February 24, 2025 • 35 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of Ryan Schuiling Live, Valdamar Archuleta joins Ryan to discuss his decision to step down as President of the Colorado chapter of the Log Cabin Republicans.
Valdamar announced his resignation at Saturday's annual meeting, where Ryan was also a featured speaker.
Then, Allison Browner, a private investigator and paralegal hired by JeffCo Kids First, joins Ryan with the scoop on a timeline established by the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office on the Columbine High School grooming scandal involving former social studies teacher Leann Kearney.
Valdamar announced his resignation at Saturday's annual meeting, where Ryan was also a featured speaker.
Then, Allison Browner, a private investigator and paralegal hired by JeffCo Kids First, joins Ryan with the scoop on a timeline established by the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office on the Columbine High School grooming scandal involving former social studies teacher Leann Kearney.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The NCAA has complied immediately.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
By the way, that's good, But I understand Maine is
the main here, the governor of Maine out here, are
you not going to comply with it?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'll complying with the state federal laws.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Well we are the federal law. Well you better do it.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You better do it because you're not going to get
any federal funding at all if you don't. And by
the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal, although
I did very well there, your population doesn't want men
playing in women's sports.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
So you better you better.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
See every state, and good, I'll see you. And could
I look forward to that.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That should be a really easy one. And enjoy your
life after governor, because I don't think you'll be an
elected politics.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Enjoy your life, have fun because you're not going to
be in politics. Just phenomenal. And why are reprised that
from last week? Welcome back to it. Monday edition of
Ryan Schooling Live is our very own governor had a
chance to address this ters exchange between President Trump and
the governor of Maine. Well, Jared Poulis had the initial
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stab and bite at the apple here on the microphone.
I'll let you judge for yourselves how he did. And
then he was followed by Republican Governor Oklahoma Kevin Stitt,
who said, I think what needed to be said, but
Polis seemed to be very reluctant and uncomfortable saying, so
this is a question that he fielded about, Hey, where
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do you come down on this confrontation between the governor
of Maine who wants to steadfastly allow biological males in
girls and women sports and spaces, and the President telling
her I'll.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
See you and court and will win.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
It's an easy case, I mean, And this is what
Governor Pulis had to say.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
As governors, we've our prior initiative that we continue our
work on is to disagree better. We always hope that
people can disagree in a way that elevates the discourse
and tries to come to a solution around around what
the issue is. I don't I don't think that that
disagree was necessarily a.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Model of that.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I don't think a lot of us went in really
even aware of what the conflict was about. But look,
if there's a conflict there, I encourage everybody to get
together and and work it out. Obviously, one way to
do that is through the courts if it comes to that,
but if there's other ways to understand where folks are
coming from, I would encourage everybody to do that.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Uh what do you think, Governor, should biological males participate
in female sports and be able to enter spaces like locker.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Rooms, bathrooms, changing rooms.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
He said a whole lot of nothing, and Stid starts
that way as well, but he finally gets to the
punchline at the end.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, I would just say, uh, it was it was
a little uncomfortable in the room. But like like Governor
Poulas said, what wasn't sure exactly what the backstory was.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Behind that conflict here.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Apparently there and some things that both sides have said.
It's probably good politics for both parties.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Maybe the governor was good politics for her for her constituents.
But you know, I think most Americans the big picture here,
I totally agree with the President. I did this back
in twenty two. I don't believe that most Americans think
that boys should play in girls sports.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Finally, yes, it's like an eighty twenty issue, but not
even Jared Polis with those kind of odds.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Girl, I don't know, ain't you.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
You had to disagree nicer and you know they got
to figure that out and be productive and well joining me. Now,
he's not one to a waffle or waiver. It's Valdimar Archiletta,
who I am sad to report is now the former
president of the Colorado log Cabin Republicans. I spoke at
their annual event on Saturday. I was honored to do so,
and he joins me live in studio vel. How you
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doing man, Well, thank you for having me on. It's
good to be here. Before we get into your business,
I want you to comment on what you just heard,
or rather perhaps what you didn't here from.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
They had not heard the government, government, governments. The governor
comments right there. I'm not surprised Polis is doing his thing,
you know he is. Polis is an expert politician, and
that he knows how to get other people to do
the dirty work for him so he can come across
as the nice guy. And so he was playing the
nice guy and Stitt. You know, Donald Trump is a
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one of a kind political figure. Only he can get
away with saying what he just said, and we love
him for that. Kevin Stitt has you know, he's he's
on a different level. He has to kind of play
the political game a little bit. So we had to,
you know, give the the preamble to his actual comment
to be to be a little nicer.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But I'm glad he got to it.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
I don't understand why either one of them said though
I don't know what was going on, they was very clear.
I feel like there was no confusion as to what
the argument was. So that was a little bit stupid
of him to say that I don't know what the
backstory is here.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It was very clear what the back the story was.
Neither one of.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Them hit it, so that was a little disappointing, but
I'm I'm glad he did get to the point at
the end that really is the point of.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
The whole issue.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
If I was a governor in any state, in either party,
I would want to know about what a governor in
another state was doing, if it was an open defiance
of a Trump presidential executive order or a Biden won
and where did they come down, what was the issue
and how would I I'm a governor of a state,
I would want to know so I'm agreeing completely with
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what you just said that either they're lying and maybe
polist and still they had no idea this was even
I shouldn't know this is going on, but the fact
that you know and I know, and I would think
most of our listeners know exactly what was happening there.
What the disagreement was that Maine had been defiant in
resisting the executive order to keep biological males out of
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female sports and spaces in defensive Title nine. If they
didn't know, to me, that's an indictment that Polics or
Stit would be in the dark on that. It's like,
in form yourself. You're the governor of a state. You
could know these things. It's part of the political game.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
It's always safe to just pretend I don't know everything
that's going on here, but it gives you an out
if later on something comes out and well you said this, like,
well I didn't know, I said, I didn't know, Like
I said, I think. I think Donald Trump is a
very unique figure. He is able to speak in the
way others cannot, and it's good. I'm glad he's able
to do it, and he's willing to do it because
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he's he's getting stuff done.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Yeah, and a lot of you agree five seven, seven,
three nine. If you want to send your text in
or if you have a question for Valdemar, and I've got
the first one out of the gate. What led you
to the decision that you made on Saturday, or at
least announced on Saturday, Devil, I'm anticipating you made the
decision before then.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
When did you know that you know? Yeah, I'm done here.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
It's a decision that I came to a while ago,
and I'm with conversations with our other officers as well.
In the previous multiple years, we have been doing a
lot of work in external outreach and that we were
talking to county gops, the state GOP, and reaching out
to different candidates and Republican leadership around the state and
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talking to them about LGBT issues, letting them know that
we know there are gay conservatives here this is what
we think, helping them with messaging, helping them with their
own statements and that when they make to the public,
and how to talk to the LGBT community, as well
as reaching out to leadership in LGBT community, the LGBT
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community and different organizations and showing them that we are
not all these lefties that activists portray us to be.
