, but he is like
an amalgam of everything that's wrong with the Democratic Party.
And the fact that he's arrogant and silly and thinks
thinks his bluster, doesn't think I'll put it that way,
is even more shocking.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
And the fact that he's a governor, was a vice
presidential candidate. That's the part I cannot fathom. A left
of center, right of center. You voted for this person.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
And she picked That's the best part. She picked him,
she did that, Seeks Volumes.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
There apparently is a spectrum though, when it comes to
the left and Democrats elected Democrats about a woman. Governor
Tim Walls doesn't know what a woman is, doesn't know,
doesn't understand the question, doesn't understand the diamond. What do
you want me to say? And then there's Representative Linda Sanchez,
Democrat California, who chooses to play the woman card against
Scott Bessen in this hearing.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
In fact, we've already seen that prices are rising on
many everyday goods.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
No, Congress, congresslan, please don't interrupt it.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Time is mine and time is mine. Please don't interrupt me.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
And I will ask you questions and I will grant
you an opportunity to answer them, but please don't interrupt
me during my time with clar Okay, I know I'm
a woman, but please try to limit.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Yourself to answer my questions.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
No, I'm sorry, but we get talked over all the
time and I and I don't want that to happen
at this.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Here, Deborah, I know you're a woman, and I know
what a woman is. What do you think of Representative
Sanchez here?
Speaker 6 (24:45):
I so wish I could have been in that room
and say, oh, point of order, can you define a woman?
We know you are one and you're using it when
it serves your purpose, but can you actually define it?
You just simply cannot have it both ways. And I
think it's crazy about this. Is this selective choice a victimhood?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
It is. I'm a victim when it.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Works, but when I have to then define something, I
won't define what a woman is. I mean, I think
about Katanji Brown Jackson, she's on the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Cannot define what a woman is.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
So one of the legal situations we have in our
country is making sure there isn't discrimination based on sex.
How do you even rule on these things or declare
you're a woman if you can't define it? Sorry, frustrating, frustrating?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well, Christen quick point.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
You know, I think we're looking at a vibe slash
cultural shift because when she played that card, it was ugly,
it was a necessary and it was cheap. Listen to
the reaction there. Yeah, the groan, the audible groans that
greeted her. I think if she pulled that five years ago,
there'd be cheers or there'd be applause or something like that.
You go, the fact, the fact that there were groans
(25:53):
really does say something.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yes, Indeed, this next one is only a post on
X that turned into a war, and Jennifer's actually appeared
on this program to comment further on it. Now, I
have TikTok users who are black women that how do
the kids put it? Clapped back at some owe biles.
But I'll just read the posts here that started the firestorm.
She goes after Riley Gaines out of nowhere, off the
top rope, saying, Riley Gaines, you're truly sick all of
(26:18):
this campaigning because you lost a race, straight up, sore loser.
You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding
a way to make sports inclusive or creating a new
avenue where trans feel safe in sports, maybe a transgender
category in all sports. But instead you bully them. One
thing's for sure is no one in sports is safe
(26:39):
with you around. And then she followed up, bully some
on your own size, which would ironically be a male
Riley Gaines. And right there, Deborah Simone Biles made our
point for US, men and women are different.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
She did, indeed, And what's interesting, she's false. First of all,
she's wrong. Riley Gains tied Leah Thomas in that race,
and they chose to give the trophy to Leah Thomas
because it was groundbreaking being a I think I started
using the word chromosomal mail. You can't argue with chromosomes.
But what I find interesting too is, you know Simone
(27:12):
Biles saying this when it's been proven over and over again.
I made this point on the air recently and somebody said, well,
Serena Williams could be the man. I'm like, no, Actually,
she lost, like the three hundredth or two hundredth ranked man.
The US women's soccer team lost to a high school
team I think of as in Dallas. It's like, it's
interesting to me. And what I don't know, what I
(27:33):
really don't know, is why Simone chose to do this,
whether it was a feeling of slipping out of the
spotlight or whatever it is, and is a bit of
a flip flop on some things that she said previously.
I just think it's a It was poor form and
unfortunate and ill informed and incorrect, all of.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
The above, Senior Toto another Vibe Shift moment, she backpedaled
slash Quasi apologized, yes again, would not have happened five
years ago, it happened this week. Unbelievable and also miss
you know, don't judge women and women's bodies, and listen,
Simone is a muscular, young, you know, female, and she
(28:12):
doesn't fit the mold of the traditional female, and there's
nothing wrong with that, but her insinuating that Riley Gaines,
who's a lovely human being, and It's very fit is
somehow manish was the icing on the bitter cake.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well, all due respect to Kelly cochera native California, but
four of our six semi finalists originate from California.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Yeah, I'm so proud.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
You should be you should be.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well, you mentioned Eva Longoria. That's another one. At least
she was commenting on things in California, though she confessed
she was not there herself trying to draw any kind
of tensional way from what is a winning issue from
Donald Trump. There was this sad display, it was Hollywood
worthy by Senator Alex Padilla yesterday and then just in
the nick of time press conference for him to comment
(29:01):
on what happened to him when he stormed a Christino
press conference without his Senate pen, not wearing it, not
as a member of the media, crashing it, demanding to
ask questions, and going right toward the podium. And this
is what the senator had to say for himself.
Speaker 10 (29:16):
I was almost immediately forcibly removed from the room. I
was forced to the ground. Oh, and I was handcuffed.
I was not arrested. Oh, I was not detained. Okay,
I will say this if this is how this administration
(29:37):
responds to a senator with a question. If this is
how that Apartment of Homeland Security responds to a senator
with a question, you can only imagine.
