November 4, 2025 • 33 mins
Following his high-profile interview with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Ryan had one major question based on a contentious exchange between Cruz and Tucker Carlson - what happened to Tucker? The answer to this question became even more complicated after the former top-rated TV host welcomed known anti-Semite and racist Nick Fuentes onto his podcast. Ryan details why this is an ominous move, and why the trend of grifters like Fuentes and Candace Owens must be exposed.
Jimmy Sengenberger, investigative reporter and columnist for The Gazette, joins Ryan to discuss the implications of Propositions LL and MM as a money grab to help fund a failing, boondoggle school lunch program in Colorado.
Also, expanding on his latest article for the Gazette - entitled 'Union on full spin in school board races.'
https://www.denvergazette.com/2025/11/03/unions-on-full-spin-in-school-board-races-jimmy-sengenberger/
James Flippin, news director for 77 WABC in New York, joins Ryan to discuss the latest in both the New Jersey governor's race between Mikie Sherrill (D) and Jack Ciattarelli (R) and the New York City mayor's race with frontrunner Zohran Mamdani (DSA) looking to stave off Andrew Cuomo (I) and Curtis Sliwa (R).
https://wabcradio.com/show/james-flippin/
Jimmy Sengenberger, investigative reporter and columnist for The Gazette, joins Ryan to discuss the implications of Propositions LL and MM as a money grab to help fund a failing, boondoggle school lunch program in Colorado.
Also, expanding on his latest article for the Gazette - entitled 'Union on full spin in school board races.'
https://www.denvergazette.com/2025/11/03/unions-on-full-spin-in-school-board-races-jimmy-sengenberger/
James Flippin, news director for 77 WABC in New York, joins Ryan to discuss the latest in both the New Jersey governor's race between Mikie Sherrill (D) and Jack Ciattarelli (R) and the New York City mayor's race with frontrunner Zohran Mamdani (DSA) looking to stave off Andrew Cuomo (I) and Curtis Sliwa (R).
https://wabcradio.com/show/james-flippin/
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One final point, Senator Cruz, this interchange between you and
Tucker Carlson aged very well for you, not so well
for him. In the wake of the Trump peace accord
between Israel and Hamas.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Okay, what's the ethnic mixer, Ron, they are Persians and
personately Shia.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Okay, you don't know anything about Iran.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So okay, I am not the Tucker Carlson on a RAM.
You're a senator who's calling thember, the one who about
the country.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
No, you don't know anything about the country.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Who can't figure out to say, General Solamoni, they're trying
to murder Trump?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yes, because you're.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation if
they really believe that carrying out military strikes today?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Who said Israel was right with our help? Now?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
At one time, you will not have met a bigger
Tucker Carlson fan than yours. Truly, when he was in
the midst of really his heyday, when he was topping
the ratings on Fox News, when he really led the
discussions of our political discourse on a nightly basis, there
was no equal to Tucker. In fact, he took that
(01:12):
time slot very coveted one eight pm on Fox News
from the disgraced hands of Bill O'Reilly, another guy that
at one time I admired highly, at least for his
on air product, for his intellect, for his acumen when
it comes to political analysis, and also historical knowledge. Nobody's
(01:34):
written more books on history from a wider variety of
topics and individuals killing dot dot dot than Bill O'Reilly.
But he couldn't control himself personally with women in the workplace,
and that cost him really his career. And with Tucker,
it seems like this is one of the greatest acts
(01:57):
of self sabotage I've ever witnessed in a person that
I feel should know better.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And we've talked about this with.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Tucker platforming certain individuals, and Ben Shapiro went into great
detail on this. I closed the Dan Kaplis Show yesterday
by inviting everyone to watch and or listen to Ben
Shapiro's Daily Wire special episode from yesterday in which he
went through and We've got a lot of those clips
(02:29):
here and I'll try to get to them as I
am able.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
But for your own benefit to watch it in its entirety.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It deconstructs this individual who I don't talk about a
lot on this program because I don't like to mainstream
fringe elements who want, I feel our grifters and therefore
liars who are doing something maybe for profit. There's a
motive that I can't ascribe necessarily directly, but there's something off,
(03:00):
something off about this Nick Fuente's character. He comes across
as being a white nationalist, and that would be putting
it mildly, but when I listen to him, I sense
a lack of seriousness and a lack of authenticity. He's young,
you could write it off as he's naive, or he's
(03:22):
looking to draw what I call, I use the pro
wrestling term cheap heat. And this is a villain wrestler
that'll come into the ring and like ravishing Rick Rude
used to do this, or the million dollar man Ted Dbasse.
Jesse Thomas knows what I'm talking about over there and
just like say inflammatory things to the crowd, insulting them,
insulting the town that they're in. They're doing this on
(03:44):
purpose to draw a reaction. Bobby the brain heenan again
very notorious for this. But Bobby Heenen was a good person,
a good man. Ted Dbiassi is a wonderful person, a
very strong man of faith, a Christian, but he's There
was an iconic scene, really brief aside here in which
a young boy was dribbling a basketball and he said,
(04:06):
if you could dribble it ten times in a row,
I'll give you one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And this is back in the eighties. I had a
lot of money, and he kicked the.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Ball away and it was like so egregiously awful. And
I remember there was a photo I think it was
on Facebook and Ted Dibiasi's account years later, I'm talking
maybe a couple of years ago. This little boy, he
might have been six or seven at the time, if
I had to guess, maybe younger even had a reconnection
(04:34):
with Ted Dibiasi all these years later and they took
a photo together.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
So all's well, that ends well there.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But my point being, that's in the world of pro wrestling,
so you're trying to develop these themes and storylines and characters,
and they make money because they go around from city
to city, and one wrestler's the baby faced the good guy, everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Roots for them. Oh Cogan, you know that's sort of person.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
And then you got what made wrestling, in my opinion,
the heels, the bad guys, and what I read from
Nick Fuentas and his conduct, his words, their odious, their offensive,
But it doesn't feel to me like there's a realness
behind it. I could be wrong, and in fact, that
(05:19):
would be a kind read on it, that Nick is
just doing this all for pomp, circumstance and show, trying
to make a fast buck.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
He might be. That's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It is also what it feels like with me with
Candace Owans, who I warned many of you about years ago,
and she was this fresh face, rising star conservative punditry.
Had a job with Ben Shapiro, who I respect highly
and to this day I respect him. But his biggest
blind spot probably the worst decision he's ever made in business.
(05:52):
And I think if he was being honest with you,
with me, with all of us, he would agree with
this was hiring Candace Owans in the first place.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
She's a charlatan, she's a fraud, she's an intellectual knit wit.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
She does not have the moral fiber, the gravitas, the
life experience to really conduct herself in a way that
is both believable, authentic, sincere real, and she's gone off
the deep end grifting.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And what is the grift? It is anti Zionist, anti Semitic.
