August 1, 2025 • 6 mins
You don’t have to be particularly good at math to know it’s a much better value proposition for the citizens of Florida to spend $450 million to dispose of a problem as opposed to $3.7 billion to facilitate it.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
You have questions, Brian has answers. It's time for today's
Q and A of today. This is the Brian mut Show.
Happy for Friday to you as we dive into the
Q and A.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
How many ice attentions are taking place in the Florida.
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(00:36):
into the I Already app. Make us you number one
precep make the Brian mudsho a podcast number two pre set.
While you're in there and look for a little microphone button.
See it, tap it. You may lay down the message
right there, maybe for a future Q and A. Today's
note this Brian, thank you for being our local voice
of sanity. You're welcome. We frequently hear about Alligator Alcatraz
(00:58):
and the number of detainees being held there. What I
haven't seen reported is how many detentions are coming from
Florida daily are for example, the detainees and Alligator Alcatraz
people detained in Florida. Also, what do you make of
the four hundred and fifty million dollars Florida is said
to be fronting to operate it? Thanks? All right, So
(01:20):
uh gonna start with the second question. First, No, the
detainees that Alligator Alcatraz are not all illegal aliens detained
within Florida, although it does look like most of them
are now. A couple of weeks ago, a list of
seven hundred illegal aliens housed at Alligator Alcatraz were released,
(01:42):
and detainees from at least six other locations were among
the names listed. Now standard operating procedure, it does result
in detainees being sent wherever the closest detention facility that's
available is. However, as you are probably aware, Trump administration
is faced a shortage of detention facilities as courts of
(02:02):
significantly slow deportations as ice intentions have ramped up. Hence
the effort to get Alligator Up Alcatraz up and running
as quickly as happened in the first place. So that
has resulted in detainees from some other states being sent
there as well. The exact numbers just unclear as for
(02:23):
the estimated four hundred and fifty million dollars annually to
operate Alligator Alcatraz one, the federal government will pick up some,
if not all, of the TAB two. It pales in
comparison to the cost of continuing to facilitate illegal immigration
as we had been previously.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
One of the things I find to be especially interesting
is that news media in general wasn't and hasn't been
interesting in covering the net cost of illegal immigration to Floridians.
But as my analysis under the Biden administration showed, the
annualized costs of maintaining status quo go immigration within our state,
oh that was running at about three point seven billion
(03:05):
dollars annually for a cost of four hundred and sixty
eight dollars per household within this state. To under the
Biden administration, you were paying an average of four hundred
and sixty eight bucks a year just to facilitate illegal immigration.
So I find it interesting that others in news reporting
didn't find it worthwhile to report on the three point
(03:28):
seven billion dollars in annual cost to keep illegal immigrants
in our communities, let alone additional crime, higher inflation, lack
of affordable housing all that, so they don't find it
interesting to investigate that aspect of things. But oh my gosh,
four hundred and fifty million dollars annually for a detention
(03:52):
facility to remove them, Now we care.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Brian, You know how much it's costing us to have
portu potties at alligat our alcatraz.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I am, I'm sure it is going to break the
back of the state's budget.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Twenty two million dollars, according to local TV reports. Could
have them go down the tube, down the toilet, twenty
two million dollars quite literally.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Huh yeah, So they're covering that aspect of this nown too.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
They did the whole They did a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Three point seven billion dollars in annual cost to keep
them here a crime rate that was double digit percentages
higher than it is most recently, non citizens that were
committing crimes at a rate that was greater than nine
times the average American. Lack of affordable housing. But no,
(04:51):
what they cover porta potties. Porta potties, got it. There
is a reason I refer to GSS media. I think
you don't have to be particularly good at math to
know it's a much better value proposition for the citizens
of Florida to spend four hundred and fifty million dollars
(05:14):
to dispose of a problem as opposed to three point
seven billion to facilitate it. So those are my thoughts
about that, and again probably the Fed's picking up the
tab anyway. As for the daily detentions, the most recent
data available from June, and what we know is that
Florida has been second only to Texas and detentions, with
(05:36):
ice arrests rising by two hundred and nineteen percent within
our state year over year, with an average of sixty
four ice arrest within Florida every day. Assuming that average
has at least held through July, as appears likely to
have been the case, there are at least twelve thy
three hundred ice arrests that have taken place within Florida
since Inauguration Day. And while I understand that the question
(05:59):
was specifically ice detentions, what's potentially just as compelling, if
not more so, is the potential for self deportations across
our state. Now, my recent analysis based on jobs data
from the Bureau of Labor Statistics revealed that self deportations
appear to be running at a rate of about ten
to one what actual removals have been. So, using that
(06:19):
national data, if self deportations from within the state of
Florida were running at roughly that rate, it's possible that
over one hundred and twenty thousand illegal aliens from within
Florida have left on their own since January twentieth. As
I previously stated, one of the most effective aspects of
the Trump administration's detention operation is marketing. You know, Alligator
(06:42):
alcatrat serves that purpose as well. The bigger the deal
news outlets want to make out of all this, actually,
the more effective it is for the most efficient deportation
operation of all self deportations. So there is that aspect
to this
You have questions, Brian has answers. It's time for today's
Q and A of today. This is the Brian mut Show.
