Sports On Deck 11-11 - Craig Counsell The Villain?

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Episode Transcript

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You were listening to Sports on Deckwith Dave Gasper. Welcome to Sports on
Deck with Dave Gasper here on thirteenten Wiba, I am Dave Gasper.
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and it has been a busy weekfor me on the social media and just

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in general here in the world ofsports. As everyone really knows by now,
Craig Council is now the manager ofthe Chicago Cubs. Oh excuse me
that, Oh there's a there's abitter taste in my mouth. Oh that's
It feels so weird to say.It really does, and it's going to

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feel even weirder when we finally seeit in action next year. But Craig
Council came down with his decision abouthis managerial future, and of all the
places he could go, Craig Councilchose the Chicago Cubs. He chose the
one team that would sting the Brewersthe most. And now is Craig Counsel

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the villain? Is Craig Counsel thevillain in this story? It sure seems
that way. It sure does.Really, over the last two months,
the Brewers seemed to be operating ingood faith and doing everything right. They

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gave him the space that he wantedto think about his future. They allowed
him to interview early before his contractran out with other teams. They did
everything that he was asking. Andin turn, Council meets in secret with
the Chicago Cubs. He does notgive the Brewers an opportunity to match the

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Cubs offer. That's very important.He did not give them a chance to
match. He calls the Cubs hisdream job and how he wanted a new
challenge in Chicago. That's just turningaround and spitting in the face of the
Brewers. That's turning around, givingthe double bird and saying, screw you,

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guys, I'm out of here.After everything they've been through, after
everything the fans, the team,the community have been through with Craig Counsel
as a player, as a manager, all these playoff appearances, after everything

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together, it's like, okay,fine, we'll give you a chance to
look around. Just give us anopportune unity to match the top offer.
And he didn't do that, andhe went right to the place that would
hurt the most, to me,to everybody else. Craig Counsel is the

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villain in this. This is alevel of betrayal that we haven't seen before.
Even when Brett Favre went to theMinnesota Vikings, it was nowhere near
like this. It was nowhere nearas bad as this feels right now.

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It's been an emotional couple of daysas everyone just kind of tries to figure
out the whole story of what happened. And frankly, I think at this
point we're not going to be gettingany more details about the story. Craig
is going to be moving on.He said, whatever pieces he wants to
The Burgers have said their pieces,and they're going to be moving on with
their manager search trying to find someoneto replace Craig Council. So we may

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not get the full story, butas it stands right now, Craig Council
is the villain. When the ChicagoCubs come to American Family Field on May
twenty seventh next year, a MemorialDay, is the first time the Cubs
come to Milwaukee next year, CraigCouncil is going to get booed relentlessly.

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You can feel it. You knowit. Whether you think it's fair or
not, that Craig Counsel is goingto get booed. I'm just telling you
as a straight up fact, hewill. He will get booed loudly by
this fan base. And it's becauseof how this went down and who he
went to. If he had goneanywhere else, with the exception of possibly

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Saint Louis, if he had goneanywhere else, Bruce fans will be happy
for him. Go get your money, go get the big contract, do
what you gotta do. If hehad gone to New York, if he
had gone to Cleveland, if hehad gone to Houston, if he had
gone anywhere else, it would havebeen fine. I really truly believe it
would have been. If he'd havegiven the Brewers a chance to match,

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and the Brewers chose not to,and he just took the best offer.
We all would understand. We would, all of us if given a better
offer elsewhere, we'd take it.Right. Craig Council got eight million dollars
per year, and the Bruers offeredhim five and a half. And to
be fair to the Brewers, whatthey offered him was still the top mark

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for a manager in baseball, thetop salary last year for a manager was
four and a half million. TheBruers offered him five and a half.
It's a pretty good offer. There'snothing wrong with that offer. I don't
fault Mark on Nausio for that offer. I also don't vault Craig Council for
going out and seeking to get more, seek some leverage. Someone else might
offer you six. Well, that'sthat's a lot of extra money. So

