A Texas-Size Win On The Court! A Rhode Island-Size Win On The Gridiron

Wex and AC return from the weekend to dicuss the Texans win over the Titans, despite needing a game-winning field goal to decide the outcome against the worst team in the NFL, along with the Rockets' comeback win over the Magic! So, where do each team go from here? And is C.J. Stroud out for another week? 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam raised.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
My girl.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Nolan multipot with the magnificent roller coaster ride that is
Houston sports chill age down for the only homegrown afternoon
team is talking Your teams.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
What's up, Houston, Welcome into another week of the A Team.
Wex ac with you on a victory victory Monday.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
See what I did there? There's two victories.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
I mean there are other victories over the weekend, but
for the purposes of yesterday's festivities, both of the NFL
and NBA variety thrilling come from behind victories. Well thrilling
come from behind victory.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
And then the.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Texans played the Titans. That's how I would sum that up.
I had a feeling that Yesterday's Texans game was gonna
be a little bit of a if not a snooze fest,
and a little slow moving, maybe not a lot about
lighting up the scoreboard. I had no idea that the
fourth quarter of the first time those two teams played

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each other would be like, I don't know, museum worthy
compared to all sixty minutes of that game yesterday. I
know they kicked a game winner. I know that it
was a you know, just like a slog fest.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
Oh man, it was bad. It was really bad.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
It was it kept your theory alive and everyone else cooperated.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Well you totally.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
I can't believe I didn't get an I told you
so about the Chiefs Broncos game yet text.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
I mean, well, we'll get into that.

Speaker 6 (02:08):
I'm sure that game probably went as many people thought
it would, other than maybe the final score. Texans, that's
not winning football against good football teams. It's winning football
against the worst team in the NFL. So that's all
they needed to do. It's the only team they played
on Sunday. It's the only team they needed to be
concerned with. All they had to do is outscore them,
and they managed to do that. By the time the
clock hits zero after sixty minutes of football, your backup

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quarterback is out there, and there were times where it
looked like it their running game was absent. Yet again,
they've had a few games like that, and unfortunately what
they've done way too often. And this spans the entire
time that Tamiko Ryans has been their head coach. I'm
not saying it's his fault, but it does run through
these three years that CJ. Stroud's been the quarterback and
they've put together a team they want to win with,
and they've won back to back division titles and now

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they have a five hundred team this year. They do
not like drama free football, and it certainly seems like
they have been positions many times over the last three years.
The forty four regular season games that they've played, and
so many of them one score games, dramatic finishes, very.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Very unnecessary death.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
Titans didn't do the things necessary to keep the Texans
from scoring any points in the first half. The Texans
came out in the second half, and what did the
Titans do differently nothing, nothing, And the Texans scored a touchdown,
a field goal, a field goal, and a field goal.
There's no reason that should not have happened in the
first half. And I'm not even getting into whether or
not you agree or disagree with not kicking a field

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goal to open up the game and just getting points
out of that fifteen play drive rather than getting no
points out of that fifteen play drive, and ultimately you
were trailing to the Tennessee Titans in this football game.
After they kicked a field goal and a second field
goal before you got any points to open up the
third quarter. But the better team ended up winning. And
it's not really who how much how close they are.

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They've played two games for the majority of it where
the Titans probably thought that they could win. I can
sense frustration from them and that they have found a
way to lose every single time they're out there. You
have to look at it from both sides. The Texans
miracle found a way to win getting three field goals
from a kickers probably not NFL caliber, and the Titans,
as has been the case throughout the year, they're just

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finding ways to come out on the wrong end of it.
It's good that the Texans had them this week. Are
probably good that the Texans had the Jacksonville Jaguars last week.
Those are beatable football teams. When the Texans play teams
that are on the very very plus side of you
better believe we're going to the playoffs. Well, the Texans
haven't beaten those teams. What they have done, though, that
would have dramatically changed their season to date and will

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need to keep doing to make sure their season does change.
Is they won a close game after two and a
half hours at some point, Okay, we're close.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
These teams are even enough.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
On this particular Sunday, one of these two teams is
going to make the play or play is necessary to
win it. And for the entire season prior to last
week's game against Jacksonville, the same team made it every time.
Not the Texans, whoever they were up against, those were
the guys making the plays every single time. That's why
they were zero for the season in close games. They
lost all of their one score games. Now they won

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to one score games. Now they have a Buffalo Bills
game that is extremely important. The Bills took care of
business on their end, or else the Texans would be
playing this game with a chance to pass them. They
passed the Kansas City Chiefs and the standings, although that
will get situated more clearly when they meet one another
in early December from a tiebreaker standpoint, but ten games

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into the season, the team quarterback by c. J. Stroud
and Davis Mills has the same record as the team
quarterback by Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, it's weird because I felt like the Chiefs last
season were more like they actually are this year. In
other words, their record indicates the type of team they are.
They just kept finding ways to win those games last year,
even by a toe, if you will, in the Baltimore
game and the opener. But I just it's I've kind

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of they've been irritating for a long time in that
you didn't think they were as good as maybe years past.
They're a lot like the Warriors in that way, like
the Warriors this past season that matched up against the
Rockets and the playoffs, that's that was such a just
kind of similar loss to last I just thought the
Texans should have won that football game had they not

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shot themselves in the foot.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Sound familiar.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
It's kind of like how it went with the Warriors
and the Rockets in last year's postseason. But this year, yeah,
I mean I had no doubt they were going to
beat the Denver Broncos. I just figured they would find
a way. Because even and that's not taking anything away
from the Broncos defense, it certainly showed yesterday why they're
one of the top ones in the NFL, one of
the top defensive units. But not finding a way if

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you're Patrick Mahomes, that's not common. That's not something that
you usually talk about.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
You should if you're here living in the present, right
that is the Chiefs, like just got finished talking about
the Texans. Well, they went out there and they played
all these one score games, and they aren't the team
making the plays at the end, and they kept losing them.
They've turned the tide at least a little bit against
not very good competition. I know Jacksonville did what they
did yesterday, but I still stand by that. But now
they have two wins in one score games, two wins

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at the end, two wins essentially the last time, the
last play of the game for their offense in the
win over Jacksonville put them in front and won the
game with thirty one seconds left. The last play of
the game literally for their offense won them the game.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
This week.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
Well, those are plays that win you games. Those are
things you need to do, obviously, all the plays lead
up to it. A great two minute drive, a great
pass and catch on third and sixteen. Well that's exactly
what the Chiefs still haven't done even one time this
entire season. They've played five close games. They're zero to five,
and yesterday was as another example of watch that game

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and just drop Texans jerseys on the Chiefs for most
of this year, and you wouldn't know the difference. They're
the ones who couldn't make the defensive play to keep
the Broncos from getting into extremely easier, much much easier
field goal range as that time went down. They were
the team that left some points on the board. They
were the team that was settling for this. They got
a late big play obviously with the touchdown with Kelsey,

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weren't able to convert more points there. Game ended with
the Broncos kicking a game winning field goal. This has
happened to the Chiefs all season in twenty twenty five.
Mahomes isn't nearly as sharp this year as he has
been in previous years. He's not awful by any means,
but he's not nearly the obvious MVP candidate. We'd be
ten eleven weeks into the first five seasons of Mahomes
as a starter, and we'd already know who the front

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runner for the MVP.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
Was, because it would be him.

Speaker 6 (08:34):
He's not even a consideration for it, just because of
how he and their offense and their defense was not
nearly as good as the season ago. The Texans are
now in position to make sure that this team doesn't
get in their way. They will play them head up.
They have the same record. But unfortunately some of the
other results from Sunday didn't exactly help the Texans. Jacksonville

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beating up on the Chargers the way that they did,
just handling them, taking an early lead and just burying
them as the game continued, winning thirty five to six,
largely because they had a great day running the football.
Trevor Lawrence had another Trevor Lawrence like game. He's just
along for the ride, so nobody's afraid of them, but
they're in your way, and they stayed ahead of you
by a game, which is unfortunate. The Buffalo Bills took

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care of business against a very good Bucks team, and
they went back and forth and back and forth, but
the final two knockout punches were thrown by the Bills,
turning a late to deficit into a relatively easy victory
and cover by scoring forty four points.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
And that's the win.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
They will hop on a bird with to come to
Houston for their game on Thursday.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Thursday.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
We had we are four days, three days, three and
changed days away from my Thursday night football game of
the Battle red variety in case you're into that sort
of thing.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Yeah, I had a pretty good idea that was the
route they were going when I was one was over
there earlier. But I'm a huge, huge fan of the helmets,
and why not if you're gonna go red, why not
all go blood red?

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Just just fire it all up there. And by the way,
your stone cold blocks. This weekend highly irritated me. Well,
the Bills game was one.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
I was like, yeah, this is exactly what I thought,
back and forth, back and forth. The Bucks will keep
it within five and a half, and they you know,
there were a couple of times because of two point
conversions that I thought perfect. The Bills just went in
front and they missed the conversion, so they're up five.
This is perfect. It can't get much better than this.
And then they give him another touchdown and did not

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cover's okay.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
And then Texas Georgia. I've tried to fade you guys.
It was looking good and then it wasn't.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
That was an interesting one.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
We obviously need to spend a little bit more time
on that as we continue to get a little bit
closer to what will finally be where these teams ultimately rest,
both for a conference championship game standpoint and the twelve
team playoff standpoint. That's a big hurt on the Horns
hopes to get there. A victory in their final two
games Arkansas this week in Austin and their finale against

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Texas A and M, who remained undefeated. Wins in those
games doesn't do anything to guarantee them a spot. Other
things would certainly have to fall in place and then
have some very friendly faces inside the voters booths for
the committee to see if they could still get in.
But they also didn't play like a team that's going
to beat Texas A and M later in the season.
So we'll definitely jump in on the rest of the
college football scene and the way that Texas A and

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M played a very very poor first thirty and a
very very spectacularly good final thirty to ensure that they
would be one of the three remaining undefeated teams in
college football. All of that to say nothing about how
exciting it was over at Toyota Center last night, as
the Rockets made it a clean sweep of their three
game homestand winning two games very easily Wednesday and Friday.

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Friday's game the second of their two NBA Cup games,
of another one this Friday at home. But yesterday's game
was a whole lot different. No Palo Banco, no Jalen
Suggs for a good but not great Orlando Magic team,
and this was a struggle from the jump. Magic got
out to a huge lead. It took forever for the
Rockets to come back, but the fourth quarter Rockets really

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passed a big test last night. Two huge threes from KD,
a miracle finish which included, oh my god, I cannot
believe the Rockets just did that into a what an
easy little pass into Alpa for a little drop in
to tie the game and send it to overtime and
everything else that went in between. Definitely want to jump
in on that conversation. Also, it's great to be back

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with you, guys. I had a nice couple of days away,
had a lot of activities to bring into our show today.
We got the Good, bad, and the Ugly coming up
at four point thirty, and obviously one segment in that
leaves us just one segment away from the best of X.
And if you don't think there was good stuff going
on on social media, happy stuff, controversial stuff, ridiculous stuff.

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It's always there. We'll do all that as we continue
on a Monday edition of The A Team.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
All right, it is the eight Team Sports Talk seven ninety.
I'm gonna do something a little out of character for
a Monday. We'll give the Texans I promise at the
very tail end of last segment, we kind of just
mentioned under the radar. Oh, by the way, it was
a really exciting game at Toyota Center last night. First
and foremost, I hate it when it's not a game
I'm doing because that means Wex gets to have all

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the fun.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
That had to be.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
Definitely looking out for himself, he would prefer the Rockets
to lose big time when you're.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Doing the game I'm working. Yeah, that's basically got a
saying no.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Like that had to be ten billion times more fun
in person than it was on TV. And it was
a lot of fun as I was watching it last night.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
Great crowd, a great atmosphere, obviously, great basketball being played. Honestly,
the Magic I don't know that this is how they
figured it would go with Desmond Baine, but he was
awful for their first eight games. Or so, and as
ben Cao went down, Wagner was hurt a little bit. Obviously,
he's still playing. Jalen Suggs has now missed four games.

