Texans Still Short-Handed, Lions Reporter Justin Rogers Joins Show and Whats Up With That

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam Talking Your Teams series,
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team A Team.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good afternoon, Houston, Texas. It is the A Team. Sports
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all of the things.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
There are so many things going on right now. I am.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I had a very interesting conversation earlier today, one of
those you run into somebody they either already know or
find out what you do, and then immediately the conversation
goes to one of the big, big, big talking points
in Houston sports at this very moment. So I will
definitely share that because I thought his take on that
subject was very very interesting. First and foremost the Houston Texans.

(00:59):
I had another body of mine that said, Hey, I
have two spare tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
To the game.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm looking to get rid of them before I post.
There are yours if you want them, here's where they're located.
Blah blah blah blah blah. I passed on them, said
go ahead and post them. And he's a Detroit Lions fan,
which is why he's going to the game, and I
went ahead in no uncertain terms and told him what
I've been telling you for days on end, I think
it's going to be a very very long night for
the Texans. And if any of the things we are

(01:25):
hearing today or any indication, it could be even well
more of a long night.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
For the Houston Texans.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
What if I were to tell you that a very
very difficult proposition of beating what I consider the best
team in all of the NFL, playing the best football
at the moment, is going to be a situation where
you're without Nico Collins and Will Anderson Junior. Now you,
I think you have been way less confident that he
was going to play this week than I have.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
This is the first one of them, Niko.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, but this is the first day where it's like,
all right, now, he's a long shot. You're hearing that
kind of terms used about him possibly being in the lineup.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, but that's pure hundred percent speculation for I don't
even know who you heard that from or where you're
hearing that, but that's pure speculation. I can give you
the facts. The facts are is not practicing because they
haven't opened up as practice window. The facts are is
still on ir. The fact is they don't have any
more practices that matter before Sunday's game with the Lions.
They have a Friday practice, and I'm not trying to

(02:23):
tell you it doesn't matter, but they don't really practice
on Wednesdays and Fridays. There If I could be mistaken,
but I think this is accurate. I think zero point
zero percent of the Texans players where the Guardian caps
at Wednesdays and Friday's practice I saw. I lost count
on how many Guardian caps I saw being worn today

(02:43):
at practice because they're different, because you practice with real
football intent on Thursdays. As Dimiko has explained many times,
it doesn't mean he can't play, doesn't mean he won't play,
just means they have not done the things that you
would normally expect them to do for a player that
they want to see if he can play. Especially since
we have two other players in the identical boat, except

(03:04):
they're on the boat headed towards Sunday night's game. Nico
Collins has not left the dock yet. Jeff Akuda and
Jerry Hughes. Their practice window is open. They are practicing
and they will have the opportunity the team will have
the opportunity to activate them if they so choose, and
with other injuries and other situations at their respective positions,

(03:24):
they very well might do so. It's just Nicocollins. The
reports about his health have all been good. He is healthy,
he is trending in the right direction. He hasn't had
any setbacks. He could be healthy enough to play, but
you also have to consider how many more games are
left and this type of injury. If he had a

(03:44):
shoulder injury, I doubt he even would have gone on
IR even if it took three to five weeks to heal,
he probably could have found a way to play through it,
kind of like Ceedee Lamb. This is a hamstring injury.
Playing through it means you're never gonna be healthy and
probably running the risk of missing way more time in
the long run of the season if you keep going

(04:05):
out there, And that might be why the Texans decide
it's in the team's best interest, it's in Nico's best interests,
it's in the offense best interest, it's in CJ's best interest,
and it's in their general manager's best interest of course,
to have Nico Collins not return for the Sunday night
game and rather take another full week plus one day

(04:26):
before they play Monday night football in Arlington against the
Dallas Cowboys. I'm purely speculating, but those are the facts
of the situation as we sit here. Today. Was over
at practice today, Nicos, I'm sure in the building. He
was not at practice and he didn't participate in practice.
And same for Damian Pierce. He is not on ir
but he is not expected to play on Sunday. The
four running backs they will have should they decide to

(04:48):
have all four of them up, and it'll probably just
be three. Are the three active players besides Pierce that
are on the roster, Mixon, Dare and JJ Taylor. A
couple other injury concerns seem to be shaping up in
the right direction. Jimmy Warren as he's al shaier of practice,
I imagine the practice report today will say in full

(05:08):
and if not, I don't think it's an impact on
what we'll see tomorrow. I think they're both playing. I
think their defense unfortunately got healthier at two spots while
getting unhealthy at another. And we focus so much on
Nico's return, Will Anderson not being out there is at
least as big, if not more so, because you're trying

(05:30):
to stop that offense and you're now going to do
so with at least one of your two best pass rushers.
I think he's had a remarkably strong season, but I
think Daniel Hunter has also. Derek Barnett was a back
at practice today, But Will Anderson not practicing today means
I won't be surprised at all if unfortunately, tomorrow they

(05:50):
say he did not practice and then he's listed as out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I know that no one ever ever feel sorry for
any other team when they start piling up injuries. That's
the name of the game in the NFL. It's just
something that we deal with every single year. And I again,
we're we're not in a situation here like the Cowboys
are next week's opponent where that team's dealing with their

(06:15):
quarterback being out. By the way, that injury is maybe
even worse than we already thought it was.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
So but it's just it's.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Really annoying when you're already having to deal with the
offensive line situation, and then on top of that, you
just it feels like you just keep taking ways to
help your team win, big ways to help your team
win and saying, all right, they're not gonna be going
for this game.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
They're not gonna be going in this competition.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
And it's just especially in a game like this, you know,
not that not that if Will Anderson had been there
for the entire game or whatever, that it would have
made it, you know, easier on a night where you
just couldn't get the offense rolling against the Jets, but
coming in against a Detroit team that's just you can't.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
You basically got to play a perfect game right now,
eat them.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I really do feel like that I have that much
respect for what they're doing this season, and they're not
even whole. They got their best pass rushers out for
the rest of the year in all likelihood, So I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
It's to me.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I'm starting to have to like get used to it,
but not the best news that I wanted to hear
on a day like today. Thursday is kind of typically
that magical day. I know it's a later game, but
it doesn't really matter. It's a Sunday. It's still Sunday.
It's like it's Monday, which actually would matter.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, if we had this game at noon, he probably
wouldn't be able to go, but since it's a night game,
we do have the additional seven hours and twenty minutes
to ser heel up.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Do you think there's ever been an injury of some
magnitude that has been held handled like that.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
I think illness only, like if somebody waks up sick
or if they're sick in the middle of the day,
where yeah, if this game was at noon, those are
no way Tavs could take effect that kind of thing, certainly.
I mean Deebo Samuel a couple of weeks ago. Anything
like that. An injury you probably when they tell us
game time to sitis more often than not, it really isn't.

(08:03):
But when they say we're going to work him out
and you see the workout. I mean last week it
happened with the Commanders. Brian Robinson Junior, their lead tailback
basically had been trending to be available coming off of injury,
and they said, well, things look good, and you know,
we think he'll be able to go or work them
out before the game and then hopefully, well he'll be good.
And they worked him out and there were a lot

(08:23):
of reporters there that I saw a bunch of video
and they obviously commented on it. Even they thought, this
doesn't look very good. It doesn't look like he should
be out there. It doesn't look like he's ready. And
then they made him inactive and he didn't play, so
that was a truthful is a game time decision and
game time decision the NFL means it's a game time

(08:43):
decision ninety minutes before the game when we have to
make it because you got to put the inactives out
ninety minutes before they go.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
This is also the reason why, and you know we
do it every year because we can't help ourselves. And
it's it's like a it's like one of the many
dates on the sports calendar that kind of come off
as like a Christmas type scenario. You know, when the
NFL schedule comes out and you start looking at the
games and you're you're first of all, doing the biggest mistake,
which is basing it on the year before when there's

(09:10):
so much change that happens, and said, you know, turnover.
But like this is why when you look at a
game like next week, for example, Dallas Cowboys, Well, when
you first see the schedule, oh Man, C J. Stroud,
Dak Prescott, Michael Parsons. You know, Nico Collins, that's gonna
be awesome. Dak Prescott's not going to play that game.
We're not even guarantee the Nico Collins is going to

(09:30):
play that game at this point.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah. The NFL put out a graphic today with five
awesome quarterbacks. You know who's the mid season MVP of
the NFL? And even I was thinking about what you're
saying when I quote tweeted it and said, well, the
Texans are playing four of these five quarterbacks all but
Jalen Hurts. And when I was listening to three remaining
because they've only played one of them, Josh Allen and

(09:52):
the Bills, I said, you know, Texans beat Alan Coma Bills,
Texans will play lying com A golf, because I don't
know that beyond golf, I'm pretty sure he'll he'll be
healthy Sunday. We see the Chiefs on the Texan schedule.
We see the Ravens on the Texan schedule, And if
you're listening closely, that means Alan Hurts, golf, Mahomes and Jackson.

(10:15):
Where the five quarterbacks they had on the graphic Asking
who the MVP is mid season? He answers Lamar Jacks.
But I assume they'll be healthy at that point in
the season, but we don't know that until we get there.
Just like you're talking about with Dak Prescott Cowboys, Dak
Prescott's better than Cooper Rush. The Cowboys can win football
games without Dak Prescott if they get a good quarterback play.

(10:39):
I mean, I know that sounds well, yeah, duh, But
that's why I think their team is as well at
least as well equipped as the teams that care about
their backup. But I'm not trying to tell you that
Cooper Rush has got some great resume as a number two.
But I think they're in perfectly fine position to continue
running the offense the way they want to run it,
doing the things they want to do. I don't know

(11:00):
if Zeke is going to be a discipline problem for
another week. I presume not, not that he helps them
a whole lot, and Michael Parsons is expected to return
this week. We'll get to the Cowboys Texans after we
find out if either one of them have a four
and the column they can get one in. Cowboys sitting
at three wins could be four, Texans sitting at three
losses could be four.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
It probably will be four, unfortunately. Yeah, so that's how
we get things started. Here on a Thursday edition of
the A Team Sports Talk.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Hey, it's Blommer.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
The eighteen continues with Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler. There's
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Speaker 1 (11:48):
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Speaker 4 (11:50):
Right now, baby's got those hot takes.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
So you all heard it yesterday when our signature segment
four thirties eachoud every weekd afternoon here on the eighteen,
I forgot what do we talk about? We talked about
papers that you don't want to fill out because it's
just busy work. It's much ado about nothing. So that's
what we talked about, and we got a little ranty
about it. Can I tell you something about that real quick? Yes? Please,

(12:19):
sorry to interrupt. No, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I was just trying to be like, you'll keep it tally,
you'll be way behind. I was actually talking to somebody
today with the Texans Organization. Hey too, I'm going to uh, well,
I'll just tell you, uh, I'll just tell you what
I said about that situation.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
I said.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Casario's trade deadline comments sent me into an on air
rage yesterday. That line is going to get CJ killed.
That's an exact quote from Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
By by the way, the comment you're referring to was
said to the Texans in house media, so that's where
it emanates from. I think a lot of people have
heard it throughout the day here on the Sean Salisbury
Show with Sean and Brian and the Matt Thomas Show
with Ross earlier today, and it was a little concerning
again to say that in that setting. I don't think

(13:10):
that Nick didn't make any phone calls. I don't think
that Nick just declined to make a deal that made
sense because he didn't want to fill out the paperwork
and have contact with the league office because he was
just so busy he didn't want to bog himself down
with it, even though that's essentially what he said. Dimiko
Ryan spoke on Wednesday and he was asked a similar

(13:30):
question and also had an opinion about the deadline in general.
And I think every deadline, especially the last few, has
really started to change how we should look at the
NFL's trade deadline comparing it to other sports. For many
many years was silly because it's just so different comparing
trades in football to trades and other sports. Also, I

(13:51):
think very very silly baseball in particular, with the lack
of draft capital attached to trades for basically forever. And
now there's a small part of that that can be
included in a basketball sense. You got eight or nine
guys on your team and a bunch of worthless second
round picks. I mean, those deals are clearly not apples
to apples if you're comparing them to the NFL. But

(14:12):
over the last handful of years, more players of consequence
have been moved and teams needing to fill clear holes
have been able to go out and do that, maybe
at the expense of talent, maybe at the expensive assets
they could have used in the future, and certainly meaning
they might need to do some salary cap gymnastics. But

(14:33):
you know, right off the top of everybody's head, who
was paying attention to this trade deadline, I could ask
five people and they might give me five different answers
on an impact player that was moved to a team contending,
an impact player that was likely pulled off of a
team that isn't contending, the Texans will see one of
them on Sunday Night. With Zadarias Smith as a huge

(14:53):
hole in the Lions defensive front they're trying to fix.
The Commanders are not on the Texans schedule, so they
won't see Marshaw Lattimore until the Super Bowl. He was
moved from the Saints to Washington. Well, you are confident
that isn't well. I mean, if they buy tickets and
attend the Commanders, it's a pretty impactful move. I think,

(15:14):
certainly based on the talent, we don't need to guess
if DeAndre Hopkins is an impactful move for the Kansas
City Chiefs. That was on full display as he caught
a pair of touchdown passes and was the key wide
receiver target throughout that entire football game, where the Chiefs
offense definitely looked a little bit different, a little bit
more successful. Scoring three touchdowns in the fourth quarter and

(15:34):
overtime on their five possessions ought to be evidence of that.
And like I said, there's three four other guys I
think we could all name what we'll maybe get to
see the answers on those players as some of these
deals that were just made put the players on the field.
But Tamiko Ryan's opinion on all that, I don't think
is all that different than Nicks And I don't actually
think it's all that different than mine. It's just said

(15:56):
a little bit differently. And this is Tamiko said about
the deadline, and yes the word savior is used as
he gives his explanation.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
We have the guys we have. I mean, everybody thinks
the trade day line comes and you're gonna just, you know,
find this guy who's gonna save your team, don't. I
don't see it that way right. Transactions were made across
the league, and there has to be two parties available
to do a trade. Everybody's antsy about trades. It's not

(16:26):
just us going and taking somebody from another team. People
have to be available and people the trade has to
be on good terms for everyone. So I know everybody's
in an uproar about us trading at the deadline. It's
like it's not from a lack of us working to
get our team better and improve our team, but there's

(16:46):
no savior coming to save our team.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
And there has to be two parties involved in trading.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
So that's funny because I thought C. J. Stroud was
the savior of the Texans organization already. Hear that right,
So there's not an additional one coming.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
That's that's almost doing it disservice to the other two guys.
At least they added them all in the same offseason.
Dimiko's not the savior. Will Anderson's not the savior.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
He's the culture savior, Demiko, and Will Anderson is the
He's the pass rush saver savior.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, what he said, though, does I know it sounds
a little different coming from me for four hours versus
Demiko in a forty five second sound bite, But quite honestly,
I do think it's very very similar. I'd never expected
them to find a savior for the only part of
their team that needs saving. That's the offensive line. I
never expected that. And as you watched the trade deadline
unfold and even the weeks before it, there was essentially

(17:36):
one competent or one difference making potentially offensive lineman moved
And it wouldn't have even happened had Minnesota not lost
Christian Darisol but Derisol, they are their Super Bowl contender,
They did not have a left tackle on their roster.
They felt comfortable going to long term for the remainder
of the season. So they found a team that stinks. Shockingly,

(17:57):
they looked at the AFC South to find them and said, well,
take your okay tackle and we'll slide him in and
hope that works out. Savior of the Vikings, of course not.
He's maybe their twentieth most important player, fifteenth, twelfth, twenty fifth,
I don't know. But they needed to plug a hole
and they needed to find a player. Most of the

(18:17):
other trades kind of the opposite of what I opened
with Lattimore and Zarius Smith and Hopkins. Most of the
other trades were, Okay, this might work for us in
the future, this is something that could help us. They
don't need him. We do. Let's see if we can
make it work. Texans, I thought would be able to
find something of significance among the offensive line. And if
you want to say that player is Zach Thomas, I mean, yes,

(18:40):
he's on the roster, and yes he's played in the
NFL this year. Yes he was on an offensive line
that was widely regarded as pathetic as to why the
New England Patriots did not start Drake May at the
beginning of the season. They were too afraid of him
getting killed. He's actually had a concussion and has barely
started any games. Zach Thomas was a part of that
offensive line. Zach Thomas lined up against the Texans a

(19:03):
couple weeks back for the Patriots. Not very well for him,
But I don't think he's going to be lining up
at the same spot he did in that game on
the edges that tackle, as he will potentially for the
Texans moving forward. A couple of the guys they've added
on the old line, practice squad guys, etc. They were
out there today. But as many have asked on the
social media and on this show, a remind well, they

(19:23):
allow the media to view every practice during the season.
During the season, it's very brief and the part of
the practice we get to view includes very little that
we would ever unknowingly or not allowed to share of
any kind of strategic nature. If you ask me, well,
who lined up as the number one starting offensive line,

(19:44):
which five guys? I can't tell you. We weren't there
for that part of practice. I have some guesses, I
have some ideas, and there are some people that I
think know a lot about that that they've talked to
and have a pretty good idea and it won't be
any different than what I said yesterday. I feel pretty
confident Jared Patterson is starting on Sunday Night for the Texans,
not one hundred percent sure where. I know it's on
the interior of their line. If he slides in its center.

