July 31, 2023 • 22 mins
A very special Pop-Up episode of The Babyfaces as we welcome former UWN Heritage Champion, NWA Television Champion Zicky Dice to the show to talk about his Loser Leaves Impact match and what free agency looks like for him!
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Hey, this is Almighty Bobby Lashlyand you're listening to the baby Face Podcast.
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the baby Faces podcast. How's itgoing on? WB Super started Celtic Warriors
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here Billy's voice, Billy the Kid. It's been a little busy for us
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The baby Faces Podcast. Also feelfree to follow us on all social media
platforms at baby Faces Pod. Comingat you with a very special episode because
we just have a man that wason TV last night and he's coming from
his sick looking camera and nice lookingman cave back there. He is the
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outlandish Zicky Dice, former former HeritageChampion, former NWA Television Champion, Zicky.
What's up? Man? Daniel friendtold me that you are that you're
on a plane, so I'm assumingyou're back home? Is just I'm back
home unless I have Unless I havea private jet that looks like this.
Austin, you wise ask yeah,I mean something. Let me tell you
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something. Shut up for a second. This is the first interview I'm doing
as a free agent. Did youjust hear what I said? First interview
I'm doing as a free agent.So I apologize if I seem a little
sour this afternoon. All right,I've got a lot on my chest and
I'm gonna go ahead and say thisright now the baby Faced Podcast. No,
Austin, I'm the pilot of today'sshow, Outlanded Zicky Dice. This
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is my show. Now I'm gonnalet you ask a few questions. I'm
gonna let people chime in and I'mgonna I'm gonna leave minds wandering by the
end of the show. But listen, you said, and let's just go
ahead and talk about it. Loserleaves Impact match last night. You you
this is this is your buddy thatyou came in with. This is Johnny
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Swinger And what's it feel like too? I mean swerve bro, I mean
he It was a very emotional match. There was a very lot of turns
and back and forth, and itseemed like at one point he was just
gonna let you have the reins.He knows how much it meant to you.
Well, once again he hit youwith the swerve. But after watching,
I feel like you kind of askedfor zick. You had. You
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guys played mind games a little bitand you started out with the finger polka.
Do you know what Swinger does andSwinger calls outside? I don't.
I don't do much. Listen.It was always in one year and out
the other. I'll be honest withyou, It's been like that in my
whole life. You know. Icame in from the learning tree under Brian
Myers and then ended up in SwingersDungeon there doing some training stretching out,
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and I don't know if it wasbecause of my referee work, but hell,
I thought I was one of thebest referees Impacts ever seen. Next
thing, you know, I cometo find out that I'm gonna loser leaves
Impact Match, a loser leaves townagainst Johnny Swinger. I mean, I
was his protege. But unfortunately,as we all seen last night, this
business is full of snakes, andlast night I got bit right in my
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ass cheek by Johnny Swinger himself,costing me my job and my contract at
Impact Wrestling. I think it wasactually pretty mean of him too, because
I don't know. I mean,I watched it back last night. I
didn't know his foot his feet wereon the ropes when he made the pin.
I mean, I don't know whatthese referees are doing Nowaday the overall
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decency of Swinger to do that.You escorted him out to the ring by
far, and he didn't even havethe decency to go back there and escort
you back out to the ring,and he lets you get on his platform
at the very end, only onlyto clothesline you off. So do you
think whether inside impact or outside thisis the last of you and Johnny Swinger
youse guys think to cross pass againand probably he should watch out Hey,
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you know, you know, letbuy guns be by guns. It's now
time the world sees a different sideof the dice. No more funny business
from outlander Zicky Dice. There's alot there's a lot of things that people
don't know about myself, a lotof accolades. Hell, maybe the fact
that I'm a national champion in GrecoRoman wrestling. Or hell, maybe the
fact that I'm a national champion offreestyle wrestling, or maybe I'm a second
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place metal holder in sambo wrestling.Maybe I just start whooping people's asses.
Now, you know we've done We'vedone magic tricks, We've done the googo
gay guy, We've laughed our assesoff, and I've given you tons of
laugh But you know what, I'mnot laughing anymore. Does it look like
there's a goddamn smile on my faceright now? No? No, I
see my peers around me. Hell, Austin, I just spent the last
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two weeks playing video games of myfriends playing video games in my friend Why
am I not in a video game? How come there's no Ziki Dice action
figures. How come I'm not inthe goddamn main event. I could talk
better than everyone, I can workbetter than everyone, and I can wrestle
better than everyone. Look, lookat this camera. You're speaking, we're
speaking through seen this camera. Ido everything on another level, every better
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than everybody else. And you knowwhat, they hate me because they hate
me. That's exactly what it is. Not one. I'm not asking one
of my freaking friends to go outthere and and and speak the name Zicky
Dice out of their lips. Iwouldn't. I wouldn't want Ziki Dice coming
in and taking my job, takingmy spot. So I'm not expecting that
from anyone. I look at Look, it's either you're with Ziki Dice or
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you're against them. And Austin,I don't see anyone standing next to me.
I don't see anyone standing beside me. It's absolutely whether I run into
Johnny Swinger or anyone from anywhere elseor not down the line, so be
it, because everyone is an enemyat this point, and I'm gonna do
I'm gonna do what I have todo to grab everyone's attention. I'm telling
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you right now. This is thisis your warning. This is your warning.