Speaker 11 (29:50):
What they're doing to farm workers, to cooks, two day
labors out in the Los Angeles community, throughout California and
throughout the country.
Speaker 10 (30:04):
We will hold this administration accountable.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Christian. The talking point come out of this was that
Senator Patillo's man handled. That's what Chuck Schumer and everybody
in the mainstream media we're talking about. Did this sleight
of hand work to distract people from what was really
going on in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I think we need to burn the Democratic Party to
the ground and start fresh. It's just it's cartoonish. They're
play acting, they're twisting reality, and they do it when
we have the video. That's the main between the media
and the Democrats. But I repeat myself the fact that
we can see things for ourselves on our small screens
or big screens wherever we're seeing them, and we could
see that he rushed the situation that he didn't announce.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Who he is.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I don't know who he is. I don't know anybody
knows who he is until for yesterday.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
The fact that he was able to do that and
then lie about it is just it's it's absolutely what
this party is about. It's what the left is about.
Right now, Where are the same our same center left friends,
where are they? Will you please stand up and cast
these people out? Because if you don't, I mean, either
the country collapses or your party collapses.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I don't know which comes from. I got John Fetterman,
but that's it, Deborah. This performance by Senator Padia oscar Worthy.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Uh no, no, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Yeah, and even the tears that were choking up in
his voice, you know, And this really is kind of Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
It's political theater. Christian.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
As you said, no one knew who he was until
this happened, and that's the reason he did it. And
by the way, when he's making his statement, you know,
watching what the FBI did and the Homeland Security and
the way they acted, I would have finished the sentence.
And what a great job they did. I feel so
much safer knowing they won't let someone storm me when
(31:43):
I'm speaking. It is they have to manufactureself, which, by
the way, also shows how little they actually have to
talk about. They're literally creating something to have something as
a divergent, which which is always to me that means
they don't really have anything to stand on.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Finally, this nominee, anchoring the news coverage of ABC seven
Los Angeles, Mark Brown with this absolute gem.
Speaker 12 (32:08):
It could turn very volatile if you move law enforcement
in there and the wrong way and turn what is
just a bunch of people having fun watching cars burn
into a massive confrontation and altercation between officers and demonstrators.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Christian, you take the boys to go watch cars burn
and have fun all the time, don't you.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I give them the matches.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I mean, of course.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Now listen, then this is the way you strike the match. Okay, okay,
you see that car, then don't do that one. I
don't think it's gonna burn as easily that one. That's
the sweet spot out a boy.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Like father, like son hashtag. That's satire.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Everyone knows, Mark Brown, Oh goodness, this is something families do.
We get down to the four h five. We just
have fun watching a bunch of.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Cars burn, you know.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
It is hilarious because it's so absurd, But on the
other side, it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
He talks about cars as that they're just inanimate objects.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Those cars most likely belong to the lower income people
who need it to make a living. Every time these lawless,
not peaceful riots and destruction happening, who do they damage
the most? Usually lower income inner city oftentimes minority people,
the very people they say they're standing up for. How
(33:29):
about this anchor instead interview the shop owner that I saw,
who's whose entire business was devastated, and he says, how
am I going to feed my family? The selective turning
of the victim spotlight to those who just wanted some
good old fun burning cars instead of the fact that
they're lawless. It's an upside down narrative and it's it's
(33:50):
shocking to me how they doubled down on it.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Does evil Imngloria have any tears for those people? I'm
curious that you say, though, don't exist in her reality.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Left cheek cheek, because that's where she is politically. But
those are the nominees. I'm gonna let Christian Deborah marinate
through the break along with Kelly. They'll each get a vote.
We're gonna narrow our semi finalist to three finalists, and
then you the listeners will vote on the winner of
our Friday Fool of the Week at five seven, seven,
three nine. So those semi finalists again, Governor Tim Walls,
Representative Linda Sanchez California, Simone Biles, Evil Hongoria, Senator Alex
(34:23):
Padilla with the k FAE Pro Wrestling Style Babe, and
Mark Brown Los Angeles TV anchor very difficult. They'll get
an entire break to think about it. Wrapping up this
edition of the Right Side of Hollywood after this, Ah yes,
back in the ussor the Beatles at the hat tip
to the Beach Boys, and the great Brian Wilson passing
(34:45):
away this week at the age of eighty two. We
started the Right Side of Hollywood with him, and he
is far from the Fool of the Week. But we
got too many nominees. Nils the Norwegian text and he says,
I vote for all the above. Nils. That's not gonna help.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
That was my technical opening pain.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
We've got to narrow this down with some votes. We're
going to operate this like the NFL draft and Deborah Flora.
You get the first, Oh.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Good, Okay, then I get to pre edge because I
think we were tied. Okay, I'm gonna you know, Tim
Walls could be it for a lifetime. Alex Padilla, it's
just political theater. Mark Brown, he gets my vote because
anybody that's on the air in Los Angeles for ABC
that says, oh, law enforcement would escalate just a bunch
of people having fun watching cars. Burn I mean the
(35:29):
fact that he actually said it, I just would want
to look at him say did you think before you spoke?
Speaker 5 (35:35):
And the fact, I mean, if.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
You're there to report, report on the people who are
being devastated, damaged and losing their livelihoods, losing the cars
that got them to work, It's it's even more disturbing
because I think he just said it calmly.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Yeah, and Isoa's very normal.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Well, he's an LA TV anchor, so I'm going to vote.
