May 5, 2025 • 10 mins
President Trump’s policies addressing illegal immigration may be made permanent...in fact some already have.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Brian Mudshow podcast is driven by Brayman Motor Cars.
My family is a Brayman Motor Cars family. Your family
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
You have questions, Brian has answers. It's time for today's
Q and A of today.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
This is the Brian Mud Show. It sure enough is
Happy Monday, because I do think that today is a
happy occasion.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's a happy Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
A lot of good things happening in our country and
around the world for that matter. Very productive week last week,
and as we hit enter this one, Today's Q and A,
can prisident Trump's illegal immigration policies be made permanent.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
This is brought to you by Melissa Nash's check Mark Collections.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Each day a feature a listener questions sent by one
of these methods. You may email me Brian Mud at
iHeartMedia dot com, hit me up on social at bray
Mud Radio. You They also use the I Already Who
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Speaker 2 (01:15):
So convenient.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And by the way, it'd be great if you made
the Brian Musho podcast number two and you also see
a little microphone button in there. You see it tappen,
you can lay the message for us maybe top three
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Speaker 3 (01:27):
Thank you morning, Brian, calling you from Otily Park. All
of these changes that President Trump has made to illegal immigrations?
Can they be made permanent so no future administration can
revert back to bid in yours?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
The answer to your question is yes, President Trump's policies
addressing illegal immigration may be made permanent.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
In fact, some already have.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
There are three tiers to President Trump's immigration policy, one
for each branch of government. President Trump has an executive strategy,
got a legislative state, and a legal strategy, and all
hold the potential to produce permanent results beyond his time
as president. In fact, multiple aspects of his immigration agen
have already been made permanent during his first four months
(02:13):
back on the job. So let me break each one
of these down for you. The executive strategy as of today.
How many executive orders do you think President Trump is
already issued pertaining to illegal immigration. Doud, This turned out
to be more than you thought, Rachel, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Would you ask that question. I would have thought about
maybe five to seven somewhere around there. Okay, so yeah,
it's about double that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So as of today, thirteen of President Trump's executive orders
have been aimed at addressing illegal immigration. And the reason
for using so many different orders addressing the big picture
issue of combating illegal immigration plays into the legal strategy specifically.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I'll get to that moment.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But executive orders, you know, they are the most potentially temporary,
temporary form of paul because, of course, future administration can
erase the previous president's orders with a stroke of a pen,
just as we saw Biden do with Trump's immigration policies
after Trump's first term. But that doesn't mean permanent policy
(03:16):
can't be achieved through executive orders. It absolutely can. You know,
one of these orders has already begun to produce permanent results.
The resumption of the construction of the Southern border wall,
the wall that President Trump had built through executive orders
in his first administration still stands today, and whatever is
built during this administration will continue to stand after he's
(03:36):
no longer President. If Congress funds President Trump's plan through
the BBB that is currently being worked on, Trump will
be able to finish the wall during this administration. And
that takes us to the legal strategy. By the first
fne his illegal immigration orders, with each focused in a
specific area addressing illegal immigration policies to ensure that a
(04:01):
single nationwide stay of an executive order wouldn't be able to.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Block his agenda.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
That was the strategy that he learned during his first
term when he eventually won in the courts on his
remain in Mexico asyland policy, in addition to the construction
of the border wall. As of today, by diversifying his policies,
only two of his thirteen immigration orders have been completely blocked.
So when President Trump wins on immigration issues in the courts,
(04:29):
it opens the opportunity for permanent outcomes to be achieved
without resistance in the future. And that is especially true
if the Supreme Court sides with President Trump on birthright
citizenship in a case that's going to be heard on
May fifteenth, And that takes us to the legislative strategy. Now,
the most permanent policy of any kind is, of course law.