This is the far right version of.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Being anti Jewish, and we've seen it on the far left,
but there is an element of it on the far right,
and I don't understand it. I'll never understand it. I
was just raised a different way, especially on my mom's side,
Serbian immigrants, many of whom my bubble lost extended family
members in the Holocaust. You know, there's a nearness, there's
(06:52):
a dearness. There's a real passionate personal part of me
that sees this world through the eyes of Jewish people
and the oppression that they face. I am not Jewish,
but I am a Zionist, and I do believe in
the Judaeo Christian work ethic and the Judeo Christian values.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And morals that undergird are very founding from the very beginning.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And there are those like a nick flent Taste that
would seek to divide and conquer, that would seek to
give kerosene, not just gasoline, but to this burning fire
of rage from younger people in America and specifically younger
white males who are disaffected. And I get that part
of it, and we talk about on this show. But
(07:40):
then there is the blame game of it's all the
Jews' fault. This is dark, it's insidious, it's wrong, and
it bears talking about in greater detail. Today's election day
throughout the United States, and there are very important races
New York City mayor, governor, in New Jersey and Virginia.
We'll be talking about that throughout today. But I wanted
(08:03):
to kind of bookmark this for you, maybe give you
a homework assignment, and have you watch the Monday episode
of Ben Shapiro's program on Daily Wire. What you just
heard off the top was my interview from a couple
of weeks ago with Senator Ted Cruz, again, a man
I admire highly.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I think Ted Cruz is.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
An outstanding representative in our Congress, one of the smartest
intellects ever to serve in that capacity. He was head
of the class at Harvard Law Ellan Dershowitz calls him
the finest student he ever had. Ted Cruz would make
a fine President of the United States. That's how much
I admire this man and his intellect, and that exchange
that he had with Tucker Carlson is both telling and disappointing.
(08:48):
And that is my perception, my view of Tucker. I
don't know what Tucker's up to. I can kind of
explain away, like I just did Nick flent Day's candae Owens. Okay,
they're barking. You know, there's small dogs, there's small fish,
big pond. Tucker's not. And it doesn't really make sense
to me why he would be pushing so far to
(09:12):
the right, why he would be platforming individuals calling themselves
historians who said me that maybe Hitler had a point,
Nazis weren't that bad. In fact, Winston Churchill was the
real villain of World War Two. What Winston Churchill is
one of the greatest forces for good in world history.
(09:34):
But certainly the twentieth century folks, I wouldn't be here,
many of us would not be here if not for
Winston Churchill. Was he perfect? No, His resistance to the
Nazis was paramount in defeating them. Our alliance with Great
Britain and Winston Churchill saved the world from darkness.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And tyranny and evil.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
So the minute that comes out of a person's mouth
that Winston Churchill was the villain of World War two,
I discount anything else they have to say. That's pure idiocy,
that's madness, and that again would be the kindest explanation
for this.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
More on my.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Interview with Ted Cruz from a couple of weeks ago
and the tay to daya that he had with Tucker Carlson,
and Carlson just being out of phase and out of
line with so much of his analysis, and when I
witnessed him putting Nick flintes on his podcast and as
Ben Shapiro points out, not pushing back on him at all.
(10:37):
Just one more line before we do a hard pivot here.
You got to hear this absolutely insane.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So for example, I'll ask a series of wildly obsequious
questions to Nick Flint's He'll even let Nick flints support
for Joseph Stalin slide.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
It's actually funny. It was December eighteenth.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I remember because that's an important date to me, and
as Joseph Stalin's birth, I'm a fan, you're a fan
of Stalinson was an admirer. But we don't need to
go into that. I guess like, let's uh, okay, let's
get back. We'll circle back today.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
But it will grill tad cruise about the population of Iran,
which we just heard, so let that slide and go.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And fun Das has this kind of uh, mischievous grin
on his face when he says I'm a big fan
of Stalin again, it feels like cheap heat, like he
doesn't really believe that, but he's doing it for shock
value and to draw clicks and views and heat and downloads.
But the danger in that is there would be an
individual out there who would take him seriously. You know,
(11:42):
I'm fifty one years old. I lived a lot of life.
I've witnessed a lot of things. I can see a
charlatan when one appears before me, and I believe that
Funtdas is one of those. But a young person who's impressionable,
who doesn't have that that reference point, might hear what
Nick Funte's home I made Stalin wasn't so Stalin was
pure evil A you're kidding me. The Gulags, so many
(12:05):
millions of people died in the Soviet Union on his watch.
They tore down any references to Stalin, even kruz Cheff,
who's not a great guy in his own right, but
what he took, they knew Stalin was horrific. They changed
the name of Stalingrad back to Saint Petersburg. Joining us now,
my good friend Jimmy Sanenberger with the Gazette, and I
(12:27):
want to get a quick take from him on the
ballot measures that have the most impact on the most
people statewide here in Colorado today. There aren't a lot
of them, but this would be one of them. He
joins us now on Ryan Schuling Live, Jimmy, Hello, Hey, Ryan.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
By the way, good commentary. I loved watching and watch
the full Ben Shapiro video, and let me just say
it was tremendous. I actually, though, think that Flantes is
far more serious than Candice Owens or Tucker Carlton. I
think they're both absolutely grifters and have been for years.
(13:02):
But I feel like he may do it in a
joking way at times, but the approach that Wenti takes,
I think has been serious for years and he's a genuine,
anti semi and terrible person. He just sometimes does these
jokes where he's like he knows what he said was
outrageous in the particular format or whatnot, and so we laughs.
(13:25):
But I think he's a real serious actor and a
terrible human being.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Could not agree more.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
And it's time that we call out those on quote
unquote our side.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I don't identify with this person, I don't align myself
with this person, but they're not on the right.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
No, no, And it's important that I think people like you,
people like me, that we do talk about and get
it out there. And I can kind of understand where
you're saying, Nick Flint, da da da. I don't understand
the Tucker part of it, and I'll try to break
that down as the show goes down, but I do
want to get your take on propositions l L and MM.
And you said something at a recent event that really
with me, and I mentioned it on this program, which
(14:01):
is why I wanted to have you on here, because
the way that it is always framed when the politicians
of Colorado come to us with a ballot measure because
they have to through Tabor to raise our taxes, is
they're going to soft pedal it, They're going to package
it instead away, They're going to start something without raising taxes.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But by raising taxes.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Or in this case, we're just going to tax the
really wealthy folks, not you guys. You don't have anything
to worry about. These rich guys over here that we hate.
They never making three hundred grand or more. We're gonna
zap them and make sure that this boondoggle school lunch
program that is falling under the weight of itself gets
more replenished funding so we can keep it going forward.
(14:41):
But Jimmy, you know as well as I do, it
doesn't stop there.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Two thoughts. First, absolutely on the idea of taxing rich
people more, because that's how it's building. In fact, MM
specifically says shall taxes be increased by ninety five million
dollars annually? So on that one, they're very clear to
say taxes would go up, but it's for those making
(15:07):
three hundred thousand dollars or above, and we know that
they have been trying to push on to next year's
ballots the progressives in the state, a so called progressive
income tax or people making above I think it's five
hundred thousand. In that case dollars would pay more, and
we have a flat tax in Colorado, and that's very
intentional This is less explicit in that it's sort of
(15:29):
a roundabout way. Instead, we're going to adjust. In the
case of MM proposition, MM, we're going to adjust the
standard deduction and what you're able to qualify for and
apply to your state taxes, resulting in his tax increase.
It's the clever word games that the left likes to
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play to make it more palatable, whereas on LL it's
mostly we're not going to raise taxes, We're going to
just expand what we've done. Well, let's talk about what
they've got. This program, a real money tip for school lunches,
brought in more than one hundred million dollars last year
(16:10):
because they did this slashing of tax deductions for hiring commerners,
but it still also ran a fifty six million dollar deficit.
