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June 13, 2025 • 162 mins
As Friday comes, Wex and AC hit you with a preview of the Astros' series against the Twins, trade rumors on Kevin Durant, Father's Day appreciation and AC's plan to meet Lars Ulrich on Saturday night!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adam, raised.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
By Earl.

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Nolan Hockey, molted by the magnificent roller coaster ride.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
That is Houston sports.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Chill lge down for the only homegrown afternoon team.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Is Talking your Teams.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
A straight up two o'clock here on a Friday edition
of The A Team. It's Sports Talk seven ninety. It
is the A Team. Wex over there, ac right here,
and we've got Cold Thompson as per usual as well,

(00:59):
taking up until six o'clock, and then the Astros and
the Twins will get together Carlos Correa and company in
town for a three game weekend set that will include
afternoon games on Sunday and Saturday. You know, I know
that wex because Blummer is very excitedly published the schedule.

(01:21):
You don't have to do that thirty seconds in. You
can like pace yourself. So Blummer is excited about going
to the Metallica show because he's able to.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah, I mean, because so you're making me do it
right early. Yeah, he's able to because you can't take
days off if you work on the broadcast team.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Cole are you hearing this. I love just early days
off they make him. I'm not joking. I know that,
but I don't know that he always gets to choose.
That's true. Well, when the when these tickets went on
sale for this show, which will be tomorrow night at
NRG Stadium, that was in September of last year, and

(02:01):
all he knew I think at that point was the
actual day he was going. No, he didn't. He actually
didn't think he was going because there was a game
that night, or there was a game scheduled obviously that day,
but he didn't know it was going to be a
three o'clock start, So he will be able to go
because of that. So we're all very excited. Why don't
you go? Why don't you go? We're all we are
all very excited to go. All right, you should go.

(02:24):
You should go. I'll buy tickets with you. You can say
with me for four hours. I love it. I love
the idea. We should all be there and just the
synergy will be spectacular. All right, So Astros get these
series win over the Chicago White Sox. That should not
have ever really been a question, but it got to
be a whole lot more interesting, especially late than it
should have. But I guess all's well, that's ends. I

(02:46):
was looking at Josh Hater's face after the final out
last night and it was just like his expression to
me screamed, nobody's gonna remember that this was more difficult
than it needed to be, because at the end of
the day, Astros got the win. And that's how I
guess we should all look at it. That wasn't fun.
That wasn't fun. Late when the White Sox just would

(03:07):
not go away and came this close to tying the game,
especially against Hater.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
That's why two run leads are helpful for your closer.
They had two big hits. Both of them were not homers,
no problem. First one was a seemingly more cheap than
I think it would have been a homer at nine parks,
seemed like it would have been a homer at two parks,
but Josh Hater's reaction to that was that's not a
pitch that should be hit over the fence for a
home run, But nonetheless it was. The other one obviously

(03:35):
went off the top of the wall, no other damage,
no problem. Probably could have put more runs on the
board at other points during the game to make it
even easier on him. The other thing that comes out
of the game, clearly is what came out of the game.
That's Esak Peretis who had to come out of the game.
That's not good. He leads the Astros in a lot
of different ways. He's played excellent defense at third base

(03:58):
and hit his fifteenth home run early in the game.
Part of the reason why Josh Hater is eighteen for
eighteen in save appearances and why the Astros are eight
games over five hundred, two games better, only two games
better than the team that comes to town. Very very
different situation from Minnesota than when these two teams met
for the first time. The Minnesota Twins got off to
a horrific start, one that had people wondering if they

(04:20):
were going to be like this all season and ultimately
with the team that had that much talent, would they
be on the wrong side of the seller's list. Well,
far from it. They're in the thick of the wild
card race. Unless Detroit gets a whole lot worse. There's
three teams in their division that will be in the
wildcard race. The Minnesota Twins were seven and fifteen after
they were swept by the equally awful at the beginning

(04:43):
of the season Atlanta Braves. That got the Braves going,
and somehow even though they were swept, that got the
Minnesota Twins going. They were still thirteen and twenty on
May second. It's only been a little over a month
since May second, from thirteen and twenty to visiting Houston
after going twenty three and twelve over their last thirty
five games. That's why they come to town at a

(05:04):
team that's four games over. They did not win their
most recent series or their series before that, so they
have cooled a little bit, losing to both Texas and Toronto.
Toronto is right there at the Astros at thirty eight
and thirty. So there're a lot of good a lot
of teams starting to I guess you could say, like
Houston come together a little bit, maybe what they hope
they could be this season. And if Houston is what

(05:26):
we think they are as they have come together here,
then more of the same should be expected. I mean
they should consider this like every other series they play.
I mean, there's only a couple teams with better records
than you, then why wouldn't you go into every series
the way you've been playing no matter that this is
a series where Colton Gordon gets the ball today and
Brandon Walter gets the ball on Sunday. Ashlew's have been

(05:46):
in pretty much every single one of the games started
by all of those non expected starters, and Ryan Gusto
was the last one to have won, and he was
great and they were in great position to win again
after he pitched, which they did so hopefully more of
the same beginning tonight with the lefty Colton Gordon.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah no, I'm just all's well, that ends well. Type
of situation for a team that not just this year,
has given the Astros some problems, but onto this series
with the twins like you mentioned, and just putting that
distance between them and whoever's behind them. Happens to be
Seattle right now. That could change, especially with the fact

(06:22):
that they and the Angels have the same record, and
then Texas is looming right behind those two.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
But this way, I would put it this way, unless
those teams beat Houston and Seattle already only has six
games remaining with Houston the others have more, They're not
gonna catch them.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Do you think it's done here on June thirteenth?

Speaker 4 (06:44):
I mean, I say they're not going to catch them.
Less about the math and four and a half game
lead is nothing.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
I agree. More about the baseball.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
I mean, the Astros are they they have two starters
and Lance, that's what they're running with. This is we're
about six weeks into this and they just keep increasing
the distance. They have an okay offense without their best
hitter for about five weeks, and they keep increasing the distance. Now,
the Parretta situation could make it a little bit different.

(07:12):
But the longer we are away from jord On, the
closer we are, we could could stop looking at how
much time he's missed and start looking at how little
time there is in the future for him to miss.
He's missed more than half of the time he's gonna miss,
probably more than two thirds at the time he's gonna miss.
I don't know what it's gonna turn out to be,
and I don't know what he's going to be when
he comes back, but I know he's not gonna be
as bad as he was. I can pretty much I

(07:32):
feel confident guaranteeing that. And of all the players we
keep talking about, have they turned the corner? Have they
done this? I mean, if you've been watching the way
the ball has been flying off of Yaner Diaz's bat,
whether they've resulted in out's, double plays or singles. He's
been a lot better for probably two thirds of the season.
We're probably pushing thirty five forty games now where he's

(07:52):
gonna been the yin or did as of old. He's
actually hitting you know, two ninety over his last forty
one games. Uh seven ninety four ops. That's the Yiner.
That's good Yiner. That's the Yiner that they acquired from
the Indye Guardians a couple of years ago. And if
that's who he remains for the final two to three

(08:13):
months of the season, that's just a matter of piecing
in the others around him. This is one of the
very very slow starters. He was bad, very bad for
the first twenty thirty games of this season. Well, he's
been a whole lot more like the guy we have
been used to and the Astros have been used to
since then offensively well.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
And I keep my tendency is to keep saying, well,
it's a part of this. What you're saying is because
the division is just so blah. But it's not. I
keep having to tell myself. It's not just the divisions
the American League.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Well, and it's not just the division, because that's not
why they are where they are. They're not cleaning up
on their division, right. They're beating everybody, right, They're beating
everybody that they play. They're they're winning series fairly regularly.
They obviously have created a huge gap at home. They're
now eleven games over five hundred when they play at
Tyke and Bark obviously Tiken Park. These next three games

(09:00):
will give them good and bad news. Good news is
they get to play at home and they crush there.
The bad news is when they finish up Sunday against
the Twins and head out of town for the back half,
so to speak. Of this thirteen games in a row,
there will be seven road games in a row after this.
The Sunday game is home game number forty, almost at

(09:20):
the halfway point of their home schedule.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Wow, Okay, I didn't see that coming either.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Well, they'll have played forty home games and thirty one
road games when this next road trip begins, but when
it ends, it'll be forty and thirty eight. Everything will
basically big back to even. They just have had a
little slant towards the home slate, But their record inside
the division, where yeah, they stink and they can't catch
them and all that, that's not really where they're doing anything.

(09:48):
I mean, they're good, and they have the best record
of anybody in the division. They're ten and six. It's
nothing overwhelming. It just happens to be better than everybody else.
And to that end, if we think the division stinks, shit,
probably does. The Mariners are almost halfway done with their
entire division schedule. They're twenty five and ten, or excuse me,
fifteen and ten. Having played twenty five games in the division,

(10:11):
you only play fifty two of them. They only have
twenty seven games left against the so called riff raff
of the Athletics, Rangers, Angels, and Astros.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Well, and that's what I was more getting at. It's
not necessarily that the Astros are beating up on the
other teams in the division. That's not very good, as
much as it's just that the other teams aren't very good, period,
end of story. So as long as the Astros keep
doing what they're doing, regardless of who they're playing, you
would hope that that kind of plays into things.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
And it has.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
I mean, with the way the Mariners have just it's
not just been like a tailspin, it's like a nosedive.
I mean, they were I don't even I don't know
what the latest mark is, and they are four to
thirteen in their last seven. Yeah, they didn't play last
night and it was the best news of the last
two weeks for them.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
The Wexler researcher saying, was unnecessarily busy with this since
you brought it up yesterday. They're monthly records from twenty
twenty one to twenty twenty five, June thirteenth, today's date.
Nothing truly stood out about great starts versus some sort
of horrible finish. What really stood out is they have

(11:16):
had some roller coaster months almost all of these seasons,
and even the season where they played their best baseball
down the stretch, they had created such a gap, bad
gap between themselves and the Astros they couldn't catch up.
They're two to eight in this June. In twenty twenty
three they went nine and fifteen, But in twenty twenty
three they turned around and went twenty one and six.
In August they went thirty eight and fifteen. In July

(11:38):
and August. They've just been streaky in both directions, and
this year doesn't really look any different. They got off
to a great start and now they're headed in the
other direction and we're not even halfway through the season.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Very inconsistent baseball team year in and year out for
a team that does have the talent that it does
from a pitching standpoint.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
All that being said, extremely consistent at the end of
the day, eighty five, eighty eight, ninety ninety those are
their four win totals to the last four years.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, they're inconsistent in how they get to their consistency. Amazing.
It's crazy, all right, But that's very baseball, by the way,
because that kind of stuff can happen in baseball more
than any other sport, it seems. All right. There is
a lot of Astro's conversation to have, including our weekly
visit with Chandler Rome. We will obviously talk a lot
of NBA just because there's more whispers. The whole KD

(12:28):
saga is interesting. What were you about to say, Well,
I mean people report it. They're not whispers. There's more reports.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
They're concrete delivery of reports, whether the information is right
or wrong. That's for us to discuss here over the
next three hours and thirty seven minutes. But there are
forty seven minutes. There are real reports, both from people
that cover the Sun's period and those that cover them nationally.
This is what they believe is happening. They're reporting it.
We'll hear from them about that and give our take.

(12:56):
Kevin Durant, a Houston Rocket, you post that you talk
about it, it is met with some pretty serious emotions
one way or the other. We welcome yours at seven
one three two one two five seven ninety early going
of today's eighteen.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
It's the eight team Sports Talk seven ninety Friday edition
of the program. Wex ac Cole Thompson with you, all right.
I saw at least one report it was more about
like who would be included in a deal between the
Rockets and the Suns if Katie was coming to Houston.

(13:49):
And first and foremost, before we go any further, I
feel like, even though more teams seemingly are involved, whether
they actually are or not, you know how interested they are,
all of that subjective or probably still to be determined.
But don't you feel like just if you're the Rockets,
because you have the because you have their picks, that

(14:12):
the price for KD should somehow, some way be falling
in a deal for you, while at the same time,
because these other teams are supposedly interested or involved, it's
probably driving the price up because there's some sort of
pseudo bidding war.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, I don't think there's a bidding war just yet,
even though I do think this is probably coming to
a head a little bit more quickly than some people anticipate.
To that end, want to let you hear what Sean
Sharani has said earlier today about this in advance of
tonight's Game four. But to your question, there's something that
the Rockets have that gives them leverage. The idea that
a bunch of teams are still making calls and putting

(14:46):
their own package just together gives Rich Climb and Kevin
Durant and the Suns also some leverage. So I think
there's a little bit of a balance in between those
two things. I do think it is going to happen,
and because the longer things like this, where it's so
obvious it's happening. We already said the other day there's
a zero point zero percent chance he's playing any more

(15:08):
basketball for the Phoenix Suns. I think everybody with this,
you know, about a month's time since we've gotten away
from the draft lottery.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Everybody knows where they fall.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
So people have an idea of what their futures hold
and thus their future assets, what they might mean to them,
and the idea that they can't get. You can't control
anything unless they're your picks. So that's one thing that's
never going to change is the Rockets give them back
their other picks, because remember the twenty five pick is
is now. It doesn't matter if it's Phoenixes or not.
It's the tenth pick, it's not well they can control it.

(15:37):
There's no more control, and we already know where that
one's going to be. The future picks, they don't know
where those might end up. And because they are in
Phoenixes at Phoenix's discretion, if say Devin Booker misses fifty
games while he's healthy, then they're probably impacting where those
picks might fall. If they continue to employ and play
Bradley Beal, that probably impacts where those picks will be.

(16:00):
But Sham's earlier today kind of describing the situation, since
he had reported not too long ago he thought this
might happen in the next week to ten days. He
already wanted to update everybody on that.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
I think there's some motivation with some teams. Potentially even
sooner than seven days. You know, maybe in the next few
days we get some Kevin Durant trade action. There is
some serious traction on conversations on trade scenarios with the Suns.
They've had about six to eight teams reach out. There's
been interest, there's been some offers, there's been some negotiations,
but really in the last twenty four to forty eight hours,

(16:32):
I'm told the focus of the Sun's conversation has been
on a few of the teams, the Houston Rockets, the
Miami Heat, and the Minnesota Timberwolves. I'm told those are
the three teams right now where a lot of the
focus for Durant lies.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
So that's interesting because he went from increasing the number
that we had kind of heard, which was five to
six to eight, but then he kind of narrows it down.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
The reality is it's twenty six. Other teams aren't just
saying well, we're not in it. Right of those twenty
six teams, six to eight of them are still making
the calls, all still interested in, you know, circling back
with them, still interested in having internal conversations to see
how far they might be willing to go. Whereas three
teams surprising three and that the heat is in that

(17:17):
group obviously the Rockets, not the Spurs.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
I think that that. Again, I have some respect for Shams.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
It doesn't seem like too many others do right now,
especially the people in Phoenix who every time anybody outside
of Phoenix has reported anything regarding Kevin Durant, they've said,
that's not true, that's not true, that's not true, that's
not true, and it's going to turn out to be true,
and everyone will say that they well, at the time,
it was well, yeah, no kidding, you're right. But I
do think that's interesting that a team like that, I mean,

(17:48):
I admire pat Riley to a certain extent, his belief
that they're doing things right and they can continue to
push forward. He's clearly not a tanking president Bsketball operations
directive person. But they have no chance. No, they have
no chance with the roster they have. They had no
chance with the roster with Jimmy Butler on it. They

(18:09):
have no chance with Kevin Durant on it, no chance
at all, none whatsoever, zero, not a zip zilch.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
I know that. Can they want to?

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Didn't you try Jimmy Butler because he was an older
player not capable of carrying you to a title? Son,
you want an older player who's similarly not likely to
carry a very under talented team to a title.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, just because you brought them up. Kevin Durant is
a better player than Jimmy Butler right now, right, but
it's not relevant.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
I mean, Kevin Butler would have to be the greatest
player on earth and be able to be cloned. That's
not even the most There's not a player in the
NBA that could take Miami to the Eastern Conference championship.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yiannis not one. You don't think Janis couldn't do it
with a team that's already better than them? Uh when healthy?

