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It's Tennessee Matters on the Tennessee RadioNetwork. Welcome to Tennessee Matters. I'm
John Clark or the Tennessee Radio Network. The mission of the Tennessee Wildlife Resources
Agency is to preserve, conserve,manage, protect, and enhanced the fish
and wildlife of the state and theirhabitats for used benefit and enjoyment of the
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citizens of Tennessee and their visitors.Tennessee Wildcast features Jason Harmon and Don King.
They bring in a variety of guests, covering a huge array of outdoor
content from fishing and hunting to boating, wildlife watching, and wildlife management.
They are my guests on today's program. Well, you guys, I'm glad
to have you guys in here todaybecause you do a podcast. I want
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to hear aboutch of podcasts. Firstof all, I'll talk about your podcasts.
Well, I get to I'm DonDon King. I get to host
with Jason. Jason's kind of theflagship of our podcast here at the Wildlife
Agency, and it's been going great. He and Doug Markham started it back
in two thousand fifteens there, right, Jason, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We were firing it up about thattime. Yeah, So so it's
been it's been great. Uh,We've we've reached a lot of people.
And uh, I mean Jason takesit from. Uh, I'm a little
bit more involved in the production side, I guess, and Jason's more in
the Uh. He takes it fromwhen we finish it and gets it out
there and does the a lot ofthe marketing through social media, all the
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all the platforms that you're very familiarwith. And uh, and we're we're
blessed enough to have about thirty radiostations across Tennessee that carry our our podcast
right now, plus some local communityTV stations pick up on it. That's
fantastic. So yeah, yeah,we've had a lot of fun with it.
Man, Now what do you talkabout? People call you up,
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people call you up, and peoplecalling you've guessed it all two. Yeah.
Yeah. I reach out to tryto find folks, uh in the
agency or in in the outdoor industry, you know, and have them come
in and and just talk hunting,fishing, boating, just about anything outdoors
we'd like to say. And uh, from time to time we'll have an
artist come in and sing a songor two and talk about their writing.
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And we are in Music City.Yeah, well you are, It's true.
Yeah, you are here in MusicCity. Yeah yeah. So you
got to incorporate a little bit ofmusic when you're when you're in the heart
of it. So it's fun tohave guests come in and sing a song
and talk about their hunting trips orfishing trips. Yeah yeah, yeah.
So it's and then you know,on the agency side of things, it's
what the agency's doing, you know, it's what the biologists are out there
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studying, what the habitat guys areputting on the ground for the wildlife,
and it's, uh, it's allabout what we do well. A lot
of the seldom scene stuff, youknow, because a lot of a lot
of the folks around our states seeour wildlife officers out there doing their thing,
you know, whether they be workingboating on the weekend, or or
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checking fishing licenses or or you know, checking in with hunters. But there's
a whole lot more folks that workfor our agency that are that are doing
the number crunching behind the scenes.And you know, one thing unique about
our agency is that we aren't uhwe're self funded, basic and it's the
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license buyers that fund what we're ableto do in the way of conservation,
so you know, and that's theway with a lot of states around the
country, and a lot of peopledon't really realize that. They think,
oh, yeah, I'm spending taxmoney and that's what you guys used to
do your thing, And that's notthe case. It's it was decided many
many years ago that the North AmericanUH Wildlife Plan was that that you know,
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license sales would support the conservation efforts. And thank thankfully in Tennessee,
there are a lot of folks thatsupport us in that way. Yeah,
there there are. Right now,we're we're still in outdoor season, but
right we'll go on from a couplemore months now and boating is Hunt's coming
up. Fishing, but boating andfishing right now or the big and we
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wished to big talk about. Soeverybody talks about. Everybody calls you about.
What do they call about? Askyou about their boats? They do?
They ask you? What do theyask you? It's all the it's
the common questions, you know,about registration, make sure they got the
right the right thing as far asthat goes, and knowing what kind of
license I might need for this orthat, and fishing's easy. You get
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the hunting and fishing combo and you'regood to go for fishing, unless you
want to chase some trout. Youknow, it's a little extra there,
But fishing, fishing is easy.You just go get your license and have
fun. But it's the best thirtyfour bucks you'll ever That's right, that's
right. Get your full access.Yeah, you guys, do it.
You get it and go out andfish. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
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you have to go show them,show them what you're doing in your show.