(04:49):
I mean to the extent that there is anything permanent,
because even you know constitutional law, I can always amend
the constitution even but when we have this conversation, law
is the most permanent. So the first law of Trump's
second administration was an illegal immigration law, the Lake and
Rightly Act, and this has already taken effect. That law
(05:12):
required the Department of Homeland Security to detain certain non
US nationals defined as aliens under law, who have been
arrested for burglary, theft, larceny, or shoplifting. The law also
authorizes states to sue the federal government for decisions or
alleged failures related to immigration enforcement. Okay, so if the
(05:36):
Feds come across somebody and they have been arrested for
any of those crimes, they've got to issue a detainer.
One of the things we ran into during the Byme
years was that ICE wasn't issuing detainers in many cases
for people in prisons. And what would that mean, even
right here in our own community. If you would have
a criminal legal immigrant, and we've talked to Sheriff Bradshaw
(05:58):
about this, if they were do to be released and
ICE wouldn't issue a detainer, one come get them? What
do you do, you can't have the sheriff's office deporting them,
so they were just released back into society. This would
require that the federal government issue those detainers, and it
would also allow local legal action to be taken against
(06:21):
the federal government if they tried not.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
To do that, so there's recourse.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
The Department of Homeland Security must detain an individual who
is unlawfully present in the United States or did not
possess the necessary documents when applying for admission, and has
been charged with, arrested for, convicted of, or admits to
being or having committed acts that constitute the essential elements
of burglary, theft, larceny, or shoplifting. It authorizes state governments
(06:48):
to sue for injective relief over certain immigration related decisions
or alleged failures by the federal government if the decision
or failure caused the state or its residents' harm, including
financial of more than one hundred dollars. Specifically, the state
government may sue the federal government over a decision to
release a non US national from custody. So this is
(07:11):
catch and release. So if there's catching release in that
catchen law, release person ends up going and breaking the
law in a state, and it hurts people in that state,
stay can go back and sue the federal government of
that So that basically helps end catch and release in
the future failure to fulfill requirements relating to inspecting individuals
seeking admission into the United States, including requirements related to
(07:36):
asylum interviews. So what this means is there is now
recourse and you can't just have magic ayward people. So
for example, the example that happened the under the Bond
administration that went a little something like this.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Well, Brian, they come across a border patrol agent and
go up and go is he this way?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I say, asylum?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And so under the Biden administration, a beaten down border
patrol agent go yeah, here's your goodie bag and a
house of five star in Manhattan, only the best for you,
the illegal immigrants at the American taxpayer's expense. And so
that's what happened before. Now the magic a were people
not only in real time are they told to go
(08:23):
pound sand in Tijuana because they have to stay in Mexico,
they don't get into this country. But even when there
is an attempt for an asylum interview. This is why
it was so absurd in the first place. What is asylum.
Asylum is somebody that is fleeing their country out of
persecution by their government, right, And that's why it's been bs.
(08:47):
None of these people have been legitimate asylum secret none
of them. And so it actually puts requirements in place
for asylum interviews so that upfront, even when the claim
is being made, you are able to discern whether there's
an air of legitimacy to it or not. And again
there's recourse by states. If this isn't done.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
You can kind of call it its own kind of
way due process.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Imagine that, Yeah, failure to fulfill the requirement to stop
issuing visas to nationals of the country that unreasonably denies
or delays acceptance of nationals of that country. Violation of
limitations on immigration paroles such as the requirement that parole
be granted on only on a case by case basis,
or failure to detain an individual who has been ordered
(09:34):
removed from the United States.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Okay, so all that stuff is law that's already permanent.
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
As mentioned, the current BBB budget plan would also provide
funding for President Trump's ice attention and deportation plans and
the completion of the southern border wall. So it's also
possible that, following the litigation of the courts, and after
the budget deal has been achieved, that the Trump administration
and Congress come together seeking to turn some of his
(09:59):
executive orders into law as well. So yes, there is
some that's already been made permanent, quite a bit actually,
and more that very well could be on the way.
The Brian Mudshow podcast is driven by Brayman Motor Cars.