He's probably a Kendall. We'll go with that one. Toto
pick number two.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Okay, they're all winners. Let's just starts.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
These goals are all category. Secondly, I'm torn between Padilla
and Brown. I'm gonna go with the Padia because it's
more dangerous what he did. We already know that the
media is corrupt and broken beyond repair. So what Mark
Brown said is reprehensible. But having a senator who's really
stoking the fires right now, Oh, that is a different level.
And I know it's a dark level of foolishness. And
(36:21):
I know we have a lot of fun with the
fool of the week, but yeah, I feel like he
because the competition is so stiff, I've got to go.
I gotta find to go with the extra mile. And
I think that he does what he did between his
actions is framing it and the fact he's rallying around
his fellow fools.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
That's my pack.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Okay, A C seven television anchor, Mark Brown, Senator from California,
Alex Padilla, Kelly Kachira, you get the final word? Who
is our third finalist for our listeners to vote on.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
Well, you know they all rise to a level of dumbassin, right,
We really can't measure Okay, but as an ode to
my home state, I got to say Representative Linda sand.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Okay, an all California sweep. Not entirely surprising, but that'll
do it for the right side of Hollywood. My thanks
to Deborah Flora Christian Toto for joining us. Don't forget
Hollywood Intoto dot Com and the podcast you can hear it,
and those finalist nominees for you to vote on a
representative Linda Sanchez says she knows she's a woman, but
that doesn't give Scott Bessent the right to manxplain to her.
(37:22):
Senator Alex Padia and his theater in rushing the Christy
Nome press conference yesterday, and Mark Brown and Los Angeles saying,
you know what sending in law enforcement that may escalate
just a bunch of people having fun watching cars burn.
Our number two straight Ahead, our Fool of the Week
nominees are final sending your votes five seven, seven, three nine.
(37:43):
We will reveal the winner at the end of the
next hour on Ryan Schuling Live. As we wrap up
reminding you that our iHeartRadio Music Festival presented by Capitol
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It's Friday in Denver, and that means it's time once
again for the Right Side of Hollywood with award winning
filmmaker Deborah Flora and Christian Toto of Hollywood. In Toto
on the intersection of pop culture, entertainment and politics in America.
Right here, I'm Ryan Schuling, Live, lazy and gentlemen, the beef.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Round, Get around, around, around, I'm.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Going to make the greatest album ever made. God a cousin.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
You like tars It sounds new instruments always.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You can't just do whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Prom different inside me.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I gotta get it out.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You should be somewhats on your soul's good too.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
I found a way to get back to yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Of course, we lost Brian Wilson this week at the
age of eighty two. That from the film Love and Mercy,
John Cusack and Paul Dano in that movie, and I
forgot Elizabeth Banks also in that Coming out in twenty fourteen,
we turn our lonely ears for those of you out
there on this right side of Hollywood to Christian Toto
(01:34):
for his initial analysis of Love and Mercy, a film
coming out. God, I can't believe it's been ten years, Christian,
but your thoughts on it when it came out and
now with the retrospective on the loss of Brian Wilson.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
In very good film.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Obviously, Also the perspective was so interesting to focus on
two distinct chapters in his life, the sixties era which
we know so well, but then in the eighties when
he was really great rappling with his mental health, and
so I think that alone made it unique, but also
just he's a giant.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
In the field. He is legendary.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
He's one of those musicians who basically is worth every
bit of hype he's gotten over the decades. Obviously, he's
been in frail health in recent years, but his loss
is consequential.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And we still have the music.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's always an amazing thing to think about it, just
that the gift that someone like Brian Wilson has left behind.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
A follow up to that as well, because I look
at the year that this came out, twenty fourteen, I
remember going to watch in the theater because I was very
interested in watching the story about Brian Wilson and what
became of him and as a songwriter and his bouts
with depression and mental illness and the nervous breakdown that
he had, the creative breakthrough that he had with Pet Sounds,
(02:47):
and the genius that went into that album that inspired
Sergeant Pepper for the Beatles, the domineering father that he
had that was never really approving of his songwriting or
his choices. I get through all that, and I watched
John Cusack and I thought he was very good in it,
but Christian just to kind of put a fine point
on it. That was right before the advent of Donald
Trump in the political sphere, and John Cusack, in my view,
(03:09):
who was one of my all time favorite actors. He
is one of those that Donald Trump absolutely broke, and
Cusack went into the crazy sphere with being a Bernie
bro and I think anti Semitism is ripe with his
X feed, et cetera. What do you make of John
Cusack pre Trump versus post Trump and his performance in
this film?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah, you know, I don't like to bring in an
actor's politics directly when you compare it to his work,
but I think with this particular actor it's hard not
to because up until around twenty fourteen or so, he
was interesting. Yes, he did some paycheck movies. You can't
blame him for that some maybe more commercial blockbusters type vehicles,
(03:49):
but he also made more interesting films.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Of course. Listen, if you're a certain.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Agent, I'm counting myself in that group, you know, say
anything and better Dead and one crazy Summer.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I mean, I mean, he just exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I mean, he just had a great resume, and you
really he really was the everyman and I think that's
not to be downplayed. And in recent years, you know,
it's it's hard to escape his X feed. It's you know, listen,
you can have different opinions, you could disagree on many
different issues, but there's an anger and a ferocity that
(04:25):
that comes through. I mean it almost bleeds off your phoam.
And you read his feed, it's ugly. And his career
really has, you know, taken a turn for the worst.
