June 6, 2025 • 6 mins
As always, there are two sides to stories and one side to facts. Here are the facts as we know them pertaining to Donald Trump and the Epstein files:
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Brian Mudjo podcast is driven by Brayman Motor Cars.
My family is a Brayman Motor Cars family. Your family
should be to visit Braymanmotorcars dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Two sides to the story, there's only one side to
the facts. Welcome to the Brian Mud Show and thank
you for listening. And let's talk more facts. Musk versus
Trump and the Epstein files. Facts are critically important.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Does always two sides to stories, one side of facts
and as this whole thing unfurled yesterday, really important to
establish facts first.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Foxes Richardson Musk once said he loved Donald Trump as
much as a straight man can love another man. Now quote,
time to drop the really big bomb. Donald Trump is
in the Epstein files. This is the real reason they've
not been made public. The FBI director recently addressed those files.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It takes time to go through years of instigations, years
of political maneuvering, in years.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Of cover up to get the American people what they deserve.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And that's what I'm going to give them. Jolly ever
loved another man as much as you could possibly a
straight man love another man.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I don't know behalf no, but that was just in February.
But as you mentioned, there have been positive things that
Musk has said about Trump even more recently.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, yes, like last week after he would have known
the Epstein stuff, right, So hm, let's go into this
a bit more in detail. Is one of the things
I was working on straight through the night, my research,
my notes from having previously covered the Epstein files that
have dropped. So in the context of facts, here are
(01:46):
the facts pretending to Donald Trump and the Epstein files.
No Epstein victims have named Trump as a perp. Trump
was never identified as having traveled. On Epstein's point, there
are no conversational context involving Trump that is at all
potentially salacious and line of Elin Musk having gone full
(02:07):
of nuclear in this viewed against Trump yesterday, I wanted
to walk you back to my analysis from January twenty
twenty four, following the most significant drop of Epstein file
materials today. In total, January twenty twenty four, you had
forty five hundred and fifty three pages of documents that
(02:29):
were disclosed in that drop, along with the names of
one hundred and fifty people, and so context was key.
You had David Copperfield's magic tricks you had Bill Clinton
and liking them young remember that one. You had Stephen
Hawkings quote underage orgy. These were all specific references made
(02:58):
in the docks that were just dropped at that point
from the unsealed court documents, naming names and associates of
Jeffrey Epstein and company. And yes, the Trump name came
up too. As most in media back they were quick
to prove. But as I first mentioned when this round
of info drop nearly a year and a half ago,
context was key. Many took to the tabloid approach at
(03:19):
first of simply throwing a bunch of names out there
and letting what would stick stick, knowing that you would
ever read the actual documents. But when people actually did
read documents, it became very clear that the narrative at
first did not line up. And this is why it
ended up getting very quiet around Trump very quickly. You see,
Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, and Prince Andrew were all commonly
(03:40):
cited in headlining stories right away. However, the context with
each of those three was exceedingly different. Starting with Trump,
the context that his name came up in the docks
at one point well prior to any of the allegations
against Epstein having come public, it is stated that on
a trip to Atlantic City, this is quote Jeffrey said, great,
(04:03):
we'll call up Trump and we'll go to I don't
recall the name of the casino, but we'll go to
the casino. That was it forty five hundred and fifty
three pages. That is the only time that Trump came up.
And I would say it's about as benign as against
Epstein visiting Atlantic City and wanted to go with Trump
(04:26):
to one of his casinos. For that matter, we don't
even know if it happened. As for Bill Clinton, his
contexts quite a bit different. His name came up far
more pervasively.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Trump came up only once in that occasion that I mentioned.
Bill Clinton came up seventy three times, with the context
including everything from the benign to the instantly infamous quote
from Jeffrey Epstein. This was a quote from Jeffrey Epstein
that Bill Clinton likes them young. And that takes us
(05:00):
to Prince Andrew, who was exceedingly well connected to this
story through what we had already seen, let alone what
the docs would show. Prince Andrew's name came up in
total of seventy six times and in terms of context,
while you have the two thousand and one picture of
him with one of the victims, you have the settlement
for sixteen million dollars. It's notable that Trump's name comes
(05:21):
up once in passing and it wasn't in any way
connected to anything sexual. It is notable that Clinton's name
comes up only three times fewer than a royal who
settled over the matter. What isn't in the docks is
anything that proves guilt or innocence or frankly, a lot
(05:45):
of anything new. But there was an effort to present names,
and when they went selacious with the names, you had
nothing on Trump. We also know that not only had
Trump disassociated with Jeffrey Epstein prior to Epstein's conviction, it'd
previously banned him from mar A Lago as well. Clinton
also disassociated after his conviction, but then he had others
(06:06):
like Bill Gates for example, that got involved at that point.
So the document hasn't proven anything new. However, when evaluating
who is in and out, context was key, and again
I put before you the context that the Democrats do
what they did to try to get Trump, and this
actually wasn't part of that. So as always, you got
two sides of stories, one side of facts. Those are
(06:28):
the facts.
