Texans Stand Pat On Deadline Day, Dana Brown Talks Bregman Future and Say What?!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Talking Your Teams
series Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler, or the A Team A.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
New Star time, same show.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
It is the A Team Sports Talk seven ninety Tuesday
Election Day edition of the program wex How many times
will I do an impression of one or both of
the candidates between now and six o'clock?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
You don't need to say or both. You don't do
an impression of the other candidates. So I'll say the
one candidate you do do impressions of will probably show
up here. See not an impression that is two?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Uh no, no, not a good one.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
I mean it is it's very Uh I knew who
it was.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Let's put it that way.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah, there's two candidates. It's the other one. I do
know who that is. I know I know who that is.
Actually there are four candidates.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
If I'm not mistaken, the write ends hello, I would
write you in.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
The fifth spot is available to you if you want
to write one in.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Would you have me as your VP?

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Well I would have to vet you, of course, yeah,
but you have me for almost six years. What is
it that I bring to the table as your candidate
that I lack that you would then bring to the
table to make the ticket strong.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
It needs Jerick emotional reactions.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
And whereas if I were the president and you are
the VP, the obvious thing that you would bring to
the table that I lack is spreadsheets.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
We got a lot of things to discuss today, and
as you mentioned, the A team is here with you
a little bit earlier than usual. Obviously the show before
us was there even significantly earlier than usual, bumped up
two hours there, we're bumped up one hour here, and
now we're with you for four hours.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, we are looking forward to it. It's going to
be a little different and then it'll pretty much be
the same from three to six. But yeah, we are
looking forward to the new day part if you will,
even though it's basically the same one and bringing you
just an addition, know hour of content and everything else
that we bring it to the table. And yes, Space
City Home Network simulcast will still be going on, but

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it will remain at three.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
To six for the time being.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
So if you're wanting to watch us right now, you've
got to wait a little bit longer, but you can
absolutely listen to all four hours right here on Sports.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Talk seven ninety all right.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
The question I had going into today, which is of
course the NFL trade deadline, was how long can we
wait to eviscerate Nick Cassario?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Because I answered it when it's right there on the dock.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh, I see that.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Okay, it's an hour. Wind line is at three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Why do we have to wait an hour?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Though? If what are you going to eviscerate him for?
If you don't know what he hasn't done?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Reports? Reports, you know the ones I.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Mean, I give me the report you're talking.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
About, Well, Jonathan Alexander, who was going.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
To join us four o'clock. Yeah, So I'm not going
to sit here and rip it to shred.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
He's either going to look like a prophet or he's
gonna get He's gonna get ripped to shred's.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
This is the type of situation where my information, my
sources are rock solid. But it doesn't mean it can't change.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
But here's the thing. If it can change, then why even.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
I'm not gonna eviscerate him for today. I just don't
think they've done much for multiple days, multiple weeks, and
multiple months to accommodate for what clearly was the one
area of the team they decided. I mean seriously, they
spent an offseason after going to the playoffs, winning a
game and losing a game, after drafting the way they did,
after putting this whole culture together, and said, man, we

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got to get better on the d line. We better
add some players. We got to get better at linebacker.
We better add some players. We need to get better
in the secondary. We need to add some players. I
think we could get better at wide receiver. We need
to add a player. I'd be nice if we got
better at tight end. We should probably add a player.
I think maybe we'd be better off at running back
if we added a player and they added a player,

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we can draft a reserve offensive lineman. But otherwise we
are good to go. I'm not even joking, and that
is literally what happened this offseason. Wells that are starting
for this team and making a difference for this team, and.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
They're all correct. They're all good.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Las Year and Bullock starting added them in the off season.
Hunter and Alsheer added them in the off season starting.
They're excellent. Every defensive tackle other than Khalil Davis and
Kurt Heinisch added and they're excellent. Joe Mixon excellent, Kate Stover,
he's your second tight end. He's been fine. Stefan Diggs
before his season ended, excellent. They had an unbelievably successful

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offseason while completely neglecting one area of the team which they,
for some reason thought would be okay because it was
okay a year ago, and they thought okay for.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
A team clearly going.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
For it was good enough to go for it by
not attempting to make it better in any way. I'm
not even saying anything negative about Blake Fisher, but from
the moment that card was handed in, he was never
expected to in packed the twenty twenty four Texans and
he hasn't. So doesn't mean he's not a good player,
and it wasn't even a good pick to make. But

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if you're gonna do nothing at that position, well that's
that's an idea, that's a path to take.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
That's that's certainly a choice. Okay, here's a couple things.
One just based off what you just got done. Saying
he was a second rounder, correct, So if you're not,
and every draft is different, but if he were, say
a first rounder, you would look at him completely.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Different, especially at that position. Than you would.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yes, so would they. He'd be playing right, which is stupid.
Either he's good or he isn't. Either he can help
you or he can't. But they actually drafted a player
at the two positions. They were already good at right.
They're not good at guard on the right side, they're
not good at guard on the left side, and they're
not good in the middle. I didn't do anything to
make those positions better except bring back the entire group

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that was doing it last year. And they probably will
make changes into this game. They clearly have to because
of Kenyan Green's situation. Patterson situation, hopeful is one that
allows him to be that.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Change this week.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
And again I'm not even down on Jews scrugs per se,
but I can't ignore what's happening this year. You know,
his third season next year, there shouldn't be any issues
with him. His first season was kind of an injury season.
He also didn't play center very much in his rookie season,
and now he is the center. I don't think they'll
have an issue with him moving forward. They clearly have

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an issue with him now. It's kind of being hidden
because the two issues on his right shoulder and left
shoulder are so. And I am including Shaq Mason. I
am including him. I'm not sure why. I am sure
why other people aren't. Because the other guy's worse. That's
the only reason he'd be getting killed otherwise. Like when
you go in and say, man, I just I'm just
not feeling good about my performance. I just I dropped

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too many passes today. I just do a good job.
I'm one of the whiteouts that they count on. And
you look at the locker next year, you're like, thank god,
that guy dropped six passes. I mean to me, that
is what's going on out there. Mason just has a
track record. He also clearly has history with your general manager,
which is the whole reason he traded for him, and
then re upped with him after trading for him a

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year later, and again with fifty two minutes to go
to the deadline. You can't ignore it. They're ignoring it
internally as they watch everybody else around them do something.
Amari Cooper was a Cowboy when the year started. Now
he's playing for the team that's got a better record
than you in your conference. DeAndre Hopkins was a Titan
when the season began. How he's playing for a team

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better than you in the standings and just came off
a fantastic performance last night, which is so obvious and
easy to see coming that he still can help that
team tremendously. It's not even the only move that they made.
And you look at Cincinnati now trying to give Chase
Brown some help in the backfield with Herbert coming in
and on down the list of all the AFC contenders. Obviously,

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the Ravens made a move with the Deontay Johnson. There
are other moves that still could be made. I'm not
really sure that it's in their best interests to take
one of their seasons with CJ and scream at us,
we're going all in until we're not. They went all
in this offseason with all of their moves except for
that group, and they maintain it by continuing to not

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go all in at that position, which is understandably difficult.
I don't think it's as easy as picking up the
phone and finding a player that can play. I'm not
even expecting some game changing acquisition on the offensive line,
but I am expecting someone to be added to this
team to say, here's some accountability for the players that

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are out there.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I mean Kenyan Green.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Took eight weeks before there was even a benching, which
got lifted one series later. Nobody else has been taken
out of the lineup for performance, and at the offensive line,
you're running risks. By doing that, you're maybe exposing your
quarterback to more issues. Hard to believe there'd be more
issues than what they have, but that's where they sit.

(08:54):
I would have thought that he would be extremely intent
on making a deal, and again have to be today.
It could have been a week ago, it could have
been two weeks ago, it could have been a month ago.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
And I think because of the offseason and the way
it unfolded that we talked about ad nauseum, I think
if he doesn't today, that is absolutely a reason, because
then you're just I don't well, put it this way,
he will not have done it because there wasn't something
out there. In all likelihood, there's always somebody that you

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can move. There's always somebody that could be on the move.
So it's not it's just basically you saying no, I
don't think we need to do anything for whatever reason.
And I just don't think that's going to be an
easy pill to swallow for this fan base, especially when
they see CJ. Stroud get beat up this past week
in the New York game and what's probably on tap
for him against Detroit on Sunday night, and moving forward,

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it's Detroit's hardly the only defense.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's going to try Pennant Tiers back and get after him.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
I mentioned Detroit just added an edge rusher today that
surely will be ready to play on Sunday. I don't
think we mentioned that in the first ten minutes and
fifty one seconds. We probably should have.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
That's a good time to do it after everything has
just been said. I mean again, I just don't know
what you think is going to happen. Do you think
something magic? You think there's a wand you can wave
over this offensive line. You think the fact that Green
is now on the shelf is going to just automatically improve.
I just I don't know. I don't get it. And
I think it's okay to be like this.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
I don't think it's coming off as oh my gosh,
this is just a fanboy knee jerk reaction, Like this.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Is knee jerk.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
It's been a month of this.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well it'sj but CJ shroud, Like, if you don't protect CJ,
what's the point. It's it's like taking the engine out
of a Ferrari. It looks good, but it's not going
to do anything unless the engine's there. And it's just
how I feel they're treating it. So we will discuss
this and a whole lot more as we continue here
on a Tuesday edition of the program.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
The Aight on Sports Talk seven ninety Adam Clinton, Adam Web.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
For it, the a team, welcome back into the program.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Probably should address the elephant in the room before we
go any further elephants.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
It is an elephant.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
We're not normally on at two o'clock, and there's a
reason why. There's a little bit of shuffling and in
the process of that, and you've probably read a little
bit about it if you've seen, like anything on the
internet with regards to our company. A lot of layoffs
going on around the country, and our good buddy who's
on with us every Monday and has been throughout the

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NFL season and was last season as well.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Stan Norfleet was.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
One of the guys that got caught up in that
and just wanted to say obviously that we wish him
the best, have reached out to him both privately and
publicly as we all have, and just a really good guy,
good dude, good guy to work with, and somebody I
enjoyed being around, which isn't always the case in this business,
but he's one of the good ones, and so obviously

(11:57):
with what's happened in the fallout, I wanted to wish
him the best from both of us.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Although I'm not going to speak for you, I'm just
doing my part.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, well now you just want me to say ditto,
But I also would share some personal thoughts that yeah,
I totally agree with that. It was awesome having him
on here with us. Was great going to games because
he was always sitting right next to me and we
were talking about everything that we saw there. So I
felt like I got to do a Sunday show. It
was just a private show for the two of us
and enlightening there and obviously on a personal level, just

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a really good person, really good addition to our station
and be a loss for us again for somebody else,
and hopefully his future is as bright as I would
assume it should be based on what he brought to
us here in Houston. On our station. So yes, definitely
wish the best to stand moving forward, and that is
the reason for the shuffle. Ten to noon is now

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eaten up by the Matt Thomas Show with the Ross
v Real. They go on until two. We pick things
up at two and take you on the rest of
your make your way home from work, whatever it.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Is you do in the afternoon.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
So three four hour programs here, the Shawn Salisbury Show,
the Matt Thomas Show with Ross Viral, and this program
the eight Team, and then into our evening broadcast which
normally will include Rockets basketball, Astros, baseball, other assorted college
activities with the Longhorns and the Tigers and their respective
coaches shows with that. And last night, for instance, even

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though it was a rare home seven forty five tip off, Coli,
I was in the summit, we had Rockets basketball for you,
and typical to this season for Houston, big lead, much
smaller lead late for one of the two teams, and
then the Rockets on the right end of it at
the end came up clutch in the fourth quarter. Again,
I don't think they're really doing anything wrong. The team

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that's in front, whether it's Houston or the other team
because it's happened both sides is the nature of the game.
It's become very very difficult with the way teams have
outfitted their groups. So many people can shoot. Now it's
worth three points. If you make a few mistakes, the
other team usually capitalizes and a twenty point lead becomes
an a point lead almost overnight. A thirty one point

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lead can be completely erased and then you can come
back and still beat them. But the Rockets took care
of the Knicks last night thanks to a fourth quarter
led early by Alprin Shangoon, probably his best game of
the season, even better than the game against Charlotte for
what he was doing in a win, and he did
carry things early in the fourth quarter. Jalen Green carried
things later in the fourth quarter two huge clutch shots

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and also had three assists. Also had three rebounds in
the fourth quarter. Notably on his end is he had
played quite poorly from a shooting perspective for the second
consecutive game, and yet it didn't bother him seemingly at
all when the fourth quarter rolled around, and he helped
to make sure that this one would push them back
over five hundred again.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Well let's talk about the fact that the guy that
Matt and I had a conversation with immediately after the
game played some sparse but significant second half minutes because
both in the third and fourth quarter, Reach Shepper was
on the floor for stretches was making things happen, both

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not just from a scoring standpoint, but also from a
distributing standpoint. And I'm telling you right now, and I
knew this would be the case, you know, when when
they drafted him and then we started seeing a little
bit of him in summer league, just to kind of
actually put your eyeballs on him against NBA competition. His defense,
especially for his size, is so underrated. And it's not

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that he's a scrappy guy, although he is. What I
mean by that is fundamentally and the way he you know,
moves his feet, the way his hands are active, just
his whole stance and where he puts himself on the
floor with regards to who he's trying to defend or
who he's trying to, you know, attempt to defend later

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on in the possession at times, really was on display
in those minutes last night. Again, he wasn't the biggest
catalyst for why they were able to pull out that
win over by the way, a beat up NIX team,
but it was it.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Was impressive to watch.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
And uh, I feel like, if he's doing this kind
of stuff early on, I like where this is headed
later on in his career, even in his rookie season.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Pardon my ignorance, what's wrong with the Knicks health wise?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Well, there was a couple of rotation guys and I
knew you were gonna ask me that as soon.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
As I may.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
I know Mitchell Robinson's not playing hold on second best
players are now.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Look, I'm not feeling sorry for them because they had
some major h Precis Sha chewas pretty good for them,
the rotation guy, and yeah, Mitchell Robinson was the other one.
But look, og Ananobi is a problem. We know what
Jalen Brunson can.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Do, not against him.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Men Well, okay, so that was how many possessions And
I'm not taking anything away from men Thompson, but Jalen
Brunson was awesome last night, like he always is.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
You made him work for it, shot a poor percentage
or poorer percentage than you like.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Especially is when you could see and look, they were
more well rested than the Rockets. Rockets played on on
Saturday night. They had played in Detroit on.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Friday, five extra minutes.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, well that's true for some of the people that
were out there, some of them fouled out, But yeah,
Jalen Brunson looked like he had dead legs in the
waning stages of the fourth quarter when shots that were
at times open weren't falling, and they were they just
he was nailing everything early on.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Huge surprise.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Rockets will have the Spurs coming up next to They've
got a Wednesday game with the Spurs, close out the
homestand with the Thunder, and that will do it for
their first handful of games, or close out the homestand
with San Antonio at the Thunder on Friday. First eight
games of the season kept them in the state of Texas,
and the best they can do now is five and three.
I don't think many people would have expected much more

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than that. Probably expected to win over Charlotte, but maybe
didn't expect one over Dallas. Maybe expected two to three
wins instead of sitting on one hoping to get two
wins against San Antonio. When all things considered, it's not
a bad place to be there's two teams in the
Western Conference that have gotten off to incredible starts, Phoenix
and Oakland City. I was mentioned they have Oklahoma City

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on Friday. Pretty Much everybody else's is kind of in
the same boat. Other than Utah got their first win
the other night. Everybody else is kind of in the
you know, five, four to three win range right now,
as you would expect. That's kind of the whole NBA.
But it's a lot better than starting two and five
and kind of putting yourselves at a bad position unnecessarily
before you ever even put a run together. It's obviously

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what they did a year ago, you know, putting together
a very very long winning streak later in the season
allowed them to stay in the race. I think starting
the way that hopefully they will continue will mean they
are in the race from day one. One day you
look at the standings, there a ninth. Another day they're
in sixth and to eighth, and to sixth, then to
ninth and to seventh. If they can stay in that
range throughout the year, hopefully health is on their side,

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then they can not only be a part of the
post eighty two game NBA season, but maybe not need
to play among the seven, eight, nine, ten teams when
they get to the postseason and maybe be top six.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
And just real quick, going back to last night's you
know rotation with the Knicks, and they played eight guys
and five of those played well, one of them played
thirty two. Everyone else played close to forty minutes. There's
only one guy off the bench that played more.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
No, do you want to tell me why, Like, it's
because their rotation is thin because they have injuries. Yeah,
that's wrong, that's not the reason. What's the reason. I'll
tell you the reason if you want me to tell you,
it's the reason for what the loss? No, the reason
they played all those minutes because they're the only good
players because Tom Thibodau is the head coach.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, then there's that too.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Oh, these guys are my best guys and we only
have seventy some odd games to go into the ground.
That's where I am going to run.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
You could you imagine being Karl Anthony Towns playing for
Tom Thibodeau in Minnesota and then you finally get your dream.
You're traded home to finish your career, presumably with the
New York Knicks. You're going to play your home games
at Madison Square Garden. But Tom Thibodau' is your coach again.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Well, apparently they're not handing Tibbs the box scores in
between quarters like they do for you and I, and
maybe he's not getting the analytics reports after the games.
It's not even really that deep of a statistic. It's
you kept tracked by pretty much everybody. Now you know
they're plus minus. Like, go, look at his.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Numbers minus twenty six last night. That's the other number.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
His personal numbers from a scoring not bad, from an
effective and efficient standpoint, not bad. Rebounding totals not bad
last night. But yeah, he's a twenty six because, unlike
most of Tibbs's favorite players, because I don't know that
he'll ever be one, they play defense, and he, for

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as tall as he is and for as many block
shots as he still probably will have, you want to
take advantage of that. And the Rockets said, to their
least effective player so far this year, we're going to
all game long. And it worked out, brilliantly worked him
over and let's give credit where it's due. On the
other end, I know he scored seventeen points, but that's

