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Wex and AC get you over the hump with a little chatter on the MLB rumor mill and the status of Jake Meyers. Plus, the Texans are expected to start Davis Mills for a third time. Does the neck still have magic locked in place? And NFL on Amazon Prime's Andrew Whitworth joins the crew in Hour 3 to preview the Texans' battle with the Bills on Thursday Night Football!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Teams.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
A welcome back in to another award winning edition of
The A Team Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
I don't know of any awards that we have won,
but we should have.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
For well, it does take I think sometimes our bosses
have to submit that kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
So you're right, it's on them now they show are
you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (01:01):
The kind of stuff that we weave into nearly four
hours every day, not today, though it should be submitted
for awards. I don't know what kind of awards, but
it certainly should be submitted. The Rockets are gonna submit
for their tenth win of the season tonight. That will
cut into today's show because they are in the Eastern
time zone, and so what happens there is that everything

(01:23):
we normally do on a night where the Rockets would
play at home, we're just gonna do it an hour earlier.
Rockets launch pad with that guy over there, Adam Wesler.
That's going to start at five o'clock, five point thirty,
the network coverage with myself will get underway, and then
Matt Thomas will be on the call at six o'clock.
As the Rockets go, try to at least slow down

(01:44):
Donovan Mitchell. He's doing what he always does, putting up
big numbers in regular season wins. But that just doesn't
translated to a lot of postseason success, both here in
Cleveland and certainly in Utah as we mentioned yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
But he'll try to buck that trend. It's kind of funny.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
He's kind of Houston has always kind of been his kryptonite,
feels like no matter where he's been, and in a
weird way, wouldn't you say that the Houston Texans are
somewhat Josh Allen's kryptonite?

Speaker 5 (02:13):
I might? I might. If I wanted to go with numbers,
I probably would.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Well, because different generations, different versions of this Texans team
have always kept him from being successful in one way
or another.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
You'll see it on the graphic later this afternoon. He
has played seventeen NFL teams at least three times. The
Texans are one of those teams, including postseason, and he
has his lowest career passer rating against Houston. I mean,
and that's he has played against Demiko's defense obviously recently
played against other iterations of the Texans in different situations,
both postseason and regular season prior to Demiko's defensive arrival

(02:51):
and hadn't fared particularly well. The Texans have also fared
exceptionally well historically, although it doesn't carry much weight unless
it was against this type of team or with Demiko's
type of team. But they've beaten the Bills five consecutive
times in Houston, and that includes the postseason also, so
there are some things way down the line that would

(03:12):
make it look good for the Texans. They're also playing
against the reigning AFC Offensive Player of the Week. Usually
happens when you contribute six touchdowns to your team. Josh
Allen was the award winner this week. He made things
happen like he always does. He's had a much better
season individually than it appears for a team that is
not in first place. It's not really even close to

(03:33):
first place, but they are seven and three. They've started
to kind of maybe turn things back to where they
were at the beginning of the season when they had
a super duper charm and soft schedule. After the Baltimore game,
which they miraculously won, they won their first four games
of the season. They've been a five hundred football team
since they are three and three. They haven't played nearly
as well away from the last year in their home stadium.

(03:57):
This year, they're just an average team away from home basically,
so there are few things that might point in the
direction of the Texans. One that obviously does not is
the fact that Davis Mills is playing again. He starts
this week for Houston. We will likely see a third
different offensive line starting in front of him, although I
think this will be the best of the three. We'll

(04:17):
see if that's exactly what the Texans do our early
tomorrow night over at RG Stadium, when the first team
starts to get some work on the field. I suspect
ed Ingram will be a part of it, and I
suspect Trent Brown will not be a part of it,
but I certainly don't know that for a fact. They
only practiced on the field in front of us one
time this week. That was yesterday estimated practice on Monday.

(04:37):
Nothing really going on today. They play tomorrow Buffalo's on
their way to Houston, and this game is the first
game of Week twelve and one of several steps the
Texans have to take if they expect their season will
last longer than seventeen games, which it has done each
of Demiko's, Will's and CJ's NFL years. A lot of

(04:57):
work to do to make that happen, a lot of
work to do on Thursday night, which is specifically where
we will focus as we continue talking about them, we'll
get some more news definitively, most likely on some of
the injury situations for the teams. Again, on a short week,
it's a little bit different schedule for everybody. There are
some concerns from the Buffalo side, but I don't think
of as great a concern as there are with Houston,

(05:18):
quite clearly when the quarterback is not playing, and then
you take a look at everything else going on the
rest of the weekend, which we'll do mostly on Friday,
but they're going like a broken record every day. After
the Texans fell to zero to three, they could pretty
much do all they want. I would even say at
five and five, if they win out, they will make
the playoffs without needing any help. If they lose even once,

(05:39):
it's possible they could miss the playoffs if they don't
get help. If they lose twice, it's a given they
have to have help to get in. And it also
would leave them as only a ten and seventeen, which
is where they were the last two years. But ten
and seven this year is very unlikely to win you
the division. Even if you swept the Colts, you would
still need more help. Have eight wins heading into the

(06:01):
weekend you have five. That's a huge mountain to climb.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
You know what's funny is you feel like the Texans
normally coast into the postseason even if it's not an
overwhelmingly good year.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Because their division sucks.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Coast listen nine and seven and making the postseason that
was coasting.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
I mean they won their season finale to clinch a
playoff berth two years ago. They were going to miss
the playoffs without a win in week eighteen.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
All right, that's one year, Okay until two for the
last let's just put it at a decade that has
more often than not been the case when the Texans
have won the division, the rest of the division has
been trash a lot of times, and it certainly was
the case last year. Yeah, double digit wins, but that's
just it's just not double digit wins in the NFL

(06:54):
means that you're above average.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
Means you're gonna miss the playoffs. Sometimes Seattle missed the
playoffs last year at ten and seven.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
But okay, now follow me with this. Normally it's the division.
This year, it feels like you're not gonna you're obviously
not gonna be coasting into the playoffs because of how
you've played, but it's you are, in other words, taking
advantage of poor play around your conference by teams that
normally are not playing poorly in a lot of instances.

(07:21):
So that's what's kind of changed here in twenty twenty
five because some of these teams that are ahead of
you that frankly aren't having the type of season. I mean,
like the Chiefs are the prime example of this. I
don't think anybody and like the best case scenario, you're
the biggest Chiefs hater on the planet would think that
they would have been sitting at where are they at
five and five right now?

Speaker 5 (07:40):
Yeah, the best thing about them is they're not ahead
of you. Yeah, right, and that's when's that?

Speaker 4 (07:45):
When's last time you've been able to say that in
the last decade, never so infrequently. It's just weird how
those are. Those two scenarios have kind of been like
ships passing in the night. Normally it's the you can
rely uh or you've been able to rely on the
rest of your division to just not be on your level.
And this year is the cults have just obliterated any

(08:06):
and all predicting expectations, all that kind of stuff. I
keep I still every time I see that they've won
another game. I think back to the conversation we had
had with all of the journalists what have you leading
up to the season within the division? And I can't
remember who it was that we talked to from Indianapolis,
but he was just like we were, I don't really

(08:27):
expect a lot. I mean, they'll probably be second in
the division or these fighting it out with Jacksonville.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
They went far beyond Daniel Jones. They played without a
quarterback basically for the last eight years. Andrew Luck hasn't
been there, and they were pretty much an average team
but getting worse. Where are all the other improvements? If
the improvement was Daniel Jones. Why would anybody believe in that?
Did they get better in the secondary? Did they add
a player?

Speaker 7 (08:50):
Here?

Speaker 6 (08:51):
Is their linebacking group better? Are they even more stout
on their defensive front? They lost a pair of starting
offensive linemen. What did they do with their wide out
group to make it better? There weren't any good answers
to any of these questions. They didn't make a lot
of changes. It didn't appear that they did anything to
their roster other than sign another comparable quarterback to all

(09:11):
the ones they've played.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
I mean Daniel Jones, Gardner Minshew.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
There's really no difference Daniel Jones and old Matt Ryan
and old Carson Wentz and old Philip Rivers. There's really
no difference until it played out. And Shane Steiken deserves
a lot of credit for doing what he's done before.
He's already had to do it three times every year
he's been there. Who do I have at quarterback? Well,
then I have to change how we do things because
I have to tailor it to this person's skills and

(09:35):
see if it will work.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
And it's worked very well.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
I think he should get a lot of consideration for
Coach of the Year because I think he's actually coaching
this team to that level, coaching his quarterback to that level,
not just that they want a bunch of games. So
we got to consider this guy. I actually think as
an offensive coach. He has done a remarkably strong job
with what he has because Daniel Jones has actually played well.
We do know some of the other reasons why, which

(09:59):
I've ye to mention. It's got the best running back
in the NFL. They have the best ground game in
the AFC. It goes a long long way to take
the pressure off of you to perform, and then it
puts all of the pressure on the defense to stop
somebody else, not you. Nobody's game planning to stop Daniel Jones,
which is a huge asset for your quarterback. If that
is the case, it's one of the few teams in

(10:20):
the AFC that has that they're game planning to stop
the ground game to force him to beat you, even
though he's played well this year. Look what happens when
teams stop Jacksonville's ground game. Curtains for Jacksonville because their quarterback,
who's ahead of the Texans and close to the close
er to the Colts, he can't beat you. Jones has
also shown the ability to make plays.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
This year.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
He's having the at least the second best season of
his career, if not the first. And it happened before
day Ball in year one when they were together, and
now it's happening with Stikeen in year one as they're
together in Indianapolis.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
I was about to say Stiken's a big part of this.
You mentioned having the best running back in the NFL.
He's been up there for the last several years. But
I'll tell you this, what's crazy to think about is
how fast it can really go for you as a
quarterback in the NFL. Anthony Richardson just a year ago
at this time, even with all of the injury concerns,

(11:14):
he wasn't on the outs like he is right now.
I know, like he's hurt again and that's a big
part of it, but he's not getting his job back
ever again in Indianapolis.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
Right it has far less to do with him, though
this time they brought it. They didn't bring in a
quarterback to compete with him. In year one, he got
hurt and so another quarterback, Minshew, did play, and it
really bring a quarterback in to compete with him again
last year and they didn't play well. They did bring
a quarterback in to compete within this year. Daniel Jones
was brought in so they wouldn't be forced to start
Anthony Richardson by default.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
And he easily beat him out.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeh won the job. It wasn't like, yes, he easily
won the job. It was very clear to them.

Speaker 6 (11:49):
I'm sure long before they played preseason game number one
that he was going to win the job, and they
slow played it a little bit.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
But that's what happened.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
Yeah, on the outs in that he's both not played well,
especially as a passer, and he plays quarterback where you
pass the ball. You can do other things too, but
he is an absolutely dreadful passer. You cannot succeed if
that is part of your resume. And you play quarterback
no matter how athletic you are, and the other guy
has played well, they have all the reasons you need to.

(12:20):
I mean, you easily get out of this. Next year
is last year. You don't pick up the option on
his fifth year, which they already haven't done, and next
year's year four of his rookie contract.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Piece of cake. Remember what I wanted him really bad
for the Texans. I mean, if he was willing to
play another position, you can go get him.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
Now probably what position would that be? Anything but quarterback.
I mean, he's still probably one of the best athletes
in the locker room.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
Can he catch all? Some people that play wide receiver
can catch the football, but they still play there. What
about tight end? He's big, he is very big.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
Not a concern for the Colts right now, not a
concern for anybody right now and probably a ways off.
But they are back on the field this week. Last
week was there off week. It's a very important game
for everybody in the AFC. Again, what the Colts have
in front of them, because what the Colts could be
doing in the process of playing out their schedule of
trying to compete for the top spot. They're the team

(13:11):
that the Chiefs have this coming game this weekend. The
Chiefs could be five and six very very easily. And
the less they think their season, I mean, I know
they're gonna be desperate when they play the Texans, regardless
which is the following week. I would be just fine
with the Colts piling up another win. Texans aren't going
to catch the Colts. I don't care about the Colts.
I care about the Chiefs. Chiefs lose, that's good to

(13:33):
play us out. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
You know who doesn't bother Davis Mills, the Buffalo Bills.
You know why this is just another game. You don't
believe me, Well, maybe you'll hear him say that and
you'll believe him when we come back.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
The A t on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
It is the A team.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
It's Sports Talk seven ninety Wednesday edition of the program.
It's Texans, Bill's Eve. I still can't get these Thursday
night schedules. I get it, you want to spread it
out to where you basically have an NFL game every
night of the week. Eventually, I know that's what the
end game is, but I don't know. Bill's Texans, though

(14:26):
at least has on paper a non Thursday night football
feel to the matchup. It's just that with Davis Mills,
I don't know it would have been sexier with CJ.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Stroud, Let's just put it that way.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
But as it is, Davis Mills about to start his
third straight game and play in his fourth consecutive week
big time minutes at the quarterback position for the Texans.
Oh and by the way, it's really really important that
they win games like this as they continue to fight
to a postseason birth, like we've been talking about over
the first segment or so, so you might be wondering

(15:01):
what Davis Mills is thinking about this game. It's a
big game, right, It's a huge game. It's the best game.
Some people are saying it's the biggest game of the season.
But what does Davis Mill say? This is what the
Texans starting quarterback had to say.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
I mean, it's just another game. Obviously, every game is
extremely important, important, and it's gonna be fun seeing NRG
rocking on Thursday when the time comes. But you prepare
the same each week. I know this week being a
short week, it's a little different schedule wise, but we're
still getting all the all the prep all the game planning,
and we're gonna be ready to go on Thursday night.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
You really thought the Vanilla Gorilla was gonna have some
other response? Why you didn't like that? You didn't like
that sound bite? I mean, twenty seconds of electricity.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
Anybody you could ask inside the Texans locker room. This
is you know, guys are gotten a five hundred. It's
time to make a run. It's a primetime game, everybody's watching.
Bills are a good team. I mean if you're not.
If offense isn't cooking Bill, you know, Josh Allen on
the other very well could be even against your defense.
I mean, how do you approach this? Does it feel
like any other game? Sunday, Thursday, whatever, it's just another game?