What does free agency look like?For Zicki Dice? You know,
I understand that you're You're an absolutelyin shape dude. You look like a
star. You have all the mechanics. I am a star? Is this?
I am a star? You knowwhat? You know? What am
I allowed to cuss on here?If? Well? Good? Just fuck
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that. I'm a megastar. Iam a megastar. I can do it
better than every everybody else, everybodyelse. But you know what the problem
is, Austin, you know whatthe problem is. I need to know.
No one has believed in Zicki asmuch as Ziki believes in Ziki yet,
so it's time that I leave thedesk and I spread my wings and
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do what I was destined to do. Try me, try me. What's
free agency look like? It lookslike a lot of negotiations, It looks
like a lot of phone calls.It looks like Zicki Dice saying no.
What saying no? For the firsttime in nine years of my career,
I'm saying no. I'm thinking youknow, you know your price, you
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know what you're worth, and you'vebeen in this business long enough to get
yourself over, and I know myworth. I've done two shows with Twitch
with over a million views each.Looks a few things going on right now
that I can't even talk about becausethey're so big. They're so big.
I know what I'm capable of.And guess what, I've done this all
by myself. D I y untilthe day I die. So if anyone's
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listening, this is your chance toinvest. This is your chance to invest
in the highest raising stock in allof entertainment. I'll tell you what,
because I took the you know whatI do. I shit, I'm professional
wrestling. I shit, I'm professionalwrestling because Ziki Dice is bigger than professional
wrestling. So all the boys andgirls in the locker room, guess what
they can have it because I'm takingthis off and I'm taking over the goddamn
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world. They need to just weneed to get ahold of Daniel, and
we need to tell him. Youneed to single handedly end this actor's strike.
They need to get you on atelevision. We're not doing justice of
you, not being you know,wrestling company right now, You're right,
you know what it is. Don'tchange the channel, don't change the channel,
because every moment there's a different channelin my head. I'm obsessed with
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television. I'm obsessed with it,and I'm a television megastar, and you
know it. The world knows it, and those that don't want to admit
it, they know it too.I want to see what kind of pops
in your head when I mentioned acouple things, and maybe we could just
peel the curtain back a little bit. Free agency, as we just said,
And there's a couple of big showscoming up that maybe a couple of
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companies can use a star like ZickyDice. Let's just think of a show
maybe going on in Detroit in acouple of weeks, or hell, we
could talk about a show that's goingon overseas at Wimble in a couple of
weeks. But they're gonna have tocome and the price is gonna have to
be right for Zicky Dice. Let'ssay you get the calls, you get
the call from the big Pal,or you get the call from the guys
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down at Warner. What's that negotiationgonna sound like? And are you gonna
are you just gonna basically do whatyou are? You gonna put them are
you gonna put yourself in the pilot'sseat and you're gonna be calling the shots.
Listen, Today's price is not yesterday's. You don't think I have balls,
Austin, You don't think I haveballs? Oh, big ones,
here it is. Make sure youclip this, make sure you share this
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with the world. Any one ofyou big time promoters that love money as
much as Outlander is Zicky Dice lovesmoney. This is your chance, and
I'm gonna tell you right now,today's price is not tomorrow's. Give me
a call at seven four zero foursix nine nine three eight eight. That
is my actual phone number. Goahead, give me a call. The
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phone lines are open. I dareyou. I think I can hear them
ringing right now. This is Iheart Rate and this is a platform,
and I'm pretty sure these are gonnacome across some big ears. These guys
have to know what they're in for. I mentioned it at the top of
the show, Ziki NWA Television Champion, u w N Heritage Champion. And
that is actually one of your biggestabout this time last year is when you
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won that in a triple threat match, and um, you had plenty of
people who had to hold that.You've La Knight from the La Knight has
held that, You've had Adam Piercehold that. What was it light to
hold the uWin Heritage Champion and definitelyLeague, I don't even say you elevated
it right? You elevated right?What was it like? It was another
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Tuesday for me, Austin your wiseass, it was another Tuesday. And
and let's let's rewind a little bit. Let's let's talk about the NWA Television
Championship. Yes, let's talk.You want to list off the people that
have held that title? What happenedto them after they lost that title?
Mega start them, Mega start them. We're a little delayed on that.
We're a few years behind everybody else. But that's okay because now now it's
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my time. Now. Whether Iend up at WWE feels so weird to
say these these letters off my littleWe could we could, we could.
Whether I end up at n XT, whether I end up at New Japan
Pro Wrestling or All Elite Pro Wrestlingor the NWA or Ring a Bonner,
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one of them, one of themis bound to get outlandish. And when
that moment comes, I'm telling you, buckle up. Because I'm coming and
swinging. It seems like you arevery much a lone ranger at this point.
And I've done everything that this businesshas asked me. I've done everything.
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With the thank you, sir,may I have another, I still
have shit on my nose. Sodon't tell me that I hadn't paid my
dues. Don't tell me that Ihaven't put in the work. Look at
my website, Ziki dot com.Go ahead and take a look. It's
better than anyone else's, more thanany promotion. Go ahead and look at
my promos. They're better than anyoneelse's. You wouldn't look at my word.