There are LGBT conservatives. We exist, We're here, this is
what we think, this is what we stand for. And
having those conversations with them, I'm overall I'm the Republicans
that accepted us much more openly than the a lot
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of LGBT organizations did.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
But you know that's all right.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
We still let everyone know we were there. But this
past year we kind of came to a point in
the organization where we realize, like most people know who
we are. Like we're at the point now where people
know who we are. It's time for us to start
focusing on internal outreach, in that we want to build
a community where various members of the LGBT community, conservatiative
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gays Republicans can have a place to hang out, to
associate to to grow a community there, because I really
do think that's important because when you build that, those
are going to be the people who become the movers
and shakers in the party, who are going to do more,
who we're going to start volunteering for stuff. Because even
with my own experience, the reason I got involved in
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politics was because I started going to Trump flag waves
and I had fun and I met other people who
thought like I did, and who I can go hang
out and talk without having to censor myself or being
afraid of what I say. Just go be myself, hang
out with these great people, have conversations, have fun. We'd
go out after words, and the next thing you knew,
I was the president of the Log Cabin Republicans of Colorado.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It happened very quick. I don't really even remember how
it happened, but it.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Was just time for that new chapter in the life
of the Log Cabin Republicans of Colorado. And I think
one good thing a good leader has to understand where
their strong points are and where they're not as strong.
And I'm kind of an introvert. A lot of people
don't believe at bit I'm kind of an introvert. I'm
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not the best at developing social stuff and nature. Yeah,
so our treasurer Matt Koontz, who is now the new president,
he is much better at that. And so I was
talking to him one day and I was just like,
you should be the president. You're better at this than
I am. And if this is our goal and this
is where we want to take this organization for the
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time being now, not that we're going.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
To stop external outreach. We're still going to work with
the party.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
We're still going to out reach out to these different
organizations and let them know, you know, there are conservative
Republican gays and our voice should be heard. He's just
going to be a better leader for the future.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And so it was.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
It was a good switch. And I'm not going away.
I'm right here. I'm still here with them, and I'm
still a member, and I'm going to be helping them
behind the scenes getting things done. There's some changes happening
at the national level that are going to affect us. Really,
it's not that big a deal. It's more like just
kind of like our website and that are the platforms
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we're using to build the infrastructure of the organization are changing.
So I'm helping with that transition. And so I'm very
happy and I look forward to what this is, what
the organization is going to become. Anyone out there who
is l gb ORT and you are conservative, you are
a Republican.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
You can be a libertarian, you can be independent.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Whatever, but if you align with us a lot in
thought and again, you know we're open to different nights.
Is doesn't have to be one hundred percent. We welcome
you to come hang out with us. We want to
do a lot more fun social stuff and just give
people a place to be themselves and everyone else is
welcome to join as well. You don't have to be
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We love our straight friends. I am a straight cisgender heterosa.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Here we go.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
However you identify yourself, I guess we're all like we're Honestly,
I actually found that with like members of the Republican
our log Cabin Republicans, not necessarily just in Colorado, but
across the nation. Some of the most hardcore right wing Republicans.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I know are gay.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Yes, they're so against all these terms and these identifying as.
They're so over that. Come hang out with us. You
will have a good time and it doesn't matter what
your orient orientation. Ask Yeah, we don't ask you to
tell us that when you show up. We don't wear
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badges that say he is or whatever. Thank god, we
don't do that. So just come hang out with us.
We want we want to really build this community, not
just again for the LGBTs, but for everyone. Yeah, so
that you know, we have like especially next year in
twenty six there's it's going to be a big year
in politics here in the state, raw the governor's election, senator.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
All that good stuff.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
We need to have a crew of people who are
ready to go out there and work, and that's going
to start this year by building the community. Because those
people who we start building that with now, they're going
to be our volunteers next year.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
So log cabin Coolorado dot org is where you can
find out more. You can follow my guests Valdima arch
Aletta at Archa Letta number four, coeo on X formerly
known as Twitter. Real quick question here, how long were
you the president for? What was your tenure? Your time
in that position? Vel and how long do those usually
go for a president?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
President?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
For about five years? It's typically we do two year.
Your your run is two years. So every even year
we have our elections for officers and they go for
two years. So I made it halfway through this one,
and I was actually originally thinking about just ending going
through this term and then just not running again next year.
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But like I said, I felt that this continuation to
to new leadership needed to happen now and not next year.
So I step down a little early, but yeah, every
two years about. We also have a new secretary, so
we got some new leadership in there, and it's.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Good we have we have some young people.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
We need more young people in the party in general,
and so it it is really good that we have
a lot of young people in the Log Cabin Republicans
right now because we need this next generation of millennials
and Gen Zers too to be taking you know, their
their role and still up and up.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I wanted to get your take on where it goes
from here, not just for the Log Cabin Republicans, but
for the Republican Party writ large. And you had Darcy
Shaning come in and I gave her credit. She showed up,
she was there for this meeting. I think that's big,
and she was asking for your guys' support and she
is seeking to be the Colorado Republican Party chair and
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she'll be on this program coming up in our next hour.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
But you asked a very pertinent question.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I thought about, you know, the big hubbub, the firestorm
about the email that was sent from the Colorado Republican
Party and if anybody ever owned up to authorship of that.
We know that Dave Williams commented on it didn't rebuke,
it didn't refute it. And you asked her about how
that was handled. How did you feel? She answered that,
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and do we have an answer really too, that's why
it happened and if it'll ever happen again something like that.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I think I think your answer was good.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
She you know, she didn't acknowledge that it wasn't the
greatest email that went out and stated she would have
handled the situation differently. I like her idea of not
just having a chair who says something and puts it
out without anyone reviewing it, especially something like that. Here's
one thing we have reached out to different counties and
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also our state GP is to let them know that
we're here to help them with messaging like that. And
that was one thing that actually disappointed me last year.
It's like, we're right here. Yeah, you could have sent
us that letter. We could have because the actual issues
brought up in that email I agree with all our
members agree with, like we were just talking about, with
what Trump said right there, boys and girls sports, putting
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children through gender affirming care.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
We are against those things.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Those things should not happen, and that is kind of
what the email was about.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
But rather than talking about.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Those issues, he started off by just attacking the entire
community as a whole. If you would have just taken
that out and went to the issue, well and you like,
I've had a conversation about something we should be talking
about and actually care about.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
That was my whole point, as you probably caught onto
with the address I gave at the annual meeting there
on Saturday, was there's a way that we can all
pull in the same direction, all be on the same page.
There's the way Dave Williams or the Colorado Republican Party
could have approached you the low camera public. Hey, we
want to put out a message. We know that you
know there's some nuance here. There are lesbians, gays, buys,
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trans that are conservative, Like you were saying earlier, how
can we put out a productive message that'll bring people in,
that will communicate what we want to say. But that
never happened, and then you're blindsided by this and you're
forced to have to react to others on this show
or to sit down with Kyle Clark, and it puts
you in a very awkward, uncomfortable But I made my.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Little video at like three o'clock.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
I remember it looked like a big mess, and that
because I didn't think anyone would actually care what I said.
And then the next thing, you know, millions of people
watch that stupid video, butllions. Literally My thought is, you know,
whoever becomes the chair, I'm throwing this out to the
world right now, let me write the letter in June.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Whoever it is, whether it's Brita, whether it's Darcy or
someone we don't even know is gonna run yet.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
Like, whoever it is, I will write the letter for you,
and I will state the issues, but I'll do it
in a way that it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Won't make people hate Republicans.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
I think that we hate the gay community because there
is because, like you were mentioning earlier, this is a
winning issue the majority of people, even within the LGBT community.