(20:07):
It's a familiar position to him, but new to the
team this year. It's where he played last year, and
if he slides there, I would almost I'm sure they're
not sending Juice Scrudge to the bench. I'm sure they're
sending him to the vacated left guard spot and keeping
Kendrickdrick Green and everybody else as a reserve, not only
I guess.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I don't feel good about this week, and we didn't.
I mean, we've so if you had to pinpoint it,
and again we haven't gotten a straight answer because that's
what we're just not going to. But with Nico Collins
being out four games, which basically is five weeks give
or take.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
What what's the hold up? I know it's a hamstring injury.
I know they're all different. We want him to play
every game the rest of the season, starting with the
Cowboy game. That's my opinion. We don't want to bring
him back too soon. We don't want to bring him
back after we think okay, yeah, go ahead and clear him.
He's good to go. Yeah, that's it looks good where

(21:05):
everything checks out. Okay, then maybe we wait one more week.
I actually think they did the same thing with Jimmy
Warden and as he's al Share, I agree with that.
I think they both probably could have suited up. I
think they happened to be in a different spot there
because their secondary, I think is kind of stepped forward
here in Ward's absence. You know, Eric Murray and really
all five guys are taking every single snap, and as

(21:28):
the season's worn on, as they found out that Henry
Toatoa could really play, as they added Devin White, as
they played Nevill Hewitt and Jake Hanson for that matter,
their linebackers were playing it at a high enough level.
You're not replacing al Shayer's production and savvy and leadership.
But I think they felt they could manage pretty well
without him for one more week. All systems go for

(21:50):
both Ward and al Share for this week, as far
as I'm concerned.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
See this goes back to my theory about conceding the
Lions game.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
I know it's over the top. Well, did they concede
last week by not playing al share in the same
way because I describing the same situation.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, we're not describing the same type of opponent. We'll
continue to argue about.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
What they're not describing is if I'm telling you that
Neville Hewitt and Hanson and Hewitt can kind of fill
in and they can manage without him, I would never
sit here and say, well, Xavier Hutchinson and John Metchi
and whoever else they especially, well, wide receiver is not
as simple as you want it to be. What position
do you play? Oh I'm a wide receiver? Oh okay,

(22:28):
I know exactly what you look like, I know exactly
your body type, I know exactly you play, I know
exactly you line up. That is untrue, untrue, untrue, and untrue.
It's not even that Niko's so talented, which he is.
It's that they literally don't have another player that plays
like him, plays his position. They're wide outs. They will
line up like he lines up, they will probably run
some of the routes designed for him, but they're not him,

(22:51):
and they're not anything like him. And that's the major
difference between any of these other players we've said that
aren't going to be out there and their reserve. It's
even the same thing now for will they're gonna play
a defensive end, Derek Barnett will probably start.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Not the same, not the same, all right. We will
continue to discuss the Texans lines matchup. I'll also tell
you about that conversation I had with a member of
the Houston sports fandom. It was just a very interesting
take on things from someone that just watches games, really
really enjoys games, and as it pertains to that something

(23:29):
else that team could be doing. We get to all
that more as we continue here in the two o'clock
hour of a Thursday edition of The eighteen.

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Only fair.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
No, it's not fair. It's different. It is, yeah, there is. Yes,
there's a double standard. Technically it is once exactly why
is there a double standard? Have you ever heard women
talk about that subject matter? I don't mean that subject matter.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I mean like talking about a visual Your spouse has
a girl's night and you accidentally walk in.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
No, that's different. They don't even talk about it. And
I've walked through the room for some of those. Hey,
by the way, arounving a wine night this weekend, just
let you know you're gonna have to keep Junior in
the theater with you or go somewhere. I mean, we
have a house that is you've been there. It's it
lends itself to.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
All at the same time. Well, it's just spread.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Out because it's a one story and I love it,
but like I, I don't wanna.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
I don't want to be there when that's going on.
You can be in your man cave crying about how
the Texans aren't a full strength of the Lions game,
and she can have girls night that's in the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
If she wanted to have that girl's night this Sunday night,
it would be possible. So the point of all that
is when women talk about that subject, it's not the
same as when men talk about that subject. Oh you're
seeing this new girl, right, yeah? Yeah, So, uh, how's
it going. Oh it's all right. I've been on a
couple of dates. Nothing's really happened yet. Send Jinny picks
like what it absolutely happens. Don't like it doesn't now

(27:01):
go do that in a women's conversation. It never happens.
Did he send you any picks? No, because she didn't
want any picks of that. Those are sent when they're
not wanted.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
It's true. I believe you. I have no reason to refute.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Oh I'm not even This isn't on personal basis, this
is on facts. Reading about that guys all the time
to get in trouble for doing stupid stuff like that.
I don't I don't know those guys.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
They're in the news. Yeah I don't know them, though.
That's not my reference to, uh yeah, guys do it.
It's just so. The point of all this is thrown sucks.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Gam a throne sucks, and so does the so does
the approach to streaming shows where one episode drops at
a time.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
I don't need that. Let us binge like we want to.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Let us let us be unhealthy people for a day
of the weekend, for example, or an off day. Let
us sit in a chair far too long, eat bad
food for us, not exercise, and feel like we were
unproductive upon completion of the show. That's what we want.
That's we are Americans. We have that right. So that's
what I'm looking for, all right. So I'm sitting in

(28:12):
the waiting room waiting on my truck today to get
some routine maintenance done, and I get introduced to somebody
that knows what I do for a living. But I've
never met this person. I don't know, Like you know,
I don't know how it's going to go. Sometimes it
goes well in those situations, and sometimes it doesn't. The
person that introduced me. I trust them, so I kind

(28:33):
of figured it would be okay, it wouldn't be the
negative side of that. It was, you know, good conversation,
just you know, wanted to so inevitably, the guy says, so,
what do you think about Bregman? And I'm thinking he's
gonna say, oh, you know, it's he wants to know
whether or not they're going to sign him, and that's
what this is about. This guy had a wrinkle to

(28:55):
the situation. He goes, I'm in the minority here. I'm like, oh,
you think that he's coming back. No, no, no, no, I
don't want him to come back. I think it's a
waste of money based on what I think it's going
to cost, give or take, to bring a guy who
I think is in decline back to the Astros because
they could be spending that money elsewhere. And he mentioned

(29:16):
resigning Kyle Tucker, to which I was like, well, if
you think he's going to walk out the door, that's
all the more reason to hang on to Bregman. So
I was surprised at that, and I do wonder, because
you and I have talked about this before. Kind of
the trajectory downward of his numbers and why you might
not want to commit a bunch of money but be

(29:39):
a bunch of years to a guy like that. But
this guy did say, man, his defense is elite, and
that's that's what I keep going back to every time
I start wrestling with this.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Well, I just I totally respect that opinion, and the
team might even have it, but the idea is gross
the alternative. Now now execute the idea. We pursued Alex Bregman.
We I felt like it was too much money for
us to spend. We clearly are willing to spend money
on a player or players to keep this team's window
open and continue to succeed. Are you telling me the

(30:12):
absolute next best player on the market is who you're
now focused during your attention on. You're gonna fix the
other corner, And if you believe this is the answer,
you're gonna sign Pete Alonzo to roughly the same money.
Are you gonna go one more notch down the list
and say, well, we'll just figure out where the best
position is for him. Since he and Kyle Tucker are
both right fielders, we'll just put Anthony Santon Dair over

(30:33):
at first base. There's probably a reasonable price break discount
between four to five years of Santander versus six to
seven or eight years of Alex Bregman and a first
baseman right fielder's physical decline is probably not a huge
concern playing either of those positions if it impacts his bat,

(30:54):
and he has coming off of his best season, So
Mark is probably a little bit more than it would be. Okay,
these teams, these players also have other suitors, many of
whom might have pursued them even more vigorously than you did.
Because we hear from Dana Brown, their one option currently
is well, we think Bragnant's coming back. We're geared up
to make sure that happens. I don't think Willia Damas

(31:16):
is on their radar. I'm just wondering, like, where is
this player or players? Are you satisfied with a two
to three four year deal for Christian Walker? Elite first
base defense and a very good bat, maybe a nice
fit over at Minute Made Park? How does this sound
as I walk down the list? I mean, the next
best offensive player you might argue is coming off of

(31:39):
a World Series victory with the Dodgers is a ta
Oscar Hernandez, who you probably have an out outfield spot
for him, but you might be fielding an outfield with
no real center fielders unless Jake Myers or Chaz is
your center fielder, which is still a real possibility. Does
he play center field? I don't think they would ask
him to know. I'm I'm sure he could if he

(31:59):
needed to, but not on a one hundred and forty
game basis.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Well, what's the point of bringing him in then, I mean,
because they don't have a left fielder. So you're just
trying to Okay, well, I mean you're saying is not
going to play.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
I'm not saying never. But I loved it when they
said they wanted him out there as often as possible.
I'm all for it until you finally have to come
to the ultimate conclusion those days are over. He's going
to play left field on occasion, and that is it
on occasion. So he's just exclusively a DH from now on. Close. Yeah,
I think he's a big poppy. I said close. He's

(32:35):
not incapable of it, and at home, I still think
there's plenty of opportunities to do. So you got to
just remind him and stop running into the wall. Wall
and he didn't do that often. But he's not going
to play in any road ballparks. I wouldn't imagine the
days where certain pitchers are on the hill. Maybe it
makes more sense on those days versus others, But seventy
to ninety starts in the outfield in the future for

(32:57):
Jordn Alvarez as an astro, I don't see it, Okay,
I didn't see that coming today. Well, I said it
during the year when he got hurt at the end
of the year, so late late late in the year,
I kind of said it for the last time. Yeah,
I didn't even get hurt doing that. But you know,
we've seen him take some awkward angles, some awkward spills.
No different than any other outfielder I would. I want

(33:18):
to stress this. I think he's a plus outfielder. I
think he has got an arm. He's got their best
arm for most of this year with Kyle Tucker out right,
and yeah, I think he's I think he's a plus
outfield I don't think he's a liability. It's about keep
him out. You're just worried about then, the same way
you're worried about Aaron Judge. If you're with the Yankees.
And he's a plus plus outfielder, but they don't want

(33:40):
to see him running down balls all game long, one
hundred and sixty times a year. They don't want to
see him unning innto the wall. They don't want to
see a collision, even though he probably is going to
be on the right side of it. These are things
at some point you have to consider when there's that
much invested. And they have much more invested in their
player than the Astros do financially, but they're equally as
important to their respective goals. But yeah, I as we

(34:00):
walk down that list of Okay, no, Alex Bregman, how
far down it are you willing to go and still
believe you're just as good as you once were. We
got tickets to give away today, should mention that we'll
do the first of those giveaways coming up in the
next segment, we'll talk a little football with Justin Rodgers
from the Detroit Lions side of things. We'll do that
at four o'clocks. Play still to come here on the eighteen.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety. Adam and Adam
are so Houston and even though they don't smoke, they
still have twenty five lighters on their dresser a little bit, Mike, Yes, sir,
they've got to get paid.

Speaker 7 (34:41):
So back to you it, guys, what do you think
is the biggest reason CJ.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Stroud is struggling right now? Adam Wesler, give me your diagnosis.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Oh he's really not that good, super overrated.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Okay, now wake up out of your dream, okay, in
fake non reality.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Exactly what do you really think it is? The offense
cannot operate. Those are the words that Demiko Ryans used
during this three games stretch where the offense cannot operate,
managed to operate well enough to beat the Colts, managed
to have two of the worst three games of CJ.
Stroud's career in the other two games sandwiching that went

(35:33):
over the Colts, the game against the Packers and the
most recent game against the Jets. They're not doing the
things necessary to operate. That's can they that's in full
they CJ. They the blockers in front of him, They
the other blockers that don't play offensive line. They the
offensive coordinator, they the offensive line coach, all of it together.

(35:56):
To think they've gone this many games and it's not
just the last three, to think they've gone this far
into a season, more than half the way without really
doing anything that I've seen tangibly seen personnel or scheme
or play calling to accommodate for it is awful. That's
why they aren't succeeding. They're allowing other teams to dictate everything.

(36:20):
Here's how they're going to get to us, and we're
going to keep calling the same plays, running the same
offense the same way we've been running it, and we'll
just see what happens. And it's clearly at some point
they're reaching the other side of it. More of what
they've said this week and even today with some of
the stuff that Bobby slog said, and I know they
a media that was not on the air and able
to be over it to the stadium today, able to

(36:42):
talk to their offensive line coach, in my opinion on
what should be one of his final appearances in front
of the media. Wow, if things don't change in season,
I've said it could happen. It's not like that's a
great idea either. Okay, this guy, we gotta fire him.
Our offensive line coach is getting fed. Okay, then what
your assistant offensive line coach who's been learning underneath him

(37:04):
is moving into that spot. Probably not going to find
a north Turner esque caliber coach to come in and
help you, like the team that hired north Turner to
do earlier this week to work with his son. You
could and maybe you have somebody and maybe there's somebody you,
Demiico or you Bobby have worked with in the past
that is available. But all that being said, coming in
here to teach you a brand new this is how

(37:25):
you want to do it. They don't really seem to
have issue with their technique. This is what we want
our guys to do. Now, it's a matter if can
they executed. Maybe it's they're coaching that's not there, but
the results. At some point we talk about the players accountability, Well,
it probably flies upstairs also or on the field, since
the coaches are out there with him. Pretty noticeable that
with the offensive line works out almost as far away

(37:46):
from us as possible. It's just happenstance. It's not intentional,
but they work at the opposite end of the field.
Defensive line works at the similar opposite end of the field.
They work on two fields. Demiko Ryans usually on that
end of things. He's not usually locked in on what
is Jerra Johnson telling C. J. Stroud to do on
this five yard out to Joe Mixon during the drill?
I think he knows they've pretty much got it covered. Uh.

(38:09):
He is usually watching the linebackers, the defensive line, or
today even more than usual. I think he was watching
the offensive line go through the work that we get
to see. I don't know if he got to see
our stayed on that task after we left, but presumably yes.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
So, But Genie answer my question, can they And the
reason I asked that is obvious even with this line, yes,
So it's interesting that their head coach is saying they're not.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
They're not what or they can't. I guess he said
they can't. Well he just is assuming it's over. Nothing
is over? Is over nothing? No, I just his the
sound of conceding.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
You're conceding, Well, the the SoundBite you're referring to it
kind of.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Like this, Yeah, we can't operate on offense. And then
he says later that night and on throughout the weeks
that have followed, we got to fix this. We can
fix this each every week. We have the players that
we think can do that, which is why we didn't
add anybody one of the reasons why we didn't add
anybody else to that next see and this is not
a shot at all a demiko.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
I just feel like that's stressing up, as putting lipstick
on a pick.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
If they keep doing the same thing, the answer is no.
My answer is yes, because at some point somebody is
going to yell. A lineman is going to say this
isn't working. A coach is going to be saying this
isn't working. Bobby Slow's gonna say this is not working.
And whether they're looking in the mirror when they say it,
or they're hosting a meeting when they say it, somebody
has to realize what you've trotted out there nine weeks

(39:43):
has been poor. What you've trotted out there the last
three of those nine weeks has been untenable, unacceptable. We
can't operate like this. You can't have your frontline, top level,
elite caliber quarterback missing twenty of thirty throws twice in
three weeks. You just can't continue to say, Okay, well,

(40:05):
I think this will fix it. There's more to it.
Try it all. They don't appear to have tried any
of the alls. That's all I'm saying, and I do
believe if they would try some of those those plays
would make some things more successful, which then might allow
for you to do some of the things you do
want to do you have been doing at a little
bit more successful rate, because I still can't believe they're

(40:27):
floundering the way they are to protect him while their
running game is still successful enough and much more successful
than it was a year ago. With Joe Mixon doing
what he's done, He's had a lot more negative runs
than I think we ever comment on, or run stuffs,
if you will, against a lot more than most of
the rest of the league that have running backs near
the top of the league. But he has more of

(40:49):
the eight yard, nine yard, twelve yard, fourteen yards than
most other teams do, so it has balanced itself out.
That's supposed to help you do the things they haven't
been able to do in the passing game, and it hasn't.
I'm torn right now.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
We need to give away some tickets, but I don't
want to rush it, so I think I'm gonna save them.
The Cindy Lopper tickets we will give away in the
three o'clock hour coming up here on Sports Talk seven
ninety Definitely more conversation about this. See the funny thing
about him saying, if we do things this way, we
can't like what if the answer is, yeah, well he
can't do anything differently because the talent isn't there on

(41:26):
the offensive line, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Then everybody should just go home. They don't even need
card keys anymore. No coach would ever do that. No,
I know that.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
But if you're gonna give a SoundBite like that in
the actual symptom of the problem, where the problem itself
is that, I don't know that you're not doing anything
other than just dressing up a bad situation.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
There are You absolutely are dressing up. These players aren't awesome.
I'm not trying to turn over some new I don't
think you think they are yet. I don't think anybody
thinks they're The Texans don't think they are right. So
do something to help them more than you've done already.
Do something else, whether it's new players, new opportunities, new schemes,
new dropbacks. Don't just keep doing the same thing over
and over and over and over again. Three o'clock hours, next,

(42:08):
two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam talking Your Team series.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
A Team. What's going on Houston?

