A Miracle Monday at NRG Stadium! Rockets Roll Past Bucks, Look Who's Back In the News!!!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam raised my Earl.

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Speaker 3 (00:17):
That is Houston.

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Sports chill Age down for the only homegrown afternoon team
is Talking Your Teams.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
A welcome back in Houston, Texas. It is a Monday
edition of the A Team Sports Talk seven ninety wex
and AC with you until six o'clock tonight, Cole Thompson
our producer. As per usual, weekend that started off very

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very very bad. If you're a Houston sports fan and recovered.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Nicely, everything was fine Friday night. No, it wasn't come
from behind will interception. You're not telling the whole story.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
Leave out subplots of a book and just act like
it's you know, you can't leave out entire chapters.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Actually is what it would be. Well, granted, the game
you were working ended much sooner than the game I
was working.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
That game sucked. I was like, you even let me
just a little peek behind the curtain. I get a
text from wex and then I think you gave me
a follow up and I had my I had the
kiddo here, So that was part of this.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I follow you on social.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
And I just just like I'm gonna try and keep
it together in front of him as a good father would,
because I was legit pissed about that game.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Okay, you have to understand why.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
Like I can watch a million Rockets games, I can
watch a million stupid Texans games Astros games all day,
there's certain ones that are gonna stick in your craw
more if you're me, nothing sticks in your craw because
you're a cyborg. We've established this that one didn't like
it at all. If for no other reason, I'm not
not doing this. It was a good weekend. If for

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no other reason, then the Rockets beat themselves on Friday
night more than anything else. I'm not not giving credit
to the Keldon Johnsons of the world who managed to
get like a billion offensive rebounds in the middle of
three red trees every time I looked up at the screen.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
But geez, man, give a.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Guy or you know, five or six extra shots and
even Harrison Barnes can turn the clock back like he's
a Golden State Warrior. Again, that game sucked. It was awful,
And then the rest of the weekend happened and it
was much better.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
That's good.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Well, you know, I'm I'm gonna I might be the
wet blanket today on this Texans win. In fact, I
know I will for something. Yeah, I I have no doubt.
I've heard people call into our station today talking it
was one of the greatest comebacks they've ever seen in sports.
And I just there's too many variables at play here
for me to ever give that game that label.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, the improbability of it puts it up there for sure.
Name what any of the fifty things that make it
extremely extremely improbable. Already have one of the league's least
effective offenses, they don't rank at the bottom of the league,
and too many things, but they're clearly not an effective offense.
They just came off of a game where they didn't
really say, hey man, hey, look there's the end zone

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we should visit. Maybe they said it, but they certainly
didn't do it. Okay, and now you're down seventeen to nothing,
and now you're down twenty nine to ten, and you've
played forty five minutes of football and you've scored ten
points and you're down nineteen points. Okay, I've already hit
on a few things. How about your backup quarterbacks out there?

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Who was out there last week not engineering touchdown drives
and is back here this week engineering one touchdown drive?
And you know, six quarters of football against the Broncos
for half of it and then the Jaguars for most
that part right there? Okay, Well, you're playing a Jaguars
team that has something to play for that they're in
the playoff hunt, they're ahead of you, they're actually inside

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the playoff picture. Those things are there. How about the
offensive line that's protecting for Davis Mills. I mean, granted,
you've been able to watch them for part of this day,
but you also know what's on the back of their
jerseys and the number that they wear, and most of
the season their contributions have been Man, the team I'm
watching but practice with during the week looks good because
they had players that were on the field that had

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never been on the field before at all in any
capacity for this team. Yeah, pretty improbable that not only
did they have to score multiple times, twenty nine to ten,
that's three scores. Even in the NFL. Any way you
slice it, you gotta find the end zone or kick
seven field goals your choice, that much time left, you're
probably not going to get the ball seven times. That's

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a three score game at a minimum. And if you're there,
you're watching it unfold, you're listening or to JJ and Ian, Well,
it looks like they're gonna need three scores to touchdown
two point conversion of a field goal. Maybe you get
the field goal here and they're trying to figure it
out before they've even gotten one of the necessary multiple touchdowns. So,
just from an improbability standpoint and the fact that you're

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saying it and now you watched it, maybe it's not
the greatest comeback ever. Maybe it's the greatest comeback you've
ever seen. All of those factors considered. I mean, the
Texans scored three touchdowns on offense, scored a fourth touchdown
on defense, scored on a two point conversion on the
least discussed spectacular play from the game on Nico's one
handed catch, all in the span of twelve and a

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half minutes the Houston Texans in twenty twenty five, all
while embarrassing Trevor Lawrence's offense over those twelve and a
half minutes.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Again, I'm not it was improbable it was thrilling to
watch all that kind of stuff. The Jags are absolutely
terrible and the fact that you were down that much
to them. Regardless of how bad your offense is with
or without your backup quarterback, it doesn't matter who quarterbacks
the Texans this year.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
The offense sucks. It does. It does as an indisputable fact.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
The fact that they were in that game was in
large part because their defense kept giving them chances because
the Jaguars sucked too.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
It's just you can't. You can't play like that against
anybody and expect to win. It doesn't even matter how
you're giving the game of what you're making it easy
for you, you're not.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
The fact that it, yeah, but the fact that it
was that opponent, like the if I don't know, pick
any good team that's not the Jags.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
They are the worst team in the playoff picture in
either conference. They're the worst team in the NFL with
a conference.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
Okay, if the Colts were doing that to you and
you came back and won, that's so much more impressive
to me.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
And it's two parter.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
If the Colts came in here and did that to you, well, yeah,
they're the Colts. They're actually a good football team, are sure,
of course, but that would happened the Jags are terrible. Well,
they made them look terrible for a few minutes. They
made them look like they were on easy Street for
most of the afternoon. Giveaways with a pick on the
third play, giveaways with the multiple special teams from Stakes,

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obviously the biggest one allowing Parker Washington to clown you
falling backwards into the end zone to give them a
seventeen nothing lead.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
And again, all that happened after that was nothing. You
were down seventeen quickly, and you stayed down seventeen ultimately
nineteen until the final minutes, had an interception, you had
your own touchdown from what he marks, a couple of
things that happened to have it not worse and even
have it on the table, but they managed to make
play all. It's when you're saying it doesn't matter who

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you have out there when you're playing Jacksonville, well what
doesn't matter is you won't win any of these close
games unless you are the team that makes the plays.
And they needed a lot of them in order to
complete a nineteen point comeback and ultimately a twenty six
nothing she lacking in the fourth quarter. But they'd spread
all those plays that got made in this twelve and

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a half minute period to the rest of the season,
they'd be seven and three easy. All the plays they
didn't make against Tampa and the Rams and the Seahawks
and the Broncos, they made all of them in the
final twelve and a half minutes of this game. Over
and over it I catch you didn't expect Dalton Schultz
toe tapping in the back of the end zone. You know,

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Jayden Higgins strong hands catching the first of those late
three touchdowns. Davis Mills out running the Jaguars defense to
the pylon from about the twenty for a fourteen yard
game winning touchdown.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
No small feet. And I'm gonna here's another hot taky
thing to say. Why does why does CJ. Stroud's offensive
line hate him and love Davis Mills different people?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I'm Jimmy. I don't know if Trent Brown hates CJ.
Stroud or not. He's never played in front of him.
I don't know if Patterson hates CJ. Strouder. This is
the line played guard in front right right. Unlikely, it
has to be.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
It's not going to be I don't won another version
because this one actually gave the quarterback time.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yes, would you like to guess you can close your
eyes and think you can look it up, or you
can just throw a team out there. Who do you
think has the fewest sacks in the NFL? Oh, this
Jags defensive line. There you go, the Jacks.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Yeah, well I would That's a very solid point to
make if you're wanting to say extrapolate this to not
next week, because that's not even if you think the
Jacks suck, just wait until you go to Nashville.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
The health of the team is why it would likely change.
Ed Ingram obviously missed the game with the knee injury
that he was playing through the week before, and Titus
Howard one of the three Texans that are still in
concrussion protocol at least according to when we spoke with
Demiko earlier today, but as I mentioned on social media,
Titus Howard was on the sidelines throughout the entire game
with his teammates. Likely that indicates some of the important

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phases of the concussion protocol have been passed, and as
the reason it was not. CJ and Jalen Pecher were not,
but although you know, obviously if they could have been.
I do think that just goes you how different bodies
react to different things, and different levels of hits cause
different levels of symptoms for those players. But for Titus
to be on the sideline, odds I think are pretty

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good that he will be at practice this week, and
if he's a practice this week, those are really the
final stages to pass. He'll start somewhere. If you want
to say let's go ahead and keep Trent Brown at
right tackle, I guess we could discuss it at Ingram's
health is obviously the other one, and how they put
it together. I don't know how they play against the
Titans front that also is not very good at getting

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after the quarterback. Even with Jeffrey Simmons, they should be
able to do some of those things. And all the
pass protection talk is all we ever talk about. With
the offensive line, they did what the Jacksonville Jaguars suggested
they should no longer let the Texans do. They bullied them.
The Texans offensive line bullied the Jaguars down the stretch

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of that game. They're down three scores and they were
still running the football because they could effectively, very effectively Yeah,
Trevor Lawrence was right. He was right. Trevor Lawrence did
get bullied. And as we've said many, many times before,
he's not very good at playing quarterback at the NFL level.
It's not because of drops, it's not because of the
defense they're facing. He's faced good and bad defenses. He's

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had good running games and poor running game. It's him.
At no point during his time, with multiple coaches and
multiple ocs, has he shown any progress. He's actually going
in the other direction. He continued. He's getting worse each
year and this could argueably be his worst year with
the best team around him. God barely, he doesn't even
complete sixty percent of his passes. He's going to be

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a great backup for some team when he never plays
after this contract. I'm shocked that it's he's just kind
of stuck there. I can't believe he is playing as
poorly as he is again for yet another season. And
yet this is a team the Texans are chasing. Still, Texans,
for all this excellence yesterday, for a few minutes, are
still just four and five. Have to beat the Titans
for a second time just to get to five hundred

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to stay in the race, have games against a team
with just one more win than them, Kansas City, have
a game with the team with two more wins than them, Buffalo,
and maybe with a little help and a really really
good finish, likely seven to two, including yesterday's win, then
there definitely is a chance to get there. But they
started four and five, so they're gonna finish six and two. Sure,

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Matt says they could that had games haven't happened yet,
but they certainly haven't played like a team that's about
to do that. And they're not even the only Houston
team that made a comeback yesterday. Yeah, the game afore
the Rockets, I'm sure that'd be much more fun to
talk about, though we will talk about both. Was what
they did to the Milwaukee Bucks yesterday afternoon game in Milwaukee,
a last of a three game road trip for the Rockets,

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obviously coming off of the game in San Antonio on
Friday night. Very typical of these two teams this year.
You look at Milwaukee's roster and you're like, how are
they doing it? And then you play them and say, oh,
I see how they're doing it. They're a much better
team than people are giving them credit for. Their biggest
issue will remain the same as long as he is
their best player, and it showed up in the fourth quarter.

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Just send him to the free throw line. He is
a total disaster there at times, and Giannis was very
good in the game. Missing four out of six free
throws in the fourth quarter was huge. And the Rockets
have like you name it, go to guys on this team.
Jabari hits the go ahead three on a dish from Durant.
Durant hits two difficult jumpers for players who aren't Kevin

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Durant and Alprin Shongoon. I know Giannis is crying for
the steal, so I don't want to say he clowned
him he clowned it, But wow, was that an impressive
I have the ball, I have four good teammates and
one of the better defenders in the league is on me,
and watch what I'm about to do to him. And
then Miles Turner at the bucket for a two plus one. Yeah,

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those are two stud defenders that he made look silly.
It was great. You make when he plays, you win
basketball games. The last quarter. For the Rockets to hit
fifteen to twenty one shots to score four in the
fourth quarter. They wanted the game, so they took it.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Yeah, they outscored the Bucks in the third and fourth
quarters to make that comeback because it was nasty at
halftime down by eleven.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
So yeah, we'll definitely get into that.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
I'm still mad about Friday, but I am very happy
about Sunday's efforts. And there was a lot of college
in between, including a ridiculous catch among other things.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
As we get into it all on a Monday edition
of the.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Show The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
It is the a team Sports Talk seven ninety Monday
edition of the program. Contrary to how it probably sounded
in that first segment, I'm not upset.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
I'm having a good trade. How it sounded, Yeah, you're
not trying to make people guess you flat out said it.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
I was mad about the Friday night loss. I came
in yesterday and I told Josh the same thing. So
Josh c and I we're kindred spirits in a lot
of ways. When we work these Rockets road games and
they're doing stuff that just I mean, you know those
three Fish years where clearly the Rockets were tanking without
saying they were tanking.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
I mean, we all know it. We watched the games.
We know what was going on.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
John Wall was being paid to sit on the bench.
Things like that were happening. You throw that away when
you have talent, when you are a high seed, when
you know that's when you start like actually getting upset
about dumb things happening. And I never thought in a
million years we'd come into this season and defense would

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be more of a question mark than offense. And it's
not even close right now. Like the offense is humming
along even when they lose. They're scoring a ton of points.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Number one in offensive rating in the NBA. Still after
the weekend they are in the top ten and defense
also defensive ratings since at seventh. They're doing the things
though that are helping them win. They intern a close game.
The Mavericks game wasn't particularly close, but they win, and
a close game is something that obviously needed to kind
of see after the first two games of the season.
The Spurs game ended up an eleven point game. I

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think it's safe to say it was closer than that,
especially at different points of the fourth quarter when the
Rockets were within a possession, But the way that the
game ended yesterday, that was back to what happened in
the first two games of the season. Had they executed
like that on defense against Oklahoma City and Detroit, they
might have had a better chance to probably almost assuredly,
would have had a better chance to win those games.

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They had a few instances where they were able to
keep the Bucks from doing what they wanted offensively, so
they could keep pushing for the lead and then extending
the lead when they had the ball.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Well, in your opinion watching the game yesterday, what was
one of the main reasons the Rockets were able to
do what they did in the fourth quarter that the
Bucks were doing to help turning it over? Yes, thank you.
Now go back to Friday night. What the do you
think you're going to accomplish this season? When you give

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the ball away to any team twenty four times for
thirty three points, that is atrocious.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
It was kind of an even split though. I mean,
the Spurs were a disaster from turnovers.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
They were point two, but every time you turn the
ball over to them, they were going down and not
only scoring. A lot of times it was a three,
and it was just like it was just gross.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
You can't play defense in the half court if you're
not in the half court, if you're giving a runouts,
if you're getting you know, these live ball turnovers. Twenty
one turnovers for twenty nine points. That was what the
Spurs did. The Rockets had twenty four turnovers for thirty
three points. Disaster ball for both teams, right, embarrassing for
either team to do that. And we know we can't
sit there and say, man, the Spurs defense was awesome,

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they forced twenty four turnovers. But the Rockets defense was awesome.
They forced twenty one turnovers. No, the teams were sloppy.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
That's why I swear, I swear to you, I'm not
sitting here trying to not give the Spurs credit for
that win. I just feel like the Rocket shot themselves
in the foot like twenty five times, like different areas,
Like they didn't have any toes left.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
They just bludging both feet. Yeah. Again, I'm not paying
quite as close attention to the game, and I've watched
most of it again. I watched it again yesterday. Well, yeah,
there's another game going. I did have it on just
to kind of follow the score, but I wasn't really
watching it. But I did, like I said, I watched
it Saturday to kind of see some of the things
that led to what happened to them. Both teams shot

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the ball tremendously well, everywhere, everywhere, free throws, three pointers,
shots in the lane. I thought the Rockets handled Wemby
pretty well. No, I don't think it's much of an
issue to go into a game have him play thirty
seven minutes, which is not normal. Usually plays far less
than that. Twenty two points, five fouls, eight boards, a
couple of blocks. Very good game. He's a good player.

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Good game. I don't expect him to dominate because the
Rockets are too good of a team to allow it.
But I don't expect them to have him be a zero,
and he wasn't. He's probably not gonna be in a
game like that and beat the Rockets unless you let
his teammates take care of business. Twelve threes from Julie
and Harry. That's probably not a recipe for success.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
But he was a zero in the first half. He
did most of his damage in the second.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Half, So credit to him for taking a team that
was sitting in a one point lead, yeah, and carrying
him to an eleven point win.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
Well, twelve two runs in the half, Like the Rockets
were up by double digits. Everything was going very well
for them. That's another reason why that loss sucked. They
just completely rolled over and died in fifty different ways
in the second half. I don't know why I'm dwelling
on it so much, other than I probably am mad
at myself for talking so much trash leading up to
that game. I just don't think the Spurs are that good.

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I don't well, I don't think they're good against the Rockets.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Good, then who is good?

Speaker 5 (19:47):
I don't think they're good against the The Oklahoma City
Thunder are very good.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Almost to the point where Denver talk about the Thunder
because they're so. But the Denver Nuggets are very good.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Okay, the Lakers I don't think are as good as
their record, nor I think the Clippers are as bad
as their record. But both of them are very deceptive
right now with with what their record is. I just think,
you know, when it when it comes down to it,
the Rockets, it was. It was greater than the Rockets
beat themselves as opposed to Oh, the Spurs were just

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the straight up better team that night.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
I just didn't think of it that way. I don't
look at it that way what happens when two teams,
two good teams play each other.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
And I don't know what to make of it anyway,
because Darren Fox came back the next night, and I
don't know if that's a good or bad thing for
the Spurs.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
On paper, it looks like it should be good. It's
a good thing because I think their backcourt players won't
be hurt and their overall product will be helped because
Champennie will be off the floor a lot more than
that guy who could That's what I mean. Julie and
the Julian Harry Show. Each of them hit six threes.
Harrison Barnes and Champennee that you can't allow that to happen.

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Why did they make them? Because they were wide open?
The Harrison Barnes hates KD.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Loki. I guarantee you hates him. Yeah, it's a chip
on your shoulder thing. You remember who The Warriors moved
out of town unceremoniously after he helped them win championships
to get KD. It was Harrison Barnes' contract. They were
not going, They're like, get out of here, we're getting KD.
Beat it and he sucked ever since. Everywhere he's been
until Friday night.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
He has two.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
What has he done to help any team win that
he's been on. Nothing, They've all been garbage the entire time. Well,
he's the high He's one of the highest paid players
on all of those teams.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Come on, man, look up the numbers playing for and with.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
You gotta give him a Well, if he's so great,
I have to give him a break. He played with
the freaking Warriors. He was the fifth best player.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
He won, the fifth best player, the best player probably Curry,
Thompson Green definitely not better than those three.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
No, and then Harrison Barnes on that team that won
that championship that.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
First year right and paid accordingly and used accordingly. And
then he went where where did he go after that?
I think he went to Dallas first, and Dallas and
San Antonio. Well, if he's so great, then why did
you make them better? Sirs? Team in the NBA, he's
their fourth best player. Fourth best players won't help you win.
The stars help you win. Then why was he paid
like it? Because he that's what happens in the NBA.