(16:08):
Of course, he would answer that.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Do you think I'm just gonna let it slide that
you referred to him as the Vanilla Gorilla?

Speaker 6 (16:13):
Yeah, money, Mills, Mills Mafia coming at you Thursday night.
I've heard all that Vanilla Gorilla is sensational. That's way
better than my submission. You want to hear what my
nickname was for him?

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (16:25):
Girth, great, great nickname, definitely definitely gonna stick call.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Do you like now he ain't in there? What I
thought it was? Effective?

Speaker 8 (16:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:37):
No, I mean look, I would not have expected any
quarterback in his position to say anything different.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
Real like this guy, of all guys, we've already again
people relearning who Davis Mills is. This is exact same
player he was when he was playing for an awful
football team and playing very bad football for them, and
now he's playing for a very good football team and
extremely important games. Remember how important these games are, and
then look back at all the other games he's played in.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Nothing. He's never played in games like this before. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
Sure, the game they played at the end of his
last year's quarterback was very important for a different reason,
and because there was that other end of the standings.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
He wasn't playing in games.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
That would keep this team's postseason hopes viable. It wasn't
playing in games that meant something to the you know,
the win and lost ledger. He is playing in those
games now and he's exactly the same. And that's that's
good because I say this about every personality that you
have on a football team, basketball team, baseball.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
Same thing.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
Managers to coaches to be yourself, don't be something you're not.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
He is being himself.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
This is you heard him talk about when his wife
tries to fight with him, and he's like, I mean,
what can I do about it? It is what it is.
We'll figure it out. It doesn't bother him. What does nothing?
He's literally said, what bothers you? Nothing? Does he look?
Did he look bothered? When he threw an interception on
the opening possession of the game. Of his first start.
No did he look when they were down twenty nine
to ten, No, did he look like crazy excited. I

(18:04):
thought he was gonna jump into the stands for a
Texan style Lambeau leap after he ran into the end
zone to take the lead win the game essentially. No,
I mean he did leave his feet and get some,
you know, big hugs from his old line. Then he
went back over to the bench, and when the Texans
turned the Jaguars over and scored a touchdown to end
the game, I'm pretty sure we saw a very moderate

(18:27):
level fist pump and a smile from him as he
walked onto the field to find Trevor Lawrence and shake
his hand.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Serious observation here, and God forbid this would ever happen.
This is purely a hypothetical scenario.

Speaker 8 (18:40):
M hm.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
He is in a fiery car crash. Oh my god, you.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Pull him out of a burning vehicle. He survived, We
lost the car. Oh, it's okay.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
I mean, it's the same thing. It's all right.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
He would just walk on if he's the only one involved. Maybe,
I mean, maybe they're maybe there's other cars involved. And
he's so calm, cool and collected while he you know,
pats out the fire on his leg and gets out
of his vehicle by using the knife to cut the
seat belt off and he can wiggle.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
His way out. When did he become mcguiver? Then he
helps you, sorry macgroober.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
Then he helps the other people out of their car,
and the people are trying to paint him as a hero,
which he is, and he's like, I mean, I just
did what anybody else would do.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Did I tell you?

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Earlier this summer I watched mcgroober for the first time,
all the way through.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
For the first time.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
For some reason, Glenn Powell hosted SNL this past weekend
and they snuck in three mcgroober mini skits. They were awesome.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Was he there? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (19:30):
They had Will Forte come in and they as they
went to break, they would run these little he's not
doing and uh, it.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Was all about the Epstein files. It was hilarious. Wow,
who's the one guy, That's what I want to know.
Who's they voted on it yesterday?

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Oh, the one guy who voted on the other side.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yeah, I don't want to release one hundred and twenty
seven people, do I don't what?

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Well, that almost almost sounds like a Hall of Fame voter. Yeah,
for major. Well that's exactly where I was going.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Really against this? Or are you just want to to
be an animal Derek Jeter? I want to be a guy.
I want to be a guy who gets he gets uh,
he gets that kind of press, if you will.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
But we don't even know who it is, not that
I've looked. If it's available, probably is. I have definitely
not love. Yeah, do you want to know what his
name is?

Speaker 5 (20:16):
It won't mean to do to me. I think you do.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
I don't think Clay. His name is Clay his first name,
and he's what his last name is, Higgins, Islay.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
He's a senator, he's a he's a member of he's
a member of Congress, and he represents one of our
fifty states or districts or districts, which is more than fifty.
There's a lot more. Okay, whatever, it's just weird. I mean,
it happens, planted, it happens all he think he was
just he was going to have other people on his side.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
Kind of feels that way.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
You're talking about like nearly four hundred and thirty people
are on one side of this thing, and you're the
only guy in the other and it's that thing.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
So the four hundred and whatever other vote, we don't
know anything about them other than what we already knew.
Now we know who Clay Higgins is. Yes, mission accomplished,
all stupid mission accomplished. Davis mill is talking about it
being just another game to Clay Higgins right here on
the eighteen.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Why would it be any other way? Why would it
be any other way? Now?

Speaker 4 (21:16):
I want to uh, I want to invite you guys
to do something next segment. And this is very think
of this as a life lesson. And this is for
the men out there. You've got a girlfriend, you're both
consenting adults. You have she or she has a very
eclectic and interesting side hobby. You want to be supportive

(21:37):
of her. Well, Bill Belichick is going to show you
how to do just that when we come back.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
The eighteen.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
On Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
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Speaker 3 (21:50):
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Speaker 9 (21:58):
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Speaker 5 (22:07):
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Speaker 6 (22:09):
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Speaker 9 (22:10):
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Speaker 8 (22:12):
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Speaker 2 (22:15):
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Speaker 2 (22:21):
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Speaker 4 (22:31):
It is the eighteens four SOX seven ninety WEX when
you and Robin were dating?

Speaker 5 (22:38):
All three years of it?

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah, you dated for three years before you got married?
What are you smart? You wanted to figure out what
she was really like? Why not be like me and
just dive in after less than a year on the calendar,
So Robin and you were dating?

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (22:54):
Gone, No, that's not you got that from that. I'm
going back to the original question.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Okay, So, yeah, you and Robert dating, and did you
at any point during.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
This three years? Uh? Figure out?

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Wow? She really she likes this hobby? It's knitting or pickleball?

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Oh, you've got a mock trial today? That's her hobby.
Do you want me to come watch you mocked?

Speaker 4 (23:20):
No?

Speaker 6 (23:20):
I'm just that's what she does. I'm trying to figure
out what hobby it could be for her.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Wait a second, just an she is an attorney, right, yes,
she is an attorney?

Speaker 5 (23:27):
So does she really mock trial? I'm no?

Speaker 8 (23:30):
No?

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Did she do it? When you're in school, you would. Okay,
you've seen rounders. I haven't.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
Oh yeah, that's right, I already knew that. I can
watch it if you'd like me to. I mean, he's
gonna be a lawyer, but he realizes how dumb that
is because he's so good at gambling. It's not gambling.
You think it's a game of luck. Why do you
think the same guys end up at the final table
every single year.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
It's a skill game. One of us has seen it clearly,
and it's not me.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
Okay, So if my girlfriend, who had been dating for.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Multiple years, this is my girlfriend, Robin.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
Had an activity that she liked to do, Like maybe
it's some sort of performance, I would I would support her.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Sure is that? If that's what you're asking, where does
students do mock trials in the classroom or.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
In the courtroom?

Speaker 6 (24:15):
A mock courtroom at law school's kind of have the
availability of things like that, you guys, I just never
really thought, again, that's not really her hobby. This is
what she does. I'm trying to think of the actual hobby. Like,
if she's on the side, she's a yoga instructor, I
would take her class.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
Think about that for just a second.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
She works at one of the hot cycling places first
thing in the morning class a yoga.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Or hot cycling instructor. Would you like to come to
class with me today?

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Gee?

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Let me think. Okay, sure, So I'll want you at wedding. Yeah,
all those people will be between me and you. Go ahead,
teach away.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
But that's the trick right there. Oh would you like
to go to hot cycling with me today?

Speaker 5 (24:59):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (25:00):
Yes, but no, you mean like maybe if she was
trying to earn extra money and she was like a
barista on the side, I would go back to her
coffeehouse hang out.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
So now she's going to be a wearing frumpy clothes
and an apron and probably have nine piercings.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Can I get you?

Speaker 8 (25:16):
Now?

Speaker 5 (25:16):
He talks like that?

Speaker 8 (25:18):
All right?

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Why am I bringing this up? Because being a supportive
significant other. Okay, it's twenty twenty five. We have to
say things politically crancked.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
Whatever it is. You're a significant other of any.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
Kind, yes, and in this case we're talking about a
boyfriend and a girlfriend.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Right, That's why I said supportive boyfriend before it make
its off fence what he is?

Speaker 6 (25:38):
So Bill Belichick supportive boyfriend to a boy also not
in this case, but not in this case, although from
the looks of things, there were definitely males participating in
this co ed adult cheerleading team.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Listen, I'm not judging here, but I am absolutely two
thousand percent judging here. There is a time and a
place for certain chapters of your life to be over.
And I'm going to use a very near to the
heart example of this. You ever notice with like the
dancers or the cheerleaders for pro sports teams here in town,

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like coming up doing what we do for a living,
and like having side gigs, like what I did with
the Texans, You would encounter some of these people, and
a lot of them you knew because of college.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
You went to school with them together, or you went
to high school with them.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
They were now doing this, and oh they're there on
the sid they're a cheerleader. You're working on the sideline
for the Texans broadcast.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
It's kind of cool. How do we wind up here together?
That kind of thing.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
Well, keep in mind all of all of the people,
even though some are still in school, that are NFL cheerleaders. Yeah,
employed NFL cheerleaders, And I think that's a requirement. They're adults.
They either have they're full time cheerleaders.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
Or they have yes, but they're not in a co
ed adult cheerleading team.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
So you're gonna get to the social media aspect of this.
Considering this as best of X, I've got my usual fallback.
I'm gonna read some headlines for you and just decide
which ones you like best. Bill Belichick spotted at Jordan
Hudson's cheer competition after latest UNC loss. Bill Belichick looks
as miserable as you'd expect.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
That's the one right there.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
The reason I want that one is because of the
picture that accompanies the tweet in question.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
Today, the same outlet had a separate story written, maybe
the first or second edition of it, and it reads,
Bill Belichick prepares for Duke by watching Jordan Hudson's adult
cheerleading because they're eating as far and as they can
get on the He is the head coach of a
football team that is not playing very good football. So clearly,

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every single waking moment of this seventy year old's life
has to be spent in the lab. And instead of
preparing for Duke, he's supporting his girlfriend who's not his age.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
I realize what you're trying to do by framing it
that way, but let me ask you a question, and
I need a significant, genuine.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
Ass unlike answer. I got you, exactly a human a
normal human being answer, I got you. If he was currently.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Nine and two coaching the Patriots, Tom's in his prime,
They're going to go to another Super Bowl this year,
and he also, at the same time happens to be
dating this twenty something who is in a co ed
adult cheerleading team universe, and he shows up, he's still
gonna look the same supporting her.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
It wouldn't get nearly I mean, you would.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Get headlines because of who he's dating and what she's doing,
and he's there, like, it wouldn't be the same what
you just got done. Saying feels like, I don't know
ifectly acceptable to say.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
I don't know what measurement tool we would use, but
just walk with me. Here the amount of coverage Bill
Belichick has received period, both for the football reasons, for
all these other reasons here in twenty twenty five, basically
since the report that he was going to be the
North Carolina head coach came out versus all of the
coverage he got in the twenty years prior to that

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night and day, he got almost no coverage. He had
a press conference, it was surly. They covered it, We
wrote about it, we talked about it, we did it impressions.
Then they play another game and we do it all
over again, and that was that. And then we'd spend
six days not talking about him at all. We would
talk about him after games and because of games, and
because of performances in games, and because Tom's playing somewhere
else and he's not winning as much.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
We've talked way more about Bill Belichick, and people, regular
people have posted more about Bill Belichick than at any
point during his professional life, just in one year's time.
While he's coaching very coaching a team that isn't winning games.
I'm not considering and saying he's coaching very poorly. He
has a team that he partially put together that isn't good,
and he's the coach and it's on his watch, he

(29:44):
is solely responsible for it, and they stink, and we
are talking about him more than we ever have in
his entire life.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
Bill Belichi p rely because of.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
That spot at a cheerleading competition in rally supporting his
girlfriend Jordan, who is a member of a co ed
adult cheerleading team.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
And this is from Adam Kessel.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
The follow up to his own tweet reads, if you
think I'm reaching, don't worry.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
There's a video.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
He attaches a video of the actual competition, and then
here come the comments, the first of which is absolutely
spectacular McNeil, same guy who had a brilliantly scathing Josina
Anderson tweet should be a fun season, accompanied by a
picture of Belichick in a Carolina hoodie with his head