It's better than anyone else. Ifyou just let me do what I
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do best, and that's what I'mdoing. I am taking control. This
is my ship now, baby.So even when you do all of that,
you have many talents outside of outsideof wrestling. You've gotten your You
can even draw the parallels Ziki tothe man, one of the most popular
men and and one of the biggestcompanies right now with La Knight. You
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say him too, right? Whoare you? Who are you going to
say? I was I was sayingI was gonna say La Night and just
because I take my fannie pack offto La Night. Absolutely, I'll type
of good fanny pack to La andNight. Yeah and yeah. Yeah.
The thing is is he's he's heldthe title that you've held before, and
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it seems like he also had areally late start to now we're starting to
see his stardom. People are startingto see on the internet things at La
I was in commercials years ago,when years ago, and it seems like,
you know, it's kind of likea smart thing to do. You're
gonna kind of have your business andeverything. I know, your deals with
Twitch and you know, I've actuallyread some stuff that you were talking with
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other x aw wrestlers and kind oftold you to stick to a platform and
find your thing, and when yougot your deal with Twitch, that's when
you really kind of set off.So well, thankful for that platform.
You know, it's opened up alot of doors for me. And although
I admit I've been slacking, I'mit's so busy and there's been a lot
going on in the head of ZickyDice right now. Well, that's what
I kind of want to ask withstars like you. When stars like La
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Night your guys is kind of aurathat do this. What's it like to
balance that professional wrestling style and stillkeep it, to transition over into twitch
and still be able to make moneyoutside of the wrestling by still keeping your
character, Because that's the thing thatwe always push on this podcast. As
character. There's a lot more thatgoes into a worker than just your five
star match pale And that's what alot of people forget in this business.
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And that's what I'm here to remindthem of, you know. And that's
what you see right here. Thisis the man, this is the brand
I am the business, especially nowwith my free agency. You think I'm
afraid Hell no, no, ohno, I'm not afraid of I'm not
afraid of a damn thing. Ifanything, my fanny pack just got a
little tighter. Excuse me, Ithink I just saw it through the screen.
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Damn right, you're damn right.I'm excited. I'm excited. I
got the blood flown, and I'mhungry. I'm hungrier than ever because I
still have a point to prove tomyself into the world. And I will
be damned damned if we make itthis far and you see me fail.
Look at my accolades. Go aheadand read the resume. I've done more
than than most of my peers inthe business. Seriously, side by side,
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line them up. What's the problem? I have everything? I literally
have everything. So what's the problemBecause Zicky Dice thinks he's better than he
is? No, No, youjust haven't seen Zicky Dice go. I
think some people just might be absolutelyintimidated by your aura, or they just
might see how you talk and theyjust know how confident you are. And
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I'm done pleasing people. I'm donepleasing people. I don't give a shit
what anyone in the locker room thinksabout me. I don't give a shit
about because you know what I learned. I learned, like I said earlier,
snakes, snakes everywhere, snakes.And so it's time that I become
a snake myself and I get selfish. It's time that I take what I
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want. I wanted to go aheadand ask you a question, and how
you know we talk about starts inprofessional wrestling. I was ringing up a
little bit about you, and kindof, just like everybody else, you
were a big fan of the ofthe product going up, growing up,
and I found this fun quote thatyou were in a kind of just like
me, you know, we yourmom used to tell you had to go
to bed and had to turn theTV off, but as soon as they
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left, to turn it right backon and turn the volume all the way
down. In my case, alwaysswitched the huge settings and try to change
it to black and white just incase. I thought that that would make
it where they couldn't see the thingunder my door. And then it turned
out it seemed like your parents neverthought that you would really get into that.
Then you went and you know,started your own rock band. You
you were in the lead singer forthe Heart to Hearts and then you eventually
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ended up blowing up and getting intothe wrestling business. What was it like,
you know, your inspiration from rockand I know, once again you're
a huge fan of wrestling, androck and wrestling ties into one another.
But when your rock career started,what kind of clicked into your mind and
just made you say, I'm gonnamake this jump to wrestling and I'm gonna
take this personality to wrestling because ittranslates very very well, well, thank
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you. I mean, it's thesame circus, different game where I mean,
and that's what I've learned earlier.I'm very thankful for it. I
was able to do with my musiccareer and still not over. I still
manage a few bands on the sidethrough pin up artist management. Ziki Dice
actually just recorded his first single.I'll be shooting music video for here soon,
doing a little guys up, doinga little solo project, so that
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be on the lookout for that.I don't know. It's it's it's it's
the drug I chase and it's ait's a very same drug. A lot
of people ask me, like,which do you prefer, and like,
I love music as much as Ilove wrestling, and it's and both of
them have been an outlet for mein a way for me to express myself.
And I don't know, I missit. There's there's aspects I miss,
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and there's a lot of things Idon't miss m But I love that
the difference between music and wrestling.I love that I'm able to put all
my faith into myself. I don'thave to rely on anybody else, and
that's what's gotten me this far.Yeah, absolutely, zick. Yeah,
I want to I want to wrapup and just to get a couple we
like to do on the Baby Facesa little rapid fire. We've done this
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with a couple of stars in thepast. We've had fun with Bobby Lashley
and even Mommy Ria Ripley. Sowhat I'm gonna do is just some just
some word associations. I'm just gonnasay. I'm just gonna say a sentence
something maybe means something to you andyou're just kind of first thing that kind
of pops your mind. You knowwhat that means to you? Now?