I was down at Colorado Springs Pride, I think, once,
and someone came up. He was very argumentative, and I
finally just point blank asked him how old should somebody
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be to get a sex change operation? And he said eighteen?
And I was like, that's all we're saying. I agree
with you. Republicans agree with you. Yes, So even within
in that community they agree, and I know multiple trans
women who I've talked to the past year, even trans
men who agree with this as well. They don't like
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the way they're being represented by LGBT activists, by the politicians.
It misrepresents them and what they believe. So if the
Republicans would just stand up, have a normal voice and
say things without offending people, we could win them over,
build the base, and who knows what we can accomplish.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Find out more log Cabincolorado dot org. Vladimar Archuletta, the
outgoing president of that organization. Before we let you go here, Val,
I just want to compliment and commend you on the
work that you've done in that leadership role. You've brought prominence,
name recognition to the log Cabin Republicans. You've worked tirelessly,
you ran your own campaign for Congress against Diana de
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get and just a remarkable job bringing people into the
fold that might not otherwise have heard of the log
Cabin Republicans.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
So congratulations to you, thank you, and I'm not going
away now. You guys are going to still hear about
me from time work time with yes, whether you like
it or not.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You're going to hear my name again.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Follow him at Archiletta number four COEO and again you
can follow the log Cabin Republicans on exit COO Log
Cabin Bell Great stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Thanks for your time. We'll talk a mind soon.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
All right, time out, We're back with much more after
this on Ryan Schuling Life.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
I just want to highlight the need to train children,
and I want to broaden a little bit more because
my experience as a causa is not.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Just sexual abuse. In fact, most of his other kind
of abuse.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
And I'll just remember one of my little Emma who
whose parents mistreated her so bad that she ended up
in children's hospital with oregon failure and some of the
therapies she got early on. She said to me one day,
she said, you know, my mom didn't treat me right.
She shouldn't have done that, and she didn't know that.
I mean, she was starved, essentially. And so I would
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want our training for children to be broader than just
don't touch these body parts or don't or you hear
the proper terms, but what's appropriate even for parents.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
It's not about the parents.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
This issue not right now now what we're talking about
with what happened in Columbine High School. It's not about
teaching the kids better, it's about the people in jeff Co.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
School's own employee.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
And this whole deflect, distract obfus skate by Mary Parker,
president of the Jeffco School Board, isn't going to cut it.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
The jeff Co parents know better.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
And the audacity of Mary to prop up this story
about a little girl who was abused by her parents
to somehow kind of muddy the waters about what's going
on in the jeff Co public schools, this epidemic of abuse,
of grooming, sexual abuse. There's another story cropping up. Just
today I was texted about by Lindsay Datko from jeff
coke Kids First and she'll be appearing either with me
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or with Dan over the next couple of days. And
this text from Alexa. I just read the New York
Post story on the Columbine groomer. I must have missed
the principal's apology. Seriously, what the age Because of him
and other staff neglecting their obligations, A teenager was groomed
and likely is in an abusive relationship great point its
present day even worse, This probably sets her up for
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failure in future relationships and probably means she will not
reconcile with her family. I hope the family sues what
amount will cover such horrific and avoidable damages. All these
common sense rules have been thrown out with the alphabet
groups and gender reassignment. You want an ask for him,
we need a form signed by your doctor and parents.
You want puberty blockers, We won't tell your parents. You
want a tattoo before eighteen, though not with all your parents.
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You want to chop off body parts, your parents have
no say insanity. My heart breaks for the family. Alexa,
You're not alone. In fact, we're very privileged to be
joined in studio now by Alison Browner. Now Alison is
a parent in the Jeffco Public schools.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I am yes, and much to.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Their chagrin, you also have a background as a private investigator.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
I do so.
Speaker 9 (22:13):
When Colorado was licensing private investigators, I was a licensed
private investigator. And as you said, I am also a
parent in jeff Co Public schools who our family has
had their own issue of inappropriate behavior by a teacher
that we reported, and we received what we would say,
or what we feel as a fairly lukewarm response to that,
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and we were told it would be handled internally and
that the teacher would be trained, and I just didn't
sit well with me. So we started doing some research
and I connected with Lindsay Datko and jeff Co Kids first,
and I realized that our story was one of many,
and our story was relatively minor when talking about what's
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going on in jeff Co.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
And obviously motivated you, Alison, to take a look under
the hood yourself, and you developed a timeline here. So
two part question, to the degree that you're able, willing,
comfortable to share about your family's interaction incident, what was
that and why was it enough to spark your own
investigation here?
Speaker 9 (23:21):
So what happened in our family's incident? Is our senior student,
he's seventeen years old. He pointed out to us that
the teacher for one of his classes on the official
class instagram was following some sort of gross.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
Things, as he called it.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
And when we dug a little deeper the instagram, the
official school instagram for this class was following to what
I would call very inappropriate links, and they were links
that took you straight out to OnlyFans and pornography. When
we initially brought it to the leadership at the school. Well,
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they were so upset that they were going to instantly
take it down, and then of course the story kind
of carries on from there. But what I'm here to
talk about is really this case that is just shocking,
there's no other way to say it. And Mary Parker
when she's talking at the board meeting and is speaking
about an abused child, that's also shocking, but that was
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abuse by a parent. What we're talking about is abuse
by employees and jeff Co schools, and.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
We're specifically talking about people who listened to this show
on a regular basis. Know this story that's not only
gone national but international at Columbine High School where a
young female student was being groomed by a female teacher
of social studies, and the short nuts and bolts of
it before I turned things over to Allison as two
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counselors then stepped in and helped advance a false narrative
that this young woman was homeless, she had a home,
she had parents that cared about her. But they advanced
this narrative based on the word of the young minor
female student herself without consultation with the parents. And then
further to that point, the principle then said that the
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teacher in question quote took an interest in helping students
navigate their sexuality unquote, which I'm uncomfortable with. I don't
care what the orientation of the teacher is my child
is that's inappropriate to me. Now I turned things over Allison,
You've done such great work here to dig into the
timeline of what was going on.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Take us from there in whatever direction you want to go.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (25:34):
So I first got interested just with all the fact
that all the different employees in this story are still
either licensed and or employed at the school or in
the district, and that was disturbing to me. And so
I looked up their licenses. None of them have a
knock on their license showing that they were suspended for
whatever happened in this incident and in this story. And
(25:58):
then I just started digging a little bit deeper. I
wanted to know why was the speech therapist counseling a student.
This student in question was a four point six GPA student,
so excellent student, never needed speech therapy, but yet this
speech therapist was counseling this student about her home life.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
And then from there, we know that there was a
lot of pillars of the community as I would describe them,
whether the principle, the counselors like you mentioned, a speech therapist,
the social studies teacher herself, that were all colluding, conspiring
against the parents to keep them in the dark. And
I think what this is, this is my analysis, is
it's a pendulum swing away from parents who might not approve,
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let's say, if their daughter comes out as a lesbian,
and that in that fervent, over zealous effort to conceal
that from the parents, they take it to this degree
where an obviously inappropriately real relationship was developing between an
adult teacher and a minor female student.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
And what does this timeline tell you.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
As far as whether there was involvement by the Jeff
coch Sheriff's Office. Was there a legal investigation as to
whether crimes were being committed?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
What did you find?