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They need him, and he's slowly starting to turn his
magic season around into the player that the Grizzlies had
and moved him for or moved along from.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
He was very, very good. He was awesome in the
fourth quarter.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
He carried them into the Rockets would have won in
regulation if not for him. So it's a little bit
better team than you would think for someone that's missing
someone the caliber of ben Caero.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
But we'll get into more magic stuff.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
The bottom line is the Rockets could not figure out
how to get past them. They were down early and
they just never could get past them. They got within
one possession all throughout the second third and early in
the fourth quarter, and every time they did the magic
hand answers and from you name it that you've never
heard of, probably from the magic side, they went out
there and got it done for him. Rockets did not
shoot the ball well. I don't know that it was

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the Magic's defense, but I do think their defense around
the basket was pretty good. And then the things that
started to turn in the rockets favor and they just
kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. The Rockets started
dominating on the glass. They started getting all these extra chances.
It's one of the reasons why Alpi's and Steven adams
shooting numbers were disastrous. Like Alpra and Shinghun set this

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game to overtime with probably the biggest shot of his
career on the first game of his career where he
missed twenty shots. He'd never missed more than seventeen shots.
It's a big enough number. He missed twenty shots in
last night's game. He made one of his ten attempts
to close out the game.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
Guess which one.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
But they just started doing all the things that they've
done all year that helps them win games. And if
you want, you can render our Rockets conversation unnecessary, useless,
and a waste of your time if you just say
the simple things they have.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant's awesome.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
I mean, it's like I'm watching it, I know what's
gonna happen, and it still is amazing when you see
it happen like this. I'm gonna wave off this screen
just no, get get out of here. I'm gonna isolate.
Oh look, I'm just casually looking at the shot clocks
down the five, down the four. Let me just make
my move, get the defender off kilter, and just fade up,

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and there's no doubt it was going in, just like
there was no doubt when he hit the three pointer
to tie it, I had no doubt that was going in.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
He was one for seven on threes when that three
pointer dropped. He was zero for six on threes when
the three pointer before that dropped to put them in
front by one. He ended up with obviously a tremendous line.
He was doing the things he's been doing all year,
finding teammates open and just kind of letting things come
to him. In this game. It was very noticeable, though.
He noticed it that they need me today. There is

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no offense coming from anywhere else consistently.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
They need me.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
When I was mentioning Alprinch Goons evening Amen Thompson hit
two field goals the first forty eight minutes. He couldn't
figure out how to get anything going offensively at all
against how the Magic were defending the rockets. He hit
two dunks in overtime and late in the game, so
it helped a little bit. He didn't have any offense
from Joshua Kogi. He didn't have any offense from Steven Adams,
so finding baskets was diffa They ended up with one

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to seventeen. They were headed towards their worst offensive game
of the season, without a doubt. They had their lowest
scoring first half of the season. They had their second
worst shooting game of the season through the first twenty
four minutes, and all of this gets talked about as
they won the game. They won the game despite going
five for sixteen in overtime. They took ten more shots

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in five minutes than the Magic. Magic hit half of
their shots in overtime. They went three for six. The
Rockets went five for sixteen in five minutes because they
kept getting five is bigger than three. Five is bigger
than three because they got so many extra opportunities because
they kept getting offensive rebounds.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
One of those possessions was like three or four alone.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
Oh so many of their possessions last night out and
Steven couldn't buy a tip in, but they just kept
getting them and they ended up with another plus twenty
more than plus twenty in the rebound game. Those are
the things that'll be with you pretty much every single night.
They've been really good from the free throw line. That
paid off. They were the much much better free shooting
team last night. Orlando missed a lot of key free throws,

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including at the end of the game if you missed it,
Rockets inbounding the ball after a great defensive play and
a review which got the Rockets to the basketball out
of a timeout five point one seconds remaining on their
side of the court. They have Kevin Durant, That's who
they ultimately tried to get the ball to, and he
fell and the ball went off his hand. Anthony Black

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picked it up. Looked like he had a clean open dunk.
Instead he had got a dunk and got fouled. And
when he gets fouled, with the situation that they're looking
at there, you're like, oh my god, they were about
to win the game, or take the last shot, or
go to overtime. Instead they're going to be down three
looking for a miracle. Miracle Number one was he missed

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the free throw. They got the rebound. Very little time
went off the clock. They still had a time out
left to advance the ball, and the Magic decided not
to defend the inbounds passer, So amn Thompson, who is
now the inbounds passer down two, with every shot on
that end of the court available a three or the win.
You even had time for a dribble. But Alpi was
in the paint all by himself with Wendell Carter on

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his back. It wasn't a looping pass. It wasn't trying
to get it over the defense because there was no defense.
He just threw it directly into Alpi, who caught turned
shoots score overtime. It was uh, by the way, that
almost the inbound review the clock and gave the Magic
two tenths of a second.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
The inbound play. You were talking about whether Durant fell
down or was helped. Oh, he wasn't fouled. Well, he
wasn't not touched.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
You could have called a foul on Kevin Durant moments
earlier for the screen. He said, I mean those are
plays that there's contact, but I don't think those are fouls.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
All I know is that Scott Foster was in the
house and you could tell I'm gonna leave it.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
How do you do this?

Speaker 4 (19:44):
Man?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
I did the whole game, and not one thought crossed
my mind that the only thing that's noticeable is this
is our first game of the year with him, and
he still does stuff that no other referee does. He
talks so much to the players and the coaches that
we can't even tell what's going on from broadcasting standpoint.
They'll blow the whistle and one of the officials will
put their arm up and well, I think they called

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the time out.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
I think they called it technical. But he takes so
much time.

Speaker 6 (20:09):
He walks over to their bench and he talks to Emay,
and he talks to the assistant, and he's talking to
Steven Adams.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
You know why he talks.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
I mean, I think the players appreciate it if they
think they're getting anywhere getting an understanding of where he's
coming from.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
But from a whistles blown and blown calls.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
And you know, lack of flow or anything negative about
the officials. I didn't notice one thing in last night's game.
I don't know, calls or anything.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
He knows. The more he does all that stuff, the
more the cameras are on him.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
I'm not even kidding when I.

Speaker 6 (20:36):
Say the cameras weren't on him. This is all during
timeouts and stuff.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Well, if he's talking and it's a stoppage of play,
then everybody in the arena, particularly the people who are
broadcasting the game, particularly on the television side, are going
to want to know what the source of this stoppage is.
And when it's always him, the cameras are going to
keep finding him, and they did last night just watching
him on the broadcast, I know. I mean, he was
on camp way more than most officials are. And that's

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the reason.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
Well, they also the plays that necessitated this was the
first game all season where a Rockets player intentionally tripped
an opponent.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, you know why he tripped him because he was fouled, right,
But and that's not usually that's the track. Gas was
right there to.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Call it and didn't, and then he called a flagrant
on a trip. I'm sorry, but there is a there's
such a thing as making it right. And I'm sure
that because that was a review. It wasn't Scott Foster's call.
It's Secaucus, New Jersey. But if Scott Foster had been
doing his job, it's not just that he fouled him
clearly by hitting him upside the head. Never mind the

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fact that the other foul that they called on a
men Thompson or didn't call on a men Thompson where
he was clearly hit on the arm. Yeah, but he
got legal hit of the basketball before he foiled him.
So it's okay the rule, I know, but so is
the rule. When you get hit upside the head, it
should be a foul and probably should be reviewed for
a flagrant.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
But it definitely should be a reviewed for a flagrant.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
It if you hit reach Shepherd upside the head and
then you say something to him, And all of that
culminated in Reid getting a flagrant because he tripped him.
Because you know what, the referee wouldn't do his job,
So Reid took it into his own hands, very stocked
in of him, very stocked on taking.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
To his own feet. Well he took you know, Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
I'm surprised he did that, and I do think it
was intentional, and ultimately that's the call you're gonna.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Because he wasn't getting justice his own way, or he
wasn't getting his jug. He wasn't getting justice from the officials.
Help his teammates don't follow his lead. Well, if they
have to, I don't mind if they do. I hope
they don't. Look if Desmond Bain's allowed to just hit
guys upside the head and then talk to him while
they're on the ground after they were clearly fouled on
his way up the floor and nothing happens.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
Do what you gotta do. I don't care.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
I really don't like if you're going to be let
something that egregious go by, especially in a tight game
like this, Like Reed Shepherd's like, all right, well, I'm
not gonna get punked. That's what this came down to.
Desmond Baine was he was fouling all night. He's kind
of a jackass. By the way, this goes back to Memphis.
Don't forget that's who he is. He's Desmond Baine, who

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used to mix it up with the Rockets four times
a year. He's not some guy that you're gonna see
once a year in the on the East Coast and
once a year here. There's a little bit of a
bad blood between those two, the Rockets and Desmond Bane.
And he, like you said, he was starting to feel
himself late in the game, which is fine. He single
handedly kept him alive in some portions of that game.

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But you can't hit a guy upside the head and
talk at him and then when nothing happens, Reed Shepherd's
just supposed to say, Okay, I'm sorry here, let you
go up the floor. Like that's what he did. I
have no problem with him.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
Cost the Rockets a couple of points, and well they
won the game.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
So Desmond Band can take a stupid nonfoul call and
his tripped self and go back to Orlando.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
We got a lot to get to via Best of
X via The Good, the Bad, the Ugly coming up
in two hours.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Best of X is.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Next the Age On Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
Did you see we should be putting out between five
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Speaker 8 (24:03):
Four hundred people were arrested for things that they said
on social media.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
History repeats itself type anuels succeed. Never doubt that you're
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Speaker 5 (24:19):
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Speaker 7 (24:22):
Best of X posting every single day.

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You know you're the best of X.

Speaker 7 (24:29):
Breaking the entire Internet.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
All right. As WEX mentioned earlier, especially on a Monday,
coming off a jam packed weekend in the middle of
fall and football and everything else going on.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
No shortages of choices for best of X.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
Yeah, the sugar Sanders stuff is too important to waste here.
There's so much of it. We'll do that, like my god.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
But by the way, who is who is Josina Anderson?

Speaker 5 (25:09):
Whose pocket is she in?

Speaker 9 (25:10):
Like?

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Is she dating Dion? At this point? She dating she?
Or I'm wondering, Like it's so ridiculous. I get that.
There's like.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
We'll get to it then, It's just it was impressive
even for her. As is this. By the way, I
think we have this audio. I hope we have this audio.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Jeffrey Simmons does know he plays for a one to
nine football team, right, I'm seriously asking because I've never
seen I mean, I'm sure i've seen like a similar situation,
But have you ever seen an athlete try to say
something and seemingly backtrack all in the same sentence like

(25:52):
Jeffrey Simmons did yesterday after that loss to the Texans,
Because I mean, I understand he's upset. I understand that
the very beginning of his statement where he says he's
sick of coming into the locker room losing because he's
one to nine. I get all that, but, like, in
all honesty, do you really think you're better than the

(26:15):
Texans after they just swept you? Like that's that's a
legitimate question that needs to be asked of him after
the comments he made yesterday.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Cole sins, I can't see you. I'm gonna need you
to tell us if you have this out. He's in there. Well,
he's in the rundown.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
All right, let's try this Jeffrey Simmons following a last
second field goal winning kick by the Texans to defeat
the Titans, sweep them for the season and send the
Texans or send the Titans to a one to nine record.
This was defensive lineman Jeffrey Simmons for the Titans.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
I'll tell you, I'm tired of come in the locker
room losing when you know that team not better than us.
I don't even care what people say. They have good
they got a good some good players, but we should
have won that game. We got to stop being off.
So and I'm sure y'all to hear me saying it,
how to everybody else saying that we need to stop
being off sip.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
So what I think he's trying to say and why
he sounded like that. It sounds like there's a little
back Oh, they have a lot of good players. Is
I don't think he was saying that team, the Texans,
they're not better than us. I think what he's saying
is that team that just played sixty minutes of football
against US, that was on the other side of the field,
that's not a team the way that that game was
played should come out of here with a victory over US.

(27:30):
And then he went on to describe many of the
reasons why he said he thinks he thinks that maybe
they beat themselves. I mean, I think they probably did too.
I would agree with that. It was a day where
they had plenty of opportunities. The Texans were far from perfect.
They're five penalties, especially they're holding penalty. As soon as
they had the very very very good opportunity on the

(27:53):
opening drive to score a touchdown, then they had their
holding penalty and ultimately got no points. But they had
five penalties for fifty three yards ty at nine penalties,
typical of a team that stinks. The Titans were better
on third down. The Titans really did do a lot
of things that they would like to do to win
a game they scored first, they had a great opening

(28:14):
drive when they had to score late after or score
a touchdown late after not scoring a touchdown the entire
game they did against the Texans defense got the benefit
of a couple of penalties and then took advantage of
it with one one big play, one big throw down
the field. But it was extremely well executed. I know
we're better than them. We should have won that game.

(28:35):
That's usually where I tend to go. This is kind
of the Texans idea of well, we just need to
finish well. When you're losing, what are you finishing. You're
not about to finish with a win. You've got to
go do more than you've done. There's nothing to finish.
That's the same thing the Titans were, and the only
way they finished that game the way it went is
if the Texans basically go three and out after the
game tying touchdown and they get the ball back in

(28:56):
their offense, which is awful, puts themselves in field goal range.
I can understand that this is just extreme frustration for
a player who has he has been there when they
were good and competitives, and he's winning and he's still
playing great football, but he knows it's football is so different.

(29:16):
Go watch an NBA game last night Brooklyn and Washington
played each other.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
They're both one and eleven going in a last night's game.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
Oh goodness, guys know the losing team doesn't go back
in the locker room and act like Simmons did, because
it's not like that in basketball. They're not putting their bodies,
especially defensive linement, through torture every week just to get
on the field. He's not healthy. He barely practiced this week.
At this point in the season. That's fairly normal for
players like him, and he's doing everything he can, and
soar the other fifty two guys that are out there

(29:44):
with him or seventy guys over the course of the
week physically giving everything they have to do the inevitable.
We're gonna lose because that's what we do because we
don't have any talent. And that's the bottom line of
it all. Did you see what cam Ward has to
work with? Like I said this before they played the
first time, and I'll say it again now that they've
played the second time, and I said it last week,
they have no talent on offense. Their talent group on offense,

(30:08):
their running backs are acceptable but certainly not near the
top of the league. Their tight ends aren't in the
top twenty five, and their wideouts have gotta be the
worst in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Wide open touchdown.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
And you're trying to win with this with a rookie
quarterback who's playing for a second head coach already.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
He hasn't even played eleven games. Yet, Let's go to
the responses.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
They literally swept you, once with Stroud, then again with
quarterback two Mills. Both quarterbacks have beaten your team. That's
conclusive proof they are in fact the better team.

