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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
We appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
And we're ready to talk some golf and some more
Spurs discussion, some cowboys talk, and the NBA playoffs. I
want to get into that because the ratings are down
and Adam Silver talked about that the other night. We
were talking a little bit earlier, and I'm gonna get
to the US Open update here in just a second,
but we were talking a little bit earlier in the
show about what the Spurs may do and the fact
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that I would imagine they're just fielding calls until they find.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
A deal that they like.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
If you believe Bill Simmons from The Ringer, the Spurs
and the Sons have already worked out a deal for Durant.
I'm not sure that that's accurate or not, but Bill
Simmons seems to think it is, so he tweeted about it.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So here's my kind of nutshell on this when it
comes to the Harper situation, in the Philadelphia situation. If
I'm going to reiterate this. If Devin Vassel is on
this team, there is no room for Dylan Harper that
I can find, unless you think that Dylan Harper is
going to play or Vassel or Fox or Castle is
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going to play primarily at forward. But if you do
draft Harper because Vasell is part of a trade, you
basically have three combo guards with Fox, Castle and Harper.
All three of them can play the point, all three
of them can play the two, and all three of
them when you go small, can play together. And I
think that would be a really dynamic backcourt and more
than likely those three players would take up about ninety
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minutes of the ninety six minutes that are in a
game between play the point guard and the two guard. Now,
I would like to see the Spurs draft a big
with that fourteenth pick, if they are able to keep
it or whatever they do in the second round. Now,
I think Malawatch will probably be gone by fourteen, and
so will Queen. But I would like to see somebody
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a big get drafted. And I think Charles Bassie can
be an out of quid backup. There's others that can
probably fill that role to in free agency. Now, I
would love for it to be Steven Adams if you
want to offer him a contract as a free agent
once you get everything else done, provided that the cap
works out and he wants to play for ten or
twelve million dollars, that would be a great starting center
with this team. So either if you can't draft, then yeah,
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I want to go after Adams or somebody like him.
And let's say that if you do trade Visel, it
is probably going to be for Kevin Durant or something
to do with the Durant deal. So potentially you could
have a lineup, a starting lineup of Wimby, Durant, Castle,
Fox in a big that big whether it's Steven Adams
or or Mallowatch is probably only or somebody some rookie
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or a good center basically that's going to get weak
side rebounds.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So four of those five starters.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Wemby, Durant, Castle, and Fox would likely play about thirty
minutes a game on the average throughout the regular season.
Foul trouble, load management, time restrictions, things like that will
predicate game to game, but on the average, they're probably
going to try to play him about thirty minutes a game.
And whoever that starting center is whether it's a rookie
or a veteran like Adams, probably in the twenty to
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twenty five range, because there's gonna be times when you
go small and play without a beg and you're gonna
have Wemby and Durant on the floor. Again, provided that
you were to draft for that, you've got a six
man bench that I think you could rotate in with Keldon, Johnson, Barnes, Champagne, Harper,
Bassie and Sohan, and those six guys would likely take
up about one hundred and twenty minutes of the game,
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and your starters would take up about one hundred and forty.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Now, I know you want just a person whose only role.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Is to come in and play twelve minutes at point
guard and back up whoever the point guard is. But
with this particular roster, if you have Castle and Fox
and Harper on the court, or even if you don't
have Harper and you have a Besell because you didn't
go after Durant, you still have three guys that can
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play the one or the two, not necessarily eve Sell
that much. You have enough people out there to take
up the bulk of the minutes at both of those positions.
And I think that's one of the reasons why what
the Spurs do is going to be really interesting because
there's so many different options. But a starting lineup of Fox, Castle, Durant,
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Wimby and whoever plays the big that, to me is
a really a good team that can win fifty five
plus games going into next season.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Again, it's even in the Yannis perspective. Do I want
Jannis Antetokumpo, Yes, would love to have Yiannis tremendous talent.