(30:33):
set on under the caption Dance Mom's Season five collection two.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
I mean, I'm not sure why this is the case,
but of all the embarrassingly bad reality television shows that
became embarrassingly popular, that is among my all time least
favorite one.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Because it's gross awful. They're bad people, and they're in
charge of little humans who are very, very impressionable age.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
The parents of the children seem equally bad. That's who
I'm talking about.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
Leader of the children as a dance instructor is insanely
The kids aren't gross, they're just the kids are fine.
Every adult that's part of the show. Yeah, that's what
I was getting at.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Alex Stein has weighed in, all right, what do you
got This is the greatest and most bizarre thing I've
ever seen in my life.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
I get it. Well.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
See, the thing is, it's actually not any of those things,
like pick any other coach who has a wife or
daughters and coach Sark went to go see his daughter perform. Coach,
I don't know anybody name a coach, coach Kiffen went
to see his wife do whatever. It's not likely that

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many of them have somebody the age that he does,
who would be glad you said physically performing some sort
of activity, because most coaches are they're not actually that
close to his age. They're in their forties and fifties
and sixties even, but normally they're married to someone within ten, fifty,
even fifteen years of their age, and thus that longtime adult,

(32:04):
not short time adult, longtime adult is probably not in
some sort of physical performance that they're going to support.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Kyle Butler weighs in behind the scenes photos of Bring
It On Part nine plot Struggling at twenty four year
old strives for one last shot at cheerleader glory, but
can she run her grandfather's football program and the adult
co ed cheerleader competition at the same time.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
That's what I like to hear. So that's how it's done.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Like you spot her in the picture in the back
row with her side ponytail.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
That's typical adult co ed cheerleading guard.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Somebody isolates her and the guy standing next to her
with a caption, is this Bill Sun.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
He's got a little bit of a mullet situation.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
I mean his I definitely know Steve is very mullet
pro mullet his actual son.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Somebody asked Groc is this real? It is real? Would
you like to know? Grock's response, gracuss all over. Yes,
this appears to be real.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Multiple sources, including People and Daily Mail, confirm Bill Belichick
attended a cheerleading competition in Rally on November sixteenth, twenty
twenty five, to support his girlfriend Jordanaan Hudson, who competed
with the Code Black team.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
The photos match the reports.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
Yeah, he will give I'm sure an awesome answer when
he's asked about it, because he will get asked about it.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
He's just there being supportive. I love to hear that
from him or whatever. Nothing more. What else is there? Well,
that's what he's saying. There is nothing.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
That's the thing. Like, what's the question? Did you how
did you find time for this? Did you think it
was appropriate for you to be there for your girlfriend
while your team is floundering?

Speaker 5 (33:43):
Can you imagine asking.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
That Bill is going to turn her into the Tom
Brady of adult co ed professional cheerleading.

Speaker 6 (33:49):
Because this is his area of expertise. And again, that
post right there is giving Belichick all of the credit
for Brady a probably.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
Unintentional finding that diamond in the rough. He is grinding
what a great country we live in?

Speaker 5 (34:06):
And there you have it.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
That's the best of X And if case you're wondering,
Bill and Jordan will make a second, separate appearance on
today's show.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
I Can't Wait.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Real quick, just to wrap up, pull little bow on
that Bill Belichick story.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
How many games does he coach now for Carolina? What's
their record? One in? What they have more than one?

Speaker 6 (34:46):
Two? And what it's not too either, dude, they're really
not very good, but it's not two three in?

Speaker 5 (34:52):
What that's it? Right? That's as high as I'm going.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
You can stop there if you want, I will. He did,
so it's not accurate. Oh, he's won four games, dude,
I mean their conference kind of stinks.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
Well, they're stinks too.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
Yeah, they lost last week to Wake and as you
know now, they're prepping for the very very good Devils.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
Do you uh, do you ever think about because I
think about this a lot every time we do a
Bill Belichick story. You remember Tom Brady's roast.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
I just watched a clip of it the other day.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
He was front and center, luckily escaped unscathed when Gronk
spiked a shot glass and took out someone's eye in
the front row. But in all seriousness, how happy did
he look on nights like that? And when he was
doing studio coverage on location and.

Speaker 6 (35:44):
He's done NFL Film's work. He sat down for a
long form interview with his buddy Nick s.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
He was there at the roast.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
We've seen him smile, just not this year and not
during his Patriots coaching career.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
I just he's very very happy in those more moms
and then he willingly traded it in admittedly for a
lot of money.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
I'm sure, but.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I mean, I'm sure he's not doing this for the money.
What's he doing it for because he likes to coach? No,
he doesn't.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
No, one likes no.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Well, if you were to tell me, okay, here are
five football coaches, Bill Belichick's one of them. Pick out
the guy who looks like he's enjoying himself the least
he's gonna win ten out of ten times.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Let's look at it, look at it a different way.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
He doesn't look like he's having any fun coaching, right,
it's pretty much the only thing he's ever done. So
what is he missing out on? What does he wish
he was doing?

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Well?

Speaker 6 (36:38):
Do you think if he wasn't coaching, what would he
be doing that would be making him so happy? Besides
what he currently is doing with.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
More co ed cheerleading competitions.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
He's trying to maintain the relationship, which he obviously values.
But if he were not coming, Really, I have an
adult co ed cheerleading competition night, and you think preparing
for Duke is more important than our relationship, Well, then
I think I know what's coming next.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
I will see you. You know where to you can
leave the key at the door. Sadly, that's probably I start,
and you're not You're not coming with me, then it's over.
If he wasn't he went, If he wasn't highly compensated
as whatever coach on any level that he has been,
and he's been highly compensated to do this for a
long long time, would he still be doing it, because

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that's where if you really love coaching, you'd still be
doing it.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
He had a mutual parting of the ways with the Patriots,
and then what did he do? Hoped to get every
single interview possible from NFL teams, including the Falcons we
all thought were about to hire him because he wanted
to a yes, make money, but he wanted to continue coaching.
When that didn't work out, he took a run of
the mill, random, reasonably mediocre college football.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
Job because he likes to coach, right, I guess that
part of it.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
I'm not trying to say he doesn't want the money.
It's definitely he's asking for as much as he can get.
He doesn't take a low ball off or anything. He's
not doing it out of the goodness of his heart.
Because he loves the tar heels and he's very highly paid,
no question, but he doesn't need the money. She's not
bleeding him dry or anything. And he hasn't wasted his
money on the other women he's been with.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Well, once he marries her and doesn't get a prenup,
she will absolutely do that.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
So this brilliant defensive mind, protector of all things defense,
isn't going to protect himself. He doesn't understand the prenup.
He's devising defenses to stop Peyton manning his whole life.
He doesn't know anything about a prenup.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
A wise man once told me, it's undefeated all time.
I mean, seriously, what it makes guys do dumb things,
even guys like him that are rich, who have everything
to lose.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
Okay, no prenup loses half, okay half if he's lucky,
how much more can she get? That's the question that
she will tell her lawyers. I don't I would actually
if I were him, for my personal sake, I would
not have a prenup and get married. So then we
could all learn a little bit about what you can

(39:13):
go after.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
I don't have a premium. What the fight would be about?

Speaker 6 (39:17):
The grounds this twenty four year Like when people get
divorced and they're in their mid thirties forties, many times
they've been together for years, Somebody put somebody else through school,
somebody started a business that you helped support, and now
you want part of that business. I want to hear
her lawyer's arguments me. I mean, look, we met and
I was twenty two and we were on a plane together,

(39:38):
and now look at me, I'm twenty five, and yeah,
and do you have anything here?

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Are you going anywhere? Counselor I'll tell you what I'm entitled.
You're entitled to what. There's no trouble on the horizon,
and we are entirely whatever the law says. We have
been married ten years in March first. But if something
goes wrong, there's no prenup. I'm going to take her
to the cleaners.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Don't you already take her stuff to the cleaners.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
No, she doesn't do dry cleaning. I do, and I
try to avoid it as much as I can.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
All Right, we'll leave it at that. We will get
back to real sports conversation. Thing on the Spelichicks.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Hudson's no not doing that. Josh Allen's afraid of the Texans. Yeah,
I said it, and so did he. You'll hear from
him saying that next.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Ninety two lifelong Houston sports guys named at him talking
your team.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the eighteen.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Don't mind me, I'm just getting my lighting director to
fix the studio situation here as we begin the simulcast
on Space City Home Network. It is the A Team,
It's Sports Talk seven ninety it is Space City Home Network.
He's wex I may see it's a Wednesday edition of
the program. Abbreviated edition of the program, as we will
get you to Rockets and Calves. You will not see

(41:05):
that on Space City tonight. It is a nationally televised game.
Yes you will, you will. Oh they are okay, So
I thought it was an exclusive, not an exclusive. They
actually added it during the season, was originally correct.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
Why did they do that? The Calves and Rockets are good.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Yeah, but why do they make it exclusive and then
it's not all of a sudden or it's not it was.

Speaker 6 (41:25):
I mean, it wasn't one of their games, and they
believe this for one reason. I think they have reached
their maximum thievery. I think you can only steal so
many games from the local networks.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
Max.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
Yeah, but I don't know if that's specifically for tonight.
Why that's the case. But when they do that, it's
also on Space City. I can't tell you for certain
that every single there's no policy from And again, we
got so many networks we're dealing with, right, it's it's
not I can't say this is exactly how it works
every time, because I don't think that's the case.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
This is why people complain to Adam Silver and other leagues,
not just the NBA. Ah, I can't find the product
or it's too hard to find it. It's for us.
It doesn't seem that way, but I get it.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
I don't. Well, you're bouncing around from service to service.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
I want to watch the Rockets game because for some reason,
I hate Wex Clinton and Matt Thomas. So I'm gonna
watch it on TV. Okay, Well, why do they have
to hate us? Because we have all the games right here.
It's very easy to find. But it's not that hard
to find on TV. You know who carries the games?
Space City Home Network Boom, Oh it's not on Oh
maybe it's on ESPN. Oh, I guess not. Well, I

(42:33):
have the streaming service. It's come a huge NBA fan.
I'll check those Peacock.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
No, not there either. What do I do now?

Speaker 8 (42:40):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (42:40):
Yeah, that an Amazon group. They've got games, right, we'll
just go there next. Okay, here I found it. Now
I can watch the game.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Do you realize that most I almost wasted a whole
minute exactly of my life trying to find one game.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
But people don't want to do that.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
That's not the NBA's problem. Oh but that's their problem.
It actually is the NBA's problem. And here's why. If
you know that that is the attention span you're dealing
with here in society, and you're competing for every eyeball
you can get because you are absolutely bringing up the
rear in the Big three right now, you are. And
that was all just sure. Baseball just proved that numbers

(43:16):
were off the charts and doing.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
To me, it's the Dodgers.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Well, I mean, that's a funny conversation to have in all,
but the players are making sixty some making sixty.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
Million a year.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
The owners are swimming in money. We're selling teams for
three and a half billion dollars.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
I just I think if you want, if you if
your number one priority was getting your well, your number
two priority was getting your product. Out to as many
people as possible, as easily as possible. You would find
a way to go about it differently. But I realized
that the number one priority.

Speaker 6 (43:46):
You that question, like, what's the alternative to doing it
in a different way I can. I've squeezed all the
money out of NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox for years.
I'm still squeezing them really, really hard. It probably hurts
them so much because I'm squeezing them so hard. But
now I've added all these other outlets, and I'm making
even more money. Like NBC couldn't have jumped harder and

(44:07):
faster to get back in bed this go around. And
by the way, they just got in bed with baseball today.
Officially NBC is going to be carrying Major League Baseball games. Now, well,
you're gonna have to We're gonna have to explain to
our listeners that you're gonna have to do some channel
surfing to find your baseball games.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
And some streaming and surfing. I will add to my conversation.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
You might be a big NBA fan, but you might
not have the streaming services, so you might flip on
Space City Home Network be disappointed. You might flip on
ESPN ABC, be disappointed, and then be even more disappointed
when you ultimately find out, Oh, it's a stream only
game and I don't subscribe. I guess I can't watch.
Guess what I got today? Yes, I'll tune into X
and AC.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
And MT my friends right here at Sports Talk seven
to ninety.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
I got a I'm a Team Mobile customer. I don't
really care who knows that there's all sorts of carriers
out there, and with these carriers, as you know, certain
perks with my particular carrier, Apple TV, which is you know,
has been a bugaboo for Minnie Astros fans on five
nights of the year that they can't watch those five

(45:11):
games out of one hundred and sixty two.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
But I digressed.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
I've just I've gotten it because that's what comes with
that subscription to that particular carrier. So today I get
a text message. And this is the world we live in,
and this is what I'm talking about, because we all
know we've gotten messages either like this or just you know,
similar to this. Apple recently announced a price increase. I

(45:36):
got this it just after noon today. Apple recently announced
a price increase, raising Apple TV subscriptions to twelve ninety
nine a month. As a Tea Mobile customer, your plan
includes a nine to ninety nine a month benefit. There
are no changes to your bill now, but effective January first,
your Apple TV will be three dollars a month after

(45:57):
your T Mobile discount. I'm sorry, I know, three dollars
per person, per subscriber, and on and on and on.
I know that adds up to a lot of money,
but you're offering the streaming service unless they increase their subscription.
And now I'm going to have two different bills basically,
well one non bill, and now I've got to pay

(46:18):
this three dollars that's going to be inevitably added to
my either T Mobile bill or I'm gonna have to
come up with it out of my pocket, or it
just won't work that's so dumb.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Or you could decline it, Oh I will. I don't.
I don't need Apple TV. I really don't.