We have heard it said time and time again. I'm
sure you said it. I've said it. Milton Friedman was
very fond of highlighting this. There's no such thing as
a free lunch, and LL and MM really put a
(16:32):
pin on this point. One final thing. This program is
not about the needy kids who, no matter what, will
get their school lunches covered. It is for other families
that aren't in that kind of diar need. They will
will have an impact on this, but the fact of
the matter is, again, there's no such thing as a
(16:53):
free lunch. And this was one hundred and fifty six
million dollar program that should have been one hundred million
million dollars, and even then is a boondoggle in and
of itself.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Then they'll keep coming back for more taxes and that
threshold will get lower and lower. How about people just
making over two hundred, how about people just making over
one hundred? Guess what's going to be everybody now, So
nip this in the bud. Both Jimmy and I agree
if you're turning your ballots into day hopefully you are,
or maybe you already have hard no on both LLL
and MM a couple of minutes that we've got left here. Jimmy,
you're newest for the Gazette. Union's on full spin in
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school board races, those are being decided today.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
What you got in my gazette column today in the
Denver Gazette, I break down Jefferson County schools, Cherry Creek Schools,
and Denver Public schools and the union shenanigans going on
there in some cases, it's about moving from the candidates
they supported before her incumbents and now endorsing somebody else
(17:51):
to act like that, you know, we got new candidates,
support these candidates instead. In other cases, it's spinning it
as though they're oonents the candidates they didn't endorse, like
in Jefferson County are already on the school board when
only one of them is, and we should blame then
for the failures, never mind the fact that it's a
one hundred percent union backed board already, and it is
(18:14):
the Jeffco Schools mess is the union's mess. And I
contrast those three districts, which happened to be among the
fewer than forty school districts that have collective bargaining that
are fully unionized districts with Douglas County Schools where unionization
is so unpopular that the union candidates are hiding the
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fact that they do support collective bargaining, which hasn't been
in the place in doug Cooet schools since twenty twelve,
but their not being open about it and the unions
not being open about it. So there's a lot of
shenanigans going on here. On my bottom line, in today's
Denver Gazette column. From swapping candidates to concealing facts, the
(18:57):
union boss's playbook is deception, and voters would be wise,
as they know our k how audience is to tune
out their spin rin.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
His latest union's on full spin in school board races,
you know not have one on your ballots and Jimmy
Sangenberger writing about it for the Gazette. Jimmy, great stuff.
As always, thank you so much for your time here today.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Once again, Thanks brother.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Talking later, Jimmy Sangenberger right there, and when we come back,
we'll talk to James Flipping seventy seven w ABC News
director about the races in New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
What you make up there.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
But let's not forget since Donald Trump took the presidency again,
illegal crossings are down nine.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
And just as he has.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Secured the border, it's my job to secure in New
Jersey and we do that by getting rid of Sachury
City Century state policy which only encourages illegal immigration.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
We shouldn't be doing this. Sounds good with me.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Jack Chatterrelli, the Republican running once again for governor in
New Jersey, one of three big races that are being
watched nationally tonight on this election night. Back here on
Ryan Shuling Live. He nearly upset Phil Murphy the last
time around four years ago, and this time going up
against Mikey Cheryl the Democrat, and it's going right down
(20:21):
to the wire. Here to talk to us about it,
as well as the mayor's race in neighboring New York City.
He's the news director for seventy seven WABC in New York.
James Flippan joins us for the first time on Ryan
Shuling Live. James, thanks for your time.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Ryan, thanks for having me. Definitely a crazy night here
at the station. It's been a crazy few weeks for
all of us covering these New Jersey and New York races,
and it's down to the final wire. We're just a
few hours away from the polls closing in New Jersey
and then it'll be nine o'clock on the East Coast
when the polls close in New York. So we're counting
down the hours.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Absolutely looking down south to Virginia. We've seen that race
tainted by these very inflammatory texts from Jay Jones running
for Attorney General, and it's serving as an anchor weight,
if not an albatross around the neck of Abigail Spanberger
in her race as a Democrat against Winsome Sears. Has
there been any similar missteps from Mikey Cheryl's campaign that
(21:19):
might open the door for a Chattarelli to win. How
do you break that race down in bullet point fashion?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Yeah, I mean, Mikey Cheryl has not really run much
of a campaign. She basically said, I'm a mom, I
was in the military, and I hate President Trump. That's
more or less what the base of her campaign came
down to. And you know, she did have some missteps
in the sense that there's this ongoing question or sort
of scandal, if you will, concerning her not having walked
(21:49):
in graduation down at the Naval Academy in Annapolis. Now,
supposedly that was connected to her not dining on classmates
who had stolen some test answers. It was a well
known instance in which some test answers have been stolen
in the early nineties. Not a good book for Mikey
Cheryl when she had made the military record such a
key point of her campaign. But I don't really know
(22:11):
how much that moved the needle, To be honest with you, Ryan,
I think one of the bigger problems for Mikey Cheryl
was this interview that she did with Charlemagne the God,
who's obviously a well known radio guy and part of
your parent network there, but he is a guy who
was interviewing Cheryl and basically asked her about some of
this inside trading allegation that everybody in Congress faces, right,
(22:34):
you know, everybody's portfolio does really, really well when they're
in Congress, and she kind of failed to answer the
question with any effective poise. He was asking here, well,
how did you make that money? Is it true that
you made all this money even if it's in your
husband's name, And I'm paraphrasing what she said. It was
a bunch of I don't know, I'm gonna have to
(22:54):
look into that and should have really made that into
a campaign ad that really hit pretty hard and hit
well now well in terms of the numbers. Look, you
mentioned that Phil Murphy Jack Hitdarelli matchup last time. I
was actually covering Phil Murphy's campaign headquarters that night for
one of the iHeart affiliates here in New York, and
that poll was pretty close ahead of time. I think
(23:15):
that Murphy was up by about five or six points
in the last Emerson College poll that came out ahead
of the election night in twenty twenty one. Now, for
Jack Chitdarelli, he trailed Democrat Mikey Cheryl by one point
in that Emerson College poll when the most recent version
came out before this election night, So it's really close.
I think that Chitdarelli basically has just been kind of
(23:36):
banging away at the whole old saw of it's too
expensive to live here in New Jersey. Taxes are too high,
Trenton politicians don't know how to stand up for you,
but I will. And to the E staid that that's
making inroads. It may, but I think for Jackie, for
Mikey Cheryl, I should say she has to worry about
maybe a lack of enthusiasm for her voting base, and
(23:57):
that could be why it's so so close.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
James Clippin keeping an eye on this directly in his
coverage for seventy seven to be ABC in New York.
He's the news director there breaking down the New Jersey
governor's race, seeing what Jack Chedarelli can do, and then
also across the way to New York City and the
mayor's race there, and again this just boggles the mind.
This is a city that not that long ago, I
recognize it's been thirty odd years, but elected a Republican
(24:22):
who cleaned up the city in Rudy Giuliani, a Republican
governor in George Pataki. You did much of the same,
and now they're turning to a borderline communist, a democratic socialist,
as he describes himself, Zeron Mandani.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
And here's his explanation on that.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
What is't the difference between it a democrat, a democratic socialist,
and a communist.