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really not great for him. He did grab nineteen rebounds.
But Karl Anthony Towns got.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Beat up on almost exclusively last night when he was
in the game by Dylan Brooks, and it was a
sight to behold because he absolutely eclipses Dylan. He is
twice the size of Dylan Brooks. He's a large human
being anyways. But Dylan, I mean, he made him work
for everything he got last night, especially from a scoring standpoint.
And I don't have any complaints about the job that

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Dylan Brooks did on him last night.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, he did the same thing when you know, some
people were talking to Steven Adams after his debut game
against the Spurs practice the next day. You know, it
was like coming back and the guy you're, you know,
on the other side is Victor wemban Yama, and he said, well,
I barely defended him, which was accurate.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
He was out.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
He was the same way because smartly, the Rockets are like,
why don't we just put strong Dylan Brooks on weak
Victor wemban Yama, And it moved him around. It just
he can't back. He'd like to back him in, he can't.
He can't, so he could shoot over him and he
could rebound over him and he's still gonna get his just
not the way that the Spurs would want it. It
worked out well and you were able to do the

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same thing. Karl Anthony Towns never really tried to take
him outside and shoot on him, because a perimeter player
usually can help prevent that. But he also never took
him inside overly to take advantage of that. It's good
for the Rockets in a number of ways. Keeps Alpi
out of foul trouble, it keeps them free to do
the things they want to do, and actually should help

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them run a little bit. Really, their defense was excellent,
holding in the next to ninety seven points and making
them work for everything they got even while they came back.
That was a nice win for the Rockets. Nicks will
be a good team. Nick will probably be in the
top half of the Eastern Conference when it's all said
and done four or five six months from now, when
we get into that part of the season. Another segment
gone through, and another fifteen minutes without a trade from

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the Texans. I'm not saying there wasn't a trade made
in the last to fifteen minutes, because there was. So again,
we'll keep you updated on what the teams that are
going for it are trying to do here at this
point in the season, we will await word on if
the Texans are in that group or not as we
continue here on the eighteen.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
Eight.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
Continue.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
We are now less than a half hour from the
NFL's trade deadline. Texans have not made a deal, but.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
At the deadline they've made a deal. But that was
just to get rid of a player that would have
played last week and ended up playing for somebody else
last week and helping them win last week. Well do
tell okay makers, Oh okay, I mean instead the Texans
had JJ Taylor, so they're fine.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
That's a semantic situation.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Hey, he had a nice run, I know, and then
he got tackled by the turf.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well where was he playing? To be fair, I.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Mean, the concrete shouldn't have made him fall down.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Shouldn't do a lot of things, but it's there and.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Does I'm not gonna act all angry about the cam
Acres deal, but it did seem a bit.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
We were just getting back mixing in Pierce. We should
be fine. And two games later, Damian Pierce was hurt again.
I'm not saying he's injury PROD, just saying you're running
a risk of needing to dip into your practice squad
just to have a proper number of running backs active
for a game day, which is what happened last week.
And technically now JJ Taylor is on the active roster

(24:24):
because he had already been elevated so often, so he
is now part of their roster. But I think it's
pretty safe to says even though I should say this, also,
there's something different. There was something going on, and I
still don't know what it is. There was a disconnect
between the Texans, their offense and cam Akers. I don't
know that it should even matter, because he's too talented

(24:45):
for something like that to matter, unless he was missing
meetings or I don't know what. And I don't even
want to speculate on that because that makes him look
bad for me to even bring it up, and I
have no knowledge of that, But just watching how they
used him and their reluctance to do this with him,
and the fact that he was then traded, it just
something just never kind of felt right about it because
he's too good and Minnesota, who had already had him

(25:06):
brought him back and I, I mean, I can't tell
for sure, but it certainly looks like he's the backup
to Aaron Jones already and had six very impressive runs
in their game over Indianapolis. Minor detail, but yes, the
Caseroo did make that trade here in season. It was
just a couple of weeks ago. A couple of teams
had gotten earlier deals done. Another wide receiver was moved,

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with Mike Williams going from the Jets to the Steelers.
The deal I mentioned that took place last break and
all these become official in a few minutes or hours
when the team's actually announced it Tradevious White was traded
to the Ravens. Once one of the probably four or
five best cornerbacks in the NFL. I think injuries have
taken a toll on him and he's not quite the

(25:47):
player that he once was, but I can understand the team,
like the Ravens, trying to fit him in. The other
receiver of note that was traded today which had most people,
myself included, wondering this doesn't make any sense. I don't understand,
was the Cowboys sending a fourth round pick to add
Jonathan Mingo and a seventh round pick from the Panthers,

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just a couple of days after Deontay Johnson was moved
from the Panthers to the Ravens for a totally different,
very lackluster hall. And I know Mingo's a recent second
round pick. He's just a couple of years into his career.
This is year two. There's probably more upside. He has
two more years under this current extremely team friendly, low

(26:30):
salary deal. There's some value in trying to add players,
especially one that Jerry Jones described earlier today when he said,
we're going to make a deal for a wide receiver
and it's somebody we liked in the draft. This is
clearly who they went after. They'd liked him, and you
know we're not able to select him. So instead of
watching him play incredibly badly for a year and a
half with the Panthers and think otherwise about trying to

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add him, they said, well, if he's the player from
his college days, then we got a good player. Well,
he's now played in the NFL, and I know Andy
Dalton and Bryce Young for the most part, have been
the guys throwing him passes. But you can't ignore the
overwhelmingly incredibly bad numbers that come along with Mingo. But again,

(27:13):
that's the Cowboys. They can do what they want to do.
They haven't made it official with Dak Prescott either, although
he alluded to the fact that it's probably an ir stint,
which would eliminate the next four games, eliminates the possibility
that he could return for the Texans game. It was
thought to be a three to four week hamstring injury,
so that's not really a huge surprise. What might be
a surprise is if the Cowboys decide to play somebody

(27:36):
other than Cooper Rush at quarterback, maybe not this week,
but the week after when the Texans play. I mean,
you traded something of significance to add Trey Lance to
your team. He's been running third string essentially from the
moment you acquired him, if not worse. At some point,
do you want him to play to see if you
know what you have? Are you convinced you know what
you have? Because he isn't playing, and he isn't playing

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for a reason, and he's that far down the depth
chart for a reason. Wouldn't be a crazy thought for
a team that's sliding further out of things three win
team at this point is not out of any playoff picture,
but it's getting pretty close.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
My and all of that is fascinating, especially in the
case of the fact that you're going to play Dallas
the week after this next upcoming game. But I'll tell
you the one thing that has gotten my attention more
than anything else, and it's not even a trade, and
it's not even something that's going to happen, especially in
one of the well in both cases, the other two

(28:33):
top quarter pit quarterback picks in last year's draft. One
team has had to say, Okay, we're probably not fielding
offers for Bryce Young, and the other team just came
out to say, yeah, Anthony Richardson's off limits, even though
several teams have inquired about his availability reportedly, that's just.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
That's a tough look, especially in the Colts case. I think,
you know, Colts to a bigger chance. I think everybody
recognizes that he was clearly not a finished product and
he still isn't. That was clearly buying something now that
you hope in the future is great.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Now.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
They delivered him an extremely short rope because they got good.
They won all these games without him at all. Basically
last year. I mean, they're playing for a division title,
they're playing for a home playoff game last year without him,
I don't think they anticipated that being quite as they
would be quite as competitive. But look inside this division,
I mean, they probably didn't even think the Texans would

(29:31):
be good. Where did they think the competition was coming from.
So maybe it's a little short sighted, and maybe she
should have never been the opening game starter to begin
with if they wanted to truly develop him, might have
changed his entire rookie season. But the position they were
in heading out of the Texans game, especially since he
took himself out of the Texans game for a play,

(29:51):
I think the I think they made a decision that
said we're going to the playoffs this year. I think
they still can. I rate them behind the Bengal, who
they're technically sitting there at the same spot with it
four and five and the Chargers and Broncos got to
get them out of the way if they're gonna get in.
The Colts and they dropped to four and five. I
was a little I mean, I've been as negative about

(30:12):
Joe Flacco as anybody, and I still sat here after
they made that decision that it's the right decision. If
they're trying to win games in twenty twenty four, it
is the right decision. I also don't think it ruins
Anthony Richardson. It hurts him emotionally, but if he handles
the right way, I think he will. If they handle
it the right way, and I think they will, his

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career is not over. They should absolutely not be trading
him because I don't know what they would get. It
would definitely not be equal return for the asset allocation.
They spent the fourth overall pick on him, and we're
just one draft away from that. There's just two drafts
to go. Not time to give up on him. It's
okay to give up on him for now because you're
trying to win and he was not giving you a

(30:54):
good enough chance to win. You did have to balance
one other thing out that I don't know if they're
short sighted on it or if it's not true. Are
we going to be this case? You know, Jonathan Taylor
was able to run the ball before Anthony Richardson arrived
pretty successfully. It's easier to run the football when Anthony
Richardson is your quarterback, though, And I think they kind
of found out that a little bit about that this
last week. Because Joe Flacco back there and Richardson back

(31:18):
there is very very different. Flacco may be a little
bit more dangerous because he can pass it, but you
don't have to accommodate for him, which means you get
to use all eleven players to try to stop Taylor,
not ten because a spy is on Richardson.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
I still can't believe how that game unfolded.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
I just I thought that Minnesota would run rough shot
over them, just be able to put up more points.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Essentially, nobody has like as bad as we are painting
this Colts picture. They're four and five every single game,
all nine of them. They're won score games. They have
a chance to win every week they play, even with
bad quarterback play, even with Jonathan Taylor missing almost half
of the season.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
And if you're in that situation, that is, in my opinion,
way more frustrated than Jacksonville, for.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Example, Jacksonville at least they know where they stand. They suck.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
They don't. They don't know where they stand. They don't
know that. They don't know that. About Trevor Lawrence, no
matter how loudly I say it, he wasn't even the
guy was saying sucked all afternoon at quarterback. That guy's
in New Orleans. But Trevor Lawrence is. I thought I
was being too harsh the day after I said it,
and every day that's passed since then, I probably should
have just repeated it. He plays loser football.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
He plays they lose loser.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
He played like there are a couple games, a couple
of losses away, which one of them where they're gonna
get this week and then if they get one the
week after. I think that'll put their last seventeen games
with him starting, which is their last eighteen games because
they only missed one of them. At three and fourteen,
that's an NFL season. They're two and seven this year.

(32:49):
They lost each of his last five starts last year.
That's two and twelve. Not great three games to go.
Or I mean, it's you can say it's something else.
You can pretend it's other players, or Christian Kirk being heard,
or bringing in a whole new receiving corps this year,
or having Ingram being heard at the beginning of this year,
Trevor being not one hundred percent late last year. Keep

(33:11):
making excuses. We in this city who like covering a
team that's going to win are thoroughly enjoying it.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, absolutely, especially with that one guy who likes to
scream duvall into the camera and then have to double
back on you.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
He's not writing songs about his team every week.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Oh my gosh, that guy.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
I forgot to use that the last time the Texans
beat the Colts.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
All right, one more.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Segment to go, and then we'll find out how a
huge monstrosity of a deal was made by Nick Cassario
or other teams.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Next the eight on Sports Talk seven ninety. Back to
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler. The eighteen on Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Anything happened during the breakwax anything anything, anything at all,
anything at all.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Before the trade deadline, Steelers waved tight end Rodney Williams.
Since they've traded four two players, any roster spots and
again on the trade front. The Texans situation is more
complicated than just two idiots sitting here from two to
six saying, come on, man, do something. There's our cap ramifications.
There's the current cap situation. There's the roster and how

(34:26):
it sits. There's the players at those positions. And how
you accommodate for that. There's the possibility of other players
like Jerry Hughes or Jeff Okuda.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Or Nico Collins.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
From a roster standpoint, are you finding a spot for
them this week? They haven't officially made the move with
Kenyon Green yet to place him on IR Again, there's
more a little bit more to it. Most of it
is money, though most of it is how do you
manipulate the deal of the player you've added? You know,
can you add a player that's making significant money? Are
you more interested in adding a player who's in the

(34:57):
final couple hundred thousand dollars of.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
His super low money deal.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
I mean, those are all factors, so it's not as
easy as like I said, but it just would be
an interesting way to approach this portion of your season.
They are in a good place. You are six and three.
You have a basically a three game lead.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
In the division.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
You are one game behind the Buffalo Bills, who you've beaten,
which means you own the tie break. You're a half
game behind the Pittsburgh Steelers who were off last week,
or the other team that is now ahead of you.
I mean, this is a tremendous place to be. If
I asked you to total recall yourself for the first
nine games of the season and you had no idea

(35:39):
how the Texans arrived at this point, all you knew
is their six and three and CJ. Stroud is starting
Sunday night against the Detroit Lions. You didn't know that
he'd been pressured roughly fifty percent of his dropbacks the
last three weeks. You didn't know that their offensive line
was not very good before that and has gotten significantly
worse since then. You didn't know that Nico Collins had

(36:00):
missed the last four games. It has not yet a
given to be playing in this game Sunday night. I'd
probably let you in on the fact that the Lions
are seven and one. I'd probably tell you that. I'd
probably make sure you knew that. But if you didn't
know all those things, and all you saw was let
me pop up the standings, Oh, let me look at
the who's who's ready to go and where they stand,
everything would look fantastic. But yet there's a little tiny

(36:23):
bit or big bit of dread. Every time the Texans
hit the field each week, there was dread going against
the two win Jets because you were worried that the
Texans offense would not be able to succeed. There was
dread the week before, knowing that the Colts had kind
of shown a little bit of or the Packers had
shown a little bit of the formula that the Colts

(36:44):
would then mirror, which they did, and then the Jets did.
The Lions just added Zadaria Smith. I don't think we
mentioned that name. That was probably what most of you
woke up to today. Zadaria Smith has some history with
the Texans. He saw them just late last year, played
against the Texans when he was with the Browns, which
he still was before this deal was made. But he

(37:05):
played against case Keenum's Houston Texans last year. He was
pretty awesome, so were the Browns. Was a very one
sided affair. Had a couple of sacks, had a sack
called back by penalty, had a pass defense that resulted
in interception, hit the quarterback four times, and they won
the game rather easily. And he's also had a very
good season this year. The best edge rusher, the best

(37:28):
end on the team you're playing Sunday night is him
by a huge amount. They lost their entire pass rush
basically from the edge when Aiden Hutchinson went down. No
player has had real significant damage in the backfield from
the edge with the Lions all year but Hutchinson, and

(37:48):
it's just continued when he left. There was no guy
stepping into his shoes and alarmingly performing at an alarmingly
high level.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
It's pretty hard to do that.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Hutchinson was on his way to winning Defensive Player of
the Year, I think, but Smith changes all of that,
and you're the first team he gets to eat against.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Here is a question I've got for you and anybody
else out there. When we did our preseason predictions, I
believe I had the Texans at ten and seven. I
think you had them at eleven and six. If I recall,
I can see three of the four wins they would
need to get to ten wins on the schedule right

(38:29):
now for sure. Not saying they will. I'm just saying
those are very likely outcomes for those three games. And
they're all division games. It's pretty obvious what they are.
Two against the Jags, yeah, so, and that one's on
the road, that Jags game. I don't really know if
that means anything, but it just is. So you're having
to find at least one win from Cowboys on the

(38:52):
road Lions this week, and then Chiefs are Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Chiefs, Ravens, Why can't you beat the Dolphins here?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I don't know. Are they gonna be favored?

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Yes, Texas will be favored with Tua healthy, Yeah, and
their receivers healthy. Yeah, and all things considered, you're taking.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Unless the Texans are six and seven when they get there,
they will be favored. Unless CJ. Stroud's not playing, they
will be favored.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
To be the fact that and I'm not criticizing, I'm
just saying the fact that you went straight to the
Dolphins game.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Well, because you gave me the Tennessee and Jacksonville game,
which I appreciate, and it is accurate. I mean, two
of their next four games are dubs.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Well, I would say they've got a better chance of
beating the Cowboys on the road under the current circumstances
than they do beating the Dolphins at home. If you're
asking me to be completely brutally honest.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, we can.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
We can disagree on that. Well, you're playing Cooper Rush
at quarterback. You're playing Micah Parsons is the only real
maybe threat He'll be there if he gets if he
doesn't re injure himself. He's playing this week, right his
first game back. You know he's gonna that's true. But
I just I mean, unless something catastrophic happens, you're just

(40:06):
dismissing the fact that by then the Texans will have
figured it out up front. They will they will have
called different plays, they will have accommodated for the fact
that they can't continue to do what they're doing. But
I would like it with how they call plays and
who they send out that.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
I would like it if they would call some other
football teams to try and make a trade.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
But they're not going to do that.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
If you if you guys have been paying attention, We've
tried to mention a handful of the deals that have
been made over the last couple of hours. It's it's
a who's who of corners and wide receivers, an edge
rusher here there, like I mentioned earlier, And they're not
offensive linemen aren't getting moved. Offensive linemen don't normally get moved.
Doesn't mean it can't happen in the next four minutes.

