November 18, 2025 • 13 mins
The Ben and Skin Show dives headfirst into the Dallas Cowboys’ convincing win and the bizarre drama that unfolded before kickoff. Why were Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens mysteriously missing from the first series? Was it a power move by Brian Schottenheimer—or something deeper? The crew breaks down the sideline whispers, Jerry Jones’ poetic (and hilariously confusing) “opera and ballet” comparison, and why discipline matters even for star players.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fell of Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Surprise. So the Cowboys do win last night, very convincingly.
But there was nothing said about this before the game.
(00:24):
And the game starts and the Cowboys have the ball
and Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens are not on the field,
and Troy and Joe mentioned it. So I'm guessing they
had been tipped off, you know, unless they just quickly
noticed it.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Because I bet they got tipped off on the first play.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, maybe you just read the starting lineups and the
team You're like, okay, where are they at? And so
at least a salters the silent report gives the report
doesn't really give us any information. Here's Brian Schottenheimer after
the game when he was asked what happened there.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, again, it's it's it's tough, you know, what made
a coach's decision. There were some things that were missed,
and so I had a conversation with those guys.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And okay, you didn't mention the whole defense when they
missed all those tackles, you know, earlier in the season,
because those were a lot of things that were missed tackles.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
And that was easy. But I mean, you look at
the energy those guys play with.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
And then he talked himself out of it. Do you
guys have a problem with him laying the hammer down. No,
I think it's great.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I think it sets a good example that if your
best players are going to be late or not show
up for meetings, I'm assuming that's what it was, or
maybe it was the flight, maybe it was some travel
check in or whatever. You can't give them preferential treatment.
And at the same time, it wasn't super harsh, like
they were out the first play, but they were really
out the whole first series, weren't they? Yeah, which was
(01:47):
three out quick punt without them in with they're their
whole offense.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Let me give you some quick perspective on someone that
watched the game after it happened. So I had MAVs duty,
so we had the game on, but I don't have
the sound up, so I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm like, man three and out? Good God.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
And then I got home and watched the game and
they're explaining that, and so my first thought is, oh, wow,
so this is what led to the three and out.
Neither guy is out on the field, and so it's
pretty funny, like when you're going to, you know, aw down.
I wonder if he had hopes of laying it down
further later in the game, had they not gone three
and out. Man, I saw him over there like messing around,
(02:28):
tickling them. At one point in the game he ran
over them, was hugging them and laughing with him like.
I just think it was symbolic.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Really, I just think it was a all right, man,
you guys don't get to start, and we're not gonna
give you any preferential treatment. But there's a lot that
I like that they were both like suspended for one
play or one series. Now they were goofing off together
building chemistry. That's great, And I think it does set
that president where you're like, all right, if your best players,
you know, if you can't just let them slide and
(02:54):
then go like penalize some guy who sucks.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Agree.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I think it's great that you were able to do that.
I all, so if you lose that game last night,
I think it's horrible. I here the team that had
the White House. We don't have to oh, they don't
have to like toe the line for the night. And
you know, you're the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Let's see if George Pickens learned his lesson. Here was
his quote, how come you're out on the first series?
Certain personnel we kind we kind of thought they were
gonna come out in a certain way, but they didn't.
They started kind of hunching down on the run. So
we started throwing it around a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Uh So then they.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Follow back up with him, and when he's told that,
Schottenheimer already told everybody is because of those other reasons.