You know. Well, Don likesto call me the expert in Novice.
They outdoor expert in Novice, andthat's how I'm introduced on the show.
But but yeah, we like toget out and do do all that.
I look forward to deer season comingup here soon. Yeah. Love
to love the deer hunt, theturkey hunt, and creek fishes. That's
my favorite fishing is getting out inthe creeks. Okay, okay, okay,
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just fishing, just standing out ofthe creek, just throwing it.
Yeah yeah, just throwing some shortsand an old player of tennis to use
and start waiting and it's fine.I grew up in Nebraska. So I
was used to Pheasant in Quail honeyback there and uh, you know,
our guys really work hard in alot of uh focus areas now to try
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to bring back to Quail and uhbut you know, I started doing that
when I was growing up there andcame to Music City to seek my fame
and fortune in the music business,and got to do that for about twenty
five years. Uh, not thefortune part, but you still in.
You still play music, got tomake a living. And Jason and I
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still play music together. Yeah,we're in a little rockabilly band called the
Road Crew, and Jason's an awesomedrummer and singer, and uh and I
play guitar, an awesome guitar players. Do y'all play around here? Yeah,
we play. We kind of callit the Puckets Circuit if you get
there. There's a restaurant chain aroundhere that Okay, we play it quite
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often, and we play some festivalson Root sixty six because some of our
repertoires original songs and sixty six allright, we have we have a lot
of funnels and then Foxing lock Outand Leaper's Fork that's a famous location used
to be Puckets now called Foxing Lockand it's a fun venue focus and that
they're they're about that brings about thereason you have musicians and you show sometimes
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right yeah, we we can't leaveit a long since we're musicians or so,
oh yeah, and you can,well you could well you see do
you see it on TV when you'regrowing up? You see all these things
and musicians come on and then theygo fishing together. Yeah, do you
do that? You know? Ohyeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
We've been out with some of theguests and and try to get out
there with them when we can.Yeah, you know, if you if
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you've heard the show, you shouldgo listen to the show. Yeah.
We also do you know, shootvideo of the show and posted on our
YouTube channel and our social media channelso folks can go, uh you know,
watch it if they like. Andwe've been beefing that up with some
b roll making it really viewer friendly, right see, you see us out
there doing it. Jason took hisson and a couple of other friends,
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including Brian White country music artist BrianWet and his sons uh and they went
frog gigging a couple of weeks agoand did a show about frog gigging.
It is, it's you gotta watchit. Got so they they took their
cameras out in the field and gotsome really good footage of the activity plus
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the cooking of the meat. Ohyeah, j what what did you do?
What all? What all went on? Well, we we got out
there, it was probably I don'tknow, nine o'clock, ten o'clock got
dark. You know, let's getand get out there and find your farm
pond and uh, we all hada gig, which is a you know,
about ten foot stick with a littlethree pronged proke poker on the hand,
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flash light and you just start walkingaround those ponds and try to find
find you a bullfrog sitting there?Do you have to have a license for
that too? You do a gigginglicense or fishing lights? Well, it
would be a it's actually under oursmall game section of our website if you
look at the regulations and you justneed your hunting and fishing combo license and
that would cover you for for froggigging as well. Yeah, it's fun.
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You just get up, you getas close as you can, but
then you know the distance of thegig and the light kind of blinds them,
so you shoot him with that lightand they kind of get stunned for
a minute, and you can youcan gig them and then you take them
home and fry them up. Soit's pretty successful tonight night to night.
Yeah, we we came in withI don't know, twelve or thirteen frogs
and then uh, one of theguys, Brian, took him home and
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he was going to have a frogfry and uh, but we went down
to Campbell Station restaurant in Colyoka,Tennessee, where they serve oh that's serve
okay frog legs down there. Sowe we went down there and uh and
enjoyed frog legs and uh did ashow down there with with the folks at
the restaurant and yeah, talked aboutthe trip. It was a good show.
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That's the way to do it.You go in there and you get
the frog gig and going everything you'regonna get the show and talk about restaurant.
Is that how you normally do dothings? We try to do that.
Yeah. We're all about eating toowell Yeah, yeah, yes,
I am too. Yeah. Wetry to work that did wherever possible.
