November 19, 2025 • 14 mins
An estimated 187,291 pages of recovered and investigative material from local authorities on Palm Beach, to federal authorities in D.C. with what’s been investigated by those in congressional committees and attorneys for related parties. Sounds like a fun quick read, right? And that’s some of the irony here. Even if “all” of those docs are released – no one is actually going to read all of them...that is at least for years. Consider this... If you read at the speed of the average person – 275 words per minute, it would take you 3,408 hours – or the equivalent of 142 days to work through them. If you dedicated two hours of your day every day to making your way through the files it would take you 4.7 years. Even if you made reading the Epstein Files your career – it would take you over a year. The only entity reading through all of the files will be AI with prompts looking for certain names.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Brian Mud Show. Thanks for listening. Passion
plus talent is unstoppable. It's time for today's Top three takeaways.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And it's time for the Epstein Files to be released.
The time has come to walk you through. I want
you to think about for a moment. What are the
Epstein files? What to you are the Epstein Files. It's
taken on a life of its own over the years.
I'm going to break this all down for you. The
(00:33):
first here's where we stand box is Grnel Scott.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
The Senate's action was decisive, quick and without objection. Senate
Minority Leader Chuck Schumer asked for and got unanimous consent
without a formal vote.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
The American people have waited long enough.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Jeffrey Epstein's victims have waited long enough. The House vote
ahead of the Senate was also decisive, but not unanimous.
Speaker Mike Johnson said on the House floor.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
The victims deserver utmost respect. In fact, they should be
saluted for their courage.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
The loan no vote in the House came from Louisiana
Republican Clay Higgins, who said he feels such a broad
reveal of the facts will hurt innocent people, so he
could not support it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, So here we are it is time, and that
happens to be the name of an imaginant, imagined dragon song.
Also what applies to the long awaited release of whatever
does or doesn't exist as it pertains to the so
called Epstein files, and so just kind of conceptually, Joel
(01:42):
and I do not think there's a wrong answer here.
By the way, the Epstein files so called have been
just thrown around as like this ubickled as thing without
it being defined for as long as I can remember.
What to you are the Epstein files.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I mean, I would assume it's the investigative files and
into Epstein and Gulaine and all that whole situation, just
whatever was gathered by those investigators. Okay, yes, okay, I
never stopped to think, but that's what I assume it is.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
What would you expect to be, you know, the extent
of it, like you know, in term pages, because we
were talking about these are going to be, you know,
pages of documents.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Well, what would be just something that comes to.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Mind, like as far as what's in it now, like
how much it is? There probably hundreds, maybe three four
hundreds somewhere around there.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's a lot of pages, it's a good sized book.
So let's let's do this.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
What the nearly unanimous vote the bill is now on
President Trump's desk to sign the law could happen, probably
will ason as today. But what exactly is it that
was voted on? What is it that is to be released?
What is compelled once the Epstein Files Transparency Act is
(03:14):
signed into law? Okay, Well, this act directs the US
Attorney General, so this is PAMPONDI, to declassify and publicly
release all unclassified documents held by the Department of Justice
related to Jeffrey Epstein. So this does include investigative files.
(03:35):
It also includes records of Epstein's activities, associates any unreleased
materials from his cases, with reactions limited to only matters
that protect national security, ongoing investigations, or other narrow legal requirements.
But explicitly within the act, not two shield individuals from
(04:00):
embarrassment or worse over visiting Epstein's properties or island. Okay,
that is what the act compels the government to do.
So this bill calls for full transparency on Epstein's network.
What does that mean? What is full transparency here? Well,
(04:24):
it's estimated you were thinking hundreds of pages, a lot
of work that there are over one hundred thousand investigative
pages at the Department of Justice just at the DOJ.
If you think about it, how long has this been
(04:45):
going on? Twenty years now? Over one hundred thousand investigative
pages at the DOJ, dating all the way back to
the first Palm Beach police tip. Because if you are
not familiar with how this all started, Palm Beach Police
were the first to figure out that something was not
right at Epstein's house, and so you had the Palm
(05:10):
Beach Police that ended up setting up the chain in
law enforcement, a tip that something was not right back
in two thousand and five. There are up to fifty
three thousand pages and records recovered from Epstein's estate. This
includes emails, various estate records, Epstein's communications with others during lawsuits.