Happy for Friday to you as we dive into the
Q and A.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
How many ice attentions are taking place in the Florida.
This is brought to you, as always by me listened ashes,
check Mark collections. Each day feature a listener questions sent
by one of these methods. You may email me Brian
Mudd at iHeartMedia dot com, hand me up on social
at Brian Mud Radio. They also use the iHeartRadio talk
back feature. We'd love it. If you love us, go
(00:36):
into the I Already app. Make us you number one
precep make the Brian mudsho a podcast number two pre set.
While you're in there and look for a little microphone button.
See it, tap it. You may lay down the message
right there, maybe for a future Q and A. Today's
note this Brian, thank you for being our local voice
of sanity. You're welcome. We frequently hear about Alligator Alcatraz
(00:58):
and the number of detainees being held there. What I
haven't seen reported is how many detentions are coming from
Florida daily are for example, the detainees and Alligator Alcatraz
people detained in Florida. Also, what do you make of
the four hundred and fifty million dollars Florida is said
to be fronting to operate it? Thanks? All right, So
(01:20):
uh gonna start with the second question. First, No, the
detainees that Alligator Alcatraz are not all illegal aliens detained
within Florida, although it does look like most of them
are now. A couple of weeks ago, a list of
seven hundred illegal aliens housed at Alligator Alcatraz were released,
(01:42):
and detainees from at least six other locations were among
the names listed. Now standard operating procedure, it does result
in detainees being sent wherever the closest detention facility that's
available is. However, as you are probably aware, Trump administration
is faced a shortage of detention facilities as courts of
(02:02):
significantly slow deportations as ice intentions have ramped up. Hence
the effort to get Alligator Up Alcatraz up and running
as quickly as happened in the first place. So that
has resulted in detainees from some other states being sent
there as well. The exact numbers just unclear as for
(02:23):
the estimated four hundred and fifty million dollars annually to
operate Alligator Alcatraz one, the federal government will pick up some,
if not all, of the TAB two. It pales in
comparison to the cost of continuing to facilitate illegal immigration
as we had been previously.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
One of the things I find to be especially interesting
is that news media in general wasn't and hasn't been
interesting in covering the net cost of illegal immigration to Floridians.
But as my analysis under the Biden administration showed, the
annualized costs of maintaining status quo go immigration within our state,
oh that was running at about three point seven billion
(03:05):
dollars annually for a cost of four hundred and sixty
eight dollars per household within this state. To under the
Biden administration, you were paying an average of four hundred
and sixty eight bucks a year just to facilitate illegal immigration.
So I find it interesting that others in news reporting
didn't find it worthwhile to report on the three point
(03:28):
seven billion dollars in annual cost to keep illegal immigrants
in our communities, let alone additional crime, higher inflation, lack
of affordable housing all that, so they don't find it
interesting to investigate that aspect of things. But oh my gosh,
four hundred and fifty million dollars annually for a detention
(03:52):
facility to remove them, Now we care.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Brian, You know how much it's costing us to have
portu potties at alligat our alcatraz.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I am, I'm sure it is going to break the
back of the state's budget.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Twenty two million dollars, according to local TV reports. Could
have them go down the tube, down the toilet, twenty
two million dollars quite literally.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Huh yeah, So they're covering that aspect of this nown too.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
They did the whole They did a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Three point seven billion dollars in annual cost to keep
them here a crime rate that was double digit percentages
higher than it is most recently, non citizens that were
committing crimes at a rate that was greater than nine
times the average American. Lack of affordable housing. But no,
(04:51):
what they cover porta potties. Porta potties, got it. There
is a reason I refer to GSS media. I think
you don't have to be particularly good at math to
know it's a much better value proposition for the citizens
of Florida to spend four hundred and fifty million dollars
(05:14):
to dispose of a problem as opposed to three point
seven billion to facilitate it. So those are my thoughts
about that, and again probably the Fed's picking up the
tab anyway. As for the daily detentions, the most recent
data available from June, and what we know is that
Florida has been second only to Texas and detentions, with
(05:36):
ice arrests rising by two hundred and nineteen percent within
our state year over year, with an average of sixty
four ice arrest within Florida every day. Assuming that average
has at least held through July, as appears likely to
have been the case, there are at least twelve thy
three hundred ice arrests that have taken place within Florida
since Inauguration Day. And while I understand that the question
(05:59):
was specifically ice detentions, what's potentially just as compelling, if
not more so, is the potential for self deportations across
our state. Now, my recent analysis based on jobs data
from the Bureau of Labor Statistics revealed that self deportations
appear to be running at a rate of about ten
to one what actual removals have been. So, using that
(06:19):
national data, if self deportations from within the state of
Florida were running at roughly that rate, it's possible that
over one hundred and twenty thousand illegal aliens from within
Florida have left on their own since January twentieth. As
I previously stated, one of the most effective aspects of
the Trump administration's detention operation is marketing. You know, Alligator
(06:42):
alcatrat serves that purpose as well. The bigger the deal
news outlets want to make out of all this, actually,
the more effective it is for the most efficient deportation
operation of all self deportations. So there is that aspect
to this
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