You know, he does still work sporadically. Boy, if I were,
if I were sitting on the set with him, I
might I might just put on some headphones and try
to disengage. But it wasn't always been a good, good
actor and interesting guy. And you know, I think he
(04:46):
had I think he had good taste over the years
where he would pick these eclectic projects and kind of
throw himself into him. I never thought he was a
top tier talent, but he certainly he tried, he strived
for something better. But yeah, just to read his comments,
it's just it's just it's just pure venoment.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
That's what it is. And I think a little bit
like Rob Raner.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Who's a friend, if there's a clinical TDS situation, I
think he's suffering from it. You know, Rob Reiner's spectacular
directorial career has just crashed earth and has never recovered.
And he's making Spinal Tap two coming out later this year,
and I genuinely fear for that because I don't think
he can bring it anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Deborah Flora, your thoughts on John Cusack, the actor, the activist, politically,
what we've seen from him and his performance if you
did witness it, yes, I did in this movie Love
and Mercy.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Yeah, a couple of things. I completely agree with their actors.
We've talked about this before, who are more chameleons. They
literally become another character. John Cusack's problem is he pretty
much played himself the every man, as Christian said, But
when yourself becomes more hate filled and vitriolic, it shows
and performances and The very thing that made John Cusack
(05:56):
so likable before in his roles was there's always this
this kindness, this fun, this warmth to him. And I
think as he has embraced more of a real kind
of vitriolic extreme viewpoint, it permeates his acting and it's
not like he can become someone else. Another thing I'd
say about the movie that we're talking about, which was
Love It and Mercy, you know, about the life of
(06:19):
Brian Wilson, I thought was very interesting.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
That they cast two actors to play him.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
They cast Paul Dano when he was younger, who honestly,
I think did the very best performance in all of it.
He actually won some awards for it, and I thought
John coutisac was okay. One comment about Brian Wilson, though,
I'm so grateful to hear, you know, after his passing
on June eleventh, someone like Paul McCartney raving about his
musical talent because a lot of people that didn't really
(06:45):
pay attention would think of him just as the Beach Boys,
which was, you know, it was fun, it was iconic,
but he was so gifted as a musician's and Paul
McCartney said that The Beach Boys, under the writing talent
of Brian Wilson, kept pushing the Beatles to do better,
to be further, to go further after Pet Sounds in particular,
(07:07):
and Brian Wilson was actually the first pop musician that
was credited with writing, performing and arranging his own material.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
A real talent if you listen, I believe it's the
white album Back in the USSR, the album by the
Beatles that came out in nineteen sixty eight, the dual LP.
It's iconic in its own right, and it followed closely
after Sergeant Pepper, which the Beatles of acknowledged was largely
influenced by Pet Sounds, which had preceded it in nineteen
sixty six. But there's a certain part of the chorus
(07:36):
in Back of the USSR which was an obvious hat
tip to California Girls. The Ukraine Girls really knocked me out.
And I'll play that a little bit later in this hour,
But for both of you, it ties into pop culture,
and I think Adam Carolla did a very nice job
of threading this needle about what it meant the Beach Boys,
Brian Wilson himself, about California itself, as a symbol to
(08:01):
the rest of the country and the rest of the world.
He posted this photo of Brian Wilson on the beach
in nineteen sixty four. He's got a grill, He's got
some hot dogs on there. Looks like he's got some
ice cold Doctor Pepper's and he posts the following Christian
Brian Wilson on the beach. Boys represented California at its
zenis now California is at It's an idea. Look at
this picture of him on the beach in sixty four.
(08:22):
You'd be arrested in California for having a grill on
the beach today, But it's totally fine to torch away
moo out a gorilla.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
No one does it better than I'm crol these days.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You know, as funny as he is, he's been this
sort of soothsayer for our times, and we ignore him
at our own peril and what great arguments. And it
is iconic musically, but it does have a spirit, a
sense of freedom, and yeah, that's what he's touching on it.
It's so very true.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
It's so interesting what deb just said about when you've
got this sort of rage within you, it's hard to
be the every man to kind of lose yourself in
a care I have to think about Alec Baldwins perfore
miss of Donald Trump in recent years.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
There I never enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I think I think Alec Bodwin's a terrific actor and
a great He's got great comic chops too, But it
just seems so hateful and what a shame. I imagine
a younger John Cusack is probably far different than when
we have today.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
And Deborah, just about California, Hollywood, you were there, You're
recovering Hollywood after as you said, you're.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
From Colorado, you gotta from Colorado.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Your husband Jonathan, of course, worked for Disney, and just
how far things have fallen. And I want to focus
on that aspect of anger, because when I think of
Hollywood like a hundred years ago, the dawn of the
Golden Age of Hollywood and what it represented, hope for
actors coming from all over the country, small towns in Iowa,
anywhere else, and they went out west to pursue and
(09:47):
chase their dreams. And you see, as Adam Carolla points out,
that California was once this panacea of sunshine in beaches
and hope and optimism and peace and love. Like Scott
McKenzie song San Francisco. If you're going to San Francisco,
be sure to wear some flowers in your hair. Now,
let's bring a pooper Scooper, because you have a perfect
(10:08):
to get around. May take us through your experience in
Hollywood in California, and it wasn't even that long ago,
and how much different it is now compared to what
even you were dealing with.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Yeah, you know, when you think about California, why did
a group of people start Hollywood there? It is one
of the most naturally beautiful places on the planet. You've
got mountains, you've got beaches, you have just this wonderful
you know, natural just beauty. To repeat it, I don't
know how to say it. And it was thriving. It
is an absolute testament to how destructive progressive policies are
(10:43):
when they're taken to their furthest extent. Literally, we've gotten
to a point now where industry has been pouring out,
pouring into Texas. I remember when Rick Perry many years
ago said, why would a business leave Los Angeles or
California and go to San Antonio.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
It's not necessarily.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Because it's more beautiful, They are more desirable to be
there is because everything that made California this the golden
state where you could go and pursue your dream, you
could run your business.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
They've done it exactly opposite.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
And I went there by the way as one of
those people that was bright eyed and thinking, you know,
I love storytelling, I love acting.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
This is a great place to be.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
By the time we left, I'd seen under the curtain
of how really.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Opposite it was.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
The place that was supposed to be about free creativity
now had Dragconian controls over which ideology could be presented
in projects and which people had the right to express
their viewpoints. You know, so much of Hollywood is left
now when you add to that the fact that you know,
when we were there, we started hearing that seventy I
(11:48):
think it was like fifteen percent of people paid for
eighty five percent of everything.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
And they've left now.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
And then you look at Hollywood now and not only
was so much of Los Angeles destroy and a fire
because they can't even keep the fire hydrants full, now
is being destroyed downtown. I mean, it is a tragic tale.