That was Since we're gonna sticking withthat music, hard rock and everything,
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or just say any type of music. What is the best concert You've ever
attended? Best live concert, ZickyDice ever been to? Oh man,
Uh, first one that comes tomind would be Deaf Tones and Poison the
Well in San Jose. I wasprobably like fifteen, sixteen years old.
F Tones. Yes, that's uh, that's Glenn Danzig, right, Is
that is he from Deaf Tomes orwho am I thinking of? No?
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No, uh, Chino? Youthinking Chino? Oh okay, yeah,
yeah, yeah, I know hewere talking about. See I think that.
Uh. We have a huge wehave a huge rock concert here in
Louisville called Louder than Life. Um. At the end of September. If
you happen to be kind of inthe if you happen to be kind of
in the area, let me know, well, well, well all these
gets you out to see all theserock bands? All right, next one,
we'll switch back to wrestling a littlebit. Favorite match you've ever had,
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Zicki Dice versus Ricky Starts for theNBA Television Championship. What was it
like working with Ricky Starks? Thebest, the best? I want to
do it again, I penned tobefore I think I can do it again?
Now is it? Does he doeshe kind of hold that over?
Is he you think that he couldprobably invite you into the into the company
and be like business. Listen,listen, I gave my phone number out
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on the show. People know whatI do and they know where to find
me. I'm not expecting anything fromanybody. One thing. I've always I'm
always interested to know in all differenttypes of wrestlers. What is your least
favorite move to take? You're gettingready to go out and line over the
top rope, clothes line over thetop rope? Is there any specifically?
It's the landing of it just it'sjust dangerous right going backwards. It sucks
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as it's absolutely you can get yourarm, takle on the rope, break
your arm, hit your knee orshins on the apron. Getting clothes line
over the top rope backward sucks.And I also hate taking double stomps of
any sort of top off of thisoff to the ribs, to the back,
I don't to the head. Idon't like the double stomps. I'll
take them because I'm a fucking idiot. But and we'll finish it up.
And we kind of started this onthe show. It may have been the
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one that we talked about. It'syour most painful tattoo, man, that
would have to be either my ribs, my elbow, or my hand.
The knuckles was actually very painting knuckles. Yes, are you addicted to tattoos?
Everyone's always like, I love gettingtattooed. It hurts like hell,
but I love getting tattooed. Ithink I might go and get some.
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I don't know, I might getsome meat done before before you see me
next. You know, absolutely wemight be able to see your next Actually
coming up here soon. We actuallyhave Derby City Wrestling going on August eighth.
That's gonna be at the Nortons COMPLEXUSeighth. Right, I'm pretty sure
I believe it was the sixth ofthe eighth. Yes, so let me
just go ahead. Yes, No, it is a six, Daniel,
I got it all wrong. Itis the six at the Nortons, at
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the Norton Sports Complex. It's aMuhammad Ali Boulevards brand, spanking new statius.
We put out a great show man. It's all ages. You get
to meet and Greek wrestlers. Yes, and uh, it's come on down
and see what we do. Andand I think a lot of people sleep
on the United Wrestling Network and it'sbeen around for a very long time,
and one hundred percent a lot ofstars that you know and love. Guess
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what, They all came through theUnited Wrestling Network at some point. Absolutely,
And you know we're possibly starting andtalking to the next one. Who
knows. By this time, inanother two weeks, you can have a
couple of titles on. You couldbe Zicky two belts, you could be
Ziggy two guitars. You may evenhave a Hollywood deal by then. So
regardless of what it is, we'reexcited to see you guys want to check
him out. You can also checkout a bunch of other things going on
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down there. It's gonna be atthe UWN taping and Louisville Sunday, August
sixth, and the main event isgonna be Danny Might Danny Limelight versus Moose
for the UW WIN title and you'redefinitely gonna see our man Zicky Dice down
there. Rickie, thank you forjoining us once again, and thank you
baby Listen listen. I made itnice and symbol for everyone. Listen to
follow this out everyone they call lifethe best is yet to come. Follow
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me at Zicky Dice on every pieceof social media out there. Check out
my brand new website Ziki Dice dotcom, zic k Y Dice dot com
and drop a line. And I'mtelling you keep your eyes peeled. Austin.
I want to thank you so muchfor having me. I want to
apologize my blood pressure is a littlehigher than most interviews, but given the
circumstances, I think it's appropriate.That's fine. You heard it here the
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Atlantist Zicki Dice. What is nextfor him? Stay tuned find out.