Speaker 9 (27:13):
So?
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Yeah, So well, first we found or I found that.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
The adults involved in the teachers, there was a teacher,
there was a speech pathologist, there was a counselor. They
were all discussing all of this information about this minor
child's home life, and they were reporting to the principle,
and this was happening for at least five weeks before
the parents discovered separately on their own that their daughter
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was in an inappropriate relationship. So it wasn't until after
the parents met with Jeff coch Sheriff's deputies that they
then were instructed to have a meeting with the school principal.
And only then did the school principal report it to
his superiors. So in that five week timeline, you had
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multiple employees school employees that could have reported it to
authorities and did not.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
And in fact, instead.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
Of reporting it to the authorities, they instead worked together
to fill out paperwork and help this minor child fill
out paperwork to declare herself homeless.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Let me attack this from another angle, and Alison Browner
is our guest, a private investigator, also a paralegal, also
a parent in the jeffco public schools. Is I know
it and I have covered incidents like this in a
very notorious national case of Larry Nasser and the abuse
of the USA Gymnastics girls and those that were at
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Michigan State University. It went to twist stars. It was
a multi layered scandal, and the one term that came
forward where the children were failed by the adults. Was
this term mandatory reporters. And I want you to comment
on that, Allison. There's so many people involved here as
I see it, that if they had but they were
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confront with this and he didn't know. It's not their
job to intervene and try to operate their own little
investigation or negotiate with the kid. Is she homeless. They
don't have a choice in the matter. They have to
mandatorily report this to authorities. They didn't do that.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
To my knowledge, they did not know.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
And I took the mandatory training for Colorado, the State
of Colorado for educators, and it's not necessarily the one
that jeff Cos Schools gives, but it's the state what
the state sponsors. And on the first slide it says,
if you are worried about a child, call this number, yes,
and it has a number. And none of these people,
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and none of these adults called that number.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
None of these adults.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
Keep in mind, this minor student had a younger sibling
at Columbine High School with the same counselor. So while
this counselor is emailing about paperwork to get this child
declared homeless. Nobody has pulled in the sibling to say, hey,
what's going on with your home life? Nobody's called the parents.
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I mean, when I started looking into this, it blew
my mind. It was so insane, Allison.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
In addition to that mandatory reporter status which apparently was
ignored or they just chose to do things on their own.
The other part of this too, that I keep getting
questions about, and I have questions about, is why child
Protective Services wasn't called. If they were that concerned that
maybe this young girl was being abused at home, call
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Child Protective Services, have them go investigate check it out
on their own.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
That didn't happen either.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
It didn't, and the family wished that it would happen,
because that would have If that would have happened, they
would have had five weeks before the child became an
adult and turned eighteen. They would have had at least
five weeks to get ahead of the problem and this
relationship and this predatory teacher. But nobody, nobody to our knowledge,
reported it to CPS. Again, the parents wish they would
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have reported it.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
And they didn't.
Speaker 9 (30:59):
And there's also a you know again, homeless paperwork was
filled out and it was sent in. As far as
we know, jeff Co won't give us that information. They
say that it is education they're claiming FERPA, so they
won't give it to the parents. But our question is
did jeff Co financially gain from declaring the child homeless?
Because they declared her homeless sometime on or after July
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first of twenty twenty one, she lived with her family
up until middle of May twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Is there any other conclusion one can draw from the facts,
as you have so dutifully reported them here on this timeline,
that the parents were deliberately left in the dark, not informed,
not included in the treatment of this child.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
Not I cannot not in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Now, we're going to have the mother of the young
woman in question exclusively on the Dan Kapla show that's
coming up in studio on March third, so we'll be
leading up to that. It's a week from today, that's
a Monday. We're so grateful to have Alison Brown are
in studio with us, So I guess we'll put a
fine point on it going from here, Allison, based on
everything you've found, how it's been handled, or rather, in
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my opinion, not handled by the Jefferson County Public Schools,
by the principle of Columbine High School.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
There's been no discipline handed out.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Not even like you just said earlier in this conversation,
no mark against their record for any discipline of a
demerit or a suspension or a warning or anything like that.
Now that the sunlight has been shined upon this story
from the outside, from you, from this show, from lindsay,
where does it go from here?
Speaker 9 (32:39):
Well, I mean, again, I hope that the parents were
working with them to help them pursue all legal and
civil actions that they have available to them.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
And so that's where we're going right now, Allison.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I mean, having done all this research, having a child
in the district who has also had a problem along
these lines, and you say not as serious. Anything, including
the story you shared with me about your son is serious.
How do you feel as a parent in the Jeffic
public schools.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
At this point?
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Well, you know, one thing that struck me with this
story is that my son will turn eighteen in April,
and so I put myself in this parents, these parents
in their shoes, and I was just heartbroken for them,
and it makes me scared.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I have a.
Speaker 9 (33:26):
Younger child that's going to be a freshman next year.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
I'm not sure I want to hear in jeff Co
Public Schools.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Cannot blame you one bit and cannot thank you enough
for this work that you did.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Alison.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
This is very revealing to me, is damning and incriminating,
and we need answers. We have way more questions right
now than we do answers, and they're not being offered
in a forthright manner by the Jeffco Public Schools at
any level. So we'll continue covering this story with Alison,
with Lindsay Datko of jeff Co Kids First, Alison Brown
or private investigator, thank you so much for being here today,
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and I'm so glad that you found Lindsay Dako and
connected with her.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
Yeah, thank you for having me appreciate all the work
you're doing.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
We'll take this time out your response your reaction five
seven seventy three nine, rounding out hour number one of
Ryan Schuling Live after this.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
But what I've said very published of Democrats need to
play possum.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
This whole thing is collapsing.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
It doesn't need Elizabeth Warren and somebody's screaming to pacify
some progressive advercy groups in Washington, which, by the way,
I wish these people.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Were just useless. They're actually worse than useless.
Speaker 10 (34:36):
That they're detrimental and they never ever learned to shut up.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
He's not wrong.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Most of the Democrats are worse than useless, meaning a
net negative.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
He's right.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
If they just sat there silent, you know, like Harpo Marx,
and did nothing, they might stand a better chance than
opening their mouths and removing all doubt that they're buffoons
and idiots. So he's got me on the book. Okay,
what else is going to happen here, James, carbon So.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Dan, this is what I believe.
Speaker 10 (35:03):
I'll believe that this administration in less than thirty days.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
In the midst of a.