Every term ideologically to governmentally, it has everything that should
(12:15):
still hold it up as a standard where people go
for dreams. But I've got to tell you, the progressive
policies and then the desire for one homogenistic view of
everything artistically otherwise has absolutely brought destruction to California. And
it brings me no joy to say that it is
a very sad thing to see.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
She's Deborah Flora Christian Total also alongside on the right
side of Hollywood, commemorating Brian Wilson and the California sound
of the Beach Boys that so represented the nineteen sixties
and the don the advent of modern pop music and
his passing at the age of eighty two this week,
and going back to the film Love and Mercy, I
would highly recommend it, and I agree with Deborah. I
(12:55):
think Paul Danos stole the show as the younger version
of Brian Wilson John Cusack play and when he gets
a bit older and always having dealt with severe depression, anxiety,
a nervous breakdown as they would call it back then,
but yet to rebound from that and to contribute his
talents in his songwriting. I mean, truly the definition of
a torture genius. And suffering from dementia later in his life.
(13:17):
But bringing it back the conversation Christian to the topic
of California. We know Adam Carolla has kind of been
the canary in the coal mine, but we're way past
the coal mine stage at this point. We've seen completely
mismanaged California wildfires by both LA Mayor Karen Bass, who
had booked a trip to Africa didn't call that off,
Governor Gavin News and completely inapt in handling that. And
(13:38):
now the same with the LA riots and the projection
that we're seeing and perhaps many in those in California
falling for it all over again, falling for the banana
and the tailpipe, to quote Beverly Hills cop. And they
just they can't square it in their minds that, hey,
maybe the Democrats we've elected are inept and incompetent. We
got to try something else, maybe go back to the
days of Pete Wilson as govnor Ronald Reagan as governor
(14:01):
in California. It wasn't always this brite of blue. But
they'll willingly go down this primrose path. Christian of somehow
blaming Donald Trump for the violent protests that are burning
cars throwing rocks at cops opposing ICE deportations under the
guise of protecting immigrants. And we've seen kind of the
(14:22):
fuzzy language there with Karen bass In not delineating between
legal immigrants and illegal aliens, and those are the people
that ICE is going after.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
You know, I think about one of the key issues
here is there are two institutions that should be holding
California and the politicians accountable. It's Hollywood and it's the media. Now,
if Hollywood told any of the stories that we're touching upon,
it really could open some eyes. And the dramatic possibilities
are literally endless. I don't know how you going to
(14:51):
capture the decades long decline, but I'm sure there are
creative ways to do just that, maybe a long like
a mini series, an actual series, maybe hopscotching over the years.
But the fact that the legacy media is completely unwilling
to hold him accountable, and the fact that Gavin Newsom
could have a a thought of being the president of
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this country is such a condemnation on every journalist in
this country because he should be nowhere near the Banana
Stan that the Blue Sat and the rest of the
Development show let alone a glorious state, let alone the
United States of America.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The fact that he has a chance.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Of being our president is the most shocking thing you
could possibly imagine.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And yet here we are.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
And Christian, there's always money in the banana Stan Remember
I remember that reference the rest of the development. Now, Deborah,
one final quote I want to get to. In fact,
this is one of our nominees for Friday Fool the Week,
a little early because we have six of them.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Oh no, hard on me.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So I'm going to depend on you. Deborah Flora, Christian
Total and Kelly Cachera will each get one vote to
narrow us from six to three. But this bears a
mentioning during this segment about Hollywood, about the reaction of
those in their ivory towers judging at what's going on
in downtown Los Angeles, where there has been a curfew
from eight pm to six am, instituted by not Donald Trump,
(16:15):
not the National Guard, not the Marines, Karen Bass, the
mayor herself. But this is what Eva Longoria chose to
focus on.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Hi, everyone, I wanted to get on here and finally
compose myself to do a message because of everything that's
happening with the mass deportations. Every time I try to
record a message, I just start crying, and then I
don't want it to be about me and my emotions
about it. But it's just so inhumane, hard to watch.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
It's hard.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
It's hard to witness from AFAR. I can't imagine what
it's like to be in Los Angeles right now. I
can't believe it's happening in Austin, Texas. I can't believe
it's happening all over the country.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
The commons and.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
People's reactions to it is really so surprising to me
because it is an American we all kind of nobody
wants criminals in our country. Nobody wants reapis, nobody wants
drug dealers, nobody wants bad actors in our country.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
That's not what's happening.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Deborah Eva Longoria. No mention of the vandalism, the arson,
the rocks being thrown at police officers, cars being let
on fire, none of that.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Yeah, you know, this is stunning to me, and I
have to share this story because, by the way she says,
I'm not even there, She's not even in Los Angeles.