Thank you guys for listening this weekto the Baby Faces Podcast. We'll see
you next time
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here Billy's voice, Billy the Kid. It's been a little busy for us
in the radio world. Billy isactually went on to do some football coaching
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too, so you know, thedog days of summer got him a little
bored and you actually got called onto More High School here in Louisville to
help out with the QB backfield andthe QB's coaching there. So shout out
to Billy's a little busy, butwe should have him hopefully back next week
when we do our Summer Slam preview. But once again I'm in the pilot
seat. Thank you. It isAustin here, and you can make sure
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to follow us on the iHeartRadio podcastor wherever you get your podcast. It's
The baby Faces Podcast. Also feelfree to follow us on all social media
platforms at baby Faces Pod. Comingat you with a very special episode because
we just have a man that wason TV last night and he's coming from
his sick looking camera and nice lookingman cave back there. He is the
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outlandish Zicky Dice, former former HeritageChampion, former NWA Television Champion, Zicky.
What's up? Man? Daniel friendtold me that you are that you're
on a plane, so I'm assumingyou're back home? Is just I'm back
home unless I have Unless I havea private jet that looks like this.
Austin, you wise ask yeah,I mean something. Let me tell you
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something. Shut up for a second. This is the first interview I'm doing
as a free agent. Did youjust hear what I said? First interview
I'm doing as a free agent.So I apologize if I seem a little
sour this afternoon. All right,I've got a lot on my chest and
I'm gonna go ahead and say thisright now the baby Faced Podcast. No,
Austin, I'm the pilot of today'sshow, Outlanded Zicky Dice. This
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is my show. Now I'm gonnalet you ask a few questions. I'm
gonna let people chime in and I'mgonna I'm gonna leave minds wandering by the
end of the show. But listen, you said, and let's just go
ahead and talk about it. Loserleaves Impact match last night. You you
this is this is your buddy thatyou came in with. This is Johnny
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Swinger And what's it feel like too? I mean swerve bro, I mean
he It was a very emotional match. There was a very lot of turns
and back and forth, and itseemed like at one point he was just
gonna let you have the reins.He knows how much it meant to you.
Well, once again he hit youwith the swerve. But after watching,
I feel like you kind of askedfor zick. You had. You
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guys played mind games a little bitand you started out with the finger polka.
Do you know what Swinger does andSwinger calls outside? I don't.
I don't do much. Listen.It was always in one year and out
the other. I'll be honest withyou, It's been like that in my
whole life. You know. Icame in from the learning tree under Brian
Myers and then ended up in SwingersDungeon there doing some training stretching out,
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and I don't know if it wasbecause of my referee work, but hell,
I thought I was one of thebest referees Impacts ever seen. Next
thing, you know, I cometo find out that I'm gonna loser leaves
Impact Match, a loser leaves townagainst Johnny Swinger. I mean, I
was his protege. But unfortunately,as we all seen last night, this
business is full of snakes, andlast night I got bit right in my
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ass cheek by Johnny Swinger himself,costing me my job and my contract at
Impact Wrestling. I think it wasactually pretty mean of him too, because
I don't know. I mean,I watched it back last night. I
didn't know his foot his feet wereon the ropes when he made the pin.
I mean, I don't know whatthese referees are doing Nowaday the overall
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decency of Swinger to do that.You escorted him out to the ring by
far, and he didn't even havethe decency to go back there and escort
you back out to the ring,and he lets you get on his platform
at the very end, only onlyto clothesline you off. So do you
think whether inside impact or outside thisis the last of you and Johnny Swinger
youse guys think to cross pass againand probably he should watch out Hey,
(04:24):
you know, you know, letbuy guns be by guns. It's now
time the world sees a different sideof the dice. No more funny business
from outlander Zicky Dice. There's alot there's a lot of things that people
don't know about myself, a lotof accolades. Hell, maybe the fact
that I'm a national champion in GrecoRoman wrestling. Or hell, maybe the
fact that I'm a national champion offreestyle wrestling, or maybe I'm a second
(04:46):
place metal holder in sambo wrestling.Maybe I just start whooping people's asses.
Now, you know we've done We'vedone magic tricks, We've done the googo
gay guy, We've laughed our assesoff, and I've given you tons of
laugh But you know what, I'mnot laughing anymore. Does it look like
there's a goddamn smile on my faceright now? No? No, I
see my peers around me. Hell, Austin, I just spent the last
(05:08):
two weeks playing video games of myfriends playing video games in my friend Why
am I not in a video game? How come there's no Ziki Dice action
figures. How come I'm not inthe goddamn main event. I could talk
better than everyone, I can workbetter than everyone, and I can wrestle
better than everyone. Look, lookat this camera. You're speaking, we're
speaking through seen this camera. Ido everything on another level, every better
(05:31):
than everybody else. And you knowwhat, they hate me because they hate
me. That's exactly what it is. Not one. I'm not asking one
of my freaking friends to go outthere and and and speak the name Zicky
Dice out of their lips. Iwouldn't. I wouldn't want Ziki Dice coming
in and taking my job, takingmy spot. So I'm not expecting that
from anyone. I look at Look, it's either you're with Ziki Dice or
(05:54):
you're against them. And Austin,I don't see anyone standing next to me.
I don't see anyone standing beside me. It's absolutely whether I run into
Johnny Swinger or anyone from anywhere elseor not down the line, so be
it, because everyone is an enemyat this point, and I'm gonna do
I'm gonna do what I have todo to grab everyone's attention. I'm telling
(06:15):
you right now. This is thisis your warning. This is your warning.