(40:46):
It isn't easy to do. Usually, teams that have backup
offensive linemen have them because they like them, they're not
looking to get rid of them. And if they're older
players that aren't playing well, those are the ones who
you're more likely to get and even those are probably
just walking the street. Lyle Collins, who worked out for
the Texans this week, Aaron Wilson, I mean, those are
the caliber the Texans have added players to their practice

(41:08):
squad on the offensive line. That's still more likely where
you're gonna find somebody if you're not in position to
go get a real player, like someone who's got a
good contract, someone who that team is losing and they
want to make a change to how they're operating, like
the Saints who have traded a very good player today
and Marshawn Lattimore maybe you know, definitely one of the

(41:30):
best players that's been moved Smith. I think Zaria Smith's
probably the other or one of the others. But those
are the teams you got to look at, and they
might not even have a player like that. They do
in Ruiz, but I'm not sure that they're compelled to
move him. I'm not sure that he fits very well.
I think there will be a lot of financial gymnastics
that would be needed to make that player work. Just

(41:50):
for instance, in Brandon Shurff, who I think a lot
of people believe could still be moved by the Jaguars.
But are the Jaguars compelled to send him down the
road in their own division? Probably not.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Yeah, that's always the tricky thing too. If you find
somebody that could help your team, well, the fact that
you've got to convince somebody within the division to let
go of them and help you in the process, no
matter what you're sending back a little bit more dicey
than usual. All Right, something miraculous happens over the next
handful of minutes during the.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Bin, It's gonna be a miracle.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
We will well, it.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Will be on my deck. That's how I'm looking at it.
We will let you know about our number two is
in the books.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
We've got three more coming up next.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam talking your Teams,
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler or the A Team.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
A what's Up, Houston, And hello to all the Space
City Home Network simulcasters. Joining us for our number two
of four here on Sports Talk seven to ninety. It
is the A Team. He's at a Wexler. I am
Adam Clanton. The trade deadline is now officially fifteen seconds expired.
It's like a bad carton of milk and your refrigerator,

(43:09):
well at least it is for the Texans refrigerator. Since
a lot of people were hoping that Nick Cassario and
company would, you know, like the like the meme says,
do something, there was a stick figure and it was
poking at Nick Cassario's shoulder saying, hey, do something here.
But there was a report out earlier today from one
Jonathan Alexander of the Houston Chronicle, who will be joining

(43:31):
us an hour from now, that said, you know, Nick
Cassario is not expected to do anything, and that would
include helping to bolster an offensive line that gave up
eight sacks a little less than a week ago Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Seems like it was two weeks ago at this point.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
But yeah, going into a very very difficult matchup with
a Detroit Lions team that is playing the best football
in the league right now. And yes, I saw the
game last night, and yes I know that my prediction
did not come to fruition, but at least they looked
like the Chiefs last night. And not some team that
just ekes out victories ugly every single time.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
What didn't they do exactly that they won an overtime.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
I said, they looked like the Chiefs finally, not the
team that ekes out victories every week.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
I am just as confused as I was the first
time you said it.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Look, I know what you're gonna do here with your semantics. Bs,
it's gonna say night. It was overtime, and it was close,
and that game was determined and.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Extra So tell me what looked different because the score obviously, pat.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
To Mahomes was awesome for a change. He actually threw
for three hundred yards in multiple touchdowns. It wasn't a
struggle session to get their offense up and down the field,
and then when they did, they actually looked like he
found Travis Kelcey multiple times. These are things that are
staples of their offense that have been missing all year,
at least from a consistency standpoint at the minimum.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
Yeah, that's I don't know. I don't really think Hopkins
impacted that. I mean it literally happened.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Well he wasn't there at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Yeah, but I don't know why that wasn't happening sooner
and correct, I will. You know, I thought it was
really out of line, out of pocket, and totally made
up because of the person that said it. Now I
can't remember who it was. Somebody who was talking about
you know, Travis Kelsey obviously doesn't care about football anymore.
He's totally out of shape. He can't play, he's not
getting open. It's hurting their season. I'm sure he'll get

(45:25):
into shape. But you know who again, whoever the head
said that, it became a big deal, and I don't
think that person had any idea what they were talking
about other than the visuals. Like when we say guys
u steroids, I mean, look at him, he must well.
But looking at Travis Kelcey both during games and especially
before games when he's wearing shorts and a T shirt,

(45:46):
like everything that person said looks like it's true because
we've seen him each year for the last five years
before games, because Kansas City's on TV all the time
and reporters are on the field before games all the time,
and you see what these players look like in their
pregame warm ups prior to putting on the pads. He
definitely doesn't look the same. And it's not only because

(46:07):
he has a horrific haircut. It's because he's bigger. He's
carrying more weight. He might be in shape, but he's
definitely bigger and it's not strength. But I don't know
why last night was any different. If Mahomes wanted to
throw in the football, just throw in the football. He
thrown the wall sixteen times last night. Could he not

(46:29):
do that in any previous weeks with some other defense
playing him so dramatically Differently? Were things so different because
DeAndre Hopkins was on their roster for the second game
this season. I really didn't see it. I do recognize
one enormous factor. Tampa Bay under a very good defensive coach,
they stink defensively. This was one of the worst defenses

(46:51):
the Chiefs have played. And yes, when you say they
look different, that's totally fair and it's accurate. There was
a lot more moving the football for the Chiefs last
night then had been in most of their other games.
He did not throw any interceptions. That is a huge difference.
He did throw for three touchdowns, that is a huge difference.
He nearly threw for three hundred yards. They were insane

(47:13):
on third down. They conferred twelve third downs in last
night's game, and that's where those two guys come in
so dramatically. Again, I don't know what they were waiting
for with Kelsey. The second Rashi Rice was gone, the
second Pacheco was gone, the second your other receivers that
you brought in with them, whether it was Marquise Brown
or then Schuster, like, just go to them NonStop, which

(47:35):
is what Mahomes decided to do last night. He threw
forty four passes. Twenty five of them went to either
Hopkins or Kelsey.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
They contined two of them.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Fantasy Team rejoiced, Yeah, the guy that I drafted finally
showed up.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
By the way, are you gonna congratulate?

Speaker 4 (47:49):
But yeah, again, how how come against the good offense
for Tampa? How come they didn't just win it thirty
to ten? Kansas City's defense is good, It's true, Like,
why did they have to do Let's tell you why.
I was saying they had to come back.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I know we're losing in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
I said this last night, though, and I really I've
never believed it more. And it's not like I'm particularly
happy to be saying this or even be right about it,
because I've thought this for a while.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Baker Mayfield is a good quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Fact and he always has been, but now, especially more
than ever, don't we have to account for the stank
of Cleveland on anybody that plays at that position. And
then I realized he didn't have a great transition year
before he wound up in Tampa Bay.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
I mean, it wasn't horrible, but it wasn't great.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
But since getting to Tampa Bay, all he's done is
win the division last year and he's putting up monster
numbers this year.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Well, I know you were talking, and I know my
ears were open, and then I plugged my headsets plugged in,
so I can hear everything you're saying. But I just
wanted to mention that Nick Cassario made a trade.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yeah, I know you want to you want to do it,
or you want me to.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
I want you see the opposite of what any of
you listening would want right now. Diana Rassini, among others,
was that a current affair? That is, uh, that's interesting.
Khalil Davis Gonzo for a seventh rounder.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
Yeah, I mentioned this yesterday. I didn't think this would
be how it would get utilized. The Texans are absolutely
loaded on the defensive line, so much depth now and
especially if Jerry Hughes is healthy. The only thing they're
missing is potentially Will Anderson because of health and then
awaiting the return of Mario Edwards Junior. Two more games
of his four game suspension still have.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
To be served.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
This one seems way longer than Tanico Autrey's even though
it's way say less.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
He's telling this two games. I just I'm like, man,
come on.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
But yeah, Khalil Davis was going to get crunched through
the numbers. He'd been really good this year. I put
it out last week because it was in the Jets Notes.
The Jets were trying to highlight the work done by
Quinn Williams in his pressure rate as an interior defensive lineman.
He was thirty in the NFL with at least fifty
snaps or pass rush snaps over the last four weeks.

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Heading into their Thursday night game against Houston, well three
Texans interior linemen were in the top six. Fotacasi was three,
Settle was six, and Davis was number one limited snaps.
Because of their rotation, he doesn't play as off and
this is a great opportunity for him. He's also reunited
with another Texans defensive lineman from last year, Elite Collins,

(50:30):
who's been very good again this year. I don't now
have as much negative to say about it, but Collins
was good for the Texans last year. They traded into
the Niners, where he's been good for the Niners, and
now Davis goes there. Texans get a seventh round pick
in return, So they didn't do anything to help the
twenty twenty four Houston Texans via trade. And I'm not
saying again, I've tried to say as many times, and

(50:51):
each time it comes up, I want to reiterate it.
I'm not my expectations weren't They just added a bona
fide starting left guard and they're all set. They just
added a bona fide starting established star level center or
interior alignment. I'd never expected that. I don't think they
needed to do that, and I don't think it would
have been very easy to do that because of their

(51:14):
salary structure. Because those players are hard to pry away
from teams. What would the cost have been. I didn't
expect them to not try to produce more competition in
an area that so obviously needs it.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Well, that's all our guest at the top of the
hour predicted it, and he was right on the money.
Jonathan Alexander of The Chronicle, who will join us at
four o'clock, said, Nick DeSario is not expecting to do anything.
I don't know how they got to that conclusion. I
guess that's the only thing up for discussion, debate, what
have you.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
I hope it means Jarrett Patterson will be out of
the concussion protocol by Sunday. I would think he would
be no way to know, Well, his concussion is different.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Isn't that two weeks though, since it.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Happened Sunday to Sunday.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Guess.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Yeah, So there's steps you need to take, and you
usually are on the practice field and then there's one
more step.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
But usually when it doesn't happen.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
At all since the concussion occurred.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Yeah, but usually when it doesn't happen after a week
by the next game, especially if it's a Sunday to
Sunday situation.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Most NFL players, unless they're two.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Yeah, I don't want to. I this is one thing
I don't have any There's no way to speculate on this.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
You don't want to play a doctor.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I mean, I'm playing a doctor with no information. All
I know is he had one. I don't know the
severity of it. I don't know the symptoms of it.
I don't know where he is today from a slight
sensitivity no idea. Yeah, I mean, it's a it's a
it's a tricky it's a tricky topic, and it's going
to remain that way here in the NFL because that's
the one. But if he isn't, then the same group
you started the year with remains unchanged, except two players

(52:47):
at the same position where you are the worst are
both unavailable. Now, granted, I don't think people want Kenyan
Green back out there because he has not played very well.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
But presumably the depth chart tells you that you're going
to get even worse in those areas.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
It would be hard. But yes, a depth chart tells
you that. The play tells you. Otherwise, it play tells
you what have you been waiting for? But even even
if that is the case, and it is it is
definitely the case, so provide them some I mean, you
play Kendrick Green, you watch how he played against the Jets,
If you're satisfied with that, you're fired. That's that's all
I have to say. The ri As scout, I take it.

(53:22):
There's no way you could say that where this is enough.
We don't need a player to compete with him. We
don't need somebody to supplant him, we don't need to
spell him. It's very non ideal for any of the
five linemen, certainly on the interior, definitely at tackle, probably
more so on the interior. From a communications standpoint, to
suggest they should play two players at one spot. Over

(53:44):
the course of a game, you get a couple series,
and you know, a couple of plays, we will kind
of see how the game's going for when we bring
this person in and you get to take a breather,
and then we'll you know, rotating interior lignement is really really,
really really rare. But at some point this team's play
suggests you kind of have to turn all those stones over.
You gotta check every possibility, and that goes right in

(54:07):
tune with the trade deadline or three weeks ago, when
this problem was so blatantly obvious, I would have thought
they would have tried to do something rather than what
appears to be nothing.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
All right, So the Texans basically, well, they did do
nothing as far as that goes. They do make a
minor deal involving a defensive lineman, but there were trades
that were made. Will go over some of those and
continue here in the three o'clock hour on a Tuesday
edition of the eighteen.

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Speaker 3 (55:21):
Okay, true or false? I saw a post on social media.
This has nothing to do with truth. It says nothing
to do with sports, and it has nothing to do
with the election. So you are just all you are
guessing you are just heads on a swivel right.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
Now all days to not include either of those things.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
I saw a post that somebody put on social media
and it it had to do with a fast food
restaurant that serves tacos here and across America.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
There's a bell involved. So I think you all know
what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
And I have this really, really odd fascination with that place.
I like it probably more than I should. And I mean,
I think there's it's funny people have varying degrees of
either disdain or love for that place, like there's I've
never found somebody that has a gray area right like
you either are like you're some sort of third world citizens.

(56:15):
Nobody says that. I never get a reaction like that
about that place. And I even talked to you about
it earlier in the like during the breaks, and you
were I can't remember the last time I've eaten there.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
That's extreme. I used to eat there quite a bit
a lot. Yeah, well, we used to go to another
place that serve tacos on the Southwest Freeway after Rockets games.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
There was a cabana there.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
Yeah, nice place to hang out.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Yeah, So anyways, I try to convince my wife, who
is one of those people that's absolutely on on that
train most of the time. She's a little under the
weather today and she doesn't really know. That's what I
told her.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
You're gonna feel great if you're all achy and you
feel kind of eh, but it's not like stomach, eh,
it's the head.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Yeah, throw on some fire salsa and go to work
on a ten pack and you're gonna feel better with
You're gonna feel bad first, but then you're gonna feel
better later.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
In always totally you know, feel it doesn't feel like
you're with me. It feels like it can warm.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Use so far removed from it.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
I tried to convince her that's what we should have
for dinner, and she basically told me where I could go,
and it wasn't heaven.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
Are there two hockey sticks? Yeah, and it's real hot,
real hot allegedly. Well, it's written. It is written as
it is written, it is written.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
So anyways, that's my personal life sharing up.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
I'm all for it. I can't wait to hear about it.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
What do you want to talk about Texans trade? That
addresses the offensive line because we don't have one of those.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
Well with the deadline come and gone around the NFL,
it is still pertinent that it happened for everybody else,
very very differently mentioned. The Bengals added a running back
to help Chase Brown with Zach Moss being hurt. The
Ravens added a couple of players they had previously added
Deontay Johnson. The Tredevious White deal came down today. Kind
of a strange deal. Essentially, was would you like Tredevius White?

(58:08):
And they said sure. They swapped seventh round picks and
the team that had Tredevius White gave him to the
other team. It's for a player that used to be really,
really good. And I know there's again there's monetary factors involved.
That's kind of a nothing like. You just gave them
the player and that was the deal. The Chiefs have

(58:29):
made two acquisitions, both of them were before today. Obviously,
DeAndre Hopkins is paying dividends. He wasn't even on the
same page all night long. One of their non connections
late in the game nearly resulted in what would have
been Mahomes's only interception of the game. It might have
cost them the game, but for much of the night
he just said, look, go get open, and he did,
and he threw them the football. Both of his touchdown

(58:51):
receptions were Yeah, I've seen that like fifty times before.
Now are we going to give him credit where it's
due for his Remember the Titan celebration. Yeah, Now you
remember DeAndre Hopkins later in his career here in Houston.
I remember the beginning, very early in his career in Arizona.
He was very pro Yeah, I don't mind social media.

(59:13):
Let me throw this out there, let me let me.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Hit you with this. Sometimes he'd hit you with something
he didn't mean to.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
It's usually when he's happy with this situation. Yeah, because
I don't think he's intentionally Oh this thinks I'm gonna
I'm gonna be sour Nelly on social media. You know,
when things are going well, he's down for telling you
about it. So a lot of people obviously picked up
only remember the Titan celebration was pretty easy to tell,
but he also wanted to explain the reasoning behind it,

(59:38):
which he did today when he quote tweeted that.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
And he's right.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
And I get this sense from a lot of people
who've either been through Tennessee or have now stayed in
Tennessee talking about the Titans. I know they fired Mike
Rabel and I know where they currently sit, but I
think people appreciate what is how the Titans are being
run by Ran Carthon the GM, one of the many
gms that was hired out of San Francisco. And that's

(01:00:02):
essentially what DeAndre Hopkins said today in one of his
earlier tweets saying this was to thank them, to say,
I'm appreciating them. It's like family over there. I wouldn't
be here if it wasn't for them. But he actually
went on social media later today and I thought it
was even better. He sent out a picture with my

(01:00:24):
favorite caption, dot dot dot Yeah yes, and a picture
of Randy Moss hugging Tom Brady as teammates with the Patriots,
which so obviously is saying finally, I'm with the guy,
and Pat Mahomes is the Tom Brady of this generation.
Just look at well everything his resume and where they

(01:00:45):
sit again today at eight and oh above the rest
of the league. You know, Randy Moss's career wasn't as
bad as Deandre's when it as it relates to who
he was catching passes from. He cut passes from perfectly
good talented quarterbacks in Minnesota, maybe not quite as much
in Raiderville, but definitely with New England and the best

(01:01:06):
quarterback of all time. And that's what he's essentially staying
with that. He was involved in an even better tweet
earlier today when our good friends over the thirty third team.
Every once in a while, they have some good stuff.
They have some good people, and I don't often have
great stuff. They put a graphic together. They did have
an error on it, but I don't know what the
air is and they even acknowledged it. Here's a graphic

(01:01:28):
of every quarterback that has thrown a touchdown to DeAndre Hopkins. Ooh, well,
it's a picture that includes fourteen NFL quarterbacks. The last
player to make the list, and they made it before
he caught a second touchdown pass, was obviously Pat Malmes,
a quarterback he caught his most recent touchdown pass. With
all of his Arizona Cardinals touchdown pass receptions came from

(01:01:51):
Kyler Murray. That leaves just his other two teams. You
should be able to name all of the Titans quarterbacks
he caught touchdown pass from.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
There are only two, Ryan Tannehill and Will Lettis. That
is correct.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
So wait, so all the other quarterbacks he's got a
touchdown pass in his career. He did so well he
and that quarterback were playing Houston Texas football.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
I could have sworn he played in a game that
what's his face started?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Who's now in Green Bay? Malik Willis.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
I don't doubt that he played in a game with Okay,
I don't think Malik Willis he might have had one
or two touchdown passes. If you remember when they played,
say Houston, Yeah, and they decided, well, maybe if we
just run the ball in every single play, things will
work out well.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
They did have Derrick Henry and that's worked out well
for Baltimore this year.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
And credit again to Malik Willis. He has been excellent
this year with Green Bay, both throwing the football and
running the football, really just running their offense. They've missed
Jordan Love for a few games and then a part
of some games. He's been brilliant. He's been really really good.
It's why they are where they are, Otherwise they basically
be five hundred. So I've kind of tried to guess

(01:02:57):
a couple of different ways on how I should ask
you the Deshaun or DeAndre Hopkins touchdown reception question. Okay,
you can go ahead and run through the list of
quarterbacks you think he's caught touchdown passes from.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
There's no way I'm gonna even be able to start
guessing all of those. I mean, there's a few, but
I'm gonna miss so many.