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yes, exactly three straight years better than the Heat didn't
do it? Not going to do it is he's three
years older with a worst team with no Butler.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Well one of those three years he didn't have Damian Lillard.
You don't disagree, right, fine, Okay, but that's not even Honestly,
in my opinion, you might disagree, that's not even the
most surprising name on that list. The Timberwolves.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
I don't think it's surprising at all. We have talked
about them, and it's just a matter of what's the best.
They've now more than any other good team, They've gotten
a really good look at two different versions of an
Anthony Edwards led team this early in his career.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
That's rare.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Last year's team, the one that Julius Randall was on,
and two years AGO's team, the one that Karl Anthony
Towns was on. Now, there weren't a lot of differences
between them beyond that, other than Devincenzo's involvement this past year,
which I do think is significant. But they've reached the
same point, and they've also been ousted in a very
similar manner when they did get to the conference final,
and I think theyre's still not a hundred They were

(19:54):
clearly not one hundred percent sold on the Cat Edwards pairing.
I think it's fair to say as they invest gate
this opportunity, which likely costs them Julius Randall, Yeah, it's
starting that they're not completely sold on this the reason
I definitely think I would be interested because they're the
only team that can do what none of the others can.
And we brought it up again earlier this week. It's

(20:16):
Kevin Durant's offense to lead if he lands in every
other place.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Except there except there. But the reason I say it's
a surprise is aren't they just a more advanced version
of the Rockets in that you don't want to break
up what you have because it's gotten you this far.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
But they just broke it up, I know, And I
got them right back to where they were.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I Know's that's the most obvious counterpoint to that. When
you have the guy Anthony Edwards, you think, well, we
can put anybody out there, I bet you will be
in an okay spot. And it's probably true. I mean,
Dallas felt like they were an okay spot all these years.
They realized there's something missing, and so they went after defense.
They put together a Western Conference champion, and I think
Minnesota's looking at who they've put around him, and obviously

(21:00):
they went all in on I can't believe all the
moves they've made. The biggest costliest deal they made in
terms of assets was to add Rudy Gobert when they
traded all those first round picks for him. But they
they had they weren't looking to add the guy or
the huge missing piece. I mean the Rockets that that

(21:20):
is what they're doing, even if he's not so far
advanced past the rest of their talent. It's definitely what
san Antonio is doing. It's just it's it's different if
you're Minnesota. I mean Anthony.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Edwards's playing off ball from KD and vice versa. It's
just very different from you know, KD playing off ball
from Jalen or Jabbari or Tari or Fred or any
number of players that hopefully would still remain here. And yeah,
I've seen some of the some of the if if
this happens, that's the Phoenix report end of it, any deal,
because they're definitely all done to this point. Any deal

(21:53):
with the Rockets and Kevin Durant would include Jalen Green
and Jabari Smith Junior.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Is that what I'm hearing? One is that that's what
and maybe unlikely outlet, But they didn't say where Jalen
Green would be finishing at the end of this deal,
because no way Phoenix wants to pair Jalen Green and
Devin Booker in their back court. Yep, right, Well, I
Booker could play one and they could play with both

(22:20):
of them. They're both super talented. Yeh, But I don't
think that's the best way to build a champion around
Devin Booker. I have long thought that if it was
a Durant deal with the Rockets landing him, a third
team has to be involved because a the primary chips

(22:40):
that the Rockets would be moving out that Phoenix is
most interested in are their picks. Not necessarily players, but
because of the exorbitant salary that Kevin Durant currently and
in the future would command get about fifty.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Four million on the remaining year of his deal and
more than that after to what you have, there's we
don't know how much he's gonna make in the future
or who's going to pay him.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
So it's a trial run like Stefan Diggs. How about
a trial run like Kawhi Leonard. Well, it better NOTWHI Leonard?
Trial run in Toronto? Oh, we just won the NBA
Championship goodbye. Yeah, And I'm sure if you asked Toronto fans,
was it worth it? Yes? Yes, because we're in Toronto,
where it's never gonna happen again. Difference is in Houston,
that is, that's not how you think about things.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
And so you're you're already sad about the twenty six
twenty seven Rockets playing without Jabbari, Kevin and Jalen.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Did they win the title? Maybe if I'm not If
they won the title, I'm not sad. We'll get to into.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Get you guys into that conversation quite a bit as
we move forward to all these things come from that
social media platform.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
We love all of them. Best of X is next.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Did you all see this putting out between five and posts, four.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Hundred people were arrested for things that they said on
social media.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
History repeats itself type an you'll succeed, never doubt that
you're the one to Plus, we're going one building.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
You're the best X. Nothing's gonna have a top.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
You know you're the best of X posting every single day.
You're the best of X breaking the entire internet.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
All Right, we got a few options here, but I
think this will be the one that you guys want
to hear about, if not the most among the most.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Best of X.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Best of what's going on on social media, and no
better place for social media than sports. There's a couple
of ways where sports and uh, you know, stocking degenerates
basement dwellers kind of all meld together. We got really,
really familiar with this over the last handful of years

(25:02):
at the respective NBA and NFL drafts. NBA draft, a
player and his family at their table, A player and
his family in the stands.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Whoa who's that? Who's that at their table? Oh my gosh,
that at camp? Be his mom? She looks too young?
Is oh well, is that his girlfriend?

Speaker 8 (25:23):
No?

Speaker 3 (25:23):
No, I'm sorry, that's his sister. I'm sorry, my bad.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
NFL, same thing, you remember, Mayonnaise man will Levis helped
make his then minor presence on that go Gia Duddy
became a much bigger presence on social media after she
and her curls were featured sitting next to him, and
nobody got more camera time than he and she did
because the entire first round came and went without his

(25:48):
name being called, so they had the opportunity to keep
going back to him over and over and over again.
Now where else do we see some of these things again?
I'm really talking to you guys out there the the fingerboard,
fingers on the keyboard, Warriors, so and just hey man,
just out there doing some digging, seeing what's out there. Players,
mostly in Major League Baseball, because you got a three

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hour game, a two hour and thirty minute game.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
He's his major league debut.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Did you have a chance to get your family to
the game or your parents here, your girlfriend, your you know,
friends and teammates and whatever.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
And nearly every time.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
They do make it to the game, and you do
have an opportunity to catch up with them, at some
point during the broadcast, you'll have a hopefully a sideline
reporter in this case, field side reporter make their way
up there, or somebody in the media, or they'll know
where they are and they'll be on camera, or they'll
be doing their own social media, and you'll ask those
vary same questions. Sister, girlfriend, friend, whatever, mom. If it's

(26:47):
your sister, then I already know your last name and
the stalking can begin. If it's not, then I'll just
see whatever else is going on out there. It sounds
very Matt Thomas Creey, So this week, how does that apply?
It's from Major League Baseball, a lot of teams have
already started this for different reasons. Cole and I were
talking earlier about the Angels bringing up one of their

(27:08):
prize prospects, Christian more other teams maybe do more to injuries.
I mean, the Astros have brought up a billion prospects
this year. And we've seen Jacob Melton's family in the
stands and his wife, and we've seen a host of others.
Cam Smith obviously was a huge, huge deal when he
made the team. His mom, stepdad's girlfriend were all there.
It's fantastic stuff. It's great theater. But just the other day,

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a team that has had a rash of injuries and
already began the process right out of spring training. Christian
Campbell was a Red Sox right out of the gate.
You saw a couple of other prospects consideration for them
to also be added to the team, and finally there
their number one prospect after Barcelo Mayor made his way
to the team, one of their top prospects, the top

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prospect with one of the soon to be greatest names
in sports, Roman and remember name, it's very important to
today's conversation. Roman Anthony made his debut for the Boston
Red Sox and it couldn't have couldn't have been any
better than to see his whole family there, and everyone

(28:13):
was asking all the questions. I've just spent five and
a half minutes laying out, Well, who's that, who's that
sitting with that? That's his mom, and that's his dad.
I think that guy's brother. And who's in that red jacket?
That Red Sox fan there? Wow, I wonder who that is?
And it didn't take long for people to figure out
who it was. In fact, is Roman Anthony's sister Leah.

(28:35):
And the good folks that do what we do in
the Boston area, they have a radio program.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
They hooked up with Len.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
They put her on the radio earlier today and this
is this is a wholesome, ridiculous question and answer for you. Initially,
we'll get to what everyone wanted to know at the end.
But they asked her, and I want you to listen
closely to her answer. They asked her if Roman is

(29:02):
her older brother, and she said, you know, so.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Roman is my younger brother, and then Tony Anthony Anthony
is my older brother.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Tony Anthony Anthony is my older brother.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Her older brother's name is Anthony. Their last name is Anthony.
His name Anthony Anthony.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Play it one more time, Tony Anthony Anthony is my
older brother.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
She just rattled it off like we weren't gonna notice, huh,
because they probably one second after he emerged, realized let's
call him Tony.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
But even still, his name's Anthony. So do you Anthony Anthony?
And was there an Tony my bad? Tony Anthony older
brother to Leah and Roman Anthony Anthony though that's his name, name.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
By his name.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
So after they talked about things and asked her how
much her instrum Graham had blown up, and she mentioned
I had a couple thousand followers and as of this morning,
it was up to fourteen thousand. As of are stalking
her now, it's up to over twenty two thousand. The
most important question for the people that think this is
a ridiculous, awful what's her name again?

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Conversation to have was finally asked later in the interview,
are you single?

Speaker 5 (30:25):
Yes? I am?

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Okay, okay, I mean, come right out and say it.
Don't beat around the bush.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Asked her about are you surprised at how much this
has blown up? Was your brother surprised at how much
this blown up, and she said, he's aware of it.
But he's in the majors now. He just made his
major league debut. He's a Red Sox. He's playing for
the Boston Red Sox. He's a little bit more focused
on that than the fact that his sister, who attended

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the game, is blowing up on social media because more
people want to follow her on Instagram. He's more concerned
with the baseball currently. But that's the reason for the
line of questioning about as a year older brother, because
they then got into oh, so I guess Anthony and
both of them. Roman's a big guy. They can take
care of things for you, and yes, I won't deliver
it for you here. But questions about DM sliding were
also asked. A lot of people have been sliding in there,

(31:18):
so they're asking you about The answers weren't interesting enough.
She acknowledged it, yes, but she didn't give them any examples.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
What's her handle again, it's not hard to figure out
Anthony Anthony, Anthony, Anthony Anthy Anthy. I don't know if
his handle is at Anthony Anthony, but I suppose, I
suppose it could be if my parents had named me
Tony Anthony. That was my I would absolutely go Anthony,
Anthony or Anthony two times. I mean, my dad's name
is Thomas Thompson. See, but that's at least a slight distin.

(31:50):
It's just slight distinct. But still he goes by Tommy,
Tommy Thompson.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
That's the best option, because Thomas Thompson or Tom Thompson
are worse.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Tommy is better. You can't call him tom I kid
you not. He will not answer if you call him
Tom Thompson. He will not answer. That sounds like a
broadcasting name, an anchor from the seventies. Most people call
him Tommy T. Because they know what the last name is.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
They definitely should be called If they're all going so
far as to call him Tommy T. Like AC said,
they should absolutely call him Tommy two times.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Tommy two times. Time you have me, get the paper,
get the paper, good stuff.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
You never know what what will make your presence on
social media explode. Attending your brother's first Major League baseball game.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Sometimes we'll do it. Coming up, we will wish farewell
to a long tenured member of the Astros organization.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
That's next, the ag on Sports Talk seven ninety. Are
you aware who has the first pick in this week's

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eighteen draft?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Not you, and it's not me, as you can tell
going down losers. See, you said that last week, and
I kicked your ass. We didn't do it last week.
That's what I meant. Yeah, you didn't do it last week.
You could kick anybody's ass. You said that the week before,
and I kicked your ass. You barely would.

Speaker 8 (33:26):
You wouldn't belive you talking about you will look nine
percent and you had coffee as as your baseline.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Congratulations because I'm awesome.

Speaker 8 (33:34):
Yeah, you will, said bake it, like, why not just
go ahead and take every single good thing that ever
exists in the world in breakfast foods?

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Well, it will be metallic inspired four when we get
to our Friday eighteen drafts.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
They are playing a show here in Houston tomorrow. For
those that were unaware, I think the way you said
it like they're playing a little side club. Yeah, give
us antro.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
They will have There were instruments out be banging on
them and strumming them. Their voices will be heard.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Me and seventy six thousand of my closest friends should
be a good time. Why don't you go just buy it? Dude,
you don't even you know what you guys don't even
know about WEX. I don't even think he looks at
his bank account. I really don't. So I think I
know you've got the money to just buy buy a ticket,
bye by yourself.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
I don't want to give people too much of my
personal business, but I in fact can afford tickets to
go see a show.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Of course you can. That's why I don't know why
you're not going, myself very lucky? What you've consider yourself
the luckiest man alive or what? Lou Garritt I'm not.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
I'm never gonna say that. Just go to the show
tomorrow and don't just go go on the floor. What
an offer you're making. I know I'm offering you to
am I going to get kicked out after I get
onto the floor.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I'm not telling you to jump the rail and go
illegally where you don't have a ticket, telling you to
buy a floor seat you can find them. I'm sure
I can.

Speaker 8 (34:54):
So the lowest priced ticket right now. It's four hundred
and thirteen dollars on ticket mat.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
That's worth it.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
You're gonna sit on the floor for Metallica. They're gonna
play a solid two hours and you're gonna have your
face melted off. Definitely be the best Metallica concert I've
ever been to see you. You've never seen him, right,
you've never been. I've never been. Why don't you go?
I don't know. You know the last time they played
NRG Stadium it was Reliant Stadium. Still got it, so

(35:23):
you should go.

Speaker 8 (35:24):
Okay, I found I found a cheaper ticket. Two tickets
in section six thirty three. You and me, wex each
pay two hundred and ninety five dollars, so.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
You can be on the floor for four hundred and
you can sit all the way at the top for
three hundred. Your shopping is getting worse.

Speaker 8 (35:41):
Cole, Hey, I didn't One is with feast, one is
without feast. We don't know what the price is gonna
be with the feast on all in figure. No, it's
not an all in figure.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Why would it be. Well, some of these sites started
doing that because they would have tickets for sale, you
would click on them, you'd put them in your cart
or whatever, and then you'd go to check out and
be like two hundred dollars more per ticket and You're like,
what's going on here? Fees? What's the fees thing?

Speaker 8 (36:04):
That's what gets show because they because like I see
tickets all the time, it's like seventeen bucks.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Oh it's actually fifty four. What you're doing is paying
the processing, the shipping fee and the tax fee that
comes with it.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
All right, well, it pretty much settles it. It's either
me and Cole at Metallica Saturday or what the Wu
Tang Clan show Toyota Center.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
One of the two. You're not going to Wu Tang
Well run the Jewels will also be there. I'll pay
the ship, I will pay for Wax's ticket.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
And go to Now.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
I want you to go now. I want to see you.
Please do social flog it. Apparently I was told Wu
Tang Clan eight nothing to bleep with. I will show.
I will social my Saturday night activities. If you really
want me to see, they're gonna be very I will.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
Like.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
This just means you're not going to go to either show,
and you're gonna have some sort of video of you
eating tacos or something. If I have to go to that.

Speaker 8 (36:53):
I guess they go to SEC media days and ask
every coach. It just means more, you have to go
to Wu Tang clan.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
One of them will probably be wearing it T shirt
that says that they'll be fine with the question.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
I didn't even tell you the conversation I had with
Teresays as we were dressing our tacos on Wednesday before dinner. Yeah,
I said, do you know what Wex said to me today?
She said, no, what exactly, very very enthusiast, and I go,
I go. He actually said to me on air, I
already did that this week on the aforementioned day, because

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you had them on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Went back to the house, ground up some you know
her made the rest of the meal, and there's taco Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
She goes, come on Wex. That's what she said.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
She probably says that every day if you bring anything
that I said, come on Wex. She was disappointed, I know.
She was like, you can have a constant disappointment. Tell
her what you're doing is like, no constant disappointment from
two to six.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
The constant disappointment from her is towards me. Trust me.
Like I said earlier on with Ross, if we make
it to tomorrow night's show without killing each other, it's
going to be a miracle. The show will be. You'll
you'll make it to the show, The show will be.
You got a lot to look forward to. By the way,
it's around what are we two hours ahead of LA

(38:06):
right now? Or is it one I can never remember? Okay,
isn't it permanently too? So it's the Arizona the Mountain
time zone. Okay, well it's one state. It's not even Nevada.
I think he doesn't even do the thing either. Oh okay, Well,
I was just gonna say, savings. Why was I blanket
on that? It's what is it twelve fifty four in
Los Angeles? So about this time, thirty one years ago,

(38:30):
Juice was in handcuffs. He was a suspect. Now, why
did he become a suspect? Well, because you're always the
suspect when you're the spouse or the x.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Right, So you're saying he was a suspect. Now, he
was a suspect from the jump, wasn't he for that
very reason?

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yes? And no? Did he get out of that clause
of being a suspect because he was famous? Well, he
was in Chicago supposedly according to him, when the murders happened,
were in Chicago. They are on the way. I still
want to know what happened to that Louis Vaton bag
that Kim Kardashian's dad took. See what I did there?
I did your gimmick. That's a good one, all right.

(39:09):
When we come back, I promise we are going to
actually discuss the fact that, well, he was a nine
years It was a long Yeah, he was a long
tenured member of the Astros organization, and perhaps I don't know,
like the most underwhelming given where he was taken, everything
that was the potential therein.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
It was not your typically nine year If you're a
nine year member of any organization, it's almost impossible for
it to be like this one.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
And we'll get into that obviously.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
On the other side, there's a little bit more clearly
three hours worth of meat on the what's going to
happen in the NBA Off of the court, We got
a couple more games of the NBA Finals which actually
are on tap for later tonight. Pacers have a chance
to take a three games to one lead. There are
conspiracy theorists out there all ready that pretend to already
know the outcome of tonight's game because of things that

(40:05):
I hate discussing, but inevitably we will have to. We'll
do that during the three o'clock hour as well, And
it's again from a rocket standpoint, it's more about what's
going to change in the NBA between the teams that
are not currently playing.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Where is Giannis going to be playing? Where is Kevin
Durant going to be playing?

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Is Devin Booker truly the man who both hired his
new head coach and a man who's going to play
for his new head coach. Another member of Kevin Durant's
Oklahoma City Thunder is available by June thirtieth, and we'll
see what kind of interest there is in him. If
you're not unaware who that is, probably won't take you
very long to figure out that part of it.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
And a couple other things from those that are talking.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
About the NBA and the NBA Finals and the ridiculous
age of NBA analysis we are in right now, Move
away from hate or dislike or love or infatuated with
the people that are doing the games and just the
things that are coming out of people following the NBA's mouth.
Get stop, please, we like it, don't we because you're
telling us we hate it. All of that comes in

(41:04):
the three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Hour, the eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named at Him Talking Your Teen.
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the eighteen.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Eighty straight up three o'clock. It's Houston, Texas, it is
the A team. It's Sports Talk seven ninety it is
now Space City Home Network. Wex and Ac along with
Carl Thompson on a Friday edition of the show, taking
into the weekend where maybe it'll stop raining. This is

(41:45):
some nasty weather that we've been having lately, and then
today it's like it's Bipolari can't decide whether or not
it wants to be completely an irrationally humid and sunny
or spit a little rain at you. But in the meantime,
the Astros will be taking on the Minnesota Twins, coming
off a two out of three win over the Chicago
White Sox in that series. A little bit of late

(42:06):
drama last night involving Josh Hater and company, maybe a
little bit a little closer than a close for comfort,
but the Astro is able to pull that thing off,
and now they've got this weekend set with the with
the Minnesota Twins and hoping to just continue to put
distance between themselves and whoever else is in second and
third and whoever in the in the AOST. So what

(42:28):
a strange season this has been in that division. We've
talked a lot about the NBA. We've talked about the
Rockets and some of the deals that they are being
included in, as far as discussions with the Phoenix Suns,
and they're hardly the only team there in those discussions.
And uh, well, we've talked a little Metallica because they're
in town this weekend. But we were mentioning that one

(42:51):
of the longest tenured members of the Astros organization is
no longer with them anymore. And what was your favorite,
Forest Whitley, is an Astro moment just doesn't seem to
doesn't seem to ring as true as some of the
other departures in the last run of a decade or so.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Yeah, nine years to be with an organization, but you
didn't make your debut until you were in year eight,
and you still ended up barely pitching for this team.
A little bit last year and obviously a little bit
this year. Talking about Forest Whitley, who you know, was
designated for assignment earlier this week when they had to
make the roster move to get Brandon Walter a spot
on the active roster so he could pitch, and he

(43:31):
obviously has remained there. When you dfa guy like that,
it almost almost ensures that he will no longer be
with the franchise. He ends up not actually going through
waivers because the Astros made a deal with the Tampa Rays.
They said we'd like money and cash considerations will come
back to Houston and forced Whitley will go to the Rays.

