May 9, 2025 • 10 mins
Draymond Green reacts to another technical foul but misses the point of the criticism surrounding him as a player.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Last night and the Warriors lost to Minnesota. Draymond Green
became Draymond Green again when he threw an elbow in
the direction and landed on nas Reed because it was
after the play it occurred, and actually was nos Reed
that fouled him first, yep, and they called the foul.
As he was getting out of the scrum. He threw
(00:24):
the elbow and landed one in the jaw area, and
it was determined that was a technical foul and not
a flagrant because it happened after the play happened. So
I like Draymond Green, and I like the fact that
he plays with the emotion that he plays with, and
I think he plays with a lot of passion. But
he's one of those guys that can't He always has
(00:45):
to have the last word, and the last word is
what usually gets him teed up. He is never going
to stop yelling at the referees. He is never going
to not play with that enthusiasm. He is probably going
to defend his players to the degree if that means
choking out Rudy Gobert, He's probably going to do it again.
I don't like those parts of his game, but I
(01:07):
like the passion that he plays with, and I like
the energy he plays with, and he's been an integral
part of the Warrior's success. But after the game was over,
this is what Draymond Green had to say about what
happened in the game.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Look like the angry black man. I'm not an angry
black man. I'm a very successful, educated black man with
a great family, and I'm great at basketball. I'm great
at what I do. To the agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
To try to keep making me look like an angry
black man is crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm sick of it. Is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Okay, I don't think you're angry. I don't think you're
an angry black man. Let's get past that. I think
what you are is you're a hard, sometimes dirty, and
cheap shot player. And I don't care how you look
at it. Go look at the video. If somebody did
that to you, you would expect them to get a
technical foul or get kicked out of the game or both.
(01:57):
And if you look at almost everything that every has
ever happened to get Draymond Green suspended or kicked out
of the game, or our teed up or a flagrant foul,
if somebody had done that to you, you would have
expected the same result that you got in ninety nine
point nine percent of the time. If somebody hits Draymond
Green at the same way that he hits them, that's
(02:20):
going to be called the exact same way. Here's Brian
Windhorst reacting to what Draymond had to say.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
He's got five technicals and two flagrants in nine playoff games.
Those he probably should have more technicals. It was a
restraint showed by the referees. By the way, that's a
big complaint across the league that Draymond gets away with
stuff after he commits a flagrant, and after he commits
a technical, and sometimes even after he gets five fouls.
(02:51):
There's a belief that Draymond actually gets too much leeway.
This is not my word, this is what people tell me.
They say he gets away with too much because the
referees don't want to be the one who rejects him
or calls a flagrant on our second flagrant on him,
because they know that there's going to be an onslaught.
That's a perception of opponents out there, not necessarily my mind.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
All right, I don't I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I think Draymond Green, after he gets the technical foul,
he's told to shut up, usually gets the last word
in again, and the officials have restraint. You know why
the officials have restraint because they know Draymond Green is
somebody that people are paying to watch, just like Steph Curry,
just like Butler, just like Buddy Healed and in the
past Klay Thompson and others that have been on that team.
(03:36):
And I think that since the beginning of the NBA,
the commissioners of the NBA have told their officials, listen,
we're charging a lot of money for people to watch
people play. And if a player has if a star
player has a fifth foul, they got to really do
something crazy to get the sixth one.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And most of the time you see.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
A lot of players in foul trouble with four or
five minutes to go in the game and they're still
contact and they'll get that six out, and I think
the officials do use restraint. That doesn't mean they're not
going to kick him out if he continues to do it.
That doesn't mean he's going to get the second t
that gets the automatic ejection. And it doesn't mean that
Adam Silver is going to come down hard with him
at some point on a suspension if his violence gets
(04:16):
too far out of hand. But there are a lot
of players in the past that play very similar or
exactly alike what Draymond Green did, And I, you know,
I think Bill Ambier was that. I always thought Bill
Lambier I didn't get a lot to hear a lot
of his trash talk on the court, but I heard
his trash talk is the when he was the coach
(04:37):
of the New York Liberty, and he was hilarious on
the sideline. There was there was a player he had
I think it was Karen Braxton who had I think
it was her. But this particular player had never set
a legal screen in her life and usually would get
called for two or three offensive files a game. And
they're playing at the the AT and T Center, Frost
being center at the time, and as they I'm into
(05:00):
the front court first play of the game, first play
of the game, she sets the screen and moves on
it and they boom offensive foul either way, And Lambier's
like at half court and says, Oh, it wouldn't be
a WNBA game involving the Liberty unless Karen Braxton got
called for an offensive foul. I'm shocked and set it
out loud and right in the ear of the official
num fourteen seconds into the game. Technical but that, but
(05:24):
the way he said it, and the attitude that he
had and the f bombs that accompanied what.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I just said made it hilarious.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And Mahorne played similarly, and Oakley played similarly, and at
times Dennis Rodman played that way. They're going to junk
up the game a little bit so that you come
down to their level, and sometimes it goes to he
goes too far. But if the Warriors and Steve Kerr
didn't like it, he'd have been traded a long time ago.
