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November 19, 2025 15 mins
Interview: TrumpCare - Senator Rick Scott's Fix For The Broken Healthcare System
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Your new day starts with the Brian Mudshaw, the news
you need to start your morning in the Palm Beaches
and the Treasure Coast.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
By my account, one hundred and eighty seven thousand, two
hundred and ninety one pages of recovered investigative material from
local authorities, starting all the way back to the first
tip by the Palm Beach Police about something not being
right at Epstein's house in two thousand and five, to
federal authorities congressional investigations. When people talk about the Epstein Files,

(00:33):
that's what it is, just kind of like a real
quick little weekend raid there. So the Epstein Files Transparency
Act passing Congress nearly unanimously, you only had one dissenting
vote in the House in the end unanimous consent in
the United States Senate, and our Senator Rick Scott joining
us now, Good morning, Senator. Your thoughts about the Epstein
Files Transparency Act.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well, I think, first off, I think, first off, everybody
wants to know what's happening one transparency. I mean, this
is our government. So so I know that Pambondy and
Donald Trump, you know, we're doing everything they can to
get information out at Saintip protecting and victims. But I'm uh,
it passed in the Senate, so we actually didn't have

(01:17):
a vote. It was passed. They went down to the
floor and just did it, buying NAMS consent and President
City's going to sign it, and you know, all the
facts are going to come out. This is a bad guy. Uh,
and I think it's suspicable. Uh, you know if people
were around him after they knew what he was doing.
So I'm glad, I'm glad it's all those information is

(01:37):
going to get out there in the American publicans.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Here when you take a look at somebody of the
victims and victims families dozens of which you're right here
in the Palm Beaches and many many of the area
high schools. Royal Palm Beach High in particular, was one
of the epicenters that were targeted a lot of venerable
kids and they in this community.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
How important is this.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Not just to try to get you know, maybe towards
accountability with some of these bad actors, but also for
the families any potential closure that they may be able
to gain from this.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I think, boy, I think it be hard. I think
closure will always be hard, But but I think when
something bad happens, people want to know that people got
held accountable. And I think that that is, you know,
part of the process of the healing process is that
you know, you believe if there's bad actors out there,
people are held accountable. But what they did, what they

(02:34):
did to these women is just despicable. I don't know why.
I've never, I never personally have understood why somebody wants
to traffic you know, young girls, and it's just it's
just despicable. And how these people in power take advantage
of people. I just think it's I think it's all despicable.
So but maybe it'll give maybe it'll give closure. But

(02:57):
I think it's very difficult when something like this happens
to a young woman that they can get over it
very easily.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Senator Switching gears to healthcare, something that you know a
thing or two about from your former life as a CEO.
And so the President referring to his proposal for Trump Care,
an end to the ACA subsidies as we know them today,
where money basically goes straight from taxpayers into the health

(03:29):
insurance companies. For these policies, ninety two percent of exchange
based policies covered through subsidies. Most recently, he's calling for
what basically it would amount to a form of a
health savings account to where the money would go to
those who had receive them so they could purchase their
own healthcare options. You're writing the bill for this in

(03:51):
the Senate. Tell us about this, what you're putting together
in the importance of it.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well, let's start with the basics. I think you know,
the President and I both we want to get everybody
get healthcare. I grew up in a family that you know,
we never had health insurance that I know of. I
remember a brother had a disease and they couldn't find
my mom couldn't even find a physician take care of
them in our town, so she had to go four

(04:17):
hours away to a charity hospital. So I think number
one is we want people to get health care. Number two,
what we all have learned, it's way better if we
have a bottomed up approach things the government does rather
than decisions by Washington, d C. And we shouldn't get
in the middle of doctor and patient relationships. So what

(04:39):
we know is Obamacare, which is this big government decision making.
They decided everything sold on a lie. They told people
they could keep their doctors. That was a lie. Keep
your plan a lie, every family save twenty five dollars
a lie. Well no it's failed. Now those things are true.
And actually the cost of skyrocket premiums are up for
every body, go payment deductibles. So we got to do