(43:53):
One of the reasons why he was DFAD is because
he was out of options. That doesn't change even though
he changes teams. So being that he is out of options,
he is a part of their major league roster and
must remain there or else they would then be going
through the same thing the Astros will. They're obviously not
out of it, not by any means. They've played probably
arguably even better than most would have forecast. That division,

(44:15):
although the teams are good, is probably as much of
a I can't believe what we're watching as the Astros
division is with Tampa at thirty six and thirty two
a couple of games better than Boston, a couple games
worse than Toronto, and Toronto's in second place. So the
Rays are absolutely a team that's in it. There's no
question at this point in the season. And I mentioned

(44:36):
it when we were talking about the Astros getting to
their fortieth home game on Sunday when they play the Twins.
You're also close to halfway through the season. Best team
in the American League is the Detroit Tigers. They've played
seventy games. There's only eleven more games on the front
side of their schedule, and at forty five and twenty five,
and the Yankees at forty two to twenty five, and
the Astros at thirty eight and thirty. These are your
division leaders. The Rays and the Jays would both be

(45:00):
wild cards if the season ended today. That's how well
they've played and forced Whitley, I guess they're one of
these super smart teams out there. They really were the
only team that was going to be able to utilize
this to their advantage. If you saw me Dad joking
my way through the X platform earlier, I was nice
enough to point this out to everybody for Forest Whitley's

(45:22):
brief major League career. New Race pitcher Forest Whitley's career
ra versus the Rays, who he will no longer be
pitching against, it's twenty seven twenty seven point zero zero
versus every other team he's ever pitched against in the
entire Major league career. Forced Whitley, it is zero, not
allowed to earn run to anybody else in baseball, and

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the only team he's allowed to earn runs two he
now pitches for, although it also means he will probably
have an opportunity to pitch in their exhibition stadium again,
where he already did. He pitched against the Rays twice
and they clobbered him twice this season. But he does
have good He is currently healthy and as I mentioned

(46:04):
a few people both on the show the day he
was DFAD and on social media, he's going to play
for somebody else. I didn't think he would clear waivers.
There's not any real money attached to it. So had
he reached that point, somebody would have gone out and
claimed him, and in this case, someone's just decided to
go ahead and trade for him. Both of those things
would have had to go without a claim or without
a trade for him to then be a part of

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the Astros' minor league system. Once again, they would have
had the ability to send him to sugar Land and
that's where he would be just wouldn't be on the
forty man roster anymore. But he was going to pitch
for somebody else this year in the majors because of
those scenarios, because they couldn't send him down either. And
the Razors good as anybody if you look beyond Houston,
and we asked about the twenty nine other teams and

(46:47):
how they cultivate pitching and how they do things similarly
to Houston. They seem to find things that other teams don't.
They're definitely penny pinchers, so I think they feel compelled
to find things that other teams don't. They have gotten
found a lot of success with a lot of pitchers
who otherwise were dumped by their teams or weren't as

(47:08):
prized prospects that all of a sudden turned into guys
that could succeed. Hopeful for him, I've known him for
a very very long time, had a few opportunities to
sit down and talk with him many many years ago
when he was on the rise and considered one of
their Brightest Stars. Probably six years ago, I sat down
with him for a long TV interview, put together a
nice little package of him throwing one hundred miles an

(47:29):
hour and what he hoped to do. And this was
before the major injuries, but still after the suspension. A
lot of different reasons why Forest Whitley as a Houston
Astros pitcher, there just really wasn't any There's nothing for
us to talk about Forest Whitley as a Houston Astros prospect.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
That's his career as a Houston Astro. Unfortunately, Yeah, it was.
You forget sometimes that they didn't hit on all their picks,
and I think this will qualify as that, I mean
far dis Astro's career.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
You're not going to say it was a success. You're
gonna say the exact opposite. It was an unbelievable failure.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
But but what I'm saying is it's so rare to
talk about any of those picks in that manner as
opposed to what most of them were was the opposite.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Of Yeah, we would talk about every one of those
other ones in the way we talk about him. If
they were failures at the major league level, he wouldn't
even get there. Hey, Can we have Alex Bregman know
he's going to be a star?

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Get lost? Hey, can we have Kyle Tucker know he's
going to be a star? Get lost? Hey can we
have Forest Whitley? No, he's going to be a star?
Get lost.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
They said the same thing on all three of them,
and they were right most of the time. They were
right two of those three times. They never even got
to find out if he was a major league star.
Somebody else will find out. Presumably we have the answer,
but not by watching him play at that level, by
watching his career unravel in a way that nobody would
have expected. With the I mean he's had It's not

(48:55):
just as oh he had a bad elbow, had Tommy
Johnny just never really he had a shoulder injury.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
I had an oblique injury, had a knee injury.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
He did have Tommy john surgery, and he had the suspension,
and his development was stunted like every other minor league
pitcher by the COVID season. Like a billion different things
went wrong. And I'm not excusing him for it, clearly
not excusing him for a suspension. I'm just saying, there's
so many different reasons why we got to this point,
and it is very much unlike those But you could
also argue, unlike those others, while Kyle and Alex were

(49:24):
considered really really good prospects, he was considered better the
number one, not Houston's number one prospect, the number one prospect,
Baseball's top prospect. And I totally get saying no to deals.
I get to why Jeff did it, and I don't
think he made a mistake at the time. Clearly he

(49:47):
didn't either. It just didn't work out.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
No, and again, you're gonna trust Jeff Luno's judgment one
hundred times out of one hundred on pretty much any pick.
I missed him so much.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
But I mean the Alex Bregman pick and the Korea
pick and the Springer pick we clearly all talk about
all the time, and technically if you make the list
even harder to push away from. Well, we're only going
to talk about their very first pick in each of
those drafts, right, Okay, Well, then we're not going to
talk about Kyle Tucker since he was drafted after Alex.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
We'll talk about Alex.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
But they drafted Whitley the year after Bregman, and then
they drafted in back to back years.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Two players who they used.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
To get Zach Greenke from Arizona Becascas and Beer thirty.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Game seven of the World Series starter Zach Grienky, both.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Of whom are basically Forest Whitley's Coscas has pitched a
little bit more at the major league level, but such
a brief period of time and no success seth. Beer
is played for a position player roughly the same amount
as forst Whitley is a major leaguer, which is say,
essentially none and their next first round pick after that.
He's the triple A catcher for the Chicago White Sox

(50:53):
Corey Lee. Yeah, like they had a run aft thing
came up in the broadcast over those last three days. Yeah,
because they were talking about they're much much better catching
prospect Teel who is now behind the plate, but in
twenty eleven Springer Correa Appel Aiken which turned into Bregman
and Tucker. Over those six years, you drafted four or

(51:15):
five drafts. You drafted four absolute unbelievable superstars, all of
whom played.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
On your World Series team or teams.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
And then in the next five draft you drafted five
players who are all busts, includes Alex Santos, who's still
in their system.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
It is why.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
What the Astros did kills me from the cheating scandal,
because it's so hard to win in Major League Baseball.
It's so hard to build organically a team that does
just that and then keeps winning, and a bunch of
idiots are just gonna be like wow, being on trash cans.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Bunch of idiots would probably be burning up the phone
lines and my social now saying hey, that's totally unfair.
Wex you just squee skewed the data to make a point,
and they would be right. So let me give you
all of it. The Springer, Coorea, appel Ach and Bregman
picks three were number one overall. Bregman was two, Tucker
was five, and Spring was eleven. Every other pick I

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mentioned fifteen, seventeen, twenty eight, thirty two, seventy two. They
haven't had a pick inside the top twenty seven since
twenty seventeen.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
And what happened that year, wex ah, they won at all. Well,
people think it's tainted. I understand why they do think that.
I get it completely. So when that happens, your picks
stop being number one or number two or number five,
and so on, the.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Odds of hitting on them changes dramatically back to the
rockets and trades.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
When we come back.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Ninety, it is the eighteen Sports Talk seven ninety so
the uh, the Kevin Durant deal and what we were

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mentioning earlier about one article out there, how do you
say this last guy, this guy's last name, Evan, Sidery,
Sidery Forbes guy. Uh, Evan, Sure, that's how I say.
That's how he says. And you mentioned, you know what
he had thrown out there, that what he's usually throwing
out there is what everybody else is reporting. You just

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found it for us.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Well, actually to be fair in this case, I mean,
he's a guy that has a lot of followers, but
this guy in uh Phoenix has even more. Yeah, John Gambadoro,
that guy, yeah on his podcast. That Durant's preference. And
again this goes back to what we were talking about earlier,

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where the Spurs are kind of left out of Sham's reporting.
Durant's preference appears to be landing in Texas with either
Houston or the Spurs. Now, I don't know if that
goes back to what you were saying, which is that
anytime anybody outside of Phoenix says something, someone in Phoenix
says that's wrong, he's the someone. He's the one that
says it's wrong. So is he that patched in? I mean,
does he work for the Son's organization.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
He's very well respected out there, and I do think
he knows what he's talking about. Everyone gets they're trying to.
A lot of chest puffing is happening during this time
of the year. So I think there'll be a way
where at the end of it, they're both going to say, yeah,
this is what I told you. I told you, So
it's going to work out that way. I still think
there's a big difference between Houston San Antonio from a
Kevin Durant perspective, Clearly there can be a big difference

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in what they offer and are willing to offer. If
I'm san Antonio, are you willing to offer more, so
to speak, than Houston is. Yeah, probably because you're in
a different place. Actually, probably might believe they even have
more assets. They still don't have the asset that Houston has.
That's the control of some of Phoenix's future draft. But
I also think the Rockets are more of a line

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in the sand kind of situation. Here's what we're willing
to offer. I think the Rockets might also be in
a better position because they're a little belief for me
personally that he wants to help orchestrate a deal to
come to Houston, and he wants to help orchestrat a
deal so his coach is Ima Udoka, and he wants
to help orchestrat a deal so he gets to play
for a team that isn't building towards the title. They're

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there the moment he walks through the door, the moment
they issue him his number, thirty four jersey plus one,
and he gets to be a Houston Rocket. Guess who's
a championship contender in his mind. I don't know if
the odds makers and the NBA and the people that
hate talking nicely about Houston will agree, because I'm sure
they'll say, boy, are they dumb for doing this? Whether

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they think it or not, they'll say it. But that's
how I see it from his perspective. Can san Antonio
elevate to that level? Definitely? I think that they could.
But he's taking a bigger risk. He's doesn't I would
assume he knows next to nothing about his head coach, Mitch.
I assume he knows next to nothing about Victor. I'm
sure he might have all the information he needs about

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Dearon Fox. He might think very highly of him, he
might not think very highly of him. Dearon Fox is
pushing a lot closer to ten years in the NBA
as a leader of a team from the point guard
position then the other way, And what is the view
of him from NBA players as it relates to winning.
I do think Houston's in a much much better position.
The only position from a team standpoint of the Knicks, Heat, Rockets,

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Spurs and Timberwolves that they aren't clearly better than is Timberwolves.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
But I think there's other reasons why he wants to
be here over them.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
Total speculation on my part, not reporting that, not saying
his preference is my guess is I can believe it.
I can make you believe it that at the end
of the day, is he winds down his career, he's
going to play three years in the NBA max, He's
only under contract for one, and I do believe he
gets moved in the same way Jimmy Butler got moved.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
He's going somewhere and he.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
Will get his extension the moment he sets foot in
their facility. He'll get two years, one hundred and twelve
hundred and seventeen hundred and twenty one million, whatever the
figures are that go with the fifty four million. He's
already due for this one year, and that gives him
three years, and it puts him in that situation for
three years. He does have an option, and we brought
it up earlier, the Kauhi option. I'll just take my
chances and make my fifty four million and see what happens,

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but leave the door open for me to write another
player's tribune article and go somewhere else after a year
my next journey. He's again, taxes not included.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
He's made over four hundred million.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
Dollars in NBA contractual work. If he signs an extension,
he's going to push close to six hundred million dollars
because he's about four fifty. Or if he signs with
anybody that's capable of winning for the VET minimum or
whatever they have available, Yeah, he's probably leaving forty to
eighty million dollars on the table.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
If it's a one versus or a two year deal.
He's not doing that. Why not, because he's not gonna
leave No NBA player will leave forty to eighty million
on the table for any reason.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
He's he's what's left for him to do. You can
answer earn money if you think that's all he's in
it for.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Well, if I think you're right about the Houston versus
San Antonio situation, sure he said he could leave that
money on the table.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
If he goes to a team that's figured out a
way that they can sign and trade, or they can
do this and he can still get paid a pretty
efty sum, then he's not giving up that much. But
there's always that opportunity if you want to leave yourself open.
It's pretty much signed anywhere you play out the year,
wherever you go, and then you make your decision on
I want to go somewhere and help them win because.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
I'm still good. I think you're right if it comes to,
you know, Houston and San Antonio. If he wants to win,
Houston's to play. I don't care. You can talk about
what he would look like with Victor Winbin Yama and
dierin f you're not giving me specifics about what the
surrounding cast is. And you're not guaranteeing me that A
they'll be healthy or B they can play well together.

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I don't care who it is. You don't know until
you put them all on the same floor.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
What's Kevin Durant betting on? If he's going to X team?
And I'll run through the teams. If Kevin Durant goes
to the Minnesota Timberwolves, what is Kevin Durant betting on
coming out of the West. No, he's betting on Anthony Edwards.
That's what he's betting on. He goes to the Miami
he who's he betting on? Sadly, he's betting on pat Riley.
Gonna say, betting on Kevin Durant, that's a losing proposition.
If he goes to San Antonio, who's he betting on?

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He's betting on Victor Webbin Yama. If he goes to Houston,
who's he betting on? Me Udoka Bingo. So those are
his options. And I did not mention the New York
Knicks because essentially, I guess, I guess you can't just
say they're head coach right now? Betting on Jalen Brunton.
I think it's probably the fairest equal answer for those five.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
So if you're Kevin Durant, what would you bet on?
What would you want to bet on?

Speaker 4 (59:57):
And Anthony Edwards is a pretty good reasonable answer, a
very good answer. That's why I do think if they
can come up with something that makes sense for their
team not to lose too much and to give the
Phoenix Suns something of actual, real future value, which to
me is still questionable for where Phoenix is and what
Minnesota has to offer, and then Houston's next. Houston can

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clearly do Phoenix any which way Phoenix wants to go.
What do you want we have it, and what do
we have that nobody else has your picks, the control
of your picks. Honestly, as I've laid it out for you,
I could have said this at the jump, but we
have four hours. Kevin Durant, in my opinion, is playing
for the Rockets or the Timberwolves. Wow, so Spurs do

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not factor into your if a factor in but they
get chopped off the tree before he gets to the top,
Well they're not a factor then that that's like saying
he almost won the cy young. He finished third and
nobody voted for him first, So how did he almost win?
How is he in contention for it? They get votes
to thirty people and not a single one of them
wanted to get him the award, but he finished thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Was in the hunt? No, he wasn't. Nobody thought he
should win. Not in the hunt. So I'm with you,
not in the hunt. That's an interesting way of looking
at things.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
Like run through what happened the last eight weeks in
the West and who beat who and who fell out
of the playoffs, and how did Denver lose, and how
did the Clippers lose, and how did the Lakers and
the Rockets and the Warriors lose? And now pit any
one of those losers against Victor weberin Yama, Kevin Durant,
even Stefan Castle and Darn Fox and Mitch Johnson leading

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the way, do you anticipate that forsome and whatever else
san Antonio keeps out playing some of these teams that
were ousted, or three of these teams that were ousted,
so they can then be in the finals, even to
beat two of them just to reach the Western Conference finals.
But I know for a fact you can say, oh yeah,
even though I don't know what Minnesota is giving up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
I could see Kevin Durant Anthony Edwards going to the
Western Conference Finals and not knowing what the Rockets give up.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
I could see Kevin Durant emay Udoka making it to
the Western Conference Finals without even thinking about it. I
just don't think you could say that this year or
any of his three years in San Antonio about if
he goes there, and if I were Rich climbing his
agent and I were Kevin out have a hard time
not seeing it that way.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
You've just got if you're the Rockets and you want
you decide, all right, we're going to get Kevin Durant.
I got a big, big, big issue of giving away
too much in player capital. You want to give up
those draft picks. I'm honestly not that upset about it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
So the core of who played on the court in
the postseason, plus Cam plus Read Shepherd, that's who we're
talking about, right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
And all we keep hearing about, whether it's true or not,
is that here goes reach Shepherd out to summer league
because he's going to have a more prominent role this year.
And I'm just like I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
I don't ever know what to say about summer league
for a second year guy. I mean, Reach Shepherd could
go to Summer League with a blindfold and run rough
shot in summer league. Yeah, don't that doesn't do anything
the summer league and think, oh wow, this guy can play. Yeah,
no kidding, who's he playing out of this? Non NBA players.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Don't look at the Rio grand and think that you
need to watch him at NBA competition before you determine
whether or not he's going to have a prominent role.
And he couldn't get on the floor against the NBA
competition last year. Yeah, but that's because he plays for
a good team.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
But to me, I feel like when I saw Cam
Whitmore out on the floor against NBA competition versus when
I saw Reid, Who's two different approaches, two different types
of or two different players. I know they're two different
types of players.

Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
One other angle of this discussion, which will be brought
to the forefront as we continue it is how do
the other team see it? Okay, we'll give you one
of them. Who do you want more? Who do other
teams want more? How do they view Reid and Cam
too likely. Can we have that player candidates and Annie
Kevin Durant or any other player deal.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
We'll discuss.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
The A team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Left you last segment some discussion about the Rockets.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Wanted to table that momentarily.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
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Cole Thompson at Adam J. Wexler at Adam Clinton of
course the big one at Sports Talk seven ninety. Astros
and Twins tonight as expected, and we'll set sail on

(01:04:30):
a victory tonight without the third baseman that they've seen
most of the year handling business over there at third base.
Was both worried last night when he left the game
about his availability and the likely scenario that it would
present for Joe spoted today, which has come true.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
He's out of the lineup over at third base.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
This more Ecio du bond I means second base remains
unoccupied until the manager pencils in Brendan Rodgers over there,
so he will play along with Mauricio tonight. Janer Diaz
is bumped all the way up to Peretis's spot in
the lineup. Yanner will do the catching tonight for Colton Gordon.
Jiner has been hitting the ball very well. You heard
us discuss that earlier this afternoon about almost at an

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eight hundred ops clip over his last forty games or so,
Jeremy paying you back in there to lead things off.
Altuve is the DH batting behind Yiner, a cleanup hitter,
which was not the case the last couple of days
because that's where Yiner had been. Your first baseman, Christian Walker,
Jake Myers bumped up to five, cam Smith bumped up
to six, Melton is at seven. All three year outfielders

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spent a lot of time batting with each other, and
they still will. But the bottom two will be those
I just mentioned, Marisio Dubon and Brendan Rodgers. Little bit
of curiosity each time Joe chooses this route with his
open position, whether it's second base tonight or whatever else
he wants to do. Of why Rogers continues to be
the selection. I don't think Shay Whitcomb is great. I

(01:05:58):
don't even think he's average, but I don't think he
should be watching Brendan Rodgers play yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Get the I get that hint more often than not
these days with you. I mean, it's too many situations
are coming up where he's just not producing well.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
He's not producing by grounding out weekly to first correct
swinging and missing at each of the three pitches that
come maybe one of which was a strike, and walking
back to the dugout.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
The bats look bad. The results continue to be bad.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
And I know he and the Astros talk a lot
about what they wanted to change with his swing, and
I think it's pretty obvious they've made those changes because
if you look at some of the peripherals, they've made
the changes they want to make. He hits the ball
in the air so much more than he ever has
in his entire career, and he's not driving the ball
at all. This is a guy for a second baseman.

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He has reasonably good pop and forty three extra base
hits last year. It's had multiple seasons of forty extra
base hits. Has six in one hundred and twenty two
played appearances this year. He hits the ball with no force,
it seems like, and yet his hard hit percentage is good.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
His bat speed seems fine.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
There's a weird balance of what actually looks good peripherally
and what looks really bad peripherally, And the only thing
that matters are the facts he cannot hit the baseball
this year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
But what like when I look at his numbers and
Maurisio du Bond's numbers side by side, I mean, it's
not a whole lot of difference. So why do I
feel is it because I've seen more of Mauricio Dubon
in an astros uniform contributing that makes me not have
that same recoil response that you do when you see
Rogers in the lineup.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
I mean, it's a matter of how much you really
want to dig into it if you want to just
say they look fairly similar, and they do. You know,
two guys that are under six hundred ops, what's the
big deal? What's the difference? Neither one of them hits
for a lot of power? Are you mean you're really
trying to convince me there's some major difference between the two,
And you're right, I don't think I necessary could one
thing that stands out, so I'll get to the actual

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numbers to help drive home that point even more? Is
the non productive at bats, which are a staple of
two astros this year, Christian Walker and Brendan Rodgers, And
most notably they come from the fact that they go
up to the plate and then walk back to the
dugout and the ball hasn't gone anywhere because they didn't
hit it, and they struck out. Number one on the
team among players who've stood at home plate more than

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twenty nine times, Brendan Rodgers, he strikes out thirty eight
percent of his one hundred and twenty two plate appearances.
That's absurd, absolutely out of control.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Number. Can't have that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
He's in the line of today batting ninth. Number one
on the team strikes out the fewest six percent at
the time. That's Mauricio Dubon, So I know you're right.
He's five ninety oh ps Rogers five thirty nine. I
don't expect either one of them to be driving doubles
and triples and homers all over the place. All that
I get, but Mauricio Dubon has a enormously higher likelihood

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to produce a productive at bat. Hit behind a runner,
fly hit the fly ball where a guy can go
from second to third. Hit a fly ball where a
guy can score on it, and it's a sack fly.
Rogers is so unlikely to even do that. I'm not
even asking for a hit, ask you to hit the ball,
make contact of any kind. So, like I said, Dubon
is in the lineup, and Whitcomb's sample sizes both for

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this year and his career is zero, so it's of
no consequence. But I would wonder, like, well, what's again?
Like why is he here? I don't you already know
what Rogers can do? Or is there some enormous defensive factor?
And if there is, Rogers definitely is a better second
base defender than witcamb. I don't doubt that they also

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gave ninety feet away last night because of a flub
that Brendan Rodgers made, couldn't grab a ball cleanly, then
kicked it or knead it away from him, and neither
he nor esoch Paritis realized.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Hey man, there's nobody at third base until it was
too late.

Speaker 8 (01:10:01):
Let me ask you guys something. When does the conversation
begin on potentially making a trade.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
For a second baseman?

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
Never?

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Okay, just want to make sure that we were on
the same page here.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
The only I say it quickly because then like Brendan
Rodgers being very very good, it would would be great
if you know, if the play for bringing him here
worked out, he would be playing a ton. JOSEL two
would be in the outfield, a ton. You'd work with
the yord On injury and the fact that Jacob Melton
is here. Melton needs to play in the outfield, So
we're gonna sit Rogers. Maybe there's a day where one

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of them is the DH because they're hitting.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
You want there.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
I mean, Brendan Rodgers is here for one reason. His bat, well,
he can't ever be the DH because it's bad is awful.
If things worked out and you suggest trading for a
second baseman, well yeah, I could see that happening, but
I don't imagine of all the holes that they have.
You're you're right in suggesting it, and I'm a super
fast answer because I'm always hesitant to believe they're gonna

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permanently close the door to Jose al Tuove playing forty
games a year there at second base if you trade
for a second basement, unless that second basement is so
good offensively, he's an option when you play ord On
in the outfield to be your DH. I don't know
where that second basement is because whoever you're trading for.
Go back to yesterday's conversation about eight million dollars Savali,

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you're you're not trading for a player that makes any money.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
I don't think in twenty twenty five plus it shuts
the window one hose to playing at second base from
here on out. But didn't they kind of do that anyway?

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
They really right, that's they really want that, but they
know seasons don't play out like that. Joseel Tuve has
already played more second base than I imagine he or
Joe or Dana expected, but it's for other reasons. It's
for other circumstances, for what's happened with the rest of
their outfield, Like you could you know they got four
outfielders when they broke camp. If Alvarez is one of them,

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that aren't you know dak Zach Decenzo can play out
there he's hurt. Well, Chas can play out there, he's hurt.
Will Jordon he's hurt. Yeah, they've hit. So who do
you bring up when they're hurt outfielders and they're playing.
Cam Smith made the team and Jacob Melton has become
an everyday player from the moment he arrived.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
What was Cam Smith's original position again, because I've forgotten
already the.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
Position that easta Peretes vacated. But if he had been
playing third base in the minor leagues all year, he
would be starting at third base tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Why don't you start him at third base tonight? Anyways,
he hasn't been there or take taken grounders there for
such a long period of time. You're putting him in
a very bad He's also never seen a major league
hot corner before.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
It's a bad place for him to be, and the
Astros are correctly choosing not to put him there at
least currently.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
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Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
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City Home Network. By the way, the injuries you mentioned
in the last segment with the Astros, particularly their outfielders
and everything else, I don't know, you know what the
future holds for the Astros this season as far as hey,

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what could we go get at the deadline? I know
what Dana Brown has said back end starting pitching in
a left handed bat, but those are pretty generic things
to say that a lot of teams probably say this
time of year. What I do wonder is something that
was put out there by MLB dot Com. And this
is for any team that's looking to make a move.

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How much do you think Arizona's going to factor in
to any sort of deadline deal or just just basically
being sellers versus anything else. When this these sort of
conversations start to take place, whether it be with the
Astros or anything else. And by the way, I did
not think as the season got underway that we'd be

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talking about the Astros being buyers. The way that the
season was going and the way the injury situation was going, I.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
Think it's going to look a lot like last year
for the Astros, and that man, I don't know how
they're going to be buyers. And then when they were
buyers and they did their buying at the deadline, the
prices were out of control. And that's why at the
time everyone flipped out about how much it cost to
get a back end starter, because that's exactly what you say,
Kakuchi was.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
I mean, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
I don't think Dana Brown came out and said, we're
really excited about acquiring the twenty twenty five opening day
starter that we just acquired today.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
I mean it was true.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
He was the opening day starter this year for the Angels.
I don't think they anticipated him being anywhere near as
good as he was, but they needed somebody, and the
price for that somebody, in terms of your team's prospects,
was very costly. And every time it comes up where
the Astros make a deal, especially after those three big
deals many years ago of Greenky Cole, and Verlander and

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the second Verlander deal more recently, you've run out of
these are guys that every team will want and you're
instead looking at are these guys that this particular team
will maybe want. But there's a couple teams, there's probably
ten teams, fifteen teams that would have been you would
have been able to put a deal together for something
else with low Perffido Wagner, and Jake Bloss. That's usually

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what I was most up and like, that's a lot
of what you have to give up, And you look
at it right now and probably a year from now
and another year from now, what did you really give up?
Will Wagner's a fringe major leaguer. He's been there with
the Jays throughout the year. Low Perfedo has been a
minor leaguer all year, and he's having a less successful
year on the miners this year than he did last

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year with the Astros. And unfortunately Jake Bloss's season is
over because of arm surgery, so all of their futures
are unexciting at best. You know, granted, the future of
Yusa Kakuchi zero with the Astros, but you knew that
going in, and those were expectation. Never expected to sign him.
So it's a pitcher much like that that you'd be

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looking at. And I was curious then as much as
I'm curious now, what would the price have been for you, say, Kakuchi,
if you had convinced the Blue Jays to trade him
to you on June twenty seventh, on June fourteenth, like
I think the Astros would love to do this year.
I kind of think it's you know, Aaron Savali just

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got traded for Andrew Vaughan, the player we talked about yesterday.
I think Aaron Savali's not done being traded this year.
I think the Chicago White Sox added him so they
could put him in their rotation so you could pitch well,
and they could move him again at the deadline because
of what may or may not be available to other teams.
And it's probably a savale level talent that the Astros

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would be looking at in trade. And back to the
original point, what are they going to get for the
money they're willing to spend, the literal money on their
CBT figure that they're willing to spend. How good can
that pitcher really be?

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Well? And if it's the case of Arizona, like just say,
they decide they are going to be selling because they're
right at five hundred right now, I believe.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
And there are ways back in the wild card race
because of so many teams that are in, but they're
definitely in it at thirty four and thirty four.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Do just these because these are the two that are mentioned.
Do either of these doing things for you? As far
as the back ends starting pitching aspect Zach Gallon or
Merrill Kelly, Yes, they absolutely do.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
Unfortunately, in both of their cases there are reasons why
you'd have some concern. Merrill Kelly is he's excellent, he's
front line pitcher.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Somebody else is gonna go get him.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
I don't know how they would put a package together
best package together to go get him, and we'll get
to each of their respective contractual situations. In a moment,
Zach Gallon was what Kelly is now and he is
kind of going through it. I guess you could say,
but how many pictures does that happen with? And then
they get traded at the deadline and Justin Verlander was

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doing that. I know it's different, but he was not
having a good season in Detroit when he got originally
traded to the Astros.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
I haven't looked deeply in enough into Zach Gallen's season.
I've been paying attention all season and watching him not
have good start after not have good start, and his
are currently sits in the Colton Gordon range, almost as
good as Gordon, not quite almost.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
He's at five point fifteen, Gordon's at five to eleven.
It's a concern.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
Now he's gonna probably you're gonna give him the ball
for five innings every time he goes out there, hopefully
six or more, and he's definitely worth taking a chance on.
And the price has gone down because of how poorly
he's pitched. But this is a Game one caliber starter
for the Diamondbacks during these years they've been I mean
they were in the World Series and he was at
the front end of their rotation two years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Well, but that's how that's how baseball is. I mean,
the Astros and the Rangers were in the ALCS two
years ago. They might be looking at it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
We went out and spent big money on a pitcher
who will not contribute to us winning until twenty twenty seven.
Now in Corbyn Burns. A front line of Kelly Gallon
and Burns, that's what they envision. That's how we're gonna
get to the playoffs. That's so we're gonna snag a
nationally wild card spot, and for some of the year
it looked like they would. And now if they're in

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cell mode, which they absolutely have to consider, those are
the two pitchers that every single team is gonna be
calling about and be looking at them a little bit differently.
Free agency is what is in the future for Gallon.
He's already making thirteen and a half million. He gets
out of his arbitration control after this year, and they
had not come to a long term agreement with him.

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So you're probably you say Kakuchi all over again. I
don't think the Astros are the team that's his long
term home.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
That's that's a lot. Yeah, probably to give up. But
if you think you can, I mean, to me, this
is as much about the al seeming like it's winnable
as anything else this season. I mean, oh it is.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
It is like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
You're gonna wait. To me, it's unfortunate.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
The timing is gonna give you a very small, small
window to find out the answer. Are are you okay
going into the playoffs with Brown, Valdez and whomever is
pitching better as you arrive at the postseason as your
number three Arraghetty or McCullers, knowing that those are your
only four real options throughout your postseason run. Whenever you play,
whoever you play, whatever rest you've had, you probably have

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a four man rotation of starters. And it's those four
that's the question you're asking. I can't imagine anybody else
that's pitched for the Astros this year starter that gets
the ball to start a game.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Unless you're having a bullpen game like.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
Gordon and Walter and blue Ball and Lola, they're not
starting postseason games.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Everything you're saying is true, But who has a better
one two punch than Hunter Brown and fromber Valdez, which.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
You have a hard time winning a series if that's
all you have, if you haven't gotten your self confidence
in both of those two other guys for at least
some of the other games. Heck, in a seven game series,
you now have to win all of their starts. Yeah,
once you get lucky and one of the other three.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
And I'd like to say that Spencer Arraghty will be
right back where he was last year, But until he
does it, I can't say that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
The timing of it is a little bit tricky because
because of how long the Seattle Mariners injured Spencer Sraghetti
for we're now putting it two months.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
He's pitched twice.

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
You blame them, well, they hit him. It was their fault,
absolutely and positively. Two in two to go.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
I didn't know this was going to happen here in
a random off day during the NFL season. Antonio Brown, Really, yeah,
you're next.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
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Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Four o'clock Cower underway here on a Friday edition of
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Network wex ac Cole Thompson with you taking up until
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which I hope you guys are all going to enjoy

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and have plans for this weekend. Those of you out
there mention this going into the break. Look, anytime there
is Antonio Brown news these days, is there really anything
that would surprise you at this point? I know this
is shocking someone.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
Yea, if it were good news, I would be shocked.
If he was involved in something that was awesome, that
would be surprising to me. If there was something I thought, man,
this is great. This guy's just the best. Oh, it
was nice of of him to be involved there. I
was cool seeing him at that event. Yeah, I would
think that would be surprising. But no, what emerged from
this And I don't know if his involvement is as

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bad as it sounds.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
We don't know that yet.

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
But I'll ask you what direction you want me to
go in before I take you down that path. But
do you want me to read from which of the
following articles? Miami police seek Antonio Brown on attempted murder charge,
NFL Star wide receiver Antonio Brown facing attempted murder charge,
arrest warrant issued for former NFL wide receiver Antonio Brown

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on attempted murder charge, or Antonio Brown goes on bizarre
tweetstorm after attempted murder charge.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Any of those four, Definitely the last one. We'll go
with the fourth one.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Antonio Brown is in fact being sought on an attempted
murdered charge, although when you go to the incident itself,
which was at a always awesome celebrity boxing event, he was,
in his words as written on his ex account, I

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was jumped by multiple individuals who tried to steal my
jewelry and cause physical harm to me. Contrary to some
videos circulating, police temporarily detained me until I received my
side of the story and then released me. Now the
all caps. I went home that night and was not arrested.
Back to regular I will be talking to my legal
counsel and attorneys on pressing charges on the individuals that

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jumped me. You want to go to the warrant next Yes.
According to the warrant, witnesses told police officers Brown was
the shooter. Two shell casings were found at the scene.
Brown was unarmed at the time he was detained, but
the man he allegedly punched during the altercation told police
that Brown quote began to run toward him with a
firearm after the fight had already been broken up, and
shot at him twice. There is a previous relationship. This

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particular man identified Brown on surveillance footage and also said
he's known him since twenty twenty two. The PD calls
it an open investigation. He's not been not turned himself in,
he's not been arrested. Warn't also instruct Santonio if you
wouldn't mind posting ten thousand dollars bond and remain on
house arrested until.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Taral just against bizarre tweet storm.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
I don't know if I would call it that, but
he did post a video of him the hashtag love
from the Middle East. He's riding a bicycle in the streets.
It would be one of these bizarre posts, I guess.
When the other one, which was kind of telling you
what happened more recently, as in during our program almost

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during our program a little while ago, I posted a
picture of him gloves up like he's set to participate
in a boxing event, says, what doesn't kill me makes
me stronger?

