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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Brian Munt Show, and thank you for listening.
It's time for today's top three takeaways. Helpful, useful, repeatable.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Draining the swamp and teds effects My top three takeaways
for you today. How you doing hopefully well? You know
we are draining the swamp. It is my top takeaway today.
You know who's not doing well? I don't know if
he ever does well though, I don't know there's ever
a time that good old Chuck you Schumer wakes up
(00:36):
and goes man. Today is a great day, gift of
God that I am here. I know it's constituents, you know,
don't I mean, why would so, Chuck Schumer?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
This is a dark day for America, A dark day
for rural Americans, A dark day for any American who
relies on public broadcasting during floods, hurricanes, tornadoes and other disasters.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
There you go and making a mistake. Chuck Schumer has
always been about the rule Americans. He's very much about
the rule people today.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Remember when remember when President Biden, former President Biden, thankful
thankfully said it would be a dark winter. That's what
that reminded me of.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well, dark Well, that reminds me of from Chuck is
that that could have been some speech he delivered on
the floor of the Senate anytime over the past thirty years. Yeah,
he always sounds the same. It's dark, it's why would
you want to be around this guy? He is at alone.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You know, liked him.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
But anyway, so that's what he was saying because of
the recisions package, Oh my gosh, the recisions package that
passed last night. More on that dynamic here momentarily, but
as we dive into my top takeaway of training the
swamp on a walk, walk your way mentally back to
twenty sixteen, when you heard Trump talking about draining the swamp?
(02:04):
What came to mind, Joel? Was there anything particular for
you that came to mind? I mean, what that actually
aside from the slogan and then you know, theatriks of it.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Just standard old Washington, just the same old crap. Get
rid of that.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's just getting rid of the standard operating Washington.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Something that often I think arrived at the conversational level
within this conversation the swamp creatures. We would often talk
about these swamp creatures, right, but who were the swamp creatures.
I mean, yeah, there were at the time the Obama
administration officials that came to mind.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But the idea was to drain the swamp, right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
It wasn't to replace the existing swamp creatures with theoretically
less swampy creatures.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So draining the swamp always meant a dramatic reduction in
the size of the federal government itself. That was the
real premise of this thing, and that could be defined
in multiple ways. You know, for some it's all about spending.
For others, it's about the size of the bureaucracy itself.
And in that vein we're seeing the most meaningful draining
of this want we have ever seen this week. Yesterday
(03:14):
I spoke of the impact that Monday's Supreme Court ruling
pertaining to the Department of Education's riffs had not just
at the DOE, but across multiple departments. Well, today I
can provide you with an idea of the immediate impact
the ruling had. Prior to Monday, you know, you heard
about all these reduction enforce maneuvers and all these layoffs
and the federal government buyouts and everything. But probably because
(03:38):
of all the lawsuits, had no idea where a lot
of that stuff's stood. So by the time we got
done with these lawsuits from these left wing groups and
the Supreme Court saying, now you know what, the President
actually can reduce the size of the federal workforce. You
only had two point six percent of the federal workforce
(04:02):
coming into January twentieth that had been introduced to new
opportunities prior to Monday. I mean it's something, I mean,
just shrinking the science of government at all, It's something
two point six percent, not peanuts. But since Monday's ruling,
that is now bumped all the way up to eleven
point nine percent as of yesterday, eleven point nine percent
(04:24):
of the federal workforce and counting gone. And not only
is that nearly a fivefold increase in swamp production this week,
but it's also going to equal massive ongoing cost savings.
I was working on the math on this yesterday. On
a going forward basis, the average annual cost savings associated
(04:45):
with a eleven point nine percent reduction in the federal
workforce that nets you thirty three billion dollars per year
right there. You know how the CB scores things on
this ten year cost basis. So what's already happened this year,
not even on an inflation adjusted the basis, just in
(05:06):
today's dollars, already represents an additional three hundred and thirty
billion dollars in cost savings over the next ten years.
And it's far from being done. They're still hiring freeze
and please place meeting. All non essential vacancies aren't being replaced.