Do I want Kevin Durant, Yes, tremendous talent. I'm not
going to say no to a two future Hall of Famers,
but I hesitate on it because what is it going
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to cost me? Not just money wise, what is it
going to cost me in personnel?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Right? Am I having to give up three to four players? No,
just to get one?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We're not doing that either because to me, because the
money has to match.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It must be within ten percent.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So and the Uran's making fifty four million and the
Spurs highest paid player is a sell at twenty eighth. Right,
technically it's Deer and Fox. Yeah, trade, but you're not
trading me. Yeah, but you're just getting ready. Well, he's
getting ready to get maxed out anyway, So you're not
going to trade him anyway. Uh, and so so Foxes
is not amongst those who is are is going to
get traded.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I think we had a hole in one end earlier
in the day we did that's a replay. So yeah, yeah, But.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I think that the trade scenario that I think would
work for the Spurs is if you only have to
give up one player and a whole bunch of picks
and another team comes in to make up the difference
with the player contracts.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
To me, that's what makes the most.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So if the Spurs are giving up you know, v
Sell and draft picks for example. And I don't want
me to pick on Devon. I would love for him
to be a Spur for life. But when it comes
to making these trades that all these guys are saying
are possibilities, and and the Spurs have to give up
the a portion or all of fifty four million dollars
in contract money, he's the only one that makes that work,
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that makes the math work.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, I just I don't see that scenario unless it's
within a three or fourteen trade. I mean, Devin Vassell
and I love Devin Bassell, but they already have that
particular player, it's Devin Booker. They don't need I mean
you yeah, what I both agree, they don't need another.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
And they have They already have two wings and Bradley
Beal and the Cell. They're basically the same. You can
argue who's better, but.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You can I love Devin ll Yeah it's better.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, but you can argue that Bill and Vassell are
the same player too, is probably younger and better.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, And you know, because he played in Purgatory.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
So he's here with brainwash there, so he's he hasn't
unlearned what he should have never learned there exactly. So anyway,
I think that there's so many different scenarios that could
take place, and over the next two weeks we're gonna
find out what they are because all these dominoes are
going to start to fall pretty soon.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I think what makes it a little bit easier, at
least for me on the perspective of if they decide
to just stand pat and draft Dylan Harper, is because
we kind of got the the indication, at least from
Chris Paul that he kind of wants to go back
to the West coast.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Or be closer to the home.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And as much as I loved Chris Paul being here,
the leadership and everything, it's one less position we don't
have to worry about because the the unfortunate part with
Chris Paul being here this year is when they got
deeron Fox is hey, now I got too legit starting
number ones, and we saw what happened when you had uh,
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deeron Fox and Chris Paul on the floor at the
same time. Talent wise, it's great, but it's like, I
would really like Deer and Fox to be the leader of.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Deer and Fox is the point guard. And if Castle
starts and they bring us, say Harper off the bench,
or they bring Vassel off the bench, or they bring
Castle when Fox goes to the bench, then one of
the other guys can be the point guard. Yeah, and
that's how the rotation. When Fox is on the floor,
he's the point guard.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
When he's not on the floor, it's point guard by committee.
I don't think you're gonna see very many plays where
Fox is not the point guard when he's on the floor.
But the lineup opportunities and mismatches and switching and all
the options that Mitch Johnson's going to have are going
to be pretty pretty special. All right, Let's turn our
attention to the US Open, where JJ Spahn just made
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a birdie to get back to three under. Thomas Dietrie
and Sam Burns are also at three. The d Tree
and Spawn still have holes to play, so they could
increase or take the lead, or they could go further back.
Tristan Lawrence has got about a seven footer on eighteen,
which is his night toll of the day, and if
he misses, he's going to make double and be back
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to minus back to even.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
So we'll see how he is able to.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
At one point he was six under par and now
he has a putt that's gonna put him at minus
one or even if he whether he makes it or
misses it. So he's he's given up a lot of
shots on the back nine.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I think he actually made it because is he threw nine?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Now he's uh Lawrence Lawrence Lawrence, Yeah, a TV maybe
a little bit behind it.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
They just went to break. He's a he's at to
wonder JJ through. Let's see he.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Started on the hand, so it should say just says
eleven with the asterisk next to it.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay, so he's whatever putt he's got about to uh
to putt h. I don't know if he made it
or not. We'll get we'll get an update on that
in a second. Here's an interesting name that's in contention,
because I think anybody that's five over a better still.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Has a chance. Scotti Scheffler, and he is in the mix.
But Phil Mickelson is only plus four.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
He's right with Scotty. He is.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I just oh man, your guy John Rahm, you know
plus four. Xander looked like he was gonna he was
gonna shut me up. And you know, he was playing well,
but I think at one point he was like, what.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Too close to Evan?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
And he shot two over today he's into contention with
Phil as well.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Let me say this about Phil. I've talked about this before.
To me, Phil Micholson is the great American tragedy, and
it all stems from his competition addiction or his gambling addiction,
however you want to look at it. He has made
a kind of a fool out of himself with the
astronomical amounts of money he's lost to the wrong people.
And I don't think the rumors are wrong, and the
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stories are wrong that he needed to live money.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
To pay off his gambling debts. He has lived a
charmed life.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
He is one of these guys that takes chances on
the golf course and takes chances off the golf course,
and he always comes out smelling like a rose.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
But his.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Victory all towards the PGA Tour has cost him so much,
and it's cost the golf world so much as what too.