Speaker 2 (42:25):
It is straight up three o'clock here on Sports Talk
seven to ninety and of course Space City Home Network
as a simulcast has begun hour number two of four
here on the A Team. Wex and AC with You
on a Thursday edition of the program talked a lot
in the first hour of the program about the concerns
of the Houston Texans as they head into a very

(42:46):
big game against the Detroit Lions, namely the fact that
it's not looking really great for either Nico Collins or
Will Anderson Junior to suit up for this one, and
it's a game that honestly, Texan's probably behind the eight
ball if both of those guys were playing in this game.
I know they're at home, I know all that kind

(43:07):
of stuff that goes into it, but that's just how
much I, for example, really respect what the Detroit Lions
have put together this year. Like we knew they were
going to be a good team, and they were one
of those teams that when you started talking about things
in the preseason and making predictions and all that kind
of stuff, you always have to have injuries in the
back of your mind.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
And again, I think a lot of us.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
I know, the two of us picked the forty nine
ers to come out of the NFC, as I recall,
but the Detroit Lions were right there. If we didn't
I picked the forty nine ers, I think you might
have picked the Lions.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yeah, everybody else on the show picked the Lions, all
two of us. Did you really, you know, to win
the NFC you have right in front of you. Yeah,
I'm looking right at it. I have Chiefs beat Lions.
Dan has Bengals beat Lions. Now when you made that show,
you have the under five hundred to forty nine ers
in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Under five hundred because the roster is terrible, right, well,
the roster is terrible when everybody's I mean, I obviously.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Get out the lines in the NFC title game.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Again, picking them and drafting Christian McCaffrey number one overall
two things I'd like to change.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
If I knew, I would not close the book on
the Niners winning the NFC just yet.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yeah, but I'd close the NYE. I'd close the book
on Christian McCaffrey doing anything.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
You got to look at it a little bit differently.
It's this is fantasy football. If your season, yours might
be ruined, not everybody who has him, strangely enough, so
you're going to have presumably, and he's probably gonna play
this week. Maybe it's not as as full capacity or
usage of a governor, but all of a sudden, you
might be having a player that gets you, whatever your

(44:41):
league is, twenty to twenty five points every single week.
It's different like in the NFL, kind of your season
might be over, you might be buried. Well, great, he
ends up having a nice season. But to me, in
fantasy football, it's a weekly thing. And I know the
NFL is the same, but this could change everything. All
you have to do is get in and then he's
playing in your playoff games.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
And that sounds very that sounds very twenty twenty astros
to me.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
That definitely applies to the Niners themselves. They've had a
you know, they've played most of the season either with
Ayuk who wasn't ready or now Ayuk who's not coming back,
and nothing from Christian McCaffrey and his backup has played
hurt or not at all the last several weeks. YEA,
And of course They've still been able to run the
ball because they have an awesome system, a system a
little bit more developed, though it's the same system as

(45:29):
the Texans use. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't write them
off yet. I think everybody after the Lions is very similar, though.
I think the Lions are at the top of the class.
But I don't think there's a whole lot of difference
of who's next, whether it's the Niners, the Eagles, the Vikings.
Maybe you have another team or two you'd consider there.
Maybe you believe in the Rams now that they're healthier
and they've shown how much different their season might be,

(45:51):
and that is a totally wide open division. Still, I
don't know how many people believe in the Falcons, but
the record says you might want to start doing that.
I know why you shouldn't do that. He's the signal caller,
but that's okay. That's probably for another segment of the
show on another day. You're so hard on him still
to this day, He's played on some pretty good teams.
I'd really have to think on it to say if

(46:14):
this is the most talented offensive team he's played on,
because I know to have played on a better Vikings
team than that. It seems like it, because he clearly
threw a lot of passes that were awful that Justin
Jefferson just went up and caught anyway. But they never
had a Bjon Robinson on there. The pieces that are
in place. Sadly, Arthur Smith's mustache never figured it out.
I know he didn't have Kirk Cousins, and he did
have Desmond I'm not very good Ridder and those that

(46:36):
were behind him, and they beat the Texans. Sohow maybe
if you're that bad at quarterback, you should give the
ball to these guys more are and Drake London and
Bjon Robinson and Kyle Pitts. So they figured that out
this year and Rae Morris is having a very good
time of things. But this team this week for Houston
is elite in almost every way you look at a game.

(46:57):
They're not elite on the defensive line, though that might
change this week. They're not an elite defense. They do
give up points, they do give up yards. They're pretty opportunistic,
and the fact that they've barely turned the ball over
while grabbing the ball from the other team sixteen times
allow them to be plus eleven in the turnover game,
which is number one in the NFL with the Bills.
Those are the things that win you football games without

(47:20):
necessarily caring an awesome, highly rated defense or offense for
that matter, into game. The Texans defense is significantly has
performed significantly better than the Lions. They've played in different
game situations, which also helps. I mean, the Lions are
playing in several games where their defense is like, man,
if we don't get them off the field here, it's over. Rather,

(47:42):
if we don't get them off the field here, then
we only win by three touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
By the way, Earlier in the show, the first hour,
of course, I was talking about the term long shot
being applied to Nico Collins and you were wondering where
that came from. Sports Illustrated reported that ESPN's Field Yates
was the one deeming Collins a quote long shot to
play for the Texans against the Lions on Sunday night,

(48:08):
as he has yet to which we went over obviously
appear in practice or return to the fifty three man roster,
and he he field Yates was quote tweeting Djbnmy of
ESPN out at practice where you and others were today yeah, this,
and Nico Collins wasn't. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
It has nothing to do with reporting. This has to
do with semantics and logistics and normal NFL operations. And
I'm not knocking the report, but he's just stating a fact.
Players that are on IR that don't have their window
to practice even open on a Thursday, and haven't practiced
in five weeks because they've been on IR for four weeks,

(48:46):
they're not likely to play. So if you want to
write long shot in there, perfectly reasonable term to use.
There's nothing wrong with his report, especially since he's using
the ESPN platform. Djbnmy is the Texans ESPN beat writer.
He knows he was there. He's not even reporting Niko's
a long shot. He's just telling you what's literally happening

(49:07):
at eleven fifty one am this morning where we all
were covering practice, and Field is taking that information and
telling you, normally, when this happens, this is the end result.
And he's right. Normally, when players in that situation give
you this on a Thursday, they are a long shot
to play on a Sunday.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
That's accurate. For a second there, I thought you were
going to go down the Ari Gold path. That's what
it kind of sounded.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Like that I want to go.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
It's a long shot from my wide receiver one to
play in a game when he doesn't practice at noon
on a bleeping Thursday. Because that's what it kind of
sounded like, because he's got to answer the call. Well,
it's not a thing he's in a session. It's not
a phone call to the bat line in a therapy session,
but it was the ten line bag.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
I guess I have to take this call. Yeah, So
it's not great.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Will Anderson Junior obviously on the other side of the football,
that's not great. If he can't go again, you're already
buying the a ball the Detroit Lions coming to town
and then you're just dropping like flies.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Yeah where they are offensively talking about the Lions. The
loss of Will Anderson be significant. No matter what I think,
the Texans were going to have difficulty upfront as a defense.
That's one of these strengths of the Lions. It's one
of the reasons why Jared Goff is so successful. It's
one of the reasons why their running game is so successful.
They have the best tandem in the NFL is not
even close, and there's plenty of numbers to back it

(50:25):
up with what they are both able to do on
a pretty regular basis. The amount of information statistically that
was pumped out by the Allions this week with every
part of their offense especially, I believe they had a
stat in there that said the Lions are undefeated when
both Jamier Gibbs and David Montgomery score a touchdown. I mean,

(50:47):
that's probably a duh. It's happened eight times, which is
the information I think you definitely want to note. To
have two different running backs on the same team and
less than two full seasons each have a touchdown in
the same game eight times. Well, the stat itself is
now carrying probably fourteen points with it. You probably win
a lot of games when that's now known. So I

(51:08):
don't just not surprising that, but some of the other
things about what this team has done. They're undefeated on
the road this year. So, like we mentioned earlier this week,
both teams have had four games in those respective situations.
Sections have played four at home haven't lost. The Lions
have played four on the road and haven't lost. They've
won six games in a row overall, going back to
Week two when they lost to the Bucks. They've won
every game since then. It's the best start their franchise

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has had since the fifties, going seven to one to
start the year. And then that's how bad they've been.
That's actually worth noting. That is how bad they've been.
Seven and one is pretty notable. The Texans have done
that one time. They haven't been around since the fifties.
But it's a pretty There's many more ways to show
that this is offensively against the Texans defense that if

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you're an outsider, that would actually be the more fun
matchup to watch. Can the Texans defense, defensive front, can
their secondary, their back end, all these guys. This really
is a strength of this team. It is one of
the better defenses in the NFL. It's probably one of
the top five or six defenses overall, and they're going
up against arguably the best offense. It's the highest scoring offense,
and mainly because they're so effective, they don't have the

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other numbers. They are not they don't have the most yards,
they don't average the most yards per play, but they're
probably the best offense in the NFL. That's what I
would tune in to watch that matchup if I was
an outsider because the other matchup isn't as compelling because
of how badly it's gone. No matter who the Texans
have played for three consecutive weeks. The Lions aren't great defensively,

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and they're not great up front, and it's why they
added Zadarias Smith. They're not great the secondary, maybe I
could say is borderline great because two of their players
are such unbelievable play makers. Brian Branch probably won't get
ejected for the second week in a row, but he could.
He could. Kirby Joseph is ironically the player who runs
in the face of getting ejected regularly. He's had some awful, awful,

(53:04):
seemingly dirty plays pretty much from the moment he came
into the league, but he also makes a ton of plays.
He was the guy in the end zone last week
when Jordan Love threw him the football late in the
first half. They don't play for the same team, but
that matchup itself is this is probably gonna be the best.
I mean, do you think the lines are gonna have
their best week defensively? Do you think the lines are
gonna get into the Texans backfield? I don't know why

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not That's what.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
I was about to say. I don't know why you
what is the compelling argument against it? Even what the
line is doing right now or not doing any.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Yeah, there isn't one. It's just can you take that
have that happen? Be up against it, have some of
those negative plays, but have him not beyond third down
where you have to punt. Have him not be on
third down where you push yourselves out a field goal range.
Have them not be on third down where you can't
go for it on fourth down. That little tiny piece
of their ineffective pass blocking should be put up on

(53:56):
every whiteboard in the building. That's where they've really failed
things dramatic this season, among other things that have them
at six and three, which is very good.

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Speaker 2 (54:50):
During the break, there's always stuff on on monitors in
the studio, and I'm seeing them previewing the Stealers at
the Commander's and I'm thinking to myself, who would have
thought that might be one of the best matchups of
the weekend coming up here in Week ten in the NFL.
It's look that is I think the Commanders. Every time

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I see a highlight reel, I think about c J.
Stroud last year and how he was that guy that
broke out and burst onto the scene and everything the
Texans were doing, and it was it was new and
it was fun, but it was also that because it
was successful because he was allowed to do that. And
it's just a reminder to me, as I absolutely have
quarterback envy, not because I want a different quarterback, but

(55:35):
because of the type of success that that particular quarterback
is having in his rookie season. It reminds me of
how much fun CJ. Stroud is and can be and
hopefully will be again when he's allowed to operate. And
we talked about this in the first hour, you know,
Damik o' ryan saying along the lines of when we

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perform this way, when we play this way, our offense
can't do what it needs to do.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
And I'm paraphrasing.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
That's what's frustrating the most about this twenty twenty four campaign.
And you mentioned it last segment. The last three weeks especially,
it's just nothing's happening like it needs to. And you
can see it in CJ. The frustration is palpable on
the sidelines. This is not just because he's thrown his
helmet down and they only did that one right, right,

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But there's other weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
I think to yesterday when he spoke, he actually, if
you are allowed to pretend that you can read body language,
we all do it. He definitely looked refreshed from the weekend,
refreshed from more time in between games. Definitely a reset opportunity.
I do think the Texans operated like this was their

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off week. I think they are glad that they're going
to have another one here before they get to the
end of the season. The Thursday night game for them,
in the fact that they had their off week schedule
for the fourteenth week of the season they really needed.
This could have been a couple of weeks ago. It
would have been fine also, But I felt like the
way he was taking on the questions that were very

(57:09):
similar to the ones he had immediately after the game
for the last several weeks, and very similar to the
ones he's had during the week for the last several weeks,
because the problems haven't changed. But I felt like his
thoughts about that, what he wanted to say about it,
and how things might have changed inside the locker room,
even and having a chance to reset with his own thoughts,
reset with the offensive lineman, the coaching staff, the coordinators obviously,

(57:33):
the offensive line coach, the quarterback, all those things, felt
like he was a little bit more all right, we
know what's happened. We know what's been happening. All we
have to do is figure out a way that in
game it doesn't snowball on us in game. We got
to figure out how to move past it. I'm not
expecting and he didn't say these words. I don't think
he's expecting their offensive line problems that are gone, that

(57:55):
they've figured it out, that they've licked these problems that'll
wait till the Lions see what they have store for them.
Far from it. I think he's now accepting the fact
that we have to figure out a way to still score,
still succeed, still possess the ball, which that last part
they still have. They're right at the top of the
league in time of possession. Still, they're not too far

(58:16):
away from where they were in number of yards gained
per game, and they're not much different in yards per
play than they were before. This is really gone in
the wrong direction. They're different in that they're not scoring
as often. They're different in that their drives are ending negatively.
You happen to have a couple of missfield goals put
in there. I don't really think that's a fair barren issue,
but it's notable that at the beginning there are basically

(58:37):
none of those a lot of long field goals. You've
had more long field goals too. Of the field goals
you tried last week were above fifty yards. Finishing these
drives something they certainly have to do a little bit
better job of. Their red zone success rate has definitely
taken a turn for the worst, but they're still getting there.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah, that's what's crazy is that they are you know,
complete of some of those drives away. In many cases,
it feels like from having an even better record than
they do. And you mentioned it going into the break there,
they're still very good. Six and three is a good record.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
It's probably about time to let see j say that.
I mentioned about what he had to say, Well what
he did say. Literally, there's a couple of things he
got into about the team itself and about the wake
up call. You remember after the last game, he definitely
said this is a wake up call and it said
it again yesterday when he met with the media, but
Stroud talking about what this team probably needed and how

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they kind of wake up from it and getting hit
in the mouth and what is ahead of them.

Speaker 8 (59:36):
Yeah, I know, we had a lot of great conversation
with him, and you know, I believe, you know that
sometimes it takes getting hitting them off and maybe getting
hiting them off multiple times to wake up. And you know,
you know, I believe that, you know, this is a
wake up call for us and get things fixed. And
you don't understand, like, man, if we give ourselves a
shot and we stay.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
In the green.

Speaker 8 (59:55):
We moved the ball really well, we just you know,
got to finish. We gotta be able to lose those
one bad plays and a drive or those two bad players,
or the penalties. You know, it's always something. So if
we can get rid of that, I believe that, you
know we can, we can really be grateful our team,
and we already are.

Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Yeah, Look, it's interesting when you look at it from
that standpoint, because it's true they can move the ball.
We just got done talking about it. So it's not
that like they completely the offense completely goes in the toilet.
It just stalls out sometimes. Other times it doesn't feel
like they ever get the drive started. They've been stalling
out all year. That's the other thing he alluded to

(01:00:33):
with the penalties and other things. The penalties aren't their
problem these the last three weeks be really the last
five weeks. The penalty they happen, and they are a problem,
but they're not killing their off what's killing the offense
is the other team doing things they're not ready for,
doing things that doing things that other teams have film
on and know this will work, and it keeps working.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
And that's the other reason. Going back to the beginning
of yesterday's show, on today's show. This is step one
of I don't know how many more steps it'll be,
and I can't believe they're only on step one. They're
not gonna start the same line this week. That was
a given because of injury. But I also think they're
making it a change because they think it's going to
be better, a significant change to the offensive line. What

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that is, we will find out. The last thing that
he said on that comment, I want it to stress
because I said the same thing, and I want people
to believe that they believe what they have over there
at an RG stadium. The last thing he said on
that clip was.