More government agencies will be rolling out their plans to
right size their swampy organizations. And anyway, then you added
(05:29):
the nine billion dollar Rick Scott sponsored recisions bill that
did pass the Senate last night, be passing the Hall
shortly making its way to President Trump's desk by tomorrow.
And this newly realized savings through a reduction in the
federal workforce. We are now up to three hundred and
thirty nine billion dollars in cost savings this week, just
(05:50):
this week, all after the one big beautiful bill IK
just the same way I said, Look, this is going
to be the high water mark. What you're hearing from
CBO and debts and deficits is going to get better
for he are now worse already a lot better. My
second takeaway for you today, so about the swamp itself.
What had actually been happening inside this swamp. Here is
an example of what's happened at the Department of Education
(06:12):
already this week since Monday's ruling Foxes Jessica Rosenthal, the.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
US Supreme Court ruled six to three the Trump administration
can enact mass layoffs inside the.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Department of Education.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Education Secretary Linna McMahon told the Fox News Rundown podcast
right after the ruling she activated an interagency agreement moving
to consolidate their workforce development with the Department of Labor.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Those are the kinds of things that I will want
to work on and show to Congress that this can
be handled better, more efficiently, and in the end, if
given the chance, we will prove how not only are
our students not harmed, but they are the beneficiaries of
having all of their education in the state's closest to them.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Right so we have less than half of the workforce
of the DOE we had before, able to combine with
another federal agency all kinds of EFFICI he's being realized quickly.
Something else we learned on Wednesday was the extent of
the swampiness at the state Department. So according to the
State Department. It took him three months. Rubio gets in there,
(07:14):
he goes, I want to headcount. I want to know
how many employees we have, what they're doing, where they
are simple enough, right, any boss would want that information
coming into any organization. How long do you think it
took Rubio to get the answer to that day one question.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I mean it should take maybe two days of maybe
a week.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
If you're you know, I would fire everybody down the
line if it took him a week to ela.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I'm just saying, give him the benefit of the doubt.
I would give him a week. It's like a week,
but I mean it should take a day or two. Great,
you're being paid. All you got to do is follow
the money. Yeah, you're gonna you'll understand why it wasn't
so easy. Here on that note, in the moment.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It took three months, three months to eat and find
out an accurate headcount of State Department employees.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And where people worked. How that crap crazy? Is that
bo Wait?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
There's more, Because Team Rubio uncovered and this is all
part of the reason it took so long to get
answers over seven hundred domestic offices within the state Department.
And remember State's main job is actually foreign policy, right,
they had seven hundred domestic office It's not including.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
What we have around the world.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
With as many And this is the one that just well,
these are all actually I should say, fifty different. They
were tracking layers and approval processes. There were as many
as fifty different layers of bureaucracy within that one department.
Meaning now let's say that you're an entry level State
(08:58):
Department employee, you might have to have your work signed
off on by as many as fifty different people before
anything would ever happen with your work.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
You know, I think we're both fans of the movie
Office Space.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yes, TPS reports, which you were thinking the same way,
because you know I mentioned I was putting my takeaway together.
The bottom line is that daily, not weekly, now a month,
daily TPS reports would be more productive than what had
been happening in a State. There is no doubt, Team Rubio,
and this is the reason we couldn't figure out how
many people even worked for the State Department. For a
(09:33):
long time, the uncovered sixty different HR offices. Sixty. I've
never heard of an organization having more than one largest
companies in the world one, This one federal government agency
had sixty HR offices, all paying employees.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
What in the world. And so as you will.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Hear these stories, you'll see, you know, these people that
are clapping as they are, you know, being walked out
with their boxes, and that this is what it was
we were being used of using screwed even worse than
you had imagined.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Each HR office paint. It's sixty different pain employees.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
How what do you want to bet their employees that
were like getting paid by multiple HR offices too. Anyway,
a couple of things. This is just the state Department.
You think this is the only agency that's screwed up.
I'm not sure what your vision of what took place
day to day in the swamp looked like before, but
(10:41):
that is the reality that we've been paying for. That
is an idea of what has been happening inside of
the swamp. There is so much more to be saved
from here too. That's kind of the exciting thing is
that we're getting started in a big way, but we're
also at the same time kind of just getting started.