And I don't think Dylan Brooks plays unsimilarly to Draymond Green.
(05:56):
He's just not as charismatic about it as Draymond is.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Dylan Brooks is more.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
He's going to try to get under that particular player's skin.
He doesn't, necessarily, at least to me, go after referees.
Draymond Green flat out, you know, hey, I've just committed
so many atrocities. How dare you call another atrocity on me?
You know, the old boy who cried Wolf's story. That's
(06:23):
the biggest thing with me with Draymond, I understand. I
don't have a problem with you want to be physical,
you want to kind of tiptoe the line. You want to, hey,
get again, give you a little chicken wing to let
you know, hey, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's all fine and dandy because all.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
The players do it. But when you go step over
the line of what Draymond purposefully does. I mean, I've
seen video of back in the day with Carl Malone
and Dennis Rodman where they were being physical with each other,
but they both knew that's.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
How we were gonna play.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But you never saw either one of them sit there
and try to go over the line. The problem with
Draymond Green is he goes over a.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Lily that it keeps pushing the line too. That's what
we have to get rid of.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
And this whole notion of of them, like a lot
of the national pundits saying, well, he clearly has anger
management issue.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I don't think he does. I don't think he don't
think it's his way of playing basketball. I don't think
he would ever do that in public. I don't think
he would ever start a fight with somebody in public.
I just don't think he would. Now somebody came after him,
he's gonna he's gonna defend himself and and and fight
back to to some extent. But I don't think that's
toe Drake. I don't think I think Draymond Green is
(07:37):
playing the role that he can that can keep him
in the league.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
For for as long as it can.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I think we we've seen and heard enough at times
from Steve Kerr and I mean you could see it
from last night they had they actually took him out
of the game because he was so animated, and Steph
Curry is like, dude, calm down, man, we need like
you got your point across. You got your point across.
You didn't like it, Go cool.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Law. Here's the other thing too.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think this happens with coaches when they're talking to players,
players when they're talking to coaches and players and referees
when they're communicating with each other. When you're in an
NBA building, Just go to the next NBA game that
you go to and set next to the person, and
if you talk in a normal voice, I assure you
you can't hear each other. So you have to scream
to be able to have a conversation with somebody that's
(08:27):
near you when it comes to a game. And so
when you get that animated because you're yelling so loudly,
it comes across.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
As you're angry.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And you may be angry, and you may not be angry,
but that's the way it's perceived. Because you can't talk
in hush tones in a building with twenty thousand people
and it's screaming at the top of their lungs. You
have to be able to amplify your message over that,
and sometimes you're gonna get overly animated than you normally would.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I get that you're trying to somewhat make it a
make an argument case for Draymond. But if you go
look at the video, just go look at all the
videos of whenever he gets a.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Technical, he deserves every technol he's ever gotten.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And every because there there is a an actiful way
to go about arguing your point he's got, he deserves
every technical he's ever gotten, and he's probably deserved more
technical technicals than.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
He has gotten.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, but again it there is a way that
you can go argue your point. And for the most part,
a referee, if you thought that they made a bad
call or a tech. You're gonna be able to pay
ten fifteen seconds voice your opinion as long as you're
not overstepping, and then the referee will say, all right,
that's enough, I get it, that's enough.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Stop. Yeah, but if.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
You continue to poke and poke and poke, that's where
Draymond starts to go over the line again, kicking guys
in the nuts, punching guys, repeatedly, stepping on guy's chest,
choke holding guys.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
That's a loti player. Yes you are.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You're a dirty player, but that's what's kept you in
the league for as long as it is because you're
the enforcer for the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
You can be an enforcer, but you can you don't
have to go over the line. You're the hockey Bowen
to this day, love Bruce Bowen. Bruce Bowen was a
dirty player scissor kicking Wally Zerbiak in the face.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
But you never saw Bruce Bowen go over the line
and start and starting.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
To meeting and start arguing with referees.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, Bruce, Bruce Boonen's not throwing punches, he's not kicking
dudes in the nuts. And Draymond's been suspended and find
appropriately almost every time that that's happened, and there is
no root for that. But I do think that Draymond
Green knows he's got to play with an edge to
be able to stay in the league for as long
as he has and for a little bit longer before retirement.