Speaker 7 (01:03:17):
Why because when the Texans did what they did under
by the way, he's.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
Even talked about, oh my gosh, the group that I
played with, and then everyone goes to Twitter, Let's see
what we played with, Let's see who all the terrible
quarterbacks are.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
All that last night did, honestly for me, was remind
me of how much I truly do hate Bill O'Brien
for trading that guy for a ham sandwich.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
That many years ago. And he's still he wasn't productive
in Tennessee because they didn't ask him to be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
And maybe you don't have Nico Collins here, and maybe
you didn't get Stefon Diggs if DeAndre Hopkins never goes away,
and maybe you don't get CJ. Stroud because maybe DeAndre
Hopkins helps you win more games and you're out of
the run. I don't know, but just by on principle
and just the utter disdain for life that was Bill
O'Brien being the GM and this team, and that goes
for the people who put him there too, and Jackie

(01:04:05):
easter Be and everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Dumb that I'm getting mad a belt all over again.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
I know I should put in the rear view mirror
where it goes, But every time I see DeAndre Hopkins
be productive, I can't help but think, how stupid are
you Bill O'Brien, Like, seriously, I would never let him
near an NFL franchise as long as he lives for
the rest of time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Ever.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
All right, then I'll just leave it at at this
question for you to answering all the quarterback question that
you I mean, I even accidentally said and you didn't
even say.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Did obviously in brock Osweiler and uh I was was
fitsy involved at that point?

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
I can't remember, and all the other stepped guys.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
Just you haven't missed yet because he caught one from
all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Who is the ball guy that always played in New
England like Brian Hoyer, h Jake Deloon didn't throw one
to him?

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
You're just yeah that was but yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Wheden Savage brock we.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Whedon played and found a way to throw DeAndre Hopkins
a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Yes, So the question I I'm savage, You're gonna You're
gonna answer, and we'll just find out if you can
answer it correctly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Next time somebody dogs on a Texans fan about CJ.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
They deserve him.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Who did Matt shop throw more career touchdown passes?

Speaker 8 (01:05:22):
Two?

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Calvin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins, Roddy White or Vontae Leach.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Andre Johnson's not on that list.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
I didn't say who he throwed the most two of
those four.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Give me the names again.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Who did you throw the most to? Calvin Ridley, Roddy
White or DeAndre?

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
It's gotta be DeAndre.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
He caught one, Ridley caught one, right, I caught one,
and Leach caught two Matt Shop's career.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
DeAndre Hopkins, Kansas City, chief dominator of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
He dominated.

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Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Had a bit of breaking news in the NBA, which
shouldn't really surprise anyone if you even kind of had
an inkling of what happened the other night. How do
you get fired on your day off? He didn't get fired,
but he did get suspended on his day off, his
days off. Joelle Embiid has been suspended three games for

(01:06:45):
his altercation shoving a columnist in a postgame locker room
that was over the weekend. Saturday night that happened happened
to be doing the Rockets game and Darryl Morey's wife,
Ellen was in at ten Day that night and had
come up to say hello after the game, and its
topic came up and she was like, oh, yeah, the

(01:07:05):
phone's been blowing up because everybody's wanting to know exactly
what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
And I still don't know what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
I actually was shocked there wasn't a camera that was
rolling on said altercation.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
We never ended up seeing any footage.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Maybe there is some, but I feel like if there was,
we would have seen it by now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
But you know, somebody wrote something that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Joel emb didn't like, and Joel Embiid apparently, you know,
there was rumors of a punch then it was a shove,
and I think we settled on a shove and that's
what happened. And now whenever he decides to come back,
he won't play the first three games.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
Yeah, it will be after health returns. Otherwise it's a
non suspension. But yeah, there was something written that was
very personal, and I think most of us agree it
was wrong. I think the reported the columnist does also
because you know, I did hear a reporter's account of
what took place that was in the locker room at

(01:07:59):
the time, and they were essentially waiting to talk to
Tyrese Maxi, and ultimately this conversation took place, and they
were basically going back and forth verbally with one another.
And Hayes did it appear apologized for it. I'm not
sure with what words and how he described what he
felt like he needed to apologize for. And Embiid was

(01:08:20):
still yelling at him and ultimately shoved him, and then
they were you know, there was no real pulling them apart.
It was more moving Embiid further away with team security
and whatnot, and then they proceeded to continue their interviews
with other players outside the locker room. You know, the
NBA can't clearly do nothing, and I think this seems
as an appropriate punishment, and both sides should recognize what

(01:08:44):
took place and see about not allowing it to happen again.
I don't mean with these two in particular. I mean
things are changing. They opened up last night's Monday Night
football broadcast with a comment from Jason Kelsey. I know
most people grabbed it and called it an apology. He
did not apologize that I heard. I listened to what

(01:09:05):
he said. I didn't hear an apology. I heard him
say I don't think I acted very well. I did
not have a good moment. But he didn't say I'm
sorry for what I've done. But it also shows you there.
I think the columnist and the individual who are very
very very different people, but they seem to have the
same type of feeling that it's all fair game. You're

(01:09:27):
not a human being. You can't react to this. You
don't have any emotions, You're not human. You're not going
to do anything because I'm just going to write it
and then keep going on about my business, or I'm
gonna yell things at you, and I'm gonna just try
to have a moment now that's where they're really really different.
I don't think Hayes was trying to have a moment.
I definitely think the person following and yelling at Jason
Kelsey was trying to have a moment, as a lot

(01:09:49):
of fans unfortunately do, whether it's at games or elsewhere
or coming to and from games. The bravado people show
now is indicative of how things are. Social media is
definitely huge part of that because of what can happen
to you on social media, where you can turn from
a complete, unknown, random person walking the streets of America
to somebody who can turn it into money. We see

(01:10:11):
it time and time again and again. I don't know
what people's motives are, but being is that we keep
seeing it so often. I hope more people, especially in
the sports world, this world, you can recognize that was
over the line. It was something that shouldn't have been
written about. He shouldn't have compared him his brother who's
not with us, and his son who's named after him

(01:10:32):
to if he's going to tell us what he's playing
the game for and who he's living his life for,
he needs to be out there to do it, Which
was the gist of what was written there. I don't
have any reason. There's no reason for Joel Embiid not
to feel something that would cause a very serious, least
emotional reaction and in this case, also a physical reaction.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Joe Dumars, who used to be a member of the
Bad Boys and now is in charge of suspending players
for things, I just think that's funny. He had following
to say, mutual respect is paramount to the relationship between
players and media in the NBA. While we understand Joelle
was offended by the personal nature of the original version
of the reporter's column, interactions must remain professional on both

(01:11:14):
sides and can never turn physical. My question is, I mean, here, well,
you have a slippery slope, right. You can't tell, especially
a columnist. I don't know if this guy is always
opinion or if he's a reporter or Okay, so columnists
by definition is a guy who's going to bring an

(01:11:34):
opinion and a slant or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
It's not just straight facts.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
I don't know if you can kind of dictate what
someone like that's gonna write. I mean, there's some ground rules, obviously,
but it just seems kind of like gray at the
very least. But so is anything going to happen to him?
And it doesn't sound like it, but Joelle can't. He

(01:12:00):
can't get physical either. But it just to me it
feels like, Okay, well, this guy wrote what he wanted
and Joel Embiid is supposed to just sit there and
take it. Even if you're not supposed to punch or
shove a guy, it's you know, it's effectively, well, this
guy can get a little bit more personal.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Nothing is going to happen to him. Well, I don't
know about that. I don't think the league can. It's
going to send out a release in the same way.
But I think the sixers in the league can get
together and say, you know, you're not covering the team
for a week, two weeks, a month, something along those lines.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
They're not his.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
He doesn't work for them. He's credentialed by them, but
he doesn't work for them. That's why I think, you know,
Joe describes it in that way. And I want to
know a little bit about So. I was telling you
that he had apparently, according to others accounts, he had
apologized to Joel within this screaming interaction. Well, I'm curious,
did he apologize because he saw how upset he was.

(01:12:58):
Did he apologize because it was becoming a sho a
verbal altercation, or did he know after he'd written it,
not long after, before he'd hearn anything from Joel or
the Sixers or other that I probably shouldn't have done this.
I need to reach out to the Sixers, and I
need to see about issuing an apology to him, meeting
with him off to the side, doing something so I

(01:13:20):
can say what I truly feel about being maybe out
of bounds for this, which apparently he feels that way.
But I just I'm curious if that was not part
of it, and he apologized only in this kind of
heat of the moment situation. But it's a it's something
that you know, we all agree that part of it
can happen, but we can't expect people. He's a people.
He's a person. Yeah, he's a people. Uh, he's gonna

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you know, it's okay, it's okay to react to things.
These they're they're not robots and they're not supposed to
just take it. We've seen that court side way too much,
way too much. Oh, you're an NBA player, they paid
to come to the game. You're a Major League Baseball player.
They paid to come here. They're not paying to do
things that are out of bounds. And sometimes it's very

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clear when those ways are out of bounds. And in
this case, it wasn't even a fan, it was someone
who's covering the team.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
I don't know how much you have interacted with him
personally or no people who have, but I have it
on good authority, like Joel Embiid's one of the best
dudes in the NBA off the floor, especially that he's
I mean, we've seen his act on social media, and
we've seen you know, we've seen his act in media settings.
He's he's generally a pretty good interview, good guy to

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be around, like fun loving, all that kind of stuff.
So this is, like I would say, for him, especially
super out of character.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
Yeah, I'm not sure because I think some of the
way his career has gone, the frustration level of it,
I think has kind of changed things. Frustration and not winning,
frustration not being out there, and literally this year he
has not played a game yet and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Paul George just played last night, so they the deck
is stacked against them. As we continue here during the
three o'clock hour, the Aight.

Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
On Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 10 (01:15:06):
They say, you only have one laugh, so we don't
waste it being Dallas fans.

Speaker 6 (01:15:11):
Do sort back to Houston's a team.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Alright, alright, alright.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Adam Clinton, Adam Wexler on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
We are one segment away from the Chronicles. Jonathan Alexander
joining us to break down in intrinsic detail the Khalil
Davis trade for a seventh round pick to the forty
nine ers. It is going to be absolutely spectacular. Now,
it's going to be a segment probably full of a
lot of question marks as to why the Texans felt

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like they.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Didn't need to do more.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
It's I don't again, if there's some logic I'm missing,
If you think that you can coach him up, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
I don't get it. I'm not gonna get it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
And again, have I been emotional at times about decisions
the Texans have made or have not made in certain
cases over the years. Absolutely, and sometimes you get the
emotions get the better of you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
For the most part, when I've been critical of the
Texans over the past decade or so, I have.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Either immediately or down the line.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
It's been well founded. I, you know, not a thousand percent,
but definitely close to it. I feel like I was
absolutely spot on about the entire Bill O'Brien tenure, even
though we have vehemently disagreed over certain aspects of that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
Up until twenty twenty three, best coach they've ever had.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Are you done?

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
You don't even mean that, You don't even want to
say it. You just had to. It was like your
brain was like, well, I got to do my bidit.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
I balance it out by saying worst GM. Yes, they
you have to factor in Jack Easter be to that
whole thing. You have to because he was behind thisan's
doing things he had no business doing running a football team. Ah,
that's one handling logistics. He's really good at that. Wears
a lot of hats, stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
All right, I'm gonna get the charter ready. You'll laugh
at that later.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Well, at sixteen and ten, you'll be happy to know
that there is now one coach with a better winning
percentage than Bill O'Brien.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
What's his name.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
His name's Tomik o'rians. That's what I figured. I didn't
think it would take long. Oh, he has to stay there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
He will not going anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
Got a ways to go till it catches him in victories. Well,
I mean think about one playoff win shy of matching him.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Yeah, think about the first year, the or the maiden
voyages of every single head coach in Texans history. He
obliterated all of them. What was Bill O'Brien's record the
first year seven and nine? Well, that sounds ninety seven,
is not the bar. It was nine and seven, oh
it was. He had He only had one losing season
that year.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
He got fired right, so on the four and twelve
season and then the zero to.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
Four season, So they were two and fourteen and then
he won four games the next year. From about Bill O'Brien, here's.

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
Bill O'Brien as a Texans head coach three nine and
seven seasons. Then they went four and twelve, then they
won eleven and then ten, and he got fired when
they started without a win in four game.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
I got you. So the first season was nine and
cent Okay, I was I got so he did?

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
That was obliterated by Ryan'sho was gifted an extra game
in order to top Bill O'Brien since he started his first
season as head coach with a nine and seven record.
All he did was coach the season schedule in front
of him. That's true, So just like coach Dave and
Lovey before him.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
But yeah, I mean, well, if he gets to ten wins,
he will have obliterated the first two seasons. It's abliteration,
that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
Before the end of the year, he will slide past
dom Capers on the all time wins list in two years,
probably before they even get to the seventeen the game.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
With two extra games, but still well, dom Capers.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
The fact that he was able to squeeze four wins
out of that that team's offensive line still the worst
in team history, not in close.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
I was looking back at the Zadaria Smith start against
the Texans last year. He was playing for the Browns.
Case Keenum started for the Texans. The Texans had only
two of the linemen that probably will be out there
Sunday also playing that game. It was only the day

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before Christmas. It was only a handful of games ago.
But this was back when their tackles Laromy Tunzel was
out there, but their right tackle was Charlie Heck. Jack
Mason was his familiar spot. He was right guard jew
Scruggs played, but again last year he wasn't the center
because he was gonna be and then he got hurt.
He played left guard and it was Mike Dieter handling
the snapping for Case Keenum. And again that was a

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game where only Case and Davis played. This was not
a matchup against the CJ. Stroud led Texans. Why Zadarias
Smith was really really, really impactful along that Browns line.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
I thought of you this weekend when George Fan's name
was uttered during the Seahawks game.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
He was extremely important last year and good.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
Yeah, I just wonder if he was in place instead,
how much well.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
You'd be asking Titus Howard to play inside again and
he's I'm sure he's better than Kenyon Green's performance has been,
but he's not good. Like now that you might be
doing that again, if you really have to turn to
Blake Fitcher this year, that they.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
A choice now that they've not made a trade, I'm
I mean, I'm super curious about what the offseason looks like,
and I get there's a long way to go, But
just as far as addressing the offensive line, how aggressive
are they in fact like.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
Walk around the positions like I did in the opening
segment when I said, well, just they addressed literally every
single position group onto the team in the off season
except for the offensive line. Okay, now you're in the
next off season, do you need to address the running
back room. No, No, you'll probably add a play you

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might even draft a player, but you don't have to
go after somebody. You're gonna add an edge rusher to start,
absolutely not. Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter are gonna be back,
so it is Denico Autry. You're gonna add anybody in
the secondary to start. I mean there might be one
open spot. Pe Tree, Stingley, Junior Bullock, and Lassiter. They're
all gonna start next year. You've already re upped with
Jimmy Ward. But you might be able to find a

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way to spend real money or some capital in the
draft in that I doubt it, but it's possible. You
only start two linebackers, you're probably not adding another one.
You already have four that can play right now, and
you only need two if all share or is healthy.
You've got made all those changes on the defensive line,
you don't have to spend any money pretty much anywhere,

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how aggressive. What's the top of the line. If I'm
at the carnival and You've handed me my sledgehammer and
I'm trying to ring the bell or maybe send that
little the thing that rings the bell. Yeah, off the charts,
off the track, and into the somebody cotton candy machine.
That's how aggressive they should be, as aggressive as you

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can possibly be. Draft day, they have their first round pick,
they have a second round pick, and in the off
season with free agency, they're not in an awesome spending
position though like they were last year. That is a
major difference, so it won't be quite as easy to
just say, well, just attack our problems with money.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
They just did that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
It's working in all the other areas, like who's not up,
who's not happy with the additions they made in free
agency or even through the draft. You thought on paper
it made sense. We thought the way they were spending
their money it seemed good. Now we're watching it play out,
it's been unbelievably successful. Literally every move they made was good.
All the money they spent worked.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
That's the rough part is that they did address the
offensive line with an early pick.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
They drafted a reserve, though intentionally they did not intend
for him to play well.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
But what I'm saying is, you know, Kamario last Ter,
nobody's going to I don't think anybody's gonna argue with
that pick.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
It was fantastic. He's been great for a rookie so far.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
He's as much as much as you could expect from
a number ten overall pick. Then you have Fisher and
then Kylen Bullock has been awesome. On the other side
of the football, Cad Stover, I don't know yet incomplete.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
I mean he's he's a rookie.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Yeah, well you have to when Brevin Jordan's out for
the year and Dalton Schultz is Dalton Schultz.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Now, I will say this about Dalton Schultz.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
He did come on over the second half of last
year more so, like I remember vividly. Now Yeah, no,
it's ready now Detroit would be a very good day
for you to do that, very good game, uh in
week ten. But yeah, I just after that, it's I
don't know, like if you're taking two offensive linemen, I

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just it's a it's a very interesting situation to look
into as we go to the four o'clock hour next.

Speaker 6 (01:24:05):
The A teen on Sports Talk seven ninety two.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Talking Your Team series.
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team A Tim.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Talks and football.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
Finally, after two hours of being with you, we will
talk even more football.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
I am kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
Jonathan Alexander of the Houston Chronicle, the beat writer for
the Houston Texans, nice enough to spend a few minutes
with our audience here both on Sports Talk seven ninety
and via the simulcast on Space City Home Network. It
went about as you described it would in a recent
piece saying would not expect an active incoming player acquisition
deadline for Nick Cassero. They did make a deal that

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sends Khalil Davis to San Francisco for a twenty twenty
six seventh round pick. Why do you think the Texans
felt like the group they already have, plus whoever they
might bring in on a workout or on the practice
squad from an offensive line standpoint, was enough to move
forward with.

Speaker 11 (01:25:13):
Yeah. I don't necessarily think it was, you know, the
Texans feeling like, oh, this team is, you know, good,
so let's just keep the band going. I think it
was a little bit more than that, you know, For one,
you look at the Texans cap situation and they had
five point four million dollars in cash base. Now, they
could have cleared money by restructuring the deals of players

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like Laramie Tunsel and Titus Howard, but they didn't want
to do that. They felt like they had made their
big move in the offseason that was for Stefan Diggs
and obviously he suffered a ACL injury and is out
for the season, So they were kind of they kind
of had their hands tied, and when none they weren't
unable to make a big move. Plus, when you look

(01:25:56):
at the guard market, there weren't a ton of good
left guards available for trades out there, and that was
one of the Texas biggest needs that And I would
say wide receiver and they look at Nico Collins coming
back as an addition to that lineup.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
Did they tie their hands for the twenty twenty five
off season? Also with all the signings and the remaining
money on the cap for Stefan Diggs and dead money,
how do they address this problem? Even we don't care today,
but curious, how do they address it in the off season?