I have an associate who's a fairly successful screenwriter very
Left who posted on Monday on Facebook there are no
riots happening anywhere in Los Angeles. Of course, she lives
(17:40):
right next to Beverly Hills in Brentwood, so she wouldn't
be seeing it, and on her posts because I don't
let me do this, I said, well, is this statement
by the LPD not correct?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
She didn't comment.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
And then someone else I know who's a producer in
Hollywood said, because of the fires and Pacific palisades, she
had to relocate to downtown.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
And now she can't even walk outside.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
Because as these quote unquote poor immigrants, by the way,
most of them are actually doing criminal behavior and bad acting.
They're literally walking around with squirt bottles filled with gasoline
trying to light people and everything on fire.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
She can't even go out of her home.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
The sheer ignorance is about coupled with the hubris of
thinking that everybody has been waiting for even Lagoria to
make a statement about this, right, but they only can
say this because they are ill informed.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
And this really begs a question.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
If people can't even agree on the facts, like people
who have their head stuck in the sand, how do
we have a conversation of free society. But that's a
lot of what's happening in LA. Many people there are
not even paying attention. They're in denial.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Final word Christian total forty five seconds.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I didn't see Eva Lgoria's tears about lakeln Riley or
all the other victor you go of the illegal immigration wave.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I didn't see that.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I didn't see any comments about the ice agents and
and police officers under fire sometimes literally, people throwing bricks
at their heads. Nothing, nothing, nothing. These people are vapid,
they're dumb. They're in a bubble, and we should tune
them out aggressively because they don't They don't deserve our attention.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
They just don't.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
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Speaker 5 (20:49):
What is a woman?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
What is a woman is a question.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I'm I'm not sure I understand the question here all that,
what do you want me to say?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I want you to say that a woman like me.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Is an adult human female, that men can't become women.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
You guys are the party of violence, and you're the
party erasing women.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
You don't respect us.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You're a bigot, you're a misogynist, you're a sexist. Well
that was not Deborah Flora, but might as well.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
I thought I was using my outside voice.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I was represented Nancy bas I just kind of noticed
that she sounded a lot like Deborah Wood or might
Or But of course Governor Tim Walls leads us off
for Friday Fool of the Week nominees. He was asked,
what is a woman? This should be simple. Thirty years
ago it would have been. But Deborah, this is what
we have the left eyeing itself a notce. They can't
answer that question. They can, they won't.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Oh it is crazy, you know, Christian and I were
just trying during the break. It's almost as though we
are now speaking different languages in the United States of America.
For her to ask such a simple question, what is
a woman? In him to say, I don't understand the question.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
YEP, it is.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
I'm sorry, I ashually have to say unfortuately, I think
that Tim Walltz is it full for his entire lifetime,
not of the week.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
It is stunning to me.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
But honestly, I feel like keep giving people like that
a microphone because they have so tied themselves into a
knot of what they have to try and say to
be woke and to be whatever. I don't know what
their goal is. It's nonsensical. It's truly nonsensical Christian.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I love that he called himself a knucklehead. I think
he was being too kind.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
The one thing that I enjoyed about that clip the
most is, you know, I'm exhausted by people saying that
I am and my friends are racist, sexist, homies, all
all the all the awful things, and to have representative
Mace just dress him down accurately as being that kind
of a creep. I th like it's about time. It's
(22:54):
about time we just took the gloves off and said,
you know what, you're racing women? How dare you? How
dare you deny biology? He is I really think he's
created in a lab. I don't I can't imagine anyone
as ridiculous as absurd. I mean, even a Jim Gaffigan
impression doesn't even tap into the foolishness at the heart
and soul of Tim Walls.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
What an absolute joke.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
How do you really feel, Christian?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I just he is, you know, her obvious.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
All these politicians have their flaws, but he is like
an amalgam of everything that's wrong with the Democratic Party.
And the fact that he's arrogant and silly and thinks
thinks his bluster, doesn't think I'll put it that way,
is even more shocking.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
And the fact that he's a governor, was a vice
presidential candidate. That's the part I cannot fathom. A left
of center, right of center. You voted for this person.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
And she picked That's the best part. She picked him,
she did that, Seeks Volumes.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
There apparently is a spectrum though, when it comes to
the left and Democrats elected Democrats about a woman. Governor
Tim Walls doesn't know what a woman is, doesn't know,
doesn't understand the question, doesn't understand the diamond. What do
you want me to say? And then there's Representative Linda Sanchez,
Democrat California, who chooses to play the woman card against
Scott Bessen in this hearing.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
In fact, we've already seen that prices are rising on
many everyday goods.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
No, Congress, congresslan, please don't interrupt it.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Time is mine and time is mine. Please don't interrupt me.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
And I will ask you questions and I will grant
you an opportunity to answer them, but please don't interrupt
me during my time with clar Okay, I know I'm
a woman, but please try to limit.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Yourself to answer my questions.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
No, I'm sorry, but we get talked over all the
time and I and I don't want that to happen
at this.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Here, Deborah, I know you're a woman, and I know
what a woman is. What do you think of Representative
Sanchez here?
Speaker 6 (24:45):
I so wish I could have been in that room
and say, oh, point of order, can you define a woman?
We know you are one and you're using it when
it serves your purpose, but can you actually define it?