My family is a Brayman Motor Cars family. Your family
should be to visit Braymanmotorcars dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You have questions, Brian has answers. It's time for today's
Q and A of today.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
This is the Brian Mud Show. It sure enough is
Happy Monday, because I do think that today is a
happy occasion.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's a happy Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
A lot of good things happening in our country and
around the world for that matter. Very productive week last week,
and as we hit enter this one, Today's Q and A,
can prisident Trump's illegal immigration policies be made permanent.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
This is brought to you by Melissa Nash's check Mark Collections.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Each day a feature a listener questions sent by one
of these methods. You may email me Brian Mud at
iHeartMedia dot com, hit me up on social at bray
Mud Radio. You They also use the I Already Who
Talked Back?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Feature?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Just go two W J and O or zero Patriot
inside of the ie Already app and when you get there,
we would love it if you made us your number
one precent. Now we can listen to us on demand
everywhere you go for free.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So convenient.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And by the way, it'd be great if you made
the Brian Musho podcast number two and you also see
a little microphone button in there. You see it tappen,
you can lay the message for us maybe top three
question for a future Q and A just like this one.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Thank you morning, Brian, calling you from Otily Park. All
of these changes that President Trump has made to illegal immigrations?
Can they be made permanent so no future administration can
revert back to bid in yours?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
The answer to your question is yes, President Trump's policies
addressing illegal immigration may be made permanent.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
In fact, some already have.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
There are three tiers to President Trump's immigration policy, one
for each branch of government. President Trump has an executive strategy,
got a legislative state, and a legal strategy, and all
hold the potential to produce permanent results beyond his time
as president. In fact, multiple aspects of his immigration agen
have already been made permanent during his first four months
(02:13):
back on the job. So let me break each one
of these down for you. The executive strategy as of today.
How many executive orders do you think President Trump is
already issued pertaining to illegal immigration. Doud, This turned out
to be more than you thought, Rachel, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Would you ask that question. I would have thought about
maybe five to seven somewhere around there. Okay, so yeah,
it's about double that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So as of today, thirteen of President Trump's executive orders
have been aimed at addressing illegal immigration. And the reason
for using so many different orders addressing the big picture
issue of combating illegal immigration plays into the legal strategy specifically.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I'll get to that moment.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But executive orders, you know, they are the most potentially temporary,
temporary form of paul because, of course, future administration can
erase the previous president's orders with a stroke of a pen,
just as we saw Biden do with Trump's immigration policies
after Trump's first term. But that doesn't mean permanent policy
(03:16):
can't be achieved through executive orders. It absolutely can. You know,
one of these orders has already begun to produce permanent results.
The resumption of the construction of the Southern border wall,
the wall that President Trump had built through executive orders
in his first administration still stands today, and whatever is
built during this administration will continue to stand after he's
(03:36):
no longer President. If Congress funds President Trump's plan through
the BBB that is currently being worked on, Trump will
be able to finish the wall during this administration. And
that takes us to the legal strategy. By the first
fne his illegal immigration orders, with each focused in a
specific area addressing illegal immigration policies to ensure that a
(04:01):
single nationwide stay of an executive order wouldn't be able to.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Block his agenda.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
That was the strategy that he learned during his first
term when he eventually won in the courts on his
remain in Mexico asyland policy, in addition to the construction
of the border wall. As of today, by diversifying his policies,
only two of his thirteen immigration orders have been completely blocked.
So when President Trump wins on immigration issues in the courts,
(04:29):
it opens the opportunity for permanent outcomes to be achieved
without resistance in the future. And that is especially true
if the Supreme Court sides with President Trump on birthright
citizenship in a case that's going to be heard on
May fifteenth, And that takes us to the legislative strategy. Now,
the most permanent policy of any kind is, of course law.