Speaker 10 (35:08):
Massive collapse, and particularly a collapse.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
In public opinion.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
You want to put some money on that, James, I'll
go ahead and take that bet. And just to quote
the great Phil Hartman as Frank Sinatra from the Sinatra.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Group had man, then you lost me. Hery's not such
a good role. He's with self awareness. He's just knocking
on the door.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
And then the Republicans are gonna employe we just gotta
let that happen. I don't think it's going to be
good enough, James, not with all the damage the Biden
administration has done, and further the policies like we just
heard about the grooming, the green lighting of that.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
The trends in sports.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
It's a losing hand that the Dems are playing back
with more after this Ryan schuling life
The NCAA has complied immediately.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
By the way, that's good, But I understand Maine is
the main here, the governor of Maine out here, are
you not going to comply with it?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'll complying with the state federal laws.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Well we are the federal law. Well you better do it.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You better do it because you're not going to get
any federal funding at all if you don't. And by
the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal, although
I did very well there, your population doesn't want men
playing in women's sports.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
So you better you better.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
See every state, and good, I'll see you. And could
I look forward to that.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That should be a really easy one. And enjoy your
life after governor, because I don't think you'll be an
elected politics.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Enjoy your life, have fun because you're not going to
be in politics. Just phenomenal. And why are reprised that
from last week? Welcome back to it. Monday edition of
Ryan Schooling Live is our very own governor had a
chance to address this ters exchange between President Trump and
the governor of Maine. Well, Jared Poulis had the initial
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stab and bite at the apple here on the microphone.
I'll let you judge for yourselves how he did. And
then he was followed by Republican Governor Oklahoma Kevin Stitt,
who said, I think what needed to be said, but
Polis seemed to be very reluctant and uncomfortable saying, so
this is a question that he fielded about, Hey, where
(01:30):
do you come down on this confrontation between the governor
of Maine who wants to steadfastly allow biological males in
girls and women sports and spaces, and the President telling
her I'll.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
See you and court and will win.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
It's an easy case, I mean, And this is what
Governor Pulis had to say.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
As governors, we've our prior initiative that we continue our
work on is to disagree better. We always hope that
people can disagree in a way that elevates the discourse
and tries to come to a solution around around what
the issue is. I don't I don't think that that
disagree was necessarily a.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Model of that.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I don't think a lot of us went in really
even aware of what the conflict was about. But look,
if there's a conflict there, I encourage everybody to get
together and and work it out. Obviously, one way to
do that is through the courts if it comes to that,
but if there's other ways to understand where folks are
coming from, I would encourage everybody to do that.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Uh what do you think, Governor, should biological males participate
in female sports and be able to enter spaces like locker.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Rooms, bathrooms, changing rooms.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
He said a whole lot of nothing, and Stid starts
that way as well, but he finally gets to the
punchline at the end.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, I would just say, uh, it was it was
a little uncomfortable in the room. But like like Governor
Poulas said, what wasn't sure exactly what the backstory was.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Behind that conflict here.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Apparently there and some things that both sides have said.
It's probably good politics for both parties.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Maybe the governor was good politics for her for her constituents.
But you know, I think most Americans the big picture here,
I totally agree with the President. I did this back
in twenty two. I don't believe that most Americans think
that boys should play in girls sports.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Finally, yes, it's like an eighty twenty issue, but not
even Jared Polis with those kind of odds.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Girl, I don't know, ain't you.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
You had to disagree nicer and you know they got
to figure that out and be productive and well joining me. Now,
he's not one to a waffle or waiver. It's Valdimar Archiletta,
who I am sad to report is now the former
president of the Colorado log Cabin Republicans. I spoke at
their annual event on Saturday. I was honored to do so,
and he joins me live in studio vel. How you
(03:51):
doing man, Well, thank you for having me on. It's
good to be here. Before we get into your business,
I want you to comment on what you just heard,
or rather perhaps what you didn't here from.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
They had not heard the government, government, governments. The governor
comments right there. I'm not surprised Polis is doing his thing,
you know he is. Polis is an expert politician, and
that he knows how to get other people to do
the dirty work for him so he can come across
as the nice guy. And so he was playing the
nice guy and Stitt. You know, Donald Trump is a
(04:24):
one of a kind political figure. Only he can get
away with saying what he just said, and we love
him for that. Kevin Stitt has you know, he's he's
on a different level. He has to kind of play
the political game a little bit. So we had to,
you know, give the the preamble to his actual comment
to be to be a little nicer.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But I'm glad he got to it.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
I don't understand why either one of them said though
I don't know what was going on, they was very clear.
I feel like there was no confusion as to what
the argument was. So that was a little bit stupid
of him to say that I don't know what the
backstory is here.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It was very clear what the back the story was.
Neither one of.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Them hit it, so that was a little disappointing, but
I'm I'm glad he did get to the point at
the end that really is the point of.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
The whole issue.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
If I was a governor in any state, in either party,
I would want to know about what a governor in
another state was doing, if it was an open defiance
of a Trump presidential executive order or a Biden won
and where did they come down, what was the issue
and how would I I'm a governor of a state,
I would want to know so I'm agreeing completely with
(05:31):
what you just said that either they're lying and maybe
polist and still they had no idea this was even
I shouldn't know this is going on, but the fact
that you know and I know, and I would think
most of our listeners know exactly what was happening there.
What the disagreement was that Maine had been defiant in
resisting the executive order to keep biological males out of
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female sports and spaces in defensive Title nine. If they
didn't know, to me, that's an indictment that Polics or
Stit would be in the dark on that. It's like,
in form yourself. You're the governor of a state. You
could know these things. It's part of the political game.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
It's always safe to just pretend I don't know everything
that's going on here, but it gives you an out
if later on something comes out and well you said this, like,
well I didn't know, I said, I didn't know, Like
I said, I think. I think Donald Trump is a
very unique figure. He is able to speak in the
way others cannot, and it's good. I'm glad he's able
to do it, and he's willing to do it because
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he's he's getting stuff done.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Yeah, and a lot of you agree five seven, seven,
three nine. If you want to send your text in
or if you have a question for Valdemar, and I've got
the first one out of the gate. What led you
to the decision that you made on Saturday, or at
least announced on Saturday, Devil, I'm anticipating you made the
decision before then.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
When did you know that you know? Yeah, I'm done here.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
It's a decision that I came to a while ago,
and I'm with conversations with our other officers as well.
In the previous multiple years, we have been doing a
lot of work in external outreach and that we were
talking to county gops, the state GOP, and reaching out
to different candidates and Republican leadership around the state and
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talking to them about LGBT issues, letting them know that
we know there are gay conservatives here this is what
we think, helping them with messaging, helping them with their
own statements and that when they make to the public,
and how to talk to the LGBT community, as well
as reaching out to leadership in LGBT community, the LGBT
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community and different organizations and showing them that we are
not all these lefties that activists portray us to be.
There are LGBT conservatives. We exist, We're here, this is
what we think, this is what we stand for. And
having those conversations with them, I'm overall I'm the Republicans
that accepted us much more openly than the a lot
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of LGBT organizations did.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
But you know that's all right.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
We still let everyone know we were there. But this
past year we kind of came to a point in
the organization where we realize, like most people know who
we are. Like we're at the point now where people
know who we are. It's time for us to start
focusing on internal outreach, in that we want to build
a community where various members of the LGBT community, conservatiative
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gays Republicans can have a place to hang out, to
associate to to grow a community there, because I really
do think that's important because when you build that, those
are going to be the people who become the movers
and shakers in the party, who are going to do more,
who we're going to start volunteering for stuff. Because even
with my own experience, the reason I got involved in
(08:42):
politics was because I started going to Trump flag waves
and I had fun and I met other people who
thought like I did, and who I can go hang
out and talk without having to censor myself or being
afraid of what I say. Just go be myself, hang
out with these great people, have conversations, have fun. We'd
go out after words, and the next thing you knew,
I was the president of the Log Cabin Republicans of Colorado.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It happened very quick. I don't really even remember how
it happened, but it.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Was just time for that new chapter in the life
of the Log Cabin Republicans of Colorado. And I think
one good thing a good leader has to understand where
their strong points are and where they're not as strong.
