June 11, 2025 • 10 mins
Enforcing Florida's Immigration Law & Anti-Ice Riots w/Florida AG James Uthmeier
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
This is the Brian mud Show.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It is of course illegal to have a sanctuary jurisdiction
within the state of Florida. It is also now law
that law enforcement agencies participate with ICE in their two
eighty seven g program, among other considerations. We do still
occasionally hear from some officials some things that sound a
(00:44):
little bit questionable, and one of those happened recently when
Broward Sheriff Gregory Tony said this, and I don't work
for the Department of Justice, and I don't work for the
President of the United States. And so what we've heard
from time to time are some in law enforcement South
Florida in particular, that have seemingly been suggesting that, well,
maybe we are not going to assist ICE in detention
(01:11):
and perhaps deportation efforts. And well, Sheriff Toney was put
unnoticed by Florida's Attorney General, James Uthmeyer, and that prompted
a response yesterday, joining us now is the Attorney General.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Good morning, good morning, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So, first about the matter at hand, what is your
message for law enforcement officials throughout the state when it
comes to enforcing immigration law in this country and the
role that local law enforcement plays.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Sure well, when.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
It comes to enforcing immigration laws here in Florida, it
is not discretionary. We passed a robust immigration bill, the
strongest bill in the country, back in February, and it
requires that local officials, local law enforcement use best efforts
necessary to coordinate with our state law enforcement and support
(02:09):
the federal government in carrying out its mission. So if
local officials like sheriffs, mayors, etc.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
If they go out and say, you know, we're not
going to work with ICE, we're going.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
To stand in the way, we're not going to be cooperative,
then they could be subject to civil penalties and possibly
even removal from office. So I sent the letter to
Sheriff Tony as I have the other you know, officials
across the state that have indicated they might not want
to support ICE, and thankfully, within twenty four hours, he
retracted his statements and recommitted that he will be coordinating
(02:42):
and helping the federal government enforced against illegal immigration.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
At this point, are there any agencies in the state
that you do not view as compliant with Forlorida law,
not at this time.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And Sheriff Tony, you know, his office had actually been
certified under two eighty seven G, the federal program that
allows the federal government to delegate responsibilities to engage in
these types of efforts. They actually some of his deputies
busted several notorious gang members just a few weeks ago,
so I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Glad that they're committed.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
We had the Mayor of Orlando, City of Jacksonville, the
Fort Meyers City Council, a few other jurisdictions, you know,
made comments or suggestions that they weren't going to be cooperative. Thankfully,
after we put them on notice, you know, they all
got in line. And right now we appear to be
the only state in the country that is fully on
board helping the Trump administration protect our state and the
(03:40):
sovereignty of our country.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And just on topic, when the law was passed in February,
I was taking a look at who had already been
certified under two eighty seven G and which agencies had
not been and there were a few notable examples, including
Palm Beach County in Miami Dade that had not been
certified under the program at the time that the law
(04:03):
was passed. Now talked with Sheriff Bradshaw and he had
indicated that, look, it must have just been a paperwork
thing that he was on board that everything was taken
care of. So that has taken place with the remaining
agencies and the certification.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, every single county sheriff has received their certification, has
gone through training to get equipped with the understanding and
tools necessary.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
To do ice duties. We were the first.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
State in the country that had all of our state
law enforcement officers certified under this program, and Florida really
is leading the way.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
We created a.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Manual for how our sheriffs were going to coordinate with
state officials to detain people that are here illegally, most
certainly you know, criminal aliens. Just last week we convicted
yet another individual that was here illegally and had committed
rape and trafficking of a young child, a girl. We
continue to see examples like that that really do show
(04:59):
how dangerous the the bideen open border policies have been
but we're leading the way. Our manual has become the
blueprint for the entire country. And when it comes to
detaining people, Florida is not only the leader. I think
we have more than all the.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Rest of the states combined. So we're going to take
this seriously.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
We're going to help the Trump administration, and we are
going to enforce rule and law.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It spent a long time.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Coming speaking to Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier, and we
have had obviously these riots that are awfully often characterized
as protests across the country, spread to dozens of cities.