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that's leverage to up the offer.And Chicago Cubs ended up offering him eight.
And if all of us blindly hadto be given a choice between five
and a half million year and eightmillion year, we'd take the eight.
But still what makes us hurt isnot the money. The reason why Brewers
fans are upset and why they willboo counsel that every time that they see

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him for the next several years isn'tabout the money. We recognize the money,
we recognize the business of baseball,but also you have to recognize the
context. One's solely looking at thecontract and saying, oh, well,
you'd all take that money too,You're missing the context. You're missing the
point. The point is that thiswas the one place that he could go

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that would intentionally hurt the Brewers themost. Where you know, it's an
emotional gut punch to see him gothere and to not even be given the
chance to match. And then hecalls the Cubs his dream job, dream
job. Craig Council grew up inWhitefish Bay. He grew up a Brewers

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fan. His dad worked for theBrewers. He played for the Brewers for
years when he was named manager.Do you remember the video Born a Brewer?
Craig Council's narrating videos about how hewas born and raised here and how
being the Brewers is his dream opportunityand trying to get a World Series to

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this city that has never won one. Craig Council was one of us in
the community. He was one ofus. He had achieved the dreams of
every kid growing up around here,every place in the suburbs, every place

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in the city, everyone watching upgrowing up watching Brewer games. He's lived
out that dream. And then totake it and just completely turn your back
on them and go to the teamthat you know is intentionally going to hurt

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that fan base and that team themost. It's a shot. It is
a shot. Below the belt andthere has to be something that happened here.
What it is, I don't know. The relationship between Craig Council and

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management appeared to be normal from everyonein the know, from everyone who's been
around it. Everything seemed fine betweenCouncil and the Brewers. But now we're
starting to see something about where theBrewers did something in this relationship that caused
Craig Counsel to do something like this, because he knew this was a shot

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and he did it anyways, whichtells me he's upset about something in this
organization. There is something that hasgone wrong that caused Craig Counsel to do
something like this, because for allwe've known about Council throughout the years is
about him being loyal, loyal tohis roots, loyal to who he is,

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and just being the good, downto earth, saw of the Earth
kind of guy, the scrappy player, scrappy manager that just lives and breathes
baseball, Brewers Baseball. He wasours, He was one of us,
and he chose to leave. Ifhe's going to leave, who would stay?

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That's my question? Now, who'sgoing to stay? If even Craig
Counsel who has the most reasons ofanybody to stay, doesn't want to stay
and intentionally picks the spot that wouldhurt the team the most for his new
job. There's something that happened here. There is something that happened. There

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has to be. It's the oldinglogical explanation. If you're happy in your
job, you wouldn't do something likethis, like when it comes to the
Rays. You know, the bigRays over what the Brewers offered. If
you're happy where you are, ifyou're happy with your coworkers, with your

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bosses, with the things that you'redoing, if you're happy in your job,
and that other giant offer comes in, what you're going to do at
the very least is go to yourboss and be like, hey, man,
look I like it here, Ireally do. But I got this
offer that came in. I'd bestupid not to take it. Are you

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at least going to match it?Could you match it? Then maybe I'll
stay And then the boss chooses toeither match it or not match it,
and you make your decision from there. But Council didn't do that. He
got his chance to bolt and heleft. But we don't know what it

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is that the Brewers did wrong.From the outside, it doesn't look like
the Brewers did anything wrong. Everythingover the past couple of months, the
Brewers have done exactly to what CraigCouncil wanted. They gave him the space,
they gave him everything. Was itsomething before? Was it the Josh
Hater trade that upset him and causedhim to want to maybe? But until

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he tells us that, we're nevergoing to know, and the perception of
Council is not going to change untilwe do. No Counsel is the villain
as it stands right now, andunless he tells it, unless he gives
us a reason to think otherwise,he is going to remain the villain.