Speaker 8 (46:31):
Look.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
But of the streaming services, it really to me.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
And now you might be like, oh, I watched this
awesome show and Apple TV whatever. I think, by and large,
and I'm not again. All these streaming services come up
with amazing quality content and then a lot of really
bad stuff too.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
Let's face it, they all have exact what a concept? Right?

Speaker 4 (46:52):
But my thing is pound for pound, you've got to
get rid of one. It's like the meme, you got
to get rid of one. Which one is it? It's
gonna be Apple for me almost every time. I'm not
getting rid of Netflix, even though I did and then
I got it back.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
What about the Bird Network? Which one's that? Peacock? Yeah,
Peacock has the NBA and NBC. What about Paramount?

Speaker 4 (47:13):
I mean, how am I going to watch Iron Eagle
Sun do his games if I don't have Peacock?

Speaker 6 (47:18):
What about the obviously Thursday Night Football? You're gonna get
rid of your Amazon Prime account.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
No one will ever get rid of Amazon Prime in
our house, simply because of the amazing amounts of boxes
that start coming daily this time of year.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
And yes, the Thursday night football game is available in
the local markets both in Buffalo and here in Houston.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Okay, Now, in that this is actually something I soldierly
did want to get to, right, And that's something that's
good to know because no matter what kind of platform
nationally the Texans are on, you will always have a
local choice. And that is I think in the collective
bargaining agreement or however they draw these things up. But
as it pertains to that, and this is a serious question,

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and I know this seems very very like petty minutia,
whatever you want to call it. Do you think, by
and large, the typical viewer who is as lazy as
it gets in twenty twenty five, because that's where.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
Society is just sitting there scrolling.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Everything is at our fingertips, and if it takes longer
than a millisecond to get something we want right, then
that's too much. Do you think that more often than
not people are like I have to go to the
streaming service and get rid of what's on my screen
right now.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
Slump of the shoulders for sure. So you see what
I'm talking, I do.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
Get it, and I mean I'll from the path you're
taking me down. I don't know how you turn your
television on each night, m I do know that, when
you know, I push power on the television and a
second power to make sure the box also goes on.
And when the picture comes up, then I have to

(48:58):
scroll mouse to the portion of the TV that says
what I the input. I'd like you was a mouse
what's on the remote? Yeah right, Oh I hate those. Well,
then over where it is and then I click that
and then the picture comes up like that takes nine
seconds maybe, And every time I have to go through
the nine seconds because I've just come in. I know

(49:21):
where the game is, I know what pitch is about
to come, or I know who has the basketball, or
I know what how many minutes are left in the
And I like, come on, man, just go on, just
turn on.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Have I done this scenario before? Been listening to, in
this case a Rockets game on Sports Talk seven to ninety.
I was listening to the free iHeartRadio app. It's free
to download and it sounds crystal clear. But I wanted
to go inside and see the end of this game.
I think it was the Minnesota game last year that
went down to the wire that the Rockets ended up
losing after they blew a double digit fourth quarter elite idiots.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
But anyways, they got Kevin the rants. It's fine.

Speaker 8 (49:51):
Now.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
I had a situation. I have a situation where my
phone controls where I watched TV, which is not like
normal TVs, but it is a projector which takes a
while to fire up. Knowing that and because I have
the ability to do so, did I fire it all
up while I was still in my truck several miles

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from the house.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
But not everybody can do that. And that's what we're
getting to here.

Speaker 6 (50:16):
To make a call to the house and say, hey,
can you turn this on for him? The dogs so
when I get home.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
They don't have opposable thumbs, but a cat cat makes
you work for his affection.

Speaker 5 (50:25):
That was back when Robert de Niro wasn't a crazy person.

Speaker 6 (50:28):
I just he was acting though, right For all you
know he was what was he Cia in that movie?

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Yeah? Yeah, x Cia bomb bomb bomb bum bum ba bomb. Anyway,
I think that that is why Josh Allen fears the
Texans defense.

Speaker 5 (50:45):
See right there, what a tease.

Speaker 6 (50:46):
Well, we will get him, no, no, Josh Allen this segment,
we're gonna get him.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Talking about the Texans defense. And conversely, we will get
his counterpart at quarterback Money Mills games, those trade face
on the Buffalo defense.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
We'll do all that when we come back.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
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Believe you wrote that in the rundown nothing important, how
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Speaker 6 (51:22):
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I'll be doing the countdown from five thirty to six.
Matt Thomas takes over with the call. He and myself
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back home for a huge matchup with the Denver Nuggets.
That's if everything goes according to plan. Nothing when according
to plan. Last segment, we did not hear from either
quarterback going into this game, but we will hear. We'll
hear from both quarterbacks, starting with Josh Allen, who absolutely
fears the Texans defense.

Speaker 10 (52:17):
Didn't play well at all. Watching that film, there's a
lot of good stuff to watch from that film, but
it's hard to watch, you know, I played pretty badly.
So yeah, hopefully we can go out there and play
a little bit better and move the ball a little
bit better. But again, this defense is no easy task
to go against, and it's gonna take everything that we
got from everybody on the field.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
Yeah, obviously he didn't say he was afraid of the
Texans defense, but it's clear. I mean, just listen to him.
His voice is shaking. He's nervous. He knows that the
same thing that happened last year right in this very building,
NRG Stadium tomorrow night is gonna happen again.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
It's gonna be Will Anderson Junior.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
It's gonna be Danil Hunter, it's gonna be that secondary,
it's gonna be that pass rush, it's gonna be that
defensive unit as a whole getting after him. And I'm
not calling like giving Yeah, Josh, I get it, man,
giving him the type of bad day at the office
that he's only used to when he plays.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
This franchise played so badly, so badly against the Texans
here in Houston last year early in the season that
Kamy Fairwarn had to make a fifty nine yard field
goal on the last play of the game to beat them.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Well, I never said the offense was inflicting fear in
anybody from.

Speaker 6 (53:25):
He played so badly that they still scored twenty points,
got twenty points, still got the game. That's five more
than the Texans allow this year. Yeah, well that was
that was last year. This year you're getting dead points.
Was able to get the Bills from being again this
game they had last year, They've played like five of

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them this year. Texans totally absolutely dominating. They actually were
on the scoreboard. They were up twenty to three with
twenty five minutes left. Then the Bills scored a touchdown
and another touchdown and a field well and the game
was tied into the final minute. Because they still couldn't
put them away. Fairburn had to make three lengthy field

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goals over the course of the game, forty seven to fifty,
and they aforementioned fifty nine yarder to prevent meeting overtime.
But Josh Allen was spectacularly bad, and that's what he
was talking about. You know, a performance like that for
a guy who's been in the league and starting and
playing at a high level for such a long period
of time. He doesn't even usually have a game like
that in any season, certainly not you would think in

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an MVP season. He erroneously won the MVP last year
and had a game like that the very same season.
He went nine for thirty. Now, he did run for
fifty four yards on just four totes. He didn't throw
any interceptions. That's one thing he's somehow managed to avoid
against the Texans. In each of the games against them,
It's only had that one interception over those multiple seasons

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that he has played overall very poorly. I mentioned in
the opening hour that is seventy four point one passer
rating against them is the worst of any team in
the NFL. He worst football against Houston than anyone else.
It's not because he chooses it that date. It's because
they have defended him very well, notably one game. If
it's a game against any other iteration of the Texans defense, Honestly,

(55:11):
I really don't care. It's nice to put the stats
out there, and I did twice, and I'll post them
for anyone who wants to see them, But it only
matters what he's done against the team that they actually have,
and just a year ago, this is a pretty close
production of what they were doing and what they will
try to do again. Texans will have to change a
few things up. The personnel hasn't changed tremendously. Obviously, Jalen
Petrie is not available for them. They're down again both

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safeties because they're not going to get MJ. Stewart back,
So Miles Bryan is essentially one of your starters. They've
played heavy in their eleven man defense by having a
third linebacker on the field a lot more often over
the last couple of weeks, both for that's just a
better group of players and who they've played against, the
Titans and Jaguars. I think they knew that that was

(55:56):
something they could do. I think there should be less
of it this week. Dalton Kincaid being out is rather
important for Josh Allen. I don't think he plays Dawson
Knox nearly the same way and he obviously they have
their own issues.

Speaker 5 (56:10):
Everyone was talking about.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
Monday Night Football with two Cowboys receivers being disciplined and
held out of the opening series of the game by
their head coach. I don't think that many people were
talking about Keon Coleman's disciplinary situation with Buffalo and it
doesn't seem like he was taking it seriously enough.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
But I'm not there every day.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
I'm sure his teammates and he have handled it, but
he doesn't really have a go to guy. Josh Allen
is so good. He's made it work. He obviously made
it work last week with Shavers. He's made it work
some weeks with Shakiri, will make it work other weeks
when Kincaid's been healthy. And that also is challenging because
where is the ball going? You don't really know because
he doesn't either half the time, because he makes these

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plays happen by extending these plays forever. Gotta be disciplined.
They can't over rush. They can't they just if they
do that, if they stick to their job, which is
staying in the rush lanes. We actually talked to a
couple of guys about that this last week against cam Ward,
and they thought that that was one of the reasons
why they had as much success against him as they did.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
The same thing will hold true for most running quarterbacks.
You just have to do it for longer.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
I mean, essentially, you're running almost two plays any one
play that you don't bring him down because he's just
extending it. For that much longer. It's very difficult to
stay in coverage with your guy for that long period
of time. That's how he got two of the touchdowns
last week.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Conversely, though, Davis Mills, do you think he's afraid of
the Buffalo Bills defense.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
I'd love to hear his comment on that. All right, Well,
here it is Davis Mills from yesterday talking about the
Buffalo defense coming here to NRG Stadium tomorrow night.

Speaker 7 (57:49):
They disguise a lot and coverage a lot of different
blitz packages where they're showing one thing and end up
getting to another thing post snap, and I mean it's
credit to them. They do it at a high level.
A lot of those guys have played together for a
long time, so they're able to kind of feed off
each other and make each other look good and make
each other's disguises actually believable. So a lot of our

(58:10):
game plan is just really not letting the pre snap
stuff kind of bog you down too much and really
just reacting and playing fast post snap. See those spaces
in the coverage, see how everything rotates post snap, so
we can get the ball out fast and continue to
drive down the field.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Be efficient. It's all about driving down the field and
being efficient.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
I if they do that, I actually do feel slightly
good about this this game, as crazy as that sounds,
as like Buffalo just looks like there's such a better
team coming in, But the Texans defense, I have that
much faith in it.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
It is that much of an of an equalizer to me.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Just seeing what they've done to anybody this year, good teams,
bad teams. They've they've they've shown up.

Speaker 6 (58:59):
What they need to do is exactly that, because that's
all they've been able to do with Davis. These are drives.
These aren't explosive plays. They've been the opposite of explosive
most of the year. So it's not a Mills thing.
It's just how they are. They were much more explosive
last year, obviously, Nico Collins a great example of that.
These big fifty sixty seventy yard plays, they're not there

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this year. They had the one play immediately after the
turnover when they were in Jacksonville, their lone touchdown in
that game. That was one of the most important plays
of the game. It was probably their biggest pass play
of the season, and they just haven't had very many
of them. They had fewer since Davis Mills has been
out there because they don't like Davis Mills to go
through his reads. They like Davis Mill. I don't know

(59:42):
if they like it or not, but I'm telling you
what's happening.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
Snap.

Speaker 6 (59:45):
Look, throw seventy five percent of his passes. That's what
they've been for the two starts.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
And in that vein you're probably talking about maybe not intentionally,
but maybe it is intentionally dnking and dunking on the passes.

Speaker 6 (59:58):
Well, it's not dinking and dunking if you're you know,
gaining ten and fifteen and eighteen yard chunks, which is
part of it. But you are driving the field, well,
you're not explosively three plays seventy yards touchdown.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
That's another way of defending Josh Allen. Yeah, he came
off the field for sure. I mean that that. I
have zero problem with that. So long as you're continuing
to move the chains. If you're doing it at an
incremental pace, which is little by little, you want to
call it death by a thousand cuts.