Speaker 6 (30:41):
So in his I know this wasn't in the comments
unless we go deep in there and we find it somewhere.
Over just three years, the Demico Ryans era Texans, the
Demiico Ryans era Texans have beaten the Titans with CJ.
Davis and Case while Simmons has been on the other team.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
They own you, Tomiko is your or father. Team is
not better than us, except they beat us every time.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
To almost realize every team better than them. That's the thing.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
And at some point do we do we bring up
the Mayo man like they're just just a better football team.
When Will Lovis is out there, Oh my gosh, he
beat the Texans, He's probably sitting back kind of laughing
at this season. He had a choice to make. Yeah,
I'll go ahead and have season ending surgery just before
the year starts and miss the year and take my
talents elsewhere if any team believes them, so maybe one

(31:29):
more anything else.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
That team beat the brakes off you with their starters
and beat you fairly with their backups. Reality needs, Reality
needs to find a place in your locker because you
aren't doing it service.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
Yes, Matt Wright kick the game winning field goal against
you after Davis Mills led the team down the field
against you, and literally against you your defense.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
By the way, real quick fun fact series is tied
twenty four to twenty four all time. Most points scored
by the Techs forty one in twenty eleven, most points
scored by the Titans forty one in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, that was the year with Romeo.
The Texans couldn't stop anybody, and they went down there
and should have won the game and needed to go
for two to make sure that they would win the game,
and they let the Titans of course they knew the
Titans would score every team scored against them late, and

(32:29):
they did.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
He never gets a fair shake. All right, we will
leave it at that.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
We'll get into some more NFL and Rockets conversation to
wind down the two o'clock hour coming up next.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 8 (32:48):
So.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
I keep trying to push my coworker here, not literally
well to like listen, nobody questions whether or not wex
is on social media. That's over and done with. That's
a lot of questions whether or not I'm getting my
drink on every weekend.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Yeah, you're boozing it up in your kitchen every week
thanksbecs love it. I try to throw alike that way
every time I see it if it comes across the timeline,
dirty Shirley. So but like I'm always telling him that
your life, that's the kind of stuff that people want
to see more of. Yeah, I know, because they want
to know what makes this guy tick? Is he really?

(33:26):
Twenty four to seven sports.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
Somebody did ask me after I posted what I posted
Saturday afternoon, were you really at Nutcracker Market? I'm like, yeah,
how do you think I got all that stuff?

Speaker 4 (33:36):
The picture he sent. I don't even know if you
sent it to me. Yeah, you sent it to me
and then you posted it. But the version you sent
to me, I think you're both smiling.

Speaker 9 (33:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
I was trying to figure out how I wanted to
do it.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
So I want to just shoot all this video, take
all these pictures of There are things to do at
Nutcracker Market that are for us.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
For no women, for the boys. What is it about
that event that makes women It's like they're in their
mating season or something.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
There's like a primal.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
Call when you're dragged to say the grocery store, if
you're not the one who does is shopping and you're
just hanging out. Was something usually at the grocery store
costco that is usually a nice additional bonus. They usually
have samples right central market places like that. This track
of the market is a festival of would you like
to try this unbelievably well cooked meat, Would you like

(34:22):
to try this unbelievable alcohol? Would you like to try
this crazy awesome well seasoned chili soup, jerky chocolate.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
Which by whatever?

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Just like the grocery store because you're like me or
I'm like you or whatever, with the grocery store. I
like that now. I think part of it is that
I worked in one when I was in high school,
like I was a sacker, and later I was a
checker graduated, but like checker, it was a you know,
it was a that job was enjoyable to me because
I am a people person when I want to be like,

(34:53):
I would see people I knew, But it was just
a good if you have good social skills, it's actually
you can You can do pretty well in that industry.
Actually believe it or not, but I like this nutcracker
market phenomenon. What you're talking about has to be there
for us because otherwise all that is is an extension

(35:14):
of the worst day of the year. That day is
when your wife or your girlfriend, or maybe you're younger
and you're living at home and your mom that was me,
would tell you, Yep, it's that day, the day you
love so much, the day that you want to kill
yourself because I'm gonna make you go up into the
attic and bring down exorbitant and just endless supply of

(35:37):
crap that is dusty and green and dusty and just ice.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
It's well packed and your bins are closed you're good.

Speaker 10 (35:47):
Ye.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
My dad is such a saint in so many different ways.
He has more patience for this than I ever like.
I to this day get in a bad mood about it,
and I feel bad because now I've got a seven
year old and he's really into it.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
By the way, I probably shouldn't tell that story on
the air, because I don't want to.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
You know, there's sports Memorable, there's whiskey taps, there's bottle
openers all designed for it, all sorts of sports stuff,
all sorts of manly stuff. There's an entire store there
that says the manly stuff.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
That's literally what they're called, right because there yeah that
and could smaller numbers than the other. But I don't
think it's always been that way it used to.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
There is plenty to drink if you've brought your wallet.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
Right, and it's not just boxed wine for the women.
Do you name it? They've got it. Did you get slashed? No,
I didn't, But it's there if you want it.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
You weren't driving, obviously, because you never drive. No I drove,
you did. Yeah, my car was in outside the garage.
So that's the car we.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
See you rotate. Is it whoever gets home, first car, garage,
three cars at the house. Yeah, that's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Yeah, I just I can't even with what you're talking about,
especially since I don't drink. I don't know that that
would be enough to offset.

Speaker 6 (37:04):
There's enough, Like I said, go check out my social
if you know, there are other things to enjoy there.
As you're maybe being dragged around to every single little
shop that they have, They're and occasionally buying things. But
if you if you want the world's most powerful hose extension,
you can get that there.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
Hose extension like water hose.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
Yeah, for your house, like you're watering something, or if
you're cleaning the car, or if you're cleaning a sighting
on your house, any number of things. Wait, you want
a lopper? They've got those two. What's some great toys
for the kids? Powerful? What do you mean powerful?

Speaker 10 (37:36):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (37:36):
The stream can peel paint almost. Is this like the
thing I see on TV where it's like the snake.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
This is what you put on the hose Okay, like
spray ah the okay, I got you the apparatus, yes,
if you will.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
So, yes.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
Part A very small part of my weekend was spent there.
Most of the rest of the weekend was spent watching
or attending football games, watching attending basketball games.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
You know, the usual Wexler type of stuff.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
Yeah, well, opening weekend of high school football playoffs all
sorts of good stuff, by the way, and ending weekend
for high school football playoffs for half the teams.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, they're seasons over beat at kids. They're all played
still in NRG stadium right when they get down the road? Yeah,
where do they play them?

Speaker 9 (38:21):
So?

Speaker 5 (38:21):
Do they play them at the home stadiums?

Speaker 6 (38:22):
A handful of teams get home games games at del
Mar for Lamar had the del Mar game, and some
of the other SBISD schools were over at Tully I believe.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Does do they play all their playoff games at the
Berry Center? Because I would not all of.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
Them because currently there's so many of them. You at
the Barry Center.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
When that thing was first built, I was like, this
is nicer than some college facilities.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
That's every year or two there's some super viral post
on the X platform. Look at what they're doing down
in Texas. This is high school football. They spent fifty
million dollars on this stadium. They spent seventy million dollars
because they have the money.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Was a Berry Center. There's a full scale basketball arena
next door. They have concerts there.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
Yeah, they have a lot of the uh uil. Further
on down the road playoff events, basketball, volleyball, obviously football. Yes,
do we have some unbelievable facilities in different parts of town.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Where's the baseball diamond there? Huh, you couldn't afford a
baseball diamond my old school district.

Speaker 6 (39:21):
Needing the si Fair product an outdoor baseball stadium. It's outdoors.
You need this handful of stands and dirt and grass.
You don't really need to go overboard building a baseball
I would not. And when I say sci Fair product,
I mean Syfair ISD. I did not go to scy Fair.
I went to Syde Creek. I had let it be known.
But yeah, a little peak behind the curtain. Every once
in a while, I do try to include myself in

(39:43):
the social media because obviously I was there, I was
taking part in whatever this not and traditional here's my
walking out with wex video. I went to a game
and here's my report. But actually, you know, being a
human being, once in.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
A while, we had a good walking out with wex
video together on a special guest Friday night. I enjoyed
it was you a great deal. That was fun game,
fun weekend for the Rockets. Texans got the job done,
and now the real work begins in that vein the
fantastic Davis Mills Nico Collins connection. Yesterday, Collins had finally,
I think, maybe the first time all season, a really

(40:17):
really good Nico Collins type game. We'll hear from Demico
Ryans on that. We come back next.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
The A Team on Sports Talk seven ninety two lifelong
Houston sports guys named Adham talking your team. Adam Clinton
and Adam Wexler are the A Team.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
It is the A Team.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
It's Sports Talk seven ninety It's our number two. I
gotta tell you, wex It's good Monday. Two victories by
the Rockets over the weekend and one last second kick
to beat the Titans and sweep them in Nashville yesterday.
By the way, my brother in law and my nephew
were at that game decked out in Texans gear. He

(41:10):
sends me a picture of them in the stands there
at whatever they're calling it now. It's not Nissan Stadium.
What is it now? I forget it? Doesn't matter. It's
gonna be a old stadium soon. They're building a new one,
you know, for all the amazing things that that franchise
has accomplished there.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
And he was like, this is a weird game.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
I go, yeah, it's just I told him. I said,
I'm so envious of you because you saw at the
beginning of the broadcast. Well it's who is it, Chris Myers,
Chris Myers, Mark Schlaerth the proposal ruiner Chris Myers.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
From many, many years ago. Yes, yeah, well that's what
I know him for. Yeah he uh oh sun splash
sixty two degrees Todia in Nashville. I was like, shut up,
it's like ninety degrees and a thousand percent humidity outside.
My grass is on fire.

Speaker 6 (41:58):
It was a seventeen point eight degrees celsius. Yes at
the stadium.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
Really sixty four degrees for those of us who like
that number.

Speaker 6 (42:06):
Why did they do that? Like, why is the metric system?
Like why in the NFL game? Maybe because they have
brought so much international attention to the NFL. There was
a Madrid game this weekend, so maybe they think it's
necessary to throw that in there.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
That was like when We had bts on last week
and he was like, I don't tall, I don't call
it soccer. I'd get thrown out of the pub. I'm like,
it's called a bar, first of all, not over there.
It's not a pub. You're not in Ireland. But he
was for one of the games, that's true, and he
probably will be back. But yeah, look it was what
it was yesterday. I I'm looking at the scoreboard. I

(42:39):
see that Buffalo put up forty four points and I'm like, well,
you're not going to do that here, but you're gonna
probably be able to put up a whole lot more
than say the Titans or the Jaguars did well.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
Texans did score thirty six points just two weeks ago. Now,
I don't expect them to do that even again, the
Bills defense is gettable, I guess you could say, and
certainly the Bucks did get them, but you just can't
expect to win a game when you have no idea
how to put Josh Allen under raps. We'll get some
more of that. It's still always more about the Texans.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
It should be.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
The Texans have played very good football teams. They've lost
to them all, but they've played them well, they've kept
themselves in games, but it shows you where they are.
That's all they're able to do. They're able to stay
in the game. They stay in the games against the
Rams and the Bucks and the Seahawks, and you know
they're there.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
They're competing.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
There's a chance some fluke play could go their way
at the end of the game, they might win, but
they're not doing the things necessary to outperform these other teams.
The best team they've played and beaten is a very
good team.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
People at some.

Speaker 6 (43:41):
Point are going to realize, no matter how many injuries
they have, San Francisco is good. San Francisco is very
very well coached, and they're doing a lot of things
very well, in spite of the fact that they've played
most of the year with Mac Jones, they've played a
ton of the year without Fred Warner and with other
assorted players missing time.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
And the Texans went out there and they beat them.

Speaker 6 (43:58):
They just flat out out played them that afternoon. That's
the one game where they did a lot of the
things you'd like to think that they should have been
able to do earlier in the year, And honestly, I
do think it's a lot of the things they've been
able to do throughout the year. I'm one of the
people that does think the game against the Broncos goes
dramatically differently if CJ. Strouds continues to quarterback that game,
yesterday's game with Davis and the week before with Davis.

(44:21):
When you look back at that week with Davis against
the Broncos, hopefully some saying people covering the NFL or
those on the X platform who obviously are not saying,
will realize what a difference it makes when you take
all the number one reps leading up to a game
and you are the game plan and then you get
to go out there and quarterback that team. Not you

(44:43):
spend all week watching them practice, you spend all week
maybe running some scout team, and then in the middle
of this game you get thrown out there and it's
all on you. That's the hardest game to play for
any quarterback. These are backup quarterbacks. Yesterday we saw a
guy make his first NFL appearance with the Cleveland Browns.
Two weeks ago, we saw a guy in his fifth

(45:04):
NFL season make his first real appearance of the season.
Was there that much difference in how they played? I mean,
that's kind of the point there. A lot of people
did take to the X platform to try to explain
to people. But one thing this backup quarterback does have,
and it is kind of remarkable and makes for a
very fun story. You know, the Davis Mills Nico Collins

(45:25):
connection is on display. It looks real, it looks like
something we're seeing, you know, every time the two of
them are out there, and I say, it's kind of
a fun story because I would have never thought this
at the time, and I really don't now either, but
it's still true. These are basically the first Nick Casario Texans.
They're part of the same draft class where they didn't
have a first round pick and didn't have a second

(45:46):
round pick because it was traded away by someone before Nick,
not because Nick decided to trade it away, even though
it's also a very believable story something he does like
to do. But they've been here in this locker room
now that John Weeks has gone pretty much to get
longer than anybody else, and Nicocollins' last three games he
had one catch one game prior to Davis's introduction to

(46:09):
the offense here this month of November had one game
before that, where he had more than four catches. First
six games of the year, Niko Collins had one game
with more than four receptions. In the three games that
Davis Mills has played in part the Denver game and
all of the Jacksonville and Tennessee games, he has at
least seven catches in all of them. He has at

(46:32):
least ten targets in all of them. He has at
least seventy five yards in all of them. And they
scored one touchdown in this game. It went into Nico's hands.
It matters what they're doing is it's good for fantasy
footballers out there for one thing. I know everybody's thinking
that that plays, but it's good for the Texans. How

(46:52):
about a couple weeks ago when Flacco made his debut
with the Bengals.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
What did he do that night? I think I've heard
of this guy, Jamar Chase. Why don't I just every
path every time? Why did it take know what the
Texans are doing now? Yeah, but why did that take
so long?

Speaker 4 (47:06):
It's not like he just got drafted or even is
playing in his second year.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
When you put the offense together at the beginning of
the year and you have CJ healthy and Nico and Dalton,
and you're you. You don't feel like we're in a
desperate situation. And I think that's how offensive coaches see it.
I don't want to have to throw on the ball
every time? Why why not?

