August 28, 2025 • 12 mins
Wednesday’s horrific shooting into a Catholic church on a K-8th grade school’s campus aimed at children attending mass in Minneapolis produced a few immediately important points.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, thanks for listening, and welcome back to the Brian
Mud Show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Time out for today's top three takeaways.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Protecting children and teachers and society from reoffenders and gender
I deem my top three takeaways for you on this Thursday.
My top takeaway for you is what will it take
to protect children and teachers? What will it take to
(00:31):
protect children and teachers? Let's start with the latest out
of Minneapolis on yesterday's shooting at a Catholic church on
a school campus.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Fox's Jeff Minosso.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Ten year old Western Helsney, a fifth grader Annunciation Catholic Schools.
As morning mass had just begun Wednesday when children and
parishioners were met with evil.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
We just gotten to the pews and he shot through
the stained glass windows.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Staying well on the ground. His best friend jumped on
his back.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
She was like laying on top of me, like making
sure I was safe. And he got hit, So that
was really brave of him.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Two children killed, as seventeen others hurt. The gunman who
took his own life I did as twenty three year
old Robin Westman, whose birth name was Robert. Police also
confirmed they're looking at the shooter's disturbing videos posted online
and what the FBI calls an act of terrorism as
a hate crime against Catholics. Yeah, just.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So much there clinting by the way, the child that yeah,
I was a hero, I was going to say, And
it's so sad to hear a ten year old talk
about this kind of stuff. Just yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So Wednesday's horrific shooting into a Catholic church on a
K through eighth grade school's campus, aimed at children attending
mass in Minneapolis produced a few immediately important points. The
first thought that jumps out to me was the lack
of school security in a broken world with many especially
(02:09):
broken people, We're in a highly unfortunate age of school shootings.
Anytime we hear of school shootings, it can help, but
to think of why it is that all states haven't
done what Florida has done. Since the horrific massacre at
Stone Douglas in twenty eighteen, the subsequent passage of the
Marjorie Stone and Douglas Safety Act, there have sadly and
(02:32):
remarkably been how many shootings do you think we've had
on a grade school campus? There have been two hundred
and twenty eight it's an alarming number. Now, the reason
it doesn't feel anywhere near like that many is most
have not resulted in fatalities.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
However, several have. And on that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Note, in the seven and a half years since we
passed the law in the wake of Stoneman Douglas, there
have been thirty seven children who have been murdered, along
with ten teachers on a grade school's campus. None of
these have happened in Florida, the third most populous state.
(03:19):
Did you know that in the first semester in Florida's
twenty twenty four to twenty five school year, I was
taken away? You know, most of these school shootings happened
in one of two times. They tend to happen at
the start of a school year or at the end
of it. There are fewer in between. I went back
to the first semester last year. Did you know that
(03:41):
there were fifty five arrests made in Florida during the
first semester of last year's school year based on threats
to harm children in schools?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Fifty five?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
There's just so much more out there than what we
are aware of. The combination of mandatory armed law enforcement,
presidence and extensive proactiveness by law enforcement as is compelled
under Florida law. It's worked, It's worked, and so it's
(04:13):
been seven and a half years since horror has struck
any school campuses in our state. Florida's example should be
the country's example. And if states won't do it, it
takes some protect children in school. The federal government should
step in past federal policy to see to it that
they do. It is clear what does and doesn't work,
and I don't want to understand why more states won't
(04:33):
do it. It takes to protect children and educators at school.
My second takeaway for you today, gender identity is a
mental health crisis. Gender identity is a mental health crisis.
So about this piece Fox's Christina Coleman.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
The shooter was named Robert at birth, but that later
changed when he was seventeen years old.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Court record show Robert.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Westman was granted a name changed to Robin in twenty twenty,
with the court writing quote minor child identifies as a female.
Authorities say they're aware of a manifesto that the shooter
had time to be released on YouTube, which has since
been taken down, and DHS posted on x saying in
part quote, this deeply sick murderer scrawled the words for
the children and where is your God? And kill Donald
(05:21):
Trump on a rifle magazine.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Right, So similar to the religious school shooting in Nashville,
we learned the purp as a twenty three year old
man who pretended to be a woman and wanted to
kill Donald Trump and decided to kill school children. You know,
(05:50):
one of the more ridiculous things that you'll read and
hear pretending to this case, based upon where you go
for information, the number of journals going out of their
way to embrace the purpse. Pronouns references to there, for example,
have been running rampant. Let's be clear about a couple
of things. God doesn't make mistakes. There are only two genders.
(06:15):
It's decided before birth. Those who continued to advance the
homosexual alphabet in society, all of you rainbow treat warriors
out there, you are cancers in society, Your cancers in society.