Man. We now you we weretalking licenses about fishing licenses first of all,
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before we get into hunting. Butthey could still go out and get
fishing licenses. What should you peopledo about fishing licenses? And now they
come to Tennessee, they want toget a license up tip, Yeah,
they in Tennessee, they want toget a license. What should he do?
Yeah, go outdoors Tennessee dot comis the easiest, easiest, uh,
first step and just visit visit thatwebsite, uh, and go through
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the motions, create your account andslick buy a license and it's right there.
So thirty three dollars. I thinkit is for the fishing combo,
and you can fish all day long. But when it comes to hunting,
it's a little more complicated. Yougotta have a few supplemental licenses. But
but they're all right there. Goout. They're very helpful. In the
Dell lad there's a little list ofquestions if you're gonna hunt for a certain
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thing in a certain species, andit'll tell you what it's on education process.
Go outdoors Tennessee dot com. Well, we're getting close to hunting season
though, really you mentioned it earlier. You want to go hunting, So
what's what should people know? Asare getting ready. Now she's going to
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start getting your equipment ready. Butwhat should you do? Shoot? Yeah,
now's a good time if you're abow hunter to get out in the
yard and start shooting and fine tuningthose skills because both season will open up
late September and that runs for Oh, I guess it's pretty much a month
or more there that it runs.It's a good it's a good long period.
Yeah, and then muzzloader will fall. Muscle over season is real popular
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in Tennessee. It's one of thebetter times to be out there. The
big big bucks are moving at thatpoint if you're if you're a trophy hunter
and like to chase the big bucksand uh and then gun season follows that.
Yeah, it's it's always a goodtime to be out there. And
it runs through about mid January.It's it's a good hunt deer. You
got a lot of opportunity in thein the falling winter months. Yeah.
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Yeah, I saw something here,report a sick deer. I saw that
on the lot on that What iswhat is that about? The website?
Head a website. It's got abig thing right here, go report a
sick deer. What does that?What does that do? Is that?
What's what? What type of sicknessdo they have? Yeah, well it's
just one. Uh, it's justthere for in case somebody you know,
comes across a deer they think it'ssick or they want to report it to
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the agency. That's the easy wayto do it. Uh. You know,
with different types of sicknesses. Itcould be as bad as chronic waste
disease or that's what it could be. Like EHD, which happened every so
often. It comes around, youknow, over so many years of a
cycle, about every seven or eight. It's just like a you know,
a sickness. You get it ina in a season. You know,
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you get sick because of a certainbug or something that's going around. So
that's kind of what HD is.But then it could be a serious of
CWD, and we just want toknow what you're seeing and then if we
need to investigate because a lot oftimes we can tell or our biologists can
go out and take samples. Andc w D was really big last year,
but it's still around. It's stillShe'll trying to get rid of it,
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but unfortunately it's around. It's probablyhere to stay. You know,
you can't, can't get rid ofit. It's very hard. But if
we can keep it out in thewestern part of the state, that would
be our ideal thing. Right now, it's only on the west side of
the River O River, so reallyI didn't keep it contained. That's part
of the state, well, theTennessee River, the Tea I'm sorry,
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west of the Tennessee. Yeah.How do you keep it contained? Though?
How do they there's carcass transportation restrictions, there's there's a hun restrictions,
There's all those types of things setin place where we try to keep keep
the pry on like the prey onon that side of the river. There's
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a lot of information on our websiteabout it. As you've probably seen,
John, it's uh, you know, it's a serious disease that's affected a
lot of states across the country andwe just discovered it, I guess maybe
uh five years ago now and hbut I mean, our guys and gals
have done an awesome job of knockingit back and keeping it it contained,
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you know, within certain areas,and like Jason mentioned, those trap uh
carcass uh restrictions. As far aswhere you can move, you'd say if
you harvest a deer and in acertain county, you can't take it across
the county line if it's a CWDcounty. So you know, it's it's
it gets a little complicated. Butif you're gonna go hunt in that area,
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that the bag limits are a littleeased somewhat so that so that more
deer can be harvested. And usuallythat's the best remedy is to harvest more
and to keep keep spread ye keepsspread from spreading. So what what side
is it again? Which side thewebsite? The side the site of the
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state that has it West Tennessee.Yes, west of the Tennessee River,
Okay, is where it's contained atthis moment. Now, so all of
you guys west of Tennessee just stayover there, like, just keep the
deer over there now, yeah,right right, Yeah. As far as
the information goes on that, youknow, go check out our website TM
wildlife dot org. That's that takesyou to our homepage and and uh,
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you know, the hunting guide,is there information on CWD, is there,
deer hunting, turkey hunting, youknow, everything, it's everything.