That's just like between me and Shoddy.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Honestly, here's the here's a follow up that shot he
had after his uh you know, here's how here's how
that quote ended real quick.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Well, I love those guys, man, and uh again, this
was a great team win.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Okay, So follow up meetings.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Coutle things missed, A couple of things missed.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Now. This morning over on the Fan, Jerry Jones said
that it had to do with meeting type discipline and
that they had a late problem there. Now, George Pickens
has a little bit of a history of being having
a late problem. Let's go back to Christmas Day of
last year for the Steelers, when Mike Tomlin told every
player to be there at least two hours before kickoff
(04:22):
and he comes walking in about an hour and twenty
five minutes before kickoff. Traffic, bro, there's been a team
plane issue with him not getting there in time.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Like, dude, George Pickens, if.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You're signing up for it, you gotta go with the
highs and the lows and kind of think Schottenheimer can
handle that.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, that's the way to handle it. It's kind of
like does Bryant.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah, he's never going to be on time, and you
know you need to penalize him and punish him, not
so much that you lose him, but enough that you
send a message.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And it's just going to be like that.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Receivers are interesting creatures because they're divas by nature, and
also on plays where they're not involved, sometimes they don't try.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
It's crazy. It's just such a such an outlier.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I want them to sign him just for the sheer,
you know, entertainment factor of what who knows what's going
to happen with him.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I mean, I bet he starts really making meetings on
time once he's paid.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Do you want to hear what Jerry said about him
after the game, Because I thought Jerry conflated a lot
of different types of arts into this this is very weird.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Pickings was. I've never seen a performance like that, and
it was poetic the way that he was making those moves.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Out there and do it, and it was like he
was in an opera or.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Something going on about to a ballet.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Opera and ballet are way different, right, like way different.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, there's not really dancing an opera.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Yeah, he was like one of the great tenors out there,
really hitting them high note ballet.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Saying when he scored that touchdown, he was.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Trying to say it was a work of art, and
then he just got carried away, kind of like when
that one time Norm Hnskis named all the great painters
and they were composers.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Mozar Right, Well, the mount's open and I can't stop
it from going, so I keep saying.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Words, Charlotte, come in here and talk for a minute.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
All right, coming up next, we'll keep this going because
the Dallas Cowboys now find themselves officially in the hunt
once again. We'll have that discussion in three minutes. So
do not go anywhere but.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Anan skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle. Is
it a good idea to pull a prank on a church?
We've got audio of that coming up at the bottom
of the hour. But let's keep cussing the Cowboys going,
shall we. As we're talking about last night's decisive Dallas
Cowboys win and kt what did that do for them
in the playoff hunt?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Well, if you look at the Cowboys playoff chances going
into last night, they were about a seven percent chance
of getting in.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yes, so getting that win was huge.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
If you go beat the Eagles next week, you have
a fourteen percent chance of making the playoffs. So thanks
of the time, things are starting to look pretty interesting,
I would say. And this is the time of year,
right around thanks Giving. We see this every year with
the Cowboys. The graphic comes up and the Cowboys are
in the in the hunt.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
It's it's they're always there.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It's it's every year, and it's such a gift for
every sports talk show in our entire industry. If the
Cowboys are barely alive, and Jerry Jones loves every bit
of it, and man, it sucks that they dug themselves
this much of a hole. But if you if you
squint really hard, and you're like, okay, they've got three
(07:30):
dominant defensive tackles now, so maybe they can stop the run.
I mean, I don't even know how we got here.
You've got three dominant defensive tackles, and you know what,
you've got a bunch of reinforcements coming. Aserraku is playing
really well. As we've pointed out all year, he's kind
of coming into his own. Clowney is looking good. I've
(07:50):
heard brought us talking about Kayln Carson quite a bit.
He had a couple of good plays last night. He's
looking good. And so you look at all these reinforcements
to the defense. Quentnin Williams Logan, Wilson, harveyon overshown his back,
you got your safeties back, and Wilson and hooker Schevon
Revel Junior looked really good out there. So I mean
you can squint really hard and go, okay, well, whatever
this defense was the first year, they're gonna be better
(08:13):
than that. And you know what, they're one of the
best offenses in the league. So sure they could run
the table or maybe lose just one more game. I mean,
it's it's very possible, but really it all comes down
to this Sunday against Philly, because if they win that game,
we're gonna start playing in parade routes.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It's it's fun. The problem is that Philly is eight
and two. Now, I had forgotten the year that they
traded for Amari Cooper.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
They were three and five.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
What year was that, twenty seventeen. I think I don't
remember the exact year.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I just remember last night on the broadcast, Troy was
saying they were three and five, traded for Amari Cooper
and went on a run, got to ten and six.
I was twenty eighteen, okay, got to ten and six
and then won a divisional game.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Now, yeah, the problem for the Cowboys is that the
three teams that are in the wild Card they've already
lost to and so they don't have they don't have.