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I mean, Ryan Freakin Anderson got twenty million dollars a
year that's twenty not forty forty five. Whatever it was.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
He got an outrageous amount of money. I mean as
part of the reason they moved on from him.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
The Rockets moved on from somebody to get Kevin Durray.
Every team does that if they have the opportunity. Brockets
moved on from Jalen Green. Yeah, he's never gonna win
a championship. It's not the point. Why would he hate
him even and why are we even talking about.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
This because Parison Barnes shot six threes against the Rockets
the other night and it's a big reason why they
lost that game.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Well, he makes twenty million dollars. He's never made more
than twenty four. He gets paid accordingly. He's a piece
to a puzzle, and the puzzles in places he's been
since Golden State didn't have three championship caliber players as
teammates of his. They He played on the MAVs for
two years, the Kings forever now. I guess to play
with Wembedy.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
To be fair to him. Darren Fox played for the
Kings too, and they didn't do crap.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
That's the point. A terrible organization Barn's gonna do for them.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Yeah, I don't know. I just think that he shouldn't
have done what he did on Friday night.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yeah, you know, Dorian Finney Smith did it to the
Rockets last year and La, well, I would like him
to come back one of these days and then they
make shots. That's what they're there to do. If you don't,
it's not a lack of respect, it's a lack of Well,
who do we have to leave him open? Because if
we don't, then look who is open.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
The only thing dumber than this conversation is some of
the things that were being said yesterday on Twitter or
slash X.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
So we'll do that next.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
We'll revisit some of the things that were going on
in what we call the Best of X.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Did you all see this? We should put it out.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Between five and fifteen posts day.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Four hundred people were arrested for things that they said
on social media.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
History repeats itself type, Ben, you'll succeed, never doubt that.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
One two plus we're.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Going one yo, the best.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Nothing's gonna have a top, you know, yo, the.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
Best posted every single day. You know you're the best
of the breaking the entire internet.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
We mentioned all the activities revolving around h Town, at
least from a sporting front, so there's no shortage of
things to just pick on there. We'll pick it up
right up from yesterday afternoon over at the NRG Stadium,
two teams that as a rival was taking place. For
those that get there before long before kickoff, there was
a first game of the day, another international game. The

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Colts were playing. In that game, an NRG stadium feature
two teams in their division. The Jaguars were closer to
the Colts and the Texans, who still have two games
against the Colts and would love to be closer. So
as I'm riding up in the elevator with some Jaguars staffers,
pulls up his phone, He's like, that can't be right.

(25:06):
It says it's thirteen to seven. I go, that's not
even closed. He's like, I know the game's about to end.
It's twenty five, twenty two. You need a refresh, bro
and get out of the elevator with some other people
that are with the Jacksonville traveling staff and one of
the women said, yeah, I think everybody in this stadium
wants the Colts to lose today and everybody did, and
of course the Falcons were not among that group, and

(25:27):
they found a way to not have the Colts lose.
But tomorrow, about who do you want to win? In
that stadium? Yesterday they were a handful of Jaguar fans,
nowhere near the number of Niners and Broncos fans that
have overrun the stadium of the last two weeks, but
also was also a fairly limited crowd to be nice.
So all that's going on, and I ask you this

(25:49):
question simply, I've been not real happy about some of
the description the Texans have given for what they need
to do this year, and all these close games, all
these one score games, all these games that have slipped away.
They've they've kind of said the same thing after each
and every one of them, and they hadn't had a
win in any of them, and they kept saying what

(26:10):
they kept saying, Man, we just need to finish it.
And I kept saying, finish what you're not winning? Finish
what like, finish the loss, because if you're trying to
finish the game and they need to outplay the other
team from behind, if you want to finish a game,
you need to Oh, we're right, there, there's one we
got to make one play and we win the game. Well,
they were kind of in that situation yesterday. But I
specifically bring this up because I almost feel like the

(26:32):
smartest of social media staffs are aware of just about
everything that's out there, even if they shouldn't be, Like,
should the Jaguars know that that's what the Texas have
been saying all season long? Would they've even be aware
of that? I wouldn't think so. But yesterday, around two
forty one PM, as the two teams went to the
fourth quarter, at Jaguars posted a picture from the game,

(26:56):
you know, Jkobe Meyers celebrating with the teammate, the score
twenty nine to ten, and the caption finish it, Jaguars,
finish it. You're up twenty nine to ten, Let's go
get the win. I thought, does seems like much more
than just a coincidence. So let's see. That was at
two forty one pm. At five fourteen PM, I quote

(27:18):
tweeted that and said or not their own personal posts
with me not included at all, Alex said Duval and
added a gift that says no, no, I don't think
I will another gift with a person shaking his head
a little bit. Myths from Chappy It says twenty unanswered

(27:40):
points to quote Davis Mills, they in fact did not
finish it. Is this a picture familiar to you? I
don't know what that's from. They in fact did not
finish it. It is a picture of our former president
in a cowboy hat holding a little bit of a
snake of cups like he had just been to the
rodeo and enjoyed quite a few drinks. No way, maybe

(28:03):
who knows, w never drank. Colts jumped in on the fun.
Did you guys finish it? Oh?

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Colts covering up? Not their official account. That's unfortunate because
they haven't played each other yet. No, they haven't. They
haven't played anybody else in the division.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
It's going to be awesome as there's some things we
need to talk about about the rest of the NFL,
specifically the AFC and what needs to happen the rest
of the way. And then my all time favorite gift,
which has pretty much been unusable since Lovey Smith and
Davis Mills were helping engineer the second pick in the draft.
That's this one. It's always available and when you want
a good gift. Hey, if you type in the search

(28:38):
bar Texans win. This is what comes up in debts six.
Davis Mills unveiling that banner basically between his fingers that
says Texans win.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Best speech in the locker room and I'm using it. Yeah,
like very all.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Of the speeches that were given. Demiko was awesome. As usual,
Nick presented him with the game ball. Game balls went
to Daniel Hunter and to Davis Mills. Obviously, if you
think Davis Mills post game victory speech in the jubilant
locker room was something, so is Daniel Hunters well by
yeah sign yeah. But Davis Mills is like he's like

(29:12):
Tiger Woods level of robotic Fuield interview with Evan was
very similar to that. We may drop some more of
that on you. But this was a win that maybe
saved the Texan season. They were down nineteen and won
the game by scoring the last twenty six points of
the game in the fourth quarter. Well, the other team
did the exact opposite, let it slip away, gave it away,

(29:33):
blew their season, ruined their season. I don't think people
in Jacksonville, at least not on social media, we're very happy.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
No in fact, we'll hear from this guy next segment
because we don't have time to.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Play it here.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
But look, there was yelling well a while, but I
want I wanted to get to the ex portion of
this post because I mean, freezing Cold Takes picked up
on it because they're awesome like that at two twenty
nine p where he at naysayers, Dan, you're jinxing us, Dan,

(30:04):
it's on you. Yeah, jag six and three baby culture Changer.
That last part is my favorite. This is Dan Hickin.
He calls himself a sports guy.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
He's basically covers Jacksonville sports. He was not happy at all,
and well, let's just say once the people started rolling
in with the comments, he had to do his best
to kind of laugh it off. This guy, Jeff said,
best thread ever, and he said, appreciate all the kind
words in the thread.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Many the start with F and end with you. I
said it, I meant it. And another guy said this
tweet will live forever, to which he replied, that's what
I'm here for.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
I can wear it. I mean he was wearing it.
He was absolutely wearing it.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
And yeah, a lot of people were giving him the
old update reply.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Just a lot of that going on. Yeah, from two
twenty nine pm till about three forty five. I think
the saying is he was going through it. He was
going through it, just going through it.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
There was a guy that just wrote Dan in all
caps and he replied, I hate myself right now. He was,
he was going through it. Is spectacularly accurate.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
And this is what you get from Action Sports Jacksonville,
Dan Hickins.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
You're gonna hear him lament the loss in the next segment.
We won't play the whole thing, but my goodness, he's
so mad at them. He sounds like me talking about
the Rockets losing to the Spurs the other night. Times
a billion, one of eighty two, Yeah, exactly, Well this
is not one of eighty two.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
And that's why these losses, well, they just mean more.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
It is the eighteam Sports Talk seven ninety Space City
Home Network sim will cast coming up at the top
of the hour.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Wex ac Cole Thompson with you on a Monday.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
After the Texans scored twenty six unanswered in the fourth quarter,
it's a little.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Were you like me? Like they clearly made a play.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
It counts, it goes on the scoreboard, but it was
like the last ten seconds of the game.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Well it's the last play of the game.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
I feel like they scored twenty unanswered in the fourth
quarter and then they got like a little tack on.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
It didn't really end up literally what happened. It didn't
end up like affecting the game though.

Speaker 7 (32:32):
No.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
The players Demiko Sheldon Rankins, who scored same thing, They
said it even as much. You know, Sheldon talking to
us after the game, he said, you know, the ball
kind of just popped up into my hands, and you know,
I knew when he went down we won the game.
I knew the game was right. I mean, I knew,
but I'm like, well, there's there's all this grass. I'm like,
just let my gud give an ability take off. I mean,

(32:55):
he was really having fun with him playing it. I
was the last guy in the locker room after the
game waited to talk to it. I mean, he recognized
it for what he was. He did score a touchdown
after the second consecutive season, but everything that goes with it.
You get to celebrate there in the corner of the
end zone. The game has just ended, so you know,
the players elsewhere all run onto the field. Everyone's jumping
up and down. You score the touchdown means you're that

(33:16):
much closer to the fans and the stands. They're celebrating
with you. Demiko was literally the first person to hug
him in the end zone because he was running down
the field with him. He knew the game was over,
but it was pretty cool for him to be right there.
And yeah, I mean, essentially they won thirty to twenty nine.
But for those of you that at some point during
the week, especially later in the weekend before Sunday morning,

(33:39):
thought the Texans would win by more than one and
a half points, you went from I know they had
to go for two, but man, you missed it. Now
they're not even gonna cover. And then they did cover
because they won by seven on the last play of
the game. Unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
I was thinking about this randomly because it was a
walk off essentially, if football walk off, if you will,
do you think they'll ever be a time And it's
very different because college and pros and security and just
the setting itself, you think they'll ever be a time
where there's like fans rushing the field. It would obviously

(34:19):
have to be a playoff game.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
And just glance in your mind at the last court
or field storm and you've seen in college football, who's
running onto the field? Kids? Yeah, who's at an NFL game?
Not kids as much thingo. But if it's like like if.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
The Texans played the AFC Championship at home to go
to the super Bowl for the first time in the
city's history. I mean, we're talking about a city that
at one point packed fifty plus thousand people into the
Astrodome to welcome home losers. What year, nineteen seventy nine,
They had nothing better to do, there was only three
channels on the twist knob. But I mean, like, don't

(34:56):
you think that would be the best chance at something
like that happening?

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Less equipped to have that happened.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
Also, like more security, real higher up from this barricade.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
In most stadiums. Every stadium is a little bit different,
but hardly any of them are like you're on campus
stadiums where most of the field stormings happen.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Speaking of which, those very Jacksonville Jaguars, while their stadium
is getting renovated, will be hanging out at Camping World Stadium,
which I am very familiar with in that they held
wrestle Mania there once in twenty seventeen, and it's the
best that stadium looked or will ever look again. It

(35:34):
is a dump and the Jags will be playing there
next year.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
It would be interesting what the Jaguars are not in London,
of course when they move into their new stadium, Like
what kind of football team? Are they?

Speaker 7 (35:44):
Not?

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Good? Do you think they will be good?

Speaker 5 (35:47):
If you have gone think about this, if you think
your life as bad as a Texans fan, you have
gone from Blake Bortles to Trevor Lawrence and one of
those guys was called transcendent at one point.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah, Blake Bortles starting quarterback in the AFC Championship game,
Texans quarterback?

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Is this exactly they've played? That's They'll always have that
on us. They'll also have like what are they twenty
seven and twenty five now since twenty seventeen against the Texans,
I think is their record?

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Texans have had their way a handful of sweeps in there,
and obviously this year would have been nice to think
about just that one game. I'm not telling you to
beat the Rams or the Bucks or the Seahawks. Three
teams that are prip probably going to the NFC plays.
Let's just say you didn't lose seventeen to ten to
a bad Jaguars team when they didn't play all that well,
you just played worse. All right. Now you're five and
four with a sweep. Now you're in set. Looks a

(36:40):
lot better. Now you have the same record as the Chiefs.
Now you'r AFC rec record. When you compare it to
the teams you could be in tybri with them on
the schedule, just got a bit better. Yeah, I mean,
a five win team is in the playoffs right now,
you would be that team. It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
Maybe that's why the aforementioned Jacksonville sports guy was so
upset because they came in with a much better position
as it pertains to the playoffs, and then they well
allow the Texans to score twenty six unanswered in the
fourth quarter. And that's when you get things like this
where the guys clearly he's in his TV studio, he's
upset and he's not going to take it anymore.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
And it sounded like this.

Speaker 8 (37:17):
Twenty nine to ten in the fourth quarter with the
Jags leading against the Houston Texans, twenty nine to ten,
and your six and three with fifteen minutes to go,
and the Texans are three and six, and you have
done what you needed to do what you're supposed to
do against a backup quarterback. Twenty nine to ten with

(37:39):
fourteen minutes to go, twenty nine to ten with thirteen
minutes to go, twenty nine to ten, twelve, sixteen to go.
Texans get a touchdown in a two point hang on
a second Jaguars go three and out. Texans come back
and score again. Jags get another three and out, Texans
driving about ninety seven yards for the game winner. Jags
get the ball back, just get to the fifty.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Give Cam Little a shot. Can't even do that.

Speaker 8 (38:03):
What a freaking disgrace, What a disgrace, What an inept
performance by a National Football League team, Allegedly they're allegedly
a National Football League team.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
They blew a three.

Speaker 8 (38:19):
Touchdown lead in the fourth quarter of an NFL game.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I don't have it in front of me.

Speaker 8 (38:25):
I can't imagine that ever happening before with our Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
My mind is blank right now.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
I was just thinking about this guys like him, because
the city of Jacksonville itself. I know there's college in
that state. I know there's NBA in that state. What
do they talk about when it's not Jaguar season on
sports talk radio?

Speaker 3 (38:47):
There the other teams that they're at, but college is
a big part of that.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, I mean, it's just such a random city to
have an NFL team that has nothing else even close
to that, and never will. They're not going to put
a baseball team there, They're not going to put an
NBA team there.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
They're not gonna pay anything there, and still like would
because they tarp their stadium at times, because they annually
play overseas one of their home games, which they gladly
give up. What word do you use for this expansion franchise?
Several decades in successful?

Speaker 5 (39:22):
I mean, like you said, they've been to one more
AFC Championship game, football successful.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
They have been way worse than you would ever want
to be for this long period of time. You get
out of the expansion train six years tops, you're no
longer an expansion team, and nobody should refer to you
that anymore.

Speaker 7 (39:38):
So.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
The several decades, multiple decades, three decades of football that
they've played since then has been incredibly underwhelming, but nobody's
The NFL is not looking to relocate them. They're they're
not looking for new ownership for them. Everything's been fine
from a business standpoint. Not great. They're not among the
league's marquee franchises. They certainly don't generate that kind of income,

(39:59):
but they're just they're typical NFL franchise. We're operating like
we should, and we go about every season and come
up short every season. We're extremely underwhelming as a football
product and a division that we certainly seem like we
could have done more with over the years. Couple division titles,
just like the Texans the last few years, just like
the Titans the last few years. There are five and four.
I'll call them an NFL football team. Heck, they beat

(40:20):
the Texans once they did.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
It was one of the more disappointing losses in recent
memory that did not include a Texans team that was
clearly pushing for a draft pick. By the way, if
you were on Draft watch, that didn't do you any
favors yesterday.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
I hope you're not. People aren't on draft watch.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Well, do you really think it's right now? On November tenth,
do you think the Texans are gonna make the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Did I not fill out the rest of my schedule
with all the other teams in the AFC playoff rice
and then run through all their records and tell you
get prepared to tell you what their record is going
to be and needs to be to make the playoffs. Yes,
six and two. Of course I did that. And yeah,
I do think they're going to get it done. Yes,
it all comes down to two games.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
You think they're gonna go to the playoffs? Who are
they beating that they shouldn't?

Speaker 9 (41:06):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, the ASC is so good.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
Well, a bunch of teams on the schedule for them
the remainder of the year.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Are not in front of them. Oh my gosh, Bills
are awesome. We'll argue about that. So awesome.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Next, The A Team on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Ninety two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Talking your Team.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
Straight up three o'clock on a Monday edition of The
A Team Sports Talk seven ninety and now on Space
City home Network simulcast underway as we take You until
six o'clock tonight on a day after both the Texans,
and the Rockets won in comeback fashion, Texans with twenty
six unanswered points in the fourth quarter to win thirty

(42:05):
six to twenty nine, And of course the Rockets were
trailing by eleven at halftime in Milwaukee, staring two straight
agonizing defeats down the in the face basically and then
absolutely I think it was what thirty two twenty six
in the third and forty to thirty in the fourth,

(42:25):
I believe is how it all went down in Milliewaukee,
by the way, which is algonkoing for the good Land.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
As you're very well aware of. You're a huge Alice
Cooper fan, Adam Wexler. He's one of my favorite metal
artists that have appeared in a Wayne's World movie and
a WrestleMania.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
Don't forget Russell Golfer. Is he Yeah, he's good Golfer
celebrity tournaments. I've heard he's very very nice guy.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
He is down to earth. The makeup and music fools.

Speaker 7 (42:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Somebody talked about meeting him once and he did the
We're not worthy thing that Wayne Arth do and he
said that Alice Cooper held out his hand like he
did in the movie.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Because he's a good guy.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
Yeah seems like it. So yeah, I just all I've
got on my brain right now. It's not the fact
that Davis Mills played like Tom Brady. It's not the
fact that the Texans defense once again showed that it's
Super Bowl caliber. It's not even a fact that the
Rockets salvage the weekend by offsetting a horrible loss fueled

(43:25):
by twenty four turnovers for thirty three San Antonio points
on Friday. All I can think about now is getting
the Homer Voodoo donut that I did not get in
the press box.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
What's a Homer Voodoo donut?

Speaker 5 (43:36):
Well, the Homer is a Voodoo donut, which these things
are like massive, They're not regular sized donuts.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Do you like sugar? Do you like diabetes? Is more
like dots.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
It's just basically a donut with strawberry icing and sprinkles
on it.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Homer, what's the connection, Simpsons? A Homer? I got you?