Yeah, it's I look, Ijust looked it up. The other day
is is preparing for this and it'severything. Yeah, everything is on there,
and beside it's the podcast. Injason spare time, that's what he
spends a lot of times. Heand Michelle, Yeah that work the agency
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are constantly updating the information on there, and you know, very responsive to
if somebody's got a request within theagency, they'll send a note to Michelle
and Jason, they'll get it fixedup. They'll they'll get some data on
there for them. Well, Iknow, one of my favorite people are
the Wildlife Center is that is wildlifeofficers. I love those guys. Talk
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about that. You have to havethem on your show, right, you
have the wildlife officers everybody? Ohyeah, yeah, we have them on
quite frequently, you know, whetherit's talking about law enforcement or talking about
just talking about hunting and fishing.You know, they all love to do
it. So yeah, they're allquite frequent and it's it's great to have
them all. They're great guys,great gals. They love what they do.
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They love the sportsmen Tendessee, theylove wildlife. That's what they're there
for. Yeah, that's what drewhim to the job to begin with.
They didn't come on board to getrich. They came on board because they
really loved what they're doing. Whatthey uh, you know, got a
passion for it. And uh oneof the wildlife officers that we've had on
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recently is is really big into shedhunting. So he'll go out and hunt
the the antler sheds because a deersheds those those huge antlers every year grows
grows a new pair. So uh, anyway, he he gave gave us
all his tips and tricks about howto go out, what time of year
to do it, and what's thebest light to find them. And no,
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he was really into it. Uhyeah. And then we've had other
officers on talking about recruiting, youknow, talking about what you need to
do in the way of education towhat kind of degree you need to seek
in college in order to seek acareer as as a wildlife officer after graduation.
So and that's coming up as well, going up very soon. And
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you know, every year they're hiringa certain number. You know, I
think this is a pretty good cropthis year that they'll be hiring because some
officers are retiring, Folks are movingmoving into retirement, so there's some counties
opening up and slots opening up,so be on the lookout for that.
And yeah, if you're interested inbecoming a wilife officer, you know,
it's it's a fun job from whatI hear. I like working with the
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guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they they they they they
have a lot of fun and unfortunatelythere it's got a danger to it.
You know, said, other guy'sgot a gun to Actually that's got to
be so danger They go through thesame the same training as say a highway
patrol or a sheriff's department, youknow, police department. They they go
through and even more training our guysbecause they are sometimes or a lot of
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times on their own. They're theonly officer in the field at that moment,
and they're going to encounter someone inthe gun and maybe more than yeah,
well yeah, that's right. Soit's it's it's probably a ninety nine
point nine percent chance that person hasa gun that they're fishing, you know.
Yeah, yeah, so it isa dangerous job, but I think
most folks for respect our wildlife officersand and love to see them when they
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pop, you know, pop aroundthe corner and talk, you know,
talk to them and enjoy that conversation. I know the officers do to share,
would you know, share the storiesand what they've been hunting, and
yeah, you know, a goodsportsman's always always wanting to do the right
thing and and and have the folksthat don't, uh right, get right,
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that's right. Come on, yeah, you know, if they're cheating
on a bag limit or a lengthof a fish or something, you know,
it's just yeah, come on,let's play by the rules. And
b you Bui. Voting under theinfluence is tomb and that is it's out
there though it really isn't. Theyhave to be out there on the water
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for that too. So that's that'sreally how's that? How's that going to
tell me? Yeah, we've gotour crop of officers that are dedicated only
to voting, you know, andthat's what they focus on. And then
there's part time voting officers that thatwe even have that that are on the
lakes in the summer times mainly,and it's a hot time a year for
that. It's starting to slow down, but it's just something they have to
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do with it. It's part ofit. And you mentioned Bui. It's
changed this year. There's new legislationthat came, uh, came into being
as of July first. That prettymuch equates Bui with DUI. I mean,
the same penalties, the same youknow, it used to be different
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in a lot of cases, anduh, they've they've realized that, Hey,
it's the same deal. Plus,if you're Bui and you hop in
your car, you are Dui.That's right, that's true. That's trn't
think I didn't think about that.So yeah, yeah, you are on
the water, and you know,technically it's not illegal to have a drink
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right while you're on the water,but it is really illegal to be over
the limit and driving, yes,in driving. So so we we highly
encourage folks to have a sober skipperso you know, just yeah, just
like you do it regular dda designateddriver on the road. You know,
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hey, just have somebody just layoff and keep everybody safe on the boat.