Speaker 6 (01:00:22):
Whatever CJ does, he's done. He's said that multiple times
this year.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Well, that controls the clock better than a run game, well,
not quite better than a run game.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
They all that one, so it is. It is what
they use to control the clock. They've been among the
league leaders all year, long time in time of possession,
and when they have the time of possession advantage, they've
obviously fared a whole lot better. It keeps your defense fresh. Presumably,
if you have the ball that long, you've gained enough
yards to put points on the board too, even if
they're three.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
I think Kyami's going to have a workout tomorrow night.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
I wish that weren't the case, but I tend to agree.
We're going to see how just how well he is healed.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
If we're finding out how well he's healed and they're
in big trouble, well.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
Well, I mean also from the standpoint of I'm not
saying he wasn't a sure thing, but he was kind
of like Eah a few weeks before he got hurt.
He wasn't as reliable as you would have.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
Liked he He seems like the exact same kicker he's
always been. To me, I believe he's going to make
the kicks, and he misses his seven or eight kicks
a year, five or six kicks a year. He's what
you saw from Matthew Wright hitting the upright on a
thirty one yard kick is why I would re sign
Kyamie Fairbairn until he shows me he can't kick anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
And I'm glad that they have.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
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I was, uh, we're text him back and forth last night,
me and a few and I got a an indication
that someone had made another funny about Chosina Anderson and

(01:02:21):
her obsession borderline.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
Obsession with the Shadoor Sanders.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
How would you describe it? You're more diplomatic than me,
so let's hear how you would describe how she covers
Chador Sanders.

Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
The I think there's a belief from her that he's
being unfairly covered in one direction, so she is providing
the ridiculous unfair coverage in the other direction.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
That is a very diplomatic way of putting it. She's
wrong because I don't think he's being He's not being
covered a certain way.

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
He's been being covered incredibly poorly, incredibly poorly. How for
every which way, the positive side, the negative side, the
inaccurate side, the I don't know how to cover a
football team side. I'm embarrassed by the people to cover
the game over the last two weeks or last week.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Give me an example.

Speaker 6 (01:03:03):
Uh, we have to keep explaining to the people that
I don't know. If it doesn't seem like it's just fans,
it seems like other people covering the NFL. You are
the backup? Do you not know how practice works? Is
this your first day here? Are you new here? Backups
don't practice with the ones. This is not new. This
is not a Stefanski rule. This isn't a Brown's rule.

(01:03:24):
They didn't just institute it because they hate Shade or Sanders.
This is how all backup quarterbacks are treated. Other backup quarterbacks.
There aren't that many of them currently starting. Davis Mills
is one. He's getting asked about, well, how many reps
did you get during this term? Because people are stupid.
I'm sorry they're dumb. If you don't know this by now,
then you're not paying enough attention to the game.

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
They're the backups.

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
They don't practice for twenty five hours each week. They
practice a couple times a week for a couple of
hours the actual on field practice. There's plenty of time
for mental reps. That's what backups get. They don't work
out with the ones. You know why because the head
coach could care less if Davis Mills has a good
connection with Nico Collins while Davis Mills wears a baseball

(01:04:08):
cap to the entire game next week. He cares if
CJ has a good relationship with him on the field.
He cares if those two guys got to work it
during the practice, got to go through the play calls
during practice that CJ. Stroud could hear from Nick Cayley,
this is what we want to do. They can all
be in the classroom together and they are. This time
of year. You don't get those reps. You get a small, small,

(01:04:29):
small samp. I could run through my notebook which I
emptied every day for you during training camp and maybe
say you caught a couple of reps here with the
ones because CJ. Stroud wasn't throwing that day like Davis Mills.
Lucky to get number one reps at times and this
was anything. But that was also during the off season

(01:04:50):
workout program during OTAs during many camps things like that.
So yeah, he did get work with the one that
was just that's the way it was. If Aaron Rodgers
decides not to show up for some non mandatory workout,
well then the terrible backup that is behind him will
get those number one reps. So he does actually get
work with the ones. Shardoor Sanders getting his first work

(01:05:12):
with the extremely uber talented ones in Cleveland in a
football game in the middle of his rookie season not
a story, totally normal. And Luke McCown and Dan Orlovsky
and Chase Daniel and many Brian Hoyer career backup quarterbacks

(01:05:33):
had to go two great lengths. I mean, I know
there used to be a character limit on the X platform.
There is not one anymore for those that are checked.
I mean, Luke McCown wrote a book trying to explain
to people this is how it works.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
This is why it's so difficult.

Speaker 6 (01:05:50):
Did Mills play Just a quick question, you think Mills
played better in the game he had a week's worth
of practice for or the game where he came in
relief of CJ.

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
Stroud middle of the game. It's easy question.

Speaker 6 (01:06:01):
It's freaking rhetorical, and the same thing just happened to
Shudeur Sanders. He happens to be in an even worse
position because he's a rookie and he hasn't been through
this before. Davis Mills has been in the NFL for
five years. This is year five. He's played behind CJ Stroud.
This is year three. He's been at every meeting CJ
has been to, if not more, now technically more because
of what happened to CJ.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
Shoulder. Has been a a.

Speaker 6 (01:06:21):
Handful of practices with a terrible offense, with a coach
who had to give up play calling this year, and
he went to camp with a team that had five quarterbacks,
four of them on the field, two of which have
since been traded, and a guy on the practice squad.
The Texas have had three quarterbacks here all year, no
more and no less. There's no other guy here, there's
no other person to bring in. They don't have to
get anybody else up to speed. They're not learning any

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it's all the same. He's an awful situation. Not because
they hate him, not because Kevin Stefanski is anti him,
not because the coaching staff doesn't want him.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Even though management drafted him.

Speaker 6 (01:06:55):
He's in a bad position because he's the fourth string
quarterback the dumb third day of the draft, the dumb
franchise drafted him. That's not his fault, that's their fault.
And then everything else that happens since then is normal.
In the NFL, you don't give your backup quarterbacks number
one reps. Now, maybe in Cleveland you do because you're
gonna lose anyway. The coaches don't operate like that. I

(01:07:17):
don't want Davis Mills taking number one reps during the
week when the Texans are about to play the Bills
and CJ's the starter.

Speaker 5 (01:07:23):
Nobody does. This is normal.

Speaker 6 (01:07:26):
Can we normalize the coverage at some point all of
this to say he's starting this week because the guy
that was playing in front of him not going to
clear concussion protocol.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
He's still in it. Dylan Gabriel. He's the backup to Gabriel.
He starts now.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
Also normal, not mandatory, because Davis Mills actually was the
backup when CG got hurt in twenty twenty three, did
get the number one reps that week leading up to
practice for the game for all we knew against Tennessee,
and then they started case Keenum anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
So why does she go out of a way to
go so far in the other direction.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
Then that's my question. She's the only one doing this?

Speaker 6 (01:08:06):
Uh she really there's one other person, really, I think
so I'm gonna double check right now.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
If it is just sheerly pro chadur or trying to
fight the power, as it seems.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
To me Josina Anderson, this is not a fight. She
has a nice sized platform, for sure, But I don't
think anybody is like, oh, well, this is some you know,
She's on one side of it, which again, their sides
to this. He's a rookie quarterback. He had a spectacular
year in terms of playmaking for a football team that
was very down and then got very interesting and now

(01:08:43):
they're extremely down again.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Mary Kay Cabot had had posted the following Browns Kevin
Stefanski said Dylan Gabriel will be back as the starter
once he clears the concussion protocol, but acknowledges a lot
has to happen. Josina Anderson quote tweeted that and said
exact Kevin Stefanski two and eight is mistaken if he
thinks the hashtag non debut proves anything, because it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
But why is she now She's taking something and spinning
it into how she wants to frame it. That's why
I'm asking why is she doing this? Because this is
what she wants?

Speaker 6 (01:09:19):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I can't sit here and say
she must believe it because there's I don't know why
she would like everything I said. Did I at any
point talk about good or bad football from Shador Salers?

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
Not one.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
That's the most important part, because should be he would
be getting these first reps.

Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
If he was good, well, if he was ahead of Gabriel,
which he's not, or the other quarterbacks on the roster
them there's your answer, though.

Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
Well, he's a fifth round pick. Fifth round picks don't win.

Speaker 5 (01:09:47):
Starting job almost ever, shouldn't have been.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
She thinks he was discriminated against, and that's why he
was taken in the fifth round to begin with. It's
all about every the whole world is stacked against now the.

Speaker 6 (01:10:01):
Except he's like the most privileged entering the NFL draft
pick you could find because he just happens to be
Dion Sanders kid. And I mean he's he is different
partially because of that. He actually has major advantages. He
knows about the NFL a lot more than most other
people do. But that doesn't have anything to do with
your talent. Either you're good or you're not, or you
can get good or you can't. And that second part,

(01:10:24):
give me a break. If you think you already know
the answer to that, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
I just she's something.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
They're like, you always talk about, Okay, where you're gonna
choose that hill to die on?

Speaker 8 (01:10:38):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
Is this the hill?

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
I think she's already dead personally from a media career standpoint, Yeah, no,
I agree. It's break time.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
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Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Yet, a break from the football and basketball conversation that
we've dominated the show with. I'm all for it. What's left?
Where's Jake Myers going centerfield here in Houston.

Speaker 6 (01:11:22):
So the idea that this is a possible trade ship,
it's definitely real. I don't think there's any doubt about it.
You've heard a little bit about that. As the offseason
has begun, seen a couple of signings. The astros avad
Or pitcher, they had to make some forty man roster
decisions earlier this week, didn't really mention that they dfa'd
Ramona Reus earlier this week so they could get one

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of their pitchers of the miners, MIGUELI Lola on the
forty man roster protect him from the Rule five draft.
They'll also have to make decisions on their thirteen arbitration
eligible players, at least in terms of tendering them deals
and moving along with the process of keeping them here.
They have club control should they tender them contracts, but

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those decisions have to be made. The majority of those
decisions are fairly easy. I believe they want to keep
Hunter Brown here and Jeremy Payania handful of others Brian
Obrew have him under contract at least, and presumably you
could actually dangle some of them if you wanted to.

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
They shouldn't in.

Speaker 6 (01:12:21):
Trade deals, but those decisions have to be made by
the end of the week. Jake Myers is one of
those players year two of arbitration eligibility, so do for
a moderate raise, and he did have. For Jake a
good season. He obviously hit for a lot better average.
He had an ops of mid seven twenties. His ops
plus was a little over one hundred. One hundred is average,

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so he was slightly above average, And it's also worthwhile
to note I do think the team missed him. This
particular team missed him when he was out. He is
still in my opinion, there aren't three center fielders that
play the fielding portion of center field better than he does.
There might not be two players that do that. He

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saves innings, he saves runs. He gets pitchers out of
jams all the time. How many times did a pitcher
come in with the runners on base, first batter smash
three hundred and eighty five feet center field, Jake just
calmly chases it down and they head back into the dugout,
and he kept two runs off the board.

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
Those things matter.

Speaker 6 (01:13:20):
You don't see them when you look up his numbers
and you see that he hit two seventy five, but
he didn't have any homers, and he hardly drove in
any runs. Well, instead of driving in two runs to
make it a three to two lead, and he just
kept it a three to nothing lead because two runs
didn't score because he chased it down. But I can't
tell you he's one of the best center fielders in
baseball because he has a terrible arm. It's so easy

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to run on him. Still amazed more teams don't do it,
and the more he plays, the more that they will.
So there's some good, some bad. No power. Hit three
home runs last year and did not drive the ball
for extra base power either. It's got to be a
concern when there are potentially other holes if you have
any kind of confidence in Zach Cole or Jacob Melton.
Jacob Melton's been at the top of your prospect list

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as an outfielder for several years now. He and Bryce Matthews.
Bryce Matthews is another player. Do you want to keep
Bryce Matthews, Zach Cole, and Jacob Melton continuing to play
for sugar Land or is it time for them to
play for the Astros you want to win? So I'm
not saying this is an easy decision. Is Cam Smith
one spot? Do you have to dedicate the other spot

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to a Jordan jose Al Tuve Combo. They have bodies
to cover for a Jake Myers absence, and if you
can find teams that want him, I would absolutely investigate
moving him.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
Just I'm wondering how many outfield if, like, if you
move Jake Myers, I'm wondering what the I'm wondering what
the lineup looks like.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
His replacement is batting eighth or ninth. Who's his replacement though, it's.

Speaker 6 (01:14:55):
Either Zach Cole or Jacob Melton unless there's an outsider
to the organization that comes here. For all, almost no money,
because you're not going to spend your money on a
on a Jake Myers replacement. If you wanted to do that,
you just keep Jake. You're spending your money on other positions,
mostly pitching.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
I was about to say for all the people that
have these grandiose dreams of a revamped lineup, honestly, and
this is not sexy.

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
It's not what people are gonna want to hear.

Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
A healthy Astros lineup takes care of a lot of
the problems you had last year. And then, like you said,
you invest any type of free agent spending this year
in everybody not named Hunter Brown, because everybody not named
Hunter Brown is a question mark right now.

Speaker 6 (01:15:35):
So let's say, without from ber Valdez in the rotation,
you're not going to be turning as many double plays.
They're not gonna be as many groundballs hit that you
need jose Al Tuba to flip and fire or to
dive and catch and flip to Jeremy Panna. Okay, so
now he's your second baseman. He plays a lot of
second base this year, and Jordan plays a lot of
left field this year. And Esach Peretis is your designated

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hitter for a lot of your games. Okay, Well, I
don't know what order you want him in today, it's
only November nineteenth. But that puts al Tuve and Paynya
and Christian Walker, Jordan Alvarez and Carlos Correa and Essoc
Perettis in your lineup every single day. That's your top
six with Walker being six. Yes, I think Jiner Diaz

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is going to be here. He would probably bat more
in the top six. But if he's not here, your
catcher might not be one of your top top six options.
And it leaves that position along with the other two
outfield positions. Whoever's playing center field and presumably Cam Smith.
That's your nine person, so to speak, regular everyday lineup.