(05:38):
There's over thirty three thousand pages of material with the
House oversych Committee based on their investigations over the years.
By the way, it's estimated that approximately ninety seven percent
of the material in those documents have already been made public,
but you don't know until you actually read it. At
least in theory, more in that in the moment, and
(05:58):
there are nine hundred and fift deep pages of materials
stemming from civil cases that, for example, previously exposed the
perverted creep formerly known as Prince Andrew. There's also three
hundred and forty one pages of what are called earlier
phase Department of Justice documents that are thought to also
(06:20):
be mostly public material already. Okay, so when you hear
the term Epstein files.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Whatever it meant.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
To you, whatever you thought that might have been, that's
what we're actually talking about here. So my second takeaway,
this is what it is, and I'm going to put
it all together for you in a moment. But first
a word from Senator Josh Holly. He was on with
Jesse Waters and Fox had this to say.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
A lot of people suddenly are going to get real
reticent to talk about Epstein.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Whether it's Haakim Jeffries, whether it's Larry Summers.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
And Larry Summers we know already the Democrat economist, the
Harvard professor on Monday, well, I think it's time for
me to to step out of public life. So anyway,
this is what the Epstein Files is, and estimated one
(07:17):
hundred and eighty seven thousand, two hundred and ninety one
pages of recovered and investigative material from local authorities on
Palm Beach to federal authorities in DC. With what's been
investigated by those in congressional committees and attorneys for related parties.
That sounds like a fun little weekend read right there,
(07:38):
doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And so that's some of the irony here.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And by the way, this is also the first way
to be able to tell if you know somebody is
just full of it.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
If they say, hey, yeah, I read the whole Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yes, At whatever point you run into somebody that said
they read the Epstein files, you know you're dealing with
with a stone cold liar.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Right, nobody's reading this stuff. No, But.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
When I say, buddy, that's going to be the key.
So let me put this in perspective. Even if all
of those docs are released, you're not going to have
anyone that actually ever reads all of them, or if
they do, I'm going to give you an idea of
how long that'll be. Consider this, If you read at
(08:30):
the speed of the average person, that is two hundred
and seventy five words per minute, Let's say that you
didn't sleep, you didn't stop to eat, you didn't make
a pitch stop. Let's just say that all you did
twenty four to seven read the Epstein files. Not humanly possible,
(08:54):
of course, but let's just say how long would this
take you to read it?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
One hundred and forty two days.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Now, more realistically, let's say that you dedicated two hours
of your day, seven days a week to this, So
this became your part time job basically, so seven days
a week, two hours a day, you would be able
to complete reading the Epstein files in four point seven years.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'm seeing twenty thirty.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Even if you made reading the Epstein files your career,
so let's say seven days a week, over eight hours
per day you read the Epstein files, it's still take
you well over a year to do it. So the
only entity reading through all the files AI. Here's what's
really coming. It's only going to be AI with a
(09:51):
bunch of prompts. They are looking for certain names. Representative
Tim Burchett, he was on with Fox's law Ingram, said this.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
I suspected when it all goes out, the Democrats in
Congress will have to find another shiny object down the road.
To kick, and they keep trying to kick Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, and that may be the case, but this is
not actually going to end. This is not going to end.
And that's according to former Epstein attorney Alan Dershowitz. You know,
I've all throughout the course of this year gone back
to Dershwitz because he is like the most compelling figure
that nobody talks about. People will talk about Elaine, but
nobody talks about dersh So dersh was on with Peers
(10:30):
Morgan recently and said that the conspiracy theories are never
going to end and full disclosure will never take place
unless he is allowed to publicly release now what's in
these so called Epstein files, but what's in his personal
files from his time representing Jeffrey Epstein, you know, the
attorney client privileged stuff, stuff that he has repeatedly tried
(10:53):
to release but has been blocked by judges time and again.
You hear judges, you know, on three times have I rejected.