Speaker 5 (43:56):
Yeah, they don't call it the Homer Simpson, though it's
called the Homer. It's smart Folt's play. You can get
the club level. They had it when we went to
Monster Jam. The club level they had a whole Voodoo
Donuts setup. And it was called the Homer.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
And I got well at one of the widely acclaimed
areas of the press box eatery that we are gifted with,
and I mentioned this to the staff, the Texan staff.
It's a weekly thing when the opposing media they all
get the front row of the press box right in
front of our ey sit in the second row, and

(44:28):
I can hear them throughout the game saying different things,
and usually before the game while everyone's eating at least
one media member. Traveling media go to a lot of
stadiums do this thing everywhere around the NFL. They will say, Man,
the spread here is unbelievable. It's the best in the NFL,
and it didn't used to be that way. It's unbelievable. Yes,
voodoo donuts are available to us up there in the

(44:48):
press box, along with countless other unbelievable options. And never
get around to the most sugary of snacks because I
just go ahead and meet the food the Homer. Yeah,
they serve uce multiple meals before the game. There's more
food at halftime. It's unbelievable. How do you not weigh
four hundred pounds. I don't eat them all anyway, because
you only go once a week. If it's a home

(45:09):
and I leave for the game, I get the question,
so are you eating? Are you eating at the Texans game? Yes?
So you don't need dinner. No, So you eat like
at halftime, and that's you eat before the game, and
that's my meal for the day.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
For the day of the day. But what do you
do at halftime? You watch everybody else reach stuff their face.
Oh my gosh, do they still do the thing they
do which always drove me crazy. Where this is mainly
a finger food situation that we're going to serve in
a press post full of people typing on their keyboard
serve wings. It's a bit questionable because that's a tough one.

(45:43):
But when they're boneless or nachos sliders, they now have
another whole station of they've had a chocolate fountain before
with all the things you'd like to dip in a.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Chok So it's like golden coral up there. It's unbelievable.
So good, what A what A we're talking about going
to the game? I got, you know, we talk about
the respective wives that we have. Yes, it's probably a
good time to mention. I packed up for the game
I had just come back from Orlando, so it was

(46:15):
a little bit different stuff in my backpack then than
the stuff I was taking for this since we had
a broadcast on Friday. So take everything that I need,
put it in here. I got to put this in there,
put take this out, put this in. And I get
to the game, and before I put all my stuff
in the lockers right behind our seat, I take everything
out of it so I don't have to reach for
my backpack the rest of the game. And I'm like, okay,
I've got everything on. Where is my power cord for

(46:38):
my computer which is definitely not gonna last five and
a half hours. And I'm like, well, I know exactly
where it is. It's on the chair at home because
I took it out to put the iPad in and
never put it back in. So it's ten forty five
ish around then, and I'm like, I don't want to leave.
I can actually leave the stadium and get back on
any other day in thirty minutes, no probing, you do that,
But well, I can't on game day, and I can't

(47:00):
after I've already used my parking paths, and I'm like
it was traffic. So I called call home and say
you could you bring my power cord up to me.
She did not do that, did it almost immediately? How
close could she get to the stadium to give it
to me? I told her where to meet me, and
she actually got a little bit closer. So I just
walked out of the stadium took it. It was awesome.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
I'm not giving I'm not taking any credit away from
my wife. But and the commute your wife had versus
the one that my wife would have is much different.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Even between an eleven and noon on a game day,
probably took her thirt ten minutes to get to the checkpoint.
I just I just don't know if she would have
done that. Well, you might not have asked either, because
my options were I had two options. You we really
have none. One time I ran out of gas like

(47:53):
at our exit because I'm an idiot. Yeah that shouldn't
I'm not. I don't want to say it shouldn't or
it will never, because I'm sure I'll do it at
some point, but I've done it twice. A mind, I
get not super angry, but inquisitively like what are you doing?
Why are you gambling? Like, especially on road trips, I'm
like just get it's just go get nah, No, no,

(48:15):
we'll get it at the next Why get it right now?
Or it was before we take off for two and
a half out.

Speaker 5 (48:20):
It was the old version of my truck, which really guzzles,
and but the first time was way more expensive. All right,
So what we we got toad as I went to
go get gas for it, and by the time I
got back, the idiots took it off the freeway already.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
All the angst for the team that didn't win it
was up nineteen versus all the superlatives and joy and
good vibes for the team that did. It definitely took
all all sides of it. It took what your defense
had been doing and more of it, and what your
offense had not been doing and figuring out what find it.
Even Dan hicken Hicking recognized a ninety three hour drive

(48:56):
for the game winning touchdown. Yeah, that's what the Davis
Mills led Texans did. And you know what else they
did as that drive was reaching its conclusion. The Texans
are driving for what could be the go ahead touchdown
late in the game, and where they end up the
dreaded red zone. The dreaded red zone what's worse, First

(49:18):
and goal, first in goal Texans after the pass interference
penalty that Christian Kirk drew. Definitely his most important play
of the game. Aready, he had one catch against his
former team. Yeah, but definitely a questionable call. I think
if the opposing player, if James had not grabbed or
Jones had not grabbed his arm, because Christian Kirk created

(49:41):
all the contacts. He pushed off, but then the other
player grabbed him by the arm, which prevents you from
kind of going for the football. So they got the
call first and two from the two Texans trying to
win this game, or at least take the lead. There's
one nineteen left, false start Texans, false start, and then
and they get the ball to what he marks and

(50:04):
they've obviously been pushed back and they lose more yards.
Now it's second and nine. What do they do on
second and nine when it's actually second and goal from
the nine false start? A second false start, and in
between the only snap that counted was a two yard loss.
It's second and fourteen now and there's only forty one

(50:25):
seconds remaining, and Davis Mills drops back throws a ball
that is completely and utterly uncatchable Tannico Collins. Now it's
third and fourteen. It was first in goal from the two.
Now it's third and goal from the fourteen, and Davis
Mills runs it in for a hush. Now, I just,

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first of all, all those false starts, I was having
PTSD flashbacks to Larry tunzel Era. But yeah, I again,
this offense, it's great. It's like cute little Davis Mills
against the Jags.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
Both of those false arts were by two players who
had played it exactly zero snaps at the spot they
were playing this entire season.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah, but you know, okay, that's one fairpoint the interior.
And if you also noticed throughout the game, the reason
why the Texans were running out of timeouts in the
second half is because Demico had to run down the
sidelines twice on offense to prevent a delay of game.
Because I appreciate what Davis was trying to do, make
sure everything was in order, and he was seeing what

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he was seeing and you know, recognizing the defense and
being cerebral about the play, but he's completely neglecting the play.
Cock they had to call timeouts, and they were about
to do it again, and I think his patience was
wearing on some of the linemen, like, isn't this where
we snap?

Speaker 7 (51:44):
It?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Aren't we about to snap? It, isn't the ball about
to come out? I cannot excuse anything of that nature.
At home. You should never have nothing to do with
the crowd noise. Well, most false starts do on the road,
but a lot of fall starts are just individual mistakes.
They just I forgot the snap counter, I didn't wait

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long enough. It's not about hearing it. Yeah, but that's unacceptable.
That's so undisciplined. At home, they're all unacceptable, and that's
why everyone was so ticked off on the left tackle.
He used to do it all the time.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Yeah, I know, But I just think that if you're
talking about the Texans specifically, and you're talking about like
this idiot Dan Dickon and Jacksonville, that was like, oh,
okange his name, he's an idiot.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
He's talking about culture changer. You don't.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
You don't get your hold your changed culture from beating
the Texans in a season in which you're you're going
up against their backup quarterback and their offensive line is
in shambles because their GM just doesn't care that much.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Way a bad team, dominate them. That's what he's talking about.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
Ten we talk about Demico culture change, except I never
would have thought that any team coached in any way
coordinator or otherwise head coach aren't all points in between
by Demico Ryans would have such a lack of discipline
over the course of a very still short tenure. But
that's what you have here with Demico Ryans's Texans, because

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even when they're winning games, it's kind of undisciplined. We'll
continue to discuss this and the Rockets big weekend, among
other things. But I have a question for Wax about
the press box, and it has nothing.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
To do with donuts. And that's next.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety eighteen.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Rolling along here on Sports Talks seven ninety it's a
Monday edition of the program. Texans Rockets both with comeback
Sunday victories, Texans with twenty six unanswered in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
Now, people that I have known for a while and
spoken to and trust their opinion on this sort of thing,
we're tweeting about relaying the fact that basically Jacksonville Jaguars

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brass including the general manager of the team, was reportedly
in the press box and loudly applauding as the Jags
were building up, said lead on the Texans and then basically,
and I'm paraphrasing, walked out of the press box with
their tails between their legs after the comeback. And you

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were there, Cole was there. So I have two eyewitnesses
that I trust their opinion was this happening.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
First of all, brass GM's upper level football ops people.
They don't normally sit in the press bus. There's press
level and they sit on the same level. There's a
group of people that sit in their respective coaches boxes,
and on the Texan side, that's normally where Nick Cassari is.
I don't know what mister Gladstone, the general manager of

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the Jaguars, likes to do. I don't know what Tony
Biselli likes to do. Well, I know, I'm just saying
I don't know where he likes to sit for games.
And Nick would be in there, but we would we'd
never hear a word from the I don't think you'd
want to call them brass. We know where the mcmahers sit.
I don't know who else you're talking about in terms
of brass, but I do think there are some some
nights or days where there is a spot in the

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press box or closer to the press box, so to speak,
where people from the other organization would sit loudly clapping
and cheering. If you're asking me if that was happening,
I mean, I don't have the best hearing in the world.
But during the football game, while in my seat, I
didn't hear anything from anybody. Never even looked up when
a play would happen or when anything was taking place.
Maybe in the area where the food is served, there

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were conversations being had. Maybe somebody ordered a homer and
they were happy about that. To order it, you just
take it.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
Well, maybe they ordered it onto their plate and then
they took that bite and they were just overcome.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
With the shore sharing about the donut. They kicked their
shoes off in a fit of joy. So for me
to say it didn't happen, I can't tell you anything
about what I saw because I didn't see you. Col
Did you hear anything like that? What are you listening?

Speaker 7 (55:55):
I'm doing other things. Oh my gosh, did I have
sixteen thousand things going on?

Speaker 3 (56:00):
To the Jags? Brass? Did the GM were they cheering
during the game? In the press box.

Speaker 7 (56:04):
Jimmy was up there with us. I mean he was
sitting in with the other coaches.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
But he's Jimmy. Where are the coaches? They were up
in the They were up on the top level, so
they were actually in the press box. There's three levels.
You're saying they were on the third level. They were
on the third level. Yes, okay, is that comments still
I didn't think so. And they're sitting with the coaches,
But why were the coaches sitting there? No, on the

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other side, we're like the radio broadcast crew is not
in the press box. No, But on the other side
he's still got to right. So to me, that's why
I would describe it like saying someone is sitting in
the press box. Yeah, it means where they presses. The
eighth level includes the broadcast booths, the teeth, radio and
TV broadcast booths, booth for the opposing teams, coaches, and

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broke and if you've never been there would be which
again is nowhere near where we are, right. Everybody who's
up there eats the food from the same place. If
they want to come over there and grab some food,
certainly they might have been over there. I also don't
think it's coreat I mean there's a casion. There's there's
people that work for the team social media wise that
will sit up there, and other members that clearly are
they're wearing Jaguars gear. They're obviously with the team. But

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I don't know what the because like, you're winning and
you're enjoying it, and you're talking with the other people
you work with at the game, and this is your product,
especially if you're at the GM and who you're Yeah,
we put together a team that's up twenty nine to ten. Yeah,
and I'm grabbing some nachos. This is awesome. Give me
some popcorn. Let's let's like like they're on the X platform,
Jags and Texans. Grab your popcorn.

Speaker 6 (57:36):
Man.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Now you got me wanting to go to a game
simply for the food. They do have a popcorn machine there.
It's actually actively making buttered popcorn. Well, I normally have
that at home on game day. Yeah, so whatever, I mean,
why wouldn't they be upset leaving? We thought we had
everybody on that side of the thing upset.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
When I would work on the field during games over
the first handful of seasons, I think I did that
for the first seven years, I would encounter you know
what's funny. You know how I ran into all the
time doing the parabolic microphones on the sidelines, Robert Sala
all the time. Would a lot of times had to
watch out so he didn't run me over. Because those
guys are making a mad dash to get to the

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elevator so they can go down eight stories to get
to the locker room when they're on a time crunch.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
The NFL halfvators are held because they're with us. We're
all in the eighth level and there's elevators specific to
the press box. They just go up and down all
day from zero to eight or from one to eight.
But with two minutes left before the half and two
minutes left before the game, media is not allowed to
take the elevator. They just sit there on the eighth
floor waiting for the game to end. So the second
the game ends, or they know what is going to

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happen before it ends, they all pile into the elevator.
There's two of them, one I mean, if you need them,
one for each team. Depending on when they hop in,
one team may be more in tune what's gonna happen
at the end. Of the game than the other and
they be more likely to leave a little earlier. But yeah,
we can't get in them until all the coaches and
whoever else is up there is downstairs.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Yeah, there's say the funniest conversation I overheard in one
of those elevators from a It was a Miami Dolphins
media member. I don't know who it was or what
his entity was, doesn't really matter. He was upset because
he did not speak in six to ten loop ease.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
You know what I'm saying. He did not. He didn't
understand why it said north south east west in me. No, No,
that's a really, really good comeback for that, because it
did sound like something you would say, I'm on.

Speaker 5 (59:30):
The west Loop, but it says north and south, like, yeah,
it's the direction you're going.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
It's you just have to know how to what without
giving away the numeric address? What is our address right here?
West Loop south FINGO, Do you know what that means?
It means there's two different directions in one single address.
I'm confused.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
It means we are on the west Loop and you
have to take the southbound exit to get.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
To our building. Why don't they put that in the
whole address. They kind of do when they say it's one,
well zero, take the west loop along the south whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
You just said, no, because people like you would be like,
this is an insider outside of it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Ten.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
I'm confused. It's not hard.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
I mean, you can do math that I would never
even dream of being able to do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
In my head. That doesn't that doesn't take anything any difficult.
It's even less to do.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
This is why I never understood people like you. When
I was in college, they could not do English papers.
I had people's full disclosure here, I don't care at
this point where you're gonna do take my degree away.
People were paying me to write their papers in college,
and I gladly was raking in the dough.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
We were driving somewhere this weekend for dinner where and
we go there all the time, and I drive almost
every time. And it is in between six ten and
I ten. So if you're coming for me, the direction
you pretty much choose which one you want to take
and you just go the appropriate direction. It's it's on
Shepherd in between those two very highly trafficked roads, and

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the directions this time and told me to take I ten.
Almost every other time we take six ten because it's
just faster. The restaurant is closer to when you get
off the exit from six ten versus I ten and
taking the road all the way there. And by two
companions in the vehicle who are family members rise, they said, well,

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it's taking telling you to take I ten. I'm like, okay,
she goes, it's the same thing. You just end up
taking a left, and I'm like, are you sure. They're
like looking at each other like are you kidding? Are
you asking us like this? You really don't know? Do you?
You really don't know? And I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
I can't believe you, of all people, with the places
you need to be in this city, and for as
long as you've needed to be at them before GPS existed,
I don't know how you ever got anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
I've never seen anything like sure. I've told stories like
this many times. So I dou just through a lot
of high school football play by play, and I worked
in Greenway Plaza, and so if I didn't leave for
the game where I was the only one working the game,
it was a solo broadcast. I had just set everything up.
I had to record the broadcast literally there's so much
to do. I needed to get there as fast as possible,
coming from Greenway Plaza to wherever side Fair Spring pass

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Line somewhere not particularly close. Five o'clock on a Friday
in Houston, it's gonna take you two hours to get
there one hundred percent of the time. Even if I'd
just been to the stadium of the week before, my
key map is out and ready, it is ready, and
I would make my way out there, and I'd be
annoyed by the traffic, and I would ultimately, almost every

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single time, make the most crucial raw stay turn and
it's going to add how many more minutes to it?
And I'm I am, I'm not even joking, screaming in
a vehicle that nobody else is in but me, free
syllable screaming. I'm like, come on, you're moron, and I'm
yelling at myself.

Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
But I just you're you're first of all, you're very
smart individual. Secondly, you're so type A in so many
different ways. But I've never see anything like it. We
were gonna fly to Miami to go to the Super Bowl.
I was going to drive us, park my vehicle in
the car in the garage, and then we would fly
out on the same flight and then the same thing
when we get back. You had no desire to drive

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to or from the airport. You wanted no part of
any You were like, as long as van Halen's on
the radio, I'm good, and you were awesome. I just
I've never seen anything like it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Yeah, I just not. I mean there's certain things that
either you have it or you don't. I have this
guy miserable sense of direction.

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
You did, but this guy was way more mad about
the whole loop jargon than you will ever be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
I do enjoy hearing what people have to say about
the stadium and the driving and the traffic, and you know,
looking out over you could see the practice field and
the fans, and it's interesting what people think of what
our setup is down here.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
We had a unicorn siding at the Rockets games, both
of them this weekend, and you'll never guess who got
suspended again.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
All of that next.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
The eight on Sports Talk seven night.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
All right, before we get to the latest coaching casualty
and how that pertains to the Houston Texans. Did you
see it this weekend, the unicorn sighting. You referenced it
as the teas and I was in the dark then
as I am now.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
Well, it was there on us on Friday night in
San Antonio, and then it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Was there again yesterday in milliwauke A. Is it traveling
with the rockets? Is it? Matt? He's not a unicorn.
We get way more of him than we need. What
is it? It's Reach Shepherd. Reach Shepherd is a unicorn?

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
Why well would you not say that the last two
games have been his most effective overall as a rocket
and his brief tenure. I would agree with that if
you get this Reach Shepherd. I'm not saying it solves
all your problems. I'm not even saying that I would
be opposed to him being included in a deal for
a point guard, because.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
I think that's what it's going to take. By the way,
he's a point guard.

Speaker 5 (01:05:02):
Okay, Well, what's your biggest issue right now? It's turnovers.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Yeah, it's not rebounding, it's not offense, it's not even defense.
It's turnovers. If you could cut down I mean, uh,
yesterday at halftime, I believe they had twelve. I could
be wrong on that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
I'm trying to think off the top of my head,
and I feel like after halftime they only committed six.
I know they had four in the first quarter because
they had six points off of those four turnovers.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
And I'm like, here we go again. But the Rockets
had eleven turnovers at the half for eighteen spers points
I'm talking about. Yeah, they were a little bit better
with the turnovers against Milliwallka. Well, Friday was just an abomination,
all right, So reached out persons unicorn because he had
two good games.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
Okay, I'm with you, sixteen points in each of them.
But here's the thing, and I hate using this comparison,
but it's only it's all I can think of. And
it's not because they're both white. Okay, so don't go there.
They look similar. He is a master, and I haven't
seen a guy his size have those kinds of swipes
on the regular whenever he's out there. He didn't play

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that much. I mean, relatively speaking, I think he I mean, mins,
do you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Have yesterday nine plus? But it was less on Friday.
I want to say twenty six plus.