Of course, Florida has a law that bans riots, and
that is aimed at preventing some of the nonsense that
(05:42):
we see in places like Los Angeles. For example, demonstrations
took place around Tampa yesterday. It looked like everything was
kept between the lines for the most part. I noticed
a lot of Trump supporters out there. Actually, But you know,
just about Florida's law pertaining to protest and what is
a riot, what's your message for Anny folks that might
(06:04):
think that they, you know, pick up some of what
they're seeing in LA and apply it here.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
My message is, you.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Know, while people have First Amendment rights, those rights don't
carry on to engage in dangerous demonstrations. We passed an
anti riot law. It seems like just yesterday, but it's
probably been now almost six years, and that law says,
you know, you can go out, you can peacefully protest
in the right places, but you cannot obstruct traffic. You
(06:32):
cannot throw objects, rocks and things at vehicles. You cannot
touch law enforcement, you cannot harm businesses, you cannot impede
the activities of law enforcement and traffic. So if you
engage in these things, you're going to go away, and
you're going to.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Go away for a while. We take it seriously.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
That's why we don't have these violent protests here in Florida.
And you know we're well the free state of Florida,
but that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Give you the right to do wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So if you decide you want to get violent, we
will have.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
State law enforcement ready.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
We're on high alert and we are paying attention. If
anybody wants to engage in this stuff. We will not
be California here in Florida.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Amen, I notice a minimum of five Marxist organizations that
were involved in the organizing of these riots starting in
Los Angeles. Many of them are groups that have a
presence in certain communities in Florida. Do you monitor social
media and some of the online postings of these organizations
(07:30):
to see if they are attempting to get something like
that going within our state.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
We do.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, we're active monitoring the web in the AAR space.
And thank you for bringing this up. You know, people
at home should realize when you see these people out
there engaging in these demonstrations. It's not like a bunch
of people at home just decided I'm angry, I want
to go out and I want to speak my mind. No,
these are very coordinated efforts. They're heavily funded by a
(07:58):
lot of very dangerous left leaning Marxist organizations.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You're exactly right.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So we're going to fight back. We're going to be
a rule of law country. If California, you know, wants
to stand in the way the federal government and obstruct
their efforts to enforce the law, then that to me
is obstruction of justice. And I'm glad to see the
Trump administration is going to hold people accountable under law,
and that doesn't matter who you are. You know, whether
you're a random, ordinary Joe citizen, or you're the mayor
(08:25):
of a city. If you want to impede the federal
government and its lawful responsibilities, then you're probably breaking the law.
Need to be held accountable.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Last week there was a hearing in Miami with a
Obama point of judge that was seeking to potentially hold
you in contempt over enforcement Afflorida's immigration law pass in February.
Your thoughts coming out of that.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Hearing, well, you know, as a reminder, nobody respects rule
of law more than me, and I think it's it's
not often that someone should be questioning the decision of
a judge. But you have a case where this federal
judge asked me to send an order to all of
state law enforcement to stand down on a state immigration law.
(09:08):
The problem is not one law enforcement agency was a
defendant or a party to the case. And in your
first year of law school you learn a lot about
separation of powers and jurisdiction, and judges do not have
authority over people that are not before the court.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
So you know, I've held firm. You know, while I
respect rule of law, I also took.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
An oath to respect and to send the Constitution, and
to me, that is the most important thing I've done,
and so I'm going to honor that oath and I
will not be ordering law enforcement to do something that
constitutionally that the judge doesn't have the authority to order
them to do.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
So we've appealed her ruling up, you know, at the
appellate level.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
She's still you know, going through the motions and argument
process on the contempt hearing, and hopefully, you know, we'll
prevail on this because we are right on the law.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Florida Attorney General James Othmeyer, I really appreciate the time.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Thanks for having me. I appreciate you, Bet,
The Brian Mudsho podcast is driven by Brayman Motor Cars.