Speaker 6 (01:26:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:26:32):
I think, you know, I think you have to look
at how you know, they'll address the offensive line, which
is their biggest problem, right and you know, I think
you could see them drafting a player in one of
the early rounds, and they've done that. They invested a
lot of capital and King and Green, Juice Scrugs, Blake Fisher,

(01:26:53):
and you know, obviously it didn't work out with King
and Green, but they hoped that Juice Scrugs and Blake
Fisher can develop to something and if they add another piece,
that's how they hope to do it. I think I
don't think you'll see them trade for another big time
wide receiver like they did, because obviously it didn't work
out this year. You saw when they traded for Stefan Diggs.

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He and Nico had success, but it also, you know,
hurt the progression of Tank Dell. He didn't have this
big game until this past week. And it just doesn't
seem like an offense that can sustain that many weapons
because you have that many mouths to feed. You know,
Joe Mixon has obviously been a huge part of this offense.

(01:27:35):
So I think what you'll see more important as the
Texans start to add more depth to try to sustain
potential injuries that could occur and not have a whole
bunch of big superstars on that roster.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
Jonathan Alexander joining us from the Houston Chronicle here on
Sports Talks seven to ninety and Space City Home Network.
Jonathan asked Wex's question a couple of days ago and wondering,
what's your take on this is how frustrated is CJ?
And what I mean by that is is he? You know,
is he We've seen him throw his helmet down the sidelines.

(01:28:07):
We've seen you know, him kind of get after some
of the offensive lineman during games. But how much do
you think that's permeating you know, behind closed doors. I
know I'm asking you to do something you may don't
get to see, but you know, how much is that
an issue or a factor at play here when you're
trying to protect a guy like that?

Speaker 11 (01:28:26):
Yeah, I mean it's extremely frustrating for CJ, you know,
because he knows and the team knows when he's capable
of when he is protected. He was protected last year
for the majority of that season despite the injuries that
they had, and you saw the type of season that
he had with twenty three touchdown, five interceptions. Rookie of

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the year with one of the best quarterbacks in the league,
and he's been hit constantly this year, specially the last
three games, and you kind of saw it have an
effect on him against the Jets where he started to
get happy feed and kind of rush this process and
start to miss open receivers. So I'm sure it's extremely

(01:29:06):
frustrating for him. Is something that the team is hoping
to address. You know, even c J. Strout kind of
mentioned it in the press conference a couple of weeks ago.
He wants to provide some input with the protection calls
and help out do scrubs. So I think it's their
number one concern moving forward and it's what they'll continue

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to focus on in hopes of getting the offense back
on track.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
Where does Bobby Slowik fit into all this and why
haven't things seemingly changed over the last three games from
a play calling standpoint, you know, protection standpoint, moving the pocket,
anything like that is kind of his culpability in all this.

Speaker 11 (01:29:48):
Yeah, I think he you know, he runs the offense
and the offense just has not look good from a
pass protection standpoint, So he owns that responsibility. I think
you know, a lot of people and right I had
the same question, why if the Texas is going to
the path to the quick game, and I think one

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of the answers that I will seek out was that
they're missing their quick game passing option. You know, Nico
Collins has been out the pass four games. Tank dell
is a is a really good receiver, but he's not
really elite in the quick game. He kind of gets
jammed at the line of scrimmage. But that's on Bobby
Floyd to figure that out and figure out how you can,

(01:30:30):
you know, reduce the hits that c Stride has taken
and not take so many seven drop passes from behind
the center. I think they got to reduce that, and
I think it'll be a focus. Is going to have
to be a focus because you know, they have not
performed well. The other thing is, you know, second half,
third quarters they haven't played well. They've been outscored I

(01:30:50):
think fifty eight to thirty two and the third quarter games.
It's gotten out the slow start. They've got to pick
it up in the third quarter and adjust to the
other team's adjustments a lot better.

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
Jonathan Alexander Houston Chronicle Houston Texans beat writer, joining us
here on the a team. We'll spend a lot more
time on this, no doubt, especially if things don't change
against the Lions. Lions are in a little bit better
position even today than they wore a couple of days
ago to make that continue to happen with the addition
they made at edge with Smith coming aboard via trade.

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What about the other side of it? Their offense can
be extremely explosive. They certainly have all the weapons. Jamison
Williams expected that he will be ready to go. He'll
be off suspension, but it's not a given that he's
a huge part of the game plan.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
I suspect that he will be.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
Don't really have a good line on will Anderson unless
you can tell us otherwise on his availability. But how
does this Texans defense keep that offense from being as
explosive and really as accurate as GoF has been all year?
How do they slow them down?

Speaker 11 (01:31:53):
Yeah? I think and really the only way is that
they stop or running. I mean, because that's the Lion's
mo their is to run the football, and with their
two running backs Gibbs and Montgomery, and they've done that
consistently and when they've run the football, it has allowed
uh them to have open receivers in the play action game,

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and that's what the Lions really thrive off of them.
So the Texans are gonna have to stop the run.
And you know, Will Anderson's is somebody they're evaluating ankle injury.
He's had a history of ankle injuries throughout his career.
So it's something to watch and you know, we'll see
more on Wednesday. But it's a significant problem because Will

(01:32:39):
is their best player and if you can't play, and
then the Texans are gonna have gonna have an issue. Now,
Denico Austric can fill in, but he's not the same.
Will Anderson is their leader of that group. And this
is a really good Lions team well I think is
the best in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
So Nico Collins is likely to return I unless there's
some kind of setback. Nothing official has been now, but
you would think he'd be out there. Do you anticipate
him being you know, it's kind of like Kyle Tucker
with the Astros this year. Do you anticipate him going
right back out there and putting up the eye popping
numbers he was before. Do you anticipate a little rust
or maybe trying to get back on the same page

(01:33:15):
with cj et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 11 (01:33:18):
Yeah, I could see him coming out and having a
good game, something around eighty yards, maybe even close to
one hundred. I mean, he was just playing at a
an an elite level before his injury, and if he's healthy,
then he shouldn't miss a beat him he Nico Collins
if he just try to have plenty of reps and
I think they'd be able to pick up where they
left off. If he's there, he'll be a major part

(01:33:40):
of the game plan. He was kind of coming into
this year. They knew he'd be a focal point in
this offense, and I think that they'll look to go
to him often early and often if he's playing, and
if he's one hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:33:53):
Healthy, any reason why he would not have also been
with Jerry Hughes and Jeff Alcuda as a we open
his practice window to return as an injured reserve player
designated to return.

Speaker 11 (01:34:06):
In a couple of things, I think hamshering injuries can
be a little bit tricky. You want to be careful
with them. The other thing is Demiko Ryans is very
huge on on you know, trying to gain an edge
on the opponents. He wants the Lions to be guessing.
So I think it's a little bit of gamesmanship with that.

(01:34:26):
But you know, Hamshering injuries are tricky. Player can have
a set back at any moment and then be out
for a couple of weeks. So I think it's part
being careful, part gamesmanship.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
Well, I'm sure you and everybody else is planning out
your battle red wardrobe for Sunday night football with the
Lions coming to town. I look forward to seeing you
out there probably during the week and then see what
you got for the fans from a year standpoint coming
up on Sunday Night. Jonathan always appreciate the time.

Speaker 11 (01:34:54):
I appreciate you having me.

Speaker 4 (01:34:55):
He knows he's not gonna he's not wearing battle Red
on Sunday Night.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
I mean, I wouldn't frop.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
He's a professional member of the media. Well, does it
mean he can't wear some red? I'm gonna pause on
the battle Red what's the difference. I don't think he's
gonna wear a jersey that says Alexander on.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
The back, But to be pretty awesome if he did,
like you have the Texans jersey on, but then you
turn around.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
You see it's their last name is Dad.

Speaker 4 (01:35:20):
Okay, it is battle Red Sunday for your Texans Sunday
night football against the Lines.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
We'll have more on that next.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety. Back to Adam
Clinton and Adam Wexler the eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Back here on the eighteen.

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
A couple of things from our conversation with Jonathan Alexander
of The Chronicle covers the Texans as their beat writer,
but I also wanted to mention the Texans also announce
that they sucked the gravity out of the building over
at NRG Stadium. Earlier today, Sean Bradley was released from
the practice squad. Tremaine Ankle has been added to the
practice squad, and they officially announced the deal sending Khalil

(01:36:04):
Davis signing the right spelling to the San Francisco forty
nine ers. I'm sure there are a lot of things
that are very different his height.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
Yeah, and wait, if we're being honest, I'm done.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
Thank you. I'm glad that you're done.

Speaker 11 (01:36:21):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
By the way, I know we're all upset because Nick
Cassario didn't fix the offensive line this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
But not likely that he was going to well, he
could have tried.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
He didn't do that, so at least not that we
know of, especially when you're being told he's not going
to do anything hours before he doesn't do anything. But
and thanks again to Jonathan Alexander who just came on
with us and was the guy who passed that report
along that he wouldn't be doing anything. It could be worse,
It could be worse. You earlier in the show were

(01:36:54):
talking about the nonsensical move moves, and a lot of
them have happened this year.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
But this latest one that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
The Dallas Cowboys did in trading for Jonathan Mingo, fourth
round pick in the twenty five NFL Draft, is what
goes to Carolina. He's twenty three. But the Cowboys fan base,
and again, nobody here feels sorry for this fan base
at all.

Speaker 4 (01:37:21):
And we really won't two weeks from you know, or
I guess two games from now, when the two of
these two teams get together, but they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
I know, this is gonna shock you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
Very happy with Jerry Jones and what he did today,
one of them noting that he paid a more expensive
price for Mingo than the Chiefs did for DeAndre Hopkins
and the Ravens did for Deontae Johnson, and you know
their resumes and especially what's left in the tank for
both of them. And they spent more in that fourth

(01:37:53):
round pick than they got in return when they traded
Amari Cooper to the Browns and got a fifth rounder back.
Sarah Bay's upset with Jerry Jones, and, as is always
the case, very rational, very thought out commentary on social
media about this. As One guy said that Jerry Jones
genuinely needs a mental evaluation at this point, and another

(01:38:15):
guy said, only the stupid Cowboys retire Jerry Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
I bring all this up.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
And by the way, Robert Griffin third also weighed in,
Dallas Cowboys gave up more to get Jonathan Mingo than
the Chiefs did to give up DeAndre Hopkins.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
Lord have mercy, that's his quote. We can get upset about. No,
nobody's debating who's better. It's very obvious who's better. But
I mean there are reasons why they did it. It's
still a bad deal. I'm not spinning it. But you
traded a guy in his second year that you believe
can play, rather than one of these other veteran receivers.
You already know they can play. There's no reason to

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add them. I don't think for those they're trying to
get somebody that just the same way they traded for
Trey Lance. But it is actually worse because so many
people that cover the game just couldn't help themselves today.
The number of statistics beyond the how many catches does
he have? How many yards does he have in his
two years or one plus year? And the Panthers like
five hundred and twenty six out of five hundred and

(01:39:10):
twenty six receivers, that's where he ranks since two thousand
in yards per route run not close to the bottom
among five hundred receivers. He literally is the bottom. That's
the caliber of play he's put on tape, which goes
back to the first time we brought this up. Today,
you can like them all you want coming out of

(01:39:30):
the draft, which is already not an exact science, don't
you want to utilize the NFL information at least as much,
if not more. He's playing in your league against the
competition he's now going to see with your team, and
he's been insanely unsuccessful.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
What about this take right here? The Cowboys gave up
more for Mingo than the Chiefs gave up for DeAndre
Hopkins and the Ravens gave up for Johnson. Jerry Jones
is out here doing doing bleep just to say he
did because he can't admit the rest of the season
is irrelevant. It's a clown organization. Now they're what three

(01:40:11):
and six now.

Speaker 4 (01:40:12):
They should have moved players. They should have said sold. Yes, yeah,
I mean that's a better way to put it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
Well, sellers instead of buyers. That's what we was talking
about the Baseball again.

Speaker 4 (01:40:22):
Buyer for adding Jonathan Mingos.

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
It's it's a thing, and I guess that's true, But
I mean that that last little quip right there. This
is just people on Twitter, but these are people that
have seen Jerry Jones operate years and years before this,
saw how he operated this offseason, or in this case,
really didn't until the eleventh hour when he gave out
money to Dak Prescott and well, what are you getting

(01:40:47):
for your investment? But I kind of agree with that
last part.

Speaker 4 (01:40:53):
Because Dak Prescott's going to be out at least two
weeks right, probably longer if they end up putting him
on r which Jerry kind of indicated today.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
He thought they would do.

Speaker 4 (01:41:02):
And you probably don't make a move like that until
Wednesday or Thursday when you get back on the field.
When you get you know, you have something to do
with that roster spot. But it sounded like he's gonna
miss the next four games at a minimum.

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Yeah, so that's that's four and they've got you know,
they're already in dire straits because they're third in the
division and the other two teams like you can say, okay,
well we probably saw that coming with the Eagles, they
got Saquon Barkley, they're a good team, blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (01:41:27):
But the Commanders, nobody saw that coming. Well, they only
trail the Commanders by four wins.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
I mean, you've still got to play some of these
teams again, and you got to play the Texans coming up.

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
Like it's just did you know the thirteenth they're thirteenth
in the sixteen team NFC, Just if you were unaware,
that's how far away.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
From the NFC. North is awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:41:53):
Even though the Bears are five hundred, that's the best
division in probably football. Atlanta's better than I think a
lot of people thought they would be.

Speaker 4 (01:42:01):
It's funny you say that to me, because the next
in season head coach firing is the Bear's head coach
Aberflus is not lasting the season.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
How long has he gotten now? Two years plus this year,
so he's in his third year. I mean, that's that's
how it goes now.

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
Though it doesn't have to. No, you need to not
lose your team. You can't have your players doing radio
interviews and getting asked that very question, has he lost
this team and has that response being I'm not gonna
say no.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
But I'm just saying from the standpoint of on average,
you get basically just shy of three years.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
If you're not.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
If the team isn't going in the a very good
direction by year three, you're out.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
But you could argue that they are.

Speaker 4 (01:42:50):
This is how bad it is there, and this is
how bad a job I think he's doing. Even with
the expected grace of well, we drafted your quarterback and
we're expecting you to play him. Well, you're gonna have
growing pains if it's not c J. Stroud, and they are.
They've just scored three field goals against the Cardinals this
last week. That's it and nine points. They won three
games in his first year, and he took over a
bad team and then they won seven games and they

(01:43:13):
were so obviously they want seven incent they're five hundred
now and they're riding a two game losing treat. They
were fourign too, right, like they they technically while they
are in fourth place, it's a good division that you
could argue they are going in the right direction, but
it is a very very bad, bad situation there, Yeah,
the Cowboys situation. To send us back to your topic,

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it's the Eagles, Texans and Commanders the next three weeks.
The two teams at the top of their division, and
they're the other team in the state. You almost got
me to say in state rival. Don't believe that to
be accurate.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
Well, they're not in the same conference.

Speaker 4 (01:43:45):
They're not football rivals. They may rival each other for
whose fans they get, but they don't rival each other
on the football field. They never play. Why would they
win any of these games? No, especially with Cooper Rushi
at quarterback, because even though Trey Lance, well, if you're
going to do some of the other things and if
you continue to lose, you you're not gonna lose the

(01:44:07):
locker room at that point. Here's why thing, you've lost
the season, you you have him. If you don't know
the answer, maybe they already do and we don't know
the answer because they've decided watching him in practice during
camp he can't play, which seems silly. I would expect
him to play this year if they are out of
it when Dak gets healthy, because what.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
Are you playing him?

Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
I mean, what what are you playing Dak for at
that point?

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
Well? But okay, Cooper Rush plays this week?

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
Right, Yes, he has to completely just bleep the bed
for you to make a second quarterback change in three games?

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
No, what why would you if you're three and six,
what are you're gonna keep playing Cooper Rush? And then
you're gonna go three and seven. Then you gonna play
it some more and you're gonna go three and eight.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Okay, but what why is? Why is Trey Lance third
on the depth chart?

Speaker 12 (01:44:55):
Then?

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
I mean, if you think that Trey Lance gives you
the better chance to play, he'd be playing right now
now right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:02):
He has no experience basically, and Cooper does.

Speaker 11 (01:45:04):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:45:05):
I don't think he's gonna play badly. I just don't
think they're gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying if they don't win
this week, I don't see them based on what you
just said, I don't see them saying all right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:15):
Neither one of them can play like Trey. Lance is
not the answer for any team's future in my opinion,
just my opinion, I just don't think he is. I
definitely know that Cooper Rush is not. They're playing with
a second tier quarterback for the next four games.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
The Cowboys should.

Speaker 4 (01:45:29):
While there'll be a huge topic of conversation everywhere, sadly
probably here too, they're probably not gonna matter very much
longer to what really happens this season. They will be
playing spoiler. They will be trying to impact somebody else's season.
Their season will be done. In my opinion, I did
tell you this would happen, didn't I.

Speaker 3 (01:45:48):
I said it was gonna be boom or bust. And
I know that the injury is a thing. But they
sucked with Dak. He said it himself. We read his lips.

Speaker 4 (01:45:57):
Yes, this season. The previous three seasons they were elite.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
Yeah, but that's the prediction I made for this season.
I'm not disputing it. We're saying you're wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
Yeah, it was just I don't know I don't know
what's I don't know how I saw it coming.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
I just can't. I just don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
But yeah, it's going to be It'll be very interesting
offseason again there and again, like I said, it could
be worse.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
If you're upset about Nick Assario.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
You could have Jerry Jones as your owner and as
your GM, like Dallas does.

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of Say What, because the A's send out an email
this week and what do they want everybody to know
about their brand transition guidelines?

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:47:45):
No, you know, like when just down the road down
fifty nine, the university formerly known as Houston Baptist University
made a name change. They sent out a release you
know where you should now be referred to as HCU.
And if you make another reference to this, try to
do this. And we're the Huskies, you know, so they
are very similar. This extremely well run organization would like

(01:48:05):
to tell you, Uh, these are the guidelines for you
moving forward. And these all became effective November fourth, So
so far the two of us had have adhered to
them because we haven't talked about them at all, and
probably as soon as I stop, we won't start.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
This will be the last time ever.