This is all part of what has happened here. Dersh
has tried to get what he has out there and
he's not been allowed. Quoting Dershwitz to Pierce Morgan, he said,
why judge, are you preventing me from disclosion material that
(11:14):
would be very very important in putting a whole picture
on this thing.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Dersh has already said a few things that are important
for setting expectations.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
First is that there never was a client list.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You know, people make it like there's this daytimer and
it had, you know, names written down and the girls
they were with and where they were did not exist
cordinate dirsh.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Never was that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Something else you suggested is that there aren't any surprise
names that might come about, that those who were involved,
and that those whose names have already been publicly floated
is the extent of it.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
That doesn't mean that it couldn't tie the goods to
some of those high profile names that haven't been held accountable,
but he's saying there are no surprises. Dersh also added this,
most recently about the consistent and absurd push by Democrats
steel edge there was that Trump Epstein connection, and quoting
Jeffrey Epstein, he asked this, So this is in Dershowitz's
(12:12):
own words. He said, can you name people who may
have had sexual relationships with anybody? And if we can
turn those people over to the government, maybe we can
get you a better deal. And then I went through
a variety of names, including Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein said, no,
Trump didn't do anything wrong. I can't say anything about
him that would be helpful to the government, even if
(12:33):
the government wanted to get him. Okay, but do you
think with that information in hand, Democrats are finally going
to let it go? And here's nothing else Conspiracy theories
they never seem to end. Right. For example, according to Gallop,
sixty five percent of Americans I most recently believe that
there's a JFK conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I mean almost two thirds.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Heck, even about ten percent still believe in an Elvis
conspiracy right now. But it's not This situation is not
the X files. And there actually are at least two
people who are still alive who know the entire truth,
Elaine Maxwell and Alan Dershowitz. And Alan is actively trying
to disclose what he knows too, which is independent of
what is or isn't releasing the Epstein Files Transparency Act,
(13:17):
and he isn't being allowed by judges to do it now.
Something that else I just want you to consider as we
travel down this path, consider this with what are estimated
to be between one hundred and fifty to two hundred
Epsteine victims, untold numbers of congressional staffers, dog employees, spanning
four presidencies and now five administrations. What are the odds
(13:39):
that anyone really has the goods on household names this
side of Andrew? I mean, do you really think that
kind of information would have been leaked somewhere all this time,
all those people, all those places. I mean, it's possible,
it's possible that you really have that many, all druistic,
noble people in the federal government, anywhere in society, And
(14:01):
so I'm not so sure. So you know, again, I
think I mentioned somewhere on the way to curb your expectations,
curb your enthusiasm.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
There you go,
Welcome to the Brian Mud Show. Thanks for listening. Passion
plus talent is unstoppable. It's time for today's Top three takeaways.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And it's time for the Epstein Files to be released.
The time has come to walk you through. I want
you to think about for a moment. What are the
Epstein files? What to you are the Epstein Files. It's
taken on a life of its own over the years.
I'm going to break this all down for you. The
(00:33):
first here's where we stand box is Grnel Scott.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
The Senate's action was decisive, quick and without objection. Senate
Minority Leader Chuck Schumer asked for and got unanimous consent
without a formal vote.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
The American people have waited long enough.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Jeffrey Epstein's victims have waited long enough. The House vote
ahead of the Senate was also decisive, but not unanimous.
Speaker Mike Johnson said on the House floor.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
The victims deserver utmost respect. In fact, they should be
saluted for their courage.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
The loan no vote in the House came from Louisiana
Republican Clay Higgins, who said he feels such a broad
reveal of the facts will hurt innocent people, so he
could not support it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, So here we are it is time, and that
happens to be the name of an imaginant, imagined dragon song.
Also what applies to the long awaited release of whatever
does or doesn't exist as it pertains to the so
called Epstein files, and so just kind of conceptually, Joel
(01:42):
and I do not think there's a wrong answer here.
By the way, the Epstein files so called have been
just thrown around as like this ubickled as thing without
it being defined for as long as I can remember.
What to you are the Epstein files.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I mean, I would assume it's the investigative files and
into Epstein and Gulaine and all that whole situation, just
whatever was gathered by those investigators. Okay, yes, okay, I
never stopped to think, but that's what I assume it is.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
What would you expect to be, you know, the extent
of it, like you know, in term pages, because we
were talking about these are going to be, you know,
pages of documents.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Well, what would be just something that comes to.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Mind, like as far as what's in it now, like
how much it is? There probably hundreds, maybe three four
hundreds somewhere around there.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's a lot of pages, it's a good sized book.