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That's committing to putting Jose Altuve in a bad defensive
spot a lot. It's committing to a lot of innings
in the outfield to jord On because you haven't moved
Walker and if you haven't moved Walker, the only way
to get escoc Peretta's bat in the lineup is the
alignment I just gave you.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
And then, are you bringing back Victor Karattini? Well, I
would like to think you are.

Speaker 6 (01:17:05):
Yes, I would too, and especially if you're looking to
move on from Jiner I'm not saying they are well Jinerds,
Christian Walker, Jake Myers. If those trades can help you
set up the team a little bit more advantageous for
who's still on the roster, like we're just talking about,
then you would have to look at it. I mean,
of all the players they have, he's got the brightest

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future and he makes very little money for several more years.
I think he would be desirable in trade, but it
would be a loss as much as people, I don't
know why they loved him for years when he was
playing with Maldy and now they're okay getting rid of him.
He did not have a good year and did not
ascend like it looked like he was going to a
couple of years ago. He's definitely plateaued and nobody loves

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swinging the bat more than I mean, you go to
the batting cage you throw your quarters in the machine.
You don't even swing as much. You even let some
of those pitches go by. Yiner doesn't. He doesn't let
any pitches go by. It's not really team friendly. It's
very anti what the astros like to do. Would could
you go into next year with neither of them? I
certainly hope not, because now you have to spend money

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on somebody else. You're not going into the year with
Sally as you're you're starting every day catcher.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
And the other big question mark is what's what what's
Cam Smith's immediate future?

Speaker 6 (01:18:22):
I would be I know Joe has said it and
Dana kind of put it out there. Similarly, Dana Brown
will be on Astraline tomorrow night, by the way, after
we finished at six o'clock. Uh, Todd Kallis and the
crew will have that astraline for you. But he's got
I guess he has to win the job, but I
fully expect him to. He's your everyday right fielder. I'm
not even thinking about it. He's your everyday right fielder.

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Let the other teams prove that they still have the
upper hand and they've made the adjustments and he hasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
I would think he comes back and tries to play
with more consistency and makes the necessary adjustments. But we
have to be open as sending him back to Triple
A if he hasn't turned the corner.

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
You said that like you're reading that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
Yeah, it's a quote from Dana Brown, the guy who
is in charge of this.

Speaker 6 (01:19:05):
Totally fair thing to say. That was more my opinion.
I believe he will go out there, win the job
and be there every day. Guy, he might believe it too,
but he also said that very fairly. They didn't have
They had the option last year and they chose not
to send him down, and he's opening the door to
having that option this year, but sending him down hopefully
they don't have to.

Speaker 5 (01:19:23):
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From Rockets bas ketball coverage getting underway here on your
home for Rockets basketball, Sports Talk seven to ninety. Calves
will be the opponent tonight. Donovan Mitchell has already made
the rounds on the national circuit talking about tonight's game
and his start to the season. He is put up
thirty seven in his last game. He is a walking bucket,

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as they say. But the Rockets defense is very good,
their offense is even better, and this should be a
good matchup tonight, especially of the road variety. I keep thinking,
I mean, you look at December, Rockets have four home games.

Speaker 5 (01:20:33):
The whole month. Well, they also have scheduled games. Yeah,
there's the second week of the calendar is blanks.

Speaker 6 (01:20:41):
As we stand right, they'll still have a couple of
games in there, just don't know what who they'll play,
where or when because the tournament games have not been
put in place, and of those that don't make the tournament,
those games have also not been.

Speaker 5 (01:20:52):
Put in place.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
I'm really looking forward to their entire schedule in January, February, March,
and April being inside Toyota Center though.

Speaker 6 (01:20:58):
Should be a lot of games there. The current sit
at half in half. They've played now half of their
home games of the twelve have been at home, but
that's only because they completed a three game home stand
won all three of those games. They've got a four
game winning streak. They're about to start five of six
on the road. Darius Garland had a very slow start
to the season and that he was not available to
them early and his back out again. They've got a

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couple of injury issues heading into tonight's game, but obviously
is the most significant one. To ten and five start
probably about about what you would have expected for them.
I don't know some of whom they've lost to might
have fallen in that group, considering they're zero for the
season against the Raptors, two of their five losses. Both
of their games against the Raptors are losses. Raptors actually

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aren't embarrassing this year, even though the Rockets did that
to them earlier, a loss of the Celtics, a loss
in one of the two back to back games they
played to the Heat. Similarly, Heat aren't embarrassment and they
opened the season with a loss to the Knicks. So
they've won ten out of their last fourteen, and the
offense is what they have done quite well, thirty point
nine points per game. Each of the four other players

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that will start alongside him tonight, likely they're all at
fourteen points per game or better. And anytime you hearing
numbers about this NBA season, I don't want to compare
them to any other seasons. This season is so far
out on an island right now, and I don't know
if it's ever coming back.

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
These numbers.

Speaker 6 (01:22:21):
We're seeing the individual scoring numbers clearly that then go
into the team scoring numbers.

Speaker 5 (01:22:27):
They're just not we're not used to them.

Speaker 6 (01:22:29):
They're certainly not like last year, and they're even less
like the year before. So thirty point nine points per game,
honestly to me, is it's like twenty seven. Well, it's
still awesome, it's still going to be at the top
of the league, but it's so much more eye popping.
But it's thirty point nine out of the one twenty
whatever they're averaging or the one thirty seven they might
get tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
What point is it? This is actually who they are
and it's not a fluke.

Speaker 5 (01:22:56):
Well the league or the teams like they're totally different.
While talking about the Rockets offensively.

Speaker 6 (01:23:02):
Oh this is I mean, this is I would be
shocked if this is who they are because they're going
to start calling the games differently now. The Rockets are
going to have to continue shooting a free throw percentage
which is much more acceptable.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
They I still wish it was higher, but they had
nowhere to go but up after last year.

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
I mean, to me, looking at what they do on
a nightly basis, just this last game is a pretty
good example. They don't win, they don't get the overtime
unless they were the better free throw shooting team. Orlando
missed eight free throws. The Rockets shot more and missed less.

Speaker 5 (01:23:30):
And that never happened. Last year was the opposite. Actually,
they lost game.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
They lost Game two of the playoff series with the Warriors,
in large part because Alfre and Chingoon could not make
a free throw to save his life.

Speaker 6 (01:23:40):
And how did they finish things off? Well, they hit
four straight free throws to end the game. Reed Shepherd
hit two. A men Thompson these were and they were huge.
I mean, Wendell Carter went to the free throw line
in a three point game in that same timeframe, made
his first attempted to intentionally miss the second, which he
banged off the backboard and went in. But the magic

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kind of thought, okay, we got what we wanted.

Speaker 5 (01:24:07):
You missed right. Well, yeah, technically because he had a
lane violation. He violated the lane.

Speaker 6 (01:24:14):
He threw it off the backboard and immediately ran into
the lane. But that's like the worst thing ever. Making
it is fine, missing it is even better. A lane
violation is a disaster. You can't grab the offensive rebound
and you don't get the point.

Speaker 5 (01:24:29):
That's not what they were after. I thought it was
awesome it.

Speaker 6 (01:24:31):
It was very awesome for Houston, but that's not really
what you want to do. And we commented on it
during the game, that very specific lane violation. It was
extremely important at that point in the game, less than
five seconds they called it. It shouldn't be treated that way.
They let those calls go all the time, and I
hate it. It's such a simple call and guys would

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never do it if they called it. I'm not talking
about the guys pushing each other into the lane. I'm
talking about the shooter just waltzing on in there whenever
he feels like it, and that's illegal unless it's already
hit the rim. But the Rockets were very, very good
at the free throw line back to back games better
than eighty five percent. They have five such games this
season that just almost never happened last year and they're

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still getting to the free throw line a ton It's
also a number that's way up league wide, but they
were already in that stratosphere last year. That's why it
made it so awful. We're getting to the free throw
line more than anybody else in the league, and we
can't make them. So it's not very advantageous to keep
drawing fouls and keep going to the line if you're.

Speaker 5 (01:25:33):
Not gonna make them. That just means the games longer.

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
Means the games longer, and you're that much more angry
about it. They're doing an awesome job this year of
defending without fouling. Maybe it's led a little bit to
their defensive rating not being quite as good as you want,
but they're not fouling as often this year. They're getting
fouled way more often, they're shooting way more free throws.
The other team isn't getting the you know, the opportunity

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of having a positive offensive possession because you bailed them
out with a foul for whatever reasons or whatever group
they've had out there, just a different personnel they're using
this year. That that is something I would love to
see continue defending without fouling.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
So tonight with Donovan Mitchell being the again walking bucket
that he is, It'll be very interesting to see how
they handle defending him, like how much Amen Thompson is
on him versus you know, rotating any Again, you put
primary defenders on guys, they get switched off all the
time because the offense is looking to get the most

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advantageous matchup. But all those things that you just said,
and how they come into play against a team like
this like Cleveland's what number two in the East, I
think right now, yep, really really good start of the year,
just like last year. And by the way, they were
playing very well. I think that was a February game
last year when the Rockets went up to Cleveland and

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just abused them, I mean, they destroyed them. Now, I
don't think I don't think Evan Mobley played in that game.
I'm not sure they had somebody big that was out.
Donovan Mitchell played, but I don't think Evan Mobley played
that night. And then they played them very close to each other.
I feel like Cleveland came back to Houston pretty quickly thereafter.

Speaker 5 (01:27:15):
But it's a good, good early season test.

Speaker 6 (01:27:17):
Well, they played twice in a four day span, that's
what I thought, and there fed him by one and
beat him by four.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
Yeah, but it didn't seem like that. They had a
huge lead on them in Cleveland, and I think they
let them come all the way back in the fourth
quarter before gutting it out.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
They dominated that game. I mean, if that's what you
think happened, I'll just go with it.

Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
It's not like Cleveland outscored the Rockets twenty five to
fifteen in the fourth quarter to come all the way back.

Speaker 5 (01:27:38):
Just like you said, you're amazing, man, I don't know
why suck at that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
Well, I just I'm not good at I'm good at
like the weirdest, randomnest things. And then I think random
it just common math basically a year ago, and you're
right on it.

Speaker 5 (01:27:52):
Hey, do some math in your head. Stop it. Don't
talk to me. That's me.

Speaker 6 (01:27:55):
Look, Yeah, it was a very different look. It was
a mobiley list game for them. Garland was playing, but
Mobile was not. But yeah, I like, I don't what.
I really don't want them to do tonight, and I
don't think they will. This is not something that especially
an eme Udoka coach team does. They're not looking ahead
to Denver Well The other thing they're doing is they're

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getting used to life without Tari Eason. I don't know
definitively what the story will be with Javari Smith Junior,
but he was listed as questionable with tendonopathy there and
it's a knee. Probably in the next twenty minutes or so,
should have a definitive answer on that, but that would
obviously significantly change how the Rockets those two and the.

Speaker 5 (01:28:36):
Last couple of games.

Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
I don't really feel like e Mas set on any
particular plan, and I'm totally down for that. Let's see
what this team is, What is it we need this night?
Where are we at in this game? What are we missing?
What do we need more of? They played eight guys
in the game against Orlando. Aaron Holliday was one of
those eight. Off the bench. Jay Shawn Taate might be

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an option one night. I honestly think they could and
should look at Jeff Green a little bit more than
they do. If they're down, you know, multiple bodies and
they still play. Yeah, so I'm not sure what he'll
do against this particular team. They still I think it's
still overlooked and maybe further into the season it will
have paid so many dividends.

Speaker 5 (01:29:16):
We won't overlook it.

Speaker 6 (01:29:18):
Having three available true centers every night is awesome. I
don't they dominate on the glass every night at some
point in the game. There's a stretch of the game,
the game against Orlando, they had a very very small
rebound advantage for the first three quarters and then the
final seventeen minutes. If the Magic missed, they weren't getting it,
And if the Rockets missed, they were absolutely getting two

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and three more chances at it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
And Capella wasn't even a huge part of it.

Speaker 6 (01:29:42):
But the option is always there if somebody's in foul trouble,
if you just are trying to buy minutes, if this
matchup is when you know the other team just has
no answer for it, you double bigot. And remember he
moved away from the double big starting lineup Eme did
almost immediately. They did it for two games. They've played
their next ten without it as a starting group. But
there's a bunch of chunks in each of these games

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that have followed where they use it, and that's why
they keep putting up these sixty to forty rebound advantage
games and these twenty rebound offensive rebounding games. I mean,
grabbing twenty offensive boards in any game when you're one
of the better shooting teams than the league this year
and they are around forty nine percent, Like, the percentage
you're getting is outrageous, and it shows they're not only

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the number one offensive rebounding team in the league. And
I'll measure that by percentage. There's nobody close to them.
They're so far out in front of everybody else, and
it's it's really a credit to how they've put the
roster together. So when they were shooting poorly last year,
it saved them. Well, they're shooting very well this year.

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That's why they've had so many lopsided games.

Speaker 5 (01:30:48):
I hope it's another one tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
I hope they crush them on the boards and it's
their tenth winn and they come back home with a
big matchup against admittedly Denver is they're a problem. They
are are an absolute problem this season. And yokicch is
not slowing down at all. I've never seen somebody look
so unathletic be so good at a sport.

Speaker 5 (01:31:08):
And that's that's joker to a t all right. When
we come back.

Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
My favorite non rocket in the NBA by far right
now after what he said, plus a very novel approach
to these primetime NFL games and how they're scheduled.