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Want to play than play hard? When is his stream,
if you will, on his social media.

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
On a bizarre tweetstorm? You mean the one that he
started in December of twenty ten. Yeah, when he joined
the platform.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
When is it not bizarre? When is it not a
not only like a stream of consciousness if you want
to call it that, And that's putting it very very kindly.
It's very NSFW almost all the time I did. Now,
he did provide something to society, if you will, at
one point that I think we were all happy about

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if you were trying to consume a product you weren't
able to, which was that terrible boxing match that no
one could get it because it crashed everything. And so
he just sat there in a suite at Jerry World
and live streamed the whole thing. And he did it
the most effective way possible for someone in that situation.
He didn't try to zoom in down on the floor.
He did it on the huge screen.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
What's another big combat sport event, a boxing event or
an MMA or UFC event that's coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Whatever, the UFC three hundred and whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
Let's say UFC three hundred, whatever it is, is on
the horizon. It's next month. It's going to be at
blank Venue. And you get word that Antonio Brown wants
to come. He's looking for you to help get him
in or where you can I go?

Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
Here?

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Can I go there? Can you get me tickets? Or whatever?

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
Don't you want to not have him there? I mean,
don't you want to say no? Or are you afraid
to say no?

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
Why would I be afraid to say no? Because of
what would then happen?

Speaker 4 (01:26:51):
And I don't mean physically, I mean, who knows what
could happen from a pr standpoint with his bizarre habits.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
I think social media, well, I think there are certain
like this is a celebrity boxing event. It's very different.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
I'm talking about one of the because that event you're
speaking of is pretty close to a major event I
would call the interest and it makes it a major event.
The actual event itself probably not a major event to
non boxers boxing each other. And Paul's getting close to
being a real boxer. Tyson's getting further away from being
a real boxer that ended long ago.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
But what you're talking about is eyeballs. What you're talking
about is a guy who you know, right or wrong
or however you feel about him, people pay attention to,
but he doesn't have any impact on that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:42):
The only way he would is if you did say no,
he's not going to make more people watch because on knowing,
he's not going to tell people on going tonight's which
makes it's just attending until an incident happens.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
Nobody even knows he's there. Well, no, that's not true,
because he has two point five million followers and so
he's gonna let her. But you know that he's there.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
I mean, he hasn't shown a habit of hey, I'm
going to whatever tonight or next week, come along for
my live stream.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Well what I'm saying, I mean what I just pointed
out when that feed went down for that Tyson charity
celebrity whatever it was event charity their pocketbooks. Yeah, I
just thought that when I said it, well I could
remember the parameters, That's how little I thought of that
whole thing. But like he was the numbers alone. And

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again that's a fluky thing, sure for sure, But when
you start with two point five million and we're talking
about a literally a viral thing, you know, that's that's
what he's capable of. I'm not saying that it's what
will happen every time. So when you just asked me
the question do you want do not want him there?
I don't think I would say I don't want him there,
as much as that might end up biting me in

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the backside in different ways.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
Well, hopefully that won't come up for any other people
to put on events like that. But nonetheless, this is
too many times he's involved. Like I said, I don't
know that he was involved enough to where it's going
to amount to anything other than a warrant's been issued
or he's been arrested, or he spoke to police, and
that's gonna end up being that. But there he is
in the middle of something I think most people would

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prefer not to be in the middle.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
It's got a very Kanye vibe to him in that
it's probably going to be a disaster of some sort.
But in true train wreck fashion, you can't you can't
look away from it. You gotta watch every single second.

Speaker 4 (01:29:32):
Yeah, I just and I totally disagree I'll come there
are two point five million followers.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
Why I'm not one of them?

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:41):
I only know when an incident happens, anything that's gone
on with Antonio Brown's life since he retired, That's the
only reason I know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
And I don't seek it out. I'm not interested in it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
I talk about it here a ton because clearly other
people are, and I'm trying to recognize that, but I'm
not at all. I'm only interested to see if there
are there's more to what some people believe is the
root of all these problems. That's what which he mocks
all the time, that here's what happened to me as
an NFL player, and it's some of the reasons why

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this is what's happening to me now.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
But how many things can that apply to? That way
of thinking? And I'm the same way about certain There
are people Taylor Swift, and I know you're gonna sit
there and say, oh, it's not even the same thing. Well,
I'll probably say it different way. It's subjective though, Like
a lot of people like her and want to pay
attention to every little thing she does, I'm not one
of them. I Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:32):
The difference is that we were not using the same words,
and we're not talking about the same incidents. We're not
even talking about any incidents. But she went to a
hockey game and the smart people that put the program
on television put her on television with Travis, and we've
seen all sorts of other things from it. They score
a goal, the red team scores a goal, and they
put her on. Why wouldn't you that that's fine? Well,

(01:30:52):
I just pick somebody the days in between her attending
this hockey game, and I don't know the last five
hundred and three, one hundred and fifty days since she
went to a Travis Kelcey game.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
Nobody pays anything.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
We don't pay any attention to her, and we never
pay any attention to her except when she attends a game.
Like she's not doing anything wrong. She's not going on
a bizarre tweet storm. And that's like the least of
our worries with Antonio Brown. Yeah, but like you're right,
the interest in.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
Her is large. But that's that's the principle I'm getting at.
She did cost Florida a game last night. Well, I
just picked a name. I mean, it could be anybody
that has I mean, they were up three to nothing
and then they lost. I picked a name that has
a big following, and I could have picked any name,
because the principal remains for whatever reason, a large group
of people give a damn about what this person does.

Speaker 4 (01:31:42):
And the difference is a lot of people give it
about her because they like her or her music. A
lot of people are only interested in Antonio Brown because
it's a train wreck. They're not interested in him. They're
not fans of his not to that number. There are
fans of it as a football player. How could you
be a fan of what he's doing. Well, you're thinking
with logic, and you can't do that in today's society.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
You just can't.

Speaker 5 (01:32:04):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
But I am sitting here. You're sitting here like I
am telling a train wreck.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
This is probably the fifth time this week we've talked
about it, you know, when so many people are I'm like,
come on, man, we've got brains in our heads.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
We've got better things to I'm trying to explain, Like
that is the social media.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
From an event, Like we're talking about attending the event, Like,
look at these two people you're talking about, and let
me present you with that same question. But use her
as the example, if you found out that Taylor Swift
wanted to come to a concert you guys were having
it a twenty thousand seat venue, would you would you
say yes?

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
I mean, there's no thought. Well, of course you would
say yes, there's good luck. Why somebody that's not Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
Like there's It's probably the point. There's no comparison to
Antonio Brown. Nobody, there's no comparison. Nobody's nobody's been like
for the last you know, fifteen years his athletic career
to his post athletic career. You know, drums up a
lot of attention for how he plays football than his
raiders time for how he doesn't play football. And then now,
I personally don't think there's anybody like.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
I will give him credit for this as we go
to break he has more eyeballs on him now than
he did when he played somehow, and that's impressive for
all the wrong reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
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Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
I was trying to think of comparable people to Antonio Brown,
and you're right, it really is difficult to find. I mean,
you're never gonna find all the factors into one imperfect mess.
But I was like, Okay, well, who are some of
the people that got kept getting caught up in the news?

(01:33:54):
For all? The one who's that Brady Spears. It's the
closest one that you could think of. Probably certainly isn't
Taylor Swift These days, she's in a lot of trouble.
So I guess you could make that comparison. But Boom,
just a matter of it's just so, it seems so harmless.

(01:34:14):
He seems the opposite. Isn't Oj kind of similar before
he died? I don't think Nordburg's like that at all,
Not Nordberg the guy the caricature at the very end, Hey,
Twitter world, I mean, I can't believe at this point
in time I would say it. I mean, after all,
he was on trial for a double murder, but elf

(01:34:36):
cart Oj Simpson on the X platform or his case,
Hey Twitter worlds, don't forget the most important aspect of
that of that chapter. Right before he passed, No, he
was giving advice on the most ironic things ever here
let me and trials, criminal trials. He'd be like, well,

(01:34:59):
I wouldn't have done talking about Donald Trump and his
thirty fourth filming ironically comical and Antonio Brown isn't He's
as this something.

Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
I'm surprised it's already gotten this many years away, and
nothing awful has happened to him of other people around him,
like death, honestly, and what we're talking about isn't death
to him. But he's there, and you keep gunshots and
people are running.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
Keep putting yourself in. OJJ or Brittany are in those situations.

Speaker 5 (01:35:29):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
Brittany seems like there's in her system that might not
need to be there, and she's probably got an addiction
problem of some sort at some point during these last
fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
You know what I want to know, since we're on
the subject of Brittany, how we got here. No, I
know how he got here. Antonio Brown did it. It's
his fault, but I just like I I feel like
I want to know if there's any connection to the
whole Diddy thing. She's like the latest celebrity that's been
roped into that whole thing. How So her name came

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up in either testimony during the trial or I can't. Honestly,
I'm not completely sure how it came up, but it
was her name was being tied and I think Cassie's
the one that brought it up.

Speaker 4 (01:36:14):
Well, since you like this angle of things so much,
it's one of your most discussed topics that hadn't been
in the news lately. Did you not catch the story
linking former Houston astro's pitcher Wade Miley to the Eric K.
Tyler Skaggs Angel's death.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
No, I did not. I'm shot you guys haven't talked
to There were documents from.

Speaker 4 (01:36:36):
That should never have made the light of day, that
were leaked, that should not have been posted, that have
since been pulled back, but they're out there and the
judge said, no, you can go ahead and report on it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
There it is.

Speaker 4 (01:36:46):
They put it out there and it was a mistake,
but that's what happened, and so the athletic went through
it all.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
Either way.

Speaker 4 (01:36:52):
If you're unaware, Tyler Skaggs, we knew this from when
we were really much more into this awful situation.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
You know, he was.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
It appears there was an addiction to drugs. Some people
kind of dispute whether or not there was, although it
seemed to be going on for about ten years.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
An employee with the Angels was definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
Involved in it and involved with the drugs, and that
many people had had him go through interventions and had
him away from work because he was unable to work
and needed to be hospitalized, rehabilitate, all sorts of things.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
There's no real debate there.

Speaker 4 (01:37:25):
Rusty Harden is involved and that he is the Skag's
family attorney. But in some of these documents it was
revealed that one of the sources, allegedly this person told
that person that some of the drugs used by deceased
Tyler Skaggs came from teammate Wade Miley. Miley is not

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at any comment. Miley's agent, everybody involved had I'm sorry,
what what do you say?

Speaker 8 (01:37:53):
I hate what happened to Tyler, Miley told reporters on
June thirteenth, a day after the athletic report in Miley's
name surfaced. It's so my thoughts are with his family
and friends. But I'm not going to sit here and
talk about things that somebody might have said about me
or whatnot.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
I've never was a witness to any of this. I've
never been accused of any wrongdoing. When I see this
kind of stuff about this particular story, and again doesn't
absolve anything, I just I just think about what people
get upset about and it amuses me because baseball fans,

(01:38:29):
I think largely I'm not even kidding when I say this,
I don't think they care about this story nearly a
fraction as much as the Astros cheating scandal.

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
Yeah, because they don't see it as and guy died right.
One picture is this is gonna sound awful. That's that's
one random person on one random team. And the people
involved should hate me for what I'm saying, and I
apologize for it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:38:53):
And they look at it as so I watched this
game for an enjoyment and you're telling me that this
person cheated me out of that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
That's that's how they view it, and that organization like that.
And then this organization the.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
Organization because of the reason you said, they don't look
at the organization period, Because the organization, even though they're
definitely involved, it's a person that that's why this whole
thing has come about. They're being sued, the organization for
employing this person and for knowing about this and for
all the people that knew about it, and this is
what their claims are.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
How could you not do anything that could have at
least prevented this. We're not trying to.

Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
Spend some he never was involved with anything until or
only because they're not saying that, but the involvement there,
and that's why there's both sides of the Angels are
fighting this.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
The Angels are saying, no, that's not what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
This is a court case, but it doesn't from a
fans perspectives, if I can, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
It's like it is. Clearly it's treated like a suspension.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
Yes, I wonder if if a suspended player for performance
enhancing drug use, he's suspended for eighty games. Here's what
he He took it because he and five other teammates
of this particular team at the major league level also
took it because all six of these players got it
from the employed athletic and performance trainer that gave it

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to him as he was instructed to give it to
him by the general manager, who got word from the
team president that this is what they wanted to do
with these six players who are on their active roster
and playing every single day. And I still don't think
team fans would view it that way, even though that
clearly impacts the integrative game.

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
That's kind of the whole reason performance.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
Enhancing drugs are looked at by the league, presumably negatively,
because it impacts the way they want you to believe
the game is supposed to be played. It is, it
is always amusing to a certain degree, performance enhancing drugs. No,
but everything else you do to enhance your performance. Yes,
it's that is that is the most baseball fan thing ever.

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Because it's not super dangerous to spend three hours in
the cage as super danger as it is to take
this drug. Or it's not illegal to run the bases
a lot, to feel the ball off the green Monster
a lot, versus taking illegal drugs.

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
There's a difference. I do reckon why one I can
kill you and the other one. You know, it's probably
not sure.

Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
All you're trying to do is here, I'm just playing
the game. I'm trying to be better at playing it.
But that's where the some players would view it as, Yeah,
all I'm trying to do is get back to playing
the game. So what if I took something to get
back to the field. It's not like I'm taking something
in between the third and fourth inning. It's not like
I'm taking something every day while I'm healthy, which you

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may or ran out of in doing just while I'm unhealthy.
But yes, this whole details emerging in this civil case.
I can understand Miley making a comment like that, and
I think it's very smartly worded. And you're basically saying, well,
they're gonna he said, she said, me into this proceeding. Well,
I'm going to he said, she said me right back

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out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
Well that's all he can do at this point. It's
just I don't know, man. I just when I think
that story has kind of died down, we get something
like that. I had no idea though.

Speaker 4 (01:42:09):
The athletic, as they usually do, there's another athletic story
that we're getting to at probably before football at five.
I think at four forty five, we will hit you
with that on what they have unearthed.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
I mean Chandler at five. I say, what were you
talking about? With football at five? At five o'clock? Each
and every day we do football at five, except for
Fridays when we do Chandler roam from the athletic, I
am aware.

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
So did you even know that Wade Miley was pitching
where in the major He's in Cincinnati?

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
No kidding, no kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:42:38):
I get well, I guess I when I mean, if
all this came out before that three weeks ago, he
wouldn't have been I mean when was He has only
been around for a couple of starts, and he's barely
played the last two years now, including this year. But otherwise,
if he were not pitching currently for the Reds I doubt,
very seriously Wade Miley would have had a statement about this.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
He would just say I'm not in them.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
There's no no one to get a com call his agent,
he doesn't return the call, or we have no comment
or anything like that. Very easy to be uninvolved. But yes,
five o'clock channeler Rome will join us. The Estoc Perettas
situation only is known as this at this point, and
we'll ask you more about this when we visit the
hamstring injury that left him leaving the game last night
after trying to beat out a double play ball. Is

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feeling better, but he hasn't yet seen any MRI results.
Getting an MRI.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
Today got to the grade.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
I'm sure it's to me, it's automatic. Escoc Perettis is
going on the ten day IL retroactive to June.

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
Twelfth, and then after that he's fine that I don't know, but.

Speaker 4 (01:43:48):
If it's taken two, three, four, five, six days, I'll
take the full ten and take my chances with healthy
players that get to play well.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
I even ask you the question, I don't know what
it is. Yes, I have to say, yes, How are
the Astros going to handle giving us info on this one?
Very very differently? Is the answer.

Speaker 4 (01:44:06):
And I'll tell you why after we do the eighteen
Friday draft, after we do the story at four forty
five that I mentioned. After Chandler Rome joins us on
the phone at five o'clock, so sometime in the five o'clock.

Speaker 9 (01:44:15):
Hour, the eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety. All right,
it's that time of the week where.

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
We collectively basically try to make ourselves feel better about
ourselves by having you vote us as the winner of
an imaginary draft that has nothing to do with the
grand scheme of things in your life, but it's fun.
We call it the eighteen draft with the first pick,

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and with the second pick, with the third pick, with
the second pick, with first pick, Friday Draft, and it
starts right now. So in honor of Metallica being in town,
we thought it would be a good idea today to
draft the best heavy metal Songs, and obviously, as per usual,

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we each get three choices. It's snake style draft and
in order of things this week. Based on the prior weeks,
it appears as though our esteemed colleague and producer Cole
Thompson has the number one pick in this week's A
Team Friday Draft Best heavy Metal Songs. Then who drafts next? Well, actually,

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I'm not for sure it would be you next, Ac,
and then Wexler gets to go ahead and get the
Roundabout all right, all right, I don't think it's easy.

Speaker 8 (01:45:52):
It's my favorite song of all time by this band.
It has the best entry in college football. I am
a college football for Shnado. Something about hearing it in
Black Virginia makes the floor shake. They just perform there,
and they're performing this weekend. Give me Enter Sandman by.

Speaker 4 (01:46:06):
Metallica seems like a reasonable opening selection the coffee of
this week's draft. Duh, I mean that's what first picks
should be there this if you followed along with the
A Team through three different selectors that have picked along
with us. Uh, yes, four four different selectors, Cole being
the fourth that have picked along with us, so several

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years in the making, We have a few drafts, like
the vast majority of them, where there is a selection
that's the selection.

Speaker 3 (01:46:39):
It's going to win you the draft.

