October 20, 2025 • 13 mins
Despite eight proposals having been produced...none of the proposals aligned directly with Governor DeSantis’s call for an end to all homesteaded property taxes.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, thanks for listening, and welcome back to the Brian
Mud Show. Time now for today's Top three takeaways day
he there, have you had a great weekend? Another beautiful
one for sure. Have an end to homestead at property taxes?
Oh that's right, it's not in Daniel Perez's plans. That's
(00:25):
the theme of my takeaways, along with news of the
day from around the world, and also you know, welcoming
Joel back for from his vacation. Spent a lot of time,
you know, in the lead up to Saturday snow Kings festivities.
He had a lot of a lot of the pre
planning and coordination.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
These people, look, it's it's within their rights. I just
I was watching all the coverage. I was actually in Orlando,
and I did not pass any of these things in Orlando,
and I know that we're going on, and I know
that we're going There were several here in Palm Beach
County and the Treasure Coast. But I'm just looking at
the coverage on the news and I'm just going, Wow,
(01:06):
I could just think of a lot better ways to
spend my time.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I saw more boats with Trump flags going to and
from mar Alago than I than I saw protesters. Now
that's also because I didn't go where the malcontents were
by where I was was out back and join wine
with my wonderful wife, and the only people on the
water were Trumpers that were going in their boats around
mar A Lago and trolling the UH, the the mail contents.
(01:35):
But anyway, as we dive into my tap my top
three takeaways for today, we'll actually get into it first
with the partial government shutdown and how this whole thing
has been orchestrated. Fox's Grnald Scott.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Arizona Democratic Senator Mark Kelly says, if Republicans work with them,
the government could reopen in short order. If healthcare concerns
are on the front end.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
We should be able to wrap this up this week
if they will sit down and have a negotiation with
us different tone than last week already. And this was
something that I had mentioned that there were a lot
of reasons why Democrats were not going to do anything
differently last week than they had done previously pertaining to
the partial government shutdown, and it did have to do
(02:22):
with the no Kings nonsense. So as I have outlined
throughout the course of this year, when you've had these
contrived No Kings events. And by the way, the whole
No Kings thing, again, this is not organic. None of
it has been the reason that you have to side
up and you have all the organizations around the country.
(02:44):
It is the Tides Foundation that's behind it, It's the
Open Society Foundation, it's George Soris's group. They're the ones
that have been funding this is it from the very beginning.
And as I pointed out, the very first politician involved
in No Kings was none other than Chuck you Schumer.
It was Chuck Schumer who proposed the No Kings Act
(03:06):
in August of last year, that an unsuccessful effort to
overturn the Supreme Court's presidential immunity ruin. And so that
was the kind of the backdrop to this. So was
Chuck Schumer who was the first one to propose a
no Kings anything. Was he going to let Senate Democrats
in the partial shutdown last week. No, he wanted to
(03:27):
try to lever it and to make it as soon
as though people cared, and the No Kings thing in
all that, and so now that we're beyond it, you're
hearing already a different tone from Senate Democrats we'll see
what happens this week. So my top takeaway is proposed
property tax relief in Tallahassee. And while the focus on
(03:48):
government affairs remains on the partial shutdown, as we have
now instructively completed nearly three weeks with thirty four percent
of the federal government offline, the most still haven't even noticed.
There is a notice that begins to come to an
under two weeks that every Floridian feels in some form
or fashion. That is the impact of property taxes. You know,
(04:10):
some people rent feel the impact of property taxes through
consistently rising rates. Some people make a mortgage payment, notice
the impact through an escrow payment. Most common, seventy percent
of properties in Florida do haves grow and some people
own their home outright and see quite clearly the increases
every year when they cut checks to November first. That
(04:31):
is the opening of the window for property tax season,
when early payments during early months can earn discounted rates
on property tax payments starting at a four percent discount
in November, and so that is when most payments for
property taxes are made. Thirty percent of all property taxes
in Florida are paid during the month of November December
(04:51):
is the second most common month of just over twenty percent,
so by the end of the year, over half of
all property taxes are paid. Now Florida gets it's a
lot of things right when it comes to taxes. However,
where our state ranks lowest is with the roof over
your head. Overall, Florida ranks twenty third for property taxation.