Speaker 5 (01:31:23):
We'll get to all that next.

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Oh, you never even mentioned that Andrew Whitworth, who's going
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That's my fault for not mentioning that sooner, because A
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that comes to mind when I say the name Michael

(01:32:13):
Porter junior?

Speaker 5 (01:32:14):
Injuries? All Right, it's a very tough start to his
career with regard to injuries.

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
Yeah, it hadn't been great, and I admit that, but
I will say this when he has been healthy, and
this was obviously more prevalent when he was on a
a winning team and be in the Western Conference, so
you saw him more. He was a thrown in the
rocket side. I can tell you that much when he
was out the floor.

Speaker 6 (01:32:40):
Deserves praise and I gave it to him at the time,
and we'll give it to him again here. He was
not healthy in the postseason last year and he was
everything he could give that team he gave him and
they said, we really appreciate that. Now go to Brooklyn.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
That's exactly what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:32:56):
Why, I mean, I don't I can't argue with it
from Denver side because they haven't even skipped a beat.

Speaker 5 (01:33:02):
In fact, they looked better, and the player they got
for him hasn't done a thing. I know. That's the
crazy part. Maybe it was, uh it was addition by subtraction,
I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (01:33:11):
Okay, Porter Junior has played really really well of late
for the Brooklyn Nets, not in wins, but really really well.

Speaker 4 (01:33:19):
Nonetheless, Yes, so when he made the following comments probably
cost some people's attention.

Speaker 5 (01:33:27):
I'm just gonna read it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
He says he wants people to stop comparing WNBA players
to men, and he claims he would have dominated the
WNBA as an eighth grader And what were you doing
in eighth grade.

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
I was playing basketball. It was only the eighth grade team.
Could you have dominated WNBA players?

Speaker 6 (01:33:48):
Uh No, I probably probably would have been. I definitely
would have been one of the shortest players even in
the w This is a quote.

Speaker 4 (01:33:58):
I'm probably going with eighth grade because I have real
experience doing this. I played my sisters. They played at
the University of Missouri, and I was still a young kid.
They had me playing on the scout team, and they
had a few WNBA players on their team, like Sophie
Cunningham and a couple others. I was in the seventh
or eighth grade going crazy. So I have real life experience.

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It's just a difference, and I wish this would stop
being a conversation because it should be common sense. I
appreciate common sense. I feel sometimes that's lost a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:34:30):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:34:31):
First things first, he's going to get blowback simply because
all of the WNBA, you know, centric fans, they're just
going to immediately go to he's being sexist, he's being this,
he's being that. But hold on a second, he's not
whether you agree with his statement from the standpoint of

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it would be true or not. He's not just saying
something willy nilly. He's like, I have real life experience
with this University of Missouri basketball women's basketball team. That's
not a run of the mill program. And if he
was in eighth grade, seventh or eighth grade, now he says,
going crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 4 (01:35:11):
But if he was going up against actual WNBA players
on the scout team, that led him to say something
like this, who are we to.

Speaker 5 (01:35:20):
Argue with that? By the way, may I'll argue with him?

Speaker 6 (01:35:23):
Okay, So this is the same thing when Reed Shepherd
or Cam Whitmore goes to the G League, it's the
same thing. Well, of course he dominates. Well, the sky
Force have a couple of NBA players. Honest, some of
these guys have had a cup of coffee. That's what
he's comparing the Missouri team to. They didn't have five
WNBA players on it, or nine or eleven. A WNBA

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team has eleven players that are WNBA players on it.
Not a college basketball team, and they're good, but they're
nothing special. They're a good college basketball outfit. They had
some talented players. I don't even know why we're entertaining this.
First of all, there's nothing sexist about facts or the obvious.
Why don't like the Olympics? To me, are the easiest

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way to help people that are still confused by this.

Speaker 5 (01:36:09):
Yeah, no, that's a good that's a good point.

Speaker 6 (01:36:11):
Let's let's run one hundred meters. We don't have this
wonder who's faster. There is a woman who can beat
a man. The fastest woman in the world would run
circles around me. But let's compare apples to apples. Yeah,
let's take the fastest man, and let's take the fastest woman.
Let's take the best NBA players. Let's take the best
w NBA players. There's no discussion necessary, there's no debate necessary.

(01:36:35):
This is not a racist, I mean sexism in any way.
It's just a fact. And WNBA players wouldn't argue about that.
An NBA players wouldn't argue about that. The only time
it becomes a debate is when we try to see
how low level a man player male player could be
to claim they could still beat a w NBA team,

(01:36:55):
a good college team, an AAU team, a great high
school team, a bad high school team, a rec league team. Well, look,
the Sparks were just in town. We saw them on
our practice court. They had a bunch of men practicing
against a bunch of weekend warrior types.

Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
Okay, so what I do want I don't know the
context of how this conversation came up. I do know that,
and I'm not again, I'm not assuming this is why
Michael Porter Junior brought this up. But of late, especially
this last season, I would see this all the time,
WNBA players complaining that they're not paid as much as

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the men.

Speaker 5 (01:37:33):
Totally different conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
Well, but again, that would be if if Michael Porter
Junior is saying stop comparing WNBA players to men, and
that's why he was making that statement initially, then I
would understand where he was coming from at least.

Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
But he didn't say.

Speaker 6 (01:37:50):
I mean, I don't know either, I don't know. All
he talked about was bouncing the ball and putting into
the basket. He didn't say anything about how much money
they shouldn't be making. Yeah, yeah, and it's still it's
about entertainment. Is the w NBA product entertaining enough for
people to pay money to go to the arena and
support the television deals they want, then that's all there
is to it.

Speaker 5 (01:38:10):
It doesn't have.

Speaker 6 (01:38:10):
To be better than the w than the NBA. It's
not necessarily really competing with the NBA. It's a it's
just not They're two different entertainment options that occur usually
at different times to begin with, when their seasons are.

Speaker 5 (01:38:25):
Yes, but I would say because leading the WNBA right now,
who's leading it? Nobody? They're not playing.

Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
Yeah, but I but you say that, and they are
two separate except for that one is facilitating.

Speaker 5 (01:38:36):
The other one's survival right now.

Speaker 6 (01:38:38):
Of course, I mean that's another reason why they aren't competing,
right the same group runs them.

Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
Yeah, and I will look, this is just because we're
on the subject of the w NBA, because Michael Porter
Jinga brought it up.

Speaker 5 (01:38:52):
Probably somebody brought it up to him.

Speaker 8 (01:38:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:38:56):
Again, this is from the Dunk Central, you know, NBA
Central on on on X. It's it's a standalone quote.
It's not given with context admittedly by because I'm not
going to go listen to Lonzo and Jello balls whole pipe.

Speaker 6 (01:39:10):
Well, I will say, like I told you a minute ago,
I did play high school basket or middle school basketball
through the eighth grade. So if I want to compare,
if I want to look at the.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
You definitely led the team in assists, There's no doubt
about it. You were dropping dimes. I was dropping dimes.

Speaker 6 (01:39:25):
I think there is a zero point zero percent chance
that eighth grade team that had nobody as good as
Michael Porter Junior on it not even close. And even
if they did, unless he scored one hundred percent of
the points, they're gonna get slaughtered by a w NBA
team slaughter.

Speaker 4 (01:39:43):
It is an interesting question, though, what point does it
get to the point where it's competitive.

Speaker 6 (01:39:47):
Now a ninth grade team, Wait, it's silly, I mean why.
I mean, I know there's people that actually want to
see it. They want to see this. It's I don't
know who gains from it, but I do think there
are people. I mean, obviously we know one of them,
at least Clay Travis because he's talked about it so much.

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
You know, let's put this game on.

Speaker 6 (01:40:05):
I'm happy to do this, and there's nothing to be
gained from the other side because they're not really the
ones promoting the argument.

Speaker 5 (01:40:11):
They're accepting the argument.

Speaker 4 (01:40:12):
I will put up ten million of my money, you
put up ten million of your money.

Speaker 6 (01:40:18):
Like it's who did this came from a male player
like w NBA players will react to this, but they're
not usually the ones coming out and saying, oh, we
would beat them, and you will play this and we'll
be They're reacting to somebody else saying they're no good,
we would beat them, and we're eighteen year old guys.

Speaker 5 (01:40:36):
This is what got under Draymond's skin.

Speaker 6 (01:40:38):
Well, that was specific to how he plays basketball. He's
a low percentage shooter and grabs a bunch of his
rebounds bounds because you're getting all of your misses. If
I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong. Did she
not smartly hit up the patent office to patent that
term me bounds?

Speaker 4 (01:40:58):
She may have. I do you know that there was
a running or trademark excuse me, trademark that term.

Speaker 5 (01:41:04):
There was a very reliable bet going for several games
there where she would absolutely miss her first shot and
you could get money on it. So she was Emmanuel
Classe of the w I don't know if she was
throwing these shots, but.

Speaker 6 (01:41:21):
That's why you really shouldn't offer those wagers, because if
I told you today that she was throwing them, you
would say, my god, I had no idea.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
That's so mean Ah, you didn't mean to even be
that mean. I don't think, Well, a major league baseball
pitcher just did it.

Speaker 5 (01:41:43):
We didn't know.

Speaker 4 (01:41:45):
I think there's a lot to be said for us
not knowing how the sausage is made in a lot
of different ways in these games, in these leagues, And
I'll just leave it at that. We got Andrew Whitworth
coming up next on Sports seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:42:04):
All right, back at it here on the A team.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
It's Sports Talk seven ninety Space City Home Network. He's
Adam Wexler, I'm Adam Clanton and Andrew Whitworth joining us
here on the show as promise from NFL on Prime Video. Andrew,
we just enjoyed talking to you the last time so much,
which you probably don't remember, but we do that we
had to get you back on for the epic Davis

(01:42:26):
Mills and Josh Allen matchup going down tomorrow night here
in Houston. In all seriousness, Davis Mills has played, you know,
admirably in CJ. Stroud's absence, But this is a whole
new ball game, and as the Texans are fighting for
their playoff lives, it's it's gonna be a lot on
the shoulders of this young quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
No doubt.

Speaker 8 (01:42:48):
Well, man, guys, I appreciate you guys having me back.
First off, Adam and Adam, what's going on? Yay. Look,
I'm happy to be here and down here in Houston,
so I feel a little close to home here from
northwoy Inanda. But I'm time about this game. Man. You know,
when when Buffalo's on the field of and offense and
then needs some defense, I'm going to freaking you ring Fine,
you can find to watch East to go at it.

(01:43:08):
And you know, for the Texan on offense, it's really
going to be about, you know, rid of that opportunity
you can run the football, can establish some version up
front of getting going. I mean, I know there wasn't
a huge part last week of the win, but you
know in this week it's gonna matter a lot. This
is the Buffalo defense has been struggling in a run
game and they helped Davison middle it out some and
get something established. Now you know another new oder line

(01:43:30):
group that they had last week, and can we start
to build some momdum.

Speaker 6 (01:43:34):
Well that's your wheelhouse, so I'll stick right there. What
do you think about trying to make it work on it.
This will probably be the third different offensive line group
that they will have started for Davis Mills three starts
and in general, what do you think of the group
that the Texans have upfront?

Speaker 8 (01:43:49):
Yeah, I think it's really been something where you can
tell as an offense and really is this group as
it's been changing and really you haven't had as much
consistency as you'd want week in and week out with
who's in there. That's a real challenge because that group
is so built on your ability to work together. Richard
Sherman and I talk about all the time in the
secondary and then the offensive line, it's so much having

(01:44:09):
a feel for one another and understanding of how each
other does everything, and a lot of those things aren't
communicated in a game. There's something you've just spent so
much time doing together. You know each other so well
that you play off of one another. And I think
that's the real challenging part when you're talking about switching groups,
but also just your new offensive cornertor Nikayley and this
year trying to figure out, you know, what does this

(01:44:30):
group do well? You don't know that until you get
out on the field and you get in a real
football game and you line up and you say, hey,
what are the runs that we want to commit to?
What is the style the concepts or we had gap
scheme or we had zone scheme. You know, how do
we want to run the football? And then how do
we build play actions and marry all that together? And
that's really the challenge when you don't know who you're
going to have upfront some weeks, and then also when

(01:44:51):
you've kind of had some injuries and then now here
we are, you know, another week where we're kind of
a new group. You know, in a short week, it's like,
all right, now, let's go off of what we saw
on Sunday we liked, and then build a plan that's
probably not too complex, but something we feel like we
can get done against a Buffalo defense that's struggling to
stop the run.

Speaker 6 (01:45:07):
I don't have much doubt, as you said that you
talk football with Sherman, probably do the same with Tony.
I'm really not sure what you talk about with FITZI
we had him down here and he's obviously a great guy,
and I just know that, you know, you get in
a conversation with him or you're on air with him,
and who knows what he might say, might end up
having a conversation about tuddy buddies. But how much fun
are you having with this group on set?

Speaker 8 (01:45:28):
Man, It's unbelievable. It's It's honestly been one of the
most fun things I've ever got to do in my life.
I mean, I don't know if I knew when I
got done playing that I'd have this much fun. I
kind of you know, no idea who you're gonna be
or what you're gonna do when you leave the football field,
and man that every week to have the opportunity to
spend it with this crew, even and not just all
of us are on the desk, but even people behind

(01:45:49):
the camera and just a part of our team at Amazon,
it's been an absolute blast. We are a real family,
and we spend a lot of quality time together, which
means we probably shut down most hotel bars every week
and you know, sometimes begging to stay open a little
past their hours. So we push the limits. But you know,
we have We have a good time, and we enjoy
being around each other. And I think, you know, most

(01:46:10):
of feedback we get is that people feel like they
can they can feel that when they watch us, that
we actually truly care about one another.