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The Brewers are not totally blameless inthis. I think that there's got to
be something going on there. Butas it stands, the perception is Craig
Counsel is the villain, and heis going to forever be the villain because
he's not going now that he's themanager of the Cubs. He's not going

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to come up and be like,oh, yeah, this is what the
Brewers did that made me want toleave. That's not the kind of guy
that he is. So we're nevergoing to know what it was unless he
tells us otherwise. Craig Council isthe villain, and he will remain the

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villain. He will remain getting booedat American Family Field year after year after
year. Time may heal all wounds, but this was a stab in the
back. At least that's how itfeels, a stab in the back with
the knife dug in and twisted.It's going to take a long time for

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this wound to heal, a verylong time, and even when it does,
there's going to be a massive scarleft behind coming up now that Craig
Council is gone. Who could endup managing the Milwaukee Brewers. We'll get
into some candidates next. You're listeningto Sports on Deck with Dave Gasper here
on thirteen to ten. Wiba tillshe bound what she'd been looking for,

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and I knew it wasn't me.I sound goodbye around, don't think God
change. Sports on Deck with DaveGasper rolls on here as the Burgers saw

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goodbye in Craig Council's eyes. Overthe past two months, it's so crazy
to me how this all came down, and how Craig Council told Mark att
Nauseo in early September that he wasthinking about managing for another team next year.
Remember, he had been waffling kindof all throughout the season and should

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I take a year off, shouldI manage some more? What am I
to do? And he told himthat he had settled on managing next year
in early September, including potentially managingelsewhere, because he wanted to reset the
market for managers and how they getpaid. And it just makes you wonder.

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As the Brewers are in a Pennantrace, they are trying to lock
down and win the division. They'rein a close battle with the Cubs.
They're trying to make it to theWorld Series for the first time since nineteen
eighty two, and their manager isthinking about, huh, how about managing

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for some other team next year?I could manage the Cubs, right,
what about the Mets? I couldmanage Cleveland. He's sitting there in the
middle of Pennant Race thinking about otherteams he could manage. It really makes
you wonder about some of those decisionsthat he made about Jesse Winker being on

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the roster. Did that happen becauseCraig Council had one foot out the door.
Is that why we saw Jesse Winkerget at bats in the playoffs?
You know, that's a that makesa lot of sense. Now, actually,
did Craig count I'm putting on youknow, the tenfol a half here.

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Did Craig Council want the the Brewers'playoff run to end as soon as
possible so we could get moving onhis move to Chicago and finding the best
spot to get the most money inChicago? Is that what happened? I
don't I don't think Craig Council wouldintentionally tank it. I don't think he
would intentionally tank it. But ifyour mind is on some other job,

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then the one that you currently have, you're not going to be given at
your your on you're not committed tothe job you currently have, Which is
how you could make such a decisionlike putting Jesse Winker on the playoff roster.
Explains a lot, it really does, all right, So now to
the business at hand for the MilwaukeeBrewers. Now that Craig Council has decided

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to leave, who is going tomanage the Brewers are one of three remaining
teams in Major League baseball without amanager. The Astros do not have one
lined up yet, and the Padresdo not have one lined up, so
they got to find a manager.They're a bit late to the party.

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They were the last team to findout that they have a managerial vacancy.
And Matt Arnold has stated that hehas a long list of candidates that he
is looking at, that he's playingit close to the vest. We don't
really know too many of the namesthat are on that list. One of
them is confirmed, however, andthat is Pat Murphy, the longtime Brewers

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bench coach. He has received multipleinterviews by now already he is in very
real consideration for the manager job.To also expect the Murphy will be offered
a job on Chicago's staff as CraigCouncil's bench coach down there if he does
not get the job here. SoPat Murphy is a candidate, and I

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think he's a logical candidate for theBrews to look at. He is well
respected in the Brewers clubhouse and hewould continue, he would he would keep
continuity essentially in the Brewers coaching staff. So that I think does make a
lot of sense. This is goingto be a younger group coming through,

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so maybe they would want to gowith someone younger, but if they want
to keep some continuity, Pat Murphywould be the easy choice to go with.
However, there are several other candidatesthat we also have to consider.
Let's let's continue with with some ofthe internal candidates. Here are the names