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
Okay, there you go. John Stockton used to do this.
The all time leader in steals.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
For a while, Stockton was able to at least create
enough strength for as scrawny as he looked and as
short as he obviously was, he's actually shorter than Reid.
He was built well enough, he was strong. He built
his body up to not only take the punishment, but
to deliver it. As a screen setter and a dirty player,
I don't think Reed's ever going to do any of
those things. And he's very far removed from having that

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type of physical makeup. So he's figuring out better ways
to make it hard on the player that's nearest him
that he's defending, and that's where the swiping is coming from.
I said this, I don't know if maybe it was
the first preseason game, maybe it was the last. I
can't remember which one, but one of the preseason games,
he was reaching for everything, like a man is behind

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him ready to block the shot, and the guy goes
up and he's got nowhere to go with it except
the free throw line. Because Reed as the alternate defender,
the off ball defender, or the guy who'd been beaten.
He's reaching him like you don't have to that, You've
got your defense is great behind you, even if you
get beat or even if you're just out of position.
It was just creating a lot of fouls that were unnecessary.
But I think he's just working on how to get

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better and better at that because that's something that can
help the team. He had four steals in the game
against Milwaukee, and usually if Reed Shepherd has a steal,
it's a runout, it is a fast break opportunity for
wherever he's defending his He's not gonna get a steal
on the paint. He's gonna get a steal twenty feet
from the baskets and one's trying to drive around him,
there's an errant pass, there's a ball that's just loose,
and he's able to knock it free from the defender.

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And he did that a bunch of times against Milwaukee.
It's that kind of defense that if he one defensive
possession equals two rockets points when he gets a steal,
if he has two or three of those in a game,
well that makes up for when some wing player at
and they hunt him and he ends up on a
switch and the six to eight guy just has no
problem at all taking the ball twelve feet from the

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basket and either shooting over him or going around it. Yeah,
but he has to continue to do that obviously. The
other thing he has to do, which he has been
insanely successful at so far this season. His shoot threes,
what is forty seven percent? He's at forty seven point
nine percent, forty eight good grief, Well, he's taken forty
eight threes. If he'd made one more, he'd be at
fifty percent. He's he's been incredible and in these two

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games he was awesome. Yeah, eight of thirteen backbreaking sequences
to the other team. Need more of that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
I'm I'm with you, like it's he does feel like
still even though we're talking about him making defensive plays
like such a liability at times on the perimeter.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
He's just so tiny. It's his fault. It doesn't allow
them to play as straight up as they want. And
if you know as a unit, they're they're unbelievable defensively,
you know, for any step that Durant may have lost.
If people believe that's the case, just look at the
numbers of him as the primary defender. It's the length
of this team around Reid when he's on the court,
even if Tari's out there with him, the length they

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have just makes it so difficult to play against them.
They're not gonna get significantly worse offensively, their shots are
gonna fall less. They're shooting at a percentage they probably
won't keep up, but they're they're gonna go in the
opposite direction, both offensively and defensively the rest of the year.
They're gonna come back down to earth a little bit offensively,
and they're gonna rise up a little bit I think
defensively probably also when Dori and Finney Smith comes back,

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just for one more incredibly flexible piece. They don't play
very many games where they do don't have two awesome
big centers available to them. Emphasis on big, because Capella
as the third guy, even when it's what do they
even need him for? You're seeing why they have him here.
So there aren't any Knights where well, they don't have
anybody to go to her. Alpi's out and Steven Adams

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is resting tonight. I guess we can put Jock Landale in.
But it's just totally different. You haven't even mentioned it
from this last game. How did the bat all of
the boards go against the Bucks. They absolutely murdered them
on the board and they shot a great percentage and
they still got a billion offensive rebounds. I mean, how
many offensive possessions did the Rockets have where they didn't score.

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Not that many, because if they missed their initial shot,
they got it back. Four different Rockets had four offensive
rebounds or more in the same game. I just they
were built very, very well, even in the fact that
Fred van Vliet is unavailable.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
That's the number one reason you're saying this. If he
had been lost and they weren't built well, you wouldn't
have these numbers we're talking about on either end of
the floor.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Yeah. I like what they've been doing more and more
as the season's gone on. I think a men Thompson
has been in a better and better place offensively to
maximize what he can do rather than necessarily being out
top setting things up, although he clearly obviously does that.
But they feel comfortable running different offensive sets that begin
with Alpi twenty four feet from the basket, Durant twenty

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four feet I'm in you used to name them, and
they feel pretty comfortable doing that because of all the
other responsibilities opponents have to have depending on what set
up they're looking at. From Houston and Josha Koge was
a steal three million really for sure? I mean, it's
just like ball gets tipped in last night's game and
Bucks have their first offensive possession. Who's guarding the honest

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a Kogi?

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
Who is guarding Wimby the other night? That too, I mean,
and doing very well. He was awful the first half,
awful a zero, as you said, not quite. I think
he scored two points something like that. Now, there's a
lot to like.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Six and three record be nice if if one of
those l's very winnable games. All three weren't. But the
record is totally fine for where they want to go.
There's a couple of teams with a better record. They're
not chasing Oklahoma City. They're up to the fifth seed. Now,
if you're chasing the standings, yeah, you're just you're you
are chasing those teams. Those are the teams you're going
to be battling with to finish second, third, or fourth,

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to have a home court advantage, to be in the
the right side of the bracket. Two and three again
will miss OKC until the Western Conference Finals. I think
that this Rockets team, I think has designs on making
sure they're right back where they were last year. I
don't think every team in the West plays it that way,
but I think they do.

Speaker 5 (01:12:13):
John Morant was suspended and I still don't want him
on the rockets. So that takes care of that part
of the conversation. We are going to talk about who
I do want to come to Houston. He just lost
his job. There's a hint we'll discuss next.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
The A Team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:12:39):
It is the A Team Sports Talks seven to ninety,
Space City Home Network, winding down the three o'clock hour
as we get into the nitty gritty of the NFL season.
I don't think that a I don't think anybody thought
that Mike McDaniel would last as long. He's still chugging
along and he's upsetting the Bills yesterday embarrassed the Bills. Yet, Yeah,

(01:13:02):
that's actually a better term.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
I did not. He was dead.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
Locke was gonna be the next firing, and then the
Dolphins were like, no, no matter.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
What happens, he's gonna stay here the rest of the year.
They want the GM route and desired to fire their
GM who'd been there for two and a half decades
instead apparently believing in the coach. But they just don't
have enough talent okay, and the Dolphins now have three
wins after the win yesterday over the Bills. We just mentioned.
First coach that was fired was not Hims. The team
the Texans are playing this weekend, the Tennessee Titans, running

(01:13:33):
them with an interim coach, Mike McCoy, but as of today,
he's not alone. Another coach was let go earlier today,
The New York Giants fired their head coach Brian Dable.
Why'd you say it like that? Because they already had
two wins before yesterday. The Jets just got to two
wins yesterday. They're on a winning streak of two consecutive.

(01:13:54):
They've also given Aaron Glenn I think a vote of
confidence with how they've both operated. Kind of flat out
set it that they operated at the deadline, like, we
believe in our coach and we believe in our GM,
both of them in our first year. So we're gonna
give them an opportunity to keep this Jets trained rolling
into the wall, but we'll just won't fire him after
a year. We believe in our coach and our GM.

(01:14:16):
We do not believe in our roster. Our organization is
bound to lose, but we're gonna stick with these guys
for a little longer than maybe you thought with our
h to seven start. So day Balls fired after another
loss yesterday, and I couldn't even it was so difficult
to figure out what I wanted to craft in the
post with the quote tweet of the Giants have decided
to make move at our head coach and Brian Dabole

(01:14:37):
is out. We talked about what's going on in Indianapolis
because people think there's some sort of Daniel Jones connection
to the day Ball firing. Well, they were good when
he was there. In his first year. First year for
day Ball was the best year that Daniel Jones had
in his Giants uniform for all the years there was there.
It was the best year he had. They made the playoffs,
they won nine games, they won a playoff game, and

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he wasn't really healthy after that, And it was one
of two years that he had Saquon there. They'll figure
it was the year he was super healthy and was
awesome and was a pro bowler and they won. Then
he was a little bit less healthy the following year,
and the following year was year two for Daybole, where
he started three different quarterbacks, no more than six games
each then last year in this year, and I still

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found a way to sneak in. How about that Brian
Daboles last year. Turns out that the first pass and
last pass of his last year in New York was
thrown by Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson who's bad and got
benched and was forced into duty in a two score
lead in their last game for day Ball, and ultimately

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they did nothing on offense after that. He did nothing.
All the juice was gone when Dart left because he
had to go into concussion protocol and they gave up
two touchdowns and lost again. And in their statement, the
Giant statement about letting him go, they specifically referenced the
last three games, all losses as to not liking what
they're seeing. They were the other team that the Broncos

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had thirty three fourth quarter points against to come all
the way back and win in a game they hadn't
scored the entire game, So they've had some fourth quarter collapses.
They clearly are lacking some talent. They're playing a first
year quarterback and if he's the answer, which I think
they think he is, they're headed towards the top of
the draft. Without needing a quarterback. The Titans are headed

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to the top of the draft with probably not needing
a quarterback, so this could be a wild off season
of discussions and negotiations and trades and who is the
best quarterback? But all that being said, Brian Dabile is
a pretty widely respected good offensive mind, and I'm sure
he could wait and see what other head coaching jobs

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might be available this offseason, or wait even longer and
maybe beyond that. I think he's fine as a head coach.
He doesn't wow me, but I think he can do
a good job with a little bit better at his disposal.
But if he's fine with going back to being a
runner of offenses as an OC, he'd be in a
in a job next year, no question right here. I
don't think the Texans are gonna have an opening, so

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in that vein, I don't think we will get a
repeat of last week's question of is Nick Kyley going
to be calling plays? Like, just take the sixty minutes
of football we just watched. They started that game and
called plays, in my opinion, like they knew they had
no chance with City Show and Trent Brown and Jarrett

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Patterson on their offensive line. Even against the Jags, they
called plays like all right, Davis, you're gonna get this up,
get round of the ball, and then on second down,
you're gonna get the ball in your hand. You gotta
throw fast. And that's why he stared down as receiver
on the third pass of the game and got it
picked off because Jacksonville could already see that that's what
the Texans were doing. I understand adapting and recognizing we

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might not have a lot of time to throw, But
as soon as they moved away from that, they're play
calling once again. Overall for the full game with some
bump and you know, ups and downs. Overall, the play
calling in yesterday's game was absolutely fine, totally worthwhile for
an NFL level coordinator. And if you noticed when they
got into the red zone early in the game on

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the Woody Marks touchdown, at least they learned, we don't
have an offensive line that can bully anybody. Don't run
directly up the middle. They scored on a running play
from inside the five yard line, had a nice pitch
play to what he marks.

Speaker 5 (01:18:25):
JJ Watt was talking about that on the broadcast. He's like,
this is how they fancied themselves and this is reality.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Yeah, so and he was right. I mean he would know.
So Nick Kyley, you still think there's an opportunity. And
I'm not saying like, you bring Brian Dable and you
let Nick Kyley go, you have a better offensive coordinator.
I'm not gonna say you don't. You obviously would. I
think that probably goes with that offensive line. You don't
think they're going to do that? Do you want to
win or not? Because I don't. It doesn't lower the
numbers of how much of your Patriots ties. Because Brian

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Dable of course from the Patriot Well, then they'll definitely
do it. Then they already have one in Nick Kayley.
I just by the way, those offensive linemen they started
Jarrett Patterson was a and Tay Nursery were Nick Cassario
draft picks. Yep. The other three offensive linemen that started
their primary workload prior to arriving at Houston as a

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NFL lineman, well all three of them with the Patriots.

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
It's not an accident. It's not even a joke anymore.
This is what they do. This is who they are.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
The only team that Andrews had played for before here,
the only team that so had played for before here,
and Trent Brown spent the majority of his time there
in New England as well.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
You called it bargain Ben shopping for offensive linemen. It's
not even bargain Ben, it's Patriots Ben. Yeah, a lot
of it was.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
And like the talent level of the group, can you
They just scored thirty points on offense in a game
with this offensive line with that backup quarterback. But against
the Jacks, Yeah, against the Jags, who are They're an
average team with an average defense. It doesn't get after
the quarterback very well. But you're talking about an offense

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that only got five field goals the week before and
can't find the end zone in two of their eight
games prior to Sunday. They clearly were doing things correctly
on offense with an average at best because their most
talented veteran offensive lineman wasn't there and Titus, their most
talented lineman, has played every snap this year. Luckily, that's
tay URSII, who continues to play better and better and
better every single week no matter the competition. He's the

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first and only one that Nick has nailed. Yes, and
two of the other three players that he drafted in
the top two rounds, watched these other guys start. Fisher
didn't start at tackle, he started as tackle eligible, and
Juice Scruggs came in. Nine snaps into the game. They
figured out that So's awful play was not going to

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be conducive to winning a football game. He got nine snaps.
I saw it live and I thought I saw what
I saw. I went back and watched it again. Three
of those nine snaps before he was benched for the
rest of the game were unbelievably bad, beaten, so badly
plays lown up, no success possible. That's who they spent
the week saying, let's go ahead and start this guy.
That's two hours. We got two more to go here

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on the A team. More on the Texas. We will
hear from Will Anderson after the huge win yesterday from
the Texans.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
The A teen on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Ninety two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam talking your
team is.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are The eighteen.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
Four o'clock hour is underway here on Sports Talk seven
ninety It's a Monday edition of the eighteen. Following a
Texans comeback win over the Jags Rockets comeback win over
the Milwaukee Bucks. That has been the dominant topic of conversation.
Those two things. We'll get into some other items. But
one thing we really have not talked about like at

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all today, and I don't really understand why Texas never
make that comeback wex without the defense being absolutely electric again, hohum,
We're just awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
This is what we do.

Speaker 5 (01:22:12):
If we had even any semblance of an offense consistently,
we'd be super Bowl bound in all likelihood. Okay, that's hyperbole,
but you can see where I could go with that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Giveaways put them in a hole, and it wasn't because
of the defense. I even posted something very mean about, well, hey,
if the defense can just give up a big play
touchdown here, then they truly will have a team effort
of complimentary football. Because the offense had turned it over,
the special teams had allowed the punt return and then
a punt return touchdown, the Jaguars had to go a

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whole eleven yards on their opening possession, plus a penalty
on the field goal attempt or else the drive would
have literally only been eleven yards, and they led three
to nothing because they got the ball at the forty
and then their next drive and they scored a touchdown
on they started on the nineteen yard line because the

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Texans couldn't hold on to the kickoff, got it punched out.
Another punch out turnover in the NFL a couple of
times it's happened to Houston. So they'd seen the ball twice.
And they scored on both possessions, and they had a
whole fifty nine yards a field in front of them
to do so, and one of the possessions they couldn't
even get to the end zone. They had to kick
a long field goal. Okay, so defense is already playing well.

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Then you gave up the special team's touchdown while the
defense and offense were both on the sidelines, and now
it's seventeen to nothing. They had a couple of good
drives to start the second half, and that's their whole
offensive output. Even without the Texans going berserk offensively in
the fourth quarter. They were gonna have a bigger day
and a better day than Jacksonville. They just weren't in

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it as good a position to get away with that.
But then when the game was on the line, it
was over. I can't you can't do much more defensively
than what the Texans did with the game on the line.
The game was on the line the moment the fourth
quarter started. If you were gonna have any chance to win,
that had to be curtains for the Jaguars, and it was.
They got the ball with twelve sixteen left and had
a three and out and punted. Then they had a

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three and out and punted. And then the final series
of the game when they were now trailing because the
Texans had scored three consecutive touchdowns, well, there still was
a threat. They got the ball in the thirty three
yard line with thirty one seconds left. You know, their
kickers already made a sixty eight yard field goal of
the week before. He made a fifty plus yarder in
this game. That got you know, they got to take
back off the board. How many yards did they really

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need to set up for the game winning field goal. Luckily,
they only had one time out left, which the Texans
forced them to use because they got a sack on
the very first play. They had to have one good
offensive drive in the fourth quarter and they probably win
the game. They don't have to score on it, but
maybe they take enough time off the clock by having
a two and a half three minute drive, and the

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Texans can't win. And they couldn't even do that. Trevor
Lawrence completed zero passes in the fourth quarter, and he
wasn't oh for seven or OH for ten. He was
OH for one. He dropped back six times to pass,
he only launched one time. That's how awesome. The Texans

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defense was. Nobody was open, so he scrambled twice. Nobody
was open, so he got sacked three times. He threw
one pass, and that one pass should have been picked off.
He threw it through the hands of his iz Al
Shair and if he had not been there, In my opinion,
Dick Singley Junior was so lockstep on his coverage with

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the receiver. I think the throw was a bit behind him.
It would it looked like it was going to Stingley.
So you made their quarterback obviously look like himself. Trevor
Lawrence is awful, and he played that way. There's no
twenty six point fourth quarter, there's no three straight touchdowns
to win it. If the Texans defense doesn't just keep
doing what they've done all year. And I don't really

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know why you would doubt them I'm not sure what
it is that people might have against them. Going out
and winning a game all by yourself as one of
three phases of your football teams pretty hard. In the NFL,
pretty much nobody does it. They did it when they
had Ray Lewis. The Ravens defense could do that. They
did it when they had Dent and Marshall and the
Fridge and everybody else. The Bears did that. That was

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the mid eighties, and the Ravens did it twenty years ago.
There aren't defenses like that that just you can win
a game seven nothing because the other team can't score ever,
and every possession is a nightmare possession because your defense
is so great. Defenses aren't built like that anymore, with
the way the offensive rules are. It's just impossible. This
is as good. This is as good as it can be. Now.
There's parts of their defense clearly that need to be better.

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Goal to go defense, red zone defense. Sure, but they're
in the top five and turnovers. They're in the top
five in every possible yardage category against the pass, against
the run overall, and they're you can't put points on
the board against them. How much easier can you make
it for your offense, if you turn the other team
over at one of the best rates in the NFL,

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if you keep the other team off this gowoard at
the best rate in the NFL, and if you're the
hardest to move the ball against at the best rate
in the NFL, they're doing their job at an elite, elite,
elite level. People doubting them, I don't know what they're watching.

Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
And Derek Stingley Junior has somehow gotten better this year, Like,
I don't even think that's no.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
He has made some Yesterday's play was stupid, absolutely stupid.
We say that every week he's but there not he's
I don't think he's had a better year than he's
had than he had last year, haven't. I think he's
made some more highlight reel plays. And I also think
he played multiple weeks nearly every snap unhealthy, so I
think he was, you know, gutting it out when there

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were things he wasn't quite able to do. But it
is worthwhile to note that the last two weeks he's
allowed one reception while he was in coverage. Last week
was the touchdown to Sutton, and he dominated the matchup otherwise.
That's pretty big give but it's also being attributed to
him only without any reference to was the safety supposed
to do this or did you expect a different coverage.

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That's just how it gets graded out. This week, he
gave up one nondescript catch and nearly had two interceptions.
He obviously had the one that was just Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:28:07):
When you say he's not having as good a season
this year, is it because he's not putting up as
many you know I in T numbers?

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
Because no, he's just given up a few more plays
Like the I T numbers are a little bit relative
that well, how many picks can he have when he's
hardly ever targeted because he's so awesome getting it's more
about when he has been targeted. There have been a
few more plays that went the offensive way than did
last year. He's gone from unbelievable second best corner in
the NFL to not quite as unbelievable and still the second.

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Nobody's passed him. I don't think there's any cornerback I'd
prefer to have him on the have on the field
besides piss two. And also we talk so much about him,
we forget I last year does not get enough attention
for how good he is, and last year the same
thing happened. He's having another awesome, awesome, awesome season. He

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just has the misfortunate of playing in the shadow of
I think it's ok a year two for him to
be there. There were other mistakes made in the second aary,
and clearly they that was the only area of their
defense where they were hit at all. Like on injury
front because Jalen Pree's absent, so you know Miles Bryant
was going to be on the field quite a bit.
They lost MJ. Stewart for the season yesterday his quad

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injury that had him in an air cast and cart
it off the field. I think we knew it was
likely that it was season ending, but Demiko Ryans confirmed
it was a quad and it was a season ending injury.
I think believe Aaron Wilson had said the same thing
last night. So Miles Bryant was on the field eighty
one percent of the snaps like he is. He's not
even on the active roster, but I don't think there's

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much different. We shouldn't treat it like that he's on
the practice squad. I think it means that all likely
need to sign him, and if we don't ask Wednesday,
we'll last Thursday, depending on their availability. We should be
about at the time when Jimmy Ward has this practice
window open. And in light of Petree's absence that may
or may not continue because he's in concussion protocol, and

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the fact that Stuart who began the year as the
backup to CJ. Gardner Johnson, they're in need of some help.
You think CJ plays this week? I do. You're not
got right now? I do not. I think this is
an injury you have to be careful with. I think
I mentioned this earlier. The Texans have three players in

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concussion protocol. One of them was on the sidelines all
game long yesterday, Titus Howard. The idea that he was
out there when you know what certain symptoms are, what
you don't deal well with, what he was dealing well
with a lot of things that would prevent somebody in
deep into the early stages of concussion protocol from being
out there on the field. They wouldn't want him out there.
And they're things that the lights and other things that

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maybe you wouldn't want to be around because how it
still is affecting you. I think that suggests we're going
to see Titus Howard on the practice field this week
and he may be on his way out of concussion protocol.
Didn't see Jalen, didn't see CJ doesn't necessarily mean much
more than I just happened to see one player who
is but it could easily suggest the severity of the
symptoms is different. It is higher, and this is someone

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susceptible to those types of hits more so than other
than lineman who catch him seventy times a game and
somehow don't have as many concussions documented the quarterback caliber hits.
I mean, Davis took a couple of those hits, just
didn't happen to have his head hit the turf that way.
The Jackson Dart concussion was a front facing hit to
the ground. He at the side of his helmet when

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he's tackled from behind, and from the side. CJS was
his helmet and head snapping back onto the turf violently.
So I don't think he's going to play Sunday, And
then if he doesn't play five days later when they
have the Bills in town, that's another ten days. If
he's not out of it, then it's ten days more
for him to recover before they even have to consider

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is he well enough as he and at that point,
if it's a three week he's not out of it yet, Well,
then did something bad happen, which, well, we know what happened.
It's just we're learning more about the severity of it
and the difficulty in making the decisions than when he clears.
Are you still you have to be concerned. When he's
got full total doctor's clearance, you're still sending him out

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there with concern.

Speaker 5 (01:32:08):
This is why I was actually like low key shocked
at the blowback I got when I when I said
what I did after the concussion, I was like, the
question is will he be ready for the Bills game?
Meaning he'll miss Jacksonville that's a non starter, and he
might play.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
That is the other thing.

Speaker 5 (01:32:23):
I know what you're gonna say before you say it,
but like, if this weren't the Titans, I wonder if
that affects this.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
Yeah, I hope it doesn't. But the same thing that
maybe there's blowback on I can't tell from the hit necessarily.
If there's reactions from the body that are so severe
and I don't think he had them, then maybe you
know a little bit more, but we're probably gonna watch
another concussed player for the very same game return after
a week.

Speaker 5 (01:32:47):
The slow Moo replay where you could clearly see his
eyes go back in his head, that concerned me a lot.
And just the ferocity of the his head hit the
turf with the speed with which it did it was
it was. It was a very bad concussion just from
the looks of it. And I'm not a doctor, clearly,
so that's why I said what I did at the time.
We will continue here the good, the bad, and the

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ugly coming up at the bottom of the hour. A
little bit of a mixed bag this weekend, but so far,
so good on the KD trade to Houston all that next.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety All.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
Right, I lied because I totally forgot.

Speaker 5 (01:33:26):
I wanted to get to this story and now's a
good time to do it. A little tiny break from football.
I know it's a Monday after the Texans won how
many different scandals, and I know we're coming off an
NBA gambling scandal. We're not even coming off of it.
We're in the middle of it, very early stages.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Did you see Jeff passon just like casually drop a
complete nuke over the weekend on the Guardians. Yeah, like
they're just throwing games. No, they're throwing pitches. Everybody throws pitches.
WEX then the term used should be there intentionally throwing
pitches out of the strike zone to open up at bats.

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I'm sorry, we actually already knew. I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:34:08):
There's plenty of footage of Yeah, I just don't. I
don't ever want to hear from anybody about the Astros ever. Again,
I just don't because bleep you for the way you
respond in kind to steroids over here and gambling over there.
I'm sorry, Like integrity of the game, I don't want
to hear from you about that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
So to me, they're definitely not all three different, but
definitely two of them are different, especially the gambling, but
widespread usage of performance enhancing substances and widespread team wide cheating,
those are closer together because there's there's no way the
manager didn't know. There's no way that he didn't know

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exactly with both. If all these players are getting substances
from somebody, and now this player's on it, and this
player the team knows, the team is aware of it.
It's not being distributed by the team unless you're the Angels,
and it's not being run by the team, but there
are win it's not steroids, it's oxy and they're not
trying too hard enough to stop it because they think, well,

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they might get away with it, and if they get
away with it, then we're gonna win more games, and
we win more games and we go to the playoffs.
And I make like it's a hard cycle to bat
battle in this particular instance, the manager's not aware, the
catcher's probably not anyware. Their teammates except the two that
were working in concert with one another, might not even
be aware. And you're just all, like, I know, I

(01:35:29):
said it. I'm trying to all day this weekend. I
was trying to figure out what was my wording on it,
because specific to this player we're talking about, it's a
manual class. He's one of the best closers in baseball,
right and then what happened, Well, then he sucked. That's
what I was trying to evaluate as the season's ongoing,
and I feel like, well, okay, here's why he was unhittable, untouchable.

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One of the best seasons ever had by a closer
in the history of baseball, like it was a rap
if he got in in twenty twenty four, and the
Astros saw it a few times, the rest of them
their division saw it all the time, untouchable, and he'd
had two previous seasons not immediately before that, but previous
seasons where he was close to that also, So he
was the elite closer in baseball. And it was always

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fun to talk about because the stupid Rangers just gave
him away in a horrifically engineered trade. Well that's what
they do, So it was always fun to keep an
eye on. Yeah, And then last year he was much
more hittable and he didn't have nearly the control. His
whip went from six to five to nine, which is
unheard of. Best player in baseball, stuff to twice as high,

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almost twelve twenty five last year, worst of his career,
and his ERA went from point six one to three
two three some seasonal You know, obviously he's not gonna
pitch quite that well, but to this extent, all he
did was make it harder on himself on purpose, so
he could make some money and so his teammate could
make some money. I'm gonna as instructed, I'm going to
throw this pitch out of the zone and I'm gonna

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be down one to zero in the count, and then
I'm gonna get to work. And it made it harder
on himself and it hurt his team. Like the integrated game,
what he was doing was making it hard for his
team to win. He could have added, why don't I
just bet against the Guardians, right, But he couldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:37:05):
I mean, that would be too obvious as supposed to
just regular obviously, if by allowing these very very specific
wagering angles inside the game, you cannot necessarily I mean,
he wasn't throwing the game. It's like a player who knows, well,
the Gamblers need us to win by seven and a

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half points.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
So we just win. Still, we just do it by
a different margin. It's it's almost like what he was
doing here and this, I mean, I don't I don't
know what you do with the baseball side of it,
because like the NBA gambling scandal, that's at the infancy stages,
it's not gonna be The Guardians aren't going to be
punished for this. The Astros were punished for a team

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wide Your team knows about what's happening, and we've sent
a memo to your team, which now we have a
cloudy picture of who knew what, who sent this.

Speaker 5 (01:37:55):
And y the best part about that was it Chris
Bassett that was like, we've all just kind of moved on.
You guys in the media are the ones that still
talk about this. We all know everybody was doing it.
Mooki Bets comes out and says it. And here we
are in twenty twenty five after the Dodgers have won
another World Series with Mookie Bets in their starting lineup,
and they care about it more than Mookie does. And

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you know, Mookie's team is the one that was victimized,
but then again they were also victimized by him, which
is the funniest part of this whole thing. And Joe Kelly,
the more on they painted a mural of Josh. Dodgers
fans are stupid like Nankes. Fans are dumb in a
like in a Dallas Cowboys I'm stuck in the late
nineties kind of way. Dodgers fans are dumb. They're just stupid.

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This will probably I don't know anywhere. I don't know
how far along things are. These two players are not
only we know they're not gonna play again, but they're
gonna be told they're not available ever again, and may
they're gonna get But you threw it away. And this
goes back to what we were talking about with Terry Rozier.
For what pennies on the dollar compared to what you're making.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
For your contract, these are individual punishment suspension.

Speaker 5 (01:39:05):
Never I will never ever look at gambling and laugh
it off when somebody says it's a disease, because it
clearly is for you to throw away the type of
money these guys are making for pennies on the dollar.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
Over what they must think. They're not throwing it away,
they're just getting more or they're in such trouble and
they don't actually have the money I have to have
right now on hand to get out of trouble. That
this is the way. I mean, the only thing he
got he signed for one hundred million dollars. He doesn't
have a hundred million dollars. In five years, he still
won't have it, because that's not really what you're taking home.

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You know, differunds silly, right. You could be in a
situation where you're a nine million dollar a year baseball player.
But you got yourself or your family or a friend
or somebody who knows you who roped you into trouble
where the only way out of it you think is
I need the money right now, and I can get it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:55):
But here's the way. There's a couple of things I
wanted to get to here. The first off is, you know,
the reason for doing this with these guys, I'm almost
always gonna think now because of what we know about
this and especially the NBA situation, well, they've got to
be in debt, they've got to be in some sort
of you know, compromise situation from that standpoint to be

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even considering doing something so stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
That to me was a difference between.

Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
Guys like this and Terry Rogier and Chauncey Billups and
a guy like Michael Jordan, who is like famous for
just gambling on anything like a light switch. He would
find a way to bet on it. But the guy,
it was like he was a pathological competitor. That's where
that came from.

Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
And you would never let himself get into that situation
because he has to win so bad.

Speaker 5 (01:40:45):
You don't think he would have taken on the mafia.
If he could, he would have tried. That's Jordan would
have not been successful. No, not usually something that goes
well for anybody who does. But you know the other
thing that's gonna come from this, I think, and I
hate this because it's just gonna be a reality now.
And I said this over the weekend, like, what did

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you think was gonna happen when you started putting this
world over here? In this world over here? Put them together?
To make money? Because that's what it's always about. You know,
money is not the root of all evil. It's the
love of money. People screw that up all the time.
But you're gonna have to, now, you and me that
follows sports and any fans out there or whatever, if
something's either not right, something's a little off, A team

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loses that really shouldn't have.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
And I realize baseball is a little bit more nuanced.

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
You're gonna wonder in the back of your mind, now,
is there something going on over here?

Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
When you say, what did they think was gonna happen
when they part those two worlds together? Who is that?
You're not talking about Major League Baseball and taking money
from fantasy sites? Yes? Are you?

Speaker 9 (01:41:48):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:41:49):
One has to me. That's not the connection. If the
state or the nation, your state usually in this instance,
has the jurisdiction over whether it's legal or not. Once
they say it's legal, that's the day it's It's not
the Major League Baseball or the NBA. Once the door
is open for the gambling to happen, it doesn't matter
if the NBA or Major League Baseball or the NFL

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takes money from Caesar's Palace. That doesn't matter to the
players that has the impact.

Speaker 5 (01:42:15):
What I mean by that, though, is that they're going
out of their way to say, you players over here
cannot do this, but over here, we are absolutely going
to install places to do this in your arenas of play.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
The fans can do that, Yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (01:42:33):
The fans are doing it based on your performance. All
of this is like this nice little cocktail of what
are we waiting on? It's gonna It's already happening. In fact,
I think it's been happening a long time. We just
happen to have a situation where two different parties parties
mean plural. I guess in each case, we're dumb enough

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or whatever the scenario was to get caught.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
Yeah, and the specifics of this. As I was talking
about those intentional balls out of the strike zone. We're
talking about being paid five thousand dollars for throwing an
intentional ball, and then five thousand dollars for the person
who helped to facilitate it, which was the other pitcher
on his teammate, and then they did it again. And
these are the amounts we're talking about for the instances
of it. Pocket change to Class A A little bit

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different for Lakeys. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
And you know it's funny because Chauncey Billups probably still
made more money as a player than he did as
a coach.

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
Making very very good money as Blazer's coach. And now
the Blazers basketball wise are actually just fine with Thiago
Splitter running each under halfway through the third hour of
the show means we hit our signature segment. We would
do that next. The Good, the Bad, the Ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
The A t on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
Now the good, oh good, the bad that's not good,
and the ugly don't make me good.

Speaker 1 (01:44:00):
It's the A Team were.

Speaker 3 (01:44:02):
Bed halfway through the four o'clock hour each and every
day here on the A Team brings us our signature segment.
Fridays we do our stone cold locks, recap those later
in the week. Thursdays, what's up with that? Wednesdays? That's
good for Wednesdays BS, whether it's actually the B and
the S or we actually bitsteal from people here on
the station. Tuesdays we ask say what. And Mondays we

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get you back from the weekend. We haven't been with
you since Friday.

Speaker 5 (01:44:30):
Do it like a minor shot on NBA inside Stuff Friday,
there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
Mondays, we hit you with the good, the bad, and
the ugly, usually all sports related, but we usually allow
for some liberties. Something outside the box is a must
to discuss. We had a lot of games to take
care of this weekend between us here. I was out
in Orlando as you heard and kind of saw on
Friday during the show, working the Cougar game. You were

(01:44:55):
working the Rockets game. You did the same thing on
Sunday while I was over the Texans game. Slate of
college football on Saturday sans the Longhorns first game for
LSU with their new coaching setup, and all sorts of
other things took place this weekend. There's a new number
one team in college basketball, the season is in its
infant stages, and the Cougars were more impressive with their

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latest win than right, so they are now the number
one team in the cast. College basketball is wild. They
have had a championship caliber team for half a decade now,
and this year's team is no different. But the trajectory, well,
they played in the final last year, so I guess.

Speaker 5 (01:45:36):
The only thing to do is to win the game now.
I guess all that's left is to win it all.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
But all those things took place as we get you
into the good, the bad, the ugly.

Speaker 5 (01:45:44):
Cole you'll be last. You know what that means. I'm
I know, Ac you are. You're bad, very very bad.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
You're bad. The good, obviously, was the final twelve minutes
and sixteen seconds of yesterday's Texans game. No need to
say what the Rockets did is in not equal the Rockets.
They did it for twenty four minutes. Save their season yesterday.
The Rocket season is gonna be just fine pretty much
no matter what happens in their regular season contest, provided

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they finish in the top six, which they almost assuredly
will barring a crazy, crazy amount of this guy's not available.
They're one of the better teams in the West. That's
not going to change. They have tons of talent. They're
gonna win a lot of games like they did against Milwaukee.
They'll probably win a lot of games like that against
teams even better than Milwaukee as the season continues, And
if they do that this week, you'll get to see

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them at home. Sometimes I wish they were in the East.
I don't know if this one topic could be all
three of the categories. As I asked this question before
I actually get to the good. So who they have
on Wednesday?

Speaker 5 (01:46:45):
Oh, they've got Cam Whitmore's Washington Wizards.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
So he's very bad. Do you is there a first
time out of the game Cam Whitmore tribute video?

Speaker 7 (01:46:59):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:46:59):
For what are they gonna put on it? Because one
of his dunks you could put.

Speaker 3 (01:47:02):
The good, the bad, and the ugly altogether.

Speaker 5 (01:47:05):
I hate that I was so wrong about him. I
wasn't wrong about his talent. I was just wrong about
whether or not they should keep him. They could not
trade him fast enough.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
So the good is the Texans. They did save their season.
If you're three and six and you've allowed a team
you'd like to catch to get to six and three,
you're just limiting your options. There's only so much you
can do. Mathematically, you're falling further and further behind even
the worst teams that are inside the playoff picture. You
would have still been two wins away from every single
team that you're chasing, because you're not really chasing the

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Ravens even if they would have been four wins and
you're at three, you're chasing the winner of that division,
who currently is the Steelers. And if the Steelers don't
win the division, that means the Ravens blew everybody way.
The Ravens are gonna have the best finish in the AFC.
By the way, but the Texan season did not end
because they did not lose, and they were well on
their way to it. You can't start much worse. You
gave the game away for twenty minutes and then somehow

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had enough left to go back and take it back.
And it came with Davis Mills running the show, and
it came with Jaden Higgins in the end zone and
Nico Collins on the two point play and Dalton Schultz
on the toe tap play and the end of the game,
Like everything they did defensively, at some point we'll probably
get into daneil Hunter's first ever caliber statistical game in
franchise history. Nobody had ever done a had a three

(01:48:20):
and a half sack, four TfL fumble forced fumble game
in team history. Even the guy sitting next to Iron
Eagle had never done that. The Texans saved their season
with the win. You can continue fantasizing about are the
playoffs still a possibility because they won yesterday?

Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
All Right, I'm gonna give you a choice for the
bad and both of these could be ugly, but it's
just not what I have today. You want Disney or
Canada Disney? Okay, well all right, now we need to
like break the tie here broken?

Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:48:59):
This is actually in your wheel hile house. You're a
Manning Cast fan, right.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
Love the Manning Cast. Do you know who's going to
be a guest tonight? Uh, that's the Eagles and the Packers. Remember,
think Disney and think about ABC, Disney current Events. Give
me one more hint. Well, some people aren't gonna be
able to see this game tonight. Yeah, I know there's
a carriage dispute.

Speaker 5 (01:49:24):
Yeah, so why not bring in the CEO of Disney
on the Manning cast tonight. What could go wrong? There
is no way this goes well. Peyton will be handling everything.
There's not some renegade host of the show that's gonna
pop on or they're not taking calls, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:49:42):
So nobody's gonna ask if OJ killed Bill Walsh again?

Speaker 7 (01:49:45):
Do you think so?

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
Uh is an? I would not have gone that way.

Speaker 5 (01:49:49):
Disney CEO Bob Iger is going to make his Manning
Cast debut amid the YouTube TV dispute.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
For the past two weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:49:58):
ESPN has obviously been unavailable on YouTube TV amid a
dispute over carriage fees. While the two sides are negotiating,
Disney execs blasted YouTube TV and a memo to employees
that's my favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
Do you can't think there's anything to this theory that
Disney is intentionally making it outrageous for YouTube to accept
their terms, So YouTube ultimately will not accept their terms
and they will not be carried by YouTube for the
sole purpose of forcing people who want their product to
purchase their product directly from them on this launch of

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their new services that they're dying for everybody to be
a part of.

Speaker 5 (01:50:34):
That is two hundred percent what I think It's what
everybody should think that has a brain, because there's really,
at the end of the day, what is it always about?
What's it about with these idiots that are gambling? What
is it about with all this stuff? Comes down to
one thing?

Speaker 3 (01:50:49):
Hopefully do you have the full guest list? Hopefully there's
some football people coming on tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:50:55):
Quinta Brunson, okay, and Shane gillis, Oh, I'm watching You're in,
Now You're in?

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
This is my favorite.

Speaker 5 (01:51:06):
If Bob Eiger doesn't come on and announce that they
have a deal in place, then Shane Gill has better
just spend his visit trashing the entire situation, which he will.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
Maybe they'll even bring them on together. But yeah, I'm
I'm in. You're rich something along the flight out to Orlando. Yeah,
I went to downloaded tires all the episodes. Did you
watch four of them? Should I? It's he's hilarious. Oh gosh,
we got time to make you ugly cool. Yeah, we
got a little bit of time.

Speaker 7 (01:51:33):
This is more so from a broad perspective of the
world of college football, but it does involve a local
Greater Houstonian DJ Logway Bunny, what's going on out in
the likes of Gamesville, Florida. Not only did I view
you as the best quarterback in the SEC, you got
benched after falling behind to the University of Kentucky with

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another three plus interception game. It is not looking like
the future is bright for the former Willis product and
Gatorade National Player of the Year. I see it takes
on Lane Kiffin, who's trying to maybe prove to everybody
he ain't leaving for Florida anytime.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
So Florida twenty nine, Texas twenty one, Kentucky thirty eight,
Florida seven. In a span of one month, those two
results happened where it just means more than the SEC
apparently the.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
A team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:52:44):
By the way, you got a choice last segment, Yeah,
I said no to Canada.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
Well we're going to Canada now, all right, what do
we have poutine? I'm telling you people don't want to
play there. In the NBA, there's one team in Canada.
There's the Toronto rap used to be Vancouver, but now
they're in Memphis. This is totally not brandon Ingram related, right,
It's totally branded Ingram related. What do you have? Did

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you see what he did? I did. Did you see
how long it took to clean it up? Yes? Did
you see what the NBA just announced. Yeah, he's twenty
five grand lighter. I'll read you what they find him for.
For those that haven't seen it are unaware, So great
Toronto Raptors Forward brandon Ingram has been fined twenty five
thousand dollars for what for forcibly throwing for forcibly throwing

(01:53:31):
his water bottle to the floor while on the bench.
That is what he did. That is not a good
enough description then, Like I said, I'm reading it word
for word. They do describe the incident. The incident coma
in which the bottle made contact with a game attendant
and caused a game delay to dry the court. And
then they occurred with this time on the clock. Da

(01:53:52):
da da da dah. It did create a long delay
because they somehow were bad at cleaning up water. They're
great at cleaning up sweat during a play. Guys can
just run out there and sweep it and hall ass
back underneath the basket and nobody even notices. But with
five hundred towels and six different people cleaning it up,
it seemed to take a long time. So it did
cause a game.

Speaker 5 (01:54:12):
To bounce to the bottle off the floor, It flew everywhere.
The attendant in question had to turn his face so
we didn't get it directly in the eye.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
It was pretty faws and it was a not a
plastic water bottle, a little more of the harder variety casing.
I'm telling you, Like Brandy, he gave no about it
at all. Oh, he watched them clean it up, like, yeah,
reach a hand out to Oh, I'm sorry, nothing like that.

(01:54:43):
It strikes me, heset, he's a bad dude. He had
a bad moment for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:54:48):
I just you know, like when you remember back in
the you know what it made me think of, and
this is way way elevated. You remember when Charles Barkley
got fed up in Philadelphia and he spit on what
he thought was that guy in the court side seat
and it ended up hitting a little girl.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
So Charles is a bad dude.

Speaker 5 (01:55:06):
Well, Charles went out of his way, not just that night,
but then forever. I think he gave them like season tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
I don't know what.

Speaker 5 (01:55:13):
He just felt horrible about it, and immediately, you know,
tried to make him right in the moment now, in
the moment, right right, well and later though, So what
if brandon Ingram reads a prepared statement and then crumples
it up and throws it away?

Speaker 3 (01:55:25):
Is he okay? Then a prepared statement? I really apologized.
I didn't realize the harm I had caused the individuals
in question, and I truly wish the fans viewing at
home didn't have to wait for them to clean up
the water throw it away. Good evening, sir.

Speaker 5 (01:55:40):
My name is the I used to be addicted, Okay,
So like I just I've seen him in New Orleans,
saw him obviously in a Lakers uniform. He was the
principal piece that went back the other way on the
Anthony Davis trade.

Speaker 3 (01:55:53):
Technically this took place in America. Oh yeah, where were
they playing again? Exfinity Mobile Arena in Philly.

Speaker 5 (01:56:00):
Oh, in Philadelphia. That's as American as it gets. Yeah,
the birthplace of our country. That's just I think.

Speaker 3 (01:56:09):
Everything about it looked bad. The every I mean, it
was a minor incident, and I think over or No,
I'm thinking of Brooklyn. Yeah, they're still over. This is
a playoff team in the East, the Raptors. That's why
I just said last segment.

Speaker 5 (01:56:22):
I sometimes wish the Rockets were in the East because
they clearly be the number one seed.

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
The Raptors could currently be playing in the play in
game seven eight game. They're five and five, and we'd
probably see a repeat of this incident because they're playing
the Sixers.

Speaker 5 (01:56:35):
There's no doubt that Brandon Ingram has talent. He always has.
He puts up big numbers everywhere he goes, and a
lot of times it's for losing teams.

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
He should be if the contract fits what you're looking for,
and it probably doesn't because of when he signed it
and how much more there is on it. Total missing
piece type of offensive talent. They could do wonders for
a team that's looking for one more piece at the
deadline or at any point. But the better had a
lot of towels. He is in Toronto, where they have
several individually talented players that are unlikely to produce a

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very good basketball team. The Hawks, the Celtics, Raptors. These
are five win teams in the East. They're not good.

Speaker 5 (01:57:12):
Scottie Barnes was also kind of like trying to take
a seat when all tho was going down.

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
I feel like he was wondering why Ingram wasn't realizing
what he had done. It looked like Barnes was much
more Dude, you can't do that, or can you offer
some help or why'd you do that?

Speaker 5 (01:57:27):
I understand the frustration, but no reaction after he hit
somebody and created a mess was weird. He should have
apologized for that, That's one fan on Instagram. It's pretty simple. Yeah,
we're not asking for much more than that. Entitled a players, man,
at least apologize. Entitled a players is what I meant

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to read. They didn't put it long enough.

Speaker 9 (01:57:50):
Dash.

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
It threw me off, so I'm surprised and look over
to one of the equipment guys like, dude, I'm thirsty.

Speaker 5 (01:57:55):
Where's my water? I don't have one anymore? Apparently if you,
if you kind of dig into it. He got upset
because he was hurt on a play. Yes, he was
before he came over to the bench.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
Yeah, it wasn't from a decision or a play was
He was upset that as a player who has dealt
with injuries, this is very frustrating to him, and he
has dealt with a lot. But yeah, by the way, right,
that was at the Philly game.

Speaker 5 (01:58:19):
In which they wore the throwbacks to the Iverson Finals
team era, those black ones with the old logo on
the floor.

Speaker 3 (01:58:28):
That was one of those. I don't know if those
came out in the late nineties or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:58:33):
Everybody else was making their atrocious ones like the Rockets,
but that was one of those logos that I actually liked.

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
But it's the six or so. It's kind of always
been classic. You don't want to mess with a good thing.
What they have now is a lot better. It's fine.
I like the original, Okay, Matt Thomas, it's fine. I
mean they've had better than what they have now. I mean,
as simplistic as most jerseys were in back in the day,
those were good. Now I like it.

Speaker 5 (01:59:01):
It's the red white, and it's everything a Philadelphia team
should look like the Eagles. I don't know what they
were thinking, although the Kelly Greens are awesome. Well, just
as I.

Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
Like to do, big game tonight, Eagles, Packers for you,
so you can get your stone cold locks where they
need to be.

Speaker 5 (01:59:17):
I didn't even considered that Packers looked off. Maybe maybe
Jordan Love won't throw to an Eagles defender all along
the end zone and then he'll drop it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
So the Packers played the Panthers last week, we lost
to them. They they were there's played the Saints this
week and lost to them. How bad are the Packers
judging from that logic? That is crazy? The Panthers shockingly
have won five times this year. Not a good football team.
Do not have a good quarterback? Can you call Bryce

(01:59:50):
Young a bus yet or what? I'm ready? Yesterday's performance
is pretty alarming, and it's not the first time he's
played that way.

Speaker 5 (01:59:56):
The number one pick in the draft that would been
a Texan if you didn't win that game in Indianapolis,
he would have been a Tech. Do you know how
disastrous that would have been? When you also put this
line in front of him, he probably would have died.

Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
Yesterday's hero already a hero from twenty twenty two Davis Mills.
I I'm gonna push back on the hero I am.
Do you realize he's two for two in his last
two starts to start Jackson Wills. No, his last start
was overall the win over Indianapolis. The graphic recent start
was yesterday.

Speaker 5 (02:00:32):
My favorite was when JJ, with a straight face, said, well,
I mean if Texans fans won a silver lining. He's
got this overall record, but he's two and one against
the Jags.

Speaker 3 (02:00:41):
The last game he started before yesterday was the last
game of the regular season prior to the CJ. Stroud,
Bryce Young Will Anderson draft.

Speaker 5 (02:00:48):
How many games was it? How many games was there
had been? Yeah, thirty six something. Yeah, I don't know,
but he played in there at something.

Speaker 3 (02:00:57):
Yeah, he'd been on the field, he just had not
started because he was bypassed by the third stringer for
those starts that CJ was absent for when he had
his first documented concussion with the Texans. I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (02:01:06):
I'm starting to think more and more he's not going
to play this week, and I'm okay with that.

Speaker 3 (02:01:10):
Yeah, It's just it does become a timing thing. And
obviously nobody knows this situation better than they do. We
don't hardly know anything. If he's not on the practice
field on Wednesday, feel pretty convicted that they will not
be seeing him on Sunday, But weird things between then
and Thursday. I hope they're not saying, eh, Titan stink, No,
we can win without you. But the Bills should have

(02:01:31):
nothing to do with any of that. This is a
concussion five o'clock, Will Anderson, he speaks on Davis Mills.
What animal is Davis Mills? Will Anderson, We'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (02:01:42):
Next The A teen on Sports Talk seven ninety Adam
Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A team.

Speaker 3 (02:02:01):
Since its football at five in the final hour of
a Monday after a Texans comeback victory over the Jags.
Terrible team, by the way, a five and four football team.
Sometimes I wish I could realloud some of the text
messages I received during Texans games, especially games like yesterday, before, during,
and after the comeback, But alas I can't. I'll do that.
Oh what a comeback. Best fourth quarter I've seen from

(02:02:24):
the Texans, I responded with, amazing. Is that entertaining? That
is the boringest exchange I've ever heard about anything? Is
this better? Yeah? This is when the Texans had first
and goal from the two down twenty nine to twenty four. Okay,
false start was a killer Cam Little sixty eight yard
field goal for the win. Anyone who thinks the Texans

(02:02:46):
won't lose on a last second field goal isn't from Houston.
Does that sound better? You know what's funny about that? Though?
Even after the touchdown from Davis Mills thirty one seconds
was very much in play. Absolutely, they had it at
the thirty three. After that, the Jacksonville Jaguars did, but
the Texans defense did what they had been doing the
entire fourth quarter and they just totally shut it down

(02:03:08):
in the fact that they had one time out remaining
and had to use it after the very first snap
because that was the half sack to the end of
the three and a half sack day for Daniil Hunter.
He and Henry too too. As it is said in
the press box, Oh oh toh picked up the sack split.
So they had to burn their last time out there
so as to have a few more snaps left and

(02:03:29):
now needing to get that much closer. Their first snap
was at the thirty three, twenty yards from there, they're
kicking a field goal. Fifteen yards from there, they're attempting
a field goal. Well, now you pushed them back nine
yard yards and they're out of timeouts. Naturally, he scrambled
for a first down on the very next play twenty
one yards scramble. And to what the Texans were trying
to do and how they kind of allowed for that

(02:03:51):
to happen. Then he threw to Washington, but another Jaguars
penalty wiped that one out. Texans set up. If you
weren't watching it, or if you haven't seen it and
you weren't there and in person, the Texans did the
right thing. And although I can't say I've seen another
team do it this well, last nap of the game,
they have seven seconds left, they don't have any timeouts,

(02:04:12):
and they need a second snap if they're gonna attempt
to feel well, they're not trying out on this play,
so they got to get enough yards to try it,
or they're throwing a hail mary from the thirty five
yard line. Hey, Aaron Rodgers has done it successfully before.
And if you don't know, Aaron Rodgers in Trevor Lawrence
are two different people, very much so. So the Texans

(02:04:33):
they rushed three, dropped eight. I wondered how they were
gonna do that, and they had everybody that was dropped
in coverage. I don't think there was a single player
within ten yards of the line of scrimmage. So at
least at the forty five they just simply stood at
the sidelines. They made a little circle around the sideline,
so everyone was literally butted up against it. But if
you were going to throw a past the sidelines, you

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were going to see a Texans defender there. There wasn't
going to be an open spot. There wasn't going to
be a quick out to get ten yards, to get
fifteen yards. They weren't playing what you would normally call
a prevent defense because they didn't have to. They could
have attempted to pass over the middle, but it was
going to be the last play of the game, so
they almost forced them to try to do that, which
I don't know if Lawrence recognized it before the snap

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or not. Here's how it went. He snapped the football,
Texans rushed three, They chipped will Anderson, and still had
six other players in that remained in two block. Three
of them blocked Daniel Hunter, two of them were on
the Texans defensive tackle, and after the chip by the
tight end, one of them was remaining on will Anderson,

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who completed the play by sacking Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 5 (02:05:43):
The I told you this in the offseason, They're going
to kill a quarterback this year, and they have been
all year.

Speaker 3 (02:05:51):
Most vicious hit on the quarterback in the game was
from an unblocked Trevon Walker, who got in so clean
past Trent Brown that he couldn't avoid slamming Davis Mills
into the turf and gaping since fifteen yards. You can
see it on the replay. He really did try and

(02:06:13):
a split second to not drive the way strategy with CJ.
It worked well for Houston. But to that end, I
mentioned Will Anderson Junior talked to him by his locker
after the game. He lockers right next to Sheldon Rankin,
so it was hard for him not to just go
on and on about how awesome he's one of his
best friends on the team. Really loves having him back
here in town. So I had some really good things

(02:06:34):
to say about Ranks finishing the game and rumbling into
the end zone. But he also noted the obvious how
important the win was. But I told you, he said
when asked, what did you see from Davis in this game?
What did you see from him? And I said, he
called him a specific animal. Guess what animal he called him.
If you didn't hear the comment, I have not heard

(02:06:55):
the comment. But now I'm like feel like there's no
way I'm going to get a right answer. Well, your
guests might be funny, doesn't have to be. Davis Mills.
What kind of animal?

Speaker 10 (02:07:06):
Is he?

Speaker 3 (02:07:07):
A donkey? They won? Dude? Trevor Lawrence on Hey, Trayvon Walker?
What did you see from Trevor Lawrence today? Man? This
guy was a donkey out there getting sacked five. He's
fumbling on the last play. He did not call Davis
Mills a goat. I can go that or the goat,
any kind of goat. I don't know, all right, what

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did What did you see from Davis in this game? Will?

Speaker 7 (02:07:32):
Man?

Speaker 9 (02:07:32):
I just seen a lion. I've seen a lion on
the hunt all day.

Speaker 11 (02:07:35):
Man.

Speaker 9 (02:07:35):
The way he led his uh, he led his troops
man down the field, up and down the field. Man,
he's a star, and I'm happy to have him. He's
a blessing to this team. You know, whenever your number
is called, his number was called and he delivered for
us man, and it's really big for him and his team.

Speaker 3 (02:07:47):
His number has not been called as a starter for
three seasons. Number ten, You're up. Not since C. J.
Stroud was drafted and Will Anderson was drafted. Will Anderson
has been his teammate. Now this is his third year.
It's the first game, he is in the starting quarterback
with Will out there and so many of these other guys.

Speaker 5 (02:08:03):
To be honest, though, it would have been way funnier
if he had said he's the goat.

Speaker 3 (02:08:08):
He would have laughed himself had he said that. So
with Davis two hundred ninety two yards passing, it's the
eighth time Davis has thrown for two hundred and ninety
or more. Six of them came in losses. The only
other game he's thrown for two hundred and ninety yards
or more in a Texans victory because of what he
did in both games at the end of those games

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is the aforementioned Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 5 (02:08:32):
He drove all the way down the field and got
the two point conversion. They were that close to having
Bryce Young ruin their friends.

Speaker 3 (02:08:41):
Number one pick. They would have taken Bryce Young. Maybe
they were forced to take the better option because they
had the second pick. The closer you get to the drafts,
all the evaluations to be done. We've heard all the
stories about the you know Jay Glazer's report. The Texans
were talking to the Panthers about moving up up talking
to the Bears about moving up to draft Bryce Young.