You just simply cannot have it both ways. And I
think it's crazy about this. Is this selective choice a victimhood?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
It is. I'm a victim when it.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Works, but when I have to then define something, I
won't define what a woman is. I mean, I think
about Katanji Brown Jackson, she's on the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Cannot define what a woman is.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
So one of the legal situations we have in our
country is making sure there isn't discrimination based on sex.
How do you even rule on these things or declare
you're a woman if you can't define it? Sorry, frustrating, frustrating?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well, Christen quick point.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
You know, I think we're looking at a vibe slash
cultural shift because when she played that card, it was ugly,
it was a necessary and it was cheap. Listen to
the reaction there. Yeah, the groan, the audible groans that
greeted her. I think if she pulled that five years ago,
there'd be cheers or there'd be applause or something like that.
You go, the fact, the fact that there were groans
(25:53):
really does say something.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yes, Indeed, this next one is only a post on
X that turned into a war, and Jennifer's actually appeared
on this program to comment further on it. Now, I
have TikTok users who are black women that how do
the kids put it? Clapped back at some owe biles.
But I'll just read the posts here that started the firestorm.
She goes after Riley Gaines out of nowhere, off the
top rope, saying, Riley Gaines, you're truly sick all of
(26:18):
this campaigning because you lost a race, straight up, sore loser.
You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding
a way to make sports inclusive or creating a new
avenue where trans feel safe in sports, maybe a transgender
category in all sports. But instead you bully them. One
thing's for sure is no one in sports is safe
(26:39):
with you around. And then she followed up, bully some
on your own size, which would ironically be a male
Riley Gaines. And right there, Deborah Simone Biles made our
point for US, men and women are different.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
She did, indeed, And what's interesting, she's false. First of all,
she's wrong. Riley Gains tied Leah Thomas in that race,
and they chose to give the trophy to Leah Thomas
because it was groundbreaking being a I think I started
using the word chromosomal mail. You can't argue with chromosomes.
But what I find interesting too is, you know Simone
(27:12):
Biles saying this when it's been proven over and over again.
I made this point on the air recently and somebody said, well,
Serena Williams could be the man. I'm like, no, Actually,
she lost, like the three hundredth or two hundredth ranked man.
The US women's soccer team lost to a high school
team I think of as in Dallas. It's like, it's
interesting to me. And what I don't know, what I
(27:33):
really don't know, is why Simone chose to do this,
whether it was a feeling of slipping out of the
spotlight or whatever it is, and is a bit of
a flip flop on some things that she said previously.
I just think it's a It was poor form and
unfortunate and ill informed and incorrect, all of.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
The above, Senior Toto another Vibe Shift moment, she backpedaled
slash Quasi apologized, yes again, would not have happened five
years ago, it happened this week. Unbelievable and also miss
you know, don't judge women and women's bodies, and listen,
Simone is a muscular, young, you know, female, and she
(28:12):
doesn't fit the mold of the traditional female, and there's
nothing wrong with that, but her insinuating that Riley Gaines,
who's a lovely human being, and It's very fit is
somehow manish was the icing on the bitter cake.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well, all due respect to Kelly cochera native California, but
four of our six semi finalists originate from California.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Yeah, I'm so proud.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
You should be you should be.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well, you mentioned Eva Longoria. That's another one. At least
she was commenting on things in California, though she confessed
she was not there herself trying to draw any kind
of tensional way from what is a winning issue from
Donald Trump. There was this sad display, it was Hollywood
worthy by Senator Alex Padilla yesterday and then just in
the nick of time press conference for him to comment
(29:01):
on what happened to him when he stormed a Christino
press conference without his Senate pen, not wearing it, not
as a member of the media, crashing it, demanding to
ask questions, and going right toward the podium. And this
is what the senator had to say for himself.
Speaker 10 (29:16):
I was almost immediately forcibly removed from the room. I
was forced to the ground. Oh, and I was handcuffed.
I was not arrested. Oh, I was not detained. Okay,
I will say this if this is how this administration
(29:37):
responds to a senator with a question. If this is
how that Apartment of Homeland Security responds to a senator
with a question, you can only imagine.
Speaker 11 (29:50):
What they're doing to farm workers, to cooks, two day
labors out in the Los Angeles community, throughout California and
throughout the country.
Speaker 10 (30:04):
We will hold this administration accountable.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Christian. The talking point come out of this was that
Senator Patillo's man handled. That's what Chuck Schumer and everybody
in the mainstream media we're talking about. Did this sleight
of hand work to distract people from what was really
going on in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I think we need to burn the Democratic Party to
the ground and start fresh. It's just it's cartoonish. They're
play acting, they're twisting reality, and they do it when
we have the video. That's the main between the media
and the Democrats. But I repeat myself the fact that
we can see things for ourselves on our small screens
or big screens wherever we're seeing them, and we could
see that he rushed the situation that he didn't announce.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Who he is.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I don't know who he is. I don't know anybody
knows who he is until for yesterday.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
The fact that he was able to do that and
then lie about it is just it's it's absolutely what
this party is about. It's what the left is about.
Right now, Where are the same our same center left friends,
where are they? Will you please stand up and cast
these people out? Because if you don't, I mean, either
the country collapses or your party collapses.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I don't know which comes from. I got John Fetterman,
but that's it, Deborah. This performance by Senator Padia oscar Worthy.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Uh no, no, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Yeah, and even the tears that were choking up in
his voice, you know, And this really is kind of Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
It's political theater. Christian.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
As you said, no one knew who he was until
this happened, and that's the reason he did it. And
by the way, when he's making his statement, you know,
watching what the FBI did and the Homeland Security and
the way they acted, I would have finished the sentence.