Speaker 4 (01:46:40):
Sometimes it doesn't even get taken first, and we're like, huh,
what what are you doing? You're letting somebody else win
when you had the first pick. The drafts are always
best when you know it doesn't work out that way.
Maybe this will be that, maybe it won't. But I'll
wait again to see what I get to select with
my first pick at three.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
All right, so the chalk pick or the obvious pick,
or however you want to call it, has been taken.
And I thought about it long and hard, and I
was thinking about, you know, some of the all time greats.
The Mount Rushmore is if you will in this uh,
in this category of music. And I thought to myself self,

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why don't you give Ozzy Osbourne his due? Why don't
you go with another song much like Inner Sandman, that
is an anthem if you will in stadiums to put
him down for mo Mom coming home. You just you're
just the worst. No, No, that's a good song. No,
but I went with Crazy Training. Of course you did. Yeah,

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it's awesome, especially the intro. That was one be I'm
not gonna lie. I almost won't with that.

Speaker 4 (01:47:45):
Well, what you just said there at the end, to
me is kind of how I would make all of
the selections, kind of oh at the beginning or the
riff or the most recognize him bingo, and so I
think Crazy Train makes quite the uh, quite the opening selection.
I'm going to use a little of Ozzie with my
first pick. He's familiar with this song. It's a little

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paranoid about it.

Speaker 5 (01:48:11):
Is he.

Speaker 4 (01:48:12):
He's familiar with it, and his bandmates even more so.
We'll take Sabbath's own paranoid as my first selection.

Speaker 3 (01:48:20):
I knew you were going to do something with the
name of the band. Well, I would guess.

Speaker 4 (01:48:26):
When you look at like best heavy metal songs, I
feel like a lot of the popular post nineteen ninety
five songs. They were so popular. But I don't think
of these great heavy metal songs. But they were popular,
and they had someone in the band or the lead
singer or somebody that is known for that type of music.

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But it gained such great popularity, I wouldn't think to
ever put it on this list. And then you look
somewhere and it was seventeenth or it was twenty first.
I'm like, this doesn't feel right.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
It felt like this whole.

Speaker 4 (01:48:56):
List is nothing, but the only bands were going to
select over the seven spots.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
Yes, in any of the lists like that that you
would look up, you're gonna see a lot of repeat
offenders if you will, even though, like one of the
opening bands Tomorrow Night is Pantera. I put Pantera Metallica
in the same like little pocket of my life was
that pantheon of its own level? Well, I just there.
They are just joined at the hip to me because

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I listened to them together when I got into that
kind of music, because they were in that that year
range you're talking about. But I don't think of Pantera
as having one of these type of songs even but
I celebrate their entire.

Speaker 4 (01:49:35):
Totally weird to explain. Yeah, I considered this for a while.
Do I intentionally not take a Metallica song? Do I
intentionally take nothing but Metallica songs? Is there any way
I could avoid it? And there is no way. There's
nine choices. I don't think at least one of Metallic
only least one of Metallica's.

Speaker 3 (01:49:57):
I'll take Master of Puppets that's good. It's very very good.
It was on my list as well. And since there
have been two Metallica songs taken, but the ultimate Metallica
song hasn't been taken, I'm taking it now. My second
choice is one by Metallica. There's a lot of Metallica
on this list. I figured that'd be the case with

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the concert that we're talking about this because of all right,
finish up things for yourself.

Speaker 8 (01:50:24):
Cole honestly my favorite drum intro of all time by
any band, and it just gets you pumped.

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
Up right before a workout. I don't take them, but
I know some people do.

Speaker 8 (01:50:37):
I want a painkiller getting pain Killer by Judas Priest.
That's my first pick.

Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
And then this just sounds like the most heavy metal
song of all heavy metal songs. I've only listened to
it a few times.

Speaker 8 (01:50:48):
But when you have it as like the back end
of your selections, and it's a band named Mega Death.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
Why not go with Tornado Souls? Mega Death, the band
hunted by the guy who couldn't stay as the lead
singer of Metallica. It's true and he's still not bitter
about it. That's the good news, all right. These are
all good selections. Much like we talked about before, the
familiarity at the beginning, you hear the riff or the

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drum or whatever it is is, it goes a long
way into picking my final selection. And this is not
an ode to a certain sports talk show host either,
who uses this song at nauseum because of the name
of his program. But I'm gonna go with Welcome to
the Jungle by Guns N' Roses because Slash and his
guitar at the beginning is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:51:39):
Would anyone meet that selection with hey man, they don't
fit the genre.

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
I almost did it, but I'm not gonna do it.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
Probably I can see that, But like, okay, if they're
not heavy metal's a rock band. This is a super
great rock band. But that's the live the rock lifestyle.
Cole got very dangerously close to saying what some people
tried to put on them early, but it was completely
inaccurate because they're not they're not hair metal. They're a band.

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But they came out in the middle of just.

Speaker 4 (01:52:08):
A total you know, is there a difference between them
and Motley Crue In this discussion.

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
See Motley Crue could be called a hair band at
times because they actually wore making it. You call him
for a rock band, a hair band or heavy metal.
I call him hairband. I don't know. That's tough. That's
that's a question I can't answer in less than ten seconds.
Let's put it that way, all right. So that leaves
the last selection for me. Yep, man, I am torn.

(01:52:36):
Stop it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:38):
I will leave only one Judas Priest song selected, and
I won't take breaking the law. I'll break the law
by going past time here and taking Immigrant song by Leeds.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
Oh that's good.

Speaker 5 (01:52:49):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:50):
I like that a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:52:50):
We'll get you guys to vote on it. See how
much coal beats a see by and how bottom of
the barrel?

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
Number three? I finish as usual in the Friday eighteam draft.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
The a t on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:53:08):
You know what we haven't done in a while is.

Speaker 4 (01:53:12):
Shouldn't ask me those questions like you're in rare formally,
you know, I haven't done in a while.

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
Wex what it's down topic that's never gonna happen, lock in.
You're on the wrong show for that entertain and inform
that's see, but what you consider entertainment is again, it's just.

Speaker 4 (01:53:30):
Really quickly, and we're not going to expand on it.
We've been here both the last two days when I
quite finished yet today. Which show is better Yesterdays or.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
Today's Wednesdays not an option? Why Today's is way better?
That's a good answer. Yeah, moving on Wednesdays was amazing
one I don't even remember Wednesday show those two days ago.

Speaker 8 (01:53:50):
Four o'clock hour was one of the best openings that
we've ever done.

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
All the show just unhinged. Everything about it well we
haven't done in a while. For today's segment that we're
talking talking about is some of our honorable mentions.

Speaker 4 (01:54:03):
After the draft, I actually wrote down break in the
Law is my third choice and then thought otherwise of it.
A couple of Ace of Spades was probably the other
thing I left off that I had a hard time doing.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
That was one of mine. When I put Welcome to
the Jungle down on this list, I actually anticipated someone
one of you asking the question that wex ended up saying,
and I guess Cole ended up agreeing with are there
a heavy metal band? But Welcome to the Jungle is
a very hard rock song? Very I mean, if you
want to say it's not heavy metal, fine, I will

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say that I thought, and I paused and considered my
other my in this case, honorable mention as being my
third choice, and it would have been Back in Black
by ACDC. You just got me.

Speaker 4 (01:54:50):
There two bands that were unselected and unmentioned. ACDC was one.
That's what you would have picked? What ACDC song would
you have selected? If we made it a five round
draft coal Hell's Bells, and I probably would have taken
for those about to rock and that.

Speaker 8 (01:55:04):
My other honorable mention was War Assemble by Slayer. Anything Slayer,
I think just belongs that heavy metal kind.

Speaker 4 (01:55:09):
Of the other band I felt like couldn't possibly be
overlooked with nine selections was Iron Maiden.

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
Yeah, I'm not a big Iron Maiden fan. I'm honest.
I just I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:55:21):
I just, I mean, I don't have I couldn't even
tell you which one I think is the best or
I like the most because they sound the sound they
have I just like.

Speaker 3 (01:55:31):
So there's several and I agree, but I just I
don't think, and this is gonna sound super blasphemous as
I'm sitting here wearing a Metallica shirt, they don't. They're
not hard to me. I can see you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:55:44):
And I think that's one of the reasons why I
kind of like their sound. That's why I'll if I
have to work out, and I mean a hard workout,
not just I've been ready to pety time for twenty minutes.
I mean, you're gonna do wall Balls, box jung CrossFit.
I'm gonna kill myself. It is Pantera over iron Maid.
Also unsurprising, despite massive following and popularity, nothing from Kiss again.

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
They're not that hard for me. They're like commercial exactly
what I thought they are. Commercial hair band heavy metal
is the way I would put it. And minus the
heavy metal part.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
Well, I think so much of their heavy metal genre,
so much of their music became so popular at a
certain time, and so much of their they're now known.
And then I think they did a great job promoting
themselves the last like fifteen to twenty years, you know,
showing up here and they're part of this movie, and
they're part of this and just recognizing how different they
are in and out of makeup.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
And their concerts are harder than the music.

Speaker 4 (01:56:40):
Like when you think of there's two different movies and
I'm blanking on the name of the James Franco movie
with Brian Cranston, him kisses all about that that they're
in the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:56:53):
And then obviously Role Models.

Speaker 8 (01:56:55):
Roll Models is the one that I think of the most,
like it's very good, such a huge part of the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
Okay, well, since they came up, did either of you
let me just ask you both this, what did you
guys think of the dirt? Because I know you watched
that it was is it on multiple bands or just
specifically to the crew, it's it's the it's the dramatization
on Netflix of the crew. I mean, did they need

(01:57:21):
to make more drama out of it? It's nothing but drama.
Scene with Ozzy at the pool alone, it might be enough,
Oh my god. That But but I I asked that
because a lot of people did not like that movie,
and I think that, to me fell into one of
those movies.

Speaker 4 (01:57:40):
Potley Cruz The Adventures of Ford fair Lane, at least
Vince Neil's part, not a very long.

Speaker 3 (01:57:45):
Part of the movie. Speaking of people who are a mess,
Vince Neil, I mean, my goodness, Well, if you're in
a band where somebody died but didn't then you probably
did it right. And then you wrote a song about it.

Speaker 8 (01:57:58):
Yeah, all right, So out of curiosity, if you had
to pick a kiss song to add to the honorable mentions,
which one which go with?

Speaker 4 (01:58:05):
Because of what Ac said, I I feel like they
definitely didn't fit. I love their music, but I didn't think.

Speaker 3 (01:58:11):
They fit here.

Speaker 4 (01:58:12):
So I'm probably, I mean, probably the obvious choice. Probably
just rock and roll all night shouted out loud as
a possibility, but probably rock and roll on night Detroit City.

Speaker 3 (01:58:21):
It is a good one. Lick it Up isn't on
your list?

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:58:25):
Okay, Ever, if you want to stick with role models,
I'm not picking love Gun either.

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
Ever since the role.

Speaker 8 (01:58:30):
Ever since that movie came out, that is the one
that I have decided. If I ever had to do
a draft, I'd go into Trot. Like Doctor Love is
a good song. Beth is a good song, but.

Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
They don't I Made for Loving You. You can't be
metal and have a title in your song collection like that.
Like Patients, Well, Patience is better than I was Made
for Loving You. They wasn't good, but they also have
civil War My Michelle is one of my favorite uh,

(01:59:00):
like deep tracks?

Speaker 4 (01:59:01):
Would you believe it if I told you that the
Athletic had another article written very recently about no the
baseballs that are being used in Major League Baseball stadiums this.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
Year, Which stadiums New York are other ones?

Speaker 4 (01:59:15):
Blanket commentary, No specifics, Well, they weren't being used here,
but they were being used there. More about we're noticing
something different with the flight of the baseballs.

Speaker 3 (01:59:27):
We've got data for the last.

Speaker 4 (01:59:28):
Nine years and this year of twenty twenty five through
two plus months, the ball's not going As far as
a general rule, we have enough data from the years
where we've bought the production. We've limited the amount of
flexibility there can be while still noting their handmade products.
So there's going to be some differences. But they've got

(01:59:49):
humidors in every stadium. We need to eliminate data from
two of the stadiums this year. I don't want any
data from West Sacramento and I don't want any data
from George emsteinb in Field.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
Those are not major league venues. I don't care what
you tell me about how the Mullay Baseball seasons of
stadiums this year.

Speaker 4 (02:00:06):
Basically, Major League Baseball agreed with what the Athletic had
dug up and come up with from a data standpoint,
which is public information that the ball's being used this
year for whatever reason which is still undetermined, They're not
flying as far, there's more drag on them. Balls that
are hit at this launch angle, this exit velocity, as
a general rule, are not going quite as far as
players are saying. I felt like that baseball should have

(02:00:29):
been out. I've hit it like that. I know what
it feels like. How did that ball not leave the yard?
And this is what we're always going to deal with,
Like we don't do that. I mean, I know there's
deflate gait, I get that now, But in the NFL
don't deal with this. It's different, and I mean now
I will ignow. I am happy to say that Major
League Baseball there's no belief from this study that they

(02:00:54):
have intentionally placed different baseballs without telling anybody into circulation
this year, whereas we kind of know that that is
what has happened in the past. But there's some slight
changes to the production and things of that nature. But
I said this, I don't know, six or seven weeks ago,
sure seems like scoring is down or runs are down,

(02:01:16):
and I can't quite take that from first judge close
like home runs are slightly up, but run scoring is
actually down this year.

Speaker 3 (02:01:26):
Based on this information that they have, again, Aaron Judge's
numbers are better than last year. Baseball A five is next.

Speaker 1 (02:01:33):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety. Adam Clinton and

(02:01:56):
Adam Wexler are the eight.

Speaker 4 (02:02:01):
All right, let's get right to Baseball at five, our
favorite segment of the week each and every Friday during
baseball season. When Chandler is available to join us at
five on Fridays, that's what he does, and here he is.
The A team continues wex Ac and Chandler Rome as
the Astros gets set for the Twins this evening.

Speaker 3 (02:02:16):
Continue to win series.

Speaker 4 (02:02:17):
But doctor Chandler Rome, we need a medical update from you.
Estac Pretis, Jordan Alvarez and the other two outfielders that
join jord On on the IL. Did Joe Espada update
us all on their situations?

Speaker 5 (02:02:31):
I think this is a hip of violation. I don't
think I can.

Speaker 10 (02:02:36):
He's on brand right a game or if you want
the media relations newest spend. It's against the CBA, so
can't can't be too specific. But what we have is
that eastoc Paradus is getting an MRI. I assume as
we speak, they claim that there will be results around
game time.

Speaker 5 (02:02:55):
Whether we get those results is a different story. He remained.

Speaker 10 (02:02:59):
He was on the lineup in the clubhouse today, which
means he is not on the il. Of course, that
can always change. I will be looking at Triple A
sugar Lands lineup when it comes out in a couple
hours or so, see.

Speaker 5 (02:03:11):
Who may or may not be in it, and we'll
have maybe a better idea.

Speaker 10 (02:03:15):
Chas McCormick swung off hit off a t today, You're
and Alvarez and Zach Dezenzo are not swinging bats yet.

Speaker 5 (02:03:21):
So that's about the extent that I have on those guys.

Speaker 4 (02:03:25):
The situation with ESAK and the situation with your ongoing
We didn't really get into this a whole lot with
you previously, but it seems warranted in light of the
potential for information now the manner in which information was
given on Zach Decenzo and Renelle Blanco. Do you think
the Astros will moving forward publicly respond differently to injury information.

Speaker 10 (02:03:52):
I think they're gonna have to because once you reach
rock bottom, there's nowhere really to go but up, and
that they're that Alvarez situation. I mean look like like
I mean, we can joke, we can joke all we want,
but like, I mean that that was a bad look.
It was a bad look for the team. It was
a bad look for a medical staff that, like I
refuse to believe this medical staff is like incompetent, Like
they all have degrees from whether it's athletic training degrees

(02:04:17):
or medical degrees from medicals, like these are not dumb people,
but they are being made to look as such by.

Speaker 5 (02:04:24):
The way that this team communicates things.

Speaker 10 (02:04:26):
And I think maybe this was an inflection, Maybe the
Albaiz thing was an inflection point that they realized that
they had to do something different. I will give them
credit in the in the last couple of weeks, it
has been different. They have you know, come out and
said here's what is wrong, here's the course of action
moving forward. And it's gone like that, Like I mean,

(02:04:47):
the day they put out what was wrong with Zach Dezenzo,
they said, we'll reimage him in two weeks. I don't
think we've asked a question about Zach Dezenzo since they
put that out. It it lets the story, it says,
here's what it is. Here's the timeline going forward, and
that kills the story. But the more you bring out
and say, oh, he's feeling better today, Oh he could
do this today, could do that today, just keeps the

(02:05:08):
story prolonging. And that's just how it goes.

Speaker 5 (02:05:09):
But I think they are. I would hope that they're
moving in a different direction, just.

Speaker 3 (02:05:13):
As it's full sincerity when I asked this question in
your opinion, obviously, why do you think they went about
business that way?

Speaker 5 (02:05:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (02:05:24):
You know, this is, as I've said many times, this
has spanned three field managers, this has spanned three general managers.
The general managers are all very different than one another.
The managers are all very different than one another. The
only constants in that timeframe are the training staff and
the team physicians, the media relations staff, and the owner.
I don't know, I can't. That's the only thing I

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can give you is those are the constants that have
been here throughout it. I will say this, Players and
agents sometimes get involved. There are players that are in
contract years or players that are in our years that
you know, don't want certain things out there, and those
entities that I just talked about have to you know,
acquiesce to that and have to respect that. So don't
underestimate too that there are some there's some player involvement

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here that players dictate what gets out and what doesn't
get out, what they want out and everything. But still
it had that that is that is that way across
the league, like players across the league are like that,
and somehow this is the only team that keeps running
into these issues.

Speaker 4 (02:06:23):
Something you mentioned. That's where just note to everybody the
Space Cowboys or and Reno. Uh, they've got a later
first pitch tonight. Obviously there'd be some time for a
player to make their way here to begin with, but
just something to notice. You head into the weekend against
the Twins, Uh, to the to the ball field tonight
and here say eight to nine hitters or Dubon and Rodgers,
you're playing a much better Twins team than you saw

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the first time you beat them two out of three. There,
you're playing much better baseball at eight games over five hundred,
I guess go to the top of the lineup. We
hadn't seen this before, but Jiner Diaz, do you think
the Diaz that we've been much more familiar with over
the previous seasons hitting the baseball is the one we're
now seeing over the last thirty forty games.