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With the number one pick once they did not have
the number one pick over the many months later, leading
that would.

Speaker 5 (02:09:08):
Have been the only scenario that would have been worse
than just outright drafting Bryce Young.

Speaker 3 (02:09:13):
Well, maybe Bryce in the Texans situation would be better.
Maybe he plays here.

Speaker 5 (02:09:20):
Oh my gosh, you know, speaking of that, Since they didn't,
they got CJ, and then they traded up and took
Will Anderson Junr.

Speaker 3 (02:09:28):
Who just gave that rical genius by their tremendous draft
drafting general manager go on, Well, I have a scenario
that where I think they they extend him this offseason
and they wait on CJ. I think the idea that
one is done and one is not as reasonable. I
don't know that it'll work out that way. I do
think this particular injury from CJ is impactful to what

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happens this offseason because Will be as simple as he
just missed a lot of time. So you're still buying
into what you think you have versus is what you
now have confirmed again that you have. I mean, does
this prevent them from making the playoffs for the third
straight year? Do you know all those things that you've
probably figured you were going to go into the offseason
with as you prepare a number and a negotiating strategy,

(02:10:14):
with how you're going to keep everybody happy and confirm
that what everyone thinks, you think you have your your
quarterback for the future, and that just might not be
in the cards now. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:10:24):
Well, I mean I'm not saying, oh, let's let's see
what CJ does in year four.

Speaker 3 (02:10:29):
Yeah, I think it's not like that. That's probably an
even better way to say it, because I don't think
there should be I really don't. I know, there's been
some down moments.

Speaker 5 (02:10:37):
This year and last year. What about if in year
four he does have a good line and then he
puts up insane numbers, Well, now you've got to pay
him even more money. Although it's probably not, it's I mean,
it's basically scale at this point.

Speaker 3 (02:10:50):
Even though it's not, it is. You're right, I mean,
look at who we're talking about two other teams at
points today, but Trevor Lawrence led Jaguars and the two
led Dolphins, they got scale wages both of those. Your
contract is coming up. You were a rookie draft pick,
you were a high draft pick, you had your fifth
year option. It's time for us to re up with you.
If we want you here, we don't have an option.

(02:11:12):
We're not taking the Kirk Cousins route and trying to
franchise tag you until you can't be here anymore. We're
giving you what every other quarterback that's a starting quarterback
from your position gets.

Speaker 5 (02:11:22):
I'm telling you right now, since you brought up those
exact two quarterbacks, there is nothing that could happen, including
injury by the way, catastrophic or otherwise, that would ever
make me think that CJ would be in a position
where it would make me regret giving him the type
of money that those two got. Because I guarantee both
of those teams and those fan bases right now, especially

(02:11:44):
in the case of Trevor Lawrence, if they're deep down,
if they really are honest about it, they wish they
could have that one back. But in both cases, I
don't know what you would have done, because the other
option is the alternative is, you know, trying to find
the guy wherever he is whenever.

Speaker 3 (02:12:01):
And in your situation, you're not at the bottom of
the league. You're Texans. Yeah, you're not even close. We're
talking about a scenario that he's not be talking. This
is not where they're headed none.

Speaker 5 (02:12:12):
Even if you want to take everything specifically centered around
CJ's game, not offensive line related, not receiver related, or
whatever else, not running back related, and you want to
say I want to nitpick, I want to pic nic
of CJ. Stroud's game, just I still don't think you
would come up with enough to where I would have

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any doubt that he's the franchise guy, because I still
think that when given the the proper protection, all the
other criticisms that we we talked about in this scenario,
he holds onto the ball too long or whatever, I
just think he's gonna put up insane numbers when he's
I just wish this guy was given a Pro Bowl line.
That's all I'm asking for, Just a competent line. Just

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Pro Bowl. Well, yeah, competent would be great. But he
said it yesterday. I was like, Wow, Wex is just
like swimming around in my head right now with what
he's thinking about this offensive line.

Speaker 3 (02:13:07):
Yeah. I think that's something we will get to at
length tomorrow because a lot of people did have thoughts
on something that I posted about where the Texans were
when you look at who they threw out there to
start that game. Yesterday. It was pretty damning about what
they've done to outfit a very important position group in
my opinion, and it wasn't anything new. It's been a
discussions here on this show for quite some time. You've

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got a general manager that puts a lot of good
players on this football team. Got another summer of it coming.
Demiko Ryans has a very talented roster that he and
Nick have helped put together. It's unfortunate that one area
of that roster is not very talented, and it is
very impactful to how you operate offensively week after week
after week.

Speaker 2 (02:13:44):
The age on Sports Talk seven ninety It is.

Speaker 3 (02:13:59):
The eighteen four SOX seven to ninety Space City Home network,
taking up till six o'clock tonight.

Speaker 5 (02:14:05):
You got Eagles and Packers tonight on Monday Night Football,
and we'll all be watching Shane Gillis.

Speaker 3 (02:14:11):
On the Manning Cast. Apparently we've made those plans.

Speaker 5 (02:14:14):
Now, we don't have a Rockets game until Wednesday night
when the Wizards come to town. And as it pertains
to that, I'll scratch their back a little bit because
they'll appreciate this.

Speaker 3 (02:14:26):
It's the first City edition game. Now you're not as
into this as I am, but you should be.

Speaker 5 (02:14:34):
If the Rockets, for whatever reason never go back to
the ketchup of mustards, which they should, but I don't
know if it's gonna happen, at least not anytime soon.
If they don't, I would be completely fine with this
being their permanent logo and color scheme. It kind of
looks like a little bit like those sixers one we
were talking about earlier, the red, white and blue, the

(02:14:55):
dunkctu're not logo on the court, which is already down.
You probably saw some social media about that. But tomorrow
they've got that event going on over at the arena
where you can get your hands on some of that gear,
and I'm sure you're going to be there buying all
the gear.

Speaker 3 (02:15:09):
Huge event tomorrow. Team Shop located inside Toyota Center for
the launch of the event ten to five tomorrow. A
dunction Nott will also be there for a small window
I believe beginning at eleven AM, and even smaller window
for somebody else. Rudy t Yep, he will be in
there as well. I think during between the hours of
eleven and one. I think those two Rockets legends will

(02:15:31):
be there separately. But yeah, these uniforms, and obviously the
court will be down for twenty eighteen twenty games summer
in that range, and this is the first one coming
up on Wednesday, which.

Speaker 5 (02:15:45):
Is interesting since the team they're playing has the exact
same color scheme red, white, and blue.

Speaker 3 (02:15:50):
They'll probably not be wearing whites, They'll be wearing it. No,
they'll be wearing colors. Yeah, I bet they'll be in
those those red ones. And yeah, Kim Whitmore returning to Houston,
where he will not have a tribute video. No, probably not,
not a huge part of what took place here. I'm
sure he would prefer if he just kind of moved on.

(02:16:12):
They're wearing their icon. Addition, the Wizards will be in red.
That's what I figured. But yeah, like you said earlier,
they should be. They should get three wins in their
next three games, and then we'll find out what happens
from there. But I would imagine, like Orlando, coming up
at the end of this three game stretch, they just
feel like they should be better than they are every year.

(02:16:34):
They have talent. And then I don't know if I
said it here on this show or maybe it was elsewhere.
I think Paolo Bencaro as the best player on their
team is a problem. We you know what's funny about that?

Speaker 5 (02:16:46):
That's the guy the Rockets were thinking they were gonna
get because everybody thought Orlando was gonna take Jabari Smith
Junior number one.

Speaker 3 (02:16:54):
And to this day, I would have that's fine. I
think he's a really, really good player. And the only
reason I say it's a problem is because I'm waiting
for something from him, and I'm still waiting. He puts
up big numbers his second season in the league. This
is obviously year four. Just like Jabari second season in
the league, he had a shooting percentage at forty five
and a half and he shot threes at thirty four percent,

(02:17:15):
which aren't great. But from his rookie year at age
twenty to twenty one, okay, he made improvements. Well, this
is two years later. He's shooting the exact same percentage
from the field, and he's a total disaster from behind
the three point line. He's at twenty two percent. He's
not averaging anything of great significance anywhere. He's a high
volume shooter. He's their number one option. He takes a

(02:17:35):
lot of shots, so he scores a lot of points.
He's extremely inefficient, and I don't know that i'd say
he's a winning player yet. I think it's a little
early to drop that on him from he joined a
bad team and they've been getting better and now they're
a playoffs team and things like that. So maybe that's
a little early. But I don't know if they have
the right guy in place. And honestly, his two postseason

(02:17:56):
performances the two years that they've been there, he played
very well, So maybe he's still they believe in him
because they've seen that from him. Well, what every game,
every night basis he's getting to twenty five points because
he's taking twenty two or three shots. Well, what has
Desmond Bine done for them?

Speaker 5 (02:18:16):
I thought that was gonna be like a surprise, like ooh, Orlando,
especially with the two teams having huge injuries the conference final,
well Celtics and the the Pacers have gone to the
Conference finals and the NBA Finals the last couple of seasons.

Speaker 3 (02:18:30):
I thought it would be like, you know, it's wide open.

Speaker 5 (02:18:32):
I know the knicks are there and all that, but
like I thought, Orlando would be way better to start
than they have been.

Speaker 3 (02:18:37):
I with him, don't know if what has happened to him.
I'm sure ten games is an unfair sample size. I mean,
Desmond Bane's an awesome three point shooter right not this year,
he's awful. Maybe he misses John Morant's antics. I don't
know what he misses. But they have some talent. Their
three best players are all very talented players. I don't

(02:18:58):
know that you're gonna win big with those three particular players.
I love the trade. I'm gonna give it some time here.
The East is definitely still open, although I think the
Pistons are trying to stay not so not so much
because we're awesome. The Pistons are awesome and they're Paolo
Benkaro and Kid Cunningham are no different. I drafted this
player number one because I think we're gonna build our

(02:19:18):
team around him and we're going to win. The difference
is the Pistons are correct, may not be. You know
what that trade did this summer so far, and it's
very early. It made Memphis in Orlando both worse than
they were. Memphis got all sorts of other problems internally.
I think their players hate their coach, as simple as
I can put it. I think his ideas, his ideas

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may work with a different group of players in a
different country, in a different league, where the money is
different and where the star power is different. I also
think I happen to think his ideas are just wrong.
I know that they worked over there. I know they
won a lot of basketball games. I don't think what
he's trying to do with Memphis and trying to keep
guys I want high in tons back basketball for every

(02:20:01):
minute you're out there. So here are my substitution patterns.
I think he's just making a big mistake. I think
he's being way too analytical and physiological with what he
thinks he can get out of their bodies, and not
it's it's game, you're playing basketball. Like Rick Adelman or
Mike D'Antoni may have had detractors, but one thing that
they were awesome at was watching the basketball game and

(02:20:23):
having a feel for Man, we're gonna do this because
we're gonna create this. We're gonna create some offensive flow,
we're gonna create some rhythm, and I find these pockets
for my players to he fits well with him, and
he plays well with them, and we're gonna keep going.
And this guy's the feel for the game. They're coaches
coaching basketball, Like, he has absolutely no feel for the
game and he's just opened up a book and this

(02:20:43):
is what the book is telling him to do. And
most people don't even think that works in baseball. Well,
definitely not gonna work in basketball.

Speaker 5 (02:20:49):
And that's why you have and again this is John Morant,
so take it for the source. But that's why you
have Jahn Morant talking about not having joy for the game.

Speaker 3 (02:20:56):
Now, yeah, it does not have joy for the game.
Just like he's a younger version of Jimmy Butler. And
if this is the way to get him out, he's
so disenchanted with being there, and I don't know that
that's the case, but if that's what his goal is,
what he's doing, we'll get him there. It works almost
every single time in the NBA. You get disenchanted with
the franchise, you are overtly anti whatever it is they're

(02:21:20):
trying to get you to do or what the team
is trying to do. You become a problem and they
find you a home.

Speaker 5 (02:21:25):
In the case of him, and this is the case
in any job, just not just NBA players, which there's
a very very small amount of population that can actually
do that it's about, you know, what you can provide,
what you can bring to the table relative to your problems,
you bring to the table, your baggage you bring to
the table. What team out there A is going to

(02:21:49):
want to take that on?

Speaker 3 (02:21:51):
And then b.

Speaker 5 (02:21:53):
What good team out there is going to go get him?
And even if they do get him, is he gonna
There's no guarantee he makes them better? And I know
Jimmy Butler has been That's a great analogy because everywhere
the same phrase, but it's everywhere he's gone, the same
thing has happened. He has made whatever team he got
to better initially, and then it eventually goes south, and

(02:22:17):
it'll go south and Golden State too, I promise.

Speaker 3 (02:22:19):
I don't think he'll be there long enough. Do you
think he's just gonna leave? I think his career is
gonna be over. I mean, he's older than we think.
They're so there his contract that he got by going there,
which again he talked his way off of one organization,
so he not only got to another organization but got
the money he was after. I think he'll just play
out the contract and his career will end. I mean,

(02:22:40):
Steph's already missing games because colds. They both missed time
together Draymond as well, and that's why they're well behind
the Rockets and the current very very early standings.

Speaker 5 (02:22:51):
Well John Hollinger knows what's up. And long season before
they'll have the number one or the number two seed
and the Rockets will.

Speaker 3 (02:22:58):
Be eight busy night in the Association this evening, Lakers
trying to take down the Hornets get to their eighth win.
What a huge opponent that is. The Charlotte Hornets. Wizards
will be coming to town after a trip to Detroit
tonight trying to get their second win.

Speaker 5 (02:23:13):
Another team, Well, they won't be coming off a back
to back so close. If only the Rockets didn't have
three straight days without playing.

Speaker 3 (02:23:21):
San Antonio on the road against one of the best
teams in the East by record.

Speaker 5 (02:23:27):
Let's hear it. The Bulls guy, you know what the
Bulls actually do look good this year.

Speaker 3 (02:23:33):
Stop it.

Speaker 5 (02:23:33):
He got crossed yesterday. He looked like he hurt himself.
He did, he hurt his pride. Look he heard his ankle.

Speaker 3 (02:23:40):
Well it was I will say one thing about the
game last night for the Rockets, because didn't really even
phase me, or he'd make me think twice about it.
Kevin Durant eleven for fifteen thirty one points. Yeah, what
he's been doing the whole time here in Houston. Didn't
even seem like he did that. Yeah, that's why I
said of Josh, Wait, he had thirty one. He's already

(02:24:02):
had three thirty point games in their first nine outings,
and it's just so smooth and easy. I love him
so much. Aren't thirty attempt games? They aren't. Man, he
is dominating the basketball. I wish he hadn't wasted his
career in state before he got here winning titles. We
get you to in case you missed it. That is next.

Speaker 2 (02:24:22):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:24:28):
Five thirty Each and every weekd Afternoon gets a reminder
of things we may have talked about but not recently
here on the show, or things we might have forgotten
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case you missed it. We do also want to remind
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fact we're able to do that for you, so we'll

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give you the details on the Jack Johnson concert coming
to Houston soon that we have tickets to give away
for you coming up in the final segment of the show.
But in case you missed it, what do we have today?
Cole Well, There was.

Speaker 7 (02:25:02):
A former Houston Texan and future Hall of Famer on
the call yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:25:05):
His name to j. J.

Speaker 10 (02:25:06):
Watt.

Speaker 3 (02:25:06):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 7 (02:25:07):
He knows defense was really good when he played for
the Texans, won three Defensive MVP Awards because if he
was just a stud. Texans go and outscore the Jacksonville
Jaguars twenty six to nothing in the fourth quarter, overcome
a nineteen point deficit, and later on CBS want to
get a better insight, Hey, what's going on with the
likes of this Texans defense? How were they able to

(02:25:30):
slow down Trevor Lawrence a company? What made them so
unique in this matchup to where it's going to keep them.

Speaker 3 (02:25:35):
In every game?

Speaker 7 (02:25:36):
And JJ wattball, you want to give a little.

Speaker 3 (02:25:38):
Bit of praise to his former team.

Speaker 12 (02:25:39):
These guys fly around with violent intentions. Every single level
of the defense just wants to hit people.

Speaker 3 (02:25:47):
And their leading.

Speaker 12 (02:25:48):
Tacklers Kamari Lasser quarterback on the edge, they just fly
around from every level today they're missing Jalen Petrie, who's
a big miss for them. Daniel Hunter called him a
missile in our meeting on Friday. But the defense is
just at the front level. They can get after you
with four, so you can cover on the back end,
but those cover guys in the back end can also run.

Speaker 3 (02:26:07):
Man to man all day long.

Speaker 12 (02:26:08):
It's just a very tough defense with not many weaknesses.

Speaker 3 (02:26:12):
That's pretty obvious with the statistics they put up. I
gave you a bunch of them earlier. Toughest to score against,
the toughest to move the ball against. And they also
have done just throwing the football because obviously Trevor Lawrence
had a terrible day throwing the football. The passer rating
against versus the Texans defense is number one in the
league by a very large margin, and nothing changed yesterday
with what they did to him, and he described it

(02:26:34):
very well. I gave you some insight on that last play.
They only rushed three on the final play. You know
there's a play that Jaguars only rushed three. It was
a third and two. I couldn't understand why they don't
have that type of defense. Texans had Mills drop back
and easily completed it. Past the Dalton Schultz and they
kept the change move. Texans do that and they still
can get after it. They obviously had the sack to

(02:26:55):
end the game ultimately resulted in points. They managed to
obviously figure out how to put together their secondary a
little bit. Remember they've gone from CJ. Gardner Johnson to MJ.
Stewart and now Stewart's season ended with the injury he
suffered from yesterday's game to his squad, and this was
a game where Petru was already out. So they'll figure
it out. I'm sure at safety again, those two spots

(02:27:16):
alongside Block and Peach, Benda, Lassner and Sting, But that
is a little bit of a concern as they move forward.
If the two guys up front keep doing what they're doing,
then they'll probably be fine. Four and a half sacks
between Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter in yesterday's game, and
as I said earlier, a three and a half sack,
four tackle for loss, one forced fumbled game had never

(02:27:40):
happened before in Texas history.

Speaker 5 (02:27:42):
Easily Nick Cassario's best free agency signing.

Speaker 3 (02:27:46):
Yet, no question about it. And for as much grief
as we've given him, certainly I've given him for this
off season's work and free agency and trades and maybe
even the draft. Adding EJ. Speed was very good. Chris
Harris has meant almost nothing to the defense this year.
It's fairly wild to me. Henry Toatoa, I think rightfully
has been on the field, but he's clearly been surpassed

(02:28:09):
by e J. Speed on most days. They played a
lot of the three linebackers yesterday because of the Petrie injury,
but it gives them the flexibility to do so when
they want. EJ. Speed has helped this team defensively. That
was a smart ad for the Texans, but good to
know that Coe's dad likes the team.