So let's let's do this.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
What the nearly unanimous vote the bill is now on
President Trump's desk to sign the law could happen, probably
will ason as today. But what exactly is it that
was voted on? What is it that is to be released?
What is compelled once the Epstein Files Transparency Act is
(03:14):
signed into law? Okay, Well, this act directs the US
Attorney General, so this is PAMPONDI, to declassify and publicly
release all unclassified documents held by the Department of Justice
related to Jeffrey Epstein. So this does include investigative files.
(03:35):
It also includes records of Epstein's activities, associates any unreleased
materials from his cases, with reactions limited to only matters
that protect national security, ongoing investigations, or other narrow legal requirements.
But explicitly within the act, not two shield individuals from
(04:00):
embarrassment or worse over visiting Epstein's properties or island. Okay,
that is what the act compels the government to do.
So this bill calls for full transparency on Epstein's network.
What does that mean? What is full transparency here? Well,
(04:24):
it's estimated you were thinking hundreds of pages, a lot
of work that there are over one hundred thousand investigative
pages at the Department of Justice just at the DOJ.
If you think about it, how long has this been
(04:45):
going on? Twenty years now? Over one hundred thousand investigative
pages at the DOJ, dating all the way back to
the first Palm Beach police tip. Because if you are
not familiar with how this all started, Palm Beach Police
were the first to figure out that something was not
right at Epstein's house, and so you had the Palm
(05:10):
Beach Police that ended up setting up the chain in
law enforcement, a tip that something was not right back
in two thousand and five. There are up to fifty
three thousand pages and records recovered from Epstein's estate. This
includes emails, various estate records, Epstein's communications with others during lawsuits.
(05:38):
There's over thirty three thousand pages of material with the
House oversych Committee based on their investigations over the years.
By the way, it's estimated that approximately ninety seven percent
of the material in those documents have already been made public,
but you don't know until you actually read it. At
least in theory, more in that in the moment, and
(05:58):
there are nine hundred and fift deep pages of materials
stemming from civil cases that, for example, previously exposed the
perverted creep formerly known as Prince Andrew. There's also three
hundred and forty one pages of what are called earlier
phase Department of Justice documents that are thought to also
(06:20):
be mostly public material already. Okay, so when you hear
the term Epstein files.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Whatever it meant.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
To you, whatever you thought that might have been, that's
what we're actually talking about here. So my second takeaway,
this is what it is, and I'm going to put
it all together for you in a moment. But first
a word from Senator Josh Holly. He was on with
Jesse Waters and Fox had this to say.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
A lot of people suddenly are going to get real
reticent to talk about Epstein.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Whether it's Haakim Jeffries, whether it's Larry Summers.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
And Larry Summers we know already the Democrat economist, the
Harvard professor on Monday, well, I think it's time for
me to to step out of public life. So anyway,
this is what the Epstein Files is, and estimated one
(07:17):
hundred and eighty seven thousand, two hundred and ninety one
pages of recovered and investigative material from local authorities on
Palm Beach to federal authorities in DC. With what's been
investigated by those in congressional committees and attorneys for related parties.
That sounds like a fun little weekend read right there,
(07:38):
doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And so that's some of the irony here.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And by the way, this is also the first way
to be able to tell if you know somebody is
just full of it.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
If they say, hey, yeah, I read the whole Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yes, At whatever point you run into somebody that said
they read the Epstein files, you know you're dealing with
with a stone cold liar.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Right, nobody's reading this stuff. No, But.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
When I say, buddy, that's going to be the key.
