Thursday: Emmanuel Clase Turns Himself In

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
But see, here's the thing, though, if he's found not guilty,
it's Major League Baseball going to let him play.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I mean, I think you could.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
You could end up seeing like we have in other leagues,
even you know the NFL lately the last few years,
where guys face charges didn't end up getting charged or
or charges were dropped, or they were actually acquitted if
it did go to trial, but the league still said no, no, no,
here's a six game ban or here's a four game suspension.

(00:30):
You still have seen it where despite not getting charged legally,
the league still says we've seen enough to say you're
getting some level of punishing.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
But I'm looking at it from this standpoint.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
To me, if and I don't know if this jury
will anybody will care to watch the trial if it's
on TV anyway. But let's say that he's found not
guilty and the jury's just you know, out in one
of those juries that doesn't get it and doesn't understand baseball.
But we as fans see all the evidence and go,
there's no way he's not guilty in the court of

(01:03):
public opinion. If he's not guilty, this Major League Baseball
put somebody out there that even though he quote unquote
got off.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Did he really did he do it? Or did he not?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
And to me, I know, lawyers are you know, shut
your mouth and don't say anything. And my job is
to make sure you don't go to jail because he's
facing twenty years in the big House if if he
gets convicted of this. But if I didn't do something,
I don't want to be found not guilty. I want
to be found innocent because not guilty means I got acquitted.

(01:35):
But I still have to put up with people who
doubt whether or not I did it or not. I
want and I know that we live in a world
where you're innocental, proven guilty and it's up to the
state to prove your guilt. But because of social media,
because of media in general, because of all the things
that we we hear, I mean, even the oj trial
we didn't have social media. We had live TV in

(01:56):
the courtroom. But when the public has an opinion and
regardless of what the jury says, it handicaps your ability
to ever lead your life again. And if Emmanuel Clause
ever wants to pitch in the in Major League Baseball,
to me, he's got to in a way figure out
a way to get people to believe he didn't do this.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, and I mean that that just based on again
until I see some different evidence based on what I've seen,
that is one of the toughest uphill battles I've seen.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's coincidental that my cousin was visiting them from the
Dominican Republic and on the pitch that he actually bet on,
he won eleven thousand dollars because I threw it in
the in the left handed batter's box.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, it could it could have been anybody. It just
so happened to be my cousin. Well, completely, simply completely.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Now, if you were going to throw it, you know,
get him eleven grand or whatever, and you were gonna
take five percent of it, at least make it look
good and throw a ninety two mile an hour hanging
curveball that anybody can whack out of the park.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
You'll appreciate this as a some one of Yankees fans
friends sent this to me one of the some of
the pitches that Closse was betting on. You literally see
he throws a he throws a hangar to Vulpe, and
Volpe swings through it and misses it and then you
see class literally react like, oh, you were supposed to

(03:20):
hit that one.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
You just cost me money.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
And because Volpi was having such a rough year at
the plate, he couldn't even hit a pitch that was
served up to him to potentially be a payday for
Classe and his cousin.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah. Yeah, I think with all of the with all
of the.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Heat around the league's as it in regards to betting,
I would think you're still going to see some level
of punishment even no matter what the legal system says.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
We have breaking news as well. Okay, what's breaking news?

Speaker 3 (03:53):
The National League MVP for now fourth year in a
row between the two leagues he's played in show Heyo
Tani shalking.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Shocking. I think we all could have seen that one coming.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Well, the perform and I know it's a regular season award,
but the playoff performance that he had when he was
he was nine for nine on base and four for
four before they walked him five times and the last
one wasn't intentional, but there wasn't a pitch within a
mile of the strike zone would have looked good with
those pitches they were throwing.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah, no, that's that's what class A. That's his defense
and court. It's like I imagine to walk him. I
imagine I'm going up against show Heyo Tani every time,
and that's makes me a better pitcher.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
That's why I threw that one in the dirt.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, that that we're gonna get with the Otani defense.
I wonder if you could call the interpreter for as
a character witness.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
That's I was about to say, he might actually he
might not be a bad strategy to try to drag
Otani into your defense there, because there's still some questions
surrounding that whole ordeal.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
I would like answer.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Thing with me and I and I kind of get
this too to a certain extent, because you and I
live in a world where if somebody asks us how
much money do we have? I either know or I
can find out in about seven seconds with a few
clicks of a computer exactly what my net worth is.
And I can dial up all the accounts that you

(05:17):
have and get your passwords. And it's about this, And
you would think that Major League Baseball players who are
making millions of dollars would be more sincere about making
sure that every dollar that they have is accounted for
But I've been around a lot of athletes.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, I was about to say, athletes.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Don't live in that world. No, God, athletes, they athletes.
You talk about a cash list group now and back
in the day when they got cash for per diem,
they'd spent at the casino in ten minutes after they
got it, or at the poker game in the back
of the plane. But they have a credit card and
they have a kind of an idea of what they

(05:56):
can spend.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
But they never.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
See the credit card statement because an agent's paying the
bill out of their account. They never see a mortgage
a check for their house. How much is your house payment?
I have no idea how much is your property tax?
Don't know how much is your car payment? We paid
cash for it. They live in a different world. And
that's what the agency business became back in the nineteen

(06:20):
early nineteen sixties with Arnold Palmer and Martin McCormick. And
they have no idea what they spend. They have no idea.
They have handlers that do all that. And had I
been a world class athlete, which I'm far from, I
would have had a really really hard time of letting

(06:42):
that go. And the idea behind it is, I'm your
professional business manager.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I'll take care of all that.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
You go work out, you go lift weights, you go
get hit in the cajun bat, you go throw, you know,
shoot six hundred jump shots today. You don't have time
to balance your bills, which and also leads to people
taking advantage of you and spending your money. It happened
to Tim Duncan, it happened to Kreem Abdul Jabbar, It
happened to a whole bunch of other athletes over the time,

(07:09):
where they give way to somebody else that doesn't have
their best interest. And in this case, Otani's interpreter literally
had the passwords to every account he had and conciphon
money off, and from a bank transaction standpoint, it looks
like Otani was doing it and he had no idea.
But I understand the world that athletes live in, and

(07:32):
it's really hard for the rest of us to understand
that because we can't don't, and we'll never live that way.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, the only part of the Otani one that still
causes me any level of like I would I would
be curious to hear a further investigation or a deeper
dive into the fact that the betters, the betting site,
the you know, the sports books were continuing to allow

(08:00):
the random interpreter of an athlete to get that far.
And that's the part of the money coming from.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
So either Atani's Otani's either giving it to you knowing
you're gonna bet and giving you information on who to bet, right,
or you're stealing it.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Right, that's the question.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
So you know, where's that Where does that line get drawn?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
And that's where they play it was stolen. But also
at the same time, I don't know, there's too many
hands that that money is being passed through for me
to not think that one of them would say this phase.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Hey, somebody, just a dollar bet with your money.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Exactly, That's what that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
But let's protect the golden goose that is Shotani for baseball.
I certainly want to see him play another decade.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, I I absolutely could not. I could not trust anyone.
I understand. They could be the manager and they can
negotiate the contracts and they can do all that. Most
of the bills are paid online anyway or auto auto drafted.
I'll take care of that. I'll dial up the bank statement,
you're not touching that. I could not give that much.

(09:05):
I couldn't give that much control to somebody else. All Right,
Baylor situation in AJ Brown Next, it's six point thirty
on the ticket.