(05:02):
is we got something, try something new. Let's open up
the system. Let's let's let's make all of us consumers
of health care. Let's let's get all of us to
focus on how do we become healthier? How do we
find new cures, how do we find new treatments? And
the way you do that is anybody the government is
going to put into something, give it to the patient,
let them decide what they want where they want to

(05:23):
spend their money on health care. And so that if
you do that and then let people buy the insurance
they want, not Washington DC deciding what insurance you want.
So if you do that, I think you're going to
significant drive down the cost health care. But also have
to make all of our health care providers transparent. They
got to tell us what does it cost. They've got

(05:45):
to tell us the cost of things, and so the
you know, bye by doing that you know, we're going
to get better outcomes, you know. So I'm optimistic. I
know the President's on board, and so I'm going to
that I'm working on a build I'm gonna get out quickly,
and then I'm gonna take everybody's ideas. I mean, I
don't believe one person has every idea. Let's get everybody's

(06:07):
ideas and come up with an open system that you know,
you know, the patient starts making decisions rather than some
insurance company or your federal government.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Well, Senator, amen to what you're talking about here, and
in the context of information and ideas, I'm just gonna
throw a whole lot into this conversation, much of which
I'm sure you're familiar with, if not specifically generally. I've
been passionate about this topic for as long as I
can remember because it has frustrated me to no end

(06:39):
because people will associate health insurance as though it's healthcare,
when I think it is a demonstrable fact that the
single greatest obstacle to achieving healthcare is health insurance. And
to your point about consumer price transparency, it is backcrap
crazy in my view. The way that we go about
the insurance first model, where you I mean people will

(07:01):
never go into a store, load up their cart with goods,
get to the checkout, hand over a credit card, and
be told we have no we're not going to tell
you what you're going to pay for this stuff, but
a couple of months down the line, we're's gonna put
a number on your card. Just sign here and say
you're good with whatever that is. It is nuts that
the average person walks into a medical service provider, has

(07:21):
no idea the scope of what's going to take place
once they get into that facility, no idea how much
is going to cost, and then sign is compelled to
sign a piece of paper that say you're going to
pay for whatever your insurance company doesn't pay for. That
is a backcrap, crazy broken system.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
If we use health insurance the.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Way that we use every other major insurance product, then
we would be able to reduce the cost of health care,
by my analysis, by approximately seventy four percent in this country,
because that's how much more money goes in the pockets
of insurance companies than is ever actually used for healthcare
services by the average American.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Your thoughts, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, if you were, if you were directly between the
patient and the doctor. This was completely changed. So and so,
and we we have to we have to start trusting patients,
trusting Americans they'll make good decisions. And what. But you
know what a lot of people want is no, you

(08:26):
know they're not smart enough. No, Americans are smart. Trust them,
they'll make good decisions. My dad, I adopted dad, had
a six great education. He was not dumb. It was
one of the most well read individuals I knew, all right,
So trust American they can make good decisions.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, Andrew Carnegie was what I think he was ten
twelve if at the high end when he left formal
education to start work to support his family. I think
he ended up being educated. To your point about about
a few things.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
We learned by doing things. We don't learn by just
sitting and reading all day. We learned by doing things
and trying what works, what doesn't work, Try this, try that.
I mean, that's how I've learned. I told my daughters
you can't. You can't make as the main mistakes as
I've made because I rip in public housing. I had
to try things to get ahead. So that didn't it
didn't kill me. It didn't kill me. To struggle, you know,

(09:26):
to find jobs. It didn't kill me. You know, all
those struggles actually were good for me. They didn't hurt
me at all. They made me better.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Talking with Senator Rick Scott, he is writing the bill
in the Senate for trump Care and the Presidence proposal
at least for ACA subsidies to go directly to an account,
all a health savings type of account for the recipients
to purchase their own insurance. So a couple of things, Senator,
as part of my recent analysis just on ACA policies specifically,

(10:00):
take a look at the average amount of healthcare services
used by somebody in the most recent year. It came
out to one thousand, five hundred and fourteen dollars. When
we take a look at the average cost of an
Affordable Care Act exchange based policy, it was five thousand,
eight hundred and ninety two dollars. By the way, the

(10:20):
average of which about fifty seven hundred was subsidized by taxpayers.
And so therein lies where over forty two hundred dollars,
where do all the money go?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
That's right, forty two.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Hundred dollars per person on the exchange based policy that
just went straight to the insurance companies.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, it's like, why don't we think about how do
we get people healthcare? How do we you know, so
the people you know, that's why I want to get
the money to a person. You get away this money.
This idea we send money directly to insurance companies is crazy.
I mean, nobody would set up the system like this.