And I'm kind of an introvert. A lot of people
don't believe at bit I'm kind of an introvert. I'm
(09:32):
not the best at developing social stuff and nature. Yeah,
so our treasurer Matt Koontz, who is now the new president,
he is much better at that. And so I was
talking to him one day and I was just like,
you should be the president. You're better at this than
I am. And if this is our goal and this
is where we want to take this organization for the
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time being now, not that we're going.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
To stop external outreach. We're still going to work with
the party.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
We're still going to out reach out to these different
organizations and let them know, you know, there are conservative
Republican gays and our voice should be heard. He's just
going to be a better leader for the future.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And so it was.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
It was a good switch. And I'm not going away.
I'm right here. I'm still here with them, and I'm
still a member, and I'm going to be helping them
behind the scenes getting things done. There's some changes happening
at the national level that are going to affect us. Really,
it's not that big a deal. It's more like just
kind of like our website and that are the platforms
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we're using to build the infrastructure of the organization are changing.
So I'm helping with that transition. And so I'm very
happy and I look forward to what this is, what
the organization is going to become. Anyone out there who
is l gb ORT and you are conservative, you are
a Republican.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
You can be a libertarian, you can be independent.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Whatever, but if you align with us a lot in
thought and again, you know we're open to different nights.
Is doesn't have to be one hundred percent. We welcome
you to come hang out with us. We want to
do a lot more fun social stuff and just give
people a place to be themselves and everyone else is
welcome to join as well. You don't have to be
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We love our straight friends. I am a straight cisgender heterosa.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Here we go.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
However you identify yourself, I guess we're all like we're Honestly,
I actually found that with like members of the Republican
our log Cabin Republicans, not necessarily just in Colorado, but
across the nation. Some of the most hardcore right wing Republicans.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I know are gay.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Yes, they're so against all these terms and these identifying as.
They're so over that. Come hang out with us. You
will have a good time and it doesn't matter what
your orient orientation. Ask Yeah, we don't ask you to
tell us that when you show up. We don't wear
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badges that say he is or whatever. Thank god, we
don't do that. So just come hang out with us.
We want we want to really build this community, not
just again for the LGBTs, but for everyone. Yeah, so
that you know, we have like especially next year in
twenty six there's it's going to be a big year
in politics here in the state, raw the governor's election, senator.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
All that good stuff.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
We need to have a crew of people who are
ready to go out there and work, and that's going
to start this year by building the community. Because those
people who we start building that with now, they're going
to be our volunteers next year.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
So log cabin Coolorado dot org is where you can
find out more. You can follow my guests Valdima arch
Aletta at Archa Letta number four, coeo on X formerly
known as Twitter. Real quick question here, how long were
you the president for? What was your tenure? Your time
in that position? Vel and how long do those usually
go for a president?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
President?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
For about five years? It's typically we do two year.
Your your run is two years. So every even year
we have our elections for officers and they go for
two years. So I made it halfway through this one,
and I was actually originally thinking about just ending going
through this term and then just not running again next year.
(13:23):
But like I said, I felt that this continuation to
to new leadership needed to happen now and not next year.
So I step down a little early, but yeah, every
two years about. We also have a new secretary, so
we got some new leadership in there, and it's.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Good we have we have some young people.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
We need more young people in the party in general,
and so it it is really good that we have
a lot of young people in the Log Cabin Republicans
right now because we need this next generation of millennials
and Gen Zers too to be taking you know, their
their role and still up and up.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I wanted to get your take on where it goes
from here, not just for the Log Cabin Republicans, but
for the Republican Party writ large. And you had Darcy
Shaning come in and I gave her credit. She showed up,
she was there for this meeting. I think that's big,
and she was asking for your guys' support and she
is seeking to be the Colorado Republican Party chair and
(14:23):
she'll be on this program coming up in our next hour.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
But you asked a very pertinent question.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I thought about, you know, the big hubbub, the firestorm
about the email that was sent from the Colorado Republican
Party and if anybody ever owned up to authorship of that.
We know that Dave Williams commented on it didn't rebuke,
it didn't refute it. And you asked her about how
that was handled. How did you feel? She answered that,
(14:48):
and do we have an answer really too, that's why
it happened and if it'll ever happen again something like that.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I think I think your answer was good.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
She you know, she didn't acknowledge that it wasn't the
greatest email that went out and stated she would have
handled the situation differently. I like her idea of not
just having a chair who says something and puts it
out without anyone reviewing it, especially something like that. Here's
one thing we have reached out to different counties and
(15:18):
also our state GP is to let them know that
we're here to help them with messaging like that. And
that was one thing that actually disappointed me last year.
It's like, we're right here. Yeah, you could have sent
us that letter. We could have because the actual issues
brought up in that email I agree with all our
members agree with, like we were just talking about, with
what Trump said right there, boys and girls sports, putting
(15:41):
children through gender affirming care.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
We are against those things.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Those things should not happen, and that is kind of
what the email was about.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
But rather than talking about.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Those issues, he started off by just attacking the entire
community as a whole. If you would have just taken
that out and went to the issue, well and you like,
I've had a conversation about something we should be talking
about and actually care about.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
That was my whole point, as you probably caught onto
with the address I gave at the annual meeting there
on Saturday, was there's a way that we can all
pull in the same direction, all be on the same page.
There's the way Dave Williams or the Colorado Republican Party
could have approached you the low camera public. Hey, we
want to put out a message. We know that you
know there's some nuance here. There are lesbians, gays, buys,
(16:29):
trans that are conservative, Like you were saying earlier, how
can we put out a productive message that'll bring people in,
that will communicate what we want to say. But that
never happened, and then you're blindsided by this and you're
forced to have to react to others on this show
or to sit down with Kyle Clark, and it puts
you in a very awkward, uncomfortable But I made my.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Little video at like three o'clock.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
I remember it looked like a big mess, and that
because I didn't think anyone would actually care what I said.
And then the next thing, you know, millions of people
watch that stupid video, butllions. Literally My thought is, you know,
whoever becomes the chair, I'm throwing this out to the
world right now, let me write the letter in June.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Whoever it is, whether it's Brita, whether it's Darcy or
someone we don't even know is gonna run yet.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
Like, whoever it is, I will write the letter for you,
and I will state the issues, but I'll do it
in a way that it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Won't make people hate Republicans.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
I think that we hate the gay community because there
is because, like you were mentioning earlier, this is a
winning issue the majority of people, even within the LGBT community.
I was down at Colorado Springs Pride, I think, once,
and someone came up. He was very argumentative, and I
finally just point blank asked him how old should somebody
(17:48):
be to get a sex change operation? And he said eighteen?