Speaker 9 (24:42):
Well, I'm a democratic socialist who's also a democrat, right,
And when I say I'm a democratic socialist, I explain
it in the words of doctor Kington from decades ago,
who said the call it democracy or call it democratic socialism.
There must be a better distribution of wealth for all
of God's children.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
In this country, right.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
And what I actually find is that when you're speaking
New Yorkers, they ask you less how you describe your politics,
and more whether there's room for them in that politics.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It just seems to me, James, that a lot of
younger people who might be voting for Mum Donnie, don't
really understand the full scope and the scam that is socialism,
call it democratic socialism, rapid, whatever label you want. But
here's Zorn Mamdanni. He's likable, he's a good looking guy.
He smiles a lot. They made fun of him even
(25:26):
for that on Saturday Night Live. He's got his TikTok videos,
he's very online, he's plugged into how young people consume
that information. But when you look under the hood, his
policies are abysmal and they're going to mean disaster for
New York City, and yet it seems like he's on
the verge of victory tonight.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Your thoughts, well, Ryan.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
I mean, there's a few things to break down there.
First of all, the early voting totals were massive in
this election. You had hundreds of thousands of people come
out and participate in early voting, much more so than
what you've had in previous non presidential election years.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
So clearly people.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
In New York are out and voting in this election.
Some of the early voting totals kind of skewed towards
older voters five and up, and some people have suggested
that that could be maybe not so good for mom Donnie, who,
as you alluded to, prefers or he appeals to the
younger voter. He's got the really good TikTok game. His
mom is a Bollywood director, so they know a thing
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or two about production value and lighting and camera shots.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And all that.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
But in terms of the overarching point you made Ryan
about democratic socialists versus a democrat, and look, the line
has been totally blurred, especially here in New York City.
And I think that you can probably speak to that
in parts of Colorado, which is, you know, like New Jersey,
sometimes purple, sometimes blue or whatever, and you have this
whole belief amongst people who are left of center that
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the socialist ideal is really great and that it can
be worked out and that it hasn't been done the
proper way before or whatever. And in New York you've
had a declining tax base, a taxpayer base that's declining.
People are moving to Florida and Virginia and the Carolinas,
and the math doesn't really add up in terms of
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what they want to do with all this socialist program
stuff with Zoorn Mamdani. But I don't think the average
voter pays that close attention to that Ryan. And that's
the problem is that you've got about seventy five percent
registered Democrats here in New York. Most of them probably
are going to pull the lever for the guy that's
got the D next to the name, to the extent
that they're playing really close attention to it. Maybe they're
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interested in some of these other candidates, but they're probably
not thinking about how much socialism as a ideal, or
communism or Marxism or whatever has failed in the past
brought a lot of misery to a lot of people.
I just don't think that's part of their thought process.
And the weird thing is, I read an op ed
piece that was talking about this. It's not necessarily the
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super indigen or poor or poverty stricken that are feeling
this way. It's people that are actually, generally speaking, doing
okay for themselves, but they feel they don't have as
much as the investment banker down the street, as the
corporate attorney down the street, or whatever it may be.
And it's this whole haves have not sort of weird
class warfare thing that's driving a lot of the appeal
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of socialism in a place like New York.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Find out more online their website WABC Radio dot com.
He is James Flippin, News director Verse seventy seven WABC
in New York, keeping a close eye on both of
these races, the New York City Mayor's race and the
New Jersey Governor's race. We'll find out the winner tonight. James,
Thank you so much for your time, great analysis, and
we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Thank you, Ryan.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
We'll keep it posting, all right.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
James Flippin, right there your thoughts on these races and
what it means for the rest of the country. Will
there be a strong anti Trump contingent that comes out
to vote in full force, not just for Moumdanie, we
know that, but then also for Mikey Cheryl. And then
what is the factor that Trump plays in the New
York City Mayor's race where he kind of a soft served,
a quasi lukewarm endorsement of Andrew Cuomo. Does that help
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her Cuomo? In my opinion, it hurts them. But we'll
find out more as the electure results come in later
this evening. This time out wrapping up our one Ryan
Schuling live on this Tuesday. After this, it's time once
again for another edition of Trump's hot takes, turning the
forty seventh president's epic interactions with the fake news media.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
But with cleaning up our cities.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
You know, I campaigned on crime, but I've done a
much better job in crime than I said.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
You know, the crime numbers.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Are way down, even though we have a lot more
people in our country that really shouldn't be here, and
many of them are stone cold hard criminals. When I
look at d C now, you can walk down the
middle of the street. You can have your daughter who's
ten years old meet you at the park.
Speaker 10 (29:47):
She's going to be Okay, can shut with murders?
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Well most well certain you tell me how big a
difference is DC now compared to what it was in
your income, right, I mean, you have to be honest
with me.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
People look people in the White House.
Speaker 10 (30:03):
They woke up to me, young ladies I've never seen sir,
thank you very much. I know they don't even have
to tell me what they're thanking me for. But when
I asked why, he said, she one knows that I'd
get into Uber, and I felt dangerous.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Even in Uber, they'd attacked the car.
Speaker 10 (30:19):
Okay, it wasn't even saying that sirry now walked to
work every day and I walk.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I'm so safe.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
There's nothing going to happen, one hundred percent safe. And
you know that too.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I want to ask you about it. You live here,
you know that too. I want to ask you about
a difference American city difference in Washington d C. I
think I've been working too hard.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
I haven't been out and.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
About I'm not a fair answer. You see, I get
in my car and go to work, and I go hard.
I have to use that one. Don't don't worry. I've
been working.
Speaker 10 (30:46):
It's like you know what the difference is, like day
and night.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Masterful exchange their President Trump turned that interview right on
its head and tried to press Norah O'Donnell into answering
the quest estion. She tried to just dismiss it out
of hand. Oh, I live in DC. Okay, then do
you notice a difference. Oh, I'm not really paying attention.
I just driving to work and I don't look. And
I've been too busy, and like bullblank. President Trump called
(31:14):
her out. She's got nothing because she knows he's right. Washington,
DC is far safer. And I believe that he's been
getting that feedback from people because I've witnessed it. There's
been all kinds of videos posted on social media showing
that result night and day.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
As he just said, go.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
To the tax five seven seven three nine, Ryan, it's
not just young people who go for the democratic socialist thing.
I know, it's part of senders. There's a lot of
people out there. It's me, it's Marco Rubio, it's Ted Cruz,
it's immigrants to this country whose ancestors escaped communism. It's
derivation they're in socialism. And the fact that so many
(31:59):
in the main street media don know it's not communistment
should get your Socialism's representative of Byron Donald's tangling with
lower Coach of CNN on this topic.
Speaker 11 (32:11):
When you put in communists and yes, communist policies, that's
what Zauraman Donnie is talking about.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Communist socialist. He says, I can't tell what the difference is. Well,
he can display with the differences, he can describe differences
for you.
Speaker 11 (32:24):
The socialism is not the same basis of communism in
this country.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
You know that question.
Speaker 11 (32:28):
The man wants to create the man wants to create
government run grocery stars. He wants free transportation, both of
which are impossible to do.
Speaker 9 (32:35):
Because he is a trigger word to undermine all his policies.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
He's not, he says, I.
Speaker 11 (32:40):
Don't need to I don't need to undermine his policies.
His policies undermine.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Himself because they've never worked.