Advancing that cause is a cancer in society because what
you're doing is rather than dealing with the evident mental
(06:37):
health issues that exist with those who go I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think I could be an eye.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Maybe I'm an a hold on what are those oh
the plus rather than dealing with those mental health issues,
because that's all that is, that is a mental health issue.
(07:02):
You are embracing, you are feeding, you are fueling the
mental health condition. And what happens when we do that?
Is that going to get better? If somebody has severe
mental health issues to the extent where they literally are
a man, but they say that they are a woman
(07:23):
and they go around pretending that they are, does that
get better with time when people embrace it and say, oh, yeah,
be you be whatever you feel like today, feeling a
little froggy, feel a little amphibian. Maybe that's what the
age too stood for, is amphibian. With the Nashville school
(07:44):
shooting and the Minneapolis school shooting, we're starting to see
the problems that exists when you have a generation of
kids who are brought up and taught that God's law
and Nature's law doesn't exist. Now, you can just be
anything on that homosexual alphabet that you choose to be,
make it up as you go. No, God, this one's
(08:08):
all about that. Whatever you want to be on the alphabet,
this one's all about that. Same as the Nashville shooter.
See what we had was the first generation of school shooters.
No coincidence. Columbine came with the end of the Department
of Educator. With the onset of the Department of Education
(08:29):
and the end of any kind of religious reference in school.
You couldn't have Christmas holidays anymore. You could only have
winter break. Same deal with the Easter and whatever. Gone
all religion and you get the first round of school shootings.
Mental health crisis just runs rampant with children in society,
and we've seen what's happened since. Now we run even
farther away from God and we go, oh and by
(08:52):
the way, not only are we going to remove any
semblance of God from schools in society, now we're going
to do the most amoral thing you could possibly do,
which is denied God's law, in Nature's law, and you know,
homosexual alphabet this thing, and this is what you get
on top of it. So now it's just not school shootings,
(09:12):
but we're in target religious schools and children that are worshiping. Now,
aside from that piece, Prior to the identification of the purp,
the Minneapolis Police Chief said that the Purp, who carried
a rifle a shotgun and a pistol, didn't have quote,
(09:35):
an extensive criminal history. Now we later found he didn't
have any criminal history. The guns that he bought were
purchased legally. However, if he had mental health issues and
we had Florida's law in.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Place, that doesn't happen either. You're always this right for
all the people.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yet again, the guns, the guns, right, it's always the
inanimate object.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
They're violent, not the people.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So question for you, forget the idea of extensive criminal
history for a moment.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Do you have any criminal history, Joe? We had some
questions about He's cleared that up. No, no criminalism, no
criminal history.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Do you know what the eight year ascentivism rate for
someone with any criminal history under the age of thirty is.
It's eighty nine point seven percent. Eighty nine point seven
In other words, for nine out of ten people with
any criminal history under the age of thirty, their criminal
history will be extensive.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's just a matter of time.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
This is a complicated issue to address, but as we're
in the middle of the Trump administration's push for major
city law enforcement crackdowns, criminal justice reforms absolutely should be
evaluated too. Now, for well over a decade, criminal justice
reform has just meant lesser prosecutions more leniency. However, the
most likely person in society to commit a crime of
any kind is someone who's already committed one, and this
(11:01):
should be part of a larger conversation. So about that
my third takeaway for you today, Speaking of criminal behavior,
in recent years, I've regularly highlighted that illegal aliens have
been responsible for committing about a quarter of all crime,
with illegals most recently having been greater than nine times
as likely to commit a criminal act and illegal citizen. Now,
(11:22):
as for reducing the remaining seventy five percent of crime
committed in society, using data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics,
what percentage of total crime not committed by illegal immigrants
is the result of repeat offenders? The survey says eighty percent.
So if you wanted to reduce sixty percent of all
crime committed, you take a harder look at all people
(11:44):
with criminal histories. I'm not suggesting the right idea is
just to put convicted criminals weigh and throw away the
key for just about any offense. But what I am
suggesting is that the data are overwhelmingly screaming at us
that we're way too lenient as a society, and when
only about one in five convicted criminals don't read. Who
exactly is it that we're erring on the side of
by handling sentencing and punishments the way that it's being handled.
(12:06):
The eighty percent who will reoffend over innocent future victims
in society and the twenty percent who will make the
most of a second chance. Tougher penalties and policies like
what we used to have with the three strikes in
(12:27):
your out law would seemingly make much more sense to
me based on what we continue to see when this
is another angle, if properly addressed, could serve to protect
everyone in society. We've already seen a dramatic decline in
crime since the Trump administration cracked down on illegal immigration.