Speaker 8 (01:01:26):
We're a really good football team. Like, there's no time
to hang our heads down. It ain't that bad. We're
gonna figure it out for.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Sure, as in, of course we can figure it out.
My answer to you from maybe a half hour ago,
do you think they can fix it? Yes? Absolutely, you
can fix it to oh my god, this team's unbelievable.
They're gonna finish fourteen and three. No, fix it to
where you can win football games each week. Fix it

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to where you can finish drives each week. Fix it
to where the defense can get you off the field.
And sack you three times over a nine play span,
and then the next two drives you put ten points
on the board.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Yes, yes, and yes. See this is where the semantics
in the show. It rears its ugly head again. Yeah,
we're on the air. Permanent, permanent, fixed, you're off the show.
Fixing it, to me, is not the term to use.
You're talking about putting a band aid on it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
There's no alternatives, I know, but I'm just telling you
the facts that you've got to fix it in the
off season. You can't fix it in season with the
roster that they have. Well, so accept that, and they
they maybe at this point they have accepted that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
I just wonder if they knew they were going to
get to this point in the cross season.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Why would they Why would they do nothing? They look
at what they've done. I've tried to say this multiple times.
They went for it. They signed players to help them
win a Super Bowl in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Provided there where line could block, which they did last year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
They would not have signed Daniel Hunter and al Share
and traded for Digs and signed Mixed and resigned Schultz
if they thought, well, I don't care who we get,
we can't win with this offensive line. One hundred percent.
Guaranteed they did not think that, did not say that.
What do you think that Nobody was loud enough in
the building if anybody did think that to tell them
to do something about it. And their play suggested that

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was a reasonable thing to say. Should they have wanted
a better line, one hundred percent. And I'm a little
surprised that there wasn't anything done to say, well, we're fifteen,
or we're seventeen or we're eighteen, and we're really good
as pass blockers and we're not really good as run blockers. Okay,
I'll solve that problem. Let's go get Joe Mixon. That's
not it will work, but that's not really the way

(01:03:38):
to fix it, like you're talking about. I'd be surprised
if they really believed yet, Yeah, we'll be fine next year,
young player, young player, veteran. These guys will be better
next year. Second year in the system, second year with
the coach, second year in the offense. These are reasonable
thoughts I would like. I'm not sure what would not
have precluded them from maybe one other significant addition beyond

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rafting a player you knew was not going to compete
for a job this year in Blake Fisher.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
I would like to know what they thought about Kenyon
Green in the offseason. You mean honestly gave him the
job competition? Yeah, well do you still watter? That tells
me what you know. It tells me what they thought
from a standpoint of we didn't do anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
It tells you that one of Nick Cassario's first first
round draft picks name is Kenyon Green's what I was
about to get at, and it doesn't mean that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
It tells you that they're trying to make sure that
they can't get him to come around that kind But that's.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
He did a lot of work, He made a lot
of effort, and he came back in better shape. He
definitely was slimmed down. I think a healthy version of
him gives you some hope that, yeah, he can play.
And admittedly, in my case, just giving that person a
job after what he had done the first two years
of his career, which more injury and when he wasn't hurt,
it wasn't good play and that's probably not the right
way to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I've got PTSD from this organization giving their first round
draft picks whatever position especially the quarterback one in the
inaugural season until two thousand and six, way more leash
than they should have gotten once you figured it out
they're not good enough. Well, I don't want to have
to figure out the hard way that this guy's not

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good enough to protect CJ. Stroud, because you know who
else doesn't want that to happen, CJ.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Stroud.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
So it's just I just don't want to And maybe
I'm too harsh because of that on the Texans, but whatever,
I'd rather be too harsh than too lenient on a
very very big problem for the Texans offensive line.

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in anticipation of the Lions coming to town Sunday night
nationally televised game. By the way, Jared Goff the I

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don't want to say he's the unsung hero of the Lions,
but he's. I don't think anybody thought that he would he.
I don't want to say not make the engine go
because he is the quarterbacks. That's not the right analogy.
I don't know. I just if they were going to
have this record and they were going to be this
successful this year, I guess I just didn't think that

(01:06:38):
it would be because in large part of Jared Goff.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
And it still doesn't necessarily feel that way. It should,
but he's playing really well well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Yeah, but I don't think of Jared Goff as one
of the upper ruschelon quarterbacks in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Even if I should, Yeah, you should.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
I don't, though, No, I understand why, like any given season,
I don't think of him that way.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Yeah, we never talk about him. We never put him
on that list. We put together top fives that included CJ.
Stroud at the beginning of the year, and he wasn't
ahead of him, and I completely understand why. But it's
not like he wasn't awesome last year. He was awesome
last year. They were in the NFC title game last
year partially because he was great. They Ben Johnson and
he have been a perfect match. They've continued with their

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phenomenal GM to add talent on the offensive line, at
tight end, at wide receiver, at running back, they have
as many weapons and elite level players on their eleven
man starting unit, and then they're getting Jameson Williams back
this week. They have gone after other reserves. I think
Addington Patrick was extremely smart for what might happen in

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any given year, and he's a very good veteran receiver,
a little bit like Noah Brown with the Texans last year.
Obviously Noah Brown with the Commanders this year. Very same thing.
But we're looking at the last twenty five games for
GoF as the Lions quarterback. You remember two years ago
the last game of the season was probably an indicator
of things to come. There was nothing on their plate

(01:08:02):
going into the last game of the season against Aaron
Rodgers and the Packers, and they beat him and knocked
him out of the playoffs, finished nine to eight, but
there was no postseason in their future. Now, the last
twenty five games that they've played since then included a
trip to the NFC title game. And this team's gone
nineteen and six. That's better than everybody. They've been unbelievable.
He's been unbelievable. Forty four touchdown passes in those twenty

(01:08:24):
five games against sixteen interceptions, he's been great. The numbers
he's actually put up in the last six of those
twenty five games are literally, like I'm being literally, I'm
not hyperbole here, the best in the history of the NFL.
Nobody has ever had a six game stretch with a
higher passer rating than the current six game stretch that

(01:08:46):
Jared Goff is on right now. No member of the
Manning cast has been better, No mayor of New Orleans
has been better, and yet no seven time champion has
been better. It's incredible. Completion percentage exactly the same, It's
very much tied into passer rating, But no player in
the history of this league has had a higher completion

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percentage over the last six games, over any six game span.
Then the quarterback coming into town this week. He is
the reason that they are where they are offensively.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
And yet I feel like, you know, if if the
forty nine ers were fully healthy, and I know that's
a big if. You know, Brock party hasn't hasn't gone
anywhere this year, But if they have Christian McCaffrey, if
they have IUK, if they have you know, all their
their parts clicking on all cylinders, I still don't feel
like people would have put the Lions ahead of them

(01:09:39):
except for you two, of course, in our preseason predictions.
Other than you two, I mean, I don't think I
didn't see a ton of like I'm sure people, I'm
sure a lot of people actually said, all right, well
the Lions is going to take that next logical step
this year.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Well, I mean, all that takes is one game. They
were they earned their way. There's one more step to
take last.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Year's Lions team. And again I could be misremembering here.
I just don't feel like they were, you know, dominant
all season long like this. I certainly don't remember them
having this record at this point in the season, you know,
only one loss. So it was like, okay, this is
the next logical step from last year. They had a
good record, they were a good team. It was not
a surprise that they were in the NFC Championship other

(01:10:23):
than that they had never done that before prior to
last year, in forever, as you mentioned, since the fifties.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
But like Texans beat them on Sunday, they'll have the
same record as they had last year at that point
seven and two. Yeah, but not seven but not eight
and one. What you said was accurate, they were not
seven and one. Last year they were a sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
And actually I am misremembering because I thought they may
have even had another loss by this point.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
They lost their second game each of the last two years.
They got blown out and embarrassed in Baltimore in Week seven,
losing thirty eight to six. But by the time they
got to their ninth game, got to seven and two.
They put up four games with thirty or more points,
two of them were forty or more. They had another
one of those games a forty point game later in

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the season. They had four more thirty point games the
remainder of the season, and he was really really good
in the postseason, going one to three consecutive games without
throwing an interception. He is the all time NFL leader
in interception percentage in the postseason.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Jared Goff, that's crazy. And again this goes back to
the whole quarterback envy thing. Every week last year, I
thought the Texans had a chance because they had CJ. Stroud,
and I never once thought to myself, They're not going
to have a chance because CJ.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Stroud's not going to be allowed to cook.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
And that's how I feel going into every game lately,
I'm like, all right, yeah, they've got him, but he's
playing with a hand tie behind his back, and that's
just it's just not the same vibe going into each week.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
And you know the Jets game. They're catching the Texans
at the right time. They can't be more down mentally
based on what's happened in the last three weeks than
they are, even though they didn't lose all three games.
That is the right time to catch them mentally. We'll
see if the extra couple of days a little better

(01:12:19):
for the team that's out there physically. They're also catching
them on a week where Will Anderson's not likely to play.
He's played in every other game, so that's an assist.
And they're catching one of the five games potentially that
Nico Collins is not playing. They're catching the second game
that Stefan Diggs isn't playing. There are a lot of
timing reasons why this could work out quite nicely for them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
And could be the first back to back loss in
CJ's career.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
It's another part of why CJ said what he said,
which I played for you twice for effect. We're a
really good football team. We've got a lot of good players.
They are still six and three. They did still win
the division last year. You know, they won nine of us.
They went ten seven on the season, meaning nine and
six when he was the starting quarterback, nine and six,
six and three, fifteen and nine and twenty four starts.

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It's a good football team. That's regardless of all the
other things that may or may not have been good
or bad.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
And then but again what we're talking about, it's not
just the lights. It causes me because I have to
look forward on the schedule and okay, so how many
of those games are gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
Games of his career? Were both losses? Yeah, well so
technically it has happened. Technically, it's the first thing he did.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Yeah, that was not That was you know interesting thinking
back on that too, because it wasn't. You would have
never thought that that's how his season would end, because
it wasn't just that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Yeah, by going nine and four the rest of the way.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Yeah, the team, but the way they did it right,
the way they did it, that's what I'm saying. I
just I don't it's not the same feeling from CJ.
Because it hasn't been allowed to be.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
He had one game like that last year the Jets game.
Now he's had multiple games like it this year, and
we never can the Texans never play the Jets again?
Is that just? Is that possible? They just they won't
play the Jets next year because they won't finish in
the same slot in their division, and then they don't
play that division.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
And it's not an AFC East. Yeah, all right, good good,
because I'd like a break from them. All right, don't
want to break from you, guys. We're gonna keep going.
We've got one more segment to go here in the
three o'clock hour.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
We've got a Detroit.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Lions guest coming up at the top of the hour.
Justin Rodgers from the Detroit Football Network will join us
to talk about this one at four.

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that division. They've got the Commanders this weekend. But the
Bengals and Joe Burrow, who was not among those five
quarterbacks promoted by the NFL's post on X asking who's
the MVP. He quarterbacks a four and five football team,
But if you watch how he has played this year,
especially after their season opening loss to the incredibly awesome Patriots,

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it's pretty darn good. I also think they helped themselves
at the trade deadline. Might not seem like much when
you trade for a player who basically never played for
the Bears in Khalil Herbert, but with Zach Moss's injury,
leaning on Chase Brown as much as they did a
week ago. While it worked because he's really good, it's
probably not the best idea. Herbert's active, almost assuredly tonight.

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He just got there this week. They played early Thursday,
and it looks like he will be a part part
of the group that they have at their disposals tonight
to try to take on the Ravens the Texans injury
report for today. Probably know pretty much all of it,
since I was at practice today and already mentioned a
lot of these particulars. I had five players that did
not practice today, Will Anderson, Junior, Jake Hansen, and Foley Photocasi.

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Foley was there but did not practice. The others I
did not see, and the other name I didn't mention.
Two of them. Damian Pierce is not going to play
this week with that groin injury. And again from a
roster standpoint, Kenyan Green has not been officially placed on
injured reserve. Thus he still appears on their injury report
each day they practice or have an estimated practice. He

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did not practice today, he is still expected to be
placed there in his season will be over. They have
a roster spot that was taken by the addition of
the offensive lineman Thomas roster spot's second one should be his.
The other one became open with the trade of Khalil
Davis mentioned. Derek Barnett was back at practice today. He
did not participate in yesterday's lighter workout. He's got both

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a shoulder and a calf injury, but in the absence
of Will Anderson Junior on Sunday night, which seems likely.
It would be very nice if Barnett were up and
available for them. He was limited today. Al Shaiir and
Jimmy Ward, as I mentioned earlier, would likely be listed
as limited players. They were both trending to be active
for the first time in several weeks for the game.
The knee injury for al Shair the groin injury for

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Jimmy Ward. They will both, barring some sort of setback there,
are slated to be up active and whatever their full
respective playload is. Jimmy Ward normally was playing every single snap,
same for Al Shaiir. Not sure that it will remain
that way with what they have in the secondary. Not
sure that Eric Murray all of a sudden plays zero plays,
but it's also in game injuries happen. They've happened toward

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a couple of times. They've happened to Kalen Bullock, so
having them all at their disposal certainly would help. Jeff
Acouta and Jerry Hughes are the two players who are
on ire but have their practice window of twenty one
days open to them. They're a couple days into it.
They're going to be listed as limited, and there's no
guarantee that they're up for this game. I think they're
trending towards being there. I think the defensive ends group

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health is a factor if Jerry Hughes is up or not.
Dylan Horton returned to practice today. He was ill yesterday
He did not practice, so he was also listed as
a limited participant. Full workload for Shack Mason today. Hip
injury is probably no fun, and he was limited on Wednesday,
but with the much more vigorous let's wear our Guardian

(01:19:31):
caps to work today practice. Seeing that he practiced in full,
he will once again be starting on the offensive line
at his usual spot. All right. Something NFL related, Oh,
Jared Patterson full practice participant. Thank god for that. Well,
you'd like to know if your starters are available? Yeah,
I believe he is one. Yeah. Something NFL related that

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has to do with the election. Are you ready for this?

Speaker 8 (01:19:54):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Is it guessable? Yeah? Well, I know I mentioned to
you the other day, and I think we talked about
it on the air that during his campaigning, very important
to sneak in a line about the NFL's dynamic kickoff,
which Donald Trump was able to do. I don't know
what that thing is. I don't know what you might
be referencing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Do you know which NFL owner was part of the
original Trump administration?

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
As like, just to not necessarily saying what he was
an example of somebody that of a job you're saying
he might have held, like he was in the cabinet,
I do mean, well, he's been battling as I run
through the list, Yeah, okay, you knew that, right, Yeah, well,
I knew about his involvement in some day this last
week or early this week, I saw a list of

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NFL owner financial contributions to the respective tickets that they
sent money out. Now would well, I mean they're owners
on both sides of it, and they had the amounts.
I knew Woody Johnson was a very large control saying,
but Woody Johnson's been in the news this year, and
I mentioned it the day that they went through the
Roberts Solid firing and the things they were doing that

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he's in a he's been in a very well known
ambassador for where this country.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
So yeah, he was the administration's ambassador to the United Kingdom.
I bring this up because when that happened he seeded
control to his brother Christopher. They did, they still didn't
do a good job. Chris Johnson, Yeah, Chris Johnson, Chris and.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Of the football team or the Double Johnson Pharmaceuticals factory
that they churn out money with.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
I would think that would be the latter, not the former.
You're talking about the football right, Yeah, Okay, his brother
Christopher had controlled the team from seventeen to twenty one.
When he was doing that, he was had that role
within the administration. I bring that up because a lot
of people inside the Jets organization think he's going to
go back now. It doesn't really, it doesn't mean anything,

(01:21:53):
especially if Christopher takes back over, because it's just a
different bad Johnson running things. But that's apparently a thing
going around the Jets organization right now. So for what
it's worth, Woody Johnson might not be as involved.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Are there any articles I can pull up that grade
out Woody Johnson's time as an ambassador? Well, that's the
other thing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
If you're an ambassador to another country in an American
president's administration.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
How did he smooth things over in the relations between
the United States of America and the UK.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Yeah, like the who's the Prime Minister of Britain right now?
I don't even know, Like I can't even tell.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
You the last Henry or Justin.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Well, once upon a time it was Tony Blair and
that might be the last one I can rattle off
the top of my head.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
But that just there's.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Certain countries where if you're an ambassador to that whatever
fill in the blank country, that's a cushy gig. You're
not You're not exactly solving world problems. So you could
understand why a guy like Woody Johnson, that'd probably be
a good role to put him in. They're not sending
him to Iran, for example, the ambassador to Iran, can

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you stop a nuclear war from happening?

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Please?

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
So I just thought that was I would think from
a it's family standpoint, probably doesn't. That's to me a
little bit like managers who get ejected. All right, here's
my lineup card. I'm gonna go in the back where
I pick up the phone and tell you what to
do during the game.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Yeah, by the way, no one ever talks about that.
That's what's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
It can happen, though, do you think, Well, Joe A.
Spota has said quite clearly more than once, especially because
of the respect he has for Omar Lopez when he
has been ejected, and Joe was ejected quite a few
times this year, he intentionally doesn't do that because the
assumption is correctly managers do manage the game after they've

(01:23:49):
been ejected. He told the media or publicly. It might
have been on the Matt Thomas Show even with Ross
that he said, you know, once I turned things over
to Omar. I've turned things over to Omar. I know
he knows what washing my hands to this one we have.
You know, we have playing meetings before games. We know
what we want to do and then we move on
from there. And you know, I think a little of
that comes from his own experience. He clearly was in

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omar shoes before. But do you think Woody Johnson, Oh
oh hey, Chris, stop asking me about the Jets. I'm
I'm an ambassador out, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
I don't want to know what Aaron Rodgers quarterback to
replace Aaron Rodgers this offseason in the twenty five draft.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
You know, do you think we're thinking about firing somebody?
What do you think.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
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Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
A team. We're not just going to start talking football,
But we are going to continue talking football here halfway
through our four hour ride into Texans Lions coming up
on Sunday night, second consecutive week for the Texans in primetime.
They're playing the primist of teams from the NFC, the
seven to one lines to that end, special us joining

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us here from Detroit, the Detroit Football Network's own Justin
Rogers been covering the Lions for better than a decade
and this is a lot different than many of the
previous years Lions outfits. Justin, we certainly appreciate the time.
And we just got finished talking about Jared Goff, my
co host Adam and myself also Adam, and how much

(01:26:22):
he actually should be getting credit for what's going on
there is the what is making this engine go. No
lack of recognition on how talented the other ten or
so players are around him offensively, but the season he's
having should be noteworthy and that we've never seen it before.

Speaker 9 (01:26:41):
My aleent regret is I'm also not named Adam. It's
a big letdown on my part. I apologize. Look, yeah,
Goff is having a great season, and what it is
is it's not quite game manager.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
It's more than that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
And I don't want to put a label on.

Speaker 9 (01:26:57):
Him that makes it sound like I'm taking away from
what he's accomplishing. But he's being extraordinarily smart with the football.
When Goff got here from Lost, I thought he had
two flaws in his game. One he was prone to
one pretty massive mental error a week that led too
often a turnover. And I don't think his deep ball
was particularly good. And he's really improved significantly in both.