I mean, Carolina ended up being a pretty good team.
They're sitting there, what are they It's just six and five,
six and five. Chicago keeps winning, So those losses quote
unquote look better if you want to look at it
(09:15):
that way. The Arizona loss obviously is butthole. But man,
they're uh, they're they're good enough to quote unquote be
in the hunt. It's just that hole early on makes
it so very very tough. If they go six and
one early in I think they are, so yeah, if
(09:35):
they get to so if they end up they really
that would be ten six and one.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, the two teams that are in the in the
hunt category with them are the Lions and the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
The Lions, will they play the Lions?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, the lines will get in the lines are the
lines are solid. The Panthers will not, though, So I
need two teams that are in right now to bounce
out Wall.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
How do you know the Panthers? How came you're giving
up on them?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I don't think they're a good Well.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
That's just a me.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
They're currently six and five and they hold the tiebreaker
with us. Yeah, hey they beat my team. The Packers
like there.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, but just I'm just for the sake of it,
just being realistic of what we might think about these teams.
I need two teams that are currently in the fallout.
The Lion's getting in and the Bears coming out one
hundred percent can predict that, and then you would need
like a Seattle or San Francisco to jump out, dude,
Sam Darnold, and then San Francisco is weirdly's just.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So playing well, yeah, they're playing well. So there is
a chance.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
The problem is, I think is you have the Eagles
I think is the most beatable of the next three games.
And then you have the most desperate team in the world,
the Kansas City Chiefs on things. They are five and
five and are currently out of the playoffs. And then
you have the Lions, who will be you know, very tough.
And that game's in Detroit, I believe as well. If
you go it is it is in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
But if you, I mean this, this gauntlet right here
is pretty fierce Philly, Case and Detroit. And if you
I mean, look, if you want to be a true contender,
these are games you should be able to go win
if that's who you really are. And all it really
comes down to is can they shore up their defense?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
That's it. And I mean.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Quentin Williams is their best player on defense now, right, Yeah,
so he's gonna I mean, he came into the to
this game with one point five sacks on the season.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
He had that last night. Yeah, in one game.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Every guy, every one of the new guys that we
played last night had a moment.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Even Molie Hooker ye had a moment or two. He
had a couple of moments.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Logan Wilson, even like when Gino Smith Misstrey Tucker Logan,
Wilson got.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Ran by, but he was in the one man. I
thought Wilson looked bad. He looked like a guy that
was on skates. I mean, I didn't like hyper focus
on him. But there was two plays that stood out
were on crossing routes where I was like, who is
that guy? And then I pause, went oh okay, and look.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
The Raiders suck, but you can't style point wins and
then this league, you gotta take a win. And it
could have been just what the doctor ordered to get
everything back on track. But I mean, we always say
that about like we see even say this about the Mavericks.
If Kyrie comes back and eighty is healthy, then nobody
wants to face them. If the Cowboys square away their defense,
nobody wants any part of that now, because they could
(12:11):
put up a forty burger.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
They've only had They've only had two really bad games,
the Bears and the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I'm dying to know why they couldn't get a deal
done with Micah and the Jets before the season started.
I know it's different because now car looks really good too.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
No, but I read that it was because of the
contract issue. The Jets didn't want to pay Micah what
he wanted. Yeah, okay, that's what That's what I read it.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, and they've got they've got Aaron Rodgers cap money
that they're dealing with. Yeah, so that would make sense. Uh,
very nice though, very good win. You take it, you
know what, But Philly's so beatable.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
But I think to Ben's point, if you and I
mean really, if you went too and one in the stretch,
you're still alive and you're incredibly confident. The good thing
is is if you can and even if you go
one and one in the next two, you get ten
days off to recoup and build up and get better
and feel better. That's nice the way the Thanksgiving thing
(13:05):
always works out. If you can beat Philly on Sunday,
you're gonna feel so, I might say you. I mean,
the team is going to feel so wildly different about themselves.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It's just gonna be a lot of fun to be
a Cowboy fan over this next little stretch, for sure. So,
and they finished the year at Washington and at the Giants,
and both those teams are going to be terrible and
out of it.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And trying to lose. So anyways, the cowboys are very
much in the hunt all right.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Coming up next in the weekly Weekday Update, a lady
pranks a local church and records it.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
We've got the audio. Don't miss it. It's next
Fell of Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Surprise. So the Cowboys do win last night, very convincingly.