My third takeaway for you today the effects of TDS
and the rhetoric of the left. So we take a
(11:03):
look at a local story here. On Tuesday, Miranda Perez,
a thirty seven year old or a thirty four year
old woman from West Palm Beach became the fourth president
of Palm Beach County to be arrested so far this
year for assassination threats against the President Trump and an
online post, Perez said, Hey Trump, I'm going to go
(11:26):
to your golf course and be the next shooter.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Loll I'm bored. Be there soon now.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
This past Sunday marked the one year anniversary a President
Trump being shot. The second would be assassin's case last
year has yet to take place, and threats like Perez's
continue to roll in TDS. Is real, this is something
we know now. Unfortunately, at least two of the threats
have been real. That's also something we know. Here's the
(12:00):
next thing that's never covered in that should be. I
want to give you this quote. I would be curious
to know if you can figure out who it is
that said it recent quote, Trump is dangerous. Trump's dangerous,
reckless policies continue to threaten social security, medicaid, and our democracy.
(12:25):
So who said that just recently happened to be none
other than the suspects Representative Lewis Frankel. Now, if one
is already on the edge with TDS, and your representative
says that the president is dangerous, reckless and a threat
to democracy, how might that translate? I mean, in theory,
would you not be better eliminating that dangerous, reckless threat
(12:49):
to democracy? This is how it translates in these people's minds.
So could it possibly be that part of our problem
with the assassination threats locally? I'm not even talking about
what goes on locally. We've had four already this year
right here where the president lives. You think it could
be related to I don't know, the continued outrageous rhetoric
(13:12):
and extremely irresponsible politicians. The local news media loved hearing
what Lowe has had to say about Alligator Alcatraz recently.
Local news media loves being critical of Trump's rhetoric. Why
doesn't anyone hold a Lois or any of these other
politicians to account for their dangerous rhetoric? How many of
a representative's constituents need to go to jail for threatening
(13:36):
to kill the president of the United States before you
realize that you're part of the problem.
Welcome to the Brian Munt Show, and thank you for listening.
It's time for today's top three takeaways. Helpful, useful, repeatable.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Draining the swamp and teds effects My top three takeaways
for you today. How you doing hopefully well? You know
we are draining the swamp. It is my top takeaway today.
You know who's not doing well? I don't know if
he ever does well though, I don't know there's ever
a time that good old Chuck you Schumer wakes up
(00:36):
and goes man. Today is a great day, gift of
God that I am here. I know it's constituents, you know,
don't I mean, why would so, Chuck Schumer?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
This is a dark day for America, A dark day
for rural Americans, A dark day for any American who
relies on public broadcasting during floods, hurricanes, tornadoes and other disasters.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
There you go and making a mistake. Chuck Schumer has
always been about the rule Americans. He's very much about
the rule people today.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Remember when remember when President Biden, former President Biden, thankful
thankfully said it would be a dark winter. That's what
that reminded me of.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well, dark Well, that reminds me of from Chuck is
that that could have been some speech he delivered on
the floor of the Senate anytime over the past thirty years. Yeah,
he always sounds the same. It's dark, it's why would
you want to be around this guy? He is at alone.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You know, liked him.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
But anyway, so that's what he was saying because of
the recisions package, Oh my gosh, the recisions package that
passed last night. More on that dynamic here momentarily, but
as we dive into my top takeaway of training the
swamp on a walk, walk your way mentally back to
twenty sixteen, when you heard Trump talking about draining the swamp?
(02:04):
What came to mind, Joel? Was there anything particular for
you that came to mind? I mean, what that actually
aside from the slogan and then you know, theatriks of it.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Just standard old Washington, just the same old crap. Get
rid of that.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's just getting rid of the standard operating Washington.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Something that often I think arrived at the conversational level
within this conversation the swamp creatures. We would often talk
about these swamp creatures, right, but who were the swamp creatures.