Speaker 5 (47:26):
I will never understand that. I don't force the ball
to him. Why why not? He's bigger, stronger, and faster
than anybody who's guarding him.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
Mostly the longer you're able to do that in any
particular game, well, if you're still having success with it,
then the defense hasn't adjusted to it, and then the
moment they want to adjust to it perfect.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
Everybody else is wide.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Open, ride open, including Dalton Schultz, including Christian Kirk.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
By the way, I know you're a tweet Abjohn know though,
because he doesn't get to play.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
Let's get to the Nico Collins Davis Mills casweet on that.
It was commented on both that after the game yesterday
and then again this morning. Demiko o'rion's met with us
over there this morning and then the locker room was open.
Remember it's a short practice week. They will have a
practice today. We'll get an injury report, but it'll be
more on the estimated participation in practice three oh eight.

(48:17):
By the way, Demiko orians told us that CJ. Stroud
and Jalen Petri are still in concussion protocol. If you
guys find that important news, maybe we should have game
Probably should have mentioned that. That was the first thing
he said when he was at the podium this morning
he was asked about it.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
I wonder if all those people who thought I was
crazy for saying he might miss two to three games
are still thinking that.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
Yeah, I'm not going to comment on any of those
people who have consistently commented on any Stroud concussion related
post that's been made the last three weeks and wondering
why he's so soft and made of glass. Not going
to comment on any of those people, specifically Biden. Maybe
we should concuss them, and very noticeable that it's the
same source commenting each time. But to the point of this,

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Jalen Patrion CJ. Stroud very unlikely to be able from
a timeline standpoint to finish passing through the concussion protocol
when they're still in it on Monday, doesn't mean it's impossible.
He did not rule them out today. Honestly, I expect
him to rule them out. Tomorrow they will have it.
They are only true practice, but it will still be
a light practice. And Wednesday afternoon, Buffalo will be making

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the trip to Houston and the Texans will be making
their final touches on their game plan and then they'll
go out there and try to take care of a
very important game. Now to Miko's comments today on the
Mills Nico connection, you just.

Speaker 11 (49:42):
Trust your guys, all right, And that's what Davis. Davis
keeps me calm because he's so calm in a moment.
But you know who we're going to with the football matters,
And when a Nico's out there, he's getting targeted. For
the most time, when he gets targeted, he comes down
with the football.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
I don't think that was the same clip. There wasn't,
but just real quick I laughed at the very beginning
of that. You know why he keeps me calm, right,
he's talking about Davis. I know. That's what's funny about it. Well,
of course he does. He's Davis Mills. He's the least
excitable person on the planet probably, How could he not
do anything other than keep you calm.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
Sometimes it's good for a quarterback. It's always good to
be who you are as a quarterback. This is who
Davis Mills is. I don't think everybody's gotten a chance
to really get to know him over his five years
here because most people have wiped away the first two
years when he was playing for Coach Dave and coach Lovey.
But this is who he is. He's not acting when

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he's on the field. He's not acting when he's on
the bench. The moment of exhilaration he showed after running
in the game winning score very brief. He barely even
fist pumped. He did to jump into the arms of
his offensive lineman. But this is who he is. Baker
Mayfield's very very different. He acts totally different as a quarterback.
Aaron Rodgers totally different. Alamar Jackson is totally yeah. When

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his non throwing hand is hurt and he has to
come out for Mason Rudolph, I didn't even see the plays.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
I'm just being mean.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
Lamar Jackson is very different. Josh Allen's very different, Joe
Flacco's very different.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
Jalen hurt.

Speaker 6 (51:13):
But when you are who you are with your teammates specifically,
and you stay that way, that usually makes you into
a good performer. The competitive nature of these guys is
probably very very similar. Maybe it sounds odd saying that
Mills is on their level, but if you're an NFL quarterback,
you've done enough things in your career to get to
that point you're playing to win. You've played good enough football,

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you're an a lead enough player at that position that
you're among should be among the most competitive players on
your entire roster. It's not to take anything away from
the defensive ends and linebackers and corners and wide outs, etc.
But you know that animal at quarterback matters to the
makeup of your team, and it's pretty clear his I'm
not bothered by anything demeanor is on full display, good,

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bad or otherwise on any given NFL Sunday.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety Hey.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
Wex yes, sir.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Obviously, the Longhorns loss was disappointing, as evidenced by the
constant comments from my ut student stepdaughter throughout the night.
As we were at a wedding on Saturday, She'd like,
show me the score, and they would have they're actually
up three nothing yay, And then they weren't, and then
they kept adding on and she kept going. She had

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the same line every time we're losing again.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
We suck.

Speaker 6 (52:41):
I love it. I don't know if they do. But
they're just simply not not very far. That's three times
in three different places, the same team coach obviously a
little bit different team from Carson Beck in the middle
to Gunner Stockton, who's there now.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
By the way, Carson Beck least likable face in the
history of college ball quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
I mean, it's gotta be top five. Wow, that's way
too deep to answer off the top of my head.

Speaker 6 (53:05):
It's very punishable. Yeah he is, but he's not there anymore.
I know they did not They didn't look good enough.
I think arch Manning has clearly become a much better
quarterback than he was at the beginning of the season.
I still don't know if it was inexperience, health or
confidence or what it was. The way that he plays

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now is much more Okay, he could be a good quarterback.
I think they could win some games. This is not
as awful as it looked at the beginning of the year.
But the team doesn't make enough plays on offense. They
look a lot like the Textans sometimes and they're gosh,
Ryan Wing go, Holy Cow.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
Catch the ball. Just catch the ball.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
He's opened so many times, and they just make the
right play, the right read. It's all well executed, and
then he drops the ball, you know, takes a touchdown
possibly off the board to open up the game, and
they end up with just that field goal at the beginning,
and then you know everything that happened after they got
it to fourteen to ten. They didn't see the ball
back until Georgia had scored two more times because of
the on side kick that followed that first of those
two touchdowns. I don't think it's unfair to say that

(54:07):
Sart got out coached again because of specific coaching decisions
that were made probably during the week that then they
were able to execute on game day. But it's more
about they just got outplayed the players on the other
side that were not I don't again you were talking
about Chris Myers and some of the things he was
doing on the Texans broadcast. I felt like the A team,

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main big broadcast team, Kirk and Chris Chris Fowler that
did this game, they did not seem like they were
calling the same game that was being played and were
acting like the Georgia defensive front was just all over
Texas and in the backfield NonStop, and Art can only
do that. He had time to throw the whole game.

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Obviously they got to him a few times. Obviously there
were things that they'd like to have back, but man,
the offensive line, which has played very poorly throughout most
of the season, they didn't play that poorly and pass
pro but once again again to bring the Texans and
Longhorns together. Longhorns couldn't run the football and chose not
to for most of the game, probably out of necessity,

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and the Texas Texans yesterday they could not run the
football at all. The number of drives that would start
with a first down rush so they could set up
second and eleven or second and nine was getting rather tiresome.
And they were still doing it later in the game
and kind of got away with it. But it puts
a lot of pressure on your offense, your offensive line,
your play caller, obviously your quarterback Davis Mills or Arch

(55:35):
Manning in that situation. But they are who the way
that they've played this year versus the record that they
have to show for it. I think many people would
like to have the Florida loss back, but they got
out played. It wasn't a fluke. The other team dominated
them in the trenches. As our guest that week, Cedri Golden, said,
they got punked. They absolutely got punked in the trenches.

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And a record that includes three losses. Could I sit
here and say they've lost to two the two best
teams in the country, I'd be lying because I think
both Indiana and Texas A and M would have something
to say about that. But two of the best teams
in the country that are clearly better than you. Yeah,
they have lost to the Ohio State and Georgia among
their three.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
Now, conversely, the Aggies looked like they were dead in
the water until they weren't.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
Yeah, it's hard to.

Speaker 6 (56:24):
Do what Reed did in that game, But talented players
can have off days and some poor decisions and just
the bad plays made you go six for nineteen. You
obviously were not playing good football, you know, the turnovers
were huge, the fact that they were getting smashed, the
way they were on the scoreboard in their building, it
didn't leave a lot of hope. But he to me

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still is even after that performance, and maybe because of
that performance, he's one of the best players in college football.
Now there's so many quarterbacks this year on any given week, Oh,
this team won a game, why don't I just start
talking about this quarterback for Heisman. There's no obvious Heisman
Trophy winner this year because there just hasn't been a
quarterback playing at that level, and nobody wants to give

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it to any player at any other position, whether it's
a wide out from Bama or Ohio State or a
linebacker from Lubbock. There are other awesome players in college football,
but if you don't play quarterback, it makes it very,
very difficult to rise to the top of that list.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
I know last year we saw somebody do that. Well.

Speaker 6 (57:20):
In order to do that, Travis Hunter had to not
only not play quarterback, but had to play two positions
at the same time during a game, or different times
during the game, but in the same game, just to
get his Heisman Trophy. But I think Marcel Reid is
actually being undersold as a guy who could or should
be in New York for the Heisman Trophy. And it's
because of what he did at halftime. He just said,

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forget it, wipe it all away. This game is not
over yet. We're not walking out of here with our
tail between our legs and a loss. We certainly are
going to be embarrassed by. We're better than the guys
on the other side of the field. At halftime, he
gave his personal Jeffrey Simmons speech. We should not be
losing this game the way we are. We're giving it away,
we're hurting ourselves, we're killing ourselves. And that was one
one of the most spectacular performances you're gonna see all year.

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In thirty minutes, really, in twenty minutes, they came back
so fast. He was so good. They made so many plays,
and that was even after some coaching decisions that were ridiculous.
They played to take the ball out of his hands
late in the game and have that ridiculous play call
inside the five yard line where they turned it over
and gave South Carolina one last chance. They overcame some

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things and all that happened this weekend. The coaching carousel
in college football helped net Mike Elko a fat extension.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
And James Franklin's about to sign with VA Tech.

Speaker 6 (58:39):
Yeah, this kind of was lined up over the weekend.
They had begun discussions and it seemed like it made
sense for that to be a nice landing spot for him.
If he does a good job there, it can happen
quickly in college football. That seemed like a reasonable spot
for James Franklin Land.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
But let's go back to the Aggies game and what
everybody's really talking about, besides the comeback.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
They really are.

Speaker 6 (58:58):
It is amazing how a three second decision is what
everyone's talking about.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
A state trooper who made contact with South Carolina players
during Saturday's game has been relieved of his game day duties.

Speaker 6 (59:11):
So the way you read that story is the same
way people are reading off the prompter what was written
about Jamar Chase and Jalen Ramsey. Jamar Chase appeared to
have he is alleged to have. And you just said
made contact, you left out the word intentionally. The state
trooper intentionally shouldered a South Carolina player following a long touchdown.

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A player and then a couple of teammates had finished
the play by running up the tunnel. I think the
player who scored was not one hundred after that run,
and so his teammates had gone up into the tunnel
with him, and as they made their way back out
of the tunnel and onto the field, it's a small
tunnel maybe four shoulder length body side by side can
get through, maybe three. There were three players they checked.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
The tunnel in Kyle Field is two. Norow you ever
tried to go to a see Yes. I thought Teresa
was gonna have an anxiety the attack and we went
to George Strait. She's like, it's too hot in hear
it's too narrow. I'm like, calm down, we're gonna be
to our seat soon.

Speaker 6 (01:00:06):
So as the two players did clearly make an opening
for the trooper who was leaving the field and heading
up the tunnel, I guess it wasn't a big enough
opening for his liking, and he intentionally shouldered one of
the players totally unnecessarily, immediately turned around as they did
and was yelling at them and pointing their finger like
get back on the field. I don't know what was said,
but it definitely was unnecessary. You know, multiple campus and

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state related entities took to the X platform Thursday. Well
that was after they first took to the exploded non
campus occupier, Yes, known non collegiate. Yes, King James is
what he goes by.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
First of all, you mentioned that the trooper was relieved,
like he as as that happened, and as they put
out the information as everyone saw it, I think the
people in charge decided, well, let's just take him off
the field, have him no longer performed duties he didn't.
We don't know the extent of what any punishment will be.
I have not seen any, but my assumption it was
at some point during the afternoon. Somebody will have unearthed

(01:01:11):
when this person attended or stopped attending Texas A and m.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Uh, yeah, he was probably very very what year.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
He graduated from BCS High or Rudder or somewhere in
the area.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
Lebron said that A and M cop that was funny
state needs to be suspended. That was premeditated and corny
af face palm emoji if he went out of his
way to start some bleep do better man, Well, first
of all, to be better.

Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
He did go out of his way. I agree with
that part of it. It was totally unnecessary and very
much uncalled for. It turned out to because I think
the South Carolina player that actually took the brunt of
the hit did a really nice job of not getting
caught up emotionally in the moment he was.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
He turned away doing he took his teammate away. He's like,
come on, man, yeah, we're gonna go back to the field.
But I'm sorry, I don't need Lebron telling me anything
as corny one way or the other.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
Can this make a certain group of people, authorities, law
enforcement make him look bad as a whole, as a group, Well.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
That's one thing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Seriously, using the term corny when you will actually bring
an official over by the arm, practically by the hand,
throw these people out they did something.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
Mean to me, that's Lebron.

Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
Why don't you just get in their face and yell
back at him. That's what Draymond will do.

Speaker 9 (01:02:28):
I love that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
I want to meet that guy and buy him a
beer and a steak and just talk about life with him.
He seems like my kind of people.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
We will continue here on a Monday edition of the
eight team Sports Talk seven ninety even more from yesterday's
Texans win, and yeah, Draymond Green one of the many
reasons he remains a problem if you will on NBA
floors nationwide.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
I can't get.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
Enough in this SloMo dramatic music accompanying shots of Kevin
Durant's shots last night, the three pointer to tie it,
the elbow jumper, fade away after basically taking over and
waving off any sort of offensive help. He's just everything

(01:03:27):
that the the Rockets signed up for and more when
they brought him in here.