But there was nothing said about this before the game.
(00:24):
And the game starts and the Cowboys have the ball
and Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens are not on the field,
and Troy and Joe mentioned it. So I'm guessing they
had been tipped off, you know, unless they just quickly
noticed it.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Because I bet they got tipped off on the first play.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, maybe you just read the starting lineups and the
team You're like, okay, where are they at? And so
at least a salters the silent report gives the report
doesn't really give us any information. Here's Brian Schottenheimer after
the game when he was asked what happened there.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, again, it's it's it's tough, you know, what made
a coach's decision. There were some things that were missed,
and so I had a conversation with those guys.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And okay, you didn't mention the whole defense when they
missed all those tackles, you know, earlier in the season,
because those were a lot of things that were missed tackles.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
And that was easy. But I mean, you look at
the energy those guys play with.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
And then he talked himself out of it. Do you
guys have a problem with him laying the hammer down. No,
I think it's great.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I think it sets a good example that if your
best players are going to be late or not show
up for meetings, I'm assuming that's what it was, or
maybe it was the flight, maybe it was some travel
check in or whatever. You can't give them preferential treatment.
And at the same time, it wasn't super harsh, like
they were out the first play, but they were really
out the whole first series, weren't they? Yeah, which was
(01:47):
three out quick punt without them in with they're their
whole offense.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Let me give you some quick perspective on someone that
watched the game after it happened. So I had MAVs duty,
so we had the game on, but I don't have
the sound up, so I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm like, man three and out? Good God.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
And then I got home and watched the game and
they're explaining that, and so my first thought is, oh, wow,
so this is what led to the three and out.
Neither guy is out on the field, and so it's
pretty funny, like when you're going to, you know, aw down.
I wonder if he had hopes of laying it down
further later in the game, had they not gone three
and out. Man, I saw him over there like messing around,
(02:28):
tickling them. At one point in the game he ran
over them, was hugging them and laughing with him like.
I just think it was symbolic.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Really, I just think it was a all right, man,
you guys don't get to start, and we're not gonna
give you any preferential treatment. But there's a lot that
I like that they were both like suspended for one
play or one series. Now they were goofing off together
building chemistry. That's great, And I think it does set
that president where you're like, all right, if your best players,
you know, if you can't just let them slide and
(02:54):
then go like penalize some guy who sucks.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Agree.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I think it's great that you were able to do that.
I all, so if you lose that game last night,
I think it's horrible. I here the team that had
the White House. We don't have to oh, they don't
have to like toe the line for the night. And
you know, you're the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Let's see if George Pickens learned his lesson. Here was
his quote, how come you're out on the first series?
Certain personnel we kind we kind of thought they were
gonna come out in a certain way, but they didn't.
They started kind of hunching down on the run. So
we started throwing it around a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Uh So then they.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Follow back up with him, and when he's told that,
Schottenheimer already told everybody is because of those other reasons.