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
You can only refer to them as the athletics moving forward.
Don't drop the O words, so they're not changing their name.
You may use a's on a second reference the city
that the A's playing.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
Do you know where they play right now or where
they will.

Speaker 4 (01:48:36):
Bela There are no games to play, so the city
that they currently plan would refer to their future season
Las Vegas that is incorrect. Sacramento that is also incorrect.
It's alike city also incorrect. The city the A's play
in is West Sacramento.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
Stop it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:55):
West Sacramento is what you should refer to.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
I want another name the A's.

Speaker 4 (01:48:59):
No, what's the guy's name so I can call him
right now on the show life and tell them what
a stupid memo this is now. The primary word mark
remains unchanged.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
Their primary word mark.

Speaker 4 (01:49:08):
Yeah, that's graphical stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
Not really appropriate here, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:49:11):
Applicable here. Their new primary logo is the Green A's
to be used moving forward. And they gave us the
name of their new ballpark at Cutter Health Park. They're
in West Sacramento. So when we talk about the Astros
Division and the up and coming team in West Sacramento,
we won't call them the West Sacramento Athletics. We won't

(01:49:32):
call them the West Sacramento A's. We certainly won't call
them the Oakland A's or Athletics. We'll just call them
the Athletics.

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
What kind of free agency hall are these guys going
to get this year? Between the minor league ballpark and
the stupid memos, their team is sending out for their
non in Vegas playing team that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:49):
Just moved on Vegas forever for quite some time. Las
Vegas would be silly there if you timed it out
so that you can even if you re upped on
the lease in Oakland for a couple of more singular
seasons before moving. But their relationship as we transition to another, say,
what is not like the relationship between Garrett Cole and

(01:50:14):
the New York Yankees front office. If it were, they
would have said, I know, we've been it's been acrimonious.
We've tried to get a deal, We've tried to move locations,
we've tried to keep the A's here, but now we're
moving to Las Vegas. But would you let us stay
here for four more years? If their relationship was as
strong as Cashman's and Scott Boris and Garrett Cole's relationship was,

(01:50:36):
they would say, sure, play all the games you want
here whenever your Vegas palace is ready. Move along, No
skin off our back. Our fans won't mind. This is
a great partnership. Maybe we can even cut you a
discount on playing games at the stadium. You're no longer
permanently and I'd love to do that. Garrett Cole did
opt out of his deal. We talked about that yesterday

(01:50:57):
and then without agreeing to any new money, including the
actual stipulations of what were required if he opted out
in order to remain a Yankee, they were not met. Essentially,
it was a power play by both sides that he lost,
and the Yankees are trying to not make everybody say
that like they don't want you, or we're supposed to

(01:51:19):
believe that they didn't kind of win.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
By the way, the only strong relationship that exists between
Garrett Cole and his you know agency, Scott Boris and
Brian Cashman is that Garrett Cole wanted to play for
the Yankees. Brian Cashman literally did nothing other than say,
all right, what are the figures that I can give

(01:51:43):
my owners money to you for since you already want
to play here? And I did no sort of convincing whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (01:51:48):
So there's thirty teams in Major League Baseball. Maybe some
have inherent advantages. Does that maybe make the GM job easier?
Should you maybe win more because your job is easier?

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
He should?

Speaker 4 (01:52:02):
I mean, I'm trying to be as nice as possible
for a team that brings players to their city just
by default because they're the Yankees, brings players to their
city because they spend more than everybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
Like that, It brings players to their city from other
teams that repeatedly beat them and then continue to beat
them even though they play. They brought said player from
that team in the case of Garrett Cole.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
And you have without winning the Big One for a
long time. Believe it's a fifteen year window. How's ever
one the best job security of all gms in baseball?

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
Why though, shouldn't you win more since you have endless resources.

Speaker 4 (01:52:42):
Everything We've said clearly the expectations are extremely high.

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
But they also didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:52:48):
Advance to the World Series prior to this year. For
that fifteen year period, they had more, they weren't just
losing in the playoffs. And again this year they just returned.
They didn't have very many non plays off seasons, but
twenty twenty three was one of them and they went
eighty to eighty. But yes, Scara Cole is remaining there
from free agency. I'm a little surprised. I know where

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we are right now in the calendar, and we just
passed the deadline for the exclusive window, which hardly ever
nets any signings. We're just out of it. Although you
could negotiate, you basically could have had all the fake
football conversations when guys are signing deals one second after
the moratorium, and those things are in place if they
need to be on the baseball side, But the GM

(01:53:30):
meetings going on right now, they're balancing all of these
things all at once. Then I don't think we're going
to see anything immediately. But I'm surprised we haven't seen
much more than really internal reups like what happened with
Waka and you know, declined options or options that were
picked up and players that get to free agency because
of it. I do think something of substance with a player,

(01:53:52):
probably not Alex Bregman, definitely not one so too, and
probably none of the players that i'd say in the
top ten or twelve of available free agents up should
be happening in the very very near future, like before
the end of the week. Something of significance. At least one,
if not three or four I think would have a
new home and money would be spent. So the hot

(01:54:12):
stove is it's not very hot. But again I recognize
you just walked in the kitchen. You just walked in
the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
I am a descember yet you just.

Speaker 4 (01:54:19):
Finished your meal. The season just ended. But I would
think something of substance, like I said, probably would be
on the horizon in the Veria.

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
And you know what's funny about that particular situation is
that if somebody is to go when all of a
sudden done like they you know, don't even make it
to the Alcs or whatever happens this upcoming year, maybe
they get off to a rough start. I don't know,
Wan Soto doesn't resign and so automatically you've got some
question marks. But Aaron Boone's going to be out the

(01:54:49):
door before Brian Cashman is Again.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
Not any time.

Speaker 4 (01:54:53):
It doesn't look like anytime soon because they keep having
seasons and they don't get the end game result. Successful, yes,
I guess, but not that kind of season that they clearly
continue to search for. They are the favorites to win
the American League as of right now, the Astros are
behind only the Yankees and the Orioles from an odds
standpoint in the American League. Best chance Oriols are getting

(01:55:15):
to a spot where you're like, why you have these odds,
you don't do anything ever. They just got here last year. Yeah,
two years. You don't do anything ever for two years.

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Speaker 7 (01:56:42):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
I've been noticing a pattern that's really really reared its
ugly head this year with regards to the NFL and
the team that has the best record, you know, the
only team that hasn't lost a game yet. They finally
look like the Chiefs that we know and love last night.
And uh, I mean even though it went to overtime
all that kind of stuff. That honestly, that's as much of.

Speaker 4 (01:57:04):
A testament to the Bucks as anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:57:08):
But so, you know, shootout whatever. By the way, I
hit the over five to oh.

Speaker 4 (01:57:12):
Five and oh okay, yeah, why didn't you update in
the thing, you know, the document?

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
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Speaker 9 (01:57:23):
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Speaker 4 (01:57:26):
So anyway, the Chiefs win last night and three late touchdowns,
three late touchdowns?

Speaker 2 (01:57:33):
Yep, okay, I'm doing what you do.

Speaker 4 (01:57:39):
I mean, they were totally back to normal dominated Thank goodness.
They scored twenty points in the final twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:57:45):
Look at Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (01:57:46):
They got line last night and then put it up
against every other game this year, all of which they've won.
And tell me it doesn't make a glaring difference. Yeah,
they played a crappy defense. Okay, well, so that's the
first crappy defense they played all year long, in eight games,
probably the crappiest. Well, they played other crappy defenses. I
guarantee it.

Speaker 4 (01:58:07):
Yeah, he got a better player. It's his best receiver
returned DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah, a best receiver was decided to
join it. I was told his best receiver was Travis
Kelcey all these years.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
But what receiver?

Speaker 4 (01:58:19):
It was being literal?

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
Well, I was being semantics guy, like you.

Speaker 4 (01:58:22):
I mean, did he did tie his second highest yardage
total of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:58:27):
Ok so he was awesome. Yeah he was normal.

Speaker 4 (01:58:29):
He did have his fifth highest yards per attempt.

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
And he didn't throw a bunch of picks.

Speaker 4 (01:58:34):
He did not throw a bunch of picks. He was
actually sacked more in this game than in any other
game all year and still somehow managed to Bruce's best
rating of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:58:41):
Well, the first thing I saw about the Chiefs where
I was like, Okay, people are complaining a lot. I
get it, Like people have Chiefs fatigue at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
This is what happens. Happened with the Astros, It happens with.

Speaker 4 (01:58:52):
Duke, Yankees, Astros braves same thing. They're too good. We
hate them.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
Yankees aren't good. Don't put them in there with the Astros.
That's inaccurate as much.

Speaker 4 (01:59:01):
If I think the Astros stole it for a few years,
they are the evil empire. Everybody loves to hate the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (01:59:06):
Get into the new millennium, at least get with the times.

Speaker 3 (01:59:08):
Yeah, so the first thing I saw, And again people
can like complain, but when they put proof out there, video,
the receipts, as they say, it's easier to see where
they're coming from. Have you ever like sat there and
watched the Chiefs game and realized how many times that
they false start jump early on the offensive line and.

Speaker 4 (01:59:28):
Don't it's an important late game touchdown drive. And it
happened yesterday only in that instance I've ever noticed it. Yeah,
they do it all the time. And you know, last
week the Texans got the worst crew of officials ever.
And I hope they don't get them for a third
time this year.

Speaker 2 (01:59:46):
To have them three times.

Speaker 4 (01:59:47):
Yeah, I hope, Like I said, I hope they don't
get them. Well, they got them twice in the technically
in the first half of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
That's a bad crew.

Speaker 4 (01:59:53):
Well, they don't allow four teams to do If that
crew worked last night's game, the Chiefs would have had
to do something differently on their final drive because they
would have called a penalty on their right tackle because
he moved very clearly early. He didn't need slow mo
to see it, You didn't need twelve officials to see it,
and you needed the one official to actually throw his
flag to the play. Well none of them, okay. And

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it's this isn't a Chiefs thing. This isn't a conspiracy
theory thing. This is a homeplate umpire thing. Where's the
strike zone today?

Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
Right?

Speaker 4 (02:00:25):
Who's officiating crew did you draw? Are they going to
call it today? Was that a laane violation?

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
Maybe? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:00:32):
If they decide to call it it is. It's not
that the teams aren't doing it. They are, and the
Chiefs are as big a culprit as anybody, But the
other twenty nine teams tackles also do it all the time,
and until the officials decide to call it all the time,
people are gonna keep getting pissed about it all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
But that's just one in a long list of things Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (02:00:55):
Related that people are upset about and this and that
part right there goes. You know, when they when they
beat Philadelphia in the Super Bowl, there was a late
non call that could have gone Philly's way that didn't
went the Chief's way. This kind of stuff, though, it
does it when you get the Evil Empire Moniker.

Speaker 2 (02:01:13):
It happens then, of course, you know, but.

Speaker 4 (02:01:15):
You only get it because you're awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
Well, okay, but I haven't gotten to all the things yet.
The Taylor Swift thing, I know you don't want to
talk about it, but it's still a thing.

Speaker 2 (02:01:23):
It's a fatigue chief.

Speaker 4 (02:01:25):
To the end of the break that I am dying
to talk about it. Keep going.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
We're not that close. More tailor, please, I can squeeze
a little bit more tailors left that.

Speaker 4 (02:01:32):
Game last night a good game. They showed her a bunch.

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (02:01:38):
Such an impact on my life or anybody else's none.

Speaker 3 (02:01:41):
That's your hero, not a that's your opinion. Others might
not like it as much as you don't care about it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:48):
They might not like it. It's not impacting them in any.

Speaker 4 (02:01:50):
Way, that's your opinion. They how am impacting them? Maybe
they're turned the game off. Maybe I doubt it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:58):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:01:59):
They turned the game off. I am a Chiefs fan,
I'm an NFL fan. I cannot I cannot watch because
they panned up to Taylor Swift for the thirtieth time to.

Speaker 3 (02:02:10):
You know what, you're at this point with the Chiefs,
all right, So that brings us to last night. It's
like just over seven minutes to go in the fourth
quarter and uh Pat Mahomes is scrambling and he throws
the ball out of balance.

Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
But it's just it's not just any throw lex It's
not what is it? This is incredible? He did it?
Wait for it? Are you ready?

Speaker 4 (02:02:30):
Are you sitting down still? People that are watching can
see he did it with his left hand, okay, and
something There's gotta be more to it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
No, No, that's that's what normal people.

Speaker 4 (02:02:41):
More to the story.

Speaker 3 (02:02:42):
Well, no, it was put on the NFL's Twitter account,
and obviously, obviously Joe Buck just went absolutely nuts over
it how talented it was. And the NFL's Twitter account said,
imagine if Mahomes was left handed.

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
And I don't really know.

Speaker 3 (02:03:00):
I know you like me to read emojis, but I
don't really know how to describe that one. It's like
the face is moving with the open mouth. I don't
know how to do it. The replies were just fantastic, though.
I mean, if you're one of those people that just
wants to hate the Chiefs because of any of these
things I've mentioned in More, you got your well, I

(02:03:23):
can't read some of these. A lot of glaze references.
There's a lot of that going on. Posting a throwaway,
please give up the gimmick. You probably type this with
your left hand, you weirdo. These are responses to the
NFL's Twitter account, and there's one about Joe Buck.

Speaker 2 (02:03:42):
That's not very nice. But the NFL rage baiting us
now is another one. I get.

Speaker 3 (02:03:48):
Like, I've got a family that loves the Chiefs. They're
in Kansas City, so they're not any of these things.
But even my mother in law has said, like with
the Taylor Swift thing, even she's a little tired of it.
She's got Taylor Swift cutaway fatigue. And she's a diehard
Chiefs fan.

Speaker 4 (02:04:03):
I she cares more than I do too, and it
doesn't I mean, I'm not gonna do anything. I'm not
gonna stop watching or stop being an NFL fan.

Speaker 2 (02:04:12):
I could do without him. But it doesn't matter that you.

Speaker 3 (02:04:15):
How when when, and it's it's fantastic, and it's obvious
that it's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (02:04:21):
Like the Saquon barking this week, it was a fantastic play.

Speaker 2 (02:04:24):
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (02:04:24):
He threw it out a bounds with his left hand.
There's nothing spectactic about it. There's nothing spectacular about that none.
If CJ did this, they wouldn't do that. CJ Strout
throwing the ball out a bounce, Well, he.

Speaker 4 (02:04:35):
Did it with his left hand, A good chance he
might need to this week, every week and for the
foreseeable future.

Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:04:42):
I had to go a long way to get to it, though,
Like again, how I I never even saw it. I
mean I saw the play. I didn't see the let's
go overboard social media tweet on it until you pointed
it out.

Speaker 2 (02:04:52):
You don't follow the NFL's site, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (02:04:54):
It says following next week.

Speaker 3 (02:04:56):
I think that's why people really because the fact that
the NFL site took that play, of everything that happened
in that game to highlight it, I think that's why
they're like, come on.

Speaker 4 (02:05:04):
Among the fifty tweets they sent out right but all
of those games, all of those were actual highlightable plays.
I guess Baker Mayfield unhappy at the coin toss. They
showed that they sent that out.

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
That was his own tweet.

Speaker 4 (02:05:18):
It was his own tweet.

Speaker 2 (02:05:19):
He should be unhappy. Where are we moving.

Speaker 4 (02:05:22):
Away from this? Football?

Speaker 5 (02:05:23):
Five?

Speaker 1 (02:05:23):
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Speaker 4 (02:05:44):
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(02:06:05):
we've had today, and this is football season, so it
stands within reason we would talk a lot of football.

Speaker 2 (02:06:09):
We will do so again here.

Speaker 4 (02:06:11):
The actual topic of conversation from last night's game, which
should have taken place but will now, is the football itself.
Why didn't you go for two at the end of
the game. If you're Todd Bowles, you're the average bucks.
They fall to four and five with the loss. You've
just marched down the field and essentially run a two
point play on the touchdown pass to Miller, and you're

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playing the Kansas City Chiefs in their building. The Chiefs
had four possessions in the fourth quarter. The first two
were very long touchdown drives. The last two were both
three and outs in a punt, including that very very
short possession right before their final punt and the clock
ran out. So maybe you felt a little good about
how you'd played defensively. But everybody knows what the rules

(02:06:55):
are in overtime, and I don't have any issue with
what they are, but I'm a little surprise some coaches
don't treat the first sixty minutes a little differently because
of what they are. If you lose the coin toss,
you can very, very easily lose the game because your
defense can't stop the other team. You don't lose it
because you lost the coin toss. You lose because your

(02:07:16):
defense can't stop them. That was the Chief's fourth drive
for seventy yards and a touchdown in the game. The
one possession in overtime, when they drove straight down the
field scored a touchdown game ends they win thirty to
twenty four. What do you have to lose besides the obvious,
which you ended up doing. Anyway, if you go for two,

(02:07:38):
you can win the game, or at the very least,
because there was some time left, you force them to
go down the field. It's not that hard anymore when
you get the ball at the thirty. Remember the first
play of that last drive for the Chiefs was a
nine yard game. Like you just kicked off. They ran
one okay play, and they're sitting at the thirty nine
yard line. Like that's how easy it is to get

(02:08:00):
in position to kick a game winning field goal or
try a game winning field goal.

Speaker 2 (02:08:04):
Because you're going to get the ball thirty.

Speaker 4 (02:08:05):
Most likely most teams are gonna kick off in a
way that doesn't allow for a return. They'd rather just
give it to them at the thirty than run the
risk of a big return versus the reward of getting
them inside the thirty twenty five to twenty whatever Todd
Bowles elected to kick, which again now is not as
easy as it used to be. I'm hoping sometime soon

(02:08:27):
Fantasy football commissioners or the league members will help them
realize penalizing a team for missing an extra point kick
when you hold that kicker three points is ludicrous. When
they are missing twenty two yard extra points. I still
thought it was dumb, but I understood it now. They're

(02:08:47):
missing moderately long field goal attempts to get one point
for your fantasy team, or you could lose three if
they miss it, as multiple kickers did this week. But nonetheless,
I've gone on on and on, and I asked you
a simple question, why don't.