What does free agency look like?For Zicki Dice? You know,
I understand that you're You're an absolutelyin shape dude. You look like a
star. You have all the mechanics. I am a star? Is this?
I am a star? You knowwhat? You know? What am
I allowed to cuss on here?If? Well? Good? Just fuck
(06:35):
that. I'm a megastar. Iam a megastar. I can do it
better than every everybody else, everybodyelse. But you know what the problem
is, Austin, you know whatthe problem is. I need to know.
No one has believed in Zicki asmuch as Ziki believes in Ziki yet,
so it's time that I leave thedesk and I spread my wings and
(06:56):
do what I was destined to do. Try me, try me. What's
free agency look like? It lookslike a lot of negotiations, It looks
like a lot of phone calls.It looks like Zicki Dice saying no.
What saying no? For the firsttime in nine years of my career,
I'm saying no. I'm thinking youknow, you know your price, you
(07:17):
know what you're worth, and you'vebeen in this business long enough to get
yourself over, and I know myworth. I've done two shows with Twitch
with over a million views each.Looks a few things going on right now
that I can't even talk about becausethey're so big. They're so big.
I know what I'm capable of.And guess what, I've done this all
by myself. D I y untilthe day I die. So if anyone's
(07:39):
listening, this is your chance toinvest. This is your chance to invest
in the highest raising stock in allof entertainment. I'll tell you what,
because I took the you know whatI do. I shit, I'm professional
wrestling. I shit, I'm professionalwrestling because Ziki Dice is bigger than professional
wrestling. So all the boys andgirls in the locker room, guess what
they can have it because I'm takingthis off and I'm taking over the goddamn
(08:03):
world. They need to just weneed to get ahold of Daniel, and
we need to tell him. Youneed to single handedly end this actor's strike.
They need to get you on atelevision. We're not doing justice of
you, not being you know,wrestling company right now, You're right,
you know what it is. Don'tchange the channel, don't change the channel,
because every moment there's a different channelin my head. I'm obsessed with
(08:26):
television. I'm obsessed with it,and I'm a television megastar, and you
know it. The world knows it, and those that don't want to admit
it, they know it too.I want to see what kind of pops
in your head when I mentioned acouple things, and maybe we could just
peel the curtain back a little bit. Free agency, as we just said,
And there's a couple of big showscoming up that maybe a couple of
(08:48):
companies can use a star like ZickyDice. Let's just think of a show
maybe going on in Detroit in acouple of weeks, or hell, we
could talk about a show that's goingon overseas at Wimble in a couple of
weeks. But they're gonna have tocome and the price is gonna have to
be right for Zicky Dice. Let'ssay you get the calls, you get
the call from the big Pal,or you get the call from the guys
(09:11):
down at Warner. What's that negotiationgonna sound like? And are you gonna
are you just gonna basically do whatyou are? You gonna put them are
you gonna put yourself in the pilot'sseat and you're gonna be calling the shots.
Listen, Today's price is not yesterday's. You don't think I have balls,
Austin, You don't think I haveballs? Oh, big ones,
here it is. Make sure youclip this, make sure you share this
(09:33):
with the world. Any one ofyou big time promoters that love money as
much as Outlander is Zicky Dice lovesmoney. This is your chance, and
I'm gonna tell you right now,today's price is not tomorrow's. Give me
a call at seven four zero foursix nine nine three eight eight. That
is my actual phone number. Goahead, give me a call. The
(09:54):
phone lines are open. I dareyou. I think I can hear them
ringing right now. This is Iheart Rate and this is a platform,
and I'm pretty sure these are gonnacome across some big ears. These guys
have to know what they're in for. I mentioned it at the top of
the show, Ziki NWA Television Champion, u w N Heritage Champion. And
that is actually one of your biggestabout this time last year is when you
(10:16):
won that in a triple threat match, and um, you had plenty of
people who had to hold that.You've La Knight from the La Knight has
held that, You've had Adam Piercehold that. What was it light to
hold the uWin Heritage Champion and definitelyLeague, I don't even say you elevated
it right? You elevated right?What was it like? It was another
(10:37):
Tuesday for me, Austin your wiseass, it was another Tuesday. And
and let's let's rewind a little bit. Let's let's talk about the NWA Television
Championship. Yes, let's talk.You want to list off the people that
have held that title? What happenedto them after they lost that title?
Mega start them, Mega start them. We're a little delayed on that.
We're a few years behind everybody else. But that's okay because now now it's
(11:03):
my time. Now. Whether Iend up at WWE feels so weird to
say these these letters off my littleWe could we could, we could.
Whether I end up at n XT, whether I end up at New Japan
Pro Wrestling or All Elite Pro Wrestlingor the NWA or Ring a Bonner,
(11:26):
one of them, one of themis bound to get outlandish. And when
that moment comes, I'm telling you, buckle up. Because I'm coming and
swinging. It seems like you arevery much a lone ranger at this point.
And I've done everything that this businesshas asked me. I've done everything.
(11:46):
With the thank you, sir,may I have another, I still
have shit on my nose. Sodon't tell me that I hadn't paid my
dues. Don't tell me that Ihaven't put in the work. Look at
my website, Ziki dot com.Go ahead and take a look. It's
better than anyone else's, more thanany promotion. Go ahead and look at
my promos. They're better than anyoneelse's. You wouldn't look at my word.