That's just like between me and Shoddy.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Honestly, here's the here's a follow up that shot he
had after his uh you know, here's how here's how
that quote ended real quick.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Well, I love those guys, man, and uh again, this
was a great team win.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Okay, So follow up meetings.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Coutle things missed, A couple of things missed.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Now. This morning over on the Fan, Jerry Jones said
that it had to do with meeting type discipline and
that they had a late problem there. Now, George Pickens
has a little bit of a history of being having
a late problem. Let's go back to Christmas Day of
last year for the Steelers, when Mike Tomlin told every
player to be there at least two hours before kickoff
(04:22):
and he comes walking in about an hour and twenty
five minutes before kickoff. Traffic, bro, there's been a team
plane issue with him not getting there in time.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Like, dude, George Pickens, if.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You're signing up for it, you gotta go with the
highs and the lows and kind of think Schottenheimer can
handle that.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, that's the way to handle it. It's kind of
like does Bryant.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah, he's never going to be on time, and you
know you need to penalize him and punish him, not
so much that you lose him, but enough that you
send a message.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And it's just going to be like that.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Receivers are interesting creatures because they're divas by nature, and
also on plays where they're not involved, sometimes they don't try.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
It's crazy. It's just such a such an outlier.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I want them to sign him just for the sheer,
you know, entertainment factor of what who knows what's going
to happen with him.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I mean, I bet he starts really making meetings on
time once he's paid.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Do you want to hear what Jerry said about him
after the game, Because I thought Jerry conflated a lot
of different types of arts into this this is very weird.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Pickings was. I've never seen a performance like that, and
it was poetic the way that he was making those moves.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Out there and do it, and it was like he
was in an opera or.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Something going on about to a ballet.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Opera and ballet are way different, right, like way different.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, there's not really dancing an opera.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Yeah, he was like one of the great tenors out there,
really hitting them high note ballet.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Saying when he scored that touchdown, he was.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Trying to say it was a work of art, and
then he just got carried away, kind of like when
that one time Norm Hnskis named all the great painters
and they were composers.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Mozar Right, Well, the mount's open and I can't stop
it from going, so I keep saying.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Words, Charlotte, come in here and talk for a minute.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
All right, coming up next, we'll keep this going because
the Dallas Cowboys now find themselves officially in the hunt
once again. We'll have that discussion in three minutes. So
do not go anywhere but.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Anan skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle. Is
it a good idea to pull a prank on a church?
We've got audio of that coming up at the bottom
of the hour. But let's keep cussing the Cowboys going,
shall we. As we're talking about last night's decisive Dallas
Cowboys win and kt what did that do for them
in the playoff hunt?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Well, if you look at the Cowboys playoff chances going
into last night, they were about a seven percent chance
of getting in.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yes, so getting that win was huge.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
If you go beat the Eagles next week, you have
a fourteen percent chance of making the playoffs. So thanks
of the time, things are starting to look pretty interesting,
I would say. And this is the time of year,
right around thanks Giving. We see this every year with
the Cowboys. The graphic comes up and the Cowboys are
in the in the hunt.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
It's it's they're always there.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It's it's every year, and it's such a gift for
every sports talk show in our entire industry. If the
Cowboys are barely alive, and Jerry Jones loves every bit
of it, and man, it sucks that they dug themselves
this much of a hole. But if you if you
squint really hard, and you're like, okay, they've got three
(07:30):
dominant defensive tackles now, so maybe they can stop the run.
I mean, I don't even know how we got here.
You've got three dominant defensive tackles, and you know what,
you've got a bunch of reinforcements coming. Aserraku is playing
really well. As we've pointed out all year, he's kind
of coming into his own. Clowney is looking good. I've
(07:50):
heard brought us talking about Kayln Carson quite a bit.
He had a couple of good plays last night. He's
looking good. And so you look at all these reinforcements
to the defense. Quentnin Williams Logan, Wilson, harveyon overshown his back,
you got your safeties back, and Wilson and hooker Schevon
Revel Junior looked really good out there. So I mean
you can squint really hard and go, okay, well, whatever
this defense was the first year, they're gonna be better
(08:13):
than that. And you know what, they're one of the
best offenses in the league. So sure they could run
the table or maybe lose just one more game. I mean,
it's it's very possible, but really it all comes down
to this Sunday against Philly, because if they win that game,
we're gonna start playing in parade routes.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It's it's fun. The problem is that Philly is eight
and two. Now, I had forgotten the year that they
traded for Amari Cooper.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
They were three and five.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
What year was that, twenty seventeen. I think I don't
remember the exact year.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I just remember last night on the broadcast, Troy was
saying they were three and five, traded for Amari Cooper
and went on a run, got to ten and six.
I was twenty eighteen, okay, got to ten and six
and then won a divisional game.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Now, yeah, the problem for the Cowboys is that the
three teams that are in the wild Card they've already
lost to and so they don't have they don't have.
I mean, Carolina ended up being a pretty good team.