(01:27:20):
And he's not throwing a deep a ton this year.
But when defenses are permitting, when they're giving those opportunities
to targeting Jamison Williams deep as a weapon for them,
and then other than that, he's just taking the smart read.
And yeah, that's a lot of five yard checkdowns. But
when you have guys like Jamison Williams, I'm on our
Saint Brown, Sam Laporta. Jamier gives guys that can do

(01:27:41):
things after the catch, and I have checked in a while,
but I know the Lions are very towards the top
of the league and yards aner the catch, Let your
guys go to work, get him in space and let
him go to work. And there's not much more to
be said about a guy that's completing nearly eighty three
percent of his passes of the last six games. It's
really quite preposterous, and I think any quarterback of the
league will tell you it doesn't matter how far down

(01:28:02):
the field you're throwing. It difficult to do at that
level if.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
You turn the conversation to as unsexy a place as
possible when analyzing football. Their offensive line doesn't get talked
about because of all the names you just said, saying ones,
We've been saying, well a suit throughout the week. Where
would you put their offensive line if you were placing
them around the other thirty two teams? It appears this
has got to be one of the three or four

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best lines. And I'll add to that was Taylor Decker's
appearance on today's injury report. Any indication of an issue
heading into Sunday.

Speaker 9 (01:28:36):
Yeah, it caught us a little bit by surprise as well.
So we don't have an update because it popped up
at four o'clock. After coaches that talk. We'll know a
little bit more, and we talked to Dan Camele tomorrow.
But the group is certainly not ignored locally. They have
invested heavily in it. They have three pole center to
right guard to right tackle. They have an all pro

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right tackle that is arguably the best lineman at any
spot in football.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
People.

Speaker 9 (01:29:01):
Taylor Decker is a former first round pick, Graham Glasgow
is a former third round pick. All those guys are
are really talentedly, but an offensive line is a fist.
It's five fingers. What can those five fingers come together
and forge? And this group is probably the best in
the NFL. They've been hovering in that conversation for two
or three years. They had a lot of injuries, kind

(01:29:22):
of a revolving door of them for a few years there.
But the addition of Kevin Zeitler replacing another good offensive
lineman and Jonah Jackson has actually been an upgrade. It's
allowed the Lions to be a run first team, which
is kind of weird in this area all but that's
what they're doing. It's giving Jared Goff time to process
and make those correct reads. It is, as the offensive

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coordinator Ben Johnson says all the time, it is the
engine that makes the offense go. They can do anything.
They can block his own, they block app they get
to the second level, they catch passes because the hell
not and so this group can do a little at everything,
and they could do it at a very high level.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Justin Rodgers with the Detroit Football Network joining us here
to talk Lions Texans coming up this Sunday night and going.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Back to goth a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
You were just talking about him there, and you know,
game manager is almost like an insult to quarterbacks when
you use that term. But I also, and I was
mentioning this to Wex earlier in the show, I don't
feel like at the beginning of the season, even if
you thought, all right, Detroit's going to take that next step,
they're going to be one of the best teams, if
not the best, in the NFC, I never would have
put Jared Goff in like the top five or maybe

(01:30:30):
even top ten of quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
So what is it? What is the perfect description for him?

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
If he's not an elite level quarterback, like in the
sense of putting up gaudy numbers, but he's also clearly
not a game manager.

Speaker 9 (01:30:42):
Yeah, it's a it's it's a really good question. It's
a really tough one to answer because I don't think
Goff is a guy that we would picture as a
quarterback that carries a team what some out of the
quote unquote elite conversations. He's not a dual threat. You know,
he doesn't have the mobility of a lot of the
elite quarterbacks to extend plays out of the pocket, to

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pick up yards with their feet. He's not Lamar Jackson
or Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
He just not.

Speaker 9 (01:31:09):
But in terms of pocket presence, elite play action quarterback
maybe the best needful. You know, it's a really underrated
skill of his, his ability to sell playfakes, and it
really does keep an offensive off balance, I'm sorry, a
defense off balance because they don't know whether he's handing
it off because he sells it so well linebackers in

(01:31:31):
it opens things up behind those linebackers. And so Goff
just does a lot of the little things really really well.
I think he's a high level processor. He's accurate at
all levels of the field, and you know, insult he
manages the game plan to as high a level as
you can want as an offensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
What does the Lions team, what do the media members
there in Detroit? What's the perception of the team they're facing,
the team they're going up against, for where they are
after the last three weeks talking about the Texans, What
do do you get the senses of what they think
they're up against.

Speaker 9 (01:32:08):
I will tell you from my personal perspective. When the
schedule came out and we kind of knew Gift and
where things were going this this was a game I
circled that just drew general excitement. Really loved the matchup
on paper. I think there is an element of looking
in the mirror and seeing the AFC version of the

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Lions and maybe a year behind, just because Ryan's only
been there for for a season less than Dan Campbell.
But you know, he's brought a culture that people have
bought into their very much a draft and developed team,
and I can't stop laughing about it. But you know,
we'll see how it was coming out one of his

(01:32:51):
prime comps. I believe lancetreline at NFL dot com, I'm
competent to Jared Goff and so there's this probably a
little bit more athletic, right fellows, But there's just so
many similarities, and I think they see this as a
really big test. They've been answering big tests on the
road a lot. Recently. They beat Minnesota, was undefeated three

(01:33:13):
weeks back at the time beat Green Bay in the weather.
You know, sus statement win for a team that you
know has to answer questions all the time about being
a Dome team and playing in those conditions. They did
it certainly that Unders did on last Sunday, and so
it was just another test against a really good team
on the road. And you know, I don't think it's

(01:33:33):
a stretch to say, you know, it's a possible super
Bowl matchup. I think Houston's a little bit behind in
terms of the Baltimore's and the cases of the world,
but you know, they've got the pieces that if they
put it all together, you certainly could see them making
that kind of run in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
I would certainly agree that Campbell and Ryan's are elite
culture builders, and no offense to the other thirty NFL coaches,
I think I would also say they are most currently
likely to still be able to handle business as NFL
players like they did when they were NFL players. How
fast do you think things got to where they are

(01:34:08):
with and I think we should always add Brad Holmes
to the conversation, how do you think things got to
this culture of what they are with Dan Campbell and
Holmes and everybody coming aboard and creating what is now
the best team in the NFC.

Speaker 9 (01:34:23):
Yeah, they had to rip it down to the studs here.
You know, it's really in a bad place when when
they arrived, you know, your trade Matthew Stafford the face
of the franchise kind of on day one essentially, and
you know really much you're fully embracing this, this rebuild.
It took about a year and a half before things
started to click. They had a really really rough season

(01:34:45):
that first year. They hired the wrong offensive coordinator. It
didn't mesh well. They threatened lists there with you know,
no wins. Their first eleven games, ended up winning three.
They start one and six that second season. Then they
start putting it and they closed that season really strong.
They were still in the mix for a playoff spot
until the final week of the season. And you came
into the twenty twenty three year and he said, Okay,

(01:35:08):
this looks like a team that should win its division.
And they did, and they kind of did it a
start to finish manner. And so you know, you mentioned
the very top of this that it's a different Detroit
team and it's taken a long time for fans. It's
taken a long time for media to kind of let
go of the ghosts of the past. It's six decades
a ghost of just failure after failure after failure to

(01:35:28):
recognize that this is real. And I think for the
first time as a media member all these ah, is
this the week they kind of stumble? Is this the
week the other shoe drops? And you're moving past that
and realizing that, No, this is one of, if not
the best teams in football, and they know how to
take care of their business. You sense the confidence in
room every single day, and the way they execute in

(01:35:51):
practice and the way they execute on game days, and
it's it's just a new world. I don't know what
other way to put it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
No, I think, you know, given the circumstances and with
the injuries to the Texans especially, but I do think
they're the best team in the NFL, and they're playing
the best right now, and I anticipate a very long
night on Sunday. Justin, We appreciate the time, good luck
the rest of the way this season, and we'll catch
up with you again soon.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (01:36:18):
Thanks for having me, guys, all.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Right, Justin Rodgers of the Detroit Football Network here on
Sports Talk seven to ninety Space City Home Network. As
the Lions and the Texans getting together this Sunday, I
kind of wanted to ask him about the you know,
are you looking at the injuries to the forty nine
ers and what's happened and thinking, all right, that's just
another thing that's going their way. Yeah, obviously Hutchinson's a

(01:36:40):
bad injury, but they've got it set up pretty Hopefully
the Texans can put a pause.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
To that this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
The A Team on Sports Talk seven ninety Adam Clinton
and Adam Wexler. The A Team now continues.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
Thanks again to Justin Rogers of the Detroit Football Network
for joining us. Last segment, talk a little bit about
this Sunday night's upcoming game. Mentioned I think earlier this week,
the fact that Houston and Detroit tangling in two different
sports on the same day. You got the Rockets and
the Pistons at two o'clock that afternoon here on Sports
Talk seven to ninety and Space City Home Network, and

(01:37:26):
then that night the two teams. We'll get together on
the football side, of course, on in the CE a
lot of Chris Collinsworth.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
One thing that Justin mentioned when I asked him about
their offensive line was was where they all how they
put it together. If you didn't hear all of that
first round pick, first round pick, first round pick of
the Lions. Fourth member was a first round pick of
another team. Well they added in free agency. That's Zeitler

(01:37:55):
and the awful member of their offensive line, Glasgow only
eight third round. Now, you don't hit on all these picks.
You put effort into it when you don't, but when
you do, it really changes how you put your franchise together.
Hitting on an offensive lineman is much like hitting on
a quarterback. It changes everything because every year you can

(01:38:16):
you find a wide receiver to add to this. Do
you need to do a little bit differently? Every other
position is the same in terms of how do we
make it better other than offensive line and quarterback. I
mean one of those first round picks I talked about
their center, he was a twenty sixteen first round pick,
or that Taylor Decker excuse me, a twenty sixteen first

(01:38:36):
round pick raight now twenty eighteen, that's a long time ago.
The only teams they've ever played for, they pretty much
have been there from the jump once they were added,
and then I don't think everybody was sold on the
Pane Sewell pick couple of years back when they took
him seventh overall, Not that they didn't think he was
going to be really, really good, but they wondered, is
this what the Lions need with where they're going, how

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they've been built and kind of the growth of the team.
And it was a home run, I mean, grand slam
if you will. That's how you it was. That's how
you're able to put the rest of the team together.
But you have to. That's why I keep going back
to GM Brad Holmes and some of those draft picks
clearly weren't his. He hasn't been there that long. But

(01:39:22):
how many years This is year I believe they were together.
This would be year four for both he and Dan.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
I mean, you mentioned all those first round picks that
they made. Some of those, I mean, were they all
separate years or did they have multiple firsts?

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
Well, I haven't gotten to the other first round picks
that are huge contributors to the team. This year's pick,
Terry and Arnold looks like he's a pretty good player,
and I think that will turn out to be a
very good late first round pick. They took him twenty fourth.
They traded up to take Jamier Gibbs, and last year's
draft phenomenal also met with tons of criticism. Why are
you trading up for a smaller running back? Hey, watch

(01:39:57):
our games the next two years you'll know why. Absolute
monster pick Jack Campbell linebacker they took six players later,
has also hit. Probably should mention both of their second
round picks are elite top five players at their respective
positions already Sam Laporte at tight end, and we've already
mentioned Brian branch on the show. They had two first

(01:40:18):
round picks the year before that. Also Aiden Hutchinson, who's
probably going to lead the Lions in sacks this year.
He's still got a five and a half sack cushion,
he's not gonna play again in the regular season, and
the other one is returning this week off of suspension.
Jamison Williams also met with tons of criticism on draft days,
also on my fantasy team. Well, they took him twelfth

(01:40:39):
off of injury in a draft that was loaded with
receivers at a position where you could argue that wasn't
much of a position. Of need, but they thought, yeah,
we're loaded as a team and we can probably wait
and see if he turns out to be the player
we saw on the field. And I don't think he's
reached that level, to be honest with you. I think
he is a super big time three, and I think

(01:41:00):
he changes defense's philosophy sometimes when he's on the field.
But his production hasn't been overwhelming. And part of that
isn't his fault. Part of that is, well, I can't
throw him the ball all the time when I've got Ross,
ain't Brown and Laporta and Montgomery and Numbridge and Sewell.
Was their first round pick the year before that. Their
first round pick the year before that is on the Texans.

(01:41:21):
That's Jeff Akuda. That was a miss. I don't like
this mass. All these first round picks have made them.
Joe Hawkinson was a hit as a is he a
good player? I happen to think it was an awful
draft pick because they took him eighth overall and he
plays tight end. Yeah, well, I know how you feel
about that. Really really good. He was really good for them,

(01:41:42):
and he's about to be really good again for the Vikings.
He just returned a week ago. But take your tight
end eighth overall. He needs to be like the next
I don't know it, Gronk. The rest of your statement
is unnecessary. There's no if don't tones, don't take a
tight end. He wasn't drafted eighth overall, one of them were.
Nobody ever is going to be drafted eight overall and
do that. It just doesn't happen. It's not necessary.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Well, there is one thing that was worse that a
team did. That's drafting a kicker in the first round.
That's what the Raiders did, you know, And yet Jianakowski.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
Like, I've gone on and on and on about Luckily
it's been over a many years stretch, so you're not,
you know, really sick of it. Yet That's what Bill
O'Brien did with Kaymi not drafting in there. But this
guy's going to keep us from having to ever care
about this really for his the rest of his coaching career.
Why he did that the razing offense was going to suck, Well,

(01:42:35):
he knew he could kick yea even with issues like
at that point in fair Baron's career. There the kicker
he is today is not the kicker he was then
he's gotten a second extension since then, a well deserved one.
But how nice is it for your GM, who doesn't
need the extra paperwork to not have to find a
kicker off the street, spend a third, fourth, fifth round

(01:42:55):
pick on a kicker, and yet all these other kicker
that's kicking well once you find for as long as
you can. The Raiders certainly did that with Janikowski. Is
that really at this point, this far removed from it,
is drafting Janikowski in the first round looked at as
bad now? It isn't, is it? It seems bad at
the time. It seemed bad at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
But I don't know this, Yeah, but I don't know
that it's looked at as good. You know, like, Okay, great,
you hit on a kicker in the first round. You
still drafted a kicker in the first round. I mean,
how many?

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
How many?

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
How many games did they win during his career per
season on average? You know, like, it just seems like
if you're making a first round pick, it better really
help your franchise win a lot of games.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
He kicked for seventeen years. It seems like it really
helped their team. And you know what you're saying you.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Probably could have gotten that type of production elsewhere or
not in the draft.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
So you want me to say, oh my god, they
took Janikowski and passed on Chad Pennington. Is that what
you want? No, because Chad Pennington wasn't a good quarterback,
but he was drafted immediately after him, immediately by what team,
by Woody Johnson's team exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
So organizations good, two organizations that haven't mattered since before
the seventies.

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
Just a quick glance first round picks. He was taking
seventeen Sebastian Janikowski the key I'm sure I put this
on our show tweet earlier two and a half hours ago.
Number one topic, Sebastian Janikowski. Did the Raiders make a
mistake in two thousand? So we'll continue that conversation here.
He was taking seventeenth overall in the two thousand first round.
Sean Alexander was taking two picks later. Clearly had a

(01:44:30):
better career. He's borderline Hall of Fame caliber player, almost
ten thousand rushing yards. He was awesome. He had a
great career. There's probably nobody else in the first round
that had a great career. Keith Bullock was a good player.
Anthony Beck was a nice tight end. That's the basically
the second half of the first round. There were thirty
one picks. Who was number one that year in two thousand.

(01:44:52):
This is what you're good at. No, it's not not
not draft now when you're telling me it's draft. It's
the only person with this first name to ever go
number one in the But I could be wrong. Even
though it's a regular name, you just don't associate with
a lot of football players. His name was Courtney Courtney
Brown right before LaVar Arrington. Wow. And then he took

(01:45:12):
LeVar Arrington and Pennington in the same draft. The Redskins
had the second pick and the third pick they took Errington.
The Jets had three first round picks. But not until
the second.

Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
Time I'm thinking of I'm mixing up LeVar Arrington with
Bart Scott. Wow, which isn't even close to that is
that actually might be the most embarrassing mix up I've
ever made on this show.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
And that's saying something. One Hall of Famer from that draft,
and I don't think there will be anymore. Not Janikowski.
He's known now for his hair, which he didn't have then. Wow.
So he didn't have hair before and now he does.
And if that's the case, then you've gotten a piece

(01:45:56):
or had some work done. And it was extremely noticeable
when he said, where'd you get that hair?

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
Brian Lacker, Oh boy, yeah, well that's that's a big one.
That's an absolutely Yeah, that was a that was a hit.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
Yeah. What pick was that? He was ninth? Geez Courtney Brown?
How long did he play? I think he played maybe
five or six years. Lacker, n what a terrible draft.
Some people weren't sure if he would be able to
do what he did at Utah because it was a

(01:46:31):
little bit of a tweener status big safety, smaller linebacker,
perfect defense. He was awesome. I said, Utah, that was incorrect.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
New Mexico, Yes, okay, well it's what he did in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
Have just taken the safe rout. He was from the
middle of nowhere, flyover country.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Yes, you know, since it's still sort of election season,
interesting stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
All right, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
Again, I don't feel right about this weekend and Justin
Rodgers joining us.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
Again seriously, But here's the thing. That week has been
the bringing the clean ex edition of the A team.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
You just call it crying all you want when we
come in here on Monday afternoon and they've lost by
like three touchdowns because CJ died.