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
By the way, it wasn't intentional shade being thrown by
Alpi last night when he said it's nice to be
able to give the ball to somebody who can score,
but he kind of did.

Speaker 6 (01:03:41):
When did he say that postgame podium? I believe so, Yes,
he didn't say that with us. Matt and I had
him after the game for a couple of questions, and
he was pretty excited about the trust that Obviously everybody,
his teammates and the coaching staff, especially the coaching staff
because they've been with him longer, have in him too.
They drew the play up for him and he came
through on an He doesn't care about that kind of

(01:04:02):
stuff too. That's the best part. Yeah, It's it's why
they are where they are this year through twelve games
because you can decide and pregame how do we want
to defend this team, and you know one thing is
not going to work because both of them are there,
and this is an issue. You have two different players
that you really would love to gear everything you want
to do around defensively, but they're both over there. You know,

(01:04:23):
if you want to commit more to Kevin, if you
want to run a double team out, if you want
to blitz him, it's just very difficult to defend this
team when those two players are I mean, Alpi's basically
having his best season across the board every which way
you want it, and Kevin's Kevin.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
You know who would have had a huge problem with
a play call being drawn up for a European player,
Scott Pippin, he would have sat out.

Speaker 6 (01:04:45):
Well maybe that was because there was a disconnect between
he and his extremely smarter than everybody else in the
room head coach.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
He was smarter than everybody on the everybody else on
his text winner was on his staff and he was
passing out piece pipes and books.

Speaker 6 (01:04:59):
So at that point point in time, Tony Kuk coach
had been a bull for how long five minutes? And
how long had Scotty been a bull for?

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Since eighty seven? And that was ninety three four? I could,
I could, I can?

Speaker 6 (01:05:12):
I'm with Scotty and his level of Scott Wait what Scott,
but he handled it quite poorly.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Yeah, but that's the that's the thing. You're the man,
and he was the man that year. He finished by
the way, people forget he finished second or third to
dream for the MVP that year when Mike wasn't there
anymore like Scottie Pippen for all the things that he does,
and it says and boy, they're dumb. It's great. He's
one of the best. He's one of the top seventy five. Ever,

(01:05:38):
easily he should be on that list. Mike does not
win without him.

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
Mike does not win.

Speaker 6 (01:05:45):
With Can you least put a player there in his place,
not just completely eliminate him.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
Can you get.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
Tucker Trevor Reza is not dunking on Patrick Ewing and
then standing over from Nicholas Patoom.

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
No, that's even worse. Nick is softer than Sharman Sean Marion.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
You need to go back to that era, first of all,
because all these guys you're naming played in the no
hand check era, which is why I got into it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
This will totally surprise you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
I got into an argument with a guy on social
media who was trying to say that the twenty eleven
Mavericks ring was the toughest ever achieved because Dirk went
through this gauntlet of players and he was it was.
The video is basically talking about how it's not even
a debate. You know, people like Antoine Jamison noted, scholars

(01:06:34):
of NBA history telling us that it's no law, it's
not a debate. It was because well, I mean, first
of all, you went up against Brandon Roy and LaMarcus
Alders in the first round. I mean, come on, now, wn,
you recall something else then No, this is what they're
saying on the video. Yeah, go ahead, And then he
goes and then he went up against Kobe and Powell.
That's not even the best version of Kobe and big Man.

Speaker 6 (01:06:54):
Yeah, eventually you'll get to that. If that wasn't the
hardest championship to win, then it was the COVID Championship
of the one being the hardest.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
And you went up against Durant and Westbrook and Harden,
and then you went up against the Miami here or
whoever it was that they won for the I don't know,
nobody remembers that championship, just like the other Texas Rangers championship.
Nobody remembers those, and I'm like, hey, over here, I
got I got a can you call on me for
a second. They had fifty seven wins and I think

(01:07:21):
they were the third seed in the West, Rockets sixth seed,
five elimination games, seven or eight or nine road wins.

Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
Wait five elimination games, I believe. So how good could
they have been?

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Two and one?

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
Right exactly?

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
I was like, well then, and the guy was trying
to say, well, the roster, I mean you had Clyde Drexer.
I said, yeah, but Max quit in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (01:07:46):
That was your depth. That's not normal.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
You were starting Chucky Brown at power forward. He tried
to say that Jason Kidd was washed up. So I
did a wex thing. I went to the numbers. Dude
average over eight assists that year. That probably led the
league back then.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
That was pre glasses.

Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
Jason kidds I don't know sure he wears them now
as a very smart.

Speaker 5 (01:08:04):
Coach, very smart coach in Dallas.

Speaker 6 (01:08:06):
Nineteen ninety four MVP, But yeah, ninety five Rockets from
ven six seed.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
Hakeem had a tougher ray stocked in them alone. Barkley
and kJ Dennis Rodman pre Bowls with David Robinson the MVP,
and then Shack and Penny. I don't want to hear
about Dirk having the tops ring ever that has blood
on it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
Shut up. I want to go Nancy Pelosi on that
they have five elimination games, none of them in the finals.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
No, and two of them were in one of the
rounds three to one deficit against Phoenix.

Speaker 6 (01:08:40):
Three of them it was yeah, if they were down
three to one, that's three elimination games, which is accurate.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
Uh yeah, because it wasn't in San Antonio and it
wasn't in Orlando.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
So yeah, all right, I'm with you.

Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
You've convinced me finally after all these years.

Speaker 5 (01:08:56):
It was difficult, hard. I didn't know that I should
have been like yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
But you know, even funnier is that time he won
the MVP and O seven and they got bounced in
the first round as the one seed and he had
to accept his MVP award in a side room. But
you're right, Dirk's the greatest of all time. Stupid Dallas fans.

Speaker 6 (01:09:10):
That'd probably stay out there because I think Dirk is
part of a pretty good team they've put together now
television wise, I think that group is nothing like the
inside the NBA crew, but Blake Griffin and Dirk and Donnis,
I think that actually will be an entertaining studio show.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
You know what's the worst part about this whole thing
is that I like Dirk. Dirk's a good dude off
the floor. He was a good guy on the floor.
He didn't do anything dirty like.

Speaker 6 (01:09:37):
All MAVs like he is the MAVs, and he knows
what we know. How they messed up. Yeah, and he
is not very happy about it, and he's doing the
right thing. I'm curious though, before we hit the top
of the segment. End of the segment here, there are
twelve games in for Houston. They're nine to three. They've
won four in a row. They have a chance for
their second five game winning streak when they play the
Caves on Wednesday. They've won every game they've played but

(01:09:59):
won since they started owing to the loss of San Antonio.
It was the only game they lost since the second
game of their season, and they have the fourth best
record the NBA.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
What about the rest of the NBA?

Speaker 6 (01:10:10):
What stands out beyond We don't need to talk about
Oklahoma City we're gonna talk non stop rockets. Is there
another team, another player, another something.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
That what is it?

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
They're in Denver. They're a problem and they're gonna be
here Friday. Yok, was just NBA Cup game. Well, it's
massive in the death what is it? What is Craig
calling it the death Uh? What is it?

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
The death Pool? I think that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
By the way, Welcome to the Depths of the Hell Portland.
That was so good the other night and it was
such a deep cut reference.

Speaker 6 (01:10:42):
Well, when the red court is down, you can drop
that out. It'll be down again on Friday.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
Yeah, Steve curR didn't like that, but yeah, it's he
just got granted, granted, he just got awarded Western Conference
Player of the Week for averaging thirty nine.

Speaker 9 (01:10:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
Nichol Point has been really, really good. Their team is
on a roll again. Albi for the second time this year,
was among the nominees.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Fans Albek Yeah, but didn't win it because Baby Joker
isn't as good as the real Joker, not yet anyways.

Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
No, I tend to agree.

Speaker 6 (01:11:12):
Of all the things that we were wondering what they
might shake out, and they've made a couple of moves
that really haven't even panned out yet, the Johnson Reporter move,
and they're still killing it right.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
I feel like he routinely puts up a bit.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
He puts up the big numbers, but it doesn't always
mean it's a win against the Rockets, which is all
I care about.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
He can kill everybody else he wants, and I hope
he does.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
But yeah, they'll be in for that Cup game Friday,
and that's a big one Cleveland first though. So we
will continue to discuss all things Houston sports as we
wind down the three o'clock hour. Demico Ryans more from
him yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Next the eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Pieces of information to get into here before we give
you a little bit more from Demiico Ryans on the
Texans dub this past Sunday meeting the Titans sixteen thirteen
on a final play of the game field goal from
none other than matthew Wright, who kicked three field goals
for the Texans and might have kicked his last field
goal for the Texans. Demiko Ryans today after he gave

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us the information that both Jalen Petri and CJ. Stroud
were still in concussion protocol as of eleven fifteen this morning,
said they hoped to get Kayamie Fairbarn back for this
game coming up on Thursday. None of those three players
were put on IR, concussion IR or IR otherwise, and
so all would be eligible to play if they are

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deemed healthy enough to do so. So maybe they'll see
Kyamie Fairbarn back this week. But a couple of other
items one on the injury or front. On Sunday afternoon,
the San Antonio Spurs won yet another game. They won
their first game, though playing without Victor Webbin Yama. He
was out with a le calf tightness uh oh, and

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then Sean Sharani's report from a few moments ago says
he will be sidelined for a few weeks, but they
left calf strain. They have gotten off to a remarkable start.
They won their first five games. They had lost four
of their next seven, and even things out after last
night's victory, just to touch behind the Rockets in the standings.

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
They're eight and four.

Speaker 6 (01:13:23):
Though they do have the head to head meeting, they
won't see each other again until two games in mid
to late January, and then the fourth game of the season.
Series does not come until March. So I don't know
the exact nature of the timeline here, but that is
of great concern.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
Well, the Rockets have already passed them, so yeah, that's
for starters. But secondly, that's what's keeping Anthony Davis out
so long right now.

Speaker 5 (01:13:44):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:13:44):
There it's been greater and greater concern for players with
calf strains for what could potentially be the result if
it's not properly handled, rehabbed, gotten back to full health.
And so I think teams are well unless you're Nico
Harrison and you're trying to get back on the court,
or sometimes the player because Anthony Davis reportedly was trying
to talk his way back into playing games, but he

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has still played just the five games so far this season.
Maps got a victory over the weekend Way to Go.
They also beat Portland less like the Rockets did.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
Good for them. This is my question on that particular
injury or issue.

Speaker 5 (01:14:19):
I guess, how do you know?

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
You can't The only person that really knows how it
feels is the player himself. The and I know there's
resistance exercises, stretches, things that the doctors and the medical
staff can do to kind of test it out, but
it's obvious what's being done here. You looked at Jason

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Tatum and Tyrese Haliburton in the same postseason suffered this injury,
the dreaded Achilles. It's not even at like you know,
Fred acl that sucks, you're out for the year, But
it's very very much different as far as the recovery
and more importantly, the player you are when you come
back from it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
One hundred percent recovered.

Speaker 6 (01:15:04):
Yeah, and these some of these Achilles injuries may most
of them, they're not because they were trying to play
through a sore calf.

Speaker 5 (01:15:11):
They just they got insured.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
Tyrese Haliburton, it was in the finals. We were hearing
tightness in his calf and then you saw it game six.

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
They didn't go seven, did they? Yeah? So yes they did.
Oh they did go.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
So it was games the beginning of game seven. I
could remember if it was six or seven. This year,
and it happens, and he knows, everybody knows. One of
the worst visuals we've ever seen. Because I've completely done
a one to eighty on him. I like him a lot.
I didn't use too but you know, nobody wants to
see that be the way your season ends, or in
a greater sense, you didn't want to see the championship

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be determined, in large part because after that the Pacers
didn't really have a chance.

Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
So we will see who knows how much time away,
but a lot different looking San Antonio Spurs team mentioned
they got the win yesterday over Sacramento and now they'll
see what they look like with Daron Fox back and
without him, which, ironically enough, it's exactly what happened last year.
D Aaron Fox came aboard and then not long after
Wenby got hurt. So they have still barely seen the
court together since they acquired to Aaron Fox last season,

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and we don't know how long that will go. And
the other piece of news comes from the NFL. I'm
glad that they did not hesitate or have any issue
to think about this too hard. Jamar Chase was issued
a one game suspension for spitting on Jalen Ramsey. Video
captured it very clearly. There isn't any doubt that it happened.
It definitely looked intentional, and because this is the second

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spitting on another player during an NFL game incident of
the season, happened earlier this year with the Eagles and
the Cowboys, Carter was held out of just that game
that he did it in, and it was explained in
the release, Well, this happened before he'd even taken his
first snap. This happened at that juncture of the game,
right at the onset of the game. So with his ejection,

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that essentially was his one game suspension. He missed the
entire game. They're issuing a one game suspension for Jamar
Chase in this instance. It will be heard soon an
appeal should he follow one, and I would assume it
would not go well and he'll miss a game because
that's not something you're supposed to do.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
Here's my question. Why, And I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
If you don't do something, everybody always says, I would
be shouting it from the rooftops. Okay, but there's video,
there's cameras all over you.

Speaker 5 (01:17:27):
You had to know that everybody saw this. Why would
you just lie?

Speaker 6 (01:17:32):
Yeah, he talked after the game, and when he was
asked about it the first time, he goes, nothing ever
came out of my mouth about this guy, But it
almost sounded like he didn't answer the question. And then
he was re asked the question, and he said, very definitively,
I ain't never spit on anybody except for this guy.
You spit on him, right. It was very clear, and
you could see in their verbal interaction a change in
the attitude of Jalen Ramsey when not only did he

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spit on him and they were standing. You know, Ramsey's
just a little bit taller than Chase. It at least
from how they were standing in this video of the
fight of the altercation between the two, he did not
tilt his head down very far talking about Chase. He
spit and it caught the bottom of the face mask
of Ramsey. That's how close the spit was to his face.