It's better than anyone else. Ifyou just let me do what I
(12:07):
do best, and that's what I'mdoing. I am taking control. This
is my ship now, baby.So even when you do all of that,
you have many talents outside of outsideof wrestling. You've gotten your You
can even draw the parallels Ziki tothe man, one of the most popular
men and and one of the biggestcompanies right now with La Knight. You
(12:31):
say him too, right? Whoare you? Who are you going to
say? I was I was sayingI was gonna say La Night and just
because I take my fannie pack offto La Night. Absolutely, I'll type
of good fanny pack to La andNight. Yeah and yeah. Yeah.
The thing is is he's he's heldthe title that you've held before, and
(12:52):
it seems like he also had areally late start to now we're starting to
see his stardom. People are startingto see on the internet things at La
I was in commercials years ago,when years ago, and it seems like,
you know, it's kind of likea smart thing to do. You're
gonna kind of have your business andeverything. I know, your deals with
Twitch and you know, I've actuallyread some stuff that you were talking with
(13:15):
other x aw wrestlers and kind oftold you to stick to a platform and
find your thing, and when yougot your deal with Twitch, that's when
you really kind of set off.So well, thankful for that platform.
You know, it's opened up alot of doors for me. And although
I admit I've been slacking, I'mit's so busy and there's been a lot
going on in the head of ZickyDice right now. Well, that's what
I kind of want to ask withstars like you. When stars like La
(13:39):
Night your guys is kind of aurathat do this. What's it like to
balance that professional wrestling style and stillkeep it, to transition over into twitch
and still be able to make moneyoutside of the wrestling by still keeping your
character, Because that's the thing thatwe always push on this podcast. As
character. There's a lot more thatgoes into a worker than just your five
star match pale And that's what alot of people forget in this business.
(14:01):
And that's what I'm here to remindthem of, you know. And that's
what you see right here. Thisis the man, this is the brand
I am the business, especially nowwith my free agency. You think I'm
afraid Hell no, no, ohno, I'm not afraid of I'm not
afraid of a damn thing. Ifanything, my fanny pack just got a
little tighter. Excuse me, Ithink I just saw it through the screen.
(14:24):
Damn right, you're damn right.I'm excited. I'm excited. I
got the blood flown, and I'mhungry. I'm hungrier than ever because I
still have a point to prove tomyself into the world. And I will
be damned damned if we make itthis far and you see me fail.
Look at my accolades. Go aheadand read the resume. I've done more
than than most of my peers inthe business. Seriously, side by side,
(14:46):
line them up. What's the problem? I have everything? I literally
have everything. So what's the problemBecause Zicky Dice thinks he's better than he
is? No, No, youjust haven't seen Zicky Dice go. I
think some people just might be absolutelyintimidated by your aura, or they just
might see how you talk and theyjust know how confident you are. And
(15:07):
I'm done pleasing people. I'm donepleasing people. I don't give a shit
what anyone in the locker room thinksabout me. I don't give a shit
about because you know what I learned. I learned, like I said earlier,
snakes, snakes everywhere, snakes.And so it's time that I become
a snake myself and I get selfish. It's time that I take what I
(15:28):
want. I wanted to go aheadand ask you a question, and how
you know we talk about starts inprofessional wrestling. I was ringing up a
little bit about you, and kindof, just like everybody else, you
were a big fan of the ofthe product going up, growing up,
and I found this fun quote thatyou were in a kind of just like
me, you know, we yourmom used to tell you had to go
to bed and had to turn theTV off, but as soon as they
(15:50):
left, to turn it right backon and turn the volume all the way
down. In my case, alwaysswitched the huge settings and try to change
it to black and white just incase. I thought that that would make
it where they couldn't see the thingunder my door. And then it turned
out it seemed like your parents neverthought that you would really get into that.
Then you went and you know,started your own rock band. You
you were in the lead singer forthe Heart to Hearts and then you eventually
(16:12):
ended up blowing up and getting intothe wrestling business. What was it like,
you know, your inspiration from rockand I know, once again you're
a huge fan of wrestling, androck and wrestling ties into one another.
But when your rock career started,what kind of clicked into your mind and
just made you say, I'm gonnamake this jump to wrestling and I'm gonna
take this personality to wrestling because ittranslates very very well, well, thank
(16:33):
you. I mean, it's thesame circus, different game where I mean,
and that's what I've learned earlier.I'm very thankful for it. I
was able to do with my musiccareer and still not over. I still
manage a few bands on the sidethrough pin up artist management. Ziki Dice
actually just recorded his first single.I'll be shooting music video for here soon,
doing a little guys up, doinga little solo project, so that
(16:55):
be on the lookout for that.I don't know. It's it's it's it's
the drug I chase and it's ait's a very same drug. A lot
of people ask me, like,which do you prefer, and like,
I love music as much as Ilove wrestling, and it's and both of
them have been an outlet for mein a way for me to express myself.