Speaker 5 (02:07:04):
Yeah, he's been better.

Speaker 10 (02:07:05):
I'm certainly a mesops is higher now than it's ever
been this season. It's again, it's the same approach that
you're seeing, like he's going to swing early accounts.

Speaker 5 (02:07:14):
He's going to be aggressive. That's just who he is.

Speaker 10 (02:07:16):
They haven't changed that, per se. But he's picking better pitches,
he's picking better things to swing at. He's picked. He's not,
you know, just going up there in swing mode. He's
searching for a pitch and if he gets it and
it's the first pitch of a plate appearance, he's going
to swing at it. And he's got such good bad
to ball skills and such good contact ability that he's

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more often than not going to put the bat on
the ball.

Speaker 5 (02:07:38):
So it's going well for him.

Speaker 10 (02:07:40):
It's going to be a very stark departure in the
two hole from what they had. They had the guy
that saw the most pickness per played appearance on the
team in the two hole, and now they've got the
guy that I don't have the stats in front of me,
but I would assume he sees the fewest pitches per
play appearance on the team, so it'll be a little
bit different. But I think given what Joe has to
work with, given the hitters available to him, I think

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this was probably the best course of action to go with.

Speaker 3 (02:08:05):
Talking to Channel Roam of the Athletic here on Sports
Talk seven ninety Space City Home Network, you know, by
way of just kind of summing things up, and it's
it probably is more pronounced when you consider how many
of their draft picks they hit on all those years.
Just how would you kind of put a bow on
the Forest Whitley situation, the fact that he's been now
traded away to the Rays, and all the chances and

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opportunities and just it just never seemed to come together
for him here in Houston.

Speaker 5 (02:08:33):
I mean, yeah, I think disappointing.

Speaker 10 (02:08:35):
It is probably the biggest word, because even as he's
being traded now, like it is not a stuff problem,
and Joe a. Spotta has said that, Dana Brown has
said that, like the stuff is still incredible. I just
think it really got to a point where when he
if and when he can get in another uniform where
he's just another guy, where he is not quote unquote

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Forrest Whitley the guy that you know every time. I mean,
he was in such a name in this organization. I
think when he gets somewhere where he can put a
different uniform on, kind of be anonymous, not be the
guy that is going to do a ton of interviews
every time he's in a clubhouse. Not a guy that's
going to be looked at as you know you were
once the savior. Like I think that'll help him.

Speaker 5 (02:09:19):
Out a lot.

Speaker 10 (02:09:20):
A lot of what happened to him was out of
his control. Obviously, he wasn't trying to get hurt. He
wasn't trying to get injured as many times as he did.
The drug suspension did not help things, but he came
back from that and that was just kind of a
blip in the road. But it never has a guy
needed a change of scenery more than Forest Whitley did.
And personally, like you have to be happy for him

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that he's going to get that, he's going to get
another chance with a team, with a contending team, and
with the team in the Rays that knows what they're
doing when it comes to pitching, Like if they traded
for him, like you know they've found something or they
have something within them that they think that they can.

Speaker 5 (02:09:56):
Unlock with him.

Speaker 3 (02:09:58):
Who's going to challenge the Astros in the division?

Speaker 4 (02:10:01):
You've seen everybody for roughly seventy games that obviously are
all under five hundred. Maybe based on both what they've
done and what you expect their general managers and ownership
to be willing to do. Who do you think is
the actual chaser of the Astros the rest of the way.

Speaker 10 (02:10:17):
I got yelled at for saying this on opening Day
on this station, So I guess I'll say it, like
I think you can't convince me.

Speaker 5 (02:10:24):
That the Rangers aren't going to hit.

Speaker 10 (02:10:25):
Come on, Jaylor, Like I just I look at that
lineup and like, I think they're going to hit at
some point. Well, they hit enough to get out of
the hole that they've dug themselves. I don't know they're
pitching so well right now that like that to me
would be the one that I look out for because
we say that, and like Chris Young, they're they're president

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of Baseball Operations like he is, as bold and as
aggressive as they come. Like I mean, they fired their
hitting coach like fifteen games end of the season. They
did some deadline stuff, they got schres Are a couple
of years ago, and they sense that they could go like,
that's probably the team that is going to be the
most bold. Don't discount Jerry Depoto in the Seattle Mariners.
Jerry Depoto makes more trades than anyone. I would be

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stunned if they don't go out and upgrade, try to
get a couple of bats at the deadline.

Speaker 5 (02:11:13):
But they're pitching.

Speaker 10 (02:11:15):
Like everyone's talking about the Marrors not being able to hit,
and that's been the constant refrain, But their pitching has
taken a step back. And that's why what they did
last year was so just dumbfounding, because they wasted a
once in a lifetime season from their pitching staff.

Speaker 5 (02:11:31):
You knew it was never going to be that good again,
and this year's proving that.

Speaker 10 (02:11:35):
So I would probably say the Rangers just because, like
I think Chris Young's gonna do a lot at the deadline,
and that team, the hitters on that team are much
better than they've been performing.

Speaker 5 (02:11:46):
So I would say the Rangers.

Speaker 10 (02:11:48):
But honestly, like I don't think anyone's gonna be a
legitimate challenger. I think they all have a ton of
flaws and they have all put themselves in such deep
holes that I think it's gonna be difficult for any
team to really really challenge the Asters to the point
where it becomes a real dog fight.

Speaker 3 (02:12:04):
We talked about this earlier.

Speaker 4 (02:12:05):
As we get closer to Spencer Araghetty being on the
mound or at least throwing to live hitters before maybe
he ultimately begins to rehab assignment, the timing of his
return is going to take till very close to sometime
in July, most likely, sometimes a lot closer to the deadline.
The Astros have two established arters, Lance mccullors, and question
marks currently, and Araghetti is a question mark. How do

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you think that's impacting Dana Brown's ability to really get
after trying to solidify the rotation. I guess similarly to
how he ultimately did it the deadline, the very end
of the deadline with Hussey Kakuchi.

Speaker 10 (02:12:42):
Yeah, I mean wext we're onto something with like this
deadline and last deadline feel like the feel identical, like
they're without one of their best hitters for a prolonged
period of time. Both of those best hitters had fractures
that the team didn't tell you about, So that's another wrinkle.
Rotations were ravaged by injuries and they had to decide

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do we want a left handed bat or do we
want a starter? And last year they decided to go
get a starter. I think they really like talking to
people that would know. I really think right now they
are kind of up in the air that they want
to see how the Arraghetti rehab goes.

Speaker 5 (02:13:19):
They want to see how Avier.

Speaker 10 (02:13:20):
And France and Garcia, how their rehabs progress before they
really decide wholeheartedly here's what we need to do. They
have that luxury because they're seven weeks until the deadline
and they have a four and a half game lead
in the division, Like, they don't have to act with
much urgency right now. But if it were me, this
is clearly a run prevention team. This is a team

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that has distinguished itself with an elite defense and with
a very good pitching staff. I would add to that,
I would add to what you are already good at,
and I would probably fortify the rotation if I were them. Again,
not you don't need to go get a grinky. You
don't need to go get a I don't even think
there's one of those available. But you're looking for a

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guy that can be a bridge that, you know, maybe
doesn't start a playoff game for you, but can bridge
the way to when Arraghetti is backing at full strength,
when Garcia and Javier and France are back at full strength.
I think you need a veteran guy like that that
can go out, get you into the sixth inning every
fifth day post. You know, maybe not the greatest stats

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in the world, but can come here, come to the
pitching car wash that the Astros have and turn into
something pretty decent.

Speaker 5 (02:14:32):
And I mean that's what you say Kakuchi was last year.

Speaker 10 (02:14:34):
Like I think we forget that because of how well
he came and pitched, But like that was the profile
in him last year was that, hey, this is just
a guy that was going to get them to October,
that was going to help solidify the middle of the rotation.
Then he came in and pitched like an eighth. So
I if I were them, that's what I would do.
But I'm not making the decisions, and the people that
are making the decisions are not even close to finalizing

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what their priorities are.

Speaker 4 (02:14:58):
Will you get to answer one of these two questions
on your way out, Either tell me who your team
is your pick to click at the College World Series
or measure your level of excitement that college football universities
can now directly play their players.

Speaker 10 (02:15:14):
I'll go to College World Series because I talked to
Jacob Melton about Oregon State for a while today, I
want Murray State to win the whole thing. Like I
think that'd be so cool, because Jacob and I were
actually talking about it, like and the Jacob who went
to Oregon State, who was also in the field in
this era in nil when you can, like when you
have football and basketball, when you can buy championships, and
like you know, the halves are so much better than

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the have not. It's like baseball is the one sport
where like it doesn't it's sometimes it doesn't matter, like
Jim Schassnagel spent so much oil money at Texas to
build a good roster. Billy Luci spent so much money
to build Texas A and m's roster and they couldn't
even make the tournament. Like baseball, it just it's such
a game where you got to go out in the

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field and do it.

Speaker 5 (02:15:58):
And I would love to see Murray State. I would
love that.

Speaker 10 (02:16:01):
I know l issues in the Field. I hope they
do very well. But Murray States. I'm a big Racers fan.
I hope Murray State wins.

Speaker 5 (02:16:07):
The whole thing.

Speaker 3 (02:16:08):
What's your favorite Metallica song?

Speaker 5 (02:16:12):
Is it bad that I can't name one?

Speaker 3 (02:16:13):
Come on, Chandler, now I gotta yell at you twice.

Speaker 5 (02:16:17):
I really, I really cannot name Metallica's I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:16:20):
So disappointed in you, and I'm never disappointed in you.

Speaker 5 (02:16:24):
Well, You're one of the few.

Speaker 3 (02:16:26):
It just never fails. All right, Well, great segment as always,
and go brush up on your Metallica this weekend.

Speaker 5 (02:16:32):
All right, I'll try.

Speaker 3 (02:16:33):
Thanks, all right, Chandler Roam of the Athletic Here on
Sports Talk seven nineties, we continue getting you into the weekend.

Speaker 9 (02:16:42):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety, I feel like
we should peel back the curtain and just you know,
because we can't play copyrighted music during the televised portion

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of the show.

Speaker 3 (02:17:04):
I almost want to redraft and play all the songs.

Speaker 4 (02:17:07):
Hey, it definitely would be fun. But yeah, that takes
place Friday's. Oftentimes, with seven o'clock first pitches, they bump
us off a little bit early of Space City Home
Network so they can bring some of their programming in
basses loaded and there you have an hour long pregame
show on Friday nights most of the time, including this evening,
our coverage of Astros Baseball comes your way with the

(02:17:29):
on Deck Show beginning at six comes your way next,
that is true, sorry, and then Robert and Steve I
believe are back this evening. Esch had Steve's duties over
the last three days, and he'll be back on the
normal desk for him as he's continuing to work regardless
of role. But yeah, the eighteen Friday draft, if you

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missed it, we'll have that posted for you so you
can do your voting and think about all the songs
that were missed. A bunch of you that have been
listening and sent in some suggestions. I'm sure you could
tell as you went through your suggestions, we could do
the whole thing all over again and take nine other
selections with ease, and you barely know the difference.

Speaker 3 (02:18:10):
Jeremy tweets in harsh but very fair at Chandler can't
even name Metallica's inner Sandman, made even more famous by
Mariano Rivera. That's rough, Chandler. He didn't cover the Yankees
I know, but it's kind of iconic with him. You're
a baseball fan, you know what that means.

Speaker 4 (02:18:31):
I mean, until Jeremy told us that it was made
more famous by Mario and Rivera, I had no idea.

Speaker 3 (02:18:35):
Because you thought it was Billy Wack. I had no idea.
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (02:18:38):
I hear you, Jeremy, we as you heard from Ac.
We felt the same way he played that. Uh, that's
a good question.

Speaker 3 (02:18:47):
He was closing then, well, I.

Speaker 4 (02:18:49):
Think that is true, but I'm not one hundred percent
sure why he was closing. But I don't know that
he did that there.

Speaker 3 (02:18:55):
I could be wrong. So it was an inron slash
minute made. I mean, I I'm trying to remember I can.

Speaker 4 (02:19:02):
I can tell you with a moderate amount of certainty,
Dave Smith and Joe Sambino did not have walk out
songs from the bullpen.

Speaker 3 (02:19:12):
I needed, you know what, we should just tweet him
right now. I guarantee you he would answer, Hilly. It's
very possible. I mean, hey, did you use in her?

Speaker 4 (02:19:19):
I think that he's about to get ready to participate
in the Mets Legends weekend at City Field. He's one
of the four former Astros that are participating there.

Speaker 3 (02:19:31):
Why did he go there again? What happened? I mean,
just that was it just a financial thing? Like Mike
Hampton partially?

Speaker 4 (02:19:37):
Some people actually think there was owner versus player a
little bit, because.

Speaker 3 (02:19:42):
We want to be champions and you are not going
to be a part of it.

Speaker 4 (02:19:46):
She was very correct but outspoken about how things were
done at the time. And yeah, some people think that
had a little bit to do with it. I just listen,
it is certainly was not for I don't know if
he has it anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:20:02):
Well, it's just wild to me that Drayton just didn't
spend like that. Then he did on Pettit and Clemmens,
then he didn't again, and then when he decided to
at the very end, it was on Carlos Lee.

Speaker 4 (02:20:19):
Yeah, and just so people are aware, when he left Houston,
it was because he was moved in trade and not
to New York. He's traded at Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (02:20:28):
Oh, it's right, I forgot about that. You're losing the
draft so far.

Speaker 4 (02:20:32):
No kidding, I exist that is really really, I mean,
this would be the worst way to do it. And yes,
the thought is crossing my mind, so I'll just say it.
I'll just intentionally just sit there all year. I won't
even try to win. Uh, it's just where I'm gonna
be anyway, Why bother they. I don't even have to
face the pressure of trying to do well. Losing this

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draft this week with the proper preparation, that would sting
a little bit. But I anticipate that that will happen.
I think I'm dealing with two very smart people, one
of whom was the real inspiration for this draft. And
even though we're only a couple of weeks into this
with Cole, it seems pretty obvious he's a formidable foe
in that he's been on the top of me throughout well.

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Not that people love you, that you're just doing a
good job with your selections. People you don't like If
I make good picks on what they want to eat
for breakfast, do they love me or do this? I
made some good choices that week.

Speaker 3 (02:21:28):
People loved me. Well, I'm not like I said, they
never love me. I'm just saying they like your select
they like what you did. You're like you are an
acquired taste. But everybody loves you.

Speaker 4 (02:21:38):
I mean I could have Okay, we will pretend that
we will do this draft and they'll vote, and then
eight weeks from now we'll just put out the poll
and will assign the same ones and we won't nobody
will know who picked them, because I still think we're
I don't know if we did it right.

Speaker 3 (02:21:54):
I haven't looked at the post. It's not done right
there it No, you're You're ahead seventy five, five to zero.
So four people have voted five now and he Hascrein
increased his lead to eighty.

Speaker 4 (02:22:11):
So Cole Tommy two times, his twin brother, his wife,
and your dog have voted. Hey, oh no, not your
dog because one vote was for Clinton. So Clinton's dog voted.

Speaker 3 (02:22:21):
My dogs would not vote for me because I'm mad
at them too. Right now, all right, So.

Speaker 4 (02:22:26):
A couple of things that we discussed with Chandler. One
of the things, first of all, that we did not
discuss with Chandler, we actually were talking about earlier with
these ocperettas injury situation, and we don't know the extent
of it beyond he's not playing tonight, so somebody has
to play third base. Joespotta was asked about cam Smith
and third base, and he said what we expected him to.

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He is not an option for the Astros at third
base as we are currently constructed.

Speaker 3 (02:22:51):
Well, I just not did it. That was his exact quote,
but that's what he said. But doesn't it feel like
at this point he never will be because now he's
played so much in.

Speaker 4 (02:22:59):
Rayfield for twenty twenty five totally agree? Doesn't in the
future you don't think that's I mean, their immediate future
is Isak Perettis He's He's going to be the twenty
twenty six third basement again. Yeah, based on how he's played.
I think there's almost a lock to make that happen.
He's obviously under club control. Uh so they'll have to
increase his pay rate with him under control, or they

(02:23:19):
could go even further than that and lock him up.
If they lock him up, then yes, cam Smith is
permanently the Astros right fielder. And you know, not to
get super into the minutia of playing the position. His
ability to make up ground and his closing speed, I
guess it's elite, Yeah, but you you can see things

(02:23:42):
that need significant improvement. His path to baseballs. His routes
are below average, I would say, made up for by
his extreme athletic ability and speed and then his ability
to play the balls that get by him off the wall,
even if say it's split the gap, or balls to
go over his head or balls that go into the corner.

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Guys are taking extra bases on him.

Speaker 3 (02:24:05):
Now. I think it's gotten to that point.

Speaker 4 (02:24:07):
He's not collecting the ball quickly and his release time,
his arm strength is fine, his time from getting the
baseball to throwing it in is very slow.

Speaker 3 (02:24:18):
Well, he I mean everybody in his position, not literally
his position, but his stage. That would be the case
regardless of where he was at. We'd be saying the
same things about third base, just not maybe the closing
speed and all that kind of stuff, but it would
be a litany of other issues that he's going to
have to quote grow into.