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It doesn't really matter. Although I can imagine an even
worse reaction from a player if another player, if he
spits on your football uniform, which is what happened with
the Eagles and Cowboys, it should be punished equally, but
the reaction is probably not going to be equal. Look
at Dak's reaction, He's like, hey, throw a flag.

Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
He spit on me. Look at Ramsey's reaction. He threw
a punch and got.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Ejected, right, And I think, you know, it doesn't surprise
me that Jalen Ramsey.

Speaker 5 (01:18:41):
I mean he's hot head and always has been.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
Well, he's a talker. I don't know if he's a hothead.
He loves to trash talk. Well, would you have considered
Richard Sherman a hot head? I don't really, I'd have
to mean. Yeah, they just yell at They yelled NonStop.
They are the biggest trash talkers. It's part of who
they are. It's part of their game. But if you're
not getting and I'm about to get ejected, or I've
thrown punches or I'm fighting, then.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
Maybe I'm getting a mixed up for someone else.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
I feel like Jalen Ramsey's had at least some incidents
in question in the past. I mean, that's that's It's
a lot of it is the nature of the position.
I'm not saying you have to be that way to
be a successful cornerback, but a lot of cornerbacks are
that way who are successful.

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
They're physical.

Speaker 6 (01:19:20):
If you lose control of your emotions, things will happen.
And you know Jamar Chase and they specifically you know
stated in the release, just so you know what you're
not supposed to do. This applies to any act which
is contrary to the generally understood principles of sportsmanship.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Thanks spitting thanks, or you could also indicate that you've
gotten a first down. And in Roger Goodell's No Fun League,
that is a person? What was it taunting?

Speaker 5 (01:19:49):
Who is it? The guy? It was a bride? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Like, come on, dude, that's something every guy gets up
at the Nico Collins did it yesterday?

Speaker 5 (01:19:57):
Oh that's a flag.

Speaker 6 (01:19:58):
I don't not a bad angle on it. Did his
hand come across his face? Did he do a slime gesture?
Was there a throat slash?

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
I care if he did. That's against the rules.

Speaker 6 (01:20:05):
So Shaun used to, well, if he were if you
were capable of playing in the NFL currently, he would
be flagged for it. But he'd also have to do
something well in order to want to do something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
Hence the if he were capable of playing four o'clock hour,
which will include the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
and Tamiko Ryans Coming up next.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
The A Team on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Ninety two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam talking your
team there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Is Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A team.

Speaker 5 (01:20:47):
Two hours in the books. Two more still to come.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
On a Monday edition of The A Team, It's Sports
Talk seven ninety Wex and Ac with us. We take
you until six o'clock tonight. No Rockets basketball tonight or
tomorrow night. Obviously, no Texans football until Thursday. And as
Wex mentioned earlier, kind of under the raate? Is it
that it's kind of under the radar? Dimiko just kind

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of like, oh, by the way, Jalen Peatrie and not
under the radar at all. We just didn't mention it
when we should have. It was the very first thing
that under the radar on our show. Yes, yeah, Jalen
Peatrie and c J. Shroud still not out of concussion protocol.
It's not looking good.

Speaker 5 (01:21:27):
Well, I never thought it was.

Speaker 6 (01:21:28):
I think when you get to the point where they
were having not practiced at all this last two weeks,
with what practice entails this week, which is next to
nothing because they just don't have time to put their
bodies through practices to get ready for a Thursday night game.
It just never seemed like they were he was he
or Jalen Peatrie were at the stages that suggested they

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could make their way back by Thursday, which is obviously
a very short period of time. Two weeks missing get
time for a concussion not abnormal. And when you add
the third week game being just a Thursday game, just
a few days away, well it certainly can change how
things go for you. From a medical standpoint. This is
not a demiko decision. This is not a well if
we can just buy him a few more days because

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it's a Thursday game, then he's unavailable to the Rockets.
He's not cleared the concussion protocol phases. He's not cleared
these steps necessary to even make it a football decision. Now,
there was a question about if he were cleared, is
there any football decision behind he hasn't played.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
You wouldn't have seen him on the field in practice.

Speaker 6 (01:22:31):
Now, it's pretty rare that a healthy starter doesn't just
immediately go back out there because well we didn't see
him at practice, or he wasn't able to get on.
The guys don't practice all the time and go out
there and play, and quarterbacks too, So I really didn't
think there would be much of a question. I think
as soon as he is cleared, then he's going to play,
provided it comes with us enough time before any particular

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game kicks off, and I think that game will end
up being the game after this game, after they get
through the Thursday night game and some more days past,
and hopefully more of the symptoms are not a factor,
and then the needing to get on the practice field
to clear the last steps of the concussion protocol can
be accomplished, and then I think he'll be out there.
Don't know much about Jalen situation. Did see him at

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the facility today, so hopefully that is, if nothing else,
a good sign for maybe he's made progress, but if
you're not out of the concussion protocol. Some coaches in
the past have gotten a little bit more detailed about it. Well,
you know, he's done this, and he's done that, and
he feels good, and you know, we're looking Dimiko has
been pretty simplistic about the description of it, and that's
totally fine, but it's pretty clear your team's dramatically different

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when you change quarterbacks, no matter what level of play
you're going to and from. And then the Texans, you
know that they're a different team because they're using a
very different personnel group, at least in these last two weeks.
And I don't know how much of it is Petrie's
absence versus Petrie and Stuart's absence because two safeties are out,
two of their five startering members of the second area

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are out versus Well, they've played Jacksonville and they've played Tennessee,
you know, in Jacksonville, and Demiko actually said it in
his in house interview something that I posted during the game.
We just want to make Trevor Lawrence beat us and
then will win. And it's a good philosophy and it worked.
It's a little bit different against Tennessee. Look at what

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the Jags did yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
Not that they did not make Trevor Lawrence beat them,
they could not do what the importantly, justin Herbert sucked.

Speaker 6 (01:24:28):
Well, the reason they lost is because Jacksonville just handled
the ball off and said, well, we know Trevor Lawrence sucks.
So if we can just run the ball, and you
know we're going to run the ball and you can't
stop us, then we're just gonna run you right off
the field.

Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
Well, the Texans have a good defense. The Chargers didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
Yeah, why but again, why wouldn't you load up the
ball if you know that's what they're doing until they
stop doing it?

Speaker 5 (01:24:48):
Why wouldn't you just loading.

Speaker 6 (01:24:50):
Up the boxes an option, but you still have to
have the players that can actually make the plays, and
Chargers just didn't. I mean, I don't want to get
too deep into this, but it was kind of hard
to miss. It's de something I would notice. So Trevor
Lawrence six and four quarterback this year, that's what they're
putting together. And he has consistently been near the bottom
of the league and just about every possible numbers, group

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of numbers you could look at. Against the Texans, he
was thirteen of twenty three and he was just simply
not good. He had almost the identical numbers in their
game yesterday, almost the same exact numbers.

Speaker 5 (01:25:32):
But they ran the ball very very well. They dominated.

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
They dominated that game without needing their quarterback to barely
even show up.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
How did he ever get? Was it seventeen points against
the Texans? Seventeen such a future number, but one. It's
why they hit us with something when they speak to us,
and we feel like, man, don't say that it's so simple,
but it's a team game. Dimko said it a bunch yesterday,
said it a bunch again. Today. It's true.

Speaker 6 (01:25:59):
That's why they say it, you know, if two of
your three phases are dominant, and that's definitely the case
with Jacksonville. Give a little credit to Jacksonville's defense, even
though the Texans shredded them for an entire quarter to
the tune of three touchdowns led by Davis Mills. That's
not what happened yesterday. Justin Herbert, who lost the doll
for a certain period of time. They obviously have issues

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on the offensive line. They forced them to kick two
early field goals and then they just said, well, that's
it for the day, and Herbert had a bad day.
Their offense had a very very bad day. And one
of the seven game parlay get the Texans into the
playoff picture that I pushed yester Or last week, that
was one that did not play. Could Jacksonville lose at
home to the Chargers. Sure, I thought they could. They

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just they embarrassed the Chargers yesterday and they stayed a
game ahead of Houston.

Speaker 5 (01:26:46):
Did bring the Chargers closer to Houston.

Speaker 6 (01:26:48):
But I still think getting past them is like getting
past the Bills, and you have to beat them when
you play them. If this is a team you need
to pass to get into the playoff picture, and you
need help because you're more than one win behind them.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
I think the problem now though, is that, Okay, you
got the wins you needed to to still set this up.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
Buffalo's coming to town. Yes, it's a home game.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
I just don't have any confidence in Davis Mills beating Buffalo.

Speaker 5 (01:27:19):
Yeah, so this is definitely much more about that. You
can't beat the CJ.

Speaker 6 (01:27:23):
Stroud's not going to beat the Bills if the Texans
defense doesn't slow down Josh Allen. The Texans barely beat
Josh Allen last year when he had one of the
worst games.

Speaker 5 (01:27:33):
Of his career.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
He had the worst game of his career, and they
won by a field goal, and they're the ones that
made it that worst game, by the way.

Speaker 6 (01:27:39):
So even if their defense does do what obviously the
Bucks defense did not do, count them won two, three, four, five,
six Josh Allen touchdowns and yesterday's forty four point outburst
against the Bucks. Even if the Texans defense brings the
Bills down to sixteen, seventeen, twenty twenty one points, that's

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still a task for what likely will be the Mills
led offense coming off of a game where they could
they couldn't The Texas are the Titans front, especially the
interior with Sweat and Jeffrey Simmons. They're very good, and
they showed the Texans couldn't run the football at all
in yesterday's game. The miracle they got the eighteen yards
late and they were huge to set up a much

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easier Matthew Wright field goal attempt. Those three carries from
Woody Marks on the last drive in succession for eighteen yards.
Do you want to know what he did the rest
of the day or are you having a nice day
and you don't want me to ruin it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
I'm aware of his carries and his yards in that
there were a lot of carries and there weren't a
lot of yards.

Speaker 5 (01:28:38):
He had fifteen carries for twenty six yards the rest
of the game, what was it, eighteen forty four total?

Speaker 6 (01:28:45):
Yes, three of them for eighteen yards to help them
into much field.

Speaker 5 (01:28:49):
His stats, Yes, I use that so loosely.

Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
I know it doesn't seem like this either, but of
course I had the research team get on this when
I saw that for the season he's.

Speaker 5 (01:28:59):
There clean RB one.

Speaker 6 (01:29:01):
The last two weeks have absolutely proven that he's taking
you know, about three two and a half to three
times as many snaps as Nick Chubb, and I also
think it might have made Chub more of Chubb more
effective because he's on the field less. And I think
it's worked out. But Woody Marx is not finding much
success running through these non existent holes. Seventy five rushing
attempts or more. He's third from the bottom of the

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NFL at three point five yards of cary. Talking about
Woody Marks, he's he's been helpful to the team. He
has come up with some huge runs. He's been good
in pass pro most of the time, and he's also
been exceptional in the past game. These aren't Woody Marks
related numbers, Okay, these are Texans offensive lines.

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
If he has a better line in front of him,
is there not a market improvement? And like, you know,
if that's the case, then you don't You've got a
running back of the future, so to speak.

Speaker 6 (01:29:57):
I mean everything I've seen from him this year, even
though these numbers are yeah, I like what the future
holds because I think these are weapons. This is a
weapon you should use in your offense. Maybe he's not
your every down back, but he's someone you want on
the field because he makes plays.

Speaker 5 (01:30:11):
He's so good out of the backfield.

Speaker 6 (01:30:13):
He made a play in the game Sunday that is
it's innate. You make it because that's who you are,
not because you know you had time and you looked,
and this is my best. He caught a pass out
of the backfield, an intentional throw, a reserve valve type
of throw, but he already knew what he needed to
do before he'd even collected the pass. He caught the

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pass and as he was turning upfield, he jammed his
foot in the dirt so he could make a cut,
which avoided a TfL. He would have been tackled in
the behind the linest scrimmage, no question about it. Turned
it into a positive play because he's skilled in this area.
It's not well, he's a running back and he has hands,
so let's throw them the football.

Speaker 5 (01:30:51):
He's actually very very good at it.

Speaker 6 (01:30:53):
He's good at creating space, good at running in space,
and good at making your quarterback look good if the
passes off the Marcus. He has very good hands. So yeah,
I would be pretty excited about the future for Woody.
It would be nice if you could put it all
together and say, well, we gave him the ball twelve
times and there were sixty five yards and we threw
the ball to him on four times.

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
He caught three of them. We got fifty yards.

Speaker 6 (01:31:13):
Like there's a lot more to get if they can
get more out of their own line, which might look
different again on Thursday, no real word on where ed
Ingram is with his injury, but he missed the game
with the knee injury. You saw the shuffle, Titus Howard
went inside. Patterson was your other interior alignment along with
Jake Andrews and Trent Brown got a second consecutive start

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at right tackle. As soon as ed g Ingram is
healthy and ready to go, that should be Trent Brown's
last start at right tackle if you asked me.

Speaker 5 (01:31:43):
And no one is going to miss him even well.

Speaker 6 (01:31:46):
I'm not saying he's been awful, far from it, but
Titus Howard's been shockingly exceptional at both spots this year.
As I hear myself saying it, I don't mean it
that way. I mean he's had trouble on the inside.
He hasn't been any This is the best season he's
played as a textan in my opinion. He was great
inside yesterday. He's been great at right tackle. Put him
back at right tackle and have Patterson and Ingram as

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your guards. Andrews be your worst lineman at center, and
hopefully Ursery will play a little bit better than.