Speaker 11 (32:46):
Here's what I want him to do. Tell me where
they've ever worked. They've never worked. He knows that, I
knows that. But what he's trying to do is promise
everybody something that they can't have. And the truth is,
there is no free lunch, just like there's no free
buy because you know what happens when you have a
free bus, there's nobody there to fix it or to
drive it. He knows that, I know that. You know
(33:06):
that America does know it. And it's unfortunate that the
city of New York, my former Solme city, is probably
gonna have to go through this.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
There's a reason why people are floating over on rafts
made from the doors of fifty seven chevies in Cuba
to come here. They're not fleeing or flocking to go
to Venezuela, Cuba, Communist China.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
If it was so great, why doesn't it work? And
if it worked.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Why don't people flee the United States and go to
these countries where these wonderful socialist policies are in place.
Because it's all a scam and it's a bill of
goods being sold right now by Zora Mamdani.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
And I'm telling you he wins tonight
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Which is likely that city is going under and people
will flee out of the city.
One final point, Senator Cruz, this interchange between you and
Tucker Carlson aged very well for you, not so well
for him. In the wake of the Trump peace accord
between Israel and Hamas.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Okay, what's the ethnic mixer, Ron, they are Persians and
personately Shia.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Okay, you don't know anything about Iran.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So okay, I am not the Tucker Carlson on a RAM.
You're a senator who's calling thember, the one who about
the country.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
No, you don't know anything about the country.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Who can't figure out to say, General Solamoni, they're trying
to murder Trump?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yes, because you're.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation if
they really believe that carrying out military strikes today?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Who said Israel was right with our help? Now?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
At one time, you will not have met a bigger
Tucker Carlson fan than yours. Truly, when he was in
the midst of really his heyday, when he was topping
the ratings on Fox News, when he really led the
discussions of our political discourse on a nightly basis, there
was no equal to Tucker. In fact, he took that
(01:12):
time slot very coveted one eight pm on Fox News
from the disgraced hands of Bill O'Reilly, another guy that
at one time I admired highly, at least for his
on air product, for his intellect, for his acumen when
it comes to political analysis, and also historical knowledge. Nobody's
(01:34):
written more books on history from a wider variety of
topics and individuals killing dot dot dot than Bill O'Reilly.
But he couldn't control himself personally with women in the workplace,
and that cost him really his career. And with Tucker,
it seems like this is one of the greatest acts
(01:57):
of self sabotage I've ever witnessed in a person that
I feel should know better.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
And we've talked about this with.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Tucker platforming certain individuals, and Ben Shapiro went into great
detail on this. I closed the Dan Kaplis Show yesterday
by inviting everyone to watch and or listen to Ben
Shapiro's Daily Wire special episode from yesterday in which he
went through and We've got a lot of those clips
(02:29):
here and I'll try to get to them as I
am able.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
But for your own benefit to watch it in its entirety.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It deconstructs this individual who I don't talk about a
lot on this program because I don't like to mainstream
fringe elements who want, I feel our grifters and therefore
liars who are doing something maybe for profit. There's a
motive that I can't ascribe necessarily directly, but there's something off,
(03:00):
something off about this Nick Fuente's character. He comes across
as being a white nationalist, and that would be putting
it mildly, but when I listen to him, I sense
a lack of seriousness and a lack of authenticity. He's young,
you could write it off as he's naive, or he's
(03:22):
looking to draw what I call, I use the pro
wrestling term cheap heat. And this is a villain wrestler
that'll come into the ring and like ravishing Rick Rude
used to do this, or the million dollar man Ted Dbasse.
Jesse Thomas knows what I'm talking about over there and
just like say inflammatory things to the crowd, insulting them,
insulting the town that they're in. They're doing this on
(03:44):
purpose to draw a reaction. Bobby the brain heenan again
very notorious for this. But Bobby Heenen was a good person,
a good man. Ted Dbiassi is a wonderful person, a
very strong man of faith, a Christian, but he's There
was an iconic scene, really brief aside here in which
a young boy was dribbling a basketball and he said,
(04:06):
if you could dribble it ten times in a row,
I'll give you one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And this is back in the eighties. I had a
lot of money, and he kicked the.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Ball away and it was like so egregiously awful. And
I remember there was a photo I think it was
on Facebook and Ted Dibiasi's account years later, I'm talking
maybe a couple of years ago. This little boy, he
might have been six or seven at the time, if
I had to guess, maybe younger even had a reconnection
(04:34):
with Ted Dibiasi all these years later and they took
a photo together.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
So all's well, that ends well there.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But my point being, that's in the world of pro wrestling,
so you're trying to develop these themes and storylines and characters,
and they make money because they go around from city
to city, and one wrestler's the baby faced the good guy, everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Roots for them. Oh Cogan, you know that's sort of person.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
And then you got what made wrestling, in my opinion,
the heels, the bad guys, and what I read from
Nick Fuentas and his conduct, his words, their odious, their offensive,
But it doesn't feel to me like there's a realness
behind it. I could be wrong, and in fact, that
(05:19):
would be a kind read on it, that Nick is
just doing this all for pomp, circumstance and show, trying
to make a fast buck.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
He might be. That's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It is also what it feels like with me with
Candace Owans, who I warned many of you about years ago,
and she was this fresh face, rising star conservative punditry.
Had a job with Ben Shapiro, who I respect highly
and to this day I respect him. But his biggest
blind spot probably the worst decision he's ever made in business.
(05:52):
And I think if he was being honest with you,
with me, with all of us, he would agree with
this was hiring Candace Owans in the first place.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
She's a charlatan, she's a fraud, she's an intellectual knit wit.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
She does not have the moral fiber, the gravitas, the
life experience to really conduct herself in a way that
is both believable, authentic, sincere real, and she's gone off
the deep end grifting.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
And what is the grift? It is anti Zionist, anti Semitic.
This is the far right version of.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Being anti Jewish, and we've seen it on the far left,
but there is an element of it on the far right,
and I don't understand it. I'll never understand it. I
was just raised a different way, especially on my mom's side,
Serbian immigrants, many of whom my bubble lost extended family
members in the Holocaust. You know, there's a nearness, there's
(06:52):
a dearness. There's a real passionate personal part of me
that sees this world through the eyes of Jewish people
and the oppression that they face. I am not Jewish,
but I am a Zionist, and I do believe in
the Judaeo Christian work ethic and the Judeo Christian values.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And morals that undergird are very founding from the very beginning.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And there are those like a nick flent Taste that
would seek to divide and conquer, that would seek to
give kerosene, not just gasoline, but to this burning fire
of rage from younger people in America and specifically younger
white males who are disaffected. And I get that part
of it, and we talk about on this show. But
(07:40):
then there is the blame game of it's all the
Jews' fault. This is dark, it's insidious, it's wrong, and
it bears talking about in greater detail. Today's election day
throughout the United States, and there are very important races
New York City mayor, governor, in New Jersey and Virginia.
We'll be talking about that throughout today. But I wanted
(08:03):
to kind of bookmark this for you, maybe give you
a homework assignment, and have you watch the Monday episode
of Ben Shapiro's program on Daily Wire. What you just
heard off the top was my interview from a couple
of weeks ago with Senator Ted Cruz, again, a man
I admire highly.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I think Ted Cruz is.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
An outstanding representative in our Congress, one of the smartest
intellects ever to serve in that capacity. He was head
of the class at Harvard Law Ellan Dershowitz calls him
the finest student he ever had. Ted Cruz would make
a fine President of the United States. That's how much
I admire this man and his intellect, and that exchange
that he had with Tucker Carlson is both telling and disappointing.
