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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Brian Mud Show. Thanks for listening. Passion
plus talent is unstoppable. It's time for today's Top three takeaways.
But hey there like that.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I think the clock is going to continue. I think
the sun is going to run. I think we're actually
going to be able to get on with our lives
today despite there being a partial government shutdown.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Who knew? Yeah? So about that. It's time to.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Finish what does started my top three takeaways for you today,
and I have a lot of trivia for you in
my top takeaway today. Put you to the test here
momentarily and put Joel to the test. But first award
from Fox's Rinsmells.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Workers and services deemed non essential, like government parks and
museums will now close with the government shutdown. Essential services
like law enforcement and military will still be operating, but
workers will likely not get paid until the government reopens.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Okay, So I wanted to start today's takeaways with a
little trivia because what I'll ask you is not only informational,
but I think it's instructive. As we embark on day
one of a partial government shutdown, done which President presided
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over the most partial government shutdowns in American history.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Dude, this is really not something I have knowledge of.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
I will admit, I will say, well, I will say Clinton.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And Clinton, And by the way, I just you know, conceptually,
Clinton is a good call because he had a divided government,
and so that is a preview as to the answer, which.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Is Rob Reagan.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Reagan had Democrats in control of Congress the entire eight
years he was president. So this is going to be
the first thing to kind of think about. Here, how
things go during the eighties. What don't we remember Reagan four?
I think it went pretty well. It's a pretty dark
good weren't they Does anybody remember government shutdowns from Ron
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Reagan's era? You ever even hear that?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Disgust? Is it a blip on the radar?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And yet we had more partial government shutdowns while he
was president than any other president in American history. So
that's one. Here's the next piece. How many were there? Okay,
so we had the most ever under Reagan? How many
partial government shutdowns took place during Reagan's eight years in office?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Eight years? I'd have to say like five, good, guess
it's eight.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
So every year?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Interesting, I mean, in a couple occasions, we had multiple
partial shutdowns in the same year. Okay, so it wasn't
cleaning need like, but a lot of that did coincide
with the government's new fiscal year, which starts October first,
which is why we're in the place we are today. So, yes,
eight years in office, eight partial government shutdowns an amazing
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era for the US economy and for the world for
that matter. Which is all anybody actually remembers that has
a brain in their head, and is I mean the
tts riddle types.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Well, we'll go to go down economics.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Ye, how you it's so sad that you lived your
life so miserably to those people that sit there and go,
you reconomic life hasn't worked out the way you planned,
has it?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And that's all your fault, by the way, Just so obviously.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
If you knew nothing else about partial government shutdowns, but
you knew we had more Underreggan than any president, and
we had eight during his eight years in office, and
things were awesome.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
They almost sound like a good thing.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Nah, we could almost make that case, couldn't we.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Now I will say that the partial shutdowns weren't the
reason why things were so good in the eighties or
economics and his foreign palls. He had a lot to
do with it, but yeah, it clearly was not an inhibitor.
And so on that note, And this is going to
be the next most instructive point. Do you recall do
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you know, of all the partial government shutdowns, what the
longest shutdown in American history was?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
When it was Remember the circumstances any of it?
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Not really? Yeah, I would guess we're talking about Reagans.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, I mean, okay, if there are more there, and
I mean the odds working your favorites. But no, it
actually was one we all lived through not that long ago.
Because Donald Trump was president.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Of the United States.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
All you have to do to find the long longest
partial government shutdown in American history is go back to
twenty nineteen, and you may recall the starting in January,
we had a partial government shutdown that lasted for thirty
five days, or you might even try to recall and
go I kind of remember something. I mean, I don't
even think most people, Oh yeah, and what do you
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remember about twenty nineteen because you don't remember a partial
government shutdown even though it was the longest in American history.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
What do you remember?
Speaker 6 (05:35):
I know, things were going pretty well, you know before
COVID y.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yes, the economy was great.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
We had record low unemployment rates for every single minority group.
We had record high wages, and not only that, but
one percent inflation, so we had massive income growth. At
the same time we only had one percent inflation, which
provided the greatest increase in this standard of living for
the average American in a single year since the dot
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com boom of the nineties. And yet the year the
longest partial government shutdown ever. So is this starting to
paint a picture for you? Partial government shutdowns, either in
quantity or length, are always made out to be more
important than they actually are. And that's because it's not
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the federal government that makes this country go. It's not
the federal government that makes this country great. And that
is especially true when you're talking about what are deemed
to be non essential federal government agencies and employees.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So about that Fox's Chad Pergram.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
President Trump indicated that he might take great latitude in
terms of programs and agencies and even employees that he
might cut. He says, maybe things that are important to Democrats,
and that's why some Democrats have started to rethink their
a strategy. A test vote in the Senate to fund
the government through the twenty first of November. Three Democrats
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sided with the Republicans.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, so you did have a bipartisan vote in the House,
by the way, that largely has not been discussed. You
had many Democrats in the House that peeled off and
voted with Republicans the first vote on this yesterday to
avoid the partial shutdown. You had three Democrats in the
Senate that voted with all Republicans. And if a few
more go long, then you know this will be over.