Speaker 5 (01:32:11):
You come back in after that injury. Who Titus, He
missed only one play and he's fine. Wow, it looked
way worse than that. I forgot to even pay attention
to that. All right, we will take a quick time out.
We will hear from Demiko Ryans. Also, you're gonna hear
from Kevin Durant. He loves you guys. You you people,
you Houston fans out there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
The ag on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
Would you like to hear from Demiko first or Kevin
Durant first?

Speaker 5 (01:32:50):
It's your choice. Wow, I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell
Kevin Durant what you just said?

Speaker 6 (01:32:55):
Hey, seven The other day on the radio show, we
tease Demiko's audio like for an hour and said anything
about your audio.

Speaker 5 (01:33:01):
So I chose Demiko. Oh it's cool man, no problem,
It's actually true.

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
I've been telling you guys we were gonna hear from
Demiko Ryans on this team win for the last three segments,
so I figured we would go ahead and deliver on
that tease right here.

Speaker 11 (01:33:18):
I'm proud of our guys. We're finding a way to win.
Last week we had to come back and win a game,
you know, we were down a lot, and this week again
we put ourselves in a hole. But man, we had
a great two minute drive. So I'm just proud of
the way we're finishing. This is we weren't finishing games
really good to start the season. How we're finishing games

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now and finishing with the win, that's all that matters,
And proud of our guys for that.

Speaker 6 (01:33:43):
That finishing term comes up again. The three drives to
open up the second half, well, they put points on
the board in all of them, though the last of
those three was probably pretty disappointing, the Will Anderson sack fumble.
Texans have it at the Titans thirty four yard line
with that ten points on the board, looking to make
it more than a small lead. They didn't go anywhere,

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They couldn't get a first down and they had to
kick the field goal game thirteen points and obviously increased
their lead. But then the true drives that followed that,
as they're trying to finish this game and not make
it dramatic and have two score lead or a three
score lead. They go three and out on back to
back possessions. Then they let the Titans have one good

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drive after the opening drive of the game, the only
one good drive. They gained more yards on the final
drive of the game than they had gained on their
last eight drives. Combined penalties, big throw down the field
to a conquo, and they scored the touchdown. The Texans
goal to go and red zone defense again fails. If
you're gonna tell me that Texans don't have the best

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defense in the NFL, then that's the argument you were
going to use, and it might even work. They have
continued to be bad, just like last year, inside their
own twenty and in goal to go situate and it
left them tied with ninety five seconds left.

Speaker 5 (01:35:03):
No problem.

Speaker 6 (01:35:05):
Davis Mills leads the team on a time killing nine
play forty eight yard drive and you made it very
very very easy. Thankfully on Matthew Wright, who, while it
won't be noted because of the penalty on Jeffrey Simmons,
he missed his first kick. He hit the upright on
a thirty one yard field goal attempt to open up

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the game, but they got a reprieve because of the penalty.

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
So this is all I'm thinking about right now. Davis
Mills against the Bills. To Bill's defense, is what suitable? Fine?

Speaker 5 (01:35:46):
I mean they're not.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
Is At Oliver still out for them? Yes, I mean
it's completely different. He legit is the term game changer.
He applies to him.

Speaker 6 (01:35:54):
He's someone to every That's the first thing you would
talk right, It's the first player you need to concern
yourself with in my opinion on their defense.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
Correct, So that's that's good for you if you're Davis
Mills and this offensive line especially. But I'm not gonna
lie as a that's a that's kind of a downer
going into this game to think about you're not gonna
have CJ.

Speaker 5 (01:36:14):
Stroud available potentially, and it's looking more like that.

Speaker 6 (01:36:17):
I mean, they are probably a little bit below average defensively,
or considered an average defense. I've been scored on a ton.
They're not at the bottom of the league, but they're
just not at the top of the league either. Teams
have been able to run against them, and that's what
is very very different for the Texans because if they
can run the football, they'll be able to do one

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of the things they want to do, no matter who
the quarterback is, keep the other offense off the field.
No Texans time of possession. For who they are as
a football team, it matters if they can keep their
own defense off the field so they're extremely fresh when
they have this kind of challenge. I don't think there's
any question that is one recipe for success. It's no
different than any other Texans team. I mean that clearly

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is at a disadvantage because the other team had a
super potent quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:37:05):
We'll keep them off the field.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:37:07):
The Texans, although it seems like they've never done anything
against Kansas City, some of the times where they've been
the most successful, where when you just shortened the game,
you gave Pat Mahomes the ball eight times instead of
twelve or thirteen times. You kept them from finding any
rhythm because your own offense was driving the ball for
much longer part of the game. Their offense was sitting
on the sidelines for you know, twenty thirty minutes at

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a time. That is one thing I definitely think the
Texans would like to do. Thirty first in the league
is where the Bills offense are defense ranks. From a
rushing standpoint, they give up the thirty first most yards.
They give up the thirty first most yards per carry. Also,
so Texans better bring their run game, which they did
not to Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
So I should basically just take my chances with Woody
Marks at running back on my fantasy team this week.

Speaker 6 (01:37:57):
I mean, if that's what you're left with, I started
him this week, but I did not have much choice.
I've finally run into the part of the season where
if you're on my bench, there's a reason you're hurt,
and I don't have any other way to get rid
of you because it's short term, not long term, and
it's it's just the way it is. But this wasn't
I didn't think it would be such a bad matchup,
necessarily for Woody.

Speaker 5 (01:38:17):
I think they underperformed running the football.

Speaker 6 (01:38:19):
I do respect Tennessee's ability to stop the run, but
it shouldn't have been like this. You know, the Texans
just literally couldn't move the football. They were behind the
chains after a first down run fairly way too often.

Speaker 5 (01:38:31):
There.

Speaker 6 (01:38:31):
Like I said, their offensive line is probably gonna look
different if, in fact, ed Ingram is able to return
to play, and I'm hopeful for it because I think
at that point, I think that is actually their best five.
If Ingram and Patterson of the guards, Howard and Erstrie
are your tackles, I think that's the best five Texans

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linemen that are on their roster. I don't think Jake
Andrews is a better center than Jarrett Patterson, but I
don't think it makes any difference which player you take
off the field. Because I take Andrews off the field
and put Patterson back at center, well at least one
of the guard spots open for j Scrugs or Laken Tomlinson,
and I don't like that either. So I actually think
if Ingram comes back and he and Patterson are the

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two guards, and Ursery and Howard are the two tackles,
I think it's the best looking fivesome they will have
put on the field the entire season.

Speaker 5 (01:39:20):
Now they just have to prove me right.

Speaker 4 (01:39:23):
Yeah, Davis Mills against Buffalo, but Josh Allen against this
Texans defense is obviously you know that's in the Texans favor.
That's something that you know, you just talked about last
segment about last season he played his I think it
was his worst game definitely a regular season game by
far of his career, and it's because this defense got

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after him.

Speaker 5 (01:39:47):
I would say.

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
Probably the defensive front this year somehow playing better than
last year.

Speaker 5 (01:39:58):
I think they have at times.

Speaker 6 (01:40:00):
I think both daneil Hunter and will Anderson Junior are
starting to make more consistent wow plays that gets people
to notice them. Oh, he had a sack, he had
a sack, fumble, he ended whatever that play might be.
I don't think they're making more plays period though, because
they're making plays NonStop, even when it's they don't make
the tackle, they haven't had the sack. They're forcing the

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defense to account for them as much this year as
they have in any other year. It's early about the
other guys, and I think with tojii's emergence inside, Tim
Settle TOJII, the return of Sheldon Rankins, with Autrey now
back and healthy, they have tons of flexibility with how
they put their group together upfront. I think maybe they're
right where they hope to be. I think that their
defensive line is now playing that well. Again, they haven't

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been as disruptive in the middle, and they haven't been
as good at stopping the quite as good at stopping
the run. But if you go across the board, the Texans,
which is why they should be considered the number one
defense even with their red zone and gold to go
situation issues. You can't throw the ball against the Texans
and you can't run the ball against the Texans. But
other than that, I mean they and they're also they're

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turning teams over. They're still among the league leaders in takeaways,
just like they hope to be. They're fifth in the
league with sixteen. They added the one this week on
the sack fumble. There are only four teams with more
than they have. Buffalo's not bad. They've got thirteen, and
with Davis Mills at quarterback, he's pretty much playing mistake
free now. The very beginning of his starting stint, first

(01:41:27):
drive last week he got picked, and then he's thrown
I believe eighty passes since then without an interception. He
obviously hasn't lost a fumble. Technically, he's fumbled twice, but
they weren't caused. He's dropped two gun snaps and didn't
do that this week, but did that twice the week before.
Texas have only turned the ball over nine times this

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season in ten weeks, it's a top ten figure, which
is why overall in the Giveaway Takeaway Battle they're sitting
in the top five.

Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
You know what my fear is about this week.

Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
All those things come into play, they go according to plan,
and then the great X factor is he's just gonna
take off and run and it's gonna kill them.

Speaker 6 (01:42:06):
Yeah, it didn't happen against Ward, even though I think
he's more than capable of doing that until the last
drive of the game and he got away. And I
think everybody was watching that play going run all you want,
Why even tackle him, just let him slide because it's
all coming back. We saw where the flag got thrown.
It's definitely gonna be offensive holding on their line, legal

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hands to the face defense.

Speaker 5 (01:42:29):
They'll add that to the end of the run. And
I thought that was a pretty week.

Speaker 6 (01:42:33):
I didn't look like Daniel Hunter was making contact with
the chin or helmet, ye, so that would be his face. Well,
if you didn't make contact to his face, then I
don't know that there's a need for a flag. He
had to call on Stingley Junior on that march. Yeah, Well, nonetheless,
it happened to you once with him. It happened to
you multiple times with Trevor Lawrence. It happened to you

(01:42:56):
multiple times with Baker Mayfield. This is the elite of
a elit. You got away with playing Baltimore without Lamar Jackson.
I don't know that anybody extends plays and burns you
quite like Josh Allen does. Mahomes is extending a lot
of plays this year. But if you saw the play
that he extended the most yesterday that ended with a
Mahomes interception, a drive killing obviously interception, Josh Allen, He's

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a challenge for this defense at all defenses in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
The age on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
Now, the good, good, the bad that's not good, and
the ugly.

Speaker 5 (01:43:35):
Don't make me good.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
With the A team, we're.

Speaker 8 (01:43:39):
The good.

Speaker 6 (01:43:42):
Signature segment time as we return from the weekend, good, bad,
and the ugly. Each and every weekday afternoon at four thirty,
we each you with our signature segment.

Speaker 5 (01:43:53):
Ac you'll take up the rear. You'll be ugly.

Speaker 6 (01:43:56):
Cole, you are bad and I have the good. It's
pretty simple. When we talked about it all afternoon, didn't
really matter how you did it. I think Tomko said
after the game. Every win is a pretty win. He
said it with a big smile on his face before
he handed out game balls.

Speaker 5 (01:44:10):
Because he knows that was not a very pretty win,
but a win is a win.

Speaker 6 (01:44:14):
Before he handed out the game balls, he handed out
a game ball to the Nico Collins in a nice day.
Remember Nico Collins and Davis Mills did not connect on
the second play of the game. The first attempt, first
target to Nico, and then he threw them the ball
nine more times and he caught every single one of
them and including the touchdown, including the third and sixteen
catch at the sideline, both a beyond the first defender

(01:44:37):
and her front of the second defender and with the
toe tap from Nico Collins, he was special.

Speaker 5 (01:44:44):
The other guy who got a game ball, this guy.

Speaker 10 (01:44:48):
Sections Matthew Wright for the win, but kicks what down broadways?
Who's the part of Nashville and what a performance.

Speaker 5 (01:45:02):
Let me ask you a quick question, ac.

Speaker 6 (01:45:06):
Just pretend you don't know anything about how the NFL
broadcast games their national contract. Just pretend it's like, maybe
it could be. It could be a preseason game where
teams hire their own broadcasters. There's a Texans broadcast team,
there's a Panthers broadcast team, or in this case Texans
and Titans, they would both have their own TV crew
calling this play for their viewers. Can you tell the

(01:45:29):
difference between a national team and a local team?

Speaker 10 (01:45:32):
Matthew right for the wind the kick.

Speaker 6 (01:45:37):
Right down Broadways, care less, care less.

Speaker 5 (01:45:43):
Well, he's the sixth team, right down Broadway, right through
the hard team. I mean, it was an easy kick,
so it was kind of assumed he would assumed he
would make it. I'll just that afternoon he was ready
to be done with that as the rest of us.
That's my opinion that could be true.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
I mean, and I'm not even this isn't even like
anti Texans or anything like that. It was just such
a boring game.

Speaker 6 (01:46:08):
So we have someone in our midst He's our lead
in each and every day. I worked with him last
night on Rockets Radio. His name's right there in the
name of the show. Oh okay, he's an adult, right,
So his name is with Ross, so he should be
called as he is as an adult. It's not the
Matthew Thomas Show with Ross, is it. Yeah, it's not
the voice of the Houston Rockets. Matthew Thomas right, right,

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So why does Matthew Wright carry that full name with
him as a full grown adult NFL player.

Speaker 5 (01:46:36):
You think Matthew's a little too much. I think it
should be matt.

Speaker 6 (01:46:39):
But what if he for first, that's what Demiko said
when he got him his game ball, matt He called
him matt. So maybe I'm just being too literal and
that's how he's listed. But he actually does go by
me Mattie. Well that's different than he would be walking
off the field before the end of the game in Athens,
which he did, like you can't miss him because he

(01:47:01):
wears the same clothes basically at every game at Killer Jacket.
But I'm still amazed when I watch some of these
games that Matthew McConaughey attends, and he should.

Speaker 5 (01:47:13):
He's on the sidelines.

Speaker 6 (01:47:15):
Is fine, You've got a sideline pass, you're the Minister
of Culture, you're a celebrity, you are Texas. That's all great,
be on the sidelines for the entire game. But when
they're showing a shot of the head coach talking to
the rest of his coaches or to a player who's
come off the sidelines, how are you three feet away
from him?