My family is a Brayman Motor Cars family. Your family
should be to visit Braymanmotorcars dot com. The news you
need to start your day in the Bomb Beaches at
the Treasure Ghost.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
This is the Brian mud Show.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It is of course illegal to have a sanctuary jurisdiction
within the state of Florida. It is also now law
that law enforcement agencies participate with ICE in their two
eighty seven g program, among other considerations. We do still
occasionally hear from some officials some things that sound a
(00:44):
little bit questionable, and one of those happened recently when
Broward Sheriff Gregory Tony said this, and I don't work
for the Department of Justice, and I don't work for the
President of the United States. And so what we've heard
from time to time are some in law enforcement South
Florida in particular, that have seemingly been suggesting that, well,
maybe we are not going to assist ICE in detention
(01:11):
and perhaps deportation efforts. And well, Sheriff Toney was put
unnoticed by Florida's Attorney General, James Uthmeyer, and that prompted
a response yesterday, joining us now is the Attorney General.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Good morning, good morning, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So, first about the matter at hand, what is your
message for law enforcement officials throughout the state when it
comes to enforcing immigration law in this country and the
role that local law enforcement plays.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Sure well, when.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
It comes to enforcing immigration laws here in Florida, it
is not discretionary. We passed a robust immigration bill, the
strongest bill in the country, back in February, and it
requires that local officials, local law enforcement use best efforts
necessary to coordinate with our state law enforcement and support
(02:09):
the federal government in carrying out its mission. So if
local officials like sheriffs, mayors, etc.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
If they go out and say, you know, we're not
going to work with ICE, we're going.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
To stand in the way, we're not going to be cooperative,
then they could be subject to civil penalties and possibly
even removal from office. So I sent the letter to
Sheriff Tony as I have the other you know, officials
across the state that have indicated they might not want
to support ICE, and thankfully, within twenty four hours, he
retracted his statements and recommitted that he will be coordinating
(02:42):
and helping the federal government enforced against illegal immigration.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
At this point, are there any agencies in the state
that you do not view as compliant with Forlorida law,
not at this time.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And Sheriff Tony, you know, his office had actually been
certified under two eighty seven G, the federal program that
allows the federal government to delegate responsibilities to engage in
these types of efforts. They actually some of his deputies
busted several notorious gang members just a few weeks ago,
so I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Glad that they're committed.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
We had the Mayor of Orlando, City of Jacksonville, the
Fort Meyers City Council, a few other jurisdictions, you know,
made comments or suggestions that they weren't going to be cooperative. Thankfully,
after we put them on notice, you know, they all
got in line. And right now we appear to be
the only state in the country that is fully on
board helping the Trump administration protect our state and the
(03:40):
sovereignty of our country.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And just on topic, when the law was passed in February,
I was taking a look at who had already been
certified under two eighty seven G and which agencies had
not been and there were a few notable examples, including
Palm Beach County in Miami Dade that had not been
certified under the program at the time that the law
(04:03):
was passed. Now talked with Sheriff Bradshaw and he had
indicated that, look, it must have just been a paperwork
thing that he was on board that everything was taken
care of. So that has taken place with the remaining
agencies and the certification.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, every single county sheriff has received their certification, has
gone through training to get equipped with the understanding and
tools necessary.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
To do ice duties. We were the first.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
State in the country that had all of our state
law enforcement officers certified under this program, and Florida really
is leading the way.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
We created a.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Manual for how our sheriffs were going to coordinate with
state officials to detain people that are here illegally, most
certainly you know, criminal aliens. Just last week we convicted
yet another individual that was here illegally and had committed
rape and trafficking of a young child, a girl. We
continue to see examples like that that really do show
(04:59):
how dangerous the the bideen open border policies have been
but we're leading the way. Our manual has become the
blueprint for the entire country. And when it comes to
detaining people, Florida is not only the leader. I think
we have more than all the.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Rest of the states combined. So we're going to take
this seriously.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
We're going to help the Trump administration, and we are
going to enforce rule and law.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It spent a long time.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Coming speaking to Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier, and we
have had obviously these riots that are awfully often characterized
as protests across the country, spread to dozens of cities.