I mean, yeah, there were at the time the Obama
administration officials that came to mind.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But the idea was to drain the swamp, right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
It wasn't to replace the existing swamp creatures with theoretically
less swampy creatures.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So draining the swamp always meant a dramatic reduction in
the size of the federal government itself. That was the
real premise of this thing, and that could be defined
in multiple ways. You know, for some it's all about spending.
For others, it's about the size of the bureaucracy itself.
And in that vein we're seeing the most meaningful draining
of this want we have ever seen this week. Yesterday
(03:14):
I spoke of the impact that Monday's Supreme Court ruling
pertaining to the Department of Education's riffs had not just
at the DOE, but across multiple departments. Well, today I
can provide you with an idea of the immediate impact
the ruling had. Prior to Monday, you know, you heard
about all these reduction enforce maneuvers and all these layoffs
and the federal government buyouts and everything. But probably because
(03:38):
of all the lawsuits, had no idea where a lot
of that stuff's stood. So by the time we got
done with these lawsuits from these left wing groups and
the Supreme Court saying, now you know what, the President
actually can reduce the size of the federal workforce. You
only had two point six percent of the federal workforce
(04:02):
coming into January twentieth that had been introduced to new
opportunities prior to Monday. I mean it's something, I mean,
just shrinking the science of government at all, It's something
two point six percent, not peanuts. But since Monday's ruling,
that is now bumped all the way up to eleven
point nine percent as of yesterday, eleven point nine percent
(04:24):
of the federal workforce and counting gone. And not only
is that nearly a fivefold increase in swamp production this week,
but it's also going to equal massive ongoing cost savings.
I was working on the math on this yesterday. On
a going forward basis, the average annual cost savings associated
(04:45):
with a eleven point nine percent reduction in the federal
workforce that nets you thirty three billion dollars per year
right there. You know how the CB scores things on
this ten year cost basis. So what's already happened this year,
not even on an inflation adjusted the basis, just in
(05:06):
today's dollars, already represents an additional three hundred and thirty
billion dollars in cost savings over the next ten years.
And it's far from being done. They're still hiring freeze
and please place meeting. All non essential vacancies aren't being replaced.
More government agencies will be rolling out their plans to
right size their swampy organizations. And anyway, then you added
(05:29):
the nine billion dollar Rick Scott sponsored recisions bill that
did pass the Senate last night, be passing the Hall
shortly making its way to President Trump's desk by tomorrow.
And this newly realized savings through a reduction in the
federal workforce. We are now up to three hundred and
thirty nine billion dollars in cost savings this week, just
(05:50):
this week, all after the one big beautiful bill IK
just the same way I said, Look, this is going
to be the high water mark. What you're hearing from
CBO and debts and deficits is going to get better
for he are now worse already a lot better. My
second takeaway for you today, so about the swamp itself.
What had actually been happening inside this swamp. Here is
an example of what's happened at the Department of Education
(06:12):
already this week since Monday's ruling Foxes Jessica Rosenthal, the.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
US Supreme Court ruled six to three the Trump administration
can enact mass layoffs inside the.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Department of Education.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Education Secretary Linna McMahon told the Fox News Rundown podcast
right after the ruling she activated an interagency agreement moving
to consolidate their workforce development with the Department of Labor.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Those are the kinds of things that I will want
to work on and show to Congress that this can
be handled better, more efficiently, and in the end, if
given the chance, we will prove how not only are
our students not harmed, but they are the beneficiaries of
having all of their education in the state's closest to them.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Right so we have less than half of the workforce
of the DOE we had before, able to combine with
another federal agency all kinds of EFFICI he's being realized quickly.
Something else we learned on Wednesday was the extent of
the swampiness at the state Department. So according to the
State Department. It took him three months. Rubio gets in there,
(07:14):
he goes, I want to headcount. I want to know
how many employees we have, what they're doing, where they
are simple enough, right, any boss would want that information
coming into any organization. How long do you think it
took Rubio to get the answer to that day one question.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I mean it should take maybe two days of maybe
a week.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
If you're you know, I would fire everybody down the
line if it took him a week to ela.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I'm just saying, give him the benefit of the doubt.