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that that I've been hearing out there. Matt Erickson, former Brewers player.
He's he was the long time managerof the Wisconsin Timber Radlers. The Brewers
a ball affiliate. He's been acoach in the system for quite some time.
I think there's a very real chancehe could earn some consideration and maybe

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be a manager in waiting. Ithink Ericson might be a kind of a
similar vein to Craig counsel and interms of, you know, being a
player, being in the organization forso long, I think he's earning of
at least a shot. There isQuentin Barry, Brewers first base coach.
I've heard his name mentioned as apossible managerial candidate as well. Walker mckinvin,

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who most fans probably are not awareof. He's a Brewer's pitching,
catching, and strategy coach. He'sbeen a big part of the success with
catching developments and and the pitching success. And he's kind of a young,
up and coming coach that the Brewersare really high on. I've heard of

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him as a dark horse candidates outthere. Ricky Weeks also earned a mention
as a managerial candidate. He justgot promoted as as a special assistant in
player development in the Brewer's front office, so he's hanging around. He's kind
of doing the Craig Council role,working in the front office after his playing
days are over. I don't thinkRicky Weeks would be a great fit,

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though it might be fun. Mightbe fun to see Ricky Weeks back and
in the manager chair, But Idon't think Weeks would make a great manager.
There's nothing about him as a playerthat really kind of screamed to me
or anyone else, Yeah, thisguy is a future big league manager.
There was nothing Craig Council you couldtell he was a future manager one day.

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Ricky Weeks not so much. Notso much. But those are some
of the internal candidates that the Brewershave to work with. I think Pat
Murphy is the favorite of that group, but I probably put Matt Erickson a
second right behind him. I thinkhe would be a very solid choice for
the Bruce to go with. Butthere's also the external candidates. They're going
to be casting a wide net andtrying to get the best person that they

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can for the job. Among theexternal candidates, we know Don Mattingly is
one under consideration. Donnie Baseball,as many of you may remember him,
he was a manager for the Dodgersfor a number of years, and then
he managed the Miami Marlins. AndI know a lot of people have pointed
out that Don Manningly hasn't had awinning record as a manager since twenty fifteen,

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and yes, that is correct.But those Marlins teams, he really
had nothing to work with, tobe completely honest, to be completely fair,
he really had nothing to work withdown there in Miami. The lack
of success in Miami was not onhim. You know. Mark Kottsee is
the manager of the Oakland A's andhis record is all Is that really on
Mark Cottsee though, Like he's reallygot nothing to work with out there,

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So I don't blame Knsee, Idon't blame maddingly for his record with the
Marlins. Mattingly is well respected byhis players. He is experienced as a
manager, and I think he coulddo a whole lot worse than getting Don
Mattingley. I think that would bea solid choice. It may not be

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you know, the flashy kind ofhigher, but it is solid. It
is some name recognition and it isit is veteran experience in that manager's chair.
So Don Mattingley currently the bench coachfor the for the Toronto Blue Jays,
I believe you just got promoted tooffensive coordinator as well. So I

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mean, the Toronto Blue Jays havean offensive coordinator and the Pittsburgh Steelers don't.
What a world we live in?This has been a Matt Canada joke.
Anyways, moving on, Joe Espada, the bench coach of the Houston
Astros. He's another name that's reportedlyunder consideration. The Astros still do have

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an open manager job that Aspata isbelieved to be a strong candidate for.
And if he doesn't get that job, he's probably out as bench coach,
so he may want to look atthe Burgers. Then potentially Troy Snitker,
the co hitting coach down there inHouston as well. He's young, but
you know, as a hitting coachfor Houston. Houston has been a pretty

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good offensively the past couple of years, even beyond the trash can incidents.
But Troy Snicker, the son ofBrian Snicker, the manager for the Atlanta
Braves, he's a name under consideration. Then there's Clayton McCullough. He's the
first base coach of the Los AngelesDodgers, and McCullough he does not have

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name recognition in terms of what fansknow about him. But Clayton McCullough,
he worked his way up in thefarm system for the Blue Jays and now
he's out in Los Angeles, andhe is well renowned for his work with
young players, with younger players,getting them adjusted to Major League Baseball.