So let me put this in perspective. Even if all
of those docs are released, you're not going to have
anyone that actually ever reads all of them, or if
they do, I'm going to give you an idea of
how long that'll be. Consider this, If you read at
(08:30):
the speed of the average person, that is two hundred
and seventy five words per minute, Let's say that you
didn't sleep, you didn't stop to eat, you didn't make
a pitch stop. Let's just say that all you did
twenty four to seven read the Epstein files. Not humanly possible,
(08:54):
of course, but let's just say how long would this
take you to read it?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
One hundred and forty two days.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Now, more realistically, let's say that you dedicated two hours
of your day, seven days a week to this, So
this became your part time job basically, so seven days
a week, two hours a day, you would be able
to complete reading the Epstein files in four point seven years.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'm seeing twenty thirty.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Even if you made reading the Epstein files your career,
so let's say seven days a week, over eight hours
per day you read the Epstein files, it's still take
you well over a year to do it. So the
only entity reading through all the files AI. Here's what's
really coming. It's only going to be AI with a
(09:51):
bunch of prompts. They are looking for certain names. Representative
Tim Burchett, he was on with Fox's law Ingram, said this.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
I suspected when it all goes out, the Democrats in
Congress will have to find another shiny object down the road.
To kick, and they keep trying to kick Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, and that may be the case, but this is
not actually going to end. This is not going to end.
And that's according to former Epstein attorney Alan Dershowitz. You know,
I've all throughout the course of this year gone back
to Dershwitz because he is like the most compelling figure
that nobody talks about. People will talk about Elaine, but
nobody talks about dersh So dersh was on with Peers
(10:30):
Morgan recently and said that the conspiracy theories are never
going to end and full disclosure will never take place
unless he is allowed to publicly release now what's in
these so called Epstein files, but what's in his personal
files from his time representing Jeffrey Epstein, you know, the
attorney client privileged stuff, stuff that he has repeatedly tried
(10:53):
to release but has been blocked by judges time and again.
You hear judges, you know, on three times have I rejected.
This is all part of what has happened here. Dersh
has tried to get what he has out there and
he's not been allowed. Quoting Dershwitz to Pierce Morgan, he said,
why judge, are you preventing me from disclosion material that
(11:14):
would be very very important in putting a whole picture
on this thing.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Dersh has already said a few things that are important
for setting expectations.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
First is that there never was a client list.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You know, people make it like there's this daytimer and
it had, you know, names written down and the girls
they were with and where they were did not exist
cordinate dirsh.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Never was that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Something else you suggested is that there aren't any surprise
names that might come about, that those who were involved,
and that those whose names have already been publicly floated
is the extent of it.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
That doesn't mean that it couldn't tie the goods to
some of those high profile names that haven't been held accountable,
but he's saying there are no surprises. Dersh also added this,
most recently about the consistent and absurd push by Democrats
steel edge there was that Trump Epstein connection, and quoting
Jeffrey Epstein, he asked this, So this is in Dershowitz's
(12:12):
own words. He said, can you name people who may
have had sexual relationships with anybody? And if we can
turn those people over to the government, maybe we can
get you a better deal. And then I went through
a variety of names, including Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein said, no,
Trump didn't do anything wrong. I can't say anything about
him that would be helpful to the government, even if
(12:33):
the government wanted to get him. Okay, but do you
think with that information in hand, Democrats are finally going
to let it go? And here's nothing else Conspiracy theories
they never seem to end. Right. For example, according to Gallop,
sixty five percent of Americans I most recently believe that
there's a JFK conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I mean almost two thirds.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Heck, even about ten percent still believe in an Elvis
conspiracy right now. But it's not This situation is not
the X files. And there actually are at least two
people who are still alive who know the entire truth,
Elaine Maxwell and Alan Dershowitz. And Alan is actively trying
to disclose what he knows too, which is independent of
what is or isn't releasing the Epstein Files Transparency Act,
(13:17):
and he isn't being allowed by judges to do it now.
Something that else I just want you to consider as we
travel down this path, consider this with what are estimated
to be between one hundred and fifty to two hundred
Epsteine victims, untold numbers of congressional staffers, dog employees, spanning
four presidencies and now five administrations. What are the odds
(13:39):
that anyone really has the goods on household names this
side of Andrew? I mean, do you really think that
kind of information would have been leaked somewhere all this time,
all those people, all those places. I mean, it's possible,
it's possible that you really have that many, all druistic,
noble people in the federal government, anywhere in society, And
(14:01):
so I'm not so sure. So you know, again, I
think I mentioned somewhere on the way to curb your expectations,
curb your enthusiasm.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
There you go,
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