I would give him a week. It's like a week,
but I mean it should take a day or two. Great,
you're being paid. All you got to do is follow
the money. Yeah, you're gonna you'll understand why it wasn't
so easy. Here on that note, in the moment.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It took three months, three months to eat and find
out an accurate headcount of State Department employees.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And where people worked. How that crap crazy? Is that
bo Wait?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
There's more, Because Team Rubio uncovered and this is all
part of the reason it took so long to get
answers over seven hundred domestic offices within the state Department.
And remember State's main job is actually foreign policy, right,
they had seven hundred domestic office It's not including.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
What we have around the world.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
With as many And this is the one that just well,
these are all actually I should say, fifty different. They
were tracking layers and approval processes. There were as many
as fifty different layers of bureaucracy within that one department.
Meaning now let's say that you're an entry level State
(08:58):
Department employee, you might have to have your work signed
off on by as many as fifty different people before
anything would ever happen with your work.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
You know, I think we're both fans of the movie
Office Space.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yes, TPS reports, which you were thinking the same way,
because you know I mentioned I was putting my takeaway together.
The bottom line is that daily, not weekly, now a month,
daily TPS reports would be more productive than what had
been happening in a State. There is no doubt, Team Rubio,
and this is the reason we couldn't figure out how
many people even worked for the State Department. For a
(09:33):
long time, the uncovered sixty different HR offices. Sixty. I've
never heard of an organization having more than one largest
companies in the world one, This one federal government agency
had sixty HR offices, all paying employees.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
What in the world. And so as you will.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Hear these stories, you'll see, you know, these people that
are clapping as they are, you know, being walked out
with their boxes, and that this is what it was
we were being used of using screwed even worse than
you had imagined.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Each HR office paint. It's sixty different pain employees.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
How what do you want to bet their employees that
were like getting paid by multiple HR offices too. Anyway,
a couple of things. This is just the state Department.
You think this is the only agency that's screwed up.
I'm not sure what your vision of what took place
day to day in the swamp looked like before, but
(10:41):
that is the reality that we've been paying for. That
is an idea of what has been happening inside of
the swamp. There is so much more to be saved
from here too. That's kind of the exciting thing is
that we're getting started in a big way, but we're
also at the same time kind of just getting started.
My third takeaway for you today the effects of TDS
and the rhetoric of the left. So we take a
(11:03):
look at a local story here. On Tuesday, Miranda Perez,
a thirty seven year old or a thirty four year
old woman from West Palm Beach became the fourth president
of Palm Beach County to be arrested so far this
year for assassination threats against the President Trump and an
online post, Perez said, Hey Trump, I'm going to go
(11:26):
to your golf course and be the next shooter.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Loll I'm bored. Be there soon now.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
This past Sunday marked the one year anniversary a President
Trump being shot. The second would be assassin's case last
year has yet to take place, and threats like Perez's
continue to roll in TDS. Is real, this is something
we know now. Unfortunately, at least two of the threats
have been real. That's also something we know. Here's the
(12:00):
next thing that's never covered in that should be. I
want to give you this quote. I would be curious
to know if you can figure out who it is
that said it recent quote, Trump is dangerous. Trump's dangerous,
reckless policies continue to threaten social security, medicaid, and our democracy.
(12:25):
So who said that just recently happened to be none
other than the suspects Representative Lewis Frankel. Now, if one
is already on the edge with TDS, and your representative
says that the president is dangerous, reckless and a threat
to democracy, how might that translate? I mean, in theory,
would you not be better eliminating that dangerous, reckless threat
(12:49):
to democracy? This is how it translates in these people's minds.
So could it possibly be that part of our problem
with the assassination threats locally? I'm not even talking about
what goes on locally. We've had four already this year
right here where the president lives. You think it could
be related to I don't know, the continued outrageous rhetoric
(13:12):
and extremely irresponsible politicians. The local news media loved hearing
what Lowe has had to say about Alligator Alcatraz recently.
Local news media loves being critical of Trump's rhetoric. Why
doesn't anyone hold a Lois or any of these other
politicians to account for their dangerous rhetoric? How many of
a representative's constituents need to go to jail for threatening
(13:36):
to kill the president of the United States before you
realize that you're part of the problem.
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