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And I think that could lean quitea bit in Clayton McCullough's favor for the
Brewers' manager job, because they havea lot of young guys. We saw
it with the freshmen this year withMitchell and Frielich and Weimer and Terrang and
Monasterio. Then you know, comingup, you've got Jackson, Cherio,
You're gonna have Jefferson, Caro,Robert Gasser, Carlos Rodriguez, Jacob Minzroowski,

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you've got a lot of young guyscoming up, You've got a top
farm system, and you got toget these young guys acclimated to big league
baseball because a lot of these youngguys this past year they struggled, especially
offensively. Bryce Terrang struggled, JoeyWeimer struggled Selfeelick had some struggles. Garrett
Mitchell, well he got hurt,but you had some struggle with this group.

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Clayton McCullough I think would make awhole lot of sense. There's gonna
be a youth movement here in Milwaukee, and a guy who works really well
with young players like McCullough would makea ton of sense For manager. Will
Venable is another name under consideration thatI think would make a lot of sense.
He was the associate manager for theTexas Rangers who just won the World

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Series. So if you want someonewith postseason success, there you go Will
Venable. He's kind of been amanager in waiting for quite a bit.
Jeff Banister is another name that Ikind of like. He was the Diamondbacks
bench coach this past year, soanother World Series coach. He previously had
the gig As. The Texas Rangersmanager, and he's the guy with experience.

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He's got experience winning in the postseason, so I think he would make
a ton of sense as well.I'd be happy with that higher and that.
One more name I kind of likeI want to bring up and mention
is Mark de Rosa. He wasa longtime player across several teams and now
he's an analyst for MLB Network.Now I know TV analysts turned manager,

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It's like, okay, what really? But Mark de Rosa, he has
been a name in managerial interview circlesfor a couple of years now, and
he wanted to actually get some managingexperience before he actually took any of these
manager jobs because that was kind ofthe one knock on him. So he
managed Team USA in the World BaseballClassic this past year, so he's got

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some managing under his belt. Maybethe Brewers don't want to go that route,
but he's someone who's very smart whoI mean, every time you see
him talk about this team, hegushes about the players that the Brewers have
and in the organization. So he'ssomeone that I think also could make a
lot of sense. So those arereally kind of the candidates that I'm seeing
right now, that's about twelve candidatesfor brew as manager. It could be

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one of these guys. It couldbe none of these guys. It could
be someone completely off the wall thatwe weren't even thinking about. But of
this group, the top three candidates, the way I would put them right
now, I'd have Pat Murphy,I'd have Don Manningley, and i'd have
Clayton McCullough. Though, those aremy top three choices for Brewers manager,

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whoever that's going to be, thoseare my top three right now. All
of the guys that we know arein consideration. I'm curious what you think.
I'm curious if you think it's goingto be one of those three,
one of those three guys, orif it's somebody else, someone else that
catches your eye, someone that Ididn't even mention. Let me know.
I'm I'm at de gasper twenty fouron Twitter. Send me a message and

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be like, hey, man,I think it's gonna be this guy.
I think it's gonna be Quentin Berry. I think it's gonna be Mark de
Rosa. I think it's gonna besomebody else. Why not go get cash
You're not gonna get Kevin Cash.But still you got ideas, send it
my way. I would love tosee who you guys are thinking for manager

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and who it could possibly be.The the rumors and the interviews are going
to be going on for quite abit and we'll see, hopefully soon who
the next Brewis manager is going tobe. I got to get to a
break when we come back. TheGM meetings said that Brewers could be willing

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to trade pretty much anybody. Isa total rebuild incoming. We'll talk about
that next year on Sports on Deckwith Dave Gasper here on thirteen ten,
Wiba to begin around them all.I've got news for you still, godle

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to do Sports on Deck with Dayof guestsper rolls on here on your Saturday.
Coming up in just a bit,we are going to have college football.
It's got some Badgers taken on theNorthwestern Wildcats. Hopefully hopefully we got