And what a great job they did. I feel so
much safer knowing they won't let someone storm me when
(31:43):
I'm speaking. It is they have to manufactureself, which, by
the way, also shows how little they actually have to
talk about. They're literally creating something to have something as
a divergent, which which is always to me that means
they don't really have anything to stand on.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Finally, this nominee, anchoring the news coverage of ABC seven
Los Angeles, Mark Brown with this absolute gem.
Speaker 12 (32:08):
It could turn very volatile if you move law enforcement
in there and the wrong way and turn what is
just a bunch of people having fun watching cars burn
into a massive confrontation and altercation between officers and demonstrators.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Christian, you take the boys to go watch cars burn
and have fun all the time, don't you.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I give them the matches.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I mean, of course.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Now listen, then this is the way you strike the match. Okay, okay,
you see that car, then don't do that one. I
don't think it's gonna burn as easily that one. That's
the sweet spot out a boy.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Like father, like son hashtag. That's satire.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Everyone knows, Mark Brown, Oh goodness, this is something families do.
We get down to the four h five. We just
have fun watching a bunch of.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Cars burn, you know.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
It is hilarious because it's so absurd, But on the
other side, it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
He talks about cars as that they're just inanimate objects.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Those cars most likely belong to the lower income people
who need it to make a living. Every time these lawless,
not peaceful riots and destruction happening, who do they damage
the most? Usually lower income inner city oftentimes minority people,
the very people they say they're standing up for. How
(33:29):
about this anchor instead interview the shop owner that I saw,
who's whose entire business was devastated, and he says, how
am I going to feed my family? The selective turning
of the victim spotlight to those who just wanted some
good old fun burning cars instead of the fact that
they're lawless. It's an upside down narrative and it's it's
(33:50):
shocking to me how they doubled down on it.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Does evil Imngloria have any tears for those people? I'm
curious that you say, though, don't exist in her reality.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Left cheek cheek, because that's where she is politically. But
those are the nominees. I'm gonna let Christian Deborah marinate
through the break along with Kelly. They'll each get a vote.
We're gonna narrow our semi finalist to three finalists, and
then you the listeners will vote on the winner of
our Friday Fool of the Week at five seven, seven,
three nine. So those semi finalists again, Governor Tim Walls,
Representative Linda Sanchez California, Simone Biles, Evil Hongoria, Senator Alex
(34:23):
Padilla with the k FAE Pro Wrestling Style Babe, and
Mark Brown Los Angeles TV anchor very difficult. They'll get
an entire break to think about it. Wrapping up this
edition of the Right Side of Hollywood after this, Ah yes,
back in the ussor the Beatles at the hat tip
to the Beach Boys, and the great Brian Wilson passing
(34:45):
away this week at the age of eighty two. We
started the Right Side of Hollywood with him, and he
is far from the Fool of the Week. But we
got too many nominees. Nils the Norwegian text and he says,
I vote for all the above. Nils. That's not gonna help.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
That was my technical opening pain.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
We've got to narrow this down with some votes. We're
going to operate this like the NFL draft and Deborah Flora.
You get the first, Oh.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Good, Okay, then I get to pre edge because I
think we were tied. Okay, I'm gonna you know, Tim
Walls could be it for a lifetime. Alex Padilla, it's
just political theater. Mark Brown, he gets my vote because
anybody that's on the air in Los Angeles for ABC
that says, oh, law enforcement would escalate just a bunch
of people having fun watching cars. Burn I mean the
(35:29):
fact that he actually said it, I just would want
to look at him say did you think before you spoke?
Speaker 5 (35:35):
And the fact, I mean, if.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
You're there to report, report on the people who are
being devastated, damaged and losing their livelihoods, losing the cars
that got them to work, It's it's even more disturbing
because I think he just said it calmly.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Yeah, and Isoa's very normal.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Well, he's an LA TV anchor, so I'm going to vote.
He's probably a Kendall. We'll go with that one. Toto
pick number two.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Okay, they're all winners. Let's just starts.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
These goals are all category. Secondly, I'm torn between Padilla
and Brown. I'm gonna go with the Padia because it's
more dangerous what he did. We already know that the
media is corrupt and broken beyond repair. So what Mark
Brown said is reprehensible. But having a senator who's really
stoking the fires right now, Oh, that is a different level.
And I know it's a dark level of foolishness. And
(36:21):
I know we have a lot of fun with the
fool of the week, but yeah, I feel like he
because the competition is so stiff, I've got to go.
I gotta find to go with the extra mile. And
I think that he does what he did between his
actions is framing it and the fact he's rallying around
his fellow fools.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
That's my pack.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Okay, A C seven television anchor, Mark Brown, Senator from California,
Alex Padilla, Kelly Kachira, you get the final word? Who
is our third finalist for our listeners to vote on.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
Well, you know they all rise to a level of dumbassin, right,
We really can't measure Okay, but as an ode to
my home state, I got to say Representative Linda sand.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Okay, an all California sweep. Not entirely surprising, but that'll
do it for the right side of Hollywood. My thanks
to Deborah Flora Christian Toto for joining us. Don't forget
Hollywood Intoto dot Com and the podcast you can hear it,
and those finalist nominees for you to vote on a
representative Linda Sanchez says she knows she's a woman, but
that doesn't give Scott Bessent the right to manxplain to her.
(37:22):
Senator Alex Padia and his theater in rushing the Christy
Nome press conference yesterday, and Mark Brown and Los Angeles saying,
you know what sending in law enforcement that may escalate
just a bunch of people having fun watching cars burn.
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