Yeah, I guess you get callslike that on your show. Well,
boy, never, I guess Isaw a guya that type of calls.
You get a lot of those casts. Well, I'd say that the
front dast probably gets a lot.You know, we don't do a live
interviews on our show, That's right, that's right. You've explored. But
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yeah, yeah, most of ourshows are our interviews you know, in
studio. But yeah, yeah,I'm sure we'd get those, Yeah,
you would get those calls. Yeah, I guess. I guess the dispatchers
and our regional offices probably get getsome of those, you know where somebody
see somebody you know out there,you know, doing the wrong thing on
the water being endangered everybody else,and they'll report them. So that's good.
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We welcome that, Yeah for sure. Well, what are some of
the things back to your show,and what are some of the things recently
that you've had that you've that areimportant to you. Now that's recently that
you've you know to Mady call callup, but they come on the show
to talk about a certain topic.What are some of those topics that are
that are big now? Yeah,just most recent show was on quail management.
Oh, it's happening out at BridgetoneFirestone uh WMA Wildlife Management Area and
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so those guys out there are doinga heck of a job with the habitat
improvements and restoration that's going on outthere, and they're saying quail you know,
really just prayer in Tennessee sometimes.So really they're doing a great job
out there. That was one ofthe most recent shows. Yeah, we
did our show live out there ontheir property. So okay, we're mobile
enough that as you as you area job here with your setup, you
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know, we can carry it outin the field. Yeah, set it
up and and uh we had quailand whistling in the background. Oh that
adds to it. It's real.Yeah, we're right there. Oh,
that's great. One other show thatwe recently was with an artist or with
a gentleman out in West Tennessee whocollects art, real foot folk art.
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And it was really neat the theartwork that we got to see this collection.
Uh, and it was it wascool. That was an awesome show
checking it out for sure. Andthen uh, we highlighted a croppy hunt.
Croppy Hunt a crappy fishing tournament comingto town here in October. So
that was cool to highlight that andtry to give that some publicity. But
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uh, the outdoor uh dreams andwhat was the title of that show with
oh Lauren. Yeah. So soone of the other shows with Lauren Walking,
she's an upcoming artist and she talkedabout her hunting trip and hunting with
her dad and and played a coupleof songs which she's an amazing writer and
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performer. It was good. That'sa that's a that's a great idea.
That's just artist what we got.Yeah, you have those artists come and
play, you know, it justit just you know, brings people in.
That's one thing that where's your showavailable? And you have some radio
stations that carry your show too,So I know it can't give all out
on the air. It was justthirty or forty or something but that but
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where can you hear the show?Yeah, so t and wildlife dot org.
If you visit that website, youcan click uh thet stay connected tab
and drop it down it says TennesseeWildcast. Or you can type in ten
wildcast dot com and I'll take youdirectly to the page. And it's got
a list of the radio stations there. It's got a list of the TV
stations where you can find it,and then it's got a few select options
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for for listening on the podcast.You know, we're on iTunes, iheartar
that's right, Spotify and places likethat, so and I heart yeah and
iHeart but you can you can findout just about any podcasting app. Those
radio stations were on YouTube and we'reout there. We post you know,
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a short version and a segment onour social media channels so folks can find
it's yeah a little teaser. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great.
That's great. Well what else isgoing on with what are you gonna do
this week on the show? Well, the next show is another show.