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a nice big win in coming there. But still talking Brewers with you here
for a little bit on Sports onDeck, because there's just so much to
talk about with this team and withwhat's going on and the future of this
franchise, really, because where thedirection is headed now, no one really
seems to know. The organization stillseems in shock about the departure of Craig

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Council. They have to get amanager in place, and their core is
getting ready to leave. Corbyn Burns, Willie Domas, Brandon Woodruff are all
entering their final years of team control. Now. Brandon Woodriff is going to
miss pretty much the entire twenty twentyfour season with an injury, so that

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leaves Burns and a damis as totrade candidates essentially, but with Woodroff injured,
it's trading Burns really a smart move. I would argue that it's not
because if you're trying to compete intwenty twenty four, which the Brewers say

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that they are, wouldn't having acy young winner on your team help You
just lost your coace to injury.Wouldn't it make sense to keep your other
healthy coace on the roster. Wouldn'tthat make some sense to you? It

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makes sense to me if you're tryingto win having him on your roster.
Having Burns on your roster makes sense, it does, I understand. Oh,
well, if you trade him nowyou can get something more for them.
Okay, how does that help youwin? Though? How does that

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help you win. Now, theBrewers have a lack of pitching depth right
now. Okay, they have losta number of guys. You have Eric
Lauer that's a free agent because hefell off the earth this year. Wade
Miley is a free agent. BrandonWoodruff isn't going to be able to pitch
next year. This is a teamthat desperately needs to add to its starting

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rotation. They just signed back ColinRay for three and a half million dollars.
We are looking right now at ColinRay as the number four starter coming
into the season. As it standsright now, Colin Ray as your number
four starter, that's got to change. You need to get at least two

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more, and if you have tradeaway Burns, you gotta get three more.
In a market where pitching is superexpensive because everyone's looking for pitching,
there's gonna be a decent amount ofpitchers on the free agent market, but
not that many, and the trademarket is going to be saturated with them.
So yes, you could trade Burnsand you could get a nice,

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big houl because the market is sonice. But unless you're getting two great
starters back, it doesn't help youany And whatever starters you get back for
Corbyn. Burns are not going tobe as good as Corbyn Burns is.

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They're just not. So you're leftin a no win situation essentially, And
then we get Craig. Then weget Ken Rosenthal's report the GM meetings that
the Brewers are willing to listen toquote virtually anyone end quote on their roster,
virtually anyone they think a teardown iscoming. They traded away Mark Canna

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for a minor league reliever. Moreteardowns in coming. I don't know if
I don't know if trading Marcanna reallycounts as a teardown. Yes, I
would have liked to see his optionpicked up, but the Brewers it looked
like we're going to decline it.They were planning on him being a rental
and instead of paying him a twomillion dollar buyout, they traded him to

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get a reliever, traded him toDetroit, some team that would pick up
his option, and that was that. Of course, now you have a
problem at first base that you needto solve because Rowdy Tellez just ain't it.
He's not it. So where areyou gonna go there? Where are

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you gonna go in the starting rotation. Where are you gonna go with third
base? According to Rosenthal, therecould be a bunch of trades from this
big league roster. It could bea reset and a retool for twenty twenty
four and try to be competitive intwenty twenty five. But I will say
this, if this actually happens,the Milwaukee Brewers will have to come out

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and acknowledge that they are taking astep back because you can't go through this
offseason and you trade Freddy Peralta andtry to tell everyone, yes, we're
going to be competing for a anEL Central title and competing for the World
Series this next year. Because you'renot. No one's gonna believe you.

