October 24, 2025 • 5 mins
Interview: Peace Talks, Tariffs Talk & Government Shutdown w/White House Correspondent Jon Decker
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The news you need to start your day, and the
bomb beaches at the Treasure Coast.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is the Brian mud Show.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
And joining us our White House correspondent who has spent
a lot of time questioning the President of the United
States this week, John Decker, Good morning, John, Hey.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Good morning to you. Brian. Hope you're doing well. Happy
Friday to you.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I am, and you have had a bunch of questions
that have been answered by the President this week kind
of walked us through that.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well, that's right.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I was in the pool twice this week, one of
those rare weeks in which that happens, and one of
those times was in the Oval office with the President
in which he took Q and A from reporters, and
I did have an opportunity to ask the President a
number of questions in a variety of subjects, including the
sanctions that the President just announced against Russia, the sanctions
(00:57):
on Rush. I got a new gard probably want to
be the president is believe success those sanctions will push
putin to the negotiating table. Both he and the NATO
Secretary General asked that question. The President hesitant to say
yes for sure. The NATO Secretary General said he indeed
believes that it will push Putin to come to negotiat
(01:18):
an end to the war. And I also asked the
President about his upcoming trip in which she'll be meeting
with President Xi Jingping of China. That's an important trip, Brian,
you know that it's coming up in just a few days.
And I asked the President what he hopes to accomplish
during that meeting, whether he can push Putin to have
Putin push I'm sorry, push she to push Putin to
(01:39):
come to the negotiating table, and the President said, yeah,
that's a big part of his visit with President She
is to get she to really impose his will on
Putin to end the war. And then of course I
asked the President about that upcoming tariffs case.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Before the job. You're going that case as well, right.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And the President said he indeed may indeed be in
the court, which would be a first to have a
president of the United States in the US Supreme Court
for a case which will determine the legein now new
week procutionality of his tariffs policy.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I'll be great to get your insight on that,
and it'll be fascinating to see if the President does
show up. So a couple of things. I want to
walk you back real quick to what you're talking about.
On the foreign policy side, of course, the president has
had a lot of success in negotiating peace, and by
the way, one of the biggest stories is what hasn't
been as big of a story this week, which is
seemingly the cease fire with Israel in Hamas is more
(02:30):
or less holding and we continue to see you know, hostages,
slowly but surely the remains of the disease that are
released back to Israel. So things progressing in a more
constructive direction there. But the President has said, look, you know,
the situation with Putin with Russia is a lot more
difficult than I thought it was going to be. And
as I've long talked about, you know, China isn't just China.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
China is Russia.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
China is North Korea with Litu rack get Man, who's
being rocketmanded again recently this week.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's also Iran and the mall there.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's Venezuela and Manduro, it's Cuba, it's Nicaraguan. So this
is kind of like the new Axis powers, if you will.
So you've hinted at this even recently, China really could
be the key lynchpin in all of this.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, that's right. I mean, China is the largest purchaser
of Russian oil. They stopped purchasing that Russian oil and
then the ability for Russia to finance its war goes away.
China also provides a lot of military technology, drone technology
towards Russia and also military equipment. So you take that away,
(03:34):
it makes it difficult for Russia to essentially impose its
will upon Ukraine. And Putin has a very good relationship
with President She. He listens to Presidents She. He realizes
that partnership is one in which Russia really does depend
on China. So I think China holds a lot of
cards here. The President agreed when I asked that question
(03:56):
of him earlier this week. And we'll see if the
president can have President She imposed his will on President
Putin to come to the negotiating table.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So, by the way, here we are.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
The partial government shutdown continues day twenty four today. One
of the interesting things, and nothing's going to happen since
you have the Senate that is now in recess through
the weekend. You've had multiple attempts in multiple ways to
try to pay essential federal government employees on time, and
those efforts have been rejected by Democrats ultimately as well.