Of course, Florida has a law that bans riots, and
that is aimed at preventing some of the nonsense that
(05:42):
we see in places like Los Angeles. For example, demonstrations
took place around Tampa yesterday. It looked like everything was
kept between the lines for the most part. I noticed
a lot of Trump supporters out there. Actually, But you know,
just about Florida's law pertaining to protest and what is
a riot, what's your message for Anny folks that might
(06:04):
think that they, you know, pick up some of what
they're seeing in LA and apply it here.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
My message is, you.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Know, while people have First Amendment rights, those rights don't
carry on to engage in dangerous demonstrations. We passed an
anti riot law. It seems like just yesterday, but it's
probably been now almost six years, and that law says,
you know, you can go out, you can peacefully protest
in the right places, but you cannot obstruct traffic. You
(06:32):
cannot throw objects, rocks and things at vehicles. You cannot
touch law enforcement, you cannot harm businesses, you cannot impede
the activities of law enforcement and traffic. So if you
engage in these things, you're going to go away, and
you're going to.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Go away for a while. We take it seriously.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
That's why we don't have these violent protests here in Florida.
And you know we're well the free state of Florida,
but that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Give you the right to do wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So if you decide you want to get violent, we
will have.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
State law enforcement ready.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
We're on high alert and we are paying attention. If
anybody wants to engage in this stuff. We will not
be California here in Florida.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Amen, I notice a minimum of five Marxist organizations that
were involved in the organizing of these riots starting in
Los Angeles. Many of them are groups that have a
presence in certain communities in Florida. Do you monitor social
media and some of the online postings of these organizations
(07:30):
to see if they are attempting to get something like
that going within our state.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
We do.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, we're active monitoring the web in the AAR space.
And thank you for bringing this up. You know, people
at home should realize when you see these people out
there engaging in these demonstrations. It's not like a bunch
of people at home just decided I'm angry, I want
to go out and I want to speak my mind. No,
these are very coordinated efforts. They're heavily funded by a
(07:58):
lot of very dangerous left leaning Marxist organizations.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You're exactly right.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So we're going to fight back. We're going to be
a rule of law country. If California, you know, wants
to stand in the way the federal government and obstruct
their efforts to enforce the law, then that to me
is obstruction of justice. And I'm glad to see the
Trump administration is going to hold people accountable under law,
and that doesn't matter who you are. You know, whether
you're a random, ordinary Joe citizen, or you're the mayor
(08:25):
of a city. If you want to impede the federal
government and its lawful responsibilities, then you're probably breaking the law.
Need to be held accountable.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Last week there was a hearing in Miami with a
Obama point of judge that was seeking to potentially hold
you in contempt over enforcement Afflorida's immigration law pass in February.
Your thoughts coming out of that.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Hearing, well, you know, as a reminder, nobody respects rule
of law more than me, and I think it's it's
not often that someone should be questioning the decision of
a judge. But you have a case where this federal
judge asked me to send an order to all of
state law enforcement to stand down on a state immigration law.
(09:08):
The problem is not one law enforcement agency was a
defendant or a party to the case. And in your
first year of law school you learn a lot about
separation of powers and jurisdiction, and judges do not have
authority over people that are not before the court.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
So you know, I've held firm. You know, while I
respect rule of law, I also took.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
An oath to respect and to send the Constitution, and
to me, that is the most important thing I've done,
and so I'm going to honor that oath and I
will not be ordering law enforcement to do something that
constitutionally that the judge doesn't have the authority to order
them to do.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
So we've appealed her ruling up, you know, at the
appellate level.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
She's still you know, going through the motions and argument
process on the contempt hearing, and hopefully, you know, we'll
prevail on this because we are right on the law.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Florida Attorney General James Othmeyer, I really appreciate the time.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Thanks for having me. I appreciate you, Bet,
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