We selects counties and municipalities ranking far worse. For example,
(05:15):
only six percent of the country pays higher property tax
rates than what is paid for by the average property
tax property owner in Palm Beach County. And the theme
for Governor DeSantis's final state session, his last major policy
push to permanently reshape the free state of Florida is
to really provide freedom for you to own your home
(05:38):
without the risk of government compensate confiscation of your property,
without annually paying ever rising property tax payments. And as
Governor DeSantis is outlined, and as we talked about, it's
completely doable. It's completely doable to do away with home
stead of property taxes if local governments in general just
(05:59):
went back to spending their pre COVID at twenty nineteen
levels in inflation adjusted dollars, which is important to note.
All that has to happen here is to go back
to the way local governments are operating in twenty nineteen,
and you do not need home seat of property taxes
in the state of Florida. So the question isn't if
it can be done, but whether it will be done.
(06:22):
That's my second takeaway. Before we get there, take a
look at the latest out of Gaza.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Israel launched strikes at Hamas on Sunday after seeing its
troops at Coul under attack by gunfire and an anti
tank missile. Dozens of Palestinians and two Israeli soldiers reported dead.
Hamas insists it's committed to the cease fire and accuses
Israel of violations. It also says the Israelis are arming
and financing criminal gangs. The Israel Defense Forces say they
(06:50):
have now renewed enforcement of the truce. President Donald Trump
has sent to his Special envoy Steve Whitkoff and son
in law Jared Kushner to Israel in an attempt to
keep the deal on track.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Right, So it was always going to be difficult, and
we knew this. The new regime trying to get a
new government in place, push out Hamas, get to that
second part, and it's proving to be difficult. Nevertheless, all
side still saying yes, the peace deal is there, We're
just having to deal with some of the factions of Hamas.
(07:24):
So we shall see now talking about property taxes in Florida,
that it is entirely possible to eliminate homesteaded property taxes
if local governments would just simply go back to the
way they operated in twenty nineteen. But the question is
will it be done, because aside from likely having every
(07:45):
taxing authority in the state opposed to an end to
the status quo tax and spend mindset that's been in
place ever since the end of the Great Recession fourteen
years ago, and with any proposals having to receive a
maximum of our minimum me should save sixty percent support
from voters next November as a proposed constitutional amendment. There's
(08:06):
actually the matter of the state legislature at hand. This
is the first piece that must come come together here.
If we've learned anything this year about what goes on
in tallahas He, it's that a who the speaker of
the state houses matters and b Daniel Perez, the current speaker,
is a perpetual thorn in the side of Governor Desantus' plans,
(08:30):
and it looks like the debate for property taxes is
going to be no different. I was really interested to
see whether Perez would kind of put put everything behind
them and move forward this year. The answer is no.
The answer is no. Late last week four to House
Speaker Daniel Perez announced eight property tax relief proposals that'll
be under consideration before the legislature when next year's session
(08:53):
kicks off in January.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
There are two.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Dynamics of this. Having eight different plans to end property
taxes means a couple of things. You will be voting
on property tax relief next November. But there's something else,
and I'll get to that here momentarily. So that'll be
my third takeaway today. But first, the other piece deal
that the President is working on, the one that's proven
(09:17):
to be the most challenging. Fox's Cornel Scott.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Ukraine would use the long range Tomahawk missiles to help
counter Russian attacks on its energy infrastructure. On Fox's Sunday
Morning Futures, President Trump said.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I spoke with Vladimir Putin about it, not that he
would be thrilled.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It's a violent, vicious weapon.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But we have to remember one thing.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
We need him for ourselves too.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Ukraine President Vladimir Zelenski on NBC's Meet the Press set
of President Trump not committing to the missiles.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's good that President Trump didn't say no, but for
today didn't say yes. Okay, so monitor that throughout the
course of the week. My third takeaway today you will
be voting on property tax relief next November. However, what
we see coming out of the House is that there
(10:09):
is far from a consensus in the state legislature regarding
what property tax relief should be, most notably to me,
and this is about like the most Daniel Press thing ever.
