Q&A – Paying for Criminal Illegal Immigrants

Once here, their problems become our problems and lord knows that with the historic scope of illegal immigration into the United States during the Biden administration, we’ll be paying for those problems for a long time to come. 

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Hi Brian, Today's which would be monday's civil versus criminal
charges for illegal immigrants race to mind something I've wondered about.
Why is it that those convicted do their time here?
Why can the sentence not be immediate removal from the

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US with no possibility of return depending on the country
we could suggest to their home country, but they incarcerate
their citizen appropriately or even gimo if it's less expensive
than US prison. I would love not to pay yet
more tax paya money to keep them in the relative
ease of US prisons. What say you, well, and to

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give you an idea, I mean, like some of the
offenders here, and I think this also kind of helps
set the stage with the conversation. Here are some of
the bad actors that were just taken down in Florida
with Operation.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Title Wave ICE highlighting certain arrests that include a Russian
national with an Interpol red notice for manslaughter, a man
convicted of homicide in Columbia. Officials say he entered the
US as a god away, also an alleged Guatemalan MS
thirteen gang member, and a man from Honduras, a suspected

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terrorist member of the eighteenth Street Gang.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
So you start thinking, for a moment, hold on the
Russian to Russia, the Colombian murderer, why was he not
behind bars in the first place to be able to
come across our border. You start to put some of
those pieces together. I'll tie this up here in a moment.
So today's note does pick up on yesterday's Q and A,
where I broke down how our legal system handles illegal

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immigration cases and specifically the breakout between civil and criminal
illegal immigration cases. Before diving into today's stuff, here's a
quick refresh on it. Most aw of the immigration cases
are handled as civil offenses, and it's handled as a
civil matter when someone has entered the US without authorization

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or overstays of visa. Those situations are covered under the
Immigration and Nationality Act. Again as a civil offense. It's
a criminal offense when you have someone who does not
go to a port of entry, they evade authorities to
enter the country. Also, anybody who is smuggling any contraband
or anything that's that's not appropriate, and use of fraudulent documents,

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those types of things. So over the past decade, anywhere
from ninety five to ninety nine percent of all illegal
immigration cases have been handled as civil violations, and that
breakout should help to address one of the questions and
answer to the question about whether a sentence could be
deportation without the possibility of returning. But given that illegal

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immigrants who evade authorities to enter the United States are
part of the small percentage tried as criminal illegal aliens,
a sentence of deportation would pretty