Speaker 2 (02:09:02):
You go for two?

Speaker 4 (02:09:04):
Because you're afraid of being criticized after the game for
losing when you've battled fifty nine minutes and forty five
seconds to get to that point and or however long
how about your retort to any critics is we're on
the road at the Chiefs. Don't tell me anything about
the game. Just offer me this. I'll give you the

(02:09:24):
ball at the two yard line. If you put it
in the end zone, you win.

Speaker 2 (02:09:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:09:27):
Well, I'm not gonna tell the score. I'm not going
to tell you what happened. I'm not gonna tell you anything. Now,
you do have some of that information, but it's not
just about that. It's about the fact that the alternative
is you're not only Pat Mahomes is probably going to
get the ball in his hands again unless you can
score a touchdown all the way down the field. Well,
he's definitely getting the ball back after your extra point

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try with twenty seven seconds left less. Whatever runs off
when you kick off, it doesn't game necessarily, but it
puts you in front and if you fail, well then
you on sidekick. I was just talking about it in overtime,
but yeah, that was the thing about it. I'm not
even I don't It's not a cut and dry, it's
not a he made a huge mistake. I just don't

(02:10:10):
understand the logic from him in this situation with his team,
with what's taking place in the game. Well, why you
would not say, this is a really good opportunity with
Baker Mayfield, who is a massive playmaker, to just go
ahead and say, even with all the receivers that they
are missing, they've managed to just go in and score
their their touchdown, the third touchdown of the game. I

(02:10:31):
think that was just a prime opportunity for Again, they
could have walked out of there. Is the only team
in the league to beat the Lions or the Chiefs,
and they decided overtime was a better chance to win,
then just try to score on this one play was
going to overtime. It doesn't seem like that's a better

(02:10:51):
chance to win.

Speaker 3 (02:10:52):
It depends a lot of times when you're asking the
actual question you asked on what your personnel is, namely
your quarterback, you just sit there and tell me that
Baker Mayfield doesn't give you a decent to very good
shot to convert that two point conversion.

Speaker 2 (02:11:07):
I mean, I just don't believe that.

Speaker 3 (02:11:08):
Now, if it's a different quarterback, if it's a you know,
if it's the Texans offensive line, you know, maybe these
are things you take into considerationally.

Speaker 4 (02:11:16):
That's why I'm being very specific to this very game
in this very instance.

Speaker 3 (02:11:21):
I just I'm with you on this particular one. But
I am I am not that guy that's always like, oh,
you know, after every single instance of this happening.

Speaker 2 (02:11:30):
There's so many factors that go into.

Speaker 4 (02:11:31):
No question about it. Last night, I think it was
a really good opportunity for them to go ahead and
take that chance. If they missed, you go for the
on side kick, rather than say taking your chances in
overtime or like what ultimately, I mean, the Chiefs they
had to drive. They had to punt because they couldn't
get ten yards on the first three plays, and they
gave the ball back again the clock ran out.

Speaker 2 (02:11:53):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (02:11:54):
Lions are the only team that's lost to the The
only team that's beating the Lions this year is the Bucks.
They come to town next week to take on the
Houston Texans. Some in house media duties for Demiko Ryans
this week. He did meet with the media at large
on Monday, and he will do so again tomorrow. It's
a normal work week after they got back from their
weekend off. Usually does some in house media stuff either

(02:12:16):
on Monday or in this case, did so on Tuesday
to take care of business with what needed to be there.
So he was talking a little bit about ongoing issues
in game. It's pretty clear in game they're making mistakes.
Whether a couple of weeks ago it was more of
the formational false start, which for the most part has
not been a huge issue. Maybe there's one a game.

(02:12:38):
I think every team has won a game on average.
You can't have three, four five, you can't have four
five six of those two, which they did for the
Hockey League Crew game. But in game mistakes have been
an issue that he says, well, they're not permanent.

Speaker 2 (02:12:52):
They're all fixable.

Speaker 13 (02:12:54):
And that's the encouraging part about going forward, Like, man,
they're all fixable, right. We know we how to fit
the run, we know how to play it wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:13:01):
We gotta if of.

Speaker 13 (02:13:01):
Course, is gonna come on this week, we gotta be
more we gotta be more physical, we gotta set edges offensively.
Let's execute better, let's operate faster, and let's just keep
pressing forward, moving the ball forward.

Speaker 3 (02:13:14):
Everything's fixable, but the offensive line just doesn't. That just
seems like I know, we're talking about end game.

Speaker 4 (02:13:22):
Mistakes, myth assignments, penalties all apply. Yeah, and the focus
on the penalties was a big deal for a couple
of weeks. The focus on the missed assignments in miscommunication
and free rushers and just physically getting beaten, which I
don't I don't know that you'd call that a mistake.

(02:13:42):
It's unfortunate that the player being counted on to do
that job is unable to do it sixty times a game.

Speaker 2 (02:13:49):
I get how difficult it is.

Speaker 4 (02:13:50):
Maybe fifty five are are good snaps, and the five
bad ones, well we all saw them. It's like when
you get sacked three times, well you drop back forty
times you got sacked three times, Maybe focus on the
things you did do to move the ball down the field.
But if they're so fixable, there you got two options.
They get fixed or some sort of accountability is displayed

(02:14:11):
by taking someone out, spelling them, replacing them, benching them something,
and none of those things that really Again, it happened
briefly for Kenyan Green in game and then his replacement
got hurt.

Speaker 3 (02:14:25):
You think that part of the reason they didn't make
a deal today is because of that very philosophy. Just
it's fixable, it's coachable. It's we're hurting ourselves because they are.
I mean, they have hurt themselves all season long. Then
they've cleaned up a lot of the penalties aspect of
it lately. It's not to say they haven't gotten any,
but it's not like it was egregiously like against the

(02:14:45):
Vikings for example. But do you think the thinking in
that building, the brain trust collectively is we can coach
our way out of this. We can adjust to you know,
adjust mistakes our way out of this.

Speaker 2 (02:14:56):
As a team.

Speaker 4 (02:14:57):
Every coach thinks that honestly, truthfully and so I don't
doubt that they know. Every coaching staff does too. Gary
Kube I thought he could fix David Carr, so we
didn't take Vince Young. It's not a bad point. I mean,
at some point you gotta look at what's happening, though,
and you're not making any adjustments to it. That's why
we brought it up with Jonathan Alexander. They play calling.
They're not enough. I'm not gonna say zero, but there's
not enough adjusting to what's not happening. There's not enough

(02:15:19):
adjusting in any any way, shape or form there. Look
at what you have. Tell me it's if it's coaching, well,
then do something. It isn't gonna change, because that really
isn't the answer. If they were making none of these mistakes,
I'd be shocked. Every team has issues like this. Those
are just so much more pronounce because on top of that,
they feel like we have the right guys there. I

(02:15:41):
don't know how they can think that. How do they
think the five guys they have playing offensive line are
the right guys that if we fix the mistakes, we're fine.
I'm not sure how they can watch tape every week
and think that they might have the five best guys.
Where are currently.

Speaker 3 (02:15:56):
Anybody that that's not necessarily accurate? That's the problem. I
have a lot of times where and I get it
like Dimiko is in a tough spot because, like with
with the Kenyan Green thing, for example, he was clearly
adamant about Okay, let's not focus on the bad. Here's
some of the good, or why can't we focus on

(02:16:16):
some of the good things he's done.

Speaker 4 (02:16:17):
That's because he believes in the positivity of the coaching
job and the public nature of it. But you can't
I can't imagine him saying any of those things behind
closed doors. He can't know way he goes into offensive
line meeting and saying, hey, coach Strasser, focus stop telling
Kenyon he needs to do this and that. Focus on
the positives. I mean, he had fifty five good snaps.
Why are you focusing on the seven that he didn't
that all turned into negative place. Yeah, he's saying the

(02:16:40):
opposite in the meetings. He's pointing out the clear must
change nature. Bobby slow Ex said it out loud to
us because it wasn't a personal attack on anybody. It
was more it's on us to get it fixed. These
are the things we are working on. So it's such
a clear problem. Again, it's not about not addressing it today,
it's more about you're not doing anything to fix it
in general.

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Speaker 2 (02:18:29):
Earlier on mentioned a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:18:30):
About the Rockets getting a win last night over the
New York Knicks. I saw a report earlier I think
it was in the New York Post where the Knicks
are gonna have to uh, they weren't happy with how
Dylan Brooks defended Carl Anthony Towns last night and they're
gonna have to try and change things up. I only
bring that up because San Antonio is coming to town

(02:18:51):
tomorrow night. They will not be coached by Greg Popovich.
In case you didn't see that news, he had a
what they're calling it medical issue that was Syria and
he's out indefinitely right now. No details at least not
that I've seen him recently, other than just he's not
going to be coaching, and so they'll come into town
looking to go up to one on the Rockets in

(02:19:13):
the season. Series, and yes, they will have played three
games before November seventh, which is crazy to think about
three out of their four contests.

Speaker 2 (02:19:21):
And I don't when's the fourth and final matchup, like.

Speaker 4 (02:19:23):
March February twenty sixth. February Okay, So everybody knows that
I don't think they do well. I only know it
because I'm crafting a post on the X platform quote
suoitting Scham's that says San Antonio Spurs for Jeremy Sohan
has suffered a fractured left thumb that is scheduled to
have surgery this week. Sources tell ESPN. Sohan has made

(02:19:44):
a leap so far this season, averaging fifteen point four points,
seven point seven boards, and three assists. So my quote
sweet reads as follows. So with him out for tomorrow's
game versus the Rockets, next chance and last chance he'll
have to get into it with a Dockets player will
be February twenty sixth.

Speaker 3 (02:20:02):
He does like to get into it with everybody. He
and Fred van Vliet exchanging Christmas card addresses at the
end of the last game where the Rockets blew out
the Spurs.

Speaker 2 (02:20:12):
Yeah, that's a guy that it's weird. He's made a leap,
define leap.

Speaker 4 (02:20:18):
He has really good athleticism and can jump high. I
think that's clearly what he's trying to say.

Speaker 2 (02:20:26):
They're not a good team.

Speaker 3 (02:20:29):
I guess Chris Paul makes them more discipline slash interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:20:35):
But they're just let's just go ahead.

Speaker 4 (02:20:38):
Everybody played last night right, for the Spurs, for the NBA,
every time, Yeah, everything much. They played right. They actually
had the last game of the night.

Speaker 2 (02:20:44):
They they won.

Speaker 4 (02:20:45):
Oh they did, I think so wow. So by scoring
nine points less than the opponent, they put that in
the win column. Well, okay, yes, see, because they had
a twenty six point lead does not mean they won.

Speaker 3 (02:20:54):
That why I assumed they had won because when I
was going over the scores at the end of the game,
and I don't keep up with Spurs basketball because well
why would I.

Speaker 4 (02:21:03):
Your game ended and theirs didn't. You just that's it, whatever,
it doesn't matter. They add a twenty six point lead,
then they got outscored by thirty five points and lost
to James Harden. Norm Powell and the Los Angeles Clippers
outscored the Clippers forty to fourteen in the first quarter
and lost because they allowed the Clippers to outscore them

(02:21:26):
thirty four to sixteen in the second and thirty one
to eighteen in the fourth. That's a bad, bad basketball team. Yeah,
they were missing so high. Clearly he only played twelve
minutes before the injury. I'll go back to something guy
said during an earlier Spurs broadcast. I'm not saying Harrison
Barnes is a bad player. I think it's extremely bad

(02:21:46):
business to sign him and then play him thirty eight
minutes in a game so he can make a shot. Well,
you have other younger players who probably you'd want to
play more. I mean Keldon Johnson's one example of such player, Victor.
Of course, he fell shy of a triple double. He
only had nine blocks twenty four to thirteen, nine three steals,

(02:22:07):
all in a losing effort. Spurs are three and four,
Clippers also three and four. But the news about Sohan
is legitimate. They clearly are a better team when he
is out there. He has, I would agree, has made
a leap this year, basically playing the same number of minutes,
taking a couple more shots, making at a significantly higher clip,
and he's bumped up his scoring average quite a bit.
He'd better rebounder this year, he's taking care of the

(02:22:29):
basketball pretty much like he has. It's only seven games,
so he's definitely had a better start to this season
than either of the previous two. He is a miserable
three point shooter, and he's taking a lot less of them.
That is a smart thing to do.

Speaker 3 (02:22:44):
But the reason I brought this up is because if
we get last night's version of Alprin Shingoon, he's going
to destroy Victor Winbinyama because that's what he did the
last time he played like that against him.

Speaker 4 (02:22:54):
Yeah, he had a monster offensive game against Victor. I
think that's probably going to turn out to be a
an outlier the way he plays. If Victor gets smarter
and can take a little bit of the heat physically,
they're they're trying to bully him. They're trying to power
their way through him, which unless he's literally standing underneath

(02:23:16):
the basket, you can push him all you want. If
he's still on his feet, he can really impact Shngoon's
ability to score. To me, it's an okay strategy if
you're kind of trying to get him off the floor. Yeah,
but that's not to me likely your best bet to
attack the spurs. Well, you want to keep him away
from your other players, so he can't be a weak

(02:23:37):
side block machine. So you can't have a Men Thompson
going in there and getting a layup block. You can't
have Jabari Smith trying to tip one in and getting
that block. That's what you have to try to avoid.

Speaker 3 (02:23:45):
My thing with him and why I'm just not convinced
he's gonna be just like, oh my gosh, out of
this world is because in order for him to be this,
you know, finesse skilled big man allah Ralph Sampson, he
can't bulk up any more than he has. He just
can't because of his body type and all that. But
if he doesn't bulk up, then he might as well

(02:24:08):
just sit outside the perimeter and launch threes because he's
going to get abused to the.

Speaker 4 (02:24:13):
Point where he'll get hurt that way. In the post,
I really feel this. He's shooting fifty nine percent on
his twos. He's leading the league in block shots. Again,
that guy should shoot seventy percent on his twos in
his sleep because he should dunk over people.

Speaker 2 (02:24:26):
But he's not going to do that.

Speaker 4 (02:24:27):
Well a lot of his twos because he will probably
become a better shooter. Aren't right at the basket. They
aren't all paint points. They are all paint shots. They
probably should be, but he's also not going to get
any better at those other shots that he doesn't take them.

Speaker 3 (02:24:39):
Tomorrow night, the Rockets will dominate points in the paint dominate.
They did it last night, did they not against the Knicks?

Speaker 2 (02:24:47):
Dude? Karl Anthony Towns.

Speaker 4 (02:24:48):
Is awful defense usually, yeah, but he usually scores and
he wasn't doing that. I'm like, watch, They'll probably have
Dylan Brooks on Wimby because they don't respect him as
long as he's out there.

Speaker 3 (02:25:00):
Well, they respect him enough to put Dylan on him.
And again, Shane Gun's not a good defensive player. He's
whatever is worse than minus is what he is. He's
a rich man's Luis Skola. Is that a good way
to put it?

Speaker 2 (02:25:12):
Okay? Sure?

Speaker 3 (02:25:13):
I mean he has leaps and bounds, more offensive finesse
and touch than Louis Scolla.

Speaker 4 (02:25:18):
I think the points in the paint situation was the
last time they played Spurs and Rockets. Yeah, the Rockets win.
The Rockets won. They had the big lead, Spurs came back,
but they held him off.

Speaker 3 (02:25:28):
I don't I Any number I throw out there is
going to be ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (02:25:32):
The Rocks thirty five to twenty.

Speaker 4 (02:25:34):
The Rockets had thirty paint points, the Spurs had fifty four,
so the half of their points were in the paint.
While the Rockets shot there was one of their best
three point shooting games.

Speaker 3 (02:25:43):
What about the game before that when they played back
to back in the loss, which it felt like wouldn't
be the case because I feel like, if I remember before,
I angrily turned it off, the Spurs were hitting threes
from everywhere.

Speaker 2 (02:25:54):
Those must have been my game. That was your game.

Speaker 4 (02:25:56):
You can't just turn it off if you're there, right. Well, yeah,
points in the paint that game were fifty four to
forty two edge Spurs.

Speaker 3 (02:26:05):
Okay, Well you know what, after going through all this,
I don't care if they dominate them in the paint
as long as they win.

Speaker 2 (02:26:12):
How about that?

Speaker 7 (02:26:13):
I like that?

Speaker 4 (02:26:14):
I like that I win.

Speaker 2 (02:26:16):
Yeah, I did. Look, I don't think he's bad. I
don't think he's just a guy. But I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:26:21):
I'm just longevity and all that stuff. Super super still
in question with me. It's her two. He's in order
for him to be durable. I feel like he has
to get bigger, but I feel like if he gets bigger,
he's not gonna be durable for other reasons.

Speaker 4 (02:26:36):
Fully invested in what his health situation was as a
teenager playing overseas, but I can't recall any notable Oh
he's missing time for this, mean why basically healthy last
year against Well, I'm just saying the French dudes, you're
basing it on something we do have information on. It's
just on different players normally players like him physically, there

(02:26:59):
aren't that many because he's still Sampson's a good comp
but he's still to me, he's he's tall.

Speaker 2 (02:27:05):
Durant like Sampson. I don't get their football.

Speaker 4 (02:27:07):
He's not Yow and he's not you know, Mark Eat,
and he's you know, Chet's not to meet. Chet and
Victor aren't really the same either. I'm not sure where
the comparisons should be. Durant had a long stretch of
his career at the beginning of it that when he
and Harden and Westbrook never got hurt right for the
thunder and they went to the finals, yes, and then

(02:27:27):
he ran through a stretch where he was, you know,
catastrophically even that.

Speaker 3 (02:27:31):
You know, we talked about like, Okay, that's a good
example since the guy taken before him was Greg Odin.
Look at how those guys were walking going into the draft.
You could tell one was going to have a long
career and the other one was Greg Odin. Well he
was ninety yeah, going on one hundred and twenty. And
but like Kevin Durant, the way he just moves on

(02:27:52):
a basketball floor is completely different than even Wimby. There's
a and I get it, he's what seven inches taller
than him, but Wimby just he just looks like that
awkward guy. Like when Samson got hurt, it wasn't because
of a contact injury. Was it just started having knee

(02:28:14):
problems all of a sudden. Well it was like five
or six years in and the next thing you know,
he's traded to Sacramento or Golden State or wherever it
was in California.