(10:47):
All Right, we've got some celebrity news and we'll talk
about the NCAA sixteen game proposal. It's all coming up
on the Andy Everage Show. On the Ticket
Last night and the Warriors lost to Minnesota. Draymond Green
became Draymond Green again when he threw an elbow in
the direction and landed on nas Reed because it was
after the play it occurred, and actually was nos Reed
that fouled him first, yep, and they called the foul.
As he was getting out of the scrum. He threw
(00:24):
the elbow and landed one in the jaw area, and
it was determined that was a technical foul and not
a flagrant because it happened after the play happened. So
I like Draymond Green, and I like the fact that
he plays with the emotion that he plays with, and
I think he plays with a lot of passion. But
he's one of those guys that can't He always has
(00:45):
to have the last word, and the last word is
what usually gets him teed up. He is never going
to stop yelling at the referees. He is never going
to not play with that enthusiasm. He is probably going
to defend his players to the degree if that means
choking out Rudy Gobert, He's probably going to do it again.
I don't like those parts of his game, but I
(01:07):
like the passion that he plays with, and I like
the energy he plays with, and he's been an integral
part of the Warrior's success. But after the game was over,
this is what Draymond Green had to say about what
happened in the game.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Look like the angry black man. I'm not an angry
black man. I'm a very successful, educated black man with
a great family, and I'm great at basketball. I'm great
at what I do. To the agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
To try to keep making me look like an angry
black man is crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm sick of it. Is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Okay, I don't think you're angry. I don't think you're
an angry black man. Let's get past that. I think
what you are is you're a hard, sometimes dirty, and
cheap shot player. And I don't care how you look
at it. Go look at the video. If somebody did
that to you, you would expect them to get a
technical foul or get kicked out of the game or both.
(01:57):
And if you look at almost everything that every has
ever happened to get Draymond Green suspended or kicked out
of the game, or our teed up or a flagrant foul,
if somebody had done that to you, you would have
expected the same result that you got in ninety nine
point nine percent of the time. If somebody hits Draymond
Green at the same way that he hits them, that's
(02:20):
going to be called the exact same way. Here's Brian
Windhorst reacting to what Draymond had to say.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
He's got five technicals and two flagrants in nine playoff games.
Those he probably should have more technicals. It was a
restraint showed by the referees. By the way, that's a
big complaint across the league that Draymond gets away with
stuff after he commits a flagrant, and after he commits
a technical, and sometimes even after he gets five fouls.
(02:51):
There's a belief that Draymond actually gets too much leeway.
This is not my word, this is what people tell me.
They say he gets away with too much because the
referees don't want to be the one who rejects him
or calls a flagrant on our second flagrant on him,
because they know that there's going to be an onslaught.
That's a perception of opponents out there, not necessarily my mind.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
All right, I don't I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I think Draymond Green, after he gets the technical foul,
he's told to shut up, usually gets the last word
in again, and the officials have restraint. You know why
the officials have restraint because they know Draymond Green is
somebody that people are paying to watch, just like Steph Curry,
just like Butler, just like Buddy Healed and in the
past Klay Thompson and others that have been on that team.
(03:36):
And I think that since the beginning of the NBA,
the commissioners of the NBA have told their officials, listen,
we're charging a lot of money for people to watch
people play. And if a player has if a star
player has a fifth foul, they got to really do
something crazy to get the sixth one.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And most of the time you see.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
A lot of players in foul trouble with four or
five minutes to go in the game and they're still
contact and they'll get that six out, and I think
the officials do use restraint. That doesn't mean they're not
going to kick him out if he continues to do it.
That doesn't mean he's going to get the second t
that gets the automatic ejection. And it doesn't mean that
Adam Silver is going to come down hard with him
at some point on a suspension if his violence gets
(04:16):
too far out of hand. But there are a lot
of players in the past that play very similar or
exactly alike what Draymond Green did, And I, you know,
I think Bill Ambier was that. I always thought Bill
Lambier I didn't get a lot to hear a lot
of his trash talk on the court, but I heard
his trash talk is the when he was the coach
(04:37):
of the New York Liberty, and he was hilarious on
the sideline. There was there was a player he had
I think it was Karen Braxton who had I think
it was her. But this particular player had never set
a legal screen in her life and usually would get
called for two or three offensive files a game. And
they're playing at the the AT and T Center, Frost
being center at the time, and as they I'm into
(05:00):
the front court first play of the game, first play
of the game, she sets the screen and moves on
it and they boom offensive foul either way, And Lambier's
like at half court and says, Oh, it wouldn't be
a WNBA game involving the Liberty unless Karen Braxton got
called for an offensive foul. I'm shocked and set it
out loud and right in the ear of the official
num fourteen seconds into the game. Technical but that, but
(05:24):
the way he said it, and the attitude that he
had and the f bombs that accompanied what.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I just said made it hilarious.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And Mahorne played similarly, and Oakley played similarly, and at
times Dennis Rodman played that way. They're going to junk
up the game a little bit so that you come
down to their level, and sometimes it goes to he
goes too far. But if the Warriors and Steve Kerr
didn't like it, he'd have been traded a long time ago.