And I was like, that's all we're saying. I agree
with you. Republicans agree with you. Yes, So even within
in that community they agree, and I know multiple trans
women who I've talked to the past year, even trans
men who agree with this as well. They don't like
(18:11):
the way they're being represented by LGBT activists, by the politicians.
It misrepresents them and what they believe. So if the
Republicans would just stand up, have a normal voice and
say things without offending people, we could win them over,
build the base, and who knows what we can accomplish.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Find out more log Cabincolorado dot org. Vladimar Archuletta, the
outgoing president of that organization. Before we let you go here, Val,
I just want to compliment and commend you on the
work that you've done in that leadership role. You've brought prominence,
name recognition to the log Cabin Republicans. You've worked tirelessly,
you ran your own campaign for Congress against Diana de
(18:50):
get and just a remarkable job bringing people into the
fold that might not otherwise have heard of the log
Cabin Republicans.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
So congratulations to you, thank you, and I'm not going
away now. You guys are going to still hear about
me from time work time with yes, whether you like
it or not.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You're going to hear my name again.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Follow him at Archiletta number four COEO and again you
can follow the log Cabin Republicans on exit COO Log
Cabin Bell Great stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Thanks for your time. We'll talk a mind soon.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
All right, time out, We're back with much more after
this on Ryan Schuling Life.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
I just want to highlight the need to train children,
and I want to broaden a little bit more because
my experience as a causa is not.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Just sexual abuse. In fact, most of his other kind
of abuse.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
And I'll just remember one of my little Emma who
whose parents mistreated her so bad that she ended up
in children's hospital with oregon failure and some of the
therapies she got early on. She said to me one day,
she said, you know, my mom didn't treat me right.
She shouldn't have done that, and she didn't know that.
I mean, she was starved, essentially. And so I would
(20:01):
want our training for children to be broader than just
don't touch these body parts or don't or you hear
the proper terms, but what's appropriate even for parents.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
It's not about the parents.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
This issue not right now now what we're talking about
with what happened in Columbine High School. It's not about
teaching the kids better, it's about the people in jeff Co.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
School's own employee.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
And this whole deflect, distract obfus skate by Mary Parker,
president of the Jeffco School Board, isn't going to cut it.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
The jeff Co parents know better.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
And the audacity of Mary to prop up this story
about a little girl who was abused by her parents
to somehow kind of muddy the waters about what's going
on in the jeff Co public schools, this epidemic of abuse,
of grooming, sexual abuse. There's another story cropping up. Just
today I was texted about by Lindsay Datko from jeff
coke Kids First and she'll be appearing either with me
(21:03):
or with Dan over the next couple of days. And
this text from Alexa. I just read the New York
Post story on the Columbine groomer. I must have missed
the principal's apology. Seriously, what the age Because of him
and other staff neglecting their obligations, A teenager was groomed
and likely is in an abusive relationship great point its
present day even worse, This probably sets her up for
(21:26):
failure in future relationships and probably means she will not
reconcile with her family. I hope the family sues what
amount will cover such horrific and avoidable damages. All these
common sense rules have been thrown out with the alphabet
groups and gender reassignment. You want an ask for him,
we need a form signed by your doctor and parents.
You want puberty blockers, We won't tell your parents. You
want a tattoo before eighteen, though not with all your parents.
(21:49):
You want to chop off body parts, your parents have
no say insanity. My heart breaks for the family. Alexa,
You're not alone. In fact, we're very privileged to be
joined in studio now by Alison Browner. Now Alison is
a parent in the Jeffco Public schools.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I am yes, and much to.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Their chagrin, you also have a background as a private investigator.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
I do so.
Speaker 9 (22:13):
When Colorado was licensing private investigators, I was a licensed
private investigator. And as you said, I am also a
parent in jeff Co Public schools who our family has
had their own issue of inappropriate behavior by a teacher
that we reported, and we received what we would say,
or what we feel as a fairly lukewarm response to that,
(22:38):
and we were told it would be handled internally and
that the teacher would be trained, and I just didn't
sit well with me. So we started doing some research
and I connected with Lindsay Datko and jeff Co Kids first,
and I realized that our story was one of many,
and our story was relatively minor when talking about what's
(23:00):
going on in jeff Co.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
And obviously motivated you, Alison, to take a look under
the hood yourself, and you developed a timeline here. So
two part question, to the degree that you're able, willing,
comfortable to share about your family's interaction incident, what was
that and why was it enough to spark your own
investigation here?
Speaker 9 (23:21):
So what happened in our family's incident? Is our senior student,
he's seventeen years old. He pointed out to us that
the teacher for one of his classes on the official
class instagram was following some sort of gross.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
Things, as he called it.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
And when we dug a little deeper the instagram, the
official school instagram for this class was following to what
I would call very inappropriate links, and they were links
that took you straight out to OnlyFans and pornography. When
we initially brought it to the leadership at the school. Well,
(24:00):
they were so upset that they were going to instantly
take it down, and then of course the story kind
of carries on from there. But what I'm here to
talk about is really this case that is just shocking,
there's no other way to say it. And Mary Parker
when she's talking at the board meeting and is speaking
about an abused child, that's also shocking, but that was
(24:22):
abuse by a parent. What we're talking about is abuse
by employees and jeff Co schools, and.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
We're specifically talking about people who listened to this show
on a regular basis. Know this story that's not only
gone national but international at Columbine High School where a
young female student was being groomed by a female teacher
of social studies, and the short nuts and bolts of
it before I turned things over to Allison as two
(24:49):
counselors then stepped in and helped advance a false narrative
that this young woman was homeless, she had a home,
she had parents that cared about her. But they advanced
this narrative based on the word of the young minor
female student herself without consultation with the parents. And then
further to that point, the principle then said that the
(25:10):
teacher in question quote took an interest in helping students
navigate their sexuality unquote, which I'm uncomfortable with. I don't
care what the orientation of the teacher is my child
is that's inappropriate to me. Now I turned things over Allison,
You've done such great work here to dig into the
timeline of what was going on.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Take us from there in whatever direction you want to go.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (25:34):
So I first got interested just with all the fact
that all the different employees in this story are still
either licensed and or employed at the school or in
the district, and that was disturbing to me. And so
I looked up their licenses. None of them have a
knock on their license showing that they were suspended for
whatever happened in this incident and in this story. And
(25:58):
then I just started digging a little bit deeper. I
wanted to know why was the speech therapist counseling a student.
This student in question was a four point six GPA student,
so excellent student, never needed speech therapy, but yet this
speech therapist was counseling this student about her home life.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
And then from there, we know that there was a
lot of pillars of the community as I would describe them,
whether the principle, the counselors like you mentioned, a speech therapist,
the social studies teacher herself, that were all colluding, conspiring
against the parents to keep them in the dark. And
I think what this is, this is my analysis, is
it's a pendulum swing away from parents who might not approve,
(26:44):
let's say, if their daughter comes out as a lesbian,
and that in that fervent, over zealous effort to conceal
that from the parents, they take it to this degree
where an obviously inappropriately real relationship was developing between an
adult teacher and a minor female student.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
And what does this timeline tell you.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
As far as whether there was involvement by the Jeff
coch Sheriff's Office. Was there a legal investigation as to
whether crimes were being committed?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
What did you find?