Speaker 4 (02:24:36):
Yeah, everything I just said are all things that will improve,
and each part of his game out there already has.
He deserves to be in the lineup with the roster
that they have every single day, and that's the way
they've played it. I think there's more to come from
him this year. I think we've seen improvements from him
this year, both in the field and at the plate.
He still make when he makes contact, He's hitting the
ball as hard as anybody on this team, and he's

(02:24:58):
gotten a lot of big two out hits. He brings
a little bit of energy to this team, which I
think each and every year they've lost with who they've lost,
from Springer to Korea to Bregman. Sorry, Kyle, you don't
bring that, but me Jeremy Payne at the top of
the line up in Camp Smith somewhere near the bottom.
They need that from players, and those two guys absolutely

(02:25:20):
bring that. In case you missed it will come your
way next. Remind you that we will have tickets to
Lil Wayne to give away before we close up shop.
Oh Lil Wayne, not this weekend though, coming up in
the very near future. But yeah, in case you missed
it comes your way next.

Speaker 2 (02:25:37):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 4 (02:25:43):
Wex here with the Beavis and butt Head time for
in case you missed it. I don't know who is who,
but we will get Cole in here to tell us
what we've missed out on.

Speaker 3 (02:25:50):
Well, let's start off with.

Speaker 8 (02:25:51):
This because if I'm probably not gonna text either of
you this weekend, wex ac, where are you gonna be?

Speaker 3 (02:25:56):
My father? Shut up? Have you Father's Day to all
of you.

Speaker 8 (02:26:00):
And to your family says you get to be celebrated
this weekend.

Speaker 4 (02:26:02):
In other words, in case you missed it, you got
two days left to make a plan or gift give.

Speaker 3 (02:26:07):
It's Father's Day on Sunday, and thank you.

Speaker 8 (02:26:09):
Make sure you guys do something nice for your dads,
like even take it home and maybe watching what's going
on in Oakviot US Open leaderboard scores. Sam Burns currently
is in the control at minus three. JJ Spawn had
a plus two after leading yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:26:25):
He's not minus two.

Speaker 8 (02:26:26):
Victor Holven is in the number three spot with minus one,
tied with Tristan Lawrence and Adam Scott and Ben Griffin
rout up the top five currently at an even Everyone
else going into Saturday is either at plus one plus two,
plus three plus four.

Speaker 4 (02:26:41):
Yeah, they are just the handful of golfers, essentially the
mess mentioned less than ten that are even or under
par at this major, and we kind of go through
this every year. It's sometimes it's just like this, sometimes
it's not quite this, but close. Do you do you
have any issue with them making the best players in

(02:27:04):
the world deal with rough Know they're going to score poorly,
know they're going to bomb some holes. They're going to
be double bogies, they're going to be there is going
to be inconsistent play.

Speaker 3 (02:27:17):
It's a challenge.

Speaker 4 (02:27:18):
You're the best minus twenty, minus nineteen, minus thirteen. It
doesn't have to be like that every week, and it's
not this one particular tournament more often than not is
what we're seeing.

Speaker 3 (02:27:30):
And that's fine, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (02:27:32):
There usually is a lot of pushback from the contingent
that's on the course saying, man, this was ridiculous, that this,
that or the other. And I actually haven't heard a
lot this year that I think they recognize the course
for what it was. But I'm totally fine with it.
Certainly not that it's every week. That's kind of the
best part. This is a major challenge to out play

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the course. Most weeks we're watching Scotty win by four
shots and he's at minus eighteen and other golfers are
at minus six, seven, eight, ten, fourteen. Not at the
US Open, and certainly not this weekend, oh Scotti, And
it's totally fine, not a problem.

Speaker 3 (02:28:10):
Like I saw Justin Thomas not enjoy.

Speaker 4 (02:28:13):
Himself the last two days, so Jordan's Speith not enjoy
himself certainly today it happens.

Speaker 3 (02:28:20):
It's okay, it's early. It's not early. It's early.

Speaker 4 (02:28:24):
Well, it's it's super late for them. They're done. There's
no cut line that they'll be making. He's out, all right,
what else?

Speaker 3 (02:28:32):
Speed of which?

Speaker 8 (02:28:33):
Later, Aaron Savally from Milwaukee and you're not coming to Houston.
There was rumors about him wanting a trade destination before
the deadline. Well, he got his wish, and he got
his wish to go to one of the worst teams
in the American League. A deal has been struck between
the Chicago White Socks and the Milwaukee Brewers. In return,
Andrew Vaughn is headed up to brew Town, and the

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White Socks are gonna do something. I don't know if
they're gonna keep Savale. I don't know if they're gonna
try and package him in a deal point to get
some more prospects. But he is headed on over to
the White Sox after posting a one to two record
with a four point five er in a couple of starts,
Passingason with the Brewers.

Speaker 4 (02:29:11):
Yeah, this was a trade that generated the meme machine
pretty severely. This afternoon, or when it was announced that
you went from a team just barely on the outside
of the National League playoff picture at thirty seven and
thirty three to the worst team in the American League
in an organization not recently known for anything but losing. Honestly, Yeah,

(02:29:33):
that kind of stinks. But he's been very clear, I
am a starting pitcher. I want to be a starting pitcher.
You're not going to afford me that opportunity to help
you win games as a starting pitcher, So I'm asking
you to trade me. I'm not asking you to trade
me to a better team, a comparable team. I'm asking
you to trade me to a major league team. And
they accommodated him in doing so.

Speaker 3 (02:29:54):
No reason.

Speaker 4 (02:29:54):
He's not going to make another six to eight starts
between now and the deadline and potentially get himself to
another team, potentially pitch for a If a team acquires
him after the White Sox, then he's gonna be pitching
in a playoff run intense games. May even end up
pitching in the playoffs because of this, and if he
pitches well, they will have helped him make a ton

(02:30:16):
of money as he hits free agency.

Speaker 8 (02:30:17):
Yeah, and he's probably gonna be the second best pitcher
in Chicago system.

Speaker 3 (02:30:20):
Only behind Shane Smith.

Speaker 8 (02:30:22):
Get the music ready, wax, because of we have gone
all day without talking about the Dallas Cowboys or really
anything from Dallas, and Dak Prescott listens.

Speaker 3 (02:30:31):
I like him.

Speaker 8 (02:30:32):
I do think that he is not as overrated as
others want to make it out to be. But sometimes
you live in fantasy world. And at this point, if
you believe that the Dallas Cowboys are ever going to
hoist up a Lombardi Trophy as long as Jerry Jones
is alive, well then you.

Speaker 3 (02:30:45):
Must be Dak Prescott.

Speaker 5 (02:30:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:30:47):
I want to win a championship, Prescott said when they
concluded their offseason program Thursday. The legacy, the things, whatever
comes after I finished playing will take care of itself.
But I want to win a championship, be Dan for
just my lefe, legacy, for this team, or for my
personal being. Yes, legacy will take care of itself. I
have to stay where my feet are.

Speaker 3 (02:31:08):
What do you think of that he's saying all the
right things sports.

Speaker 4 (02:31:12):
Talk seven ninety, your Southwest, your deep Southwest, tall teeth
for your Dallas sports.

Speaker 3 (02:31:19):
I mean he's saying all the things he should be saying.

Speaker 4 (02:31:21):
I mean his feet would be somewhere else if he
played somewhere else. I mean, yeah, they're currently there.

Speaker 3 (02:31:25):
Doubt it will be somewhere else if he plays poorly
this year.

Speaker 8 (02:31:29):
Just care.

Speaker 4 (02:31:31):
Yeah, not to go Dallas Cowboys crazy for probably the
fourth time this week. The Micah Parsons story is probably
a bigger one because this is just the comment that
every quarterback would probably make sure but Micah essentially saying
they're costing themselves money my not having the under contract
long term yet.

Speaker 3 (02:31:49):
But they've done this every single time. They cost themselves
money when they didn't want to sign Tac initially. Yeah,
we took Ezekiel Elliott before him, Well they signed eventually.

Speaker 4 (02:31:59):
Well no, they signed him before they should have and
thus essentially cost themselves money. Uh, Dallas Cowboys, just give
it a quick thought. Think the NFC. How many teams
have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl in
twenty twenty five or yes, this twenty twenty five season,
twenty twenty sixth Super Bowl? How many teams would you

(02:32:19):
list before you say Dallas?

Speaker 8 (02:32:20):
Are you saying, just in general on the NFC all
fifteen ahead of them? Yeah, just Dallas, Just the NFC,
because it's Dallas.

Speaker 3 (02:32:25):
All fifteen. So that's a that's a wex non answer.
What's your actual answer? Seven? Maybe six, but definitely definitely seven.
So that puts them as a borderline playoff team.

Speaker 8 (02:32:37):
I think they are a borderline playoff team, and that
means everything is going right for them, no injuries, and
the defense is better than habitized.

Speaker 3 (02:32:44):
I'm looking at the I'll take the Lions, take the Eagles,
take the Vikings. Yep, well, actually, do car over deck?
I got you, well, I thought about that as soon
as I said it. I'll take Bucks over to the Cowboys.
I'll make it easier. And the Commanders. Yeah, I will

(02:33:04):
take the Commanders to.

Speaker 4 (02:33:05):
Take every playoff team from last year and the Packers.
That's seven right out of the gate. Now you've already
kept them out of the playoffs. We'll give Coles Arizona
play from yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:33:16):
Why not.

Speaker 4 (02:33:17):
We'll take Seattle's ten win team that traded basically Gino
out for Sam Darnold in Now that's nine.

Speaker 3 (02:33:24):
Teams ahead of them, Like, do you see where we're headed?
It ain't happening. That's where his feet are though. You
got anything else for us? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (02:33:30):
Just one more can And this was kind of expected
Indianapolis Colts have officially set the date of when they
will have Jim Ursay enter the Ring of Honor, who
pass away the age of sixty six on sixty five,
on May twenty first. They will have it on the
season opener on September seventh, when the Colts begin the
twenty twenty five campaign against the Miami Dolphins, which again
was very much expected after his three daughters took over

(02:33:53):
as the majority owners of the team earlier this past week.

Speaker 4 (02:33:56):
Yeah, you open the season, you're at home. That's all
that rides. The easy option.

Speaker 3 (02:34:01):
It's when you do it. You don't wait to move further.
It just this is when they will do it.

Speaker 4 (02:34:05):
Mentioned yesterday, the Texans don't see the Colts until the
very late portion of the season. Both of their schedule
games against Daniel Jones and the Colts week twelve or beyond.

Speaker 3 (02:34:15):
I'm winning the draft now, Oh great, don't forget.

Speaker 4 (02:34:18):
You can vote on Coles picks or AC's picks for
best heavy metal songs everting, Yeah, there's a third option.

Speaker 3 (02:34:28):
I did also participate. That's right.

Speaker 4 (02:34:30):
I made three extremely strong selections from the third spot
in these.

Speaker 3 (02:34:34):
Snakes sound like right now? Hello everyone, Hello, everyone Reggie,
Reggie's looking good. Passed it to the man.

Speaker 4 (02:34:44):
Apparently this week at game three, Reggie was not looking good.

Speaker 3 (02:34:50):
You know what, when we come back, I've got the
best idea ever that I just thought of about that
whole situation and that kid next.

Speaker 2 (02:35:00):
The A team on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:35:05):
And look at you trying to will it into existence.
You know this time tomorrow night, Well, I hope I'm inside. Actually,
by this time tomorrow night, gates are at four.

Speaker 5 (02:35:20):
So hot.

Speaker 3 (02:35:20):
Just walking in there, Hey, why'd you bring an extra
shirt so I could change into it after I sweated
through the first one, just walking into the building, because
Houston's ridiculous. Are you gonna buy a shirt one in there?
I already got one earlier today. I just Concerts are fun.

Speaker 4 (02:35:35):
They are If you want to go see Lil Wayne
the Carter six North American Tour, you can if you
win tickets here or you buy them on ticketmaster dot com.
They are on sale now September eighteenth. That the Woodlands Pavilion.
We have how many pairs of tickets today?

Speaker 5 (02:35:49):
One?

Speaker 4 (02:35:49):
We have one pair left, one pair left, So make
it make it a good one seven one, three, two, five, seven,
ninety if you know the answer to this question?

Speaker 3 (02:36:01):
Hmm, what do we talk about today?

Speaker 5 (02:36:03):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (02:36:04):
Metallica?

Speaker 5 (02:36:05):
Mm?

Speaker 4 (02:36:05):
Yeah, why you are a wet blanket? I don't know
how you fashionate trivia question about that. Which of the
three people's voices you hear represents a wet blanket? Seven
one three two. I mean, come on, that's a good one. Actually,
I'm even delivering it like one. I think they're they're
going to know the answer, but I do like our listeners.
I want them to win. H I would say, uh,

(02:36:29):
I have the question how many this hour? This hour
is a trick question though? Okay, if you were listening
this hour, Chandler roame was with us, we do have
a Metallica inspired Friday eighteen draft. Metallica is playing this weekend.
Our last question asked of Chandler was what is your
favorite Metallica song? Just tell us what his answer was.

(02:36:49):
What was Chandler Rome's answer to the question, what is
your favorite Metallica song? Seven one three two one two
five seven ninety? If you're listening, you definitely know. If
you know chance, you might also know seven one three
two one two five seven ninety And a pair of
tickets to enjoy.

Speaker 3 (02:37:08):
Dwane Carter Junior will be yours. It is a better
question than the one I would have submitted, which would
be to have whoever answered correctly. How many years Forrest
Whitley was a part of the Astros organization before he
got traded.

Speaker 4 (02:37:22):
One answers nine just that two Chandler's interview with us earlier,
he reiterated what Joe Aspata had said to everybody earlier
this week when they made that decision with Brandon Walter
and they had to dfa him. It's not about his stuff.
His stuff is excellent, and it has been since probably

(02:37:43):
the last two years. There was no question last year
he was going to pitch for the Astros at some
point in time, and he did, and the same thing
happened this year.

Speaker 3 (02:37:51):
Had he not been hurt.

Speaker 4 (02:37:52):
When he was hurt, he would have pitched a whole
lot more for the Astros, But multiple instances with a
minor knee injury prevented more opportunities, and the timing of
when he was now healthy again and getting those opportunities well, one,
it coincided with Tampa destroying Astros pitching in Tampa, and
then it coincided with Tampa destroying Astros bullpen pitching in Houston,

(02:38:12):
and he was out of options and they really didn't
have much of another choice to make, and so he
was the odd man out. I think he will do
some very good things, and I do think he will
last at least the full season on their roster with
Tampa over the next three months.

Speaker 3 (02:38:27):
All Right, Game four of the NBA Finals is tonight
yep Pacers at home with a two to one lead.
Should the Pacers pull this off, and it's a sizeable upset,
I think, just given what the thunder did during the
regular season, don't you think the kid that gave us

(02:38:48):
one of the best clips in YouTube history before it
was even YouTube. I don't even know if YouTube even
existed when this happened, should be a part of the
celebration somehow, since he's a diehard Pacers fan and I
believe went to Ball State where he delivered the most
epic sports cast ever. What did it sound like? Well,

(02:39:09):
I'm waiting for call to play it.

Speaker 4 (02:39:13):
There's some conspiracy theorists about tonight's game. What would be
best for the NBA in light of their already bad
situation because their ratings are down?

Speaker 3 (02:39:20):
What would be best for them if the Lakers could
somehow insert themselves.

Speaker 4 (02:39:24):
In circumstances as they are. It's just Pacers Thunder, it's
two games to one Pacers League.

Speaker 3 (02:39:28):
What would they like?

Speaker 4 (02:39:30):
Okay, So, as one person posted the fix is in today,
I know who's there. Well, not only that, they went
so far as to here's the record with all three
of the officials that are there, and here's the Thunders
record with all three of official those officials there.

Speaker 5 (02:39:46):
Not that.

Speaker 4 (02:39:47):
Yeah, they're they're sample size, I'm sure is enormous, and
even noted it. I'm sure there's no other circumstances like, well,
when do you just just a thought the best, the
so called best NBA officials work the playoffs and work
the best games during the season. Like, you've got a
big Thursday night game on whatever network you're on, and
it's two of the best teams, you probably give them

(02:40:07):
two of the best officials. Well that also, like I said,
that's probably two of the best teams. So are you
are you gonna win all the games against the best teams?

Speaker 5 (02:40:13):
Well?

Speaker 3 (02:40:13):
Probably not, they're the best teams.

Speaker 4 (02:40:15):
Oh so we lost and this particular official was there
and he only officiates our games when we play really
good teams.

Speaker 3 (02:40:21):
I wonder what our record will be like. You're bearing
the lead, if you say it, if you hired better officials,
you wouldn't have people doing this. They have too much
time on their hands.

Speaker 4 (02:40:31):
I don't think they're the fixes and in because Josh
and Sean are working tonight's game.

Speaker 3 (02:40:36):
Who's the third official, Scott exactly? I rest nonsense. Well
he's a bad official.

Speaker 4 (02:40:43):
They're favored by almost a touchdown, but it's the officials
that will get them to win.

Speaker 3 (02:40:49):
Seven points is nothing in the NBA. What's the breaking news?
You're leading by a lot? Now, how did that happen?
I don't know, but it's forty three one twenty six
in favor of you. Well that's what I had when
I looked the last time. Well, there's more votes that
are coming in for you, buddy. I knew I was
gonna win this. Yeah, no, you're not get over it.

(02:41:09):
No happy, No, happy Father's Day for you. I hope
you have a terrible time at the concert. That's that's awful. Well,
the concert's not on Father's Day, all right, Astros sweep
this weekend? Yeah, I mean we can continue our tradition.

Speaker 4 (02:41:22):
We began earlier this week making predictions on every outcome
of every of the one hundred and sixty two baseball games.
Last night, none of us got it right exact to
the score that we did. Predict an Astros victory. I
will predict an Astro's victory again tonight. We'll put him up,
but we'll go nine to six Astros win. How many
hits does Carlos Korea have in this series four? I'll

(02:41:45):
take the under, me too, taking the under all right,
that is going to do it. Appreciate you guys listening
all week long. We've got the Astros on Deck Show
with Dan Matthews. It's coming up next as the Astros
and the Twins get the first of three underway. Have
a great Father's Day weekend. We'll talk to you guys
again on Monday

Speaker 2 (02:42:06):
The AG on Sports Talk seven ninety
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