Speaker 4 (02:28:21):
That doesn't matter. It's gonna fall in the ocean anyways.
And it's just that was it. You know, it was like, wow,
leave it at this. The Spurs will be one of
the five West teams outside of the playoffs again this year.
So the Spurs, Jazz and Blazers are of locks. M hm,
you got the other two Lakers.

Speaker 2 (02:28:38):
That's four. We got a look at the standings in
LA Clippers.

Speaker 4 (02:28:43):
There you go, that's five.

Speaker 5 (02:28:44):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (02:28:45):
I like that La James Harden and Chris Paul sitting
at home while the Rockets are in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:28:49):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (02:28:50):
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Speaker 4 (02:30:26):
You know, it's time to get you caught up on
a few autos we've not yet discussed fully or at all,
so we probably don't need to hit on the Texans
not making a deal today. Bring it on now, we
just told you that they did make a deal to
send somebody out. They got a seventh round pick in
twenty twenty six for defensive tackle Khalil Davis, So good
opportunity for Davis. Presumably if the Niners are trading for you,

(02:30:46):
they want to use you. He was kind of stuck
here where he was a limited rotation player. And with
everybody healthy, which will be the case hopefully soon with
the Edwards suspension, probably a pretty good situation for him.
But no players incoming for the Texans. Most everybody else
that you would consider serious competition in the AFC have
made over the last couple weeks or today some sort

(02:31:08):
of move they think enhances their ability to win. And
by the way, the Texas opponent this weekend Sunday Night
is the Detroit Lions. They acquired Zadarius Smith, probably defensively,
probably the most noteworthy move to be made. I like
Marshaun Lattimore a lot. He goes to Washington. I don't
know that he makes as much of an impact with

(02:31:29):
their defense as Smith might make with the Lions defense
starting the Sunday night, But we shall see.

Speaker 7 (02:31:35):
Nick Cassario had one job today one and he's usually
a very good GM. He does it good GMing, but
he whiffed Bigley. He did nothing for that line, and
he's not going to make CJ great again.

Speaker 4 (02:31:49):
Did you actually hear what that person you impersonated did
say about the NFL this week?

Speaker 2 (02:31:57):
Well, hang on, I have to ask.

Speaker 3 (02:31:58):
I need some clarific Is this one of his tweets
you dig up from like twenty twelve that applies to today?

Speaker 4 (02:32:05):
He was at his rally and made a comment about
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (02:32:07):
I did not. I don't think I did.

Speaker 4 (02:32:09):
Anyways, he said, I'm trying to remember what spurred it,
but he said, you know, he was talking about so
speaking of the or speaking of football, maybe the NFL
can drop that ridiculous kickoff bleep? What the hell is that?
I watched the game the other day and I said,
what the hell happened? They kicked the ball and nobody moves.
I can nowt forget who said it. I'll try just

(02:32:31):
take that quote.

Speaker 3 (02:32:32):
Okay, isn't that what like eighty percent of football fans
are saying about it this year?

Speaker 2 (02:32:37):
What is this?

Speaker 4 (02:32:38):
I think the initial this was a given. This would
be how it is received. But they won't change it
back because injuries and more health concern. They would change
it back if they're not seeing the kind of impact
from how many times is it getting returned?

Speaker 2 (02:32:51):
And it started very badly.

Speaker 4 (02:32:52):
It's slightly on the uptick, but it's still teams are
choosing what I thought I got one right during the offseason.
I said, teams are going to be too afraid of
the of the risk if we just kick it into
the end zone. Yeah, they can have the ball at
the thirty.

Speaker 2 (02:33:04):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (02:33:05):
I would rather do that than take the risk of
not knowing what these kick returns might look like and
give him a chance to haul off and get a fifty.

Speaker 2 (02:33:12):
I can I can just hear him.

Speaker 3 (02:33:14):
It's one of those times where he like mutters to
himself when he's just kind of almost talking to himself,
even though there's a crowd of people in from.

Speaker 2 (02:33:20):
What the hell is that? I can't believe it there was.

Speaker 4 (02:33:24):
I would imagine there are some other items to get to,
some very important items to get to here.

Speaker 12 (02:33:28):
And in case you missed it, yeah, like one local
GM did talk today because the Major League Baseball General
Managers meetings are happening in San Antonio.

Speaker 2 (02:33:35):
It's Dana Brown and.

Speaker 12 (02:33:37):
kPr C two's Ari Alexander, as well as other reporters
from the area, caught up with Dana of course, what
was topic K. What is going on right now with
Alex Bregman.

Speaker 8 (02:33:47):
Yeah, a lot of discussions will stopped, multiple conversations, so
I hope that there been productive and well.

Speaker 2 (02:33:58):
Some good things. I think, really good chance.

Speaker 12 (02:34:03):
All right, there you go, a really good chance, he
continues by being asked why he believes that the Astros
can keep pregnant.

Speaker 8 (02:34:11):
On mindset right now is that he's not going elsewhere
and that we want to sign him. So if he
ends up going elsewhere, across that bridge when you get there.
But I'm going into this offseason rest with the thought
process that we're gonna get pregnant dot hopefully so'll gonna
weep enjoy it. And as I said, you know, the

(02:34:32):
conversations Scott have been form.

Speaker 3 (02:34:35):
So A it's kind of it's weird, that's what he
should be saying. But just by based on what you
sort of heard there, the audio quality wasn't great. Those
aren't the typical GM speak responses to that question. They
seem genuinely convinced they've got a good shot, or it's

(02:34:56):
a better than average chance, or at least it's not
We're just gonna give him a qualified offer and hope.

Speaker 2 (02:35:01):
For the best.

Speaker 4 (02:35:01):
Our listeners should be very in tune with this. His
appearances every week on Sean Salisbury Show with Sean and Brian.
This is what he does. This is how he speaks
on types of things like this. Contractually, he spent an
entire off season saying similar things about are you going
to try to reach an extension with this player? How
do you feel about the opportunity to get something done
with him? He talked supremely confidently about getting those things

(02:35:26):
in place. You know, ultimately there's a deal in place
with Christian avier An no deal for Valdez or Tucker
or Bregman, obviously, but the manner in which he answered
those questions I would take from it probably the one
thing that's I'm sure is accurate that they feel like
the conversations with Scott Boris regarding Alex Bregman were productive,
that they're moving forward with discussions because there's a reason

(02:35:49):
to there's no halt, there's no we're not anywhere close,
or we don't have any reason to continue that. I
believe that part of it is true. And if you
did not hear it, clearly he said we are mindset
is he's playing for us. We're going to retain him.
We're going to come to an agreement. We're acting like
this is our third basement of the future. We're going
to do what's necessary to make sure that happens. He said,

(02:36:10):
we would cross the Bregman list bridge when we get
to it. His mindset is they're not going to get
to it.

Speaker 2 (02:36:16):
That he will be back.

Speaker 4 (02:36:18):
It remains to be seen, but yes, a supremely positive
vibe from Dana Brown.

Speaker 12 (02:36:24):
One more and on the front of Dana Brown. The
John Morossi thrown this out on Twitter earlier, saying that
he was going to speak with Justin Verlander's agent about
a possible free agent contract sometime today.

Speaker 4 (02:36:37):
We mentioned yesterday on a just a list that was
put together of possible contracts that you might see in
front of these free agent players. He was a one year,
twelve million dollar projection, totally off the cuff and could
be nowhere near it. But I think a very very
short term deal, one that doesn't hurt you on into
the future if you don't get from him what you expect.

Speaker 2 (02:36:58):
Could be This true for any team.

Speaker 4 (02:37:00):
I think every team that's in contention is somebody he
might be considering he did go to New York to
play with the Mets, came right back to Houston to
play with the team.

Speaker 2 (02:37:07):
He really felt good about being.

Speaker 4 (02:37:09):
A part of I'm sure that didn't change. I don't
think what happened in the postseason has any impact on
what he thinks in the future, you know, not being
on the playoff roster. I think he's a realist about
his performance. He's pretty hard on himself, but he knows
what the results were. The results dictated it. Astros didn't
come out of left field and say, well, I don't
really think we can use it here in Detroit. We

(02:37:30):
were against Detroit. We just think we have to go
in a different direction for this particular series.

Speaker 3 (02:37:36):
That what this comes down to is what and they
know better than anybody because they've had him longer over
the latter stages of his career than anyone else has
except for that one half season in New York. What
are you getting with Justin Verlander? Even if you get
him for whatever, you know, discount, cheap, whatever you want
to call it, that's fine. The names on the back

(02:37:57):
of his jersey, What are you getting on the mound?
Because you couldn't even rely on him towards the end
of the year. Now if you rushed back from injury
and he has something left in the tank. But it's
not like he was just overwhelmingly great when he was
healthy this year.

Speaker 4 (02:38:10):
Yeah, pre injury, although that's technically also post injury. Remember
he didn't start the year til April nineteenth because he
was already hurt. But for April, so the early portion
of June, he gave you ten starts out of three
ninety five ERA batting average against was only two forty
two ops was seven thirty three. That's acceptable for a
member of your starting rotation. I don't know if you

(02:38:32):
want it from him at that monetary level, but they
also had probably a different idea now about what do
you go into the season with some options so you
don't get pushed up against it. By the way, is
the ra after the injury was eight ten.

Speaker 3 (02:38:48):
I told you it's gonna be five, not great. So
we shall see. We've got one more segment to go
here on a.

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Speaker 2 (02:39:23):
Hey, what are you doing after the show tonight?

Speaker 4 (02:39:26):
Wex I'm gonna see how easy the road for the
Longhorns is to the National title game? What are you
gonna do?

Speaker 2 (02:39:33):
What do you think I'm gonna do?

Speaker 3 (02:39:35):
I'm gonna get inundated with Yeah, well I'm definitely gonna
do that. You meant that starving?

Speaker 4 (02:39:39):
Was that an election question?

Speaker 2 (02:39:40):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (02:39:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:39:41):
Is that today?

Speaker 7 (02:39:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:39:43):
It is a little different from many of us who
take advantage of the opportunity to not wait until today
to vote. I early voted for the first time in
my life. Couldn't have been any easier, right, Well, yes,
it couldn't have been.

Speaker 3 (02:39:56):
But that's the thing. Like I saw I think tweeted
this today. She said, if you have the opportunity to
vote early, why would you ever vote on election day?
And there's a couple of reasons.

Speaker 4 (02:40:07):
There's some real reasons.

Speaker 2 (02:40:09):
Well, what if like a tornado hits or something of
that nature in.

Speaker 4 (02:40:12):
Your area and thus, yeah, yeah, definitely something just bank it.
That's definitely you could also have it rate the you know,
the candidate related you know, there's they're still campaigning all
the way up until yesterday basically so early this morning,
it was there really something that you think could be said,
can be done that might change your mind. I mean,

(02:40:33):
you want to see every possible commercial you can. You
want to receive every possible text begging you for money
that you can get.

Speaker 3 (02:40:41):
Have you ever watched a political campaign commercial that made
you say, you know, I was on the fence or
I was the other way, but now that I've seen that,
now I am going to vote for that person.

Speaker 4 (02:40:53):
Truthfully, there have been occasions where I've seen something in here,
this particular ad wants to give you this, and well
I want to I have gone and looked up Well,
I want to know more about that. I want to
know why they're saying this. I want to where they're
getting that from. I want to you know, it's just
some basis for it, not so much challenging it. But
that's something that I did want to know more about.

(02:41:13):
Maybe it was for them, but more likely it was
against the other person. It's a very little look how
good I am versus It's not really about how good
I might be as the candidate. It's about how you
just don't want the other person. That's definitely a lot
of how it is. And again, however it gets your
message across, that's fine. I think the message we have
tried to portray here briefly over the last couple of

(02:41:35):
weeks and the four years ago and four years before
that and four years before that is the main message
I think is the simplest one.

Speaker 2 (02:41:41):
Just vote.

Speaker 4 (02:41:42):
Just take your obligation or your opportunity, I should say, seriously,
and not only try to vote, but try to vote
with as much information as you can get. And it
doesn't all come from commercials and advertisements, and I endorse
this ad There are ways that you can get more
information about the candidates. There's more to this race or
this day than the president of the United States. There's

(02:42:03):
a lot more to it with what impacts the state,
what impacts our very close community, what impacts your I mean,
there's people in Houston. Lots of people in Houston voted
for a bunch of stuff I didn't vote for because
of where they live in Houston. There's so much more
to it that hopefully people are enjoying the fact that
we live in a country that allows them to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:42:23):
Yeah, no, that's the best part of it.

Speaker 3 (02:42:25):
But I don't know, I just, I just you don't
strike me as the type that's going to be sitting
in front of the idiot box for the next eight hours,
just waiting to see what's what.

Speaker 4 (02:42:39):
More of what I do if I'm watching that is
I'm literally paying attention to the crawl, maybe more so
than what they're saying. Every time they make a trip
to someone's campaign headquarters, it's just filler. Unless it's at
the end of the night. There's nothing, not a whole
lot to it. It's a tough job that night for
covering the election. You clearly also want to wait till

(02:42:59):
the moment to call it. I don't want to say
that too soon, And usually you're waiting for a candidate
to concede, which means you're probably in the clear at
that point. More on the local side, yeah, I mean
eventually a presidential candidate will do the same. Yes, I
got a phone call from so and so, and then
here we go.

Speaker 2 (02:43:21):
I just like it's gonna be wild. I think it's
gonna be wild.

Speaker 4 (02:43:24):
I mean each election, many shows of poked. This is
the most important election, well since the last one.

Speaker 2 (02:43:31):
Of our lifetime.

Speaker 4 (02:43:32):
I mean until the next one, right right, They're all
very important, and this one is as the last one
was as the one before that one.

Speaker 3 (02:43:38):
So in that vein, you're gonna go look at the
Longhorns path to Uh yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:43:43):
The college football Playoff rankings come out for the first time,
and they are new this year because two teams that
play in conference is weaker than the other two are
going to get an automatic top four seed and the
other eight teams these I mean, I think Heather Dinnich
is one of the best covering college football and just
happened to see her projections yesterday and the ones she's
been talking about throughout the day. There are some teams

(02:44:04):
that are gonna land in the We have to play
the opening week and then we've got to go play
one of the conference champions the next week, and their
road to the Semis is like a cakewalk. I think
I have almost no respect for Indiana, and maybe I'm
in the minority, but I like that they hammer every team.

(02:44:24):
That should be a good thing, and it is. These
conferences are so big you actually can't just look at
their Oh who did they play a non conference this year? Oh,
it's so weak they need to win some comp They
didn't play anybody in the conference. It's the easiest possible schedule.
Texas isn't that much different. I definitely think they had
a favorable schedule, but they also played arguably the best

(02:44:45):
team in the country. Now, they didn't beat them in Georgia.
But the road to where Indiana sits today, I would
I mean, I can't even I'd love to eat my
I'm okay with eating my words down the road if
the Longhorns draw the Hoosiers in the opening game and
they don't win. But I just I can't commit to saying, Man,
the Hoosiers are really really good.

Speaker 2 (02:45:06):
I don't know. They're not a basketball team there.

Speaker 4 (02:45:11):
They're playing the worst teams in the conference week after weekend.
By the way, there was a first. I don't know
if you saw this note what was the first the Aggies.

Speaker 3 (02:45:19):
Yes this week, Yes, they became the first ranked school
to ever have two different crowds in two different sports
storm the field, slash court on the m and a
span of only three days. Both opponents were unranked. You
had USC beating the Aggie football team or the basketball team.

Speaker 4 (02:45:37):
Don't say USC, I know we're in the South. But
that's just ridiculous to me. I'm actually Carolina beat them.
I'm actually reading the tweet, and that is on me.
I should I should have prepared this better.

Speaker 3 (02:45:50):
South Carolina beating the Aggies and they were ranked tenth
at the time, and then uc F. I don't think
there's any confusion about what school that is beating number
thirteen Texas A and M in basketball.

Speaker 4 (02:46:00):
Texas A and M is going to have a really
good basketball season. The college basketball season opened up on
Monday yesterday. They lost by three in that game, had
a couple of chances to tie it and didn't. I
did see a few people saying, what's new an early season,
disappointing start from Buzz Williams team. But they're going to
be very good and it's a disappointing game. I don't
know if it's a disappointing start. Couger started their season

(02:46:22):
last night for Teita Center against an opponent that did
not have a chance to compete against them, and they
the scoreboard reflected that now that they have a game
against Auburn on this weekend, over it to Toyota Center,
Auburn is ranked, Auburn is good and I think the
Cougars are going to handle them to Jabari Smith Junior's dismay.

Speaker 2 (02:46:46):
Do you think he's even watching?

Speaker 4 (02:46:47):
Yeah, Saturday, they play Friday, Yeah, he'll be watching.

Speaker 2 (02:46:53):
Sometimes.

Speaker 3 (02:46:53):
I wonder about that, how much they keep up with
their alma mater and for how long, and how if.

Speaker 4 (02:47:00):
He wasn't so awesome he'd still be there.

Speaker 2 (02:47:03):
He really was awesome in other night against the Warriors.
Last night was kind.

Speaker 4 (02:47:06):
Of a dud, I would agree, But he's still young. Yeah,
Jalen had a bad shooting night until the fourth quarter clutch.
Jalens has been around this year quite a bit, and
last night was a good example of that. Not caring
at all that he was not having a good shooting game,
put him out there in the fourth quarter and he
was nails. They needed it, they got it, They got
the win. Very good stuff from them. They've got Spurs tomorrow.

(02:47:28):
They've got Oklahoma City on Friday night to around out
this latest week of the season. That will be games
eight and nine. They sit at four and three. Texas
will be back on the field tomorrow. Get a little
bit of a line on what their health situations are
as they get prepared for the Detroit line. All the
new players they added in trade will also be attending
tomorrow's practice trade away.

Speaker 2 (02:47:50):
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