(08:48):
And that is my perception, my view of Tucker. I
don't know what Tucker's up to. I can kind of
explain away, like I just did Nick flent Day's candae Owens. Okay,
they're barking. You know, there's small dogs, there's small fish,
big pond. Tucker's not. And it doesn't really make sense
to me why he would be pushing so far to
(09:12):
the right, why he would be platforming individuals calling themselves
historians who said me that maybe Hitler had a point,
Nazis weren't that bad. In fact, Winston Churchill was the
real villain of World War Two. What Winston Churchill is
one of the greatest forces for good in world history.
(09:34):
But certainly the twentieth century folks, I wouldn't be here,
many of us would not be here if not for
Winston Churchill. Was he perfect? No, His resistance to the
Nazis was paramount in defeating them. Our alliance with Great
Britain and Winston Churchill saved the world from darkness.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And tyranny and evil.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
So the minute that comes out of a person's mouth
that Winston Churchill was the villain of World War two,
I discount anything else they have to say. That's pure idiocy,
that's madness, and that again would be the kindest explanation
for this.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
More on my.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Interview with Ted Cruz from a couple of weeks ago
and the tay to daya that he had with Tucker Carlson,
and Carlson just being out of phase and out of
line with so much of his analysis, and when I
witnessed him putting Nick flintes on his podcast and as
Ben Shapiro points out, not pushing back on him at all.
(10:37):
Just one more line before we do a hard pivot here.
You got to hear this absolutely insane.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So for example, I'll ask a series of wildly obsequious
questions to Nick Flint's He'll even let Nick flints support
for Joseph Stalin slide.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
It's actually funny. It was December eighteenth.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I remember because that's an important date to me, and
as Joseph Stalin's birth, I'm a fan, you're a fan
of Stalinson was an admirer. But we don't need to
go into that. I guess like, let's uh, okay, let's
get back. We'll circle back today.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
But it will grill tad cruise about the population of Iran,
which we just heard, so let that slide and go.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And fun Das has this kind of uh, mischievous grin
on his face when he says I'm a big fan
of Stalin again, it feels like cheap heat, like he
doesn't really believe that, but he's doing it for shock
value and to draw clicks and views and heat and downloads.
But the danger in that is there would be an
individual out there who would take him seriously. You know,
(11:42):
I'm fifty one years old. I lived a lot of life.
I've witnessed a lot of things. I can see a
charlatan when one appears before me, and I believe that
Funtdas is one of those. But a young person who's impressionable,
who doesn't have that that reference point, might hear what
Nick Funte's home I made Stalin wasn't so Stalin was
pure evil A you're kidding me. The Gulags, so many
(12:05):
millions of people died in the Soviet Union on his watch.
They tore down any references to Stalin, even kruz Cheff,
who's not a great guy in his own right, but
what he took, they knew Stalin was horrific. They changed
the name of Stalingrad back to Saint Petersburg. Joining us now,
my good friend Jimmy Sanenberger with the Gazette, and I
(12:27):
want to get a quick take from him on the
ballot measures that have the most impact on the most
people statewide here in Colorado today. There aren't a lot
of them, but this would be one of them. He
joins us now on Ryan Schuling Live, Jimmy, Hello, Hey, Ryan.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
By the way, good commentary. I loved watching and watch
the full Ben Shapiro video, and let me just say
it was tremendous. I actually, though, think that Flantes is
far more serious than Candice Owens or Tucker Carlton. I
think they're both absolutely grifters and have been for years.
(13:02):
But I feel like he may do it in a
joking way at times, but the approach that Wenti takes,
I think has been serious for years and he's a genuine,
anti semi and terrible person. He just sometimes does these
jokes where he's like he knows what he said was
outrageous in the particular format or whatnot, and so we laughs.
(13:25):
But I think he's a real serious actor and a
terrible human being.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Could not agree more.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
And it's time that we call out those on quote
unquote our side.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I don't identify with this person, I don't align myself
with this person, but they're not on the right.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
No, no, And it's important that I think people like you,
people like me, that we do talk about and get
it out there. And I can kind of understand where
you're saying, Nick Flint, da da da. I don't understand
the Tucker part of it, and I'll try to break
that down as the show goes down, but I do
want to get your take on propositions l L and MM.
And you said something at a recent event that really
with me, and I mentioned it on this program, which
(14:01):
is why I wanted to have you on here, because
the way that it is always framed when the politicians
of Colorado come to us with a ballot measure because
they have to through Tabor to raise our taxes, is
they're going to soft pedal it, They're going to package
it instead away, They're going to start something without raising taxes.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But by raising taxes.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Or in this case, we're just going to tax the
really wealthy folks, not you guys. You don't have anything
to worry about. These rich guys over here that we hate.
They never making three hundred grand or more. We're gonna
zap them and make sure that this boondoggle school lunch
program that is falling under the weight of itself gets
more replenished funding so we can keep it going forward.
(14:41):
But Jimmy, you know as well as I do, it
doesn't stop there.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Two thoughts. First, absolutely on the idea of taxing rich
people more, because that's how it's building. In fact, MM
specifically says shall taxes be increased by ninety five million
dollars annually? So on that one, they're very clear to
say taxes would go up, but it's for those making
(15:07):
three hundred thousand dollars or above, and we know that
they have been trying to push on to next year's
ballots the progressives in the state, a so called progressive
income tax or people making above I think it's five
hundred thousand. In that case dollars would pay more, and
we have a flat tax in Colorado, and that's very
intentional This is less explicit in that it's sort of
(15:29):
a roundabout way. Instead, we're going to adjust. In the
case of MM proposition, MM, we're going to adjust the
standard deduction and what you're able to qualify for and
apply to your state taxes, resulting in his tax increase.
It's the clever word games that the left likes to
(15:50):
play to make it more palatable, whereas on LL it's
mostly we're not going to raise taxes, We're going to
just expand what we've done. Well, let's talk about what
they've got. This program, a real money tip for school lunches,
brought in more than one hundred million dollars last year
(16:10):
because they did this slashing of tax deductions for hiring commerners,
but it still also ran a fifty six million dollar deficit.