(11:00):
So let's let's trust Americans. Let's open this up. Let's
let's let's get let's get away from insurance companies. Washington
DC bureaucraft. They all make our decisions now, and we'll
get healthier, we'll all get smarter, we'll get healthier, we'll
learn what matters. So I'm up to I'm actually optimistic.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
So in terms of some of the specifics that you're
putting into this legislation, will people be able to use
that as like a health savings account just to purchase
healthcare services or will they be compelled to buy an
insurance product with that money?

Speaker 3 (11:35):
No, No, they can. They can use it to buy healthcare.
That means they can go directly to the doctor. They
could buy My guy who's own an urging care center,
I had all my banking prices up on a menu board, right,
you knew when you walked in, you know what everything costs,
and you could buy We sold that he was for
one hundred and forty nine dollars a year. You've got
two visits and a physical right. They can do that,

(11:57):
or if they want to use it for a co payment,
if they have insurance, you know, by pay our copingment
or deductible or pay for their premium. They can do
any of these things because they'll so your should spend
your money their money better than they spend your money.
We will all spend money better if we know what
it costs and it's you know, it's basically our money

(12:17):
when they put that account that is your money.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Then yeah, I mean, it really is a remarkable thing
that if we all, on average became good consumers of healthcare,
if we ended up getting the insurance first model behind us,
that we could save over seventy percent on what is
actually spent on the healthcare industry, most of which goes

(12:39):
to the insurance companies. And so kind of final thought
on this, Senator, you're obviously working on the piece that
pertains to these exchange based policies.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Is there application here?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Is there a way to be able to maneuver this
for society generally beyond the twenty one million or so
who are using the ACA policies.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Well, I think what's going to happen is is whatever
whatever you know happens on this on the on the
original bombingcare stuff. I mean, it's the rest of the
industry is going to head in that direction because and
by the way, companies are doing this, and their companies
are doing it now you know, I so there they
because they know the only way you control costs is

(13:19):
somebody making a good, independent decision with their own money.
But your employer doesn't say, Brian, you've got to spend
this much money on healthcare, this much money on car,
this much money on your housing, this money. No, they say,
here's your income, and you get to make that decision
for your family, and you'll make the best decision for
your family because you know your family better than we do.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's right, So I go with my wife's policy. Yeah,
you a better plan than my company's plan. Senator, I
greatly appreciate the work that you're doing on this. I'm
eagerly awaiting it because I think this is a moment
to where we can really fix a problem that we've
talked about for decades, that only persists to get worse

(14:02):
and could have a profound impact on the average Americans life.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I'm excited. I'm excoed. I've been thinking about I thought
Hillary here because I knew it was a disaster. I
fought a Bombacare and it was a disaster. The Clinton's
investigated me because I was a lead to fight Hillary Care.
My you know, you know, Biden released my tax returns
and never went after pro public ever having them. Now
I'm part of you know, Arctic fross where they took that,
and so I'm finally, I'm finally guess what I'm I've

(14:29):
been fighting to get fit bottoms of healthcare patient or
in healthcare for thirty plus years, and finally we have
a shot.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah. Fun fun fact on this, By the way, my
sister was part of the Senator's legal team back in
the day, and that one of the first people before
I really knew a whole lot about it. That it's
like Rick Scott's a good man. You know, he's getting
a bad wrap out there, Senator. Keep up the good work.
Looking forward to this and best wish to see happy
Thanksgiving as well.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
All Right, take Here, Hevy, thanks for having
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