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
Okay, for the first time ever, can you do something
for us four thirty on Friday? Please? What's that? Take
the lines to cover? No, I won't. They're only supposed
to win by three or three and a half. You
just said they're gonna win by three touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
The Jets were only supposed to win by what was
it again, two and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
Yeah, they did covered by more. Yeah, exactly. All right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
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Speaker 10 (01:48:43):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
I say?

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
It was a.

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Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
Signature segment? Time it is Thursday. Several candidates here singure segment.
Since you've got to hear me sing. Trying to decide
if you're going to get to hear me sing again
in the very near future. I'm leaning towards no, but
it's possibly still yes. That story for a later show.
So what's up with that? You have a couple of items.
I will begin and then see the floor to you

(01:49:15):
for a number of awesome topics, I'm sure for what's
up with that? The minds in the SEC. The Houston Texans,
like every other team in the NFL, made an announcement
today they're a candidate for twenty twenty four Fan of
the Year. Many of you probably know her, have seen her,
might even be friends with her, have enjoyed games with

(01:49:35):
her known as the Horns, and that her hat features horns.
Her name is Patty and she is the nominee this year.
For the Houston Texans. Big competition around the NFL get
to you get named at the NFL Honors event, you
represent the team. You've already won that, so to speak,

(01:49:56):
as the nominee gets to represent the team at the
super Bowl in New Orleans. So congratulations to Patty and
best of luck to her, less luck to the other
thirty one nominees sit like this nominee. So she's what
I would kind of expect the choice to be very recognizable.

(01:50:16):
Diehard fan, been with the team throughout, easily spotted by
other fans, has maybe a little bit of a personality
beyond just I don't mean your individual personalit. I mean
everybody knows who that has. Oh she's at the game,
Oh he is here today. We have a lot of
those fans. Every team does this particular fan for a
different team inside the AFC South, I might not have
expected to be the nominee. He has, I believe, been

(01:50:40):
discussed on the show, but we have never featured him
on the show like we're about to now. I present
you the twenty twenty four nominee for NFL Fan of
the Year, representing the Indianapolis Colts. All right, Colt seasons here,
Let's go cold woo. This is our Colts. This is

(01:51:02):
our team. We please blo. This is our Colts, whether
winner lose, we love them. For the shoe beat the
Texans doesn't get his gut paid back. This is our team.
More go court. That was the anthem that Colts fan

(01:51:26):
Seth I'm sure wrote and recorded to hype up the
team to get fans ready and he for his efforts
as a long time fan of the Indianapolis Colts and
now a much more recent singer to show his fandom
for the Indianapolis Colts. Seth Erskins the twenty twenty four

(01:51:48):
NFL Fan of the Year nominee for the Indianapolis Colts.
He was at the facility received his nomination, his Super
Bowl tickets, and I'm sure some inspiration for future songs
getting his team ready for upcoming games. That was taken
from Week one's failed attempt at helping the Colts win

(01:52:08):
over the text, I don't know who I'm more angry
at right now? Him? Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
And by the way, I'm also angry at the NFL
and the Colts because they're going to try and reward
this idiot.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
He's a fan. I hate him. You don't, I do,
you don't. I don't want to hear that ever again.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
I'd rather listen to Clay Walker on loop for twenty
four hours singing that stupid text and song and the
national anthem in hell?

Speaker 3 (01:52:31):
Can hear that again? Week ten? I could deliver you
eight maybe now nine? Did he have like an aneurysm?
I think he maybe got a little overmodulated, just a
little a little bit, huh, a little bit. Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
I don't like him or his family after hearing that.
It's just that that's of luck to you, Seth. I
hope you come in anywhere, but first I hope you
come in thirty third. That's what I hope, Seth. And
I hope no one ever gives you a microphone ever again.
You know, some people say the same thing about me.
I get it, I get it, but I've never made
anybody's ears bleed like that.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
It's got three YouTube channels. He loves it. Yes, yes,
he's a video and technical directory. The upload that for
your blood to all three of them works at a
you like. Lots of people are fans of people that
work at their local McDonald's, which he does.

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
You know, I worked at McDonald's once, and I didn't
make anyone's ears bleed like that.

Speaker 3 (01:53:23):
That was deplorable. I mean, I was just it's it's
it's okay, man, it's okay. It's not okay. That's what
I'm trying to explain to you, Seth. You wanted to
feature him, and I'm glad that I did.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
All Right, I'm moving on to another topic because I'm
getting angry and my blood pressure is rising over something.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
His heart and soul into supporting the Colts whether win
or lose. Are those the lyrics I'm just reading off
the bio sent out with the NFL's release on his nomination.
I hate him, that was don't Why can't you just
not like the song? Why do you have to hate
them because he's the one that's saying it be nice?

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
Come on now, I really really, really strongly dislike him
in a hateful kind of way. How's that is that? Nicer? Oh? Stupid, Seth?
You know what else is stupid? Putting a live tiger
on the sidelines at a college football game. Now, I
realized this happening Mike all the time, right, And I
realized they've even done this before. Until I stopped doing

(01:54:20):
it in what twenty fifteen when Mike the sixth.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
At the suggestions of the preference with tigers Tigers stories
that also include mikeeah our stories about the hangover.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Well, obviously, but he was in a car, and he
was Mike Tyson's and he was also in.

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
A suite at the Caesar's Palace. Caesar's Palace? Is this
the real Caesars Palace? Does he live here? I'm not
getting a sick im a beeper.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
Yeah, I didn't realize that this started back in nineteen
thirty six, the LSU Tigers began bringing a live caged tiger.
Well thanks for putting it in a cage back in
nineteen thirty six, LSU. Anyway, they stopped it in twenty fifteen,
as we mentioned, at the suggestion of veterinarians who looked
after the tiger at the time, citing health concerns. I

(01:55:11):
wonder what those health concerns could have been for the tiger,
and how much more of a concern they were than
the concern of the people's safety around you in the
stadium in which a.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
Live tiger was located.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
But yeah, that's apparently going to return this Saturday when
LSU plays Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
You mean our college football game of the week at first.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
Colds another game where I will not be taking the
whatever you told me to do earlier of gambling propensity.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
Okay, So anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
So they're expected to bring in a tiger from out
of state, which is even dumber. It's not even an
Louisiana tiger for an LSU game featuring a live tiger. Okay,
And this is who's this person, oh, Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry.

Speaker 3 (01:55:57):
This was his quote.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
I think the opportunity to bring our mascot back onto
the field is an unbelievable opportunity. You know what the
fans thought, not that this is so stupid. Landry didn't
even go to LSU. Why does he have such a
I can't clean that up for this. It is just
the need to dunk on experts. Shame on the VET politicians,

(01:56:23):
who I am quite sure have never treated a bleeping
tiger giving him cover. And as you would imagine in
a situation like this where animals are used in a
sports setting, that stupid organization known as PETA also is
not on board.

Speaker 3 (01:56:39):
Whether the tiger is confined to campus or shipped in
from elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
No reputable facility would subject a tiger to such chaos
and stress.

Speaker 3 (01:56:48):
You suck peta chaos and stress.

Speaker 2 (01:56:51):
How about subjecting people to an animal that can eat
them if it gets loose in the stands.

Speaker 3 (01:56:56):
There's going to be a few fans at this game.
That's very stressful.

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
What we've learned this segment is that live tigers and
stadiums and Seth absolutely suck and they're bad ideas no
matter which way you slice it, one.

Speaker 3 (01:57:09):
Way or the other.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
And you shouldn't be rewarding Seth for doing what he
did with his non voice the.

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Speaker 3 (01:58:45):
Wex you will reopened the segment briefly. I know there
was probably an opportunity on the second story, Dan for
you to weigh in on the Mike the Tiger portion
of the conversation because you have a little bit more
experienced with death Valley Night Games, fandom, sec animals that
can eat you together. I mean there are multiple teams.

(01:59:07):
They added another one with the Longhorns joining the SEC
that do have animals as part of their history, whether
they still visit the field on game day or not,
which Beevo does. Texas A and M joined the SEC
not too long ago. They also have a animal representing
the university, often around football games, but not always on

(01:59:30):
the field, Mike the Tiger. The idea of uh Tiger
being a part of this weekend's game did seem a
bit odd to me.

Speaker 11 (01:59:39):
You yeah, I mean they also stopped using Mike the
sixth on the field because Mike was dealing with cancer,
So that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
Sorry, ac hey man, I'm finding out all sorts of
information after the fact.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
Right, But the idea of using a different tiger in
the last seven years would have been an option. Yes, Well,
for the.

Speaker 11 (02:00:02):
Most part, people are kind of like, why are we
doing this? I mean, most LSU fans I've seen, they're like,
this is really what we're spending state resources on?

Speaker 3 (02:00:10):
Like, yeah, it's kind of neat, but yeah, we're running
out of money.

Speaker 11 (02:00:14):
Look, when you're the governor of the State of Louisiana
and you upset LSU fans, Well, then it usually doesn't
go well for you.

Speaker 3 (02:00:22):
What would upset LSU fans this weekend?

Speaker 11 (02:00:24):
Jalen Milroe, Well, that's and yeah, I would say that
that's probably it. I mean A and M did a
huge part of it, Miller Moss and USC. That was
the one that hurt the most.

Speaker 3 (02:00:34):
Yeah, the quarterback who didn't even make it through the
season part of that win for USC. Just just real quickly,
here is there a hot seat for either coach that
loses this game?

Speaker 11 (02:00:47):
Not for for de boor I mean, you know, I
think it's a lot of understanding that there was transfers,
everything else, attrition to the program, and he's not Nick Saban,
But for Brian Kelly, let's just say, I don't think
people would be upset if maybe an NFL parachute came
his way. I think that there would be a lot
of fans who would say, eh, you.

Speaker 3 (02:01:07):
Know who, what team's owner is desiring going to college
to pluck Brian Kelly away to.

Speaker 2 (02:01:17):
Run the Dolphins their football team would be the first time.

Speaker 3 (02:01:21):
Well, the Dolphins, I'm not saying untouchable. They're the issue.
There is less him and more we stuck our money
into a quarterback that clearly has some injury concerns. I
don't think Mike's done a great job. But when they've
been healthy, they won football games. They have a good roster,
and they should be continued. They should continue to win,
barring hell. So, I don't know that Miami's the opening.

(02:01:43):
We have two openings already. New Orleans is one that
would be something if he went across the street basically
to New Orleans from Baton Route. I don't a little
further than that. Well, I'm trying to make it sound
less far. I don't view it, as you know, I
do look at these coaches that make the leap from
the college ranks to the NFL and sometimes even vice

(02:02:04):
versa like Bill O'Brien did more recently. What kind of
experience do they have where they're going? And Brian Kelly
has none. Brian Kelly has been a part of zero
NFL organizations so far during his long coaching career. I'm
not sure people realize how long he's been coaching. He's
been a head coach since nineteen ninety one. He's been

(02:02:25):
a head coach for thirty years already, doesn't have any
NFL experience, who's a head coach in his early thirties,
so he's only in his early sixties now. Just doesn't
strike me as I'm on my way to the NFL.
It does strike me as, like you said, Dan, I
think this would be a real tough loss to stomach
this season. Losing Alabama shouldn't be a tough loss to stomach,

(02:02:47):
but over the course of the time he's been there,
over the course of this season and what is still
maybe ahead of them, Yeah, I think this would be
a pretty tough loss to stomach. We'll find out tomorrow
what the three of us think about that game, as
we may pick among the fifteen we will make on
Stone Cold Locks well.

Speaker 2 (02:03:03):
But more importantly, more importantly is a couple of tweets
that have come in over the last ten minutes or so.
The latest is from Anthony who says, so Alabama should
obviously counter with an elephant on the sideline, right.

Speaker 3 (02:03:18):
Happen? That would be amazing. I mean, come on, have
you ever watched the Handlers of Ralphie during the years
where Colorado was handling a buffalo? And watch the Handlers
of Bevo as they continue to dress up, well, they're
cowboys literally, that is the organization. Yeah, uh, it takes
There's there's more to it than I think the idiots

(02:03:40):
that we sound like here think there is. Yeah, just
hold onto the reins. Everything's fine. I mean, just hope
that uga doesn't walk by, and everything should be fine.
There's a lot more to the care for the animal.
That's just what you see on game day. So you're
taking me into a visualization of the Alabama club organization
in charge of the elephant on the sideline.

Speaker 2 (02:04:04):
I mean, I haven't been that close to an elephant
since I went to the now defunct Wringling Brothers and
Barnum and Bailey circus.

Speaker 3 (02:04:11):
I'm pretty sure there's no thought. There's no meeting, there's
no focus group, there's no zoom on campus among leaders
at the university saying should we maybe think about bringing
an elephant to games?

Speaker 2 (02:04:25):
And yet I still think it's not the most dangerous
animal in the stadium of the two.

Speaker 3 (02:04:29):
Would you like to see Michigan trot out a wolverine?

Speaker 1 (02:04:32):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:04:33):
How about Wisconsin bringing a badger to the party. That's
even worse. No, Minnesota's fine, though, right, it's just a gopher.
Let me know.

Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
I'll let you know when we get to an animal.
That's acceptable. And the other tweet in the last ten
minutes was from a guy named Robert.

Speaker 3 (02:04:52):
Who says, Hey, Robert Yeoman.

Speaker 2 (02:04:55):
He says, yo, that cult fans song is a song
they sing at my church. It's called but this is
My God. He just changed the words. He's a fraud.

Speaker 3 (02:05:04):
I think most people were aware of that, that it
is a song many people are familiar with from church.

Speaker 2 (02:05:11):
Well, we were talking about it during the break. I
had never I don't think I've heard that particular song.

Speaker 3 (02:05:16):
In the many, many, many times I've gone to church,
I have also not heard that song.

Speaker 2 (02:05:22):
I'm willing to bet that for every time you've attended
a church or religious service of any kind, I've gone fifty.

Speaker 3 (02:05:30):
No even kidding, I've been to church, but probably I
could count on my hand the number of on my
fingers the number of times I've been. And you know
we were too service.

Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
Yeah, Well, we were discussing this during the break and
Robert's tweet came up, and I was talking about the
fact that when he when he sent that in, it
reminded me of another guy that I don't like who sings,
and that's Josh Grobin. If you like Josh Grobin, I
don't like you. What.

Speaker 3 (02:05:58):
Oh he didn't seem religious, so he has the most beautiful,
soothing voice in the world. All his songs aren't religious.

Speaker 2 (02:06:03):
I was watching a documentary one time on a legendary
record producer, David Foster, and he was like the guy
that like resurrected Chicago and made them like pop hits
in the eighties with Peter Setara, you know, the karate
Kid all that kind of stuff, you know, good music.
Then the part about how he was the producer for
Josh Grobin started and I turned the thing off.

Speaker 3 (02:06:22):
You know who Josh Grobin is to me when I
see him, some guy that looks like Jesus. He works
at an Attech. It's Michael Uh, Michael Bolton.

Speaker 2 (02:06:33):
Yes, but he didn't have a beard, that's what he
looks like, or shaggy hair anyone he.

Speaker 3 (02:06:38):
Does in most of his other pictures other than whatever
you're visualizing. That's why I think of a mess.

Speaker 2 (02:06:44):
Michael Bolton, Corporate accounts, payable, Nina speaking just a moment, that's.

Speaker 3 (02:06:50):
Just the best movie ever.

Speaker 2 (02:06:52):
Oh man, I gotta tell you about something during the
break that I cannot tell you about. On camera or
on the air. But it has to do with that movie.
And it actually came up last night discussion with my what.