We have heard it said time and time again. I'm
sure you said it. I've said it. Milton Friedman was
very fond of highlighting this. There's no such thing as
a free lunch, and LL and MM really put a
(16:32):
pin on this point. One final thing. This program is
not about the needy kids who, no matter what, will
get their school lunches covered. It is for other families
that aren't in that kind of diar need. They will
will have an impact on this, but the fact of
the matter is, again, there's no such thing as a
(16:53):
free lunch. And this was one hundred and fifty six
million dollar program that should have been one hundred million
million dollars, and even then is a boondoggle in and
of itself.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Then they'll keep coming back for more taxes and that
threshold will get lower and lower. How about people just
making over two hundred, how about people just making over
one hundred? Guess what's going to be everybody now, So
nip this in the bud. Both Jimmy and I agree
if you're turning your ballots into day hopefully you are,
or maybe you already have hard no on both LLL
and MM a couple of minutes that we've got left here. Jimmy,
you're newest for the Gazette. Union's on full spin in
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school board races, those are being decided today.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
What you got in my gazette column today in the
Denver Gazette, I break down Jefferson County schools, Cherry Creek Schools,
and Denver Public schools and the union shenanigans going on
there in some cases, it's about moving from the candidates
they supported before her incumbents and now endorsing somebody else
(17:51):
to act like that, you know, we got new candidates,
support these candidates instead. In other cases, it's spinning it
as though they're oonents the candidates they didn't endorse, like
in Jefferson County are already on the school board when
only one of them is, and we should blame then
for the failures, never mind the fact that it's a
one hundred percent union backed board already, and it is
(18:14):
the Jeffco Schools mess is the union's mess. And I
contrast those three districts, which happened to be among the
fewer than forty school districts that have collective bargaining that
are fully unionized districts with Douglas County Schools where unionization
is so unpopular that the union candidates are hiding the
(18:35):
fact that they do support collective bargaining, which hasn't been
in the place in doug Cooet schools since twenty twelve,
but their not being open about it and the unions
not being open about it. So there's a lot of
shenanigans going on here. On my bottom line, in today's
Denver Gazette column. From swapping candidates to concealing facts, the
(18:57):
union boss's playbook is deception, and voters would be wise,
as they know our k how audience is to tune
out their spin rin.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
His latest union's on full spin in school board races,
you know not have one on your ballots and Jimmy
Sangenberger writing about it for the Gazette. Jimmy, great stuff.
As always, thank you so much for your time here today.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Once again, Thanks brother.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Talking later, Jimmy Sangenberger right there, and when we come back,
we'll talk to James Flipping seventy seven w ABC News
director about the races in New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
What you make up there.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
But let's not forget since Donald Trump took the presidency again,
illegal crossings are down nine.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
And just as he has.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Secured the border, it's my job to secure in New
Jersey and we do that by getting rid of Sachury
City Century state policy which only encourages illegal immigration.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
We shouldn't be doing this. Sounds good with me.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Jack Chatterrelli, the Republican running once again for governor in
New Jersey, one of three big races that are being
watched nationally tonight on this election night. Back here on
Ryan Shuling Live. He nearly upset Phil Murphy the last
time around four years ago, and this time going up
against Mikey Cheryl the Democrat, and it's going right down
(20:21):
to the wire. Here to talk to us about it,
as well as the mayor's race in neighboring New York City.
He's the news director for seventy seven WABC in New York.
James Flippan joins us for the first time on Ryan
Shuling Live. James, thanks for your time.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Ryan, thanks for having me. Definitely a crazy night here
at the station. It's been a crazy few weeks for
all of us covering these New Jersey and New York races,
and it's down to the final wire. We're just a
few hours away from the polls closing in New Jersey
and then it'll be nine o'clock on the East Coast
when the polls close in New York. So we're counting
down the hours.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Absolutely looking down south to Virginia. We've seen that race
tainted by these very inflammatory texts from Jay Jones running
for Attorney General, and it's serving as an anchor weight,
if not an albatross around the neck of Abigail Spanberger
in her race as a Democrat against Winsome Sears. Has
there been any similar missteps from Mikey Cheryl's campaign that
(21:19):
might open the door for a Chattarelli to win. How
do you break that race down in bullet point fashion?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Yeah, I mean, Mikey Cheryl has not really run much
of a campaign. She basically said, I'm a mom, I
was in the military, and I hate President Trump. That's
more or less what the base of her campaign came
down to. And you know, she did have some missteps
in the sense that there's this ongoing question or sort
of scandal, if you will, concerning her not having walked
(21:49):
in graduation down at the Naval Academy in Annapolis. Now,
supposedly that was connected to her not dining on classmates
who had stolen some test answers. It was a well
known instance in which some test answers have been stolen
in the early nineties. Not a good book for Mikey
Cheryl when she had made the military record such a
key point of her campaign. But I don't really know
(22:11):
how much that moved the needle, To be honest with you, Ryan,
I think one of the bigger problems for Mikey Cheryl
was this interview that she did with Charlemagne the God,
who's obviously a well known radio guy and part of
your parent network there, but he is a guy who
was interviewing Cheryl and basically asked her about some of
this inside trading allegation that everybody in Congress faces, right,
(22:34):
you know, everybody's portfolio does really, really well when they're
in Congress, and she kind of failed to answer the
question with any effective poise. He was asking here, well,
how did you make that money? Is it true that
you made all this money even if it's in your
husband's name, And I'm paraphrasing what she said. It was
a bunch of I don't know, I'm gonna have to
(22:54):
look into that and should have really made that into
a campaign ad that really hit pretty hard and hit
well now well in terms of the numbers. Look, you
mentioned that Phil Murphy Jack Hitdarelli matchup last time. I
was actually covering Phil Murphy's campaign headquarters that night for
one of the iHeart affiliates here in New York, and
that poll was pretty close ahead of time. I think
(23:15):
that Murphy was up by about five or six points
in the last Emerson College poll that came out ahead
of the election night in twenty twenty one. Now, for
Jack Chitdarelli, he trailed Democrat Mikey Cheryl by one point
in that Emerson College poll when the most recent version
came out before this election night, So it's really close.
I think that Chitdarelli basically has just been kind of
(23:36):
banging away at the whole old saw of it's too
expensive to live here in New Jersey. Taxes are too high,
Trenton politicians don't know how to stand up for you,
but I will. And to the E staid that that's
making inroads. It may, but I think for Jackie, for
Mikey Cheryl, I should say she has to worry about
maybe a lack of enthusiasm for her voting base, and
(23:57):
that could be why it's so so close.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
James Clippin keeping an eye on this directly in his
coverage for seventy seven to be ABC in New York.
He's the news director there breaking down the New Jersey
governor's race, seeing what Jack Chedarelli can do, and then
also across the way to New York City and the
mayor's race there, and again this just boggles the mind.
This is a city that not that long ago, I
recognize it's been thirty odd years, but elected a Republican
(24:22):
who cleaned up the city in Rudy Giuliani, a Republican
governor in George Pataki. You did much of the same,
and now they're turning to a borderline communist, a democratic socialist,
as he describes himself, Zeron Mandani.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
And here's his explanation on that.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
What is't the difference between it a democrat, a democratic socialist,
and a communist.
Speaker 9 (24:42):
Well, I'm a democratic socialist who's also a democrat, right,
And when I say I'm a democratic socialist, I explain
it in the words of doctor Kington from decades ago,
who said the call it democracy or call it democratic socialism.
There must be a better distribution of wealth for all
of God's children.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
In this country, right.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
And what I actually find is that when you're speaking
New Yorkers, they ask you less how you describe your politics,
and more whether there's room for them in that politics.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It just seems to me, James, that a lot of
younger people who might be voting for Mum Donnie, don't
really understand the full scope and the scam that is socialism,
call it democratic socialism, rapid, whatever label you want. But
here's Zorn Mamdanni. He's likable, he's a good looking guy.
He smiles a lot. They made fun of him even
(25:26):
for that on Saturday Night Live. He's got his TikTok videos,
he's very online, he's plugged into how young people consume
that information. But when you look under the hood, his
policies are abysmal and they're going to mean disaster for
New York City, and yet it seems like he's on
the verge of victory tonight.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Your thoughts, well, Ryan.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
I mean, there's a few things to break down there.