And I don't know, I missit. There's there's aspects I miss,
(17:15):
and there's a lot of things Idon't miss m But I love that
the difference between music and wrestling.I love that I'm able to put all
my faith into myself. I don'thave to rely on anybody else, and
that's what's gotten me this far.Yeah, absolutely, zick. Yeah,
I want to I want to wrapup and just to get a couple we
like to do on the Baby Facesa little rapid fire. We've done this
(17:37):
with a couple of stars in thepast. We've had fun with Bobby Lashley
and even Mommy Ria Ripley. Sowhat I'm gonna do is just some just
some word associations. I'm just gonnasay. I'm just gonna say a sentence
something maybe means something to you andyou're just kind of first thing that kind
of pops your mind. You knowwhat that means to you? Now?
That was Since we're gonna sticking withthat music, hard rock and everything,
(17:59):
or just say any type of music. What is the best concert You've ever
attended? Best live concert, ZickyDice ever been to? Oh man,
Uh, first one that comes tomind would be Deaf Tones and Poison the
Well in San Jose. I wasprobably like fifteen, sixteen years old.
F Tones. Yes, that's uh, that's Glenn Danzig, right, Is
that is he from Deaf Tomes orwho am I thinking of? No?
(18:21):
No, uh, Chino? Youthinking Chino? Oh okay, yeah,
yeah, yeah, I know hewere talking about. See I think that.
Uh. We have a huge wehave a huge rock concert here in
Louisville called Louder than Life. Um. At the end of September. If
you happen to be kind of inthe if you happen to be kind of
in the area, let me know, well, well, well all these
gets you out to see all theserock bands? All right, next one,
we'll switch back to wrestling a littlebit. Favorite match you've ever had,
(18:45):
Zicki Dice versus Ricky Starts for theNBA Television Championship. What was it
like working with Ricky Starks? Thebest, the best? I want to
do it again, I penned tobefore I think I can do it again?
Now is it? Does he doeshe kind of hold that over?
Is he you think that he couldprobably invite you into the into the company
and be like business. Listen,listen, I gave my phone number out
(19:10):
on the show. People know whatI do and they know where to find
me. I'm not expecting anything fromanybody. One thing. I've always I'm
always interested to know in all differenttypes of wrestlers. What is your least
favorite move to take? You're gettingready to go out and line over the
top rope, clothes line over thetop rope? Is there any specifically?
It's the landing of it just it'sjust dangerous right going backwards. It sucks
(19:32):
as it's absolutely you can get yourarm, takle on the rope, break
your arm, hit your knee orshins on the apron. Getting clothes line
over the top rope backward sucks.And I also hate taking double stomps of
any sort of top off of thisoff to the ribs, to the back,
I don't to the head. Idon't like the double stomps. I'll
take them because I'm a fucking idiot. But and we'll finish it up.
And we kind of started this onthe show. It may have been the
(19:55):
one that we talked about. It'syour most painful tattoo, man, that
would have to be either my ribs, my elbow, or my hand.
The knuckles was actually very painting knuckles. Yes, are you addicted to tattoos?
Everyone's always like, I love gettingtattooed. It hurts like hell,
but I love getting tattooed. Ithink I might go and get some.
(20:18):
I don't know, I might getsome meat done before before you see me
next. You know, absolutely wemight be able to see your next Actually
coming up here soon. We actuallyhave Derby City Wrestling going on August eighth.
That's gonna be at the Nortons COMPLEXUSeighth. Right, I'm pretty sure
I believe it was the sixth ofthe eighth. Yes, so let me
just go ahead. Yes, No, it is a six, Daniel,
I got it all wrong. Itis the six at the Nortons, at
(20:40):
the Norton Sports Complex. It's aMuhammad Ali Boulevards brand, spanking new statius.
We put out a great show man. It's all ages. You get
to meet and Greek wrestlers. Yes, and uh, it's come on down
and see what we do. Andand I think a lot of people sleep
on the United Wrestling Network and it'sbeen around for a very long time,
and one hundred percent a lot ofstars that you know and love. Guess
(21:03):
what, They all came through theUnited Wrestling Network at some point. Absolutely,
And you know we're possibly starting andtalking to the next one. Who
knows. By this time, inanother two weeks, you can have a
couple of titles on. You couldbe Zicky two belts, you could be
Ziggy two guitars. You may evenhave a Hollywood deal by then. So
regardless of what it is, we'reexcited to see you guys want to check
him out. You can also checkout a bunch of other things going on
(21:26):
down there. It's gonna be atthe UWN taping and Louisville Sunday, August
sixth, and the main event isgonna be Danny Might Danny Limelight versus Moose
for the UW WIN title and you'redefinitely gonna see our man Zicky Dice down
there. Rickie, thank you forjoining us once again, and thank you
baby Listen listen. I made itnice and symbol for everyone. Listen to
follow this out everyone they call lifethe best is yet to come. Follow
(21:48):
me at Zicky Dice on every pieceof social media out there. Check out
my brand new website Ziki Dice dotcom, zic k Y Dice dot com
and drop a line. And I'mtelling you keep your eyes peeled. Austin.
I want to thank you so muchfor having me. I want to
apologize my blood pressure is a littlehigher than most interviews, but given the
circumstances, I think it's appropriate.That's fine. You heard it here the
(22:12):
Atlantist Zicki Dice. What is nextfor him? Stay tuned find out.
Thank you guys for listening this weekto the Baby Faces Podcast. We'll see
you next time
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