What could benefit still further by addressing the issues presented
by those who've already offended
Hey, thanks for listening, and welcome back to the Brian
Mud Show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Time out for today's top three takeaways.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Protecting children and teachers and society from reoffenders and gender
I deem my top three takeaways for you on this Thursday.
My top takeaway for you is what will it take
to protect children and teachers? What will it take to
(00:31):
protect children and teachers? Let's start with the latest out
of Minneapolis on yesterday's shooting at a Catholic church on
a school campus.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Fox's Jeff Minosso.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Ten year old Western Helsney, a fifth grader Annunciation Catholic Schools.
As morning mass had just begun Wednesday when children and
parishioners were met with evil.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
We just gotten to the pews and he shot through
the stained glass windows.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Staying well on the ground. His best friend jumped on
his back.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
She was like laying on top of me, like making
sure I was safe. And he got hit, So that
was really brave of him.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Two children killed, as seventeen others hurt. The gunman who
took his own life I did as twenty three year
old Robin Westman, whose birth name was Robert. Police also
confirmed they're looking at the shooter's disturbing videos posted online
and what the FBI calls an act of terrorism as
a hate crime against Catholics. Yeah, just.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So much there clinting by the way, the child that yeah,
I was a hero, I was going to say, And
it's so sad to hear a ten year old talk
about this kind of stuff. Just yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So Wednesday's horrific shooting into a Catholic church on a
K through eighth grade school's campus, aimed at children attending
mass in Minneapolis produced a few immediately important points. The
first thought that jumps out to me was the lack
of school security in a broken world with many especially
(02:09):
broken people, We're in a highly unfortunate age of school shootings.
Anytime we hear of school shootings, it can help, but
to think of why it is that all states haven't
done what Florida has done. Since the horrific massacre at
Stone Douglas in twenty eighteen, the subsequent passage of the
Marjorie Stone and Douglas Safety Act, there have sadly and
(02:32):
remarkably been how many shootings do you think we've had
on a grade school campus? There have been two hundred
and twenty eight it's an alarming number. Now, the reason
it doesn't feel anywhere near like that many is most
have not resulted in fatalities.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
However, several have. And on that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Note, in the seven and a half years since we
passed the law in the wake of Stoneman Douglas, there
have been thirty seven children who have been murdered, along
with ten teachers on a grade school's campus. None of
these have happened in Florida, the third most populous state.
(03:19):
Did you know that in the first semester in Florida's
twenty twenty four to twenty five school year, I was
taken away? You know, most of these school shootings happened
in one of two times. They tend to happen at
the start of a school year or at the end
of it. There are fewer in between. I went back
to the first semester last year. Did you know that
(03:41):
there were fifty five arrests made in Florida during the
first semester of last year's school year based on threats
to harm children in schools?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Fifty five?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
There's just so much more out there than what we
are aware of. The combination of mandatory armed law enforcement,
presidence and extensive proactiveness by law enforcement as is compelled
under Florida law. It's worked, It's worked, and so it's
(04:13):
been seven and a half years since horror has struck
any school campuses in our state. Florida's example should be
the country's example. And if states won't do it, it
takes some protect children in school. The federal government should
step in past federal policy to see to it that
they do. It is clear what does and doesn't work,
and I don't want to understand why more states won't
(04:33):
do it. It takes to protect children and educators at school.
My second takeaway for you today, gender identity is a
mental health crisis. Gender identity is a mental health crisis.
So about this piece Fox's Christina Coleman.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
The shooter was named Robert at birth, but that later
changed when he was seventeen years old.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Court record show Robert.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Westman was granted a name changed to Robin in twenty twenty,
with the court writing quote minor child identifies as a female.
Authorities say they're aware of a manifesto that the shooter
had time to be released on YouTube, which has since
been taken down, and DHS posted on x saying in
part quote, this deeply sick murderer scrawled the words for
the children and where is your God? And kill Donald
(05:21):
Trump on a rifle magazine.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Right, So similar to the religious school shooting in Nashville,
we learned the purp as a twenty three year old
man who pretended to be a woman and wanted to
kill Donald Trump and decided to kill school children. You know,
(05:50):
one of the more ridiculous things that you'll read and
hear pretending to this case, based upon where you go
for information, the number of journals going out of their
way to embrace the purpse. Pronouns references to there, for example,
have been running rampant. Let's be clear about a couple
of things. God doesn't make mistakes. There are only two genders.
(06:15):
It's decided before birth. Those who continued to advance the
homosexual alphabet in society, all of you rainbow treat warriors
out there, you are cancers in society, Your cancers in society.