Despite eight proposals eight having been produced, not one of them,
not one aligned directly with Governor Dcentsus' call brun into
all homesteaded property taxes. That's fun. The two closest proposals
(10:35):
include one that would end nonschool property taxes, while another
would exempd hoe out or sixty five and older. And
that doesn't mean that in the end that will be
the result. De Santas has threatened to call a special
session just before nextnumber's primaries put maximal and pressure on
state legislators to put a full property tax relief proposal
(10:55):
for homestead of properties on the table if it hasn't
been passed then, But it does mean that the starting
point legislation legislatively, with a session that's set to begin
in January, does not currently include that plan. And you
think about it, I mean, you're going to come up
with eight different proposals to consider, and now one of
(11:16):
them is going to be with the governor. As for
I mean, that seems highly intentional. House Speaker Daniel Prez
said this in addressing the eight plans. The ultimate decision
on what should happen with property taxes belongs not with
elected officials but with the people of Florida. Well, that's
(11:37):
true because anything that passes would have to be passed
by voters next November. But in the meantime that's not
at all true, because you're going to decide what it
is that we get a vote on. It's up to
the legislature to end up enacting the policy that will
make a decision about So beyond frustrating to me that
(12:05):
with this historical opportunity on the table. We got a
Speaker of the House in the state of Florida who won't,
with eight different proposals, even make one of them what
decentis has called on for them to do to a
truly allow you to own your home as opposed to
borrowing it from a myriad of taxing authorities that gleefully
claim to own a piece of the roof of your family.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Said.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Now, it's worth mentioning that pragmatism may be playing out
in this process. For example, is it more likely that
sixty percent of Lordians would vote for ending property taxes
that exclude schools and ending them permanently. Maybe, so that's
something to consider in the process too. But for now
(12:47):
we're once again into place, entering Governor d Santus his
final legislative session, with House Speaker Daniel Prez not putting
forward a proposal for consideration. That is the governor's top
issue heading into it.
Hey, thanks for listening, and welcome back to the Brian
Mud Show. Time now for today's Top three takeaways day
he there, have you had a great weekend? Another beautiful
one for sure. Have an end to homestead at property taxes?
Oh that's right, it's not in Daniel Perez's plans. That's
(00:25):
the theme of my takeaways, along with news of the
day from around the world, and also you know, welcoming
Joel back for from his vacation. Spent a lot of time,
you know, in the lead up to Saturday snow Kings festivities.
He had a lot of a lot of the pre
planning and coordination.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
These people, look, it's it's within their rights. I just
I was watching all the coverage. I was actually in Orlando,
and I did not pass any of these things in Orlando,
and I know that we're going on, and I know
that we're going There were several here in Palm Beach
County and the Treasure Coast. But I'm just looking at
the coverage on the news and I'm just going, Wow,
(01:06):
I could just think of a lot better ways to
spend my time.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I saw more boats with Trump flags going to and
from mar Alago than I than I saw protesters. Now
that's also because I didn't go where the malcontents were
by where I was was out back and join wine
with my wonderful wife, and the only people on the
water were Trumpers that were going in their boats around
mar A Lago and trolling the UH, the the mail contents.
(01:35):
But anyway, as we dive into my tap my top
three takeaways for today, we'll actually get into it first
with the partial government shutdown and how this whole thing
has been orchestrated. Fox's Grnald Scott.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Arizona Democratic Senator Mark Kelly says, if Republicans work with them,
the government could reopen in short order. If healthcare concerns
are on the front end.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
We should be able to wrap this up this week
if they will sit down and have a negotiation with
us different tone than last week already. And this was
something that I had mentioned that there were a lot
of reasons why Democrats were not going to do anything
differently last week than they had done previously pertaining to
the partial government shutdown, and it did have to do
(02:22):
with the no Kings nonsense. So as I have outlined
throughout the course of this year, when you've had these
contrived No Kings events. And by the way, the whole
No Kings thing, again, this is not organic. None of
it has been the reason that you have to side
up and you have all the organizations around the country.