(04:49):
I mean to the extent that there is anything permanent,
because even you know constitutional law, I can always amend
the constitution even but when we have this conversation, law
is the most permanent. So the first law of Trump's
second administration was an illegal immigration law, the Lake and
Rightly Act, and this has already taken effect. That law
(05:12):
required the Department of Homeland Security to detain certain non
US nationals defined as aliens under law, who have been
arrested for burglary, theft, larceny, or shoplifting. The law also
authorizes states to sue the federal government for decisions or
alleged failures related to immigration enforcement. Okay, so if the
(05:36):
Feds come across somebody and they have been arrested for
any of those crimes, they've got to issue a detainer.
One of the things we ran into during the Byme
years was that ICE wasn't issuing detainers in many cases
for people in prisons. And what would that mean, even
right here in our own community. If you would have
a criminal legal immigrant, and we've talked to Sheriff Bradshaw
(05:58):
about this, if they were do to be released and
ICE wouldn't issue a detainer, one come get them? What
do you do, you can't have the sheriff's office deporting them,
so they were just released back into society. This would
require that the federal government issue those detainers, and it
would also allow local legal action to be taken against
(06:21):
the federal government if they tried not.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
To do that, so there's recourse.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
The Department of Homeland Security must detain an individual who
is unlawfully present in the United States or did not
possess the necessary documents when applying for admission, and has
been charged with, arrested for, convicted of, or admits to
being or having committed acts that constitute the essential elements
of burglary, theft, larceny, or shoplifting. It authorizes state governments
(06:48):
to sue for injective relief over certain immigration related decisions
or alleged failures by the federal government if the decision
or failure caused the state or its residents' harm, including
financial of more than one hundred dollars. Specifically, the state
government may sue the federal government over a decision to
release a non US national from custody. So this is
(07:11):
catch and release. So if there's catching release in that
catchen law, release person ends up going and breaking the
law in a state, and it hurts people in that state,
stay can go back and sue the federal government of
that So that basically helps end catch and release in
the future failure to fulfill requirements relating to inspecting individuals
seeking admission into the United States, including requirements related to
(07:36):
asylum interviews. So what this means is there is now
recourse and you can't just have magic ayward people. So
for example, the example that happened the under the Bond
administration that went a little something like this.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Well, Brian, they come across a border patrol agent and
go up and go is he this way?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I say, asylum?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And so under the Biden administration, a beaten down border
patrol agent go yeah, here's your goodie bag and a
house of five star in Manhattan, only the best for you,
the illegal immigrants at the American taxpayer's expense. And so
that's what happened before. Now the magic a were people
not only in real time are they told to go
(08:23):
pound sand in Tijuana because they have to stay in Mexico,
they don't get into this country. But even when there
is an attempt for an asylum interview. This is why
it was so absurd in the first place. What is asylum.
Asylum is somebody that is fleeing their country out of
persecution by their government, right, And that's why it's been bs.
(08:47):
None of these people have been legitimate asylum secret none
of them. And so it actually puts requirements in place
for asylum interviews so that upfront, even when the claim
is being made, you are able to discern whether there's
an air of legitimacy to it or not. And again
there's recourse by states. If this isn't done.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
You can kind of call it its own kind of
way due process.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Imagine that, Yeah, failure to fulfill the requirement to stop
issuing visas to nationals of the country that unreasonably denies
or delays acceptance of nationals of that country. Violation of
limitations on immigration paroles such as the requirement that parole
be granted on only on a case by case basis,
or failure to detain an individual who has been ordered
(09:34):
removed from the United States.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Okay, so all that stuff is law that's already permanent.
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
As mentioned, the current BBB budget plan would also provide
funding for President Trump's ice attention and deportation plans and
the completion of the southern border wall. So it's also
possible that, following the litigation of the courts, and after
the budget deal has been achieved, that the Trump administration
and Congress come together seeking to turn some of his
(09:59):
executive orders into law as well. So yes, there is
some that's already been made permanent, quite a bit actually,
and more that very well could be on the way.
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