Speaker 5 (01:46:17):
I didn't know Carissa was such a carouser at the bar.

Speaker 8 (01:46:21):
Oh my god. I mean, listen turn fitz Or. You know,
they're they're both just fighting for attention. You know, they're
both fits. Is always entertaining and then being him and
and Carissa, you know she likes to have a good time,
that's for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:46:35):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:46:36):
In all seriousness, I've actually now that we've got you
on here and you're talking about you guys and the camaraderie.
I wanted to ask you this because as we both
have a little bit of background and TV. You know,
the promo shoot you guys had where you're all dancing
on stage and there's like one hundred extras. Was that
as awkward as it feels like it would be to
shoot something like that when you're doing those promotional shoots.

Speaker 8 (01:46:59):
You know what, The actual part on stage with Shaboozie
was not as awkward because we were really playing the music,
so that wasn't as hard. Now, it is awkward because
there's a bunch of people just looking at you and
you're dancing on a stage, But harder was actually all
the little parts you see where us, you know, doing
the it's on and talking about Thursday night football, you
know where we're by ourselves because that's actually done obviously,

(01:47:21):
as you can imagine, since there's audio without music, so
you're like pretending there's music and trying to be in
the vibe and also do it like that. That was
actually more challenging, a little more awkward, but it was
a lot of fun. Again. That's another thing. Like man, dude,
I lined up in front of people and tried not
to let them run through my face and try to
move grown men from one place to another. For sixteen years,

(01:47:43):
I never had a thought I'd be on a Shaboozi
promo shoot set, you know, trying to dance and figure out,
you know, the vibe there. So it's been a blast.
There's been things I never would imagine myself doing in
my life. My kids get a good laugh out of it.
Of Dad is totally sold out into being an entertainer,
and we have a good time.

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
Real quickly, as as we get into the latter stages
of the college football season, I have to ask you,
Brian Kelly out Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 6 (01:48:14):
In Yeah, I got mister Louisiana here with us, mister lsu,
Why why don't we get some What do you think
about all this?

Speaker 8 (01:48:22):
Man, It's crazy, you know, it's a wild change really fast.
I got a chance we did New England last last
week and I got a chance to talk to Will Campbell,
you know obviously was there just you know, last year,
and just kind of you know, even for him, it's
just like, man, what a wild change all of a sudden.
And you know, listen that place, there's an established standard
we have and you know, I think I think myself,

(01:48:42):
I have a lot of proud in that because I
was Nick Saban's first recruiting class there and you know,
we went on to win a national championship. And you
look what's happened the last twenty five years. I think
LS used football history of who they were before Nick
Saban and our class was there and who they are
to this day over the last twenty or five years
is and I think it's like twice as many average
wins and significant difference and what the standard is. And

(01:49:05):
the standard is you come here and you win championships
and if you're not winning them, you're competing for them.
And I think that's what the leason of people want,
and that's what the expectation level is. Man. So there's
a lot of pressure in that position. So unfortunately didn't
feel like they were getting it out of Brian Kelly.
And now we're moving on. So is it gonna be
Lane Kiffin or not? Come on, Lane, make a decision,
baby only. I'm sitting here over them. I'm worried about myself.

(01:49:26):
I know as much as you guys. All right, I
find out more for my wife. It sends me something
she saw on X or social media or whatever. So
you guys know something, you'll fill me in.

Speaker 4 (01:49:36):
Andrew Whitworth recruiting Lane Kiffin on live radio.

Speaker 5 (01:49:40):
We really enjoy that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:41):
Hey, Andrew, we know you're busy. We appreciate you taking
the time out. Thanks again so much. Let's catch up
again soon. And by the way, send our best to
Amy Pallisick for taking care of us and booking this interview.
We are big fans of hers and she set this
up and we're we'd like to say thanks via you.
If that's okay, I will definitely make sure of it.

Speaker 8 (01:49:59):
Listen. Amy's the absolute best. She's a part of that
Amazon team that I said is so special, you know,
on and off the camera. That makes it very unique
and something we're really proud of.

Speaker 5 (01:50:08):
Good stuff, Andrew, We appreciate it. We'll we'll catch up
again soon in joy our city.

Speaker 8 (01:50:13):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:50:13):
Man, have a great all right, Andrew.

Speaker 4 (01:50:15):
Whitworth of Amazon Prime, NFL on Prime here on Sports
Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:50:20):
We will react to that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:21):
We will wind things down, get you ready for some
Rockets coverage at the top of the hour and if you.

Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
Give away some tickets when we return.

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:50:39):
I love Andrew Whitworth.

Speaker 6 (01:50:41):
A couple of years at LSU with Nick Saban, National
title final year with Less Miles, and then Andrew Whitworth
went on to that sixteen year NFL career that he mentioned.
He did it right, retiring on top with the twenty
twenty one Super Bowl champion Rams.

Speaker 4 (01:51:00):
Do you think that he was one of the players
that Les Miles was talking about giving a big fat
kiss on the lips too, which is one of the
greatest of all time.

Speaker 5 (01:51:09):
I mean, for the quality of player that he was.

Speaker 6 (01:51:12):
Yes, For the amount of whether their relationship might have
been one year together, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:51:16):
I mean, we just interviewed him for another segment or
so on.

Speaker 6 (01:51:19):
I would yeah, I understand that now he had a
he's a great guy, he's a great fit on their set,
and they do. I think they have the you never
know what you're going to do. And we're watching the
NBA build new studio shows. We've obviously seen Inside the NBA.
We've got the two shows normally throughout the season on
CBS and Fox leading into NFL games NFL Countdown. It's

(01:51:39):
hard to get the right group together, that fits together,
that gives you what you want. The same thing we
say about the play by play guys and the analysts
and the booth just show us that you like what
you're doing, just you're having fun with it. And they
also have the they have kind of the inside the NBA.
I think benefit of it in that they're on so

(01:52:01):
much after the game. It's like just an extension of
the fun. They're also on site, they're on set, they're
bringing the stars of the game on set, and because.

Speaker 4 (01:52:09):
Then they're closing down Hotel Ballar. I was gonna get
to the shirtless question, but they do all that before
they get to the bar. You know, Fitzi's taking a
shirt like I'll do this as well. It's just it's
fun and it's football, that's what it's supposed to be.
So I am hopeful before we get to our ticket
giveaway here, Texans twenty seven Bill's twenty one, two hundred

(01:52:31):
and forty five yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions for Davis Mills.
You really believe that Will Anderson has another sack and
helps turn them turn them over. So Will Anderson and
Davis Mills join the crew on set, and Mills is
sitting next to Fitzie, you know, quarterback quarterback, and Mills
gets animated.

Speaker 5 (01:52:49):
Since quarterback and texts fired.

Speaker 6 (01:52:51):
Up, gets into it, and Fitzie and he are the
two shirtless ones when they when they go to break.

Speaker 4 (01:52:57):
If Davis Mills, because again this will all be contingent
upon the Texans winning.

Speaker 5 (01:53:03):
That's why I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
Yeah, if Davis Mills leads the Texans to victory and
then takes his shirt off with Fitzie on live television,
I will take my shirt off on this show on camera.

Speaker 6 (01:53:14):
More likely to happen Texans win and Mills plays well,
or he takes his shirt off in postgame on set.

Speaker 5 (01:53:20):
I mean the first one is much more likely to happen.
I just laid out the scenario though. If it all happens,
I'll do it all right.

Speaker 6 (01:53:26):
We got tickets to give away for you here and
we'll get back to reality as we have throughout the week.
Pair of tickets go see the Cougars and Florida State.
It's part of the Houston Hoops Showdown. They're Toyota Center
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We also have a pair of tickets to the Monster

(01:53:47):
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They are on sale now for that event. So call
us up seven one three two one seven ninety. You
know the answer to this question about something we just
talked about earlier this hour, We had the always important
well this group of players could beat a w NBA team.

Speaker 5 (01:54:09):
We had that conversation earlier.

Speaker 6 (01:54:11):
What current NBA player said, Uh, he practiced against a
college basketball team while he was in eighth grade and
felt like as he was what did he say, balling, cooking?

Speaker 8 (01:54:21):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:54:23):
What did he? I just had it in front of me.
Hold on, I went away.

Speaker 6 (01:54:26):
I'll figure it out what NBA current NBA player said
he as an eighth grader could have beaten a WNBA team.

Speaker 5 (01:54:34):
He was going crazy. He's going crazy. That was the terminal.
He's obviously in the NBA now, so he's very good.

Speaker 6 (01:54:40):
I'm not sure under what context he was putting the
game together, but to what NBA player was having this conversation,
Uh don't know what about why came up, but it's
just the latest in that conversation that probably needs to
go away. What NBA players said that that we talked
about this hour. Have you ever one, three, two, five,
seven ninety for those tickets? And the answer to this
question is yes, because you're you. Have you seen the

(01:55:02):
lineup for tonight? Jabari is in it. That's good and
it is big. The Rockets starting lineup? Did he may
give it already? H yes, Well Steven Adams is starting,
so Jared Allen and Evan Mobley start for the Calves.
So that makes sense. Well, I would assume that just
means a Kogi out and Adams in. I would imagine

(01:55:22):
I believe that is the case. And of course as
soon as I say this, I've also lost that tweet
on my page. Well, Kevin Durant, Jabari Smith Junior, Steven
Adams and Alpi, if you're telling me they're going makes sense.
But yeah, I I do like Joshua Koge starting, and
I actually would like that tonight because of him being

(01:55:44):
the other body that gives quality minutes against Donovan Mitchell.
I usually think the more you throw at him, the
better off you will be. And Durant will take some time,
a man will take some time. A Koge will come
off the bench and take some time. But again, if
he's not starting, then that will be the only way
he can do it the bench.

Speaker 4 (01:56:00):
Have I told you real quick? The So you remember
last year I did a one eighty on Tyrese Halliburton.

Speaker 5 (01:56:07):
I was not a fan.

Speaker 4 (01:56:09):
He rubbed me the wrong way and then I just
I think something happened, switch flipped whatever. I used to
be that way with another player, and he's already beaten
the Rockets this year. So there's your hint. I'm coming
around on a guy and he just did an interview
with Kevin Durant. That's your big hint.

Speaker 5 (01:56:28):
A player just did an interview with him. He's not
on the Pistons. He is on the Pistons. What Pistons
player is holding a microphone interviewing Kevin Durant.

Speaker 4 (01:56:36):
No, Kevin Durant actually interviewed him on a podcast. There
you go, Okay, Shoe revealed that he was going to
get a signature shoe. He was first of all when
they came to town and beat the brakes off the Rockets.
Not really like by the scoreboard, but they they pushed
him around, and not a lot of teams come in
here and do that, push.

Speaker 5 (01:56:57):
Them around right to the locker room when they got
ejected that it was different. Jalen Durnam was being a turd.
That's different. If they beat the Rockets by four points,
you were the worst.

Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
But he was like uber complimentary of everybody on the
Rockets roster after the game. And I'm talking like not
just like if you watch that interview, go back. He's
sitting down in the postgame locker room. He is not
coach speak. He's not short answer guy. He is a
very thoughtful NBA player.

Speaker 5 (01:57:27):
You can.

Speaker 4 (01:57:27):
He's very very intelligent. He watches the game like he's
a student of the game. That's how he knows what
he was saying. And yeah, he was I like Cade
Cunningham a lot. I'm gonna really hate it if the
Rockets and the Pistons get to the finals.

Speaker 6 (01:57:42):
I think what you saw in Game two, this home
opener for the Rockets, and the respect you're talking about
that's built over the years that he and the Rockets,
the Pistons in the Rockets, he and Jalen Green, I
should say, and then the Pistons and the Rockets, I
felt like they had beef though, well they they have
beef on the court because they're the same. They're the
same in how they play bully ball. They're the same

(01:58:03):
and where they came from, Disasterville. The Pistons worst out
fit in the East, the Rockets worst out fit in
the West. Yeah, and at the same you got the
number one pick, we have the number two pick. They
obviously had a little bit together. I mean, honestly, the
only highlight we have between the two of them is
Jalen dunking on him put their games last year, a
one on one ninety nine game here in Houston last year,

(01:58:24):
the game we just saw. I think if they were
in the same conference, the NBA rivalry the league loves
the most.

Speaker 4 (01:58:33):
Yeah, because right now you have one game between the
Rockets and the Thunder this year of this, you know
this entity of the Rockets. If you get anything close
to that and the next time those two teams play,
then maybe you could start having the league talk that way.

Speaker 5 (01:58:48):
But you're right.

Speaker 4 (01:58:48):
As far as mirror images of each other, that's the Pistons.
We'll dive more into it.

Speaker 6 (01:58:52):
I will talk more about the big lineup that the
Rockets are in fact starting tonight. As we get you
inside Rockets gap down, Rockets launch had a launch bad
first countdown, next and then basketball between the Calves and
the Rockets. Rockets at nine and three, Calves at ten
and five. We are back at two tomorrow

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
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