Speaker 3 (02:07:02):
My favorite Houston Texans edition this offseason is the subject
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coming up on Sunday night. The Ravens and Bengals kick
off the NFL week with their game tonight and probably
the focus I think this week should once and for
all kind of put an end to things. Colts changed
quarterbacks last week and didn't win. If that remains the
same this week, they're sitting at four in six regardless
of what the Texans do. Will Levice practiced in full

(02:09:15):
today with the Titans, might make his return so he
can help the Titans lose to the Chargers this weekend,
and noted NFL newsbreaker Jay Gruden posting today that Trevor
Lawrence was headed to surgery to correct what was ailing him,
only to be met by Ian Rappaport saying, not so fast,

(02:09:36):
my friend. That might be an option, but that is
not what the current plan is. I tell you, my
brother there drumped the gun. But it doesn't look like
Trevor Lawrence is even going to suit up, which actually
might be good for his team since they've won one
more game with him in the last eight months than
they have with CJ. Bethard. Bethard probably won't start either,

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though he was just signed. They will turn to former
fifteenth overall pick Mac Jones for their game this week,
and as you heard earlier in the week, the Texans,
the Colts, the Titans, and the Jaguars per Vegas are
not favored to win their games this weekend. Texans pull
off an upset, their division race probably won't be talked

(02:10:21):
about anymore by me the rest of the season for
the AFC South. That's what's happening. Bengals, huge game for
them and that they could get to five hundred could
also knock the Ravens back down to six and four.
Steelers back on the field this week at six and two.
They've got the Commanders, so we could see some things
changing in that division this week. For those reasons, the
other two divisions are not contested. The Chiefs are eight

(02:10:43):
to zero, and the Bills haven't even bigger lead than
anybody else in the NFL. That is what is headed
towards another year. Where as we get to the postseason,
there's a really good chance the AFC's number one seed
is Kansas City, and the team most likely to knock
them off is seated right behind them at two, the

(02:11:04):
Buffalo Bills. You might like the Ravens more than that,
But if the Ravens don't get to the division lead
and thus a home game and a better road probably
to meeting the Chiefs at some point later in the postseason,
I don't know that I would rate them there. They
might be getting Keaton Mitchell back tonight. He'd probably run
third string behind Justice Hill and Derrick Henry, but a

(02:11:25):
dynamic player could certainly help what they do offensively. And again,
Lamar Jackson has been absolutely spectacular this year back inside
the Texans facility, though we go here for football. At five,
I mentioned your favorite offseason addition for the Texans. So
not Kalin Bullock, not Kamari Lasser, not Aziz El Shaier,
not Daniel Hunter, not Deniko Autrey, not any of the

(02:11:48):
other defensive linemen they added, not Stefan Diggs, not any
other draft picks, but rather Joe Mixon, the man to
wear his number twenty eight. I kind of had a
few people on social media either quizzical or alarmed with
something I posted yesterday from practice. Probably should have added

(02:12:09):
more detail, which I later did. The running backs usually
were working out right in front of us at the
beginning of the media viewing portion of practice, and the
running back was all one of them. Joe Mixon was
working out with Danny Bartt, going through his normal pre
practice routine because Damien Paris was hurt not practicing, and
I didn't list the other three running backs that practice

(02:12:32):
every day in that tweet. I only mentioned that JJ
Taylor was off working with the special teams. Well, so
was Daria Gumbwale, and so was Juar Jordan, who's on
the practice squad, and so kind of sounded like there
was something wrong with the other guys, there's not and
I put everybody's fears away and back at ease today
that were popping. The Sled posted that as well, Mixing

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and the other three running backs both yesterday and today.
The off field locker room vibe of Joe Mixon was
discussed by both c J. Stroud and by their offensive
coordinator Bobby Slot. I think we kind of know a
lot of this from having a chance to talk to
him ourselves and see him around the team this year,
and not many people inside the building knew much more
of him than what they kind of seen. CJ. Stroud

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acknowledged that, you know, he got to know him or
met him when they played last year and kind of
knew what he was all about when he got here.
What CJ. Stroud said about him yesterday is, especially in
the absence of maybe some other leaders offensively, this is
a leader and his mentality certainly carries through all parts
of their offense, and he does something I hope everybody

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appreciates inside a team structure. Here's what CJ said about
Joe Mixon.

Speaker 8 (02:13:40):
You know he had that dog mentality, you know, and
you know he brought it here, you know, and that's
something we needed for sure, you know, we need it.
And one thing I love about Joe Joe called you out,
Joe called me out, and Joe called his lineman out, Joe,
you know, coaches out. He don't care, you know, and
ultimately that's what you want because you know, at the
end of the day, like we all came here from
one common goal and that's to win. And so you know,

(02:14:00):
if that's heard somebody feelings, you know, we've grown me
and we get paid to do this, so you know
you got to be able to you know, understand it.
You know, you take it from because he really just
cares about the game, you know so, and he cares
about his teams and his coaches.

Speaker 3 (02:14:12):
So yeah, I love Joe. I have been over to
Joe's locker multiple times over the course of the season.
I've yet to notice any list with check marks by it.
I've called out CJ. I've called out Danny Barrett, I've
called out Damiko, I've called out Bobby, I've called out
the offensive line coach. I haven't noticed that. So I
don't know if he's obviously poking fun. Those are players

(02:14:34):
good teams always have, and he's from a good team.
He's from a Super Bowl team, an AFC Championship winning team,
and there's no doubt he brought that to Euston and
he loves it here. He does love it here.

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
And as a bonus, did you see that he got
a little political the other night?

Speaker 3 (02:14:54):
He's his tweets. I appreciate for the number one reason
I appreciate what he posts on Twitter most of the time.

Speaker 2 (02:15:01):
Or X is there brief? This is two emojis. There's
not even words. And I say political for effect. It's
not necessarily, it's just that, well was it the timing
of the release of the post? So it's a quote tweet? Okay,
so that probably is an indicator. At about ten twenty
one on election night, he quote tweeted at I am

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Cardi B. Now, if you're not familiar, Cardi B did
a little late campaigning for one of the candidates.

Speaker 3 (02:15:32):
I'm not going to say which one, but it wasn't me. Well,
why don't you just read her tweet?

Speaker 2 (02:15:38):
Her tweet at nine to twenty one ish, but an
hour earlier was and I can't do a Cardi B impression,
No problem, exactly, fine, our ears of blood enough today
we need to hail Mary is what she wrote.

Speaker 3 (02:15:52):
What are the two emojis that he quote tweeted laughing
crying it's rolling on the floor laughing. Oh, is that
the exact terminal? Correct?

Speaker 2 (02:16:00):
See, but that's not the one that I use, and
the one that I use is similar. So what's the
one that I use called I don't know, crying laughing, sure,
and the other one is dead skull the skull So
he was dying laughing at we need to hail Mary,
which could mean anything.

Speaker 3 (02:16:19):
I say.

Speaker 2 (02:16:19):
He got political again, that's for effect. Maybe he was
laughing at Yeah, she's pretty much on point. Maybe he
was laughing at her. We don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:16:27):
He takes the field on a Sunday night with an
opportunity to do something no Texans player has ever done before.

Speaker 2 (02:16:34):
Can I before you tell me what that is? Can
I tell you my favorite response to his tweet? I
am about to call a pick six. I'm apologetically even
cutting you off.

Speaker 3 (02:16:45):
That was so fun? Yeah, yeah, well sort of.

Speaker 2 (02:16:49):
It was a Tim Walls reference because he's he said
somebody was going to call a pick six in the
midst of the campaign.

Speaker 3 (02:16:57):
You don't call there's only one other person on the ticket.
So I think it's Okay to add him to it.
First running back ever in Texas history with five consecutive
one hundred yard rushing games. Seriously not been done before.
He and Aaron have done it for Aaron Foster. That's
why four times each Okay have done it. Yeah, four times,
but he did it five. No, Aaron Foster has never
done that. If he does Joe, so he's attempting to

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do that. I think there's a really good chance that
he does.

Speaker 2 (02:17:20):
I was about to say, as much as we've talked
about the Lions defense, whether or not it's good or overall,
but the front is they get after the they get
after the passer when the healthy right, I feel like
you're leaving the door cracked for a Texans win, unlike
what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (02:17:39):
No, it's wi Zadarius Smith is on their team. Now.
They've have gone week after week. I think it's week
three weeks without Aiden Hutchinson and they weren't Nobody else
was rushing the quarterback from their front to begin with.
They certainly didn't start after he left, and I think
that's why they tried to fill that all I mentioned.
Bobby Slok also had some thoughts very similar sounding thoughts

(02:18:00):
about his toy in the backfield that they have deployed
brilliantly for the most part this year. Slowk on mixing.

Speaker 10 (02:18:07):
I mean, anytime Joe talks, everyone listens. You know, he
got a track record, you can see it. And how
he plays, you can see how much he cares, you
can see the relationship he has with his fellow teammates.
He's big, He's been to the Big Dance before, you know,
so his words are really needed for everybody. And just
just understanding what it takes, Understanding how hard it is,

(02:18:29):
Understanding even though sometimes you want to get too high
or get too low, you can't. You got to find
a way to stay as even keel as you can.
And again everything everything is one game at a time,
and doing everything we can to get into the tournament.

Speaker 3 (02:18:43):
He basically sounded like he was talking about March Madness
twice during that.

Speaker 2 (02:18:48):
Why do they say that? Why do they say things
like program and tournament?

Speaker 3 (02:18:53):
Every full game for mixing as a textan has been
one hundred yard effort. The Bears game was an He
probably wasn't going to get there with or without injury.
But now I have an excuse to make over under
sixty eighth that I missed that week. Yes, he's. If
you had the over under at one O one and
a half in any of the other games, it went
over every time. He's also run for a touchdown in

(02:19:13):
all five of those games. Also, he has an additional
two touchdown games, so he's got six scores on the ground,
the other one through the air. They need to use
him in the passing game this week, which they neglected
to do a week ago. His performance, I anticipate will
be very, very similar to the previous healthy Joe mixing games.
I wish I could tell you that would dictate that

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they're in a good spot because of it. Don't think
that will necessarily be true even for their own offense,
let alone keeping up with whatever the Lions have in
store for the Texans against Sunday Night Football Primetime Texans
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We now return to Adam Clinton and Adam Wexelwerd on
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:21:05):
Boy, I'll tell you what with the amount of jumping
around we've done today on the show, wex case you missed,
it's gonna be a doozy for Dan next segment.

Speaker 3 (02:21:15):
There's a host of things. We probably have not devoted
enough time to very little chatter because there's very little
going on from a concrete news standpoint, with the GM
Winter meetings getting through the week. I have something on that.

Speaker 6 (02:21:28):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (02:21:29):
Well, it's our old buddy. No, you don't have anything
on that. I do, and you're gonna listen to it?
You are not.

Speaker 2 (02:21:36):
You are gonna listen to him because you know why. No,
this means it's definitely gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (02:21:42):
I love making. I'm gonna I'm gonna let allow you
to play this show. I didn't say that so I
can stop you. I want you to continue so I
can stop you.

Speaker 11 (02:21:55):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (02:21:56):
You know what to do here, you know what to do?
He set it up? Please, John Hayman. Yes, who we love? Yes,
I mean we heart pounding out of my chest as
you speak. You know what he's said? What? What do
you I want you to to try to explain what
you're trying to set up? He did? What you love?

Speaker 2 (02:22:18):
These guys do during the off season say something without
really saying anything.

Speaker 3 (02:22:23):
I don't. I'm not listening to it, so if you
play it, I will leave.

Speaker 2 (02:22:29):
All If you see if he leaves the studio. I
want to see this on television. I want everybody to watch.
Wex get so mad about it. He goes out that
door right there.

Speaker 3 (02:22:39):
I'll have to do with walk off camera. Do you
want me to like give like a countant?

Speaker 6 (02:22:42):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:22:42):
No, all he did? If you, I don't, I don't
even want to let our listeners hear, because all he's
doing is what anybody could do. He's saying, here's what
Dana Brown said publicly. And if you hear what Dana
Brown said publicly, then I think you might be able
to assume the astros are blank. Are you ready to
feel bad?

Speaker 6 (02:23:01):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (02:23:01):
That's it?

Speaker 2 (02:23:01):
Are you ready to feel bad? I want to feel bad.
I you would be so proud of me, Like I
saw that.

Speaker 3 (02:23:06):
This was plucked and placed in our audio vault for
use by any and all shows we have on this
station at their leisure and decision. And I'm like, but why,
I know, because if it's not the way you want
to do something, no, no, no, no, no no no no.

Speaker 2 (02:23:21):
Here's the deal. Here's how you're gonna be proud of me.
I sent this link to this audio last night to somebody.

Speaker 3 (02:23:27):
Is this your doing?

Speaker 1 (02:23:28):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:23:28):
Yeah, okay, I continue say you already feel bad? It's awesome. No,
I feel better.

Speaker 2 (02:23:32):
Then I sent I send it to somebody that we
both know, and I wrote I can't say exactly what
I wrote, but I was based.

Speaker 3 (02:23:40):
To like this guy. I just use a different word
than guy.

Speaker 2 (02:23:44):
And the person responded and said he's not wrong, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:23:50):
So, in an effort to change slightly my own horrible
on airways, let's hear what John Hayman had to say
about the Astros pursuit of free agent third baseman Alex Bregman.
The Yankees question mark Bregman's a fit for both New
York teams.

Speaker 6 (02:24:09):
I think Houston's pretty likely for Bregman.

Speaker 3 (02:24:11):
I mean they are talking at this point, the agent, excuse.

Speaker 1 (02:24:14):
Me, the general manager of the Astros, Dana Brown's.

Speaker 3 (02:24:18):
Basically he's very optimistic.

Speaker 2 (02:24:19):
Okay, stop stop talking, John, because first of all, he's
either drunk or he's choking on a piece of chicken tenders. Fine,
is all I hear right now? Like, why is he
talking like that? I've never heard him sound like that.
What happened to him?

Speaker 3 (02:24:38):
Better days?

Speaker 2 (02:24:39):
He's had better days, He's had better laryngitis. What happened
to John Hayman. What did you do to him? Nothing? Anyway,
he said something without saying anything. He said nothing, you're
talking really the winner. See, this is the part where
Wex does his thing. This is on brand. I brought
it all together. And by the way, if we hadn't
played even that much of that guy choking on a

(02:25:00):
chicken tender, everybody that's listening.

Speaker 3 (02:25:03):
To wash and wing like with bones and everything.

Speaker 2 (02:25:05):
No, it's a bone would sound different, that'd be like,
but the way he was doing it's just well, you
could still have like the the the voice box sort
of functions when you've got like something lodged in there
that's soft, which is what you got here. Just play
like two segments of it, seconds of it, Dan, I
want to hear that voice one more time, like he's
going through a medical emergency here as he tells us

(02:25:26):
what we already know the.

Speaker 3 (02:25:28):
Agent general Man.

Speaker 6 (02:25:32):
Basically that's enough.

Speaker 2 (02:25:34):
Like you couldn't clear your throat before you started this
on camera?

Speaker 3 (02:25:38):
Answer? What?

Speaker 2 (02:25:40):
But yeah, he he did everything that Wex hates. He
said the obvious. He didn't say any sort of like
formidable information about it.

Speaker 3 (02:25:50):
Understanding is Brian Cashman has reached out to Scott Boris
about both Juan Soto and Astro's Third Basement. Alex Bregman
and word is they've had substantive conversations about both. We
can't say that because he doesn't know that.

Speaker 2 (02:26:08):
It's so good, it's so on brand, it's so fascinating
how angry certain things make you in this business.

Speaker 3 (02:26:15):
We should do a little bit better job of tracking
things or listing things like who's on the list, what
makes you do this? Why can't you handle this?

Speaker 2 (02:26:22):
All the things that set us off our triggers, if
you will to do a segment on this show now
that we have an additional hour that is sponsored, for sure,
and it should be something with trigger in it, especially
especially now that the election is over and who got
into office is getting in because I'm guessing that people

(02:26:43):
aren't going to get as triggered anymore, or they're going
to be more triggered.

Speaker 3 (02:26:46):
But there's no in between you, so you're guessing, John
Hayman style, either people aren't gonna get triggered anymore, or
they're gonna get triggered even more. Yes, thanks John, they're talking.

Speaker 2 (02:26:57):
You know what that reminds me of that reminds me
of the scene in Jerry where Rod Tidwell goes up
to Tom Cruise. Well, let me, I'm mixing the real
life people with their character. Junior goes up to Jerry. Yeah, exactly,
and he says, he's like andre rt. He goes through
all these receivers names, He's like, and you're talking, I
mean like it's it's the same exact thing. You've got

(02:27:21):
agents discussing, discussing players with general managers and general managers
calling agents about certain guys and nothing's happening because until
it happens, it hasn't happened. And you're talking, that's what
it sounded like there, and John Hayman just said that
that's what he did, and it sends you into an absolute,

(02:27:41):
just orbital rage.

Speaker 3 (02:27:43):
You just go off into this to the stratosphere, the anger.
In an effort to keep us off track, did you
have a favorite or favorites? Cameos and Jerry Maguire a
host of obviously real live football related people made cam
at the end.

Speaker 2 (02:28:02):
You remember him from the Super Bowl party that was
obviously the lead singer at the time of the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (02:28:08):
That's how you would refer to.

Speaker 2 (02:28:11):
GM of the Cardinals. You've run up the prices on
me for years. Now it's payback or whatever he said.
He's actually convincing. Let's see. The only reason, the only
person I'm actually upset about, by the way, because he
then did play an actual character in another lesser football
related film, Any given Sunday. How could you not somehow

(02:28:31):
squeeze in in a movie about agents and how slimy
they are? James Woods, Yeah, he'd be What character would
he have played?

Speaker 3 (02:28:38):
Would he have been Bob Sugar? No? Jay Moore did
a phenomenal John Did you wanted? You wanted more? You
wanted less? Jerry mel Kiper showed up. The guys in
the booth were obviously all there, Al and Dan and
Frank Warren. Warren Moon was there.

Speaker 2 (02:28:53):
He was at the bachelor party, you know, when she
lit his little black book on fire with a blow
towards Drew Bloods so also there, I think so he
hadn't yet been supplanted by Tom Brady and further setting
off his bitter roast.

Speaker 3 (02:29:09):
I think there was another one that we're missing that
was reallyin of it. Was also a big time athlete
celebrity at the time. She made a cameo.

Speaker 2 (02:29:19):
Oh, several of the actual real live not just Troy,
but the big time Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (02:29:25):
I feel like we're in that.

Speaker 2 (02:29:26):
If not Emmett and Michael Irvin, then the offensive line.
Maybe they were playing the Cardinals and it looked like.

Speaker 3 (02:29:32):
It was a real game.

Speaker 2 (02:29:34):
They just did a really good job. Well, it was
definitely at the stadium that they played in at the time.

Speaker 3 (02:29:38):
Very good Sun Devil Stadium sounds right, Tempe, sure before
they moved to Glendale and got a roof. You got it? Okay?

Speaker 2 (02:29:46):
Anything else that we need to talk about with the
Jerry maguire film from nineteen ninety six, by the way,
before we move.

