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Speaker 1 (00:03):
We have got Game three coming up later this week.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We've got Game two last night with Indiana coming away
with a or with a Thunder coming away with a
win to even things up at one game apiece, and
now we move to Indiana for a couple of games.
See what happens there. There's a lot of talk out
there as we get closer to the end of the season,
and the NBA frowns these days on teams making moves
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while the finals are going on. They don't want any
thing to upstage the finals, so you're not going to
necessarily hear anything for sure that isn't going to take
place until after the finals are over.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Kind of like the Super We've tried that stage. Yeah,
don't upstage the finals.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So what have we got another week and a half
of potential games up until like the seventeenth or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Nineteenth I think it's the twenty second is the latest
they can go.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Okay, so the twenty seventh is the draft or twenty fifth.
Twenty fifth is the draft, So you probably won't hear
anything until after the twenty second or twentieth or that what,
depending on when the finals are over. But according to
Bill Simmons, what publication is he with these days? Says
he changed hands and couples on his own now and.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Then changed hands several times. I want to say, Bleacher,
Shane just nod your hest. No, it's not Bleach. I
forget where he is, but I know he does his
own thing. But he's a respected guy. He's been tied
into the NBA for quite a while. I mean he
used to be respected, at least in my standpoint, not
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so much anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
He's also the founder and CEO of the Ringer. That's
that's one that is so According to Bill Simmons, Kevin
Durant to the Spurs is done. They're just waiting for
the finals to end before they announce it. Now, I'm
going to put about last half full glass half empty
with that comment because I don't necessarily think that that's
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one hundred percent accurate. I don't know that it's one
hundred percent not accurate. Uh, but here are the thoughts
on that somebody's going to be leaving the Spurs if
that's going to happen, and the guy that makes the
most amount of money is Devin Vessel, and that would
probably be the quickest way to get money exchange. My
guess is that there's another team involved in this as well,
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if that's going to happen, and maybe Vissill goes someplace
else and Picks go to the Suns and Kevin Durant
ends up with the Spurs, and I don't hate the trade,
and I think Kevin Durant, and obviously Wimby's talked about
Kevin Durant is one of his idols and somebody that's
tried to pattern his game about. What I think will
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be really interesting is how Wimby and Kevin Durant play together,
because both like to play on the perimeter. Durant a
far better shooter than Wemby is right now. Not that
Wemby won't be in the future, but imagine a three four,
I guess a four or five of Wimby and KD
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and then you got Deer and Fox and Castle and
I don't even care who the fifth guy is. That's
Those are four pretty predominant scores. Steven Adams, baby, well,
I don't even think you need to go big. I
want Steve too, But right now, if you have Durant
in in uh In, Wimby on the floor and another
I don't think you can play three seven vooters.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Can you?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Of course you can. People didn't think you could play
six six court.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
You know what, they don't. They're not going to play
forty eight straight minutes. No, But would Steven Adams start?
I would let Stephen Adams start?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Why not play fox Castle, Wimby KD and Steven Adams
because because you, again, you also have the potential of
depending on who's still here.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You know, that's the biggest thing is right now.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I'm just going by the rumor mill, the gossip column.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Whatever you want to say, is the odd man out
would be sad in that article? Does it stay who
would be potentially a part of it?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
It does not.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But but you're you have to when you look at
when you look at making a trade, you start with
the guy who's making the most money because that gets
you to Kevin Durant's money quicker.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, but you still need at that point, you would
still need let's see fifty four next year, so Devin
wouldn't basically be half that.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, So you still need thirty million.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah. So let's let's just go with this.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Let's let's assume that it's to sell this out just
for the sake of this, here's your potential starting lineup, Wimby, Durant,
fox Castle.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Now here's the question.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Do you draft Harper with the second pick and have
him replace both Vassil and Chris Paul as Chris Paul's
maybe leaning towards going back to Los Angeles to play
one more year.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Well maybe if you're Phoenix at that point, do you
try to finagle the number two pick. Because the one
thing that you've keep saying that Phoenix does not have,
well not just that, but a legitimate point guard. Correct,
And again I know little to nothing about d and Harper.
Maybe he could be your potential point guard, that could
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be your potential everything.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
All these publications say that it's really important for the
Spurs to draft or for Dylan Harper to be the
second pick. But here's my thought. Remember the second pick
was when Wimby was drafted.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Uh, it was Scoot Henders.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Scoot Henderson, Yes he can't the guys better than Wimby. Yes, yeah,
he's been toiling away in purgatory too in Portland, and
not that he's been healthy at one hundred percent of
the time. And I don't think that necessarily Dylan Harper
is going to turn out to be Scoot Henderson. But
Dylan Harper is without Vassil and without Paul. He's got
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a place to play with Vassell, he doesn't. Yeah, because
again we were already as the Spurs, they're already very
heavily guard loaded, and we've we've saw this year what
happens when they decide to go three guards they go
small ball. Is they get bullied around when it comes
to trying to get a defensive rebound or even make
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stops as much as potential. That again, Dylan Harper possibly
has from what all the reports are, the scouts are
and the Spurs saying, hey, this kid does this well
this well, I'm gonna trust them for the most part.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I just don't know if.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Do you really need to take that though. That's the
only thing is you and I both we would love Malawatch.
That's what we need. We need a big guy. But
you can't overdraft them that hot.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well, yeah, you can't draft Mallowatch or a Queen with
a second pick, especially when you can get more assets
for Harper and then still get who you want.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
The only thing with.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Queen though, is and I know you're big on it,
because you like his his moxy, his cock mobility, and
a little more. He's your more traditional state big guy.
Where hey, I'm drafting Malawatch. We're not designing plays for you.