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And that's the plan right now. By the way, in
the Senate, John Thune just intends to have at least
one vote a day, maybe multiple on this continuing resolution
that was passing the House until Democrats peel off and
pass it. Otherwise. Just how much can be cut? My
second takeaway for you today, how much can be cut?
You know, one aspect of this partial government shutdown that's
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different is that preceding it, we had the world's leading
entrepreneur to a deep dive into it with the it
being government. And as I pointed out over the years,
when partial government shut downs have loomed, the federal government
does not shut down.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
It prioritizes.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
During a partial federal government shutdown, there's discretion regarding what
stays open and what doesn't. But there's one area that
isn't open to interpretation, what are considered to be essential services.
So the Office of Management and Budget determines what will
remain open and what doesn't, with the President of the
United States being the final arbiter of what's considered essential.
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With a few exceptions to the average impact during shutdowns
has historically only been felt by fifteen to twenty percent
of the federal government.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
So about that.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
DOGE has cut two hundred and six billion dollars across
twenty two federal government.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Agencies this year. Have you noticed any of that.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
There have been thirteen thousand, two hundred and thirty one
federal government contracts that have been terminated.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
There are fifteen hung up on the numbers.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I'm just being precise for a point, fifteen thousand, four
hundred and eighty eight grants that have been mixed, three
hundred and eighty four leases for federal government buildings that
are no more, and by the way, three hundred thousand
federal government positions that have been eliminated, meaning that already
this year twelve percent of the federal workforce in place
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when Trump was worn as President of the United States.
No more, Joel, Have you noticed anything change, Absolutely not nothing.
Twenty two federal government agencies have been cut, over thirteen
thousand federal government contracts gone, over fifteen thousand grants gone,
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over three hundred and eighty four federal government buildings no
longer occupied, over three hundred thousand federal government employees no
longer working for the federal government. And you haven't noticed
the thing, not a thing, and that was twelve percent
of the federal government. You haven't noticed a thing. No
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aspect of your life has been different in any way.
And that's not just Joel, that's you I'm talking too.
There's no aspect of your life that's been different in
any way other than the people that were on the
receiving end of those situations.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Nothing changed for anybody.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
During the peak of histoging, Elon Musk estimated we could
cut thirty percent of the federal government without having a
negative impact on the lives of the average American. Basically,
thirty percent could go before you'd even see it. And
we're at twelve percent preceding this, and that's evident.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Right, So.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
That's more that thirty percent. That's more than is even
impacted during a partial shutdown. My third takeaway for you
today is this finish dose started the first award from
your president.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
No country can.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Afford to pay for illegal immigration health care for everybody
that comes into the country, and that's what they're insisting,
and obviously have an obligation to not accept that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Joe, do you want to end this partial shutdown to
fund health care for illegal immigrants? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I used to think if they were warm and fuzzy,
maybe a little bit, But now I've decided.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
No, buzzy, furry fluffy. Yeah, hurry, Well that brings into
a whole different dynamic. You would that's a cultural thing.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Now maybe maybe if they were no, no, bright you
answer to your question.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Is no, you're not You're not into the furry thing.
Huh Please say no.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Okay, I thought it went without saying okay, Well you're
the one who said it.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
In the past, I've said that the only meant that
a lament that I've had with partial ever men shutdowns
is that none of them were permanent. But now with
dogees info into just think about how easy and instructive
it would be for the country to continue with only
essential services. We shouldn't lament fifteen percent less federal government
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for a short period of time. We should embrace it,
and we should make it permanent and then keep going
to downsize the size of our blooded bureaucracy to that
of something we could actually afford. Which, by the way,
if we did that, you realize there will never be
another government shutdown again, because there would actually be enough
money to operate the government. The reason we have these
shutdowns is because there's not money to operate the government,
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so there's got to be an authorization to take on
more debt to do these kinds of things. It's a
permanent solution to this problem. In the past, partial government
shutdowns have resulted in more expense because government employees who
are furloughed have been brought back and with back pay.
This time that could be shown the door and just
help finish the job that Doze was hired to do.
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I have two very questions that should transcend partisan politics
during the most recent threat of a partial government shutdown.
I mentioned this for those who are concerned about a
partial government shutdown. Should the federal government live within its means.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
What do you think, Joel? Should the federal government live
within its means?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
How dare you?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Should we really be operating eighty six non essential federal
government agencies, almost all of which no one other than
those who actually work in them could even name.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Maybe eighty No.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
No, So, with the country thirty seven and a half
trillion in debt and growing, I mean, sign me up
for the partial shutdown, only this time make it permanent.
You know it is nineteen ninety six State of the
Union address. President Clinton famously said the era big government
is only it is over.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Obviously that was not true.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
But this time we have a president who wants to
make America great again, who isn't worried about winning re
election again, and who knows that big government isn't how
we became great. At any point, it's time to finish
what Doe started. This partial government shutdown provides the perfect opportunity.