Advancing that cause is a cancer in society because what
you're doing is rather than dealing with the evident mental
(06:37):
health issues that exist with those who go I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think I could be an eye.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Maybe I'm an a hold on what are those oh
the plus rather than dealing with those mental health issues,
because that's all that is, that is a mental health issue.
(07:02):
You are embracing, you are feeding, you are fueling the
mental health condition. And what happens when we do that?
Is that going to get better? If somebody has severe
mental health issues to the extent where they literally are
a man, but they say that they are a woman
(07:23):
and they go around pretending that they are, does that
get better with time when people embrace it and say, oh, yeah,
be you be whatever you feel like today, feeling a
little froggy, feel a little amphibian. Maybe that's what the
age too stood for, is amphibian. With the Nashville school
(07:44):
shooting and the Minneapolis school shooting, we're starting to see
the problems that exists when you have a generation of
kids who are brought up and taught that God's law
and Nature's law doesn't exist. Now, you can just be
anything on that homosexual alphabet that you choose to be,
make it up as you go. No, God, this one's
(08:08):
all about that. Whatever you want to be on the alphabet,
this one's all about that. Same as the Nashville shooter.
See what we had was the first generation of school shooters.
No coincidence. Columbine came with the end of the Department
of Educator. With the onset of the Department of Education
(08:29):
and the end of any kind of religious reference in school.
You couldn't have Christmas holidays anymore. You could only have
winter break. Same deal with the Easter and whatever. Gone
all religion and you get the first round of school shootings.
Mental health crisis just runs rampant with children in society,
and we've seen what's happened since. Now we run even
farther away from God and we go, oh and by
(08:52):
the way, not only are we going to remove any
semblance of God from schools in society, now we're going
to do the most amoral thing you could possibly do,
which is denied God's law, in Nature's law, and you know,
homosexual alphabet this thing, and this is what you get
on top of it. So now it's just not school shootings,
(09:12):
but we're in target religious schools and children that are worshiping. Now,
aside from that piece, Prior to the identification of the purp,
the Minneapolis Police Chief said that the Purp, who carried
a rifle a shotgun and a pistol, didn't have quote,
(09:35):
an extensive criminal history. Now we later found he didn't
have any criminal history. The guns that he bought were
purchased legally. However, if he had mental health issues and
we had Florida's law in.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Place, that doesn't happen either. You're always this right for
all the people.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yet again, the guns, the guns, right, it's always the
inanimate object.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
They're violent, not the people.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So question for you, forget the idea of extensive criminal
history for a moment.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Do you have any criminal history, Joe? We had some
questions about He's cleared that up. No, no criminalism, no
criminal history.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Do you know what the eight year ascentivism rate for
someone with any criminal history under the age of thirty is.
It's eighty nine point seven percent. Eighty nine point seven
In other words, for nine out of ten people with
any criminal history under the age of thirty, their criminal
history will be extensive.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's just a matter of time.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
This is a complicated issue to address, but as we're
in the middle of the Trump administration's push for major
city law enforcement crackdowns, criminal justice reforms absolutely should be
evaluated too. Now, for well over a decade, criminal justice
reform has just meant lesser prosecutions more leniency. However, the
most likely person in society to commit a crime of
any kind is someone who's already committed one, and this
(11:01):
should be part of a larger conversation. So about that
my third takeaway for you today, Speaking of criminal behavior,
in recent years, I've regularly highlighted that illegal aliens have
been responsible for committing about a quarter of all crime,
with illegals most recently having been greater than nine times
as likely to commit a criminal act and illegal citizen. Now,
(11:22):
as for reducing the remaining seventy five percent of crime
committed in society, using data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics,
what percentage of total crime not committed by illegal immigrants
is the result of repeat offenders? The survey says eighty percent.
So if you wanted to reduce sixty percent of all
crime committed, you take a harder look at all people
(11:44):
with criminal histories. I'm not suggesting the right idea is
just to put convicted criminals weigh and throw away the
key for just about any offense. But what I am
suggesting is that the data are overwhelmingly screaming at us
that we're way too lenient as a society, and when
only about one in five convicted criminals don't read. Who
exactly is it that we're erring on the side of
by handling sentencing and punishments the way that it's being handled.
(12:06):
The eighty percent who will reoffend over innocent future victims
in society and the twenty percent who will make the
most of a second chance. Tougher penalties and policies like
what we used to have with the three strikes in
(12:27):
your out law would seemingly make much more sense to
me based on what we continue to see when this
is another angle, if properly addressed, could serve to protect
everyone in society. We've already seen a dramatic decline in
crime since the Trump administration cracked down on illegal immigration.
What could benefit still further by addressing the issues presented
by those who've already offended
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