Speaker 5 (01:47:31):
He knows where the cameras. He's right there.

Speaker 4 (01:47:33):
He's in the middle of the team bench, Scott fostering sidelines.

Speaker 5 (01:47:39):
And hilarious.

Speaker 6 (01:47:39):
But yes, he was, like everybody else, a little bit
dismayed that they went to Athens and for the third
time in two seasons, they came up short against Georgia.
That's not the Badron, that's not the good. The Texans
doing what needed to be done. I haven't even mentioned
itun till two and a half hours into the show.
They played Week two at Ozhen to one with an
opportunity to get to five, and they've been doing that

(01:48:01):
all season long. If we win today, we're back at
five hundred. If we win today, we're back at five hundred.
They finally did it. Ten games into the season. They
are mid That is it. That is your good? Absolutely,
yeah good. It could be worse. I guess they're running
hot streak. They've won two in a row, they won
five of their last eight.

Speaker 5 (01:48:22):
I can't get excited. Sorry, Davis Mills. Ball does that
to me?

Speaker 6 (01:48:26):
All right, col bad um Man, There's a lot of
things I can go with in the world of college football.
If you don't do college football, are you would you
just pass? I'd pass, of course I would, really yeah,
I would. All right, Well it's it's open for you.
The judges did not eliminate that from your talk topics.

Speaker 9 (01:48:42):
Well, I could go with what's going on currently in
Baton Rouge, Louisiana with Lane Kiffin and his family, but
I'd rather stay local. So let's go out to athen Shea,
where the Texas Longhorns dropped a game that knocked them
out of college football playoff. I understand there are gonna
be people that come up with scenarios on why the Horns,
with a signature win over Oklahoma and a signature win

(01:49:05):
over Texas A and M to close out the year,
could maybe be on in at nine to three. Ladies
and gentlemen, I hate to be the very bad news.
How you look in a game also determines if you
belong in that conversation. And the entire fourth quarter was
a factor of mediocrity. Texas's inability to run the football
once again against a team that last year held them

(01:49:27):
to one point one yards per snap in the rushing attack,
bad turnovers, horrendous droughts by Ryan Wingo, but also by
emmittt Moseley in three straight scoring drives to close things
on out a twenty one to nothing differential in the
fourth quarter, and just for good measure, Kirby Smart decided
to go ahead and run an on sidekick right after
a touchdown to guarantee that his team gets a win.

(01:49:50):
You can't show up looking that horrendous in a twenty
six point different I mean a twenty five point differential
on Saturday on the road. I expect to get in
the college football playoff. Sorry, Texas, wish you all the
best against Texas A and M, but you're not going
to the postseason conversation at all this year.

Speaker 6 (01:50:06):
Yeah, I don't just don't agree at all. I think
they play. I agree with your assessment of the game.
I don't agree with how the playoffs standings might work out.
Although I don't think the Texas Longhorns are gonna get there.
But there's two things, two major unlikely things have to happen.
They're gonna have to be the team that up ends
the Aggi's the only team to do so this regular season,
because they're not gonna lose the stand for this week.

(01:50:27):
So the Agis are gonna be eleven and zero and
the Longhorns need to get to eight and three with
a win this weekend over Arkansas. They need to do
what they need to do, and that's upsetting Texas A
and M. Whatever the line might be when they get there.
If they have a win over Texas A and M
and Oklahoma with those three losses obviously that they already have,
it's gonna take a ton of help. They almost got

(01:50:49):
Bill O'Brien to help them with the Georgia Tech game,
but sc who had a huge comeback win, Miami Utah
and a host of other teams. They need so much
help to be even in the conversation for the final
at large spot. That's what's really gonna keep. I don't
think the committee would say, well, I know they beat Oklahoma,

(01:51:11):
a top team, and I know they beat Texas A
and M, the top team, but they didn't look good
for fifteen minutes against Georgia, so we can't. We can't
fourteen to ten. Don't even give you the score they
looked off. Don't give you the score of the game.
When they keep the score of the game to determinements.

Speaker 5 (01:51:26):
And losses, it just never ends, does it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:29):
Cole's ugly, He's well, I don't have signs.

Speaker 6 (01:51:33):
That's why I wanted to take time here to give
you enough room for the ugly to breathe.

Speaker 5 (01:51:37):
Otherwise the ugly would die. We don't want that. I'll
let it breathe. Next segment. It won't take me long.

Speaker 4 (01:51:41):
I'm just gonna read aloud and it won't be uh,
it'll be pretty obvious what happened yesterday. Some people are
shills for people, and that happened yesterday involving a Cleveland game.

Speaker 5 (01:51:52):
We'll explain next.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (01:52:02):
Put a wrap on the signature segments. Good was the
Texans victory. The bad was the Texas Longhorns. Very super thrilling,
narrow defeat at the buzzer at Georgia and the ugly
what do you have?

Speaker 5 (01:52:18):
That's a professional buying me time? By the way, who
I'm not done eating?

Speaker 9 (01:52:22):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:52:23):
Just peel curtain back, all right?

Speaker 6 (01:52:24):
So we would have eaten dinner yesterday like I did
between four and five thirty over at Toyota Center.

Speaker 5 (01:52:30):
Yeah, Gompa, that's when you did it.

Speaker 6 (01:52:31):
Well, that's when the meal was served before the six
o'clock tip off.

Speaker 5 (01:52:34):
Was it a lamb platter at that time of day.

Speaker 6 (01:52:37):
I mean, if your options are I'll have the chicken
breasts and can I get some rice?

Speaker 5 (01:52:43):
Yeah, I'll take the vegetables. Do you have corn and zucchini?

Speaker 6 (01:52:45):
Perfect, I'll take that, and then I'd slide my tray
down to the desserts. I would pass on the jello
because there wasn't any, and I would take the pumpkin
inspired bread pudding.

Speaker 5 (01:52:56):
So what's your favorite flavor of jell o? Green?

Speaker 9 (01:52:59):
Uh, it's colors because they're all the same.

Speaker 5 (01:53:02):
I mean, well that tastes different.

Speaker 6 (01:53:04):
I mean if you make the jello right there out
of the old box, I mean, they do have flavors.

Speaker 4 (01:53:09):
If this were Matt Thomas right now, he would talk
about jello, but he would be talking about pudding or
pudding pops and he'd be doing a very bad impression
of a So what's ugly?

Speaker 5 (01:53:20):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:53:20):
Josina Anderson's got to be reeled in. Somebody has to
shake her. She is you talk about shill? I mean, look, no,
I'll bias his side. By the way, I had to
link to a quote tweet of hers from Clay Travis
to get it in the rundown.

Speaker 6 (01:53:39):
Do you know why should her? Sanders played his first
NFL snaps. Justina Anderson had a lot to say about it,
and a ton of other people did too.

Speaker 5 (01:53:48):
But I could not copy her original tweet. Do you
know why.

Speaker 9 (01:53:53):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:53:54):
Josina, who is a frequenter of the NRG Stadium press box,
senior in there.

Speaker 6 (01:54:03):
She's been to the press box at least once this year.
She's covered the team a couple of different times. She's
there during camp as well.

Speaker 4 (01:54:09):
If you read her bio Emmy Slash NABJ awarded finalist
or journalist, I should say senior NFL insider. I don't
know when she became that from a junior NFL insider,
but she did.

Speaker 5 (01:54:22):
Apparently, senior NFL insider for.

Speaker 4 (01:54:25):
MM just says insider. Okay, period founder London Pharaoh Productions.
She's the senior insider for the Exhibit News Network. Say
that again. You gave me the name of the company
and you said she founded it, right, Well, she's it,
says she founded it.

Speaker 6 (01:54:42):
So she is the senior NFL insider for the company
that she founded.

Speaker 5 (01:54:47):
Apparently.

Speaker 6 (01:54:47):
Okay, I'm the main contributor and founder of my YouTube page.

Speaker 5 (01:54:52):
She knew that was coming.

Speaker 4 (01:54:53):
The Exhibit news network host, businesswoman, and she's an alum
of real places like CBSSP in showtime, in Fox every One.

Speaker 5 (01:55:01):
She's been long tenured NFL reporter.

Speaker 4 (01:55:05):
All right, So she includes a video taken off the
TV which is always my favorite. It is, as she
puts it, here is the against all odds third down
and ten completion by Shador Sanders under two minutes to go.
Hashtag browns now. If you watch this play, it's all

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Jerry Judy, all of it.

Speaker 6 (01:55:28):
Okay, he's thrown short of the sticks, but it was
a nice throw and he made some spectacular yes evasion
moves to get to the first down.

Speaker 5 (01:55:36):
So it was a nice throw.

Speaker 4 (01:55:37):
Some guy named Kyle responds.

Speaker 5 (01:55:39):
To it is that his handle?

Speaker 4 (01:55:40):
Well, it's gotten one hundred and eight nine thousand views,
so everybody has seen this, and it just says that
was all Judy. She goes so eager to take away credit.
Why is that question mark? Question mark? Question mark? Question
mark question mark? Because the credit on that play goes
to Jerry Judy for not only catching the ball that

(01:56:01):
was thrown behind him, but then also, as you put
you know, going through the obstacle course of human beings
trying to kill him in order to get the first down.
It was against all odds because of where he caught it,
not because shaduor Sanders perfectly placed it over his shoulder,

(01:56:21):
away from the defender, down the sideline for an eightyr
grab like she's making it sound like against all odds.
The only thing against all odds it's good here is
the Phil Collins song. Not this fake, not against any
There were no odds.

Speaker 6 (01:56:35):
There are a bunch of people that grabbed many of
her posts. Anthony also noted, I need to know how
much money the Sanders family pays Josina Anderson seriously on retainer.
Never seen anyone invalidate their entire career the way Josina
did tonight. Because the amount of for shahdours four of sixteen.
A lot of people this this is something we've been

(01:56:55):
talking about, this since his time at Colorado, since the combine,
since what took place on for him, the three days
of the NFL Draft, the fact that he's there with
a rookie in Cleveland, how things went in camp, and
then finally on the football field. We have a totally
new amount of items to talk about, and it's exactly
the same amount of people just cannot understand the other

(01:57:20):
side of it. You know, if you're on this side,
then you are ripping apart everybody on that side. If
you're on this side, then you're ripping apart everybody on
the other side. Kevin Stefanski wants him to fail. I
can't believe this is what he looks like. No wonder
he's not been on the field. All I see is
four for sixteen. This guy's pathetic, just over the top
disgust or over the top praise, which is the side

(01:57:41):
that she's on for. I mean, look at where we
are in the NFL and what's happened on and off
the field this year, and we're heading into week twelve.
If I told you that the fourth string quarterback, the
second rated rookie on his own roster at the position,
is the most polarizing figure in the NFL this year.

Speaker 5 (01:58:00):
I'd be telling you the truth. But that cannot believe it.
At least you explained why. It's not because of anything
he's doing or not doing. It's because of the sides.

Speaker 4 (01:58:09):
And I just don't understand like she She's one of
the many people that tried to make it into something
that he was falling all the way to the fifth round. Okay,
so like thirty two teams all conspired to get together
and say, nah, you're not going to be a first
round or second round or third rounder or a fourth rounder.

Speaker 5 (01:58:27):
You're going in the fifth pal.

Speaker 6 (01:58:29):
I do think there's at least some belief this seems
reasonable to believe that he had. There are different circumstances
out of his control other than this Dion. I mean,
I do think there were probably some dumb teams or
teams that were not confident enough in their own abilities
as personnel people or coaches or whatever, that were worried, afraid, weak,

(01:58:51):
and thought, well, I don't want Dion Sanders and should
or Sanders around here because I won't. It's something I
can't handle. It's not Dion's fault, it's not Shuder's fault.
It's their fault. If there were a few teams like that, yeah,
I'd absolutely believe it. But talent is usually what players
get drafted on more than anything else. If you're a

(01:59:13):
middle round pick caliber player and you have off the
field issues, whether it's legitimate like legal issues, or there's
just they don't like you, whatever it is, maybe that
bumps you back a little bit more. If you can play,
especially at this position, you're going to get picked. He
didn't outplay Dylan Gabriel enough to start before him. He
didn't have a particularly good showing yesterday. And I think

(01:59:34):
there are a number of reasons why. Although they you know,
a playmate here or there, and things would be very,
very different.

Speaker 5 (01:59:40):
I'm not going to great a guy.

Speaker 6 (01:59:41):
After all this. We have another hour of the show
and Football at five. We're gonna dive further into this.
The amount of backup quarterbacks that jumped in here to
help people understand the situation. We brought it up earlier.
This is where Davis Mills was in the Broncos game.
He didn't practice to beat the Broncos. They didn't game
plan their offense around Davis Mills's skills. They didn't do
anything for Davis Mills because he's the backup. You don't

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practice like that. You give the first team reps, all
of them, to the starters, to the ones. So when
Kevin Stefanski, Kevin Stefanski acknowledged after the game that these
are the first reps that shoud Or Sanders had had
with the ones since they drafted him. Yeah, people who
know football already know that because he was a fourth
or fifth string when he got there and had never

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been above the second string until the most recent weeks.
Where are these reps supposed to come from? They don't
exist for backups, especially quarterbacks during the season.

Speaker 5 (02:00:35):
One more response to Josina before we go to break.

Speaker 4 (02:00:38):
You mean the two yard pass from Sanders followed by
eight against all odds yards run by Judy after the catch.

Speaker 6 (02:00:45):
That's not even not even descriptive of what the actual
play was, but fun to talk about.

Speaker 4 (02:00:51):
More.

Speaker 6 (02:00:51):
Get this more Cleveland Brown's backup quarterback talk next on
the A Team eg

Speaker 2 (02:01:00):
On Sports Talk seven nineteen MM