(04:32):
What is your thought process about where we are, what
are you hearing of anything about what this looks like
going forward?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well, you know, I may be the wrong person to ask,
because admittedly I was wrong. I thought this was going
to be a short government shutdown, Brian, and it's not,
you know, as you point out, the second largest longest
shutdown in US history, the longest being in President Trump's
first term thirty five days. Neither side is talking, you know,
to one another to try to end this impass. That's
(04:59):
not a good thing. And I think that, you know,
as more and more impacts of the government shutdown are
felt all throughout the US, maybe that will compel lawmakers
on both sides of the aisle to say, you know what,
let's end this. Let's end this, let's get people back
to work, let's get you know, the government reopened. And
maybe that's what it takes. Maybe it takes you know,
(05:21):
those problems that we see at airports all around the
country in terms of delays. Maybe it does take you know,
the fact that constituents are calling their lawmakers because they're
either not getting paid, you know, if they work for
the government in some fashion, or you know, they may
be a small business owner who depends on the federal
government to get paid, so a lot the way to see,
(05:42):
I'm always hopeful that cooler minds will prevail, but it
hasn't happened just yet,
The news you need to start your day, and the
bomb beaches at the Treasure Coast.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is the Brian mud Show.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
And joining us our White House correspondent who has spent
a lot of time questioning the President of the United
States this week, John Decker, Good morning, John, Hey.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Good morning to you. Brian. Hope you're doing well. Happy
Friday to you.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I am, and you have had a bunch of questions
that have been answered by the President this week kind
of walked us through that.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well, that's right.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I was in the pool twice this week, one of
those rare weeks in which that happens, and one of
those times was in the Oval office with the President
in which he took Q and A from reporters, and
I did have an opportunity to ask the President a
number of questions in a variety of subjects, including the
sanctions that the President just announced against Russia, the sanctions
(00:57):
on Rush. I got a new gard probably want to
be the president is believe success those sanctions will push
putin to the negotiating table. Both he and the NATO
Secretary General asked that question. The President hesitant to say
yes for sure. The NATO Secretary General said he indeed
believes that it will push Putin to come to negotiat
(01:18):
an end to the war. And I also asked the
President about his upcoming trip in which she'll be meeting
with President Xi Jingping of China. That's an important trip, Brian,
you know that it's coming up in just a few days.
And I asked the President what he hopes to accomplish
during that meeting, whether he can push Putin to have
Putin push I'm sorry, push she to push Putin to
(01:39):
come to the negotiating table, and the President said, yeah,
that's a big part of his visit with President She
is to get she to really impose his will on
Putin to end the war. And then of course I
asked the President about that upcoming tariffs case.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Before the job. You're going that case as well, right.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And the President said he indeed may indeed be in
the court, which would be a first to have a
president of the United States in the US Supreme Court
for a case which will determine the legein now new
week procutionality of his tariffs policy.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I'll be great to get your insight on that,
and it'll be fascinating to see if the President does
show up. So a couple of things. I want to
walk you back real quick to what you're talking about.
On the foreign policy side, of course, the president has
had a lot of success in negotiating peace, and by
the way, one of the biggest stories is what hasn't
been as big of a story this week, which is
seemingly the cease fire with Israel in Hamas is more
(02:30):
or less holding and we continue to see you know, hostages,
slowly but surely the remains of the disease that are
released back to Israel. So things progressing in a more
constructive direction there. But the President has said, look, you know,
the situation with Putin with Russia is a lot more
difficult than I thought it was going to be. And
as I've long talked about, you know, China isn't just China.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
China is Russia.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
China is North Korea with Litu rack get Man, who's
being rocketmanded again recently this week.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's also Iran and the mall there.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's Venezuela and Manduro, it's Cuba, it's Nicaraguan. So this
is kind of like the new Axis powers, if you will.
So you've hinted at this even recently, China really could
be the key lynchpin in all of this.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, that's right. I mean, China is the largest purchaser
of Russian oil. They stopped purchasing that Russian oil and
then the ability for Russia to finance its war goes away.
China also provides a lot of military technology, drone technology
towards Russia and also military equipment. So you take that away,
(03:34):
it makes it difficult for Russia to essentially impose its
will upon Ukraine. And Putin has a very good relationship
with President She. He listens to Presidents She. He realizes
that partnership is one in which Russia really does depend
on China. So I think China holds a lot of
cards here. The President agreed when I asked that question
(03:56):
of him earlier this week. And we'll see if the
president can have President She imposed his will on President
Putin to come to the negotiating table.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So, by the way, here we are.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
The partial government shutdown continues day twenty four today. One
of the interesting things, and nothing's going to happen since
you have the Senate that is now in recess through
the weekend. You've had multiple attempts in multiple ways to
try to pay essential federal government employees on time, and
those efforts have been rejected by Democrats ultimately as well.
(04:32):
What is your thought process about where we are, what
are you hearing of anything about what this looks like
going forward?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well, you know, I may be the wrong person to ask,
because admittedly I was wrong. I thought this was going
to be a short government shutdown, Brian, and it's not,
you know, as you point out, the second largest longest
shutdown in US history, the longest being in President Trump's
first term thirty five days. Neither side is talking, you know,
to one another to try to end this impass. That's
(04:59):
not a good thing. And I think that, you know,
as more and more impacts of the government shutdown are
felt all throughout the US, maybe that will compel lawmakers
on both sides of the aisle to say, you know what,
let's end this. Let's end this, let's get people back
to work, let's get you know, the government reopened. And
maybe that's what it takes. Maybe it takes you know,
(05:21):
those problems that we see at airports all around the
country in terms of delays. Maybe it does take you know,
the fact that constituents are calling their lawmakers because they're
either not getting paid, you know, if they work for
the government in some fashion, or you know, they may
be a small business owner who depends on the federal
government to get paid, so a lot the way to see,
(05:42):
I'm always hopeful that cooler minds will prevail, but it
hasn't happened just yet,
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