Speaker 3 (02:29:51):
On, well you also snuck and remember the Tides. Is
there another football movie you want to waste any is
the one that I mentioned?

Speaker 2 (02:29:58):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm not wasting time, I'm caning time.

Speaker 3 (02:30:02):
What movie? What football movie? Do you think you're going
to be reminded of? Sunday Night to Texans Lions? Bad
News Bears. That's a baseball exactly, That's how bad. It's
the first movie that came to mind, and I'm not
even sure what's what happened? Yeah, you had one that
came to right to mind, only because it was the

(02:30:23):
football part of it. I don't even know who won
or lost. The game that you actually got to see
was Last Boy Scout. It was just bad news on
the football field.

Speaker 2 (02:30:32):
Nobody won that first game because the guy, the running
back lost his head. But then he went on to
create Tibo, everything was fine. Why do I have an
unhealthy fascination with that movie? Probably because Bruce Willis.

Speaker 3 (02:30:45):
You a huge fan of Bruce Willis, You probably were
a big fan of Damon Wayn's girlfriend of the movie
who her name's Halle Berry? Yeah? How did she die
in a drive by? Of course? I mean totally saw
that coming. Of course. I guess what was his name?
What was his quarterback? Is named Jimmy?

Speaker 2 (02:31:03):
Jimmy what though? Jimmy Dix? Oh, that's right, And he
threw a football at his face. It broke his nose
in the jacuzzie. All right, I think we've got a
I think we've got them all squared away, at least
all the ones that matter, as I sabotage the segment
like as I want to do, especially now.

Speaker 3 (02:31:19):
The way so you could play John Hayman. Yeah, well
it worked. I guess got you all riled. How much
more our listeners know about where Alex Pregnant's going to land.

Speaker 2 (02:31:29):
I'm telling you, when he resigns with the Astros, I'm
gonna make Dan play it again that day. What did
he say? What was his exact phrasing? Dan, I mean,
if you have to play it again in the next
thirty seconds. Well, I'm just saying if he wanted to,
he could because we had time for it. All right,
we will actually get to the things that we have
not talked about in the very next segment.

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missed it, what have we missed? Despite being super focused

(02:33:55):
and tremendously informative over the first fourteen segments of the show,
we've heard from c J.

Speaker 11 (02:34:01):
Stroud today, But a lot of people around the country
believe that c J. Stroud is significantly struggling this season.
Chris Sim's on his Unbuttoned podcast. He's one of those
people who believes that.

Speaker 6 (02:34:12):
Abby Slowek is not doing enough to help c J.

Speaker 3 (02:34:14):
Stroud.

Speaker 6 (02:34:14):
Right now. C J Stroud right now is being misused
and it's a shame.

Speaker 3 (02:34:18):
When c J.

Speaker 6 (02:34:19):
Stroud goes ten for thirty, there's an issue. It's the
most accurate quarterback in football. Like I said on Sunday Night,
this is institutional. This is a problem with their offense overall.
They're not teaching c J. Stroud anything about pass protection
or where he's got to go with the football. That
shows up because when they get tricked with certain blitzes.

Speaker 3 (02:34:35):
You could tell c. J.

Speaker 6 (02:34:36):
Stroud is like they said they were gonna handle all
these things. Where's my hot route? I didn't even know
who we were supposed to blitz or not. They blitzed five,
we had five offense alignment. I thought we'd be okay.
That's kind of what they told me all weekend meetings.
They're doing a disservice to him. Nobody's really taught him
about what's going on here and what happens if that
guy doesn't come and this guy doesn't blitz and do

(02:34:58):
all that. He's back there just wait, hey, anybody open?
Oh wait, I think I'm protected. Let me look around.
Anybody open?

Speaker 3 (02:35:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:35:05):
I think life is hard.

Speaker 3 (02:35:05):
On him right now. Well, first of all, there this
was part of about an eighteen minute portion of his
podcast dedicated to the Lions Texans matchup, and a lot
of what you heard there was not said in this form.
It was plucked little bits and pieces of what he
said because naturally, with all the time I had today,

(02:35:26):
I watched and listened to what he had to say
almost the entire eighteen minutes. We watched eighteen minutes of
Chris Simms listened to. It was pretty easy to do.
So there's a little bits and pieces of his conversation,
and if you go back and listen to everything, even
though it didn't sound like it here, a lot of
what he said sounded a lot like our shows in
the last three weeks. A lot of the reasons why
things aren't going well, and the fact that it you know,

(02:35:47):
I might not have said it this way, but an
institutional problem. Yeah. CJ. Strout is far too accurate. To
have multiple games in a three week span where he
can't succeed, and to have it an eleven for thirty
two day and a ten for thirty one day or
close to it. That certainly screams issues. Now, what he
said about not knowing protections, they're doing a disservice to

(02:36:09):
him by not teaching him that or going over that
or involving him in that. That sounded like something people
say when they don't really know. He could have been right,
but it wasn't coming from I've talked to people in
the organization, I've talked to CJ. Stroud. I know this
isn't happening. So I'm going to let everybody know, and
I'm glad djb enemy from ESPN made sure that those

(02:36:30):
who follow him at least know that not to be true,
because he quote tweeted this sound bite and said they
do teach him protections. He's taught the past block and calls.
He's talked to people in there about all these things.
Juice is the center. He does make the calls and
DJ's words here on his post according to the offensive Line,

(02:36:50):
I've talked to offensive linemen. I've talked to Juice makes
good calls. It's not evident with how they're performing. Which
is the day? You know, where are we drawing the
line between execution and information? You know we've had It's
a little bit harder to get it from the coaches
because are they protecting the players or are they being truthful?
Or who's to blame whether it's probably everybody? Do they

(02:37:13):
Are these calls just wrong because their preparation for the game,
which is led by the coaches, is wrong. Is the
execution wrong because the players don't get it? Is it
a physical issue? I think there's parts of all those
answers that fit in there. I'm not telling you to
go listen to all eighteen minutes of because I think
we already know because we the listeners of our show
and the two of us and Dan, we've been talking

(02:37:34):
about a lot of those things. Chris Strasser met with
the media today over the facility is their offensive line coach.
He described a lot of those same things. Believe we
have the guys that can get it done. It's a
matter of going out and making sure that we do.
It's as simple as that to them. When to us,
I do think there's more to it, because I think
there's a physical problem with too many of the five

(02:37:55):
players that they play at offensive line. I don't think
it's all they're missing locks mentally, or they're missing communications,
or everybody on the defense knows the call. They're all
sliding right and so they've appropriately called the defense that's
going to work against the confusion it creates. I think
there's just also a physical problem that means maybe you

(02:38:15):
do not have the right players out there to protect
your quarterback and run a successful passing game.

Speaker 2 (02:38:20):
That last part, I mean, honestly, I'm listening to that
soundby and maybe I'm just oversimplifying it, but to me,
it sounded like, no, that's not what's going on. Chris,
that's not he didn't suddenly forget how to read a
defense or react to what a defense is doing on
the fly. I mean, yeah, is it harder because he

(02:38:41):
has less time, of course, but it's like, are you
forgetting who you're talking about here and the things that
he's done, not just last year but this year, even
in spite of the fact that that line is atrocious.

Speaker 3 (02:38:52):
Yeah, it's something I think we'll fight against until the
personnel changes. Yeah, they played well well. They played well
enough last year with nearly the same group at different times.
Scruggs played some when he wasn't hurt, Patterson played some
when he wasn't hurt. Other than Kenyon Green, who was
hurt for the entire season. Howard Tunsell, you did have, George.
It's the same system and it's mostly the same players

(02:39:14):
taking the snaps, and they were clearly capable of providing
CJ enough time, enough protection to have a successfully run off.
All they want to do is operate. They're not trying
to go for four hundred yards five hundred yards of
offense every week. They just want to have real plays
that they can execute and move the ball into not
only up and down the field, but into the end zone.
And maybe maybe win more often than recently where they've

(02:39:37):
lost two of their last three. What else do we have?
All Right?

Speaker 11 (02:39:40):
So, yesterday on Instagram, Travis Kelcey just posted a pretty
innocuous post with a bunch of pictures from their Monday
night win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with the caption
arrowhead at night. Well, his comments started to light up,
like one that said, feel like maybe we could have
rescheduled this one for another day. Read the room, Travis,

(02:40:01):
was another one, Travis, please not right now?

Speaker 3 (02:40:04):
We're in morning now.

Speaker 11 (02:40:06):
Of course, Chiefs fans did come to his defense, like
one saying, dude, he literally just posted about a game.

Speaker 3 (02:40:12):
Yes, I'm the dumb one here in this instance and
many other times on the show they played this past weekend.
What what night did they play? Monday night? So they
played the Monday night game? And this post was posted yesterday, Tuesday. Okay,
so because it was Tuesday when it was posted, even

(02:40:32):
though he was talking about Monday night, this was taken
as a you are clearly a supporter of this candidate,
and your girlfriend is clearly a supporter of this candidate,
and that's why this post is out there.

Speaker 11 (02:40:45):
Am I following, Well, I mean, I think it's more
I just wanted to yell at somebody and for him,
obviously you pointed out. The other obvious is that's why
they wanted to jump on. But it's like he literally
just posted about a game.

Speaker 3 (02:40:57):
I do think it's worth noting as I'm working my
way through the research on this topic, it appears anything
he posts is followed with politically charged comments National tight
End Day. Last week he posted a video and that
was his entire caption. National tight End Day dubs each
of the first four comments, which are more recent than

(02:41:21):
when he posted it, because they it's sequenced by when
they were posted. All four of them are related to
the election this past Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (02:41:30):
That's what happens, though, when you are dating someone that
is as high profile and b very very much adamant
about which it is.

Speaker 3 (02:41:38):
Your high profile, and you give your opinion, then normally
this is the response. I'm sure there's more from in
case you missed it, but again, in case you missed it,
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Speaker 3 (02:42:26):
Back here for segment sixteen, final segment of the afternoon.
We'll be back here at tomorrow as usual. Now at
two in the afternoon, two to six for the A Team,
we'll run through some of our usual items and have
our last thoughts and a final injury update on both
Texans and the Detroit Lions. See what's going on with
Taylor Decker, their left tackle, and what's going on with

(02:42:47):
both Nico Collins and Will Anderson. Though I don't think
it's particularly good mentioned. We've got those tickets to give
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That is November ninth. That is just a couple of

(02:43:30):
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roughly half an hour ago, I was triggered. I was
triggered so much so that I threatened weekly because I
didn't do it, threaten to walk out of here, leave

(02:43:52):
my chair if something happened. It did happen. I enourage
you too. Yeah, I was kind of just talking, but
I wasn't really gonna do it. What or who What
was I triggered about? It's pretty simple. Just give us
the gentleman's name that I was triggered by just a
few minutes to go here on the show, you should
all know about it. We were merciless with the mocking
for his sound of his voice. But that's the answer

(02:44:14):
to the question. We're looking for you call in it
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is not me. No, that would be too easy and

(02:44:35):
too obvious and not very specific to any particular portion
of our show today. Are you ready for me to
put myself on the back because I'm ready. Uh yeah,
let me start, even though I have nowhere, no idea
where you're going. I was over Toyta Center last night
and the Rockets took care of the San Antonio Spurs,
got to five and three on the season, got to
over five hundred at home on the season, headed out

(02:44:58):
for this short road trip off so they win. They've
won four of their last five. Freddy Vee spectacular second
game in a row. His offense has been there. He
made every single two point shot he took in last
night's game, and he took nine of them, scored twenty
one points. A Jalen just glided through a game last night,

(02:45:18):
where he didn't need to be spectacular because they were
great defensively and the Spurs were bad pretty much all
the way around. They turned the ball over an enormous
amount early in the game, so the Rockets took a
big lead, kept the big lead, and were able to
get Jeff Greeni's first baskets of the season, Jay Shaun
Tait his first basket of the season, and according to

(02:45:39):
the Wexler Research Team, as prompted by Matt Thomas, they
were able to put somebody in an NBA game wearing
the number fifty eight for the first time in NBA history.
Although Jack McVeigh missed all three of his shots in
his NBA debut.

Speaker 2 (02:45:55):
Well, he only played two minutes. If he had played three,
definitely would have made his first.

Speaker 3 (02:45:58):
Kim Whitmore set him up with an absolutely perfect value
for him to just catch and drop. Everybody had a
flat tire at the Udell he was in Alpi Shengoon, yes,
the third player to do so. Before you get to
what you want to get to about the center for
the Spurs, Kim Whitmore assigned to the Rio Grand Valley
Vipers the season about to begin. There had been out

(02:46:20):
of the rotation. He only got into the game last
night because status. We'll see how long it lasts or
how many games even plays. The Rockets have these two
games on the road coming up, and then they're back
at home. Probably nothing more than if you're not playing
here and he was out of the rotation, then we
want you to play.

Speaker 2 (02:46:38):
But this is a guy who was in the rotation
last year significantly, and it wasn't necessarily just because oh
somebody's injured.

Speaker 3 (02:46:45):
There's one new player in the rotation and it's in
his spot. Yeah, well, I take that back there two
read Shepherd and the healthy Tar Easton.

Speaker 2 (02:46:54):
Yeah, and that I mean, I'm not going to argue
for Kim whitmore over Tari Easton.

Speaker 3 (02:47:00):
That's just because I'm a bike fan. I don't think
he's playing badly because of this stat. But he can't
make a three.

Speaker 2 (02:47:08):
And he did all the time last year. I don't
know what happened. He didn't bulk up.

Speaker 3 (02:47:13):
No, it just has been. It's at the beginning of
the season that he's in a bad spell. If it
were in the middle of the season, after he started
shooting the year at forty percent, we might not notice
it much by the way. Thing else this is the
sole season.

Speaker 2 (02:47:25):
I know we overrate this a lot, but all five
starters and three off the bench with plus double digit ratings,
they just the Spurs suck.

Speaker 3 (02:47:37):
Rockets are after their first eight games as everybody else
heads into their games tonight, they're in the top eight
in offensive rating, defensive rating, and obviously net rating.

Speaker 2 (02:47:46):
Okay, let's talk about the fact that the seven foot
four one and fifty pounder for the San Antonio Spurs
has been relegated to a three point non marksman.

Speaker 3 (02:47:57):
By choice, not by the Rockets doing. That's his choice
and it's a bad one.

Speaker 2 (02:48:01):
Well, if he comes inside, he's not gonna do any better.
He's gonna get pushed around and alprin Chingoon and in
this case Jalen Green are going to dance around him,
do whatever they want.

Speaker 3 (02:48:13):
He got. He got Jalen once and Jaalen got him once.

Speaker 2 (02:48:15):
I loved that because that was the only one that
made the ESPN highlight reel.

Speaker 3 (02:48:19):
On the side I went up for a dunk and
got it blocked, and the one he got on Wemby
was a layup. That's basically the reason to me.

Speaker 2 (02:48:26):
After he did like a figure eight and dribbles around him,
and Wemby was like, ohh where did he go?

Speaker 6 (02:48:32):
Think?

Speaker 2 (02:48:33):
It was like Chris Simms analysis of c. J. Stroud
once the pocket starts to collapse. It was the same
exact thing.

Speaker 3 (02:48:39):
So Wemby in last night's game, I played twenty five
minutes too, which is very typical twenty five to twenty eight.
He was not called for a foul, so it wasn't
foul trouble. No, that's the rotations that they use for
him so far this season. He when he got into
the paint, took five shots, made them all everywhere else

(02:48:59):
he made a shot one for nine if he wasn't
in the paint, and it's his choice to take five
or four twenty eight to thirty foot three pointers. He
took a San Antonio what four and nobody's pushing you
out there.

Speaker 2 (02:49:14):
I don't get that. And he only got six rebounds,
which you know three blocks.

Speaker 3 (02:49:18):
As a good game. The Rockets, for most of his
short career, own him. They they've played him incredibly well.
And it's in different ways too.

Speaker 2 (02:49:26):
It's not just And the only reason I'm bringing this
up is because, well, there's several reasons. One of which
is the fact that he has San Antonio on his gear.
The other is the fact that he pumped his fist
when he didn't get drafted by this team. But other
than that, it's not personal. No, I you know, it's
good natured ribbing. But Matt and to a lesser extent, Ross,
it's just, oh, if you're an idiot, he's gonna be

(02:49:47):
a Hall of Famer for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:49:48):
Fire.

Speaker 2 (02:49:48):
Now I'm paraphrasing, but uh, I'm just like it was
funny because the other night, I think it was probably
Ross that sent a text and he's like, Herry, what
did you think about is you know, fifty three point
thirty five rebound performance against not the Ruckets. I was like,
I don't know, what did you think about his six
point eight rebound performance against a team that matters like

(02:50:08):
the Spurs, Because I think that big statistical night he
had was against whatever stiff Utah is rolling out there
these days at center and they suck.

Speaker 3 (02:50:15):
They're like the worst team in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (02:50:17):
But yeah, I'm not a fan of Victor winmbin Yama
as far as oh, he's gonna be the next big thing.

Speaker 3 (02:50:24):
Retard to his second season has been poor, he's pretty
much down across the board. He's still blocking a ton
of shots. The only place is not down across the board,
and they're trying to get some veterans around him to
help win games. He's a bum. We'll talk more about that,
I'm sure on February twenty six or fifth, when the
Rockets and Spurs get together again. Instead, we will siddle

(02:50:46):
our way out of here. We'll be back tomorrow at
two o'clock, Big Friday program, All the

Speaker 1 (02:50:50):
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