And I don't think Dylan Brooks plays unsimilarly to Draymond Green.
(05:56):
He's just not as charismatic about it as Draymond is.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Dylan Brooks is more.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
He's going to try to get under that particular player's skin.
He doesn't, necessarily, at least to me, go after referees.
Draymond Green flat out, you know, hey, I've just committed
so many atrocities. How dare you call another atrocity on me?
You know, the old boy who cried Wolf's story. That's
(06:23):
the biggest thing with me with Draymond, I understand. I
don't have a problem with you want to be physical,
you want to kind of tiptoe the line. You want to, hey,
get again, give you a little chicken wing to let
you know, hey, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's all fine and dandy because all.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
The players do it. But when you go step over
the line of what Draymond purposefully does. I mean, I've
seen video of back in the day with Carl Malone
and Dennis Rodman where they were being physical with each other,
but they both knew that's.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
How we were gonna play.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But you never saw either one of them sit there
and try to go over the line. The problem with
Draymond Green is he goes over a.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Lily that it keeps pushing the line too. That's what
we have to get rid of.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
And this whole notion of of them, like a lot
of the national pundits saying, well, he clearly has anger
management issue.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I don't think he does. I don't think he don't
think it's his way of playing basketball. I don't think
he would ever do that in public. I don't think
he would ever start a fight with somebody in public.
I just don't think he would. Now somebody came after him,
he's gonna he's gonna defend himself and and and fight
back to to some extent. But I don't think that's
toe Drake. I don't think I think Draymond Green is
(07:37):
playing the role that he can that can keep him
in the league.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
For for as long as it can.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I think we we've seen and heard enough at times
from Steve Kerr and I mean you could see it
from last night they had they actually took him out
of the game because he was so animated, and Steph
Curry is like, dude, calm down, man, we need like
you got your point across. You got your point across.
You didn't like it, Go cool.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Law. Here's the other thing too.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think this happens with coaches when they're talking to players,
players when they're talking to coaches and players and referees
when they're communicating with each other. When you're in an
NBA building, Just go to the next NBA game that
you go to and set next to the person, and
if you talk in a normal voice, I assure you
you can't hear each other. So you have to scream
to be able to have a conversation with somebody that's
(08:27):
near you when it comes to a game. And so
when you get that animated because you're yelling so loudly,
it comes across.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
As you're angry.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And you may be angry, and you may not be angry,
but that's the way it's perceived. Because you can't talk
in hush tones in a building with twenty thousand people
and it's screaming at the top of their lungs. You
have to be able to amplify your message over that,
and sometimes you're gonna get overly animated than you normally would.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I get that you're trying to somewhat make it a
make an argument case for Draymond. But if you go
look at the video, just go look at all the
videos of whenever he gets a.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Technical, he deserves every technol he's ever gotten.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And every because there there is a an actiful way
to go about arguing your point he's got, he deserves
every technical he's ever gotten, and he's probably deserved more
technical technicals than.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
He has gotten.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, but again it there is a way that
you can go argue your point. And for the most part,
a referee, if you thought that they made a bad
call or a tech. You're gonna be able to pay
ten fifteen seconds voice your opinion as long as you're
not overstepping, and then the referee will say, all right,
that's enough, I get it, that's enough.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Stop. Yeah, but if.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
You continue to poke and poke and poke, that's where
Draymond starts to go over the line again, kicking guys
in the nuts, punching guys, repeatedly, stepping on guy's chest,
choke holding guys.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
That's a loti player. Yes you are.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You're a dirty player, but that's what's kept you in
the league for as long as it is because you're
the enforcer for the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
You can be an enforcer, but you can you don't
have to go over the line. You're the hockey Bowen
to this day, love Bruce Bowen. Bruce Bowen was a
dirty player scissor kicking Wally Zerbiak in the face.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
But you never saw Bruce Bowen go over the line
and start and starting.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
To meeting and start arguing with referees.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, Bruce, Bruce Boonen's not throwing punches, he's not kicking
dudes in the nuts. And Draymond's been suspended and find
appropriately almost every time that that's happened, and there is
no root for that. But I do think that Draymond
Green knows he's got to play with an edge to
be able to stay in the league for as long
as he has and for a little bit longer before retirement.
(10:47):
All Right, we've got some celebrity news and we'll talk
about the NCAA sixteen game proposal. It's all coming up
on the Andy Everage Show. On the Ticket
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