First of all, the early voting totals were massive in
this election. You had hundreds of thousands of people come
out and participate in early voting, much more so than
what you've had in previous non presidential election years.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
So clearly people.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
In New York are out and voting in this election.
Some of the early voting totals kind of skewed towards
older voters five and up, and some people have suggested
that that could be maybe not so good for mom Donnie, who,
as you alluded to, prefers or he appeals to the
younger voter. He's got the really good TikTok game. His
mom is a Bollywood director, so they know a thing
(26:21):
or two about production value and lighting and camera shots.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And all that.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
But in terms of the overarching point you made Ryan
about democratic socialists versus a democrat, and look, the line
has been totally blurred, especially here in New York City.
And I think that you can probably speak to that
in parts of Colorado, which is, you know, like New Jersey,
sometimes purple, sometimes blue or whatever, and you have this
whole belief amongst people who are left of center that
(26:48):
the socialist ideal is really great and that it can
be worked out and that it hasn't been done the
proper way before or whatever. And in New York you've
had a declining tax base, a taxpayer base that's declining.
People are moving to Florida and Virginia and the Carolinas,
and the math doesn't really add up in terms of
(27:09):
what they want to do with all this socialist program
stuff with Zoorn Mamdani. But I don't think the average
voter pays that close attention to that Ryan. And that's
the problem is that you've got about seventy five percent
registered Democrats here in New York. Most of them probably
are going to pull the lever for the guy that's
got the D next to the name, to the extent
that they're playing really close attention to it. Maybe they're
(27:30):
interested in some of these other candidates, but they're probably
not thinking about how much socialism as a ideal, or
communism or Marxism or whatever has failed in the past
brought a lot of misery to a lot of people.
I just don't think that's part of their thought process.
And the weird thing is, I read an op ed
piece that was talking about this. It's not necessarily the
(27:51):
super indigen or poor or poverty stricken that are feeling
this way. It's people that are actually, generally speaking, doing
okay for themselves, but they feel they don't have as
much as the investment banker down the street, as the
corporate attorney down the street, or whatever it may be.
And it's this whole haves have not sort of weird
class warfare thing that's driving a lot of the appeal
(28:13):
of socialism in a place like New York.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Find out more online their website WABC Radio dot com.
He is James Flippin, News director Verse seventy seven WABC
in New York, keeping a close eye on both of
these races, the New York City Mayor's race and the
New Jersey Governor's race. We'll find out the winner tonight. James,
Thank you so much for your time, great analysis, and
we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Thank you, Ryan.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
We'll keep it posting, all right.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
James Flippin, right there your thoughts on these races and
what it means for the rest of the country. Will
there be a strong anti Trump contingent that comes out
to vote in full force, not just for Moumdanie, we
know that, but then also for Mikey Cheryl. And then
what is the factor that Trump plays in the New
York City Mayor's race where he kind of a soft served,
a quasi lukewarm endorsement of Andrew Cuomo. Does that help
(28:59):
her Cuomo? In my opinion, it hurts them. But we'll
find out more as the electure results come in later
this evening. This time out wrapping up our one Ryan
Schuling live on this Tuesday. After this, it's time once
again for another edition of Trump's hot takes, turning the
forty seventh president's epic interactions with the fake news media.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
But with cleaning up our cities.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
You know, I campaigned on crime, but I've done a
much better job in crime than I said.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
You know, the crime numbers.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Are way down, even though we have a lot more
people in our country that really shouldn't be here, and
many of them are stone cold hard criminals. When I
look at d C now, you can walk down the
middle of the street. You can have your daughter who's
ten years old meet you at the park.
Speaker 10 (29:47):
She's going to be Okay, can shut with murders?
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Well most well certain you tell me how big a
difference is DC now compared to what it was in
your income, right, I mean, you have to be honest
with me.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
People look people in the White House.
Speaker 10 (30:03):
They woke up to me, young ladies I've never seen sir,
thank you very much. I know they don't even have
to tell me what they're thanking me for. But when
I asked why, he said, she one knows that I'd
get into Uber, and I felt dangerous.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Even in Uber, they'd attacked the car.
Speaker 10 (30:19):
Okay, it wasn't even saying that sirry now walked to
work every day and I walk.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I'm so safe.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
There's nothing going to happen, one hundred percent safe. And
you know that too.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I want to ask you about it. You live here,
you know that too. I want to ask you about
a difference American city difference in Washington d C. I
think I've been working too hard.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
I haven't been out and.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
About I'm not a fair answer. You see, I get
in my car and go to work, and I go hard.
I have to use that one. Don't don't worry. I've
been working.
Speaker 10 (30:46):
It's like you know what the difference is, like day
and night.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Masterful exchange their President Trump turned that interview right on
its head and tried to press Norah O'Donnell into answering
the quest estion. She tried to just dismiss it out
of hand. Oh, I live in DC. Okay, then do
you notice a difference. Oh, I'm not really paying attention.
I just driving to work and I don't look. And
I've been too busy, and like bullblank. President Trump called
(31:14):
her out. She's got nothing because she knows he's right. Washington,
DC is far safer. And I believe that he's been
getting that feedback from people because I've witnessed it. There's
been all kinds of videos posted on social media showing
that result night and day.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
As he just said, go.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
To the tax five seven seven three nine, Ryan, it's
not just young people who go for the democratic socialist thing.
I know, it's part of senders. There's a lot of
people out there. It's me, it's Marco Rubio, it's Ted Cruz,
it's immigrants to this country whose ancestors escaped communism. It's
derivation they're in socialism. And the fact that so many
(31:59):
in the main street media don know it's not communistment
should get your Socialism's representative of Byron Donald's tangling with
lower Coach of CNN on this topic.
Speaker 11 (32:11):
When you put in communists and yes, communist policies, that's
what Zauraman Donnie is talking about.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Communist socialist. He says, I can't tell what the difference is. Well,
he can display with the differences, he can describe differences
for you.
Speaker 11 (32:24):
The socialism is not the same basis of communism in
this country.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
You know that question.
Speaker 11 (32:28):
The man wants to create the man wants to create
government run grocery stars. He wants free transportation, both of
which are impossible to do.
Speaker 9 (32:35):
Because he is a trigger word to undermine all his policies.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
He's not, he says, I.
Speaker 11 (32:40):
Don't need to I don't need to undermine his policies.
His policies undermine.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Himself because they've never worked.
Speaker 11 (32:46):
Here's what I want him to do. Tell me where
they've ever worked. They've never worked. He knows that, I
knows that. But what he's trying to do is promise
everybody something that they can't have. And the truth is,
there is no free lunch, just like there's no free
buy because you know what happens when you have a
free bus, there's nobody there to fix it or to
drive it. He knows that, I know that. You know
(33:06):
that America does know it. And it's unfortunate that the
city of New York, my former Solme city, is probably
gonna have to go through this.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
There's a reason why people are floating over on rafts
made from the doors of fifty seven chevies in Cuba
to come here. They're not fleeing or flocking to go
to Venezuela, Cuba, Communist China.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
If it was so great, why doesn't it work? And
if it worked.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Why don't people flee the United States and go to
these countries where these wonderful socialist policies are in place.
Because it's all a scam and it's a bill of
goods being sold right now by Zora Mamdani.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
And I'm telling you he wins tonight
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Which is likely that city is going under and people
will flee out of the city.
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