Speaker 7 (02:28:25):
What else, well, he did have a very very very
near costly false start penalty. Besides that, tay Or Surrey,
once again by Pro Football Focus graded out as one
of the highest Texans offensive linemen. He only allowed to
pressures according to PFF, and continuously grows as an overall
replacement for Lamy Tunsel and lo and Behold. Not only

(02:28:46):
do PFF believe that we've seen growth and maturity from
the second round pick, so does Mika Ryan's.

Speaker 11 (02:28:52):
He did a great job of battling We know how
the first game ended, you know with Jacksonville, so I
know offendedbody, there's a lot of pride in himself to
go out and you know, kind of correct what went
wrong in the first game. And I thought he'd did
a great job all game protecting getting out on the heads.
There are a couple of plays we had on the
left side, you know, getting the ball outside. You know

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we're springing those plays because of what Tay is doing.
So as a rookie, again playing the toughest position, you know,
on the offensive line, he's doing a great job holding
his own as a rookie, and he's getting better as
the season is going on.

Speaker 3 (02:29:27):
If we all don't know how the other Jacksonville game ended,
that was the interception that CJ threw when Josh heinz
Allen beat barely beat Tay Ersery around the outside. I
don't think CJ anticipated that he would be in position
to hit his arm on the release of the football.
I don't know if Erseri did either, because I'm not
saying he got he whed or anything on that, but

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he got your quarterback's arm hit and the ball fluttered
and the ball was picked off and the game ended.
When you were in position almost in the red zone
to maybe score the game tying touchdown. Fifth of the
offensive line is in good hands, it is currently and
I doubt we will really do like him. The same
five that we saw Sunday. I don't think we'll see
the same five again on the upcoming Sunday when they

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make their trip to Nashville for the final visit, their
final meeting between the Texans and the worst team in
the American Football Conference. What else do we have?

Speaker 7 (02:30:21):
Well, we brought this up on the rundown, and I
thought it would be important bring too because in case
you didn't miss it, the catch of the year happened
out in State College, Pennsylvania this past weekend between Indiana
and penn State. Down by four, Fernando Mendoza has his
highestman moment finds the back of the.

Speaker 3 (02:30:38):
End zone for Omar Cooper.

Speaker 7 (02:30:41):
And that may have been a great play, but what
was even better the call from Gus Johnson Mendoza didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:31:01):
Get his foot down.

Speaker 1 (02:31:02):
It's really gonna be touch.

Speaker 3 (02:31:08):
Oh my goodness, it's fantastic. It was. Now I'll read
you four separate headlines from entities that had something to
say about that particular call Indiana's epic comeback win over
Penn State broke Gus Johnson. Omar Cooper Junior's touchdown catch

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leaves Fox and ouncer Gus Johnson speechless. Fox and ouncer
Gus Johnson loses his voice on number two Indiana's game
winning TD. But I think this one is the one
I would go with. Sorry, but Gus Johnson's call of
Omar Cooper's touchdown was horrible. What Tysian is awesome. I

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love Gus. I'd love that. If he's doing the game,
I know it's going to be exciting. He's on it,
it's likely to finish the football is going to make
it exciting. But he's so good at what he does.
And I'm saying this with all sincerity. He's probably my
favorite college football announced. And you just didn't like how
it came out, as I do you realize why the headlines.
He just happened to lose his voice during the screen

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fast more time, so it just did not sound very good.

Speaker 7 (02:32:13):
Just for everyone to make sure you hated this.

Speaker 3 (02:32:21):
Yeah, that's what it sounds like when your soul leaves
your body. Not even in Gus's top fifteen. He's so
good He's got fifteen other calls better than that. I
think he really couldn't believe it. Well, I get that,
but he just didn't sound it just it was a
physical thing. It was his voice was soft. It was fine.
He's a very nice guy, by the way, He's an
awesome guy I have I obviously you've met him before.

Speaker 5 (02:32:44):
Butch Allison Door hooked it up. I told him I
was a fan. He goes, well, I know him from Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (02:32:49):
You want to meet him? I go, yes, I would.

Speaker 5 (02:32:50):
So he took me up to the booth he was
doing a Texans preseason game.

Speaker 3 (02:32:53):
That's awesome. Yeah, no, he just took a picture with him.
Really good at his job, really good dude. Yes, most
people and you hate him do agree with me, which
is even better. I can't. I know you like him.

Speaker 2 (02:33:05):
The A Team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:33:17):
Back here on the eight team. Great to be back
here on the A team, I should say. After a
phenomenal sports weekend, hopefully more of the same this week
goes without saying. When we get to Friday air for
our Stone Cold locks, our college football game of the
week evening game, Georgia hosting the Texas Longhorns. Tomorrow night
we will get our second installment of the college football

(02:33:39):
rankings after this weekend shook them up just a little bit.
Big win for Texas Tech. I think at this point
in the season they are the best team in the
Big Twelve, and they likely will be half of the
Big Twelve title game matchup, and they'll put themselves in
a very good position for the postseason. Cougar's got a
big win late with a late interception to prevent either

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a game tying field goal attempt or potentially a game
losing touchdown when they went to Orlando to take on
Central Florida. I was there, as people say, it was fantastic.
We'll get to a few more items on that of
the week. Unfolds. Do want to mention we've got tickets
to give away. As I did last segment for those
of you that were listening, something in particular that was
said here on today's program will be the answer to

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three two one two five seven ninety if you know
the answer to this question, what is it? The question? Yes, Ah,
do I need to give it? Because I will.

Speaker 5 (02:35:01):
I think you need to give it because I didn't
know you were going to do that. Wex and man,
I gotta come up with a question.

Speaker 3 (02:35:06):
Oh perfect, I'll talk for two and a half minutes
so he can because he just asked me to go
with this guy's weird. Every day we do this and
then we act like it wasn't pre playing. Not every day. No,
we just had a segment. Just had a segment. It's
called in case you missed it. It was a fantastic
college football finish with a team there's only a few
that are undefeated still and with a late great touchdown catch,

(02:35:29):
that team won their game and remain undefeated. Who was
on the television microphone for that game winning touchdown catch
that we talked about last segment, pretty easy seven one
three two one two five seven ninety wex hated the call.
I was not a fan of it because this particular
announcer is arguably the best at what he does, and

(02:35:53):
I just found out that I just found that this
particular call didn't sounds as good as so many of
his others. As he acknowledged, and as you could hear,
he kind of lost his voice during the call. It's
happened to a lot of people. It's happened to me before.
It's okay, Well, you usually use your voice when you're
asking questions of duke players. Yeah, that was just probably
that's the opposite of that. I hadn't been talking enough.

(02:36:15):
Was your throat dry? Is that what happened there? I
don't have an answer. Was it a tickle? I just
I couldn't speak.

Speaker 5 (02:36:22):
That's actually my worst nightmare because it can happen very randomly,
and they usually.

Speaker 3 (02:36:27):
Like we talked for four hours, It almost never happens
while we're doing this, because you're talking, we do two
and a half hour, three hour basketball games. Pretty much
never happens there either. At host TV shows, you've been
on team, doesn't usually ever happen there. I was watching
a basketball game and then went to a press conference afterwards,
and you know me, even though there's people sitting around me,
I probably didn't say one word to them for two
and a half hours. And then I tried to ask
a question at a press conference. My voice said, no,

(02:36:50):
you are not. It was so good though it was
so entertaining. I think it's way more entertaining because I
know you. Every year that has passed, especially since coach
k stepped out, I'm always hopeful that the Blue Devils
will come to a Houston Regional or whatever part of.

Speaker 5 (02:37:07):
The nsament get reacquainted with John Shire, John player.

Speaker 3 (02:37:11):
When you ask that question, Owen Smith, where the two
duke players at the podium at the NRG basketball postseason games.
I can't remember it was regional or what it was,
and they were the players laughing their butts off as
I could not ask the question. You know, it is
the weirdest part about their head coach. Now, yeah, did
not know. Yeah, it was twenty ten, I think is
when that was, and it could happen this year.

Speaker 5 (02:37:36):
Yeah, I don't want to see a Boozer family member
win a championship.

Speaker 3 (02:37:40):
Well it doesn't necessarily. They could come here and lose
before they even get to the final four. Boozer wasn't
on the team last year, was he?

Speaker 2 (02:37:47):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:37:47):
I think he's several years removed. No, no, no, I'm talking
about so he's a freshman.

Speaker 5 (02:37:52):
Okay, So Cooper Flag leaves, Carlos Boozer's offspring arrives.

Speaker 3 (02:37:58):
And then next year somebody else, Yes, like this will
be a one and donner for you.

Speaker 5 (02:38:02):
Never trust a Boozer, by the way, he deceived a
blind man once over contract negotiations. It's just I don't
give down with people like that. That's understandable, even though
the blind man was probably a billionaire who was trobally
probably trying to get.

Speaker 3 (02:38:15):
Over on him. It's got rings. It's not that guy,
is it. I thought so. I thought that was the
prior ownership before the current ownership of the Calves took over.
Is it Dan Gilbert? Oh? Yes, that is my mistake.

Speaker 5 (02:38:29):
Yeah, because it was Glenn something or other. Yep, it
was his name that was blind By the way, have
you seen the latest totally conspiracy theory theory about Lebron
James that he is far.

Speaker 3 (02:38:41):
More attached to the gambling scandal, so he's sidelined because
of it. No, he went down a different road than
I AM thought you would. I mean he is technically
attached to it because none of the Damon Jones portion
of it is very difficult to happen if he's not
so close. Correct, No, no, no, This has to do with
his current injury situation. He has a bad back.

Speaker 5 (02:39:00):
A lot of people think sciatica specifically, A lot of
people think it's not as bad as he's letting on
that he thought the team he was going to see
how the team was going to do without him, and
now that they're doing well without him, maybe the next
step happens. And that The part of this conspiracy theory

(02:39:20):
that got my attention, that brings us to this conversation
is that a lot of people think the only team
that would even be interested him in him if he
were to move on from LA would be the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Speaker 3 (02:39:31):
Cavaliers. That's pretty love theories. That's a wild one. I
don't know if it's wild.

Speaker 5 (02:39:38):
When you consider the more we find out about Lebron,
the less of a good duty.

Speaker 3 (02:39:43):
Seems like he actually is. He's fine. I wouldn't say.
I don't think if he plays basketball, he does a
whole lot more than that. He sets out basketball games.
He does that too, has kids that become NBA players,
say plural. I would typical second round pick who sits
at the end of the bench, totally normal. There's nothing

(02:40:06):
typical or normal about Bronnie James. He's like all the
rest of them. I don't I still don't know why
people think it's otherwise because of the way he's covered
there doesn't have anything to do with what he's doing
as a player. Well, you asked how he was different.
That's how he's that's how it's different. Well it isn't different.
In the last minute of the show, no, I'm glad

(02:40:27):
you shifted it to Bronni because fighting about Lebron is
way worse. I don't think it's worse. I think it's stupid.
Why because he plays basketball. He hasn't played basketball in
a long long time. He's been out there, That's what
I mean. He's he's sidelined, so when he comes back,
they're probably gonna be worse. And they started with seven

(02:40:49):
wins in nine games.

Speaker 5 (02:40:51):
Well, in that he might take shots away from the
actual good player on their team, see guys, not Austin Well, no,
both of them actual as is good and Austin Reeves
actually plays defense unlike Luca. But that's what I was
talking about when I said when de Aaron Fox comes back,
like Spurs have a good thing going all without him.

Speaker 3 (02:41:11):
I'm not trying to like make it more. No, it's
a good thing for them to have figured a few
things out without him. Then he'll mix in with Castle,
They'll take some other players minutes away that they'd probably
prefer to. Both Champagne and Harrison Barnes playing starters minutes
probably not ideal for the Spurs long term, so this
will alleviate that neat Hopefully either way they start losing
more games. I'm sure they will. Everyone's most teams other

(02:41:33):
than the Lakers are pretty healthy to.

Speaker 5 (02:41:35):
Start the year. Yeah, I just meant I went to
Spurs to start losing. Yes, they will, all right? Good
glad we have that confirmed. Plenty more to discuss on
the Texans win and more when we come back in
here for another full show tomorrow afternoon at two o'clock.

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Speaker 3 (02:43:27):
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Speaker 1 (02:43:30):
This is the nightcap with Cole Thompson.

Speaker 3 (02:43:33):
Reg cab, right cap, red cab. Sure, okay, goodbye. You
know I'd be really nice.

Speaker 7 (02:43:42):
Every once in a while if you guys let people
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Of course, why would you who? We do have a show.
It is the Nightcap. You're shirly col Thompson.

Speaker 7 (02:43:50):
Rockers jun seven o'clock seven one three, two, one two
five seven ninety him on in give your thoughts on
the Rockets getting a signature one twenty two one fifteen
win on Sunday over the Milwaukee Bucks. You're Texans, they
get back onto the winning ways. But they honestly fantastic
comeback that I think anybody really saw happening, Like not

(02:44:11):
even yours truly in the booth could have envisioned that
being the case. Even if the up points are gonna
be scored, Nope, not bad. Uh, whether it be your astros,
your Cougar's finding a way to win a ucf Land
the Bounce House or Orlando, whatever to goes your fancy
seven one thirty two, one two, five, seven ninet if
you watch im on in, let's just go ahead and
rip off the band aid. Texans win emphatically awesome performance

(02:44:35):
by Davis Mills. The neck delivered. It was awesome, nineteen
point differential. And to watch this offense figure out how
to put it all together. Two hundred and ninety two
passing yards, throw on another twenty rushing, including the game
winning fourteen yards scramble with thirty seconds left, three straight

(02:44:55):
scoring tribes, and then if that wasn't enough, to go
ahead and warn your heart. As a Houston Texans fan,
we got the greatest three words echoed in all of football.
Say it with me, layies and gentlemen, big man touchdown,
a sack by Will Anderson, a scoop and score by
Sheldon Rankins. The overhit, so did the minus one and

(02:45:18):
a half in favor of Houston, and everyone walks away happy.

Speaker 3 (02:45:21):
Houston.

Speaker 7 (02:45:21):
Sitting at four and five, the Jacksonville Jaguars moved to
five and four. We all come to the realization, holy crap,
Trevor Lawrence was truly one of the most overhype prospects
we have ever seen in the NFL. And now the
Texans moved toward Nashville, they get an opportunity to start
things off on a right note in Division play.

Speaker 3 (02:45:43):
Moved to three and one on the.

Speaker 7 (02:45:44):
Year, split the series with the Jags, win and sweep
the Tennessee Titans, and go to five and five. Now
you're asking your probubrself is okay, well, where's the shoe
gonna drop? Where's Cole gonna turn this carriage into a
place of pure misery?

Speaker 3 (02:46:01):
And I'll tell you, ladies and gentlemen, goes right here.

Speaker 7 (02:46:05):
What was the bigger takeaway from last night or yesterday afternoon?
The Texans finding a way to win this football game
or the Jacksonville Jaguars finding a way to cough it up.

Speaker 3 (02:46:13):
I hate to be the bearer of bad news.

Speaker 10 (02:46:15):
It's the ladder.

Speaker 3 (02:46:16):
I think Houston's fine team.

Speaker 7 (02:46:18):
I think Houston certainly has enough of an overall spark
at this point to say, hey, we can get back
in this race and then buy in this race.

Speaker 3 (02:46:25):
I mean, you can make things interesting down the stretch.

Speaker 7 (02:46:28):
You certainly can put together a couple of game winning
drives that maybe give you a little bit more of
a spark, But guys, this was more of an implosion
on Jacksonville than it was a victory for Houston. Far
and away Texans still are a sub five hundred teen
with losses to a Broncos roster that couldn't find any

(02:46:49):
functioning offensive personnel up until the fourth quarter when bo
Nick's scoot and boogie is way up and down the
field for a twenty six yard strike. Lost to Tampa
Bay on the home in a fourth quarter communtion lost
the same Jacksonville Jaguars team that had no offensive identity
up until literally you saw the big time run from

(02:47:10):
Travis Etn and Brian Thomas Junior and a Los Angeles
Rams team that looks good, but you had them in
your grasp until you kind of let them go.

Speaker 3 (02:47:17):
That's what you lost to.

Speaker 7 (02:47:19):
You have a win over at Baltimore Ravens team to
where if hindsight was twenty twenty, you played them in
week eight versus in week five when nine defensive starters
were out and you didn't have Lamar Jackson out there,
you probably lose that game and you get embarrassed by
the Seattle Seahawks, who do look like a top ten
team that just.

Speaker 3 (02:47:34):
Got on the bottom line.

Speaker 7 (02:47:35):
Jacksonville, I think yesterday kind of showed you they were
playing with house fire. They were playing with fools gold
for a while. And I even said this when I
was doing the Space Saty Saturday show this past week.
I don't believe in Jacksonville. I don't believe that they
are a playoff team. You get a barely signature win
over Kansas City because of nobody can tackle Trevor Lawrence
inside the red zone. You take down a beaten up

(02:47:58):
and bruised San Francisco forty nine ers team, and you
find a way to just get the job done against
the Texans and the Las Vegas Raiders, one of which
came in overtime.

Speaker 3 (02:48:09):
We're talking about a team that very.

Speaker 7 (02:48:11):
Well could be sitting at two and seven, but they're
at five and four because if they just got by
the skin of their teeth. And I think that Sunday
was the culmination of Hey for anybody out there that
still is believing that this team was good enough to
make a run of the playoff. And Liam Cohen was
changing the culture, and Liam Cohen and James Gloveson, We're
gonna be too good.

Speaker 3 (02:48:30):
Fine, it's not. It isn't.

Speaker 7 (02:48:34):
You have a nineteen point lead against Davis frickin' Mills
and you find a way to shoot yourself in the foot.
What does that tell me? It says everything about where
this team currently is in terms of contention. That doesn't
mean that Houston can't make a run or that Jacksonville
because of the way their schedule is with the third
I mean with the fourth play schedule, they can't find

(02:48:54):
an opportunity to beat up on Arizona and Tennessee and
the Jets and the Titans, and they're could end up
being somewhere around seven and ten. Like I could see that,
But the Texans also could be sitting at seven and ten.
I like this Texan scene in terms of what I
know about them.

Speaker 3 (02:49:11):
You found a way to beat.

Speaker 7 (02:49:12):
Up on an overrated roster that, in my opinion, never
really was able to find its footing whatsoever. They got
handed wins. That's Jacksonville for you. Jacksonville got lucky to
get a win over the tamp I mean over the Panthers.
They got lucky to get a win over the forty
nine ers. They got lucky to get a win over
the Chiefs. They were embarrassed by the Seahawks. They were

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absolutely flabbergasted by the Rams.