(02:44):
It is the Tides Foundation that's behind it, It's the
Open Society Foundation, it's George Soris's group. They're the ones
that have been funding this is it from the very beginning.
And as I pointed out, the very first politician involved
in No Kings was none other than Chuck you Schumer.
It was Chuck Schumer who proposed the No Kings Act
(03:06):
in August of last year, that an unsuccessful effort to
overturn the Supreme Court's presidential immunity ruin. And so that
was the kind of the backdrop to this. So was
Chuck Schumer who was the first one to propose a
no Kings anything. Was he going to let Senate Democrats
in the partial shutdown last week. No, he wanted to
(03:27):
try to lever it and to make it as soon
as though people cared, and the No Kings thing in
all that, and so now that we're beyond it, you're
hearing already a different tone from Senate Democrats we'll see
what happens this week. So my top takeaway is proposed
property tax relief in Tallahassee. And while the focus on
(03:48):
government affairs remains on the partial shutdown, as we have
now instructively completed nearly three weeks with thirty four percent
of the federal government offline, the most still haven't even noticed.
There is a notice that begins to come to an
under two weeks that every Floridian feels in some form
or fashion. That is the impact of property taxes. You know,
(04:10):
some people rent feel the impact of property taxes through
consistently rising rates. Some people make a mortgage payment, notice
the impact through an escrow payment. Most common, seventy percent
of properties in Florida do haves grow and some people
own their home outright and see quite clearly the increases
every year when they cut checks to November first. That
(04:31):
is the opening of the window for property tax season,
when early payments during early months can earn discounted rates
on property tax payments starting at a four percent discount
in November, and so that is when most payments for
property taxes are made. Thirty percent of all property taxes
in Florida are paid during the month of November December
(04:51):
is the second most common month of just over twenty percent,
so by the end of the year, over half of
all property taxes are paid. Now Florida gets it's a
lot of things right when it comes to taxes. However,
where our state ranks lowest is with the roof over
your head. Overall, Florida ranks twenty third for property taxation.
We selects counties and municipalities ranking far worse. For example,
(05:15):
only six percent of the country pays higher property tax
rates than what is paid for by the average property
tax property owner in Palm Beach County. And the theme
for Governor DeSantis's final state session, his last major policy
push to permanently reshape the free state of Florida is
to really provide freedom for you to own your home
(05:38):
without the risk of government compensate confiscation of your property,
without annually paying ever rising property tax payments. And as
Governor DeSantis is outlined, and as we talked about, it's
completely doable. It's completely doable to do away with home
stead of property taxes if local governments in general just
(05:59):
went back to spending their pre COVID at twenty nineteen
levels in inflation adjusted dollars, which is important to note.
All that has to happen here is to go back
to the way local governments are operating in twenty nineteen,
and you do not need home seat of property taxes
in the state of Florida. So the question isn't if
it can be done, but whether it will be done.
(06:22):
That's my second takeaway. Before we get there, take a
look at the latest out of Gaza.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Israel launched strikes at Hamas on Sunday after seeing its
troops at Coul under attack by gunfire and an anti
tank missile. Dozens of Palestinians and two Israeli soldiers reported dead.
Hamas insists it's committed to the cease fire and accuses
Israel of violations. It also says the Israelis are arming
and financing criminal gangs. The Israel Defense Forces say they
(06:50):
have now renewed enforcement of the truce. President Donald Trump
has sent to his Special envoy Steve Whitkoff and son
in law Jared Kushner to Israel in an attempt to
keep the deal on track.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Right, So it was always going to be difficult, and
we knew this. The new regime trying to get a
new government in place, push out Hamas, get to that
second part, and it's proving to be difficult. Nevertheless, all
side still saying yes, the peace deal is there, We're
just having to deal with some of the factions of Hamas.