The Brian Mudjo podcast is driven by Brayman Motor Cars.
My family is a Brayman Motor Cars family. Your family
should be to visit Braymanmotorcars dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Two sides to the story, there's only one side to
the facts. Welcome to the Brian Mud Show and thank
you for listening. And let's talk more facts. Musk versus
Trump and the Epstein files. Facts are critically important.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Does always two sides to stories, one side of facts
and as this whole thing unfurled yesterday, really important to
establish facts first.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Foxes Richardson Musk once said he loved Donald Trump as
much as a straight man can love another man. Now quote,
time to drop the really big bomb. Donald Trump is
in the Epstein files. This is the real reason they've
not been made public. The FBI director recently addressed those files.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It takes time to go through years of instigations, years
of political maneuvering, in years.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Of cover up to get the American people what they deserve.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And that's what I'm going to give them. Jolly ever
loved another man as much as you could possibly a
straight man love another man.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I don't know behalf no, but that was just in February.
But as you mentioned, there have been positive things that
Musk has said about Trump even more recently.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, yes, like last week after he would have known
the Epstein stuff, right, So hm, let's go into this
a bit more in detail. Is one of the things
I was working on straight through the night, my research,
my notes from having previously covered the Epstein files that
have dropped. So in the context of facts, here are
(01:46):
the facts pretending to Donald Trump and the Epstein files.
No Epstein victims have named Trump as a perp. Trump
was never identified as having traveled. On Epstein's point, there
are no conversational context involving Trump that is at all
potentially salacious and line of Elin Musk having gone full
(02:07):
of nuclear in this viewed against Trump yesterday, I wanted
to walk you back to my analysis from January twenty
twenty four, following the most significant drop of Epstein file
materials today. In total, January twenty twenty four, you had
forty five hundred and fifty three pages of documents that
(02:29):
were disclosed in that drop, along with the names of
one hundred and fifty people, and so context was key.
You had David Copperfield's magic tricks you had Bill Clinton
and liking them young remember that one. You had Stephen
Hawkings quote underage orgy. These were all specific references made
(02:58):
in the docks that were just dropped at that point
from the unsealed court documents, naming names and associates of
Jeffrey Epstein and company. And yes, the Trump name came
up too. As most in media back they were quick
to prove. But as I first mentioned when this round
of info drop nearly a year and a half ago,
context was key. Many took to the tabloid approach at
(03:19):
first of simply throwing a bunch of names out there
and letting what would stick stick, knowing that you would
ever read the actual documents. But when people actually did
read documents, it became very clear that the narrative at
first did not line up. And this is why it
ended up getting very quiet around Trump very quickly. You see,
Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, and Prince Andrew were all commonly
(03:40):
cited in headlining stories right away. However, the context with
each of those three was exceedingly different. Starting with Trump,
the context that his name came up in the docks
at one point well prior to any of the allegations
against Epstein having come public, it is stated that on
a trip to Atlantic City, this is quote Jeffrey said, great,
(04:03):
we'll call up Trump and we'll go to I don't
recall the name of the casino, but we'll go to
the casino. That was it forty five hundred and fifty
three pages. That is the only time that Trump came up.
And I would say it's about as benign as against
Epstein visiting Atlantic City and wanted to go with Trump
(04:26):
to one of his casinos. For that matter, we don't
even know if it happened. As for Bill Clinton, his
contexts quite a bit different. His name came up far
more pervasively.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Trump came up only once in that occasion that I mentioned.
Bill Clinton came up seventy three times, with the context
including everything from the benign to the instantly infamous quote
from Jeffrey Epstein. This was a quote from Jeffrey Epstein
that Bill Clinton likes them young. And that takes us
(05:00):
to Prince Andrew, who was exceedingly well connected to this
story through what we had already seen, let alone what
the docs would show. Prince Andrew's name came up in
total of seventy six times and in terms of context,
while you have the two thousand and one picture of
him with one of the victims, you have the settlement
for sixteen million dollars. It's notable that Trump's name comes
(05:21):
up once in passing and it wasn't in any way
connected to anything sexual. It is notable that Clinton's name
comes up only three times fewer than a royal who
settled over the matter. What isn't in the docks is
anything that proves guilt or innocence or frankly, a lot
(05:45):
of anything new. But there was an effort to present names,
and when they went selacious with the names, you had
nothing on Trump. We also know that not only had
Trump disassociated with Jeffrey Epstein prior to Epstein's conviction, it'd
previously banned him from mar A Lago as well. Clinton
also disassociated after his conviction, but then he had others
(06:06):
like Bill Gates for example, that got involved at that point.
So the document hasn't proven anything new. However, when evaluating
who is in and out, context was key, and again
I put before you the context that the Democrats do
what they did to try to get Trump, and this
actually wasn't part of that. So as always, you got
two sides of stories, one side of facts. Those are
(06:28):
the facts.
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