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Freddy Peralta is being named as atrade candidate. There is no reason to
trade me. He is under longterm control for a couple more years for
very cheap, and he's a veryvery good starting pitcher. Yes, you
can get a haul, but youshouldn't be thinking about getting a Hall for
him, because he's the guy youneed on the roster in order to remain

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any semblance of competitive If they tradeFreddy Peralta, If they do these these
selloffs, the Brewers will have tocome out and acknowledge a change in direction
that they are taking a step back, because they have said time and again
they won't do that, that theywill not enter into a rebuild, they

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will stay continuously competitive. If that'schanging, they have to come out and
say it. I don't see ithappening. I don't see a selloff coming.
Maybe they move one of Burns ora Damas. Maybe they do.
I could see a Damis getting moved. Honestly, I think he's the most

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likely because this is a terrible marketfor shortstops. This is a terrible market
for position players. So you gotsomeone like a Damas who plays a premium
position, who even though he hada down year, still hit twenty four
bombs, still is a really goodhitter for his position. You could get

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a haul for Willie Damas because everyonethat missed out on the top shortstops last
year, anyone who's in search ofone now they're looking at a terrible market.
So they will pay through the noseto get a Damis, even if
it's just for one year. Itgives them a great chance at signing him
to an extension. I could seea Domas going Then you can just easily

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plug and play Bryce Terrang at shortstop. Yes, you may take a hit
offensively, but defensively you lose absolutelynothing. And offensively, I do think
Bryce Terrang is going to improve.I think he will get better next year.
So that's the route I could seethem taking. I could see a
Willia Domas trade trading, Burns trading, Freddy trading. Yelich was mentioned.

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Yelich isn't going anywhere. I don'tsee any of those things happening. It's
gonna make for a wild offseason,though, in terms of rumors, in
terms of what the Brewers actually do, I don't think the Brewers even know
yet what they're what they want todo. So we will see it.
Time will tell a few more minutesleft. You're gonna wrap things up after

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the break. You're listening to Sportson Deck with Dave Gasper here on thirteen
ten wiba this lifew league for thefameal So you won't f for me.

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Somebody's gonna give you a lesson andeven somebody gonna give you back that you've
been giving an album. Then onaround Sports on Deck with Dave guess Her
rolls on here for just a littlebit longer I'm playing the leaving songs this
time. I am. I'm sorry, but it's it hurts still. The

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breakup songs are are what we haveto describe what's been going on with Craig
Counsel and the Brewers. Lesson andleaving and just leaving for for the one,
one person, the one team.You can't stand to see them with
stings hurts. Just a few moreminutes left here with you on your Saturday,

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on your college football Saturday. Iknow we've been talking a lot of
Brewers, but we have Wisconsin Badgersfootball coming up, the Badgers taking on
Northwestern, and yes, they're comingoff a disappointing loss against Indiana last week,
and you know, it was sotough to watch that game and hopefully

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it's going to be a bounce backhere today against Northwestern. That coming up
in just a little bit with thelocal pregame show with Reed Magnum and Ben
Wargle starting at ten thirty, that'sgonna be a lot of fun. Those
guys are going to take you inthe rest of the way and then it's
going to go into Mike Keller andI'm going to get the games started.

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Matt Lapey and kickoff at two thirty. So it's going to be a lovely
college football Saturday. The weather's gettingcold, and it's time to play.
So Wisconsin, they were having abit of a disappointing season. I think
given the expectations. The expectations werequite high for Wisconsin, and you know,

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especially coming into the year, it'slike, Okay, you know,
lost to Washington State, that's tough. Okay, lost to Ohio State,
lost to Iowa that really stings.Indiana though, that's where I mean,
this team still has a little bitmore to go. You can see some
of the good things, some ofthe changes, but there I mean,

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you've had years where recruiting just wasn'tit when you're seeing a playout on the
roster now, it's going to takesome time to get Wisconsin up and running
in the Luke Fickle era. Andyou know, this season hasn't been as
great as everyone was hoping it wouldbe. But that doesn't mean there aren't
a lot of good things about thisseason. So hopefully we'll have some good

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things tonight this afternoon with Wisconsin takingon Northwestern. I amount of time.
Thank you for listening, and againbe sure to follow me on Twitter Anti
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see as the next Milwaukee Brewers manager. Thank you for listening. This has

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been Sports on Deck with Dave Gasperhere on thirteen ten WIBA. I'm thinking
and I'm thinking, and then everysomeday somebody's gonna give you a lesson and
lose and somebody he's gonna do what