You're playing defense, You're rebounding, your blocking shit getting put
and you're getting put backs and hopefully you can shoot
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seventy five percent of the free thrown because you're going
to get foul. I wonder though, if if you decide
to go get like a Derrek queen, do now do
we start to have too many kiks in the kitchen
to where again there's only one ball. It's gonna be
Wemby first, Daron Fox second, and then a mixture of Kelden, Harrison.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Bond, whoever else is still I think Fox and Castle
can basically play one and two together. And I don't
care what trade scenario is out there, Steph Castle can't
be part of it. Fox, Castle and Wimby are the
protected players on this team as far as I'm concerned.
Everybody else I'm up for discussion.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Now any of those Harrison Barnes man, you're not touching.
He would be the next guy.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
But I if you make the deal sweet enough, I
could say, Okay, but I Harrison Barnes came here to
be to finish, I think, finish his career here across
and I hope, so I don't want to move him either.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
But let let's go.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Let's say you Dylan Harper, but you still have to
get a center to play behind these guys. So let's
go Wimby, Durant, Fox, Castle, and somehow you trade up
or trade down to get Malawatch and then you go
so Hand Barnes, Keldon Johnson, CHAMPENNI maybe the fourteenth pick.
You also get a player that can come in and play,
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and then you can put Bassie or somebody else behind
them to be the backup center. I like the roster,
and I think the roster could easily win close to
fifty games next year just as long as they stay
relatively healthy. With Castle, Fox, Durant and Wimby. I mean,
you're looking at eighty points a game between those four players.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, yeah, So, I.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Mean that's gonna be the biggest key, though obviously it's
the biggest key going into every season for every team
is staying healthy. I just again I realized that Spurs
fans are very enamored and enticed by the possible potential
with Dylan Harper because he's getting hyped up.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I just basketball. I didn't watch a lick up. I
didn't see a game they played. Here's my name. Did
they make the tournament? I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
No, see, they didn't even make the tournament. So but
here's my thought.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
If the Spurs needed a Dylan Harper, I'd be all
in on Dylan Harper with a number two pick exactly.
But they to me, they have clones of Dylan Harper
right now with Vassell and Fox and Castle. So how
are you going to add a fourth to that puzzle
and give him the minutes that the number two pick
in the draft deserves. Remember what I said about Castle,
He's the fourth overall pick in the draft.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
At some point he's got to be a starter.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
At least in my mind, the fourth overall pick of
the draft should be a starter and play thirty plus
minutes a game. And with the roster as it's composed
right now, if you don't make any trades, you don't
trade for Durant, you keep the roster the way it is.
And even if Chris Paul leaves, now you've got Vassell
and Castle and Fox I just you got ninety six
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minutes between those two positions at one and two, and
those three players are gonna take eighty five of them.
I think the number two pick in the draft deserves
to play more than eleven minutes a game.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, I don't know if you would be on board
with as much as this team goes. Hey, your egos
out the door as soon as you walk onto the course. Sure,
even you would probably be like, yeah, we're not drafting
the number two overall player to be the backup point right.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Well, in the fifty seventh pick of the draft, which
could you could argue is the greatest six man of
all time? In Manu was the number he was. He
became the all time six man. When he was drafted,
there was no place for him. Even we never thought
he would ever play. Yeah, he wasn't even Manu. He
was a manual then manual David Ginu bid. Yeah, So
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we waited for him to develop and then he turned
into that. But if you're gonna make the number two
pick on opening night, that guy either starts or he's
the first guy off the bench and he's playing thirty minutes. Otherwise,
I think it's a wasted pick, and if you don't
think he can give you that, I wouldn't I trade
the pick and go get a player that can play
that those minutes. Because obviously this team only won thirty
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four games last year, and Wimby didn't play the last
what thirty thirty five something like that, and Fox didn't
play the last twenty twenty five. So you've got a
lot of firepower that didn't play the back half of
the season. Uh, and then you've got the rookie of
the Year for the second year in a row. I
like the team, and I think there's even more tradable
pieces here and there as well, you know, Keldon Johnson,
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Champagne and Barnes potentially coming off the bench. So Hand
is one of those He's got so many things he
does well. He just doesn't do one thing great. He
does a lot of things good, not everything great. He's
he's kind of like a Swiss army knives.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
He like you mentioned, wherever you need him.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
He does a lot of different things, but he doesn't
necessarily excel at one particular thing. That's that's a little
bit of a concern there. In an ideal world, you
keep both picked. If you take Dylan Harper. That's fine
because if Devon Vasel is perfectly fine with being relegated,
I say, I don't not relegated, but getting moved to
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how Kelden Johnson was, Hey, we're gonna move you to
the bench, you come off the bench, you win kJ
You're gonna be the one too when it comes off
of coming off the bench. That's a pretty good firepower
to have Devon Vassel and Kelden Johnson coming off your bench.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
But then you have Dearan at the one.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
You can either play Dylan Harper at the two or
the three, and then you can flip flopping with stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
But if Bill Simmons is right and Durant is here,
now the Spurs become one of those top four or
five teams that's gonna vue for the championship. And this
goes back to Oklahoma City. Oklahoma City is this is
why I think it's important for them to win now.
Indiana can still win the East next year because Boston's
gonna get blown up, Cleveland overachieved. We don't know about Milwaukee.
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The Knicks are gonna get a new coach and may
have to get rid of players. Indiana could be the
best team in the East next year, whereas the cards
are going to get shuffled in the West because everybody's
going to be fighting for spots from day one. All Right,
the House settlement happened on Friday evening. We'll tell you
more about what we think that's going to matter and
where I still think there's some questions to be asked
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and answered.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
We'll talk about that next. It's the Andy Everage Show
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