(07:24):
So we shall see now talking about property taxes in Florida,
that it is entirely possible to eliminate homesteaded property taxes
if local governments would just simply go back to the
way they operated in twenty nineteen. But the question is
will it be done, because aside from likely having every
(07:45):
taxing authority in the state opposed to an end to
the status quo tax and spend mindset that's been in
place ever since the end of the Great Recession fourteen
years ago, and with any proposals having to receive a
maximum of our minimum me should save sixty percent support
from voters next November as a proposed constitutional amendment. There's
(08:06):
actually the matter of the state legislature at hand. This
is the first piece that must come come together here.
If we've learned anything this year about what goes on
in tallahas He, it's that a who the speaker of
the state houses matters and b Daniel Perez, the current speaker,
is a perpetual thorn in the side of Governor Desantus' plans,
(08:30):
and it looks like the debate for property taxes is
going to be no different. I was really interested to
see whether Perez would kind of put put everything behind
them and move forward this year. The answer is no.
The answer is no. Late last week four to House
Speaker Daniel Perez announced eight property tax relief proposals that'll
be under consideration before the legislature when next year's session
(08:53):
kicks off in January.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
There are two.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Dynamics of this. Having eight different plans to end property
taxes means a couple of things. You will be voting
on property tax relief next November. But there's something else,
and I'll get to that here momentarily. So that'll be
my third takeaway today. But first, the other piece deal
that the President is working on, the one that's proven
(09:17):
to be the most challenging. Fox's Cornel Scott.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Ukraine would use the long range Tomahawk missiles to help
counter Russian attacks on its energy infrastructure. On Fox's Sunday
Morning Futures, President Trump said.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I spoke with Vladimir Putin about it, not that he
would be thrilled.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It's a violent, vicious weapon.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But we have to remember one thing.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
We need him for ourselves too.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Ukraine President Vladimir Zelenski on NBC's Meet the Press set
of President Trump not committing to the missiles.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's good that President Trump didn't say no, but for
today didn't say yes. Okay, so monitor that throughout the
course of the week. My third takeaway today you will
be voting on property tax relief next November. However, what
we see coming out of the House is that there
(10:09):
is far from a consensus in the state legislature regarding
what property tax relief should be, most notably to me,
and this is about like the most Daniel Press thing ever.
Despite eight proposals eight having been produced, not one of them,
not one aligned directly with Governor Dcentsus' call brun into
all homesteaded property taxes. That's fun. The two closest proposals
(10:35):
include one that would end nonschool property taxes, while another
would exempd hoe out or sixty five and older. And
that doesn't mean that in the end that will be
the result. De Santas has threatened to call a special
session just before nextnumber's primaries put maximal and pressure on
state legislators to put a full property tax relief proposal
(10:55):
for homestead of properties on the table if it hasn't
been passed then, But it does mean that the starting
point legislation legislatively, with a session that's set to begin
in January, does not currently include that plan. And you
think about it, I mean, you're going to come up
with eight different proposals to consider, and now one of
(11:16):
them is going to be with the governor. As for
I mean, that seems highly intentional. House Speaker Daniel Prez
said this in addressing the eight plans. The ultimate decision
on what should happen with property taxes belongs not with
elected officials but with the people of Florida. Well, that's
(11:37):
true because anything that passes would have to be passed
by voters next November. But in the meantime that's not
at all true, because you're going to decide what it
is that we get a vote on. It's up to
the legislature to end up enacting the policy that will
make a decision about So beyond frustrating to me that
(12:05):
with this historical opportunity on the table. We got a
Speaker of the House in the state of Florida who won't,
with eight different proposals, even make one of them what
decentis has called on for them to do to a
truly allow you to own your home as opposed to
borrowing it from a myriad of taxing authorities that gleefully
claim to own a piece of the roof of your family.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Said.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Now, it's worth mentioning that pragmatism may be playing out
in this process. For example, is it more likely that
sixty percent of Lordians would vote for ending property taxes
that exclude schools and ending them permanently. Maybe, so that's
something to consider in the process too. But for now
(12:47):
we're once again into place, entering Governor d Santus his
final legislative session, with House Speaker Daniel Prez not putting
forward a proposal for consideration. That is the governor's top
issue heading into it.
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