They're sitting there, what are they It's just six and five,
six and five. Chicago keeps winning, So those losses quote
unquote look better if you want to look at it
(09:15):
that way. The Arizona loss obviously is butthole. But man,
they're uh, they're they're good enough to quote unquote be
in the hunt. It's just that hole early on makes
it so very very tough. If they go six and
one early in I think they are, so yeah, if
(09:35):
they get to so if they end up they really
that would be ten six and one.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, the two teams that are in the in the
hunt category with them are the Lions and the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
The Lions, will they play the Lions?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, the lines will get in the lines are the
lines are solid. The Panthers will not, though, So I
need two teams that are in right now to bounce
out Wall.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
How do you know the Panthers? How came you're giving
up on them?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I don't think they're a good Well.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
That's just a me.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
They're currently six and five and they hold the tiebreaker
with us. Yeah, hey they beat my team. The Packers
like there.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, but just I'm just for the sake of it,
just being realistic of what we might think about these teams.
I need two teams that are currently in the fallout.
The Lion's getting in and the Bears coming out one
hundred percent can predict that, and then you would need
like a Seattle or San Francisco to jump out, dude,
Sam Darnold, and then San Francisco is weirdly's just.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So playing well, yeah, they're playing well. So there is
a chance.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
The problem is, I think is you have the Eagles
I think is the most beatable of the next three games.
And then you have the most desperate team in the world,
the Kansas City Chiefs on things. They are five and
five and are currently out of the playoffs. And then
you have the Lions, who will be you know, very tough.
And that game's in Detroit, I believe as well. If
you go it is it is in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
But if you, I mean this, this gauntlet right here
is pretty fierce Philly, Case and Detroit. And if you
I mean, look, if you want to be a true contender,
these are games you should be able to go win
if that's who you really are. And all it really
comes down to is can they shore up their defense?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
That's it. And I mean.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Quentin Williams is their best player on defense now, right, Yeah,
so he's gonna I mean, he came into the to
this game with one point five sacks on the season.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
He had that last night. Yeah, in one game.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Every guy, every one of the new guys that we
played last night had a moment.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Even Molie Hooker ye had a moment or two. He
had a couple of moments.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Logan Wilson, even like when Gino Smith Misstrey Tucker Logan,
Wilson got.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Ran by, but he was in the one man. I
thought Wilson looked bad. He looked like a guy that
was on skates. I mean, I didn't like hyper focus
on him. But there was two plays that stood out
were on crossing routes where I was like, who is
that guy? And then I pause, went oh okay, and look.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
The Raiders suck, but you can't style point wins and
then this league, you gotta take a win. And it
could have been just what the doctor ordered to get
everything back on track. But I mean, we always say
that about like we see even say this about the Mavericks.
If Kyrie comes back and eighty is healthy, then nobody
wants to face them. If the Cowboys square away their defense,
nobody wants any part of that now, because they could
(12:11):
put up a forty burger.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
They've only had They've only had two really bad games,
the Bears and the Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I'm dying to know why they couldn't get a deal
done with Micah and the Jets before the season started.
I know it's different because now car looks really good too.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
No, but I read that it was because of the
contract issue. The Jets didn't want to pay Micah what
he wanted. Yeah, okay, that's what That's what I read it.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, and they've got they've got Aaron Rodgers cap money
that they're dealing with. Yeah, so that would make sense. Uh,
very nice though, very good win. You take it, you
know what, But Philly's so beatable.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
But I think to Ben's point, if you and I
mean really, if you went too and one in the stretch,
you're still alive and you're incredibly confident. The good thing
is is if you can and even if you go
one and one in the next two, you get ten
days off to recoup and build up and get better
and feel better. That's nice the way the Thanksgiving thing
(13:05):
always works out. If you can beat Philly on Sunday,
you're gonna feel so, I might say you. I mean,
the team is going to feel so wildly different about themselves.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It's just gonna be a lot of fun to be
a Cowboy fan over this next little stretch, for sure. So,
and they finished the year at Washington and at the Giants,
and both those teams are going to be terrible and
out of it.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And trying to lose. So anyways, the cowboys are very
much in the hunt all right.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Coming up next in the weekly Weekday Update, a lady
pranks a local church and records it.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
We've got the audio. Don't miss it. It's next
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