Speaker 9 (27:13):
So?
Speaker 8 (27:13):
Yeah, So well, first we found or I found that.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
The adults involved in the teachers, there was a teacher,
there was a speech pathologist, there was a counselor. They
were all discussing all of this information about this minor
child's home life, and they were reporting to the principle,
and this was happening for at least five weeks before
the parents discovered separately on their own that their daughter
(27:40):
was in an inappropriate relationship. So it wasn't until after
the parents met with Jeff coch Sheriff's deputies that they
then were instructed to have a meeting with the school principal.
And only then did the school principal report it to
his superiors. So in that five week timeline, you had
(28:00):
multiple employees school employees that could have reported it to
authorities and did not.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
And in fact, instead.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
Of reporting it to the authorities, they instead worked together
to fill out paperwork and help this minor child fill
out paperwork to declare herself homeless.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Let me attack this from another angle, and Alison Browner
is our guest, a private investigator, also a paralegal, also
a parent in the jeffco public schools. Is I know
it and I have covered incidents like this in a
very notorious national case of Larry Nasser and the abuse
of the USA Gymnastics girls and those that were at
(28:39):
Michigan State University. It went to twist stars. It was
a multi layered scandal, and the one term that came
forward where the children were failed by the adults. Was
this term mandatory reporters. And I want you to comment
on that, Allison. There's so many people involved here as
I see it, that if they had but they were
(28:59):
confront with this and he didn't know. It's not their
job to intervene and try to operate their own little
investigation or negotiate with the kid. Is she homeless. They
don't have a choice in the matter. They have to
mandatorily report this to authorities. They didn't do that.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
To my knowledge, they did not know.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
And I took the mandatory training for Colorado, the State
of Colorado for educators, and it's not necessarily the one
that jeff Cos Schools gives, but it's the state what
the state sponsors. And on the first slide it says,
if you are worried about a child, call this number, yes,
and it has a number. And none of these people,
(29:38):
and none of these adults called that number.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
None of these adults.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
Keep in mind, this minor student had a younger sibling
at Columbine High School with the same counselor. So while
this counselor is emailing about paperwork to get this child
declared homeless. Nobody has pulled in the sibling to say, hey,
what's going on with your home life? Nobody's called the parents.
(30:04):
I mean, when I started looking into this, it blew
my mind. It was so insane, Allison.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
In addition to that mandatory reporter status which apparently was
ignored or they just chose to do things on their own.
The other part of this too, that I keep getting
questions about, and I have questions about, is why child
Protective Services wasn't called. If they were that concerned that
maybe this young girl was being abused at home, call
(30:31):
Child Protective Services, have them go investigate check it out
on their own.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
That didn't happen either.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
It didn't, and the family wished that it would happen,
because that would have If that would have happened, they
would have had five weeks before the child became an
adult and turned eighteen. They would have had at least
five weeks to get ahead of the problem and this
relationship and this predatory teacher. But nobody, nobody to our knowledge,
reported it to CPS. Again, the parents wish they would
(30:57):
have reported it.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
And they didn't.
Speaker 9 (30:59):
And there's also a you know again, homeless paperwork was
filled out and it was sent in. As far as
we know, jeff Co won't give us that information. They
say that it is education they're claiming FERPA, so they
won't give it to the parents. But our question is
did jeff Co financially gain from declaring the child homeless?
Because they declared her homeless sometime on or after July
(31:22):
first of twenty twenty one, she lived with her family
up until middle of May twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Is there any other conclusion one can draw from the facts,
as you have so dutifully reported them here on this timeline,
that the parents were deliberately left in the dark, not informed,
not included in the treatment of this child.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
Not I cannot not in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Now, we're going to have the mother of the young
woman in question exclusively on the Dan Kapla show that's
coming up in studio on March third, so we'll be
leading up to that. It's a week from today, that's
a Monday. We're so grateful to have Alison Brown are
in studio with us, So I guess we'll put a
fine point on it going from here, Allison, based on
everything you've found, how it's been handled, or rather, in
(32:11):
my opinion, not handled by the Jefferson County Public Schools,
by the principle of Columbine High School.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
There's been no discipline handed out.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Not even like you just said earlier in this conversation,
no mark against their record for any discipline of a
demerit or a suspension or a warning or anything like that.
Now that the sunlight has been shined upon this story
from the outside, from you, from this show, from lindsay,
where does it go from here?
Speaker 9 (32:39):
Well, I mean, again, I hope that the parents were
working with them to help them pursue all legal and
civil actions that they have available to them.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
And so that's where we're going right now, Allison.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I mean, having done all this research, having a child
in the district who has also had a problem along
these lines, and you say not as serious. Anything, including
the story you shared with me about your son is serious.
How do you feel as a parent in the Jeffic
public schools.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
At this point?
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Well, you know, one thing that struck me with this
story is that my son will turn eighteen in April,
and so I put myself in this parents, these parents
in their shoes, and I was just heartbroken for them,
and it makes me scared.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I have a.
Speaker 9 (33:26):
Younger child that's going to be a freshman next year.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
I'm not sure I want to hear in jeff Co
Public Schools.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Cannot blame you one bit and cannot thank you enough
for this work that you did.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Alison.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
This is very revealing to me, is damning and incriminating,
and we need answers. We have way more questions right
now than we do answers, and they're not being offered
in a forthright manner by the Jeffco Public Schools at
any level. So we'll continue covering this story with Alison,
with Lindsay Datko of jeff Co Kids First, Alison Brown
or private investigator, thank you so much for being here today,
(33:58):
and I'm so glad that you found Lindsay Dako and
connected with her.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
Yeah, thank you for having me appreciate all the work
you're doing.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
We'll take this time out your response your reaction five
seven seventy three nine, rounding out hour number one of
Ryan Schuling Live after this.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
But what I've said very published of Democrats need to
play possum.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
This whole thing is collapsing.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
It doesn't need Elizabeth Warren and somebody's screaming to pacify
some progressive advercy groups in Washington, which, by the way,
I wish these people.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Were just useless. They're actually worse than useless.
Speaker 10 (34:36):
That they're detrimental and they never ever learned to shut up.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
He's not wrong.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Most of the Democrats are worse than useless, meaning a
net negative.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
He's right.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
If they just sat there silent, you know, like Harpo Marx,
and did nothing, they might stand a better chance than
opening their mouths and removing all doubt that they're buffoons
and idiots. So he's got me on the book. Okay,
what else is going to happen here, James, carbon So.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Dan, this is what I believe.
Speaker 10 (35:03):
I'll believe that this administration in less than thirty days.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
In the midst of a.
Speaker 10 (35:08):
Massive collapse, and particularly a collapse.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
In public opinion.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
You want to put some money on that, James, I'll
go ahead and take that bet. And just to quote
the great Phil Hartman as Frank Sinatra from the Sinatra.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Group had man, then you lost me. Hery's not such
a good role. He's with self awareness. He's just knocking
on the door.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
And then the Republicans are gonna employe we just gotta
let that happen. I don't think it's going to be
good enough, James, not with all the damage the Biden
administration has done, and further the policies like we just
heard about the grooming, the green lighting of that.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
The trends in sports.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
It's a losing hand that the Dems are playing back
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