He was demanding that players get paid for showing up,
which he thought the star player should. He started off
really well on PGA Tour Champions when he turned fifty
a couple of years ago and won a couple of events.
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There's no question I love Trevor Emmlman on CBS, but
Phil Micholson if he wanted the job, had he not
done what he had done, would be the lead commentator
for CBS in the booth with Jim Nance, and he
would have been television gold and he would have been
the Ryder.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Cup captain this year.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Nothing against Kegan Bradley, but Phil Micholson in New York
at Bethpage would have been the Rider Cup captain. And
it all stems from the fact that he could not
make a deal with J Monahan that suited him, or
wouldn't have a conversation with J.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Monahan.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And he didn't like the way that the PGA Tour
basically ran a monopoly on golf. And I'm sure he
got enough money to do whatever he needed to do.
But you don't ever see the Phil Micholson smile anymore.
Even when he makes a putty, he just kind of
waves the gallery and the clap is very applotting. He
won the PGA Championship in twenty twenty one. Kiawa Island
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was electric when he won that championship. Now he makes
a twenty foot for Birdie and you get the polight
golf clap and he waves his hat and it's like
he's just any other random player. His star has been
has been dulled and diminished, and it's tragic, and it's
all self induced.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And I never never was not a Phil fan.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
When Tiger wasn't playing, I wanted Phil to win, and
Phil was great for the game of golf, but he
is He has become a basically a tragic person with
and I'm and I'm sure still is a charm life
and has all the money he needs and has a
great family in California, but it could have been so
much better if he hadn't gone the road that he had.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, you know, you take enough lucky shots every now
and then and eventually it's gonna come catch up with you.
And that's uh, that's kind of how it is for
philm Now. You know, he took too many, too many
risk and gambles, which you know, for for him, he's
gonna bet on himself.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
You know, Hey, I'm Phil Mickelson.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I know I can do this, and maybe nine times
out of ten he does. But it's those one out
of tens that kept popping.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But it's not the golf because his golf game was
always good. It was the fact that I'm gonna bet
one hundred thousand dollars on the Giants and the Jets
and then I lost in so Monday night, I'm gonna
double down. And you just keep doing that as much
as you can control what you do on the golf
course because you're really good. It doesn't matter how good
of a gambler you are. At some point, the quarterback's
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going to fall down and fumble when you least expect. Yep,
when I think I've told this story before when I
was when I was in high school, I think there
was a contest that the flagship station for the OU
network ran and you could predict the score of OU
and whoever their opponent was, and OSU and whoever their
opponent was, and if you got the score exactly right,
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you won whatever was in the jackpot. And it was
fifty bucks a week, and it was already like in
week eight or nine, so there was say four hundred
four and fifty dollars the pool because nobody had predicted
an exact score. So in this I think was either
eighty or eighty one. Because it was the Nebraska the
Irving Friar Rosier Turner guilt team, and so I put
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in I said, you sent in a postcard with your
name on it, and I put both. I put whatever
OU was playing, but on the OU game, I put
Nebraska forty nine, Oklahoma State ten. And the tiebreaker was
leading rusher how many yards? And I put Micros year
to forty eight.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
So the final score, well, lit'sten the Micros Yeer rush
for two fifty one. So I had the tiebreaker down
with I was in within three yards with about thirty
forty seconds to go in the game. Nebraska scores to
make it forty eight to ten, and they missed the
extra point. They had a fourth team kicker that they
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gave a chance to kick the extra point and he missed,
and I didn't win my four hun and fifty bucks. Now,
I didn't have any action on the line. I wasn't betting.
It was just a lottery pool that if you you know,
sweepstakes or whatever contest, and so there was no gambling involved.
But that's that's what you happen when you're when you're
betting football or you're betting sports, somebody clanks a free throw,
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or John tay Porter decides to throw off his.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Stats or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You're always going to have something weird happen when you're
on a losing streak. And Phil got into way too
many losing streaks for big time cash because he couldn't
bet a hundred bucks. He had to bet have several
zeros behind that. If you have a problem one eight
hundred gambles, well he I don't think he has a
gambling problem. I think he has a competition problem because
he thinks he can do it all because it's him
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he can fix it on the golf course, So why
can't I manipulate what happens on the football field that
I have nothing to do with. And Phil's got a
birdie putt right now on fourteen that he could get
even closer, and let's see, ye he missed at wide left,
so he'll tap in. He'll stay plus four, all right.
The Dallas Cowboys are bragging a little bit. Should they
be bragging? We'll talk some cowboys stuff. Next, it's the
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Andy Everage Show.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
On the ticket