Uh, but we talked about thefrog gigging, right, so that's the
most most recent and then we're gonnahave another episode from that same WMA that's
gonna come out. And not alot of times we try to shoot multiple
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shows. Yeah. Yeah. Locationmakes it easy to you know, and
gives us more content and more forthe for the listener because they're wanting to
know all kinds of stuff. Butuh, but yeah, it's a highlight
about that property and some of therestoration efforts that they're doing. Yeah,
it's amazing what they're doing out thereon that property. Like Jason touched on
with the with the quail effort,it's who the thought that burning a big
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field would enhance really well life placesthey can hide. It awakens a seed
bank. That's sometimes it's been layingthere in the ground for one hundred years
and uh and some of the someof the areas that they've opened up from
the heavily covered forests are just havensfor turkey, for deer, for for
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quail for uh and and when youbring those species back, you get all
kinds of uh, migratory birds thatthat it enhances their habitat as well.
So it's just wow. So theygo only the things we hunter fish for
ye all the other species of animals, So it just burn it off.
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Yeah, really, it's a it'sa it's a pretty cool thing. I
mean, they can you burn thatoff and it burns off some of the
non native vegetation that you don't want, and then that native stuff will come
back, you know. And likeyou said, it's amazing what might be
there in that seed bank that willcome back. Yeah, because it was
back, I've obviously grows back andoh my god, and then they fly
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to it and it's cool to watchit come back. If you get photos,
you know, of the progression andsee it green up and and come
back, and then it's perfect.If it's good habitat for quail, it's
amazing that how good a habitat.It is for all the other species to
live there, rabbit and squirrel orwhatever it may be. You know,
they use that same type of habitat. I want to go out when you
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guys are are recording one day.I just want to go see that.
Yeah, just get to invite meback and I'll come wherever you want to.
I would love to see that.I really would. I really would.
That would be you See, we'rejust in a studio. We're just
in a room here. But it'slike our guys that are made. Sometimes
we'll have field days and things likeyeah, where folks can come out and
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see the work that's happening and learnmore about what they do and why they
Yeah, yeah, you know,uh yeah, that's one way to check
it out. But yeah, we'llhave to have you out. I'll happened
to do that. To do that, and I'll do my show. You
do you sure you would do ashow with either each other? Hey?
Yeah, there you go. Yeah, but you you and people aren't invited
to these things too, right atthe same time you had the show,
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can people come out and see them? Yeah, we've done some live studio
audience in the past, but yeah, we've we've done that and those were
fun. But most of the timeit's our crew and yeah, the folks
on the showy you know, we'reeither in our studio or we're in the
field because so we take the cameraswith us because you never know what you
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might see, that's right. Oneof our biggest ones we did one time
as far as audience participation goes,was Jason I belonged to an organization called
Association for Conservation Information and we hostedtheir conference here last year down at the
at a local hotel, and sopart of the our presentation was we said,
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hey, we'll do a wildcast infront of the whole group. So
we had a whole room full ofpeople. Yeah, yes, I had
a couple of screens set up sothey could and to see what was going
on in the way video switching andthat kind of stuff, and so so
they seem to enjoy it, andit was it was fun to yeah,
have a live audience, you know, stuff like that. Yeah, it
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that's a bit blast to have that. Yeah, it tasted well. Where
is the US again? Where theshow is? Yeah? Yeah, t
and Wildlife dot org. That's ouragency's website and on that site you can
find the Tennessee Wildcast. Uh,so you can listen to us or watch
us. And uh, we appreciateeverybody tuning in when they can. And
it's uh we just appreciate the opportunityto be here with you. Yeah,
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I do too. I'm glad youguys came in. This is great man.
And and the website is the samewebsite to look up anything. As
far as anything you want, Ican't. We'll begin to mention it.
Manwilfe dot org is the is thehousing and for everything. Yeah, we've
got to go outdoors Tennessee dot com. That will get you to the licensing
page recily and then t and wildcastdot com will get you directly to the
Wildcast stuff. But our main agethere's a button to click for buy a
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license and take care take back there. Hey, there's even uh well,
we we've had some opportunity to sellsome caps and things like that. It's
kind of on hiatus right now,but I'm gonna throw in that before too
long we should be able to have. Yeah, it's great meeting you guys,
It really is meet you. Gladto meet you. Thank you so
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much to come and tell him andagain. We want to thank Jason Harmon
and Don Keane for being our gueston today's show finding out about their Tennessee
Wildcast, as well as other servicesof the agency Tennessee Wildlife dot org.
For questions of comments about today's program, you can email me, John Clark
at iHeartMedia dot com. Thanks forlistening. I'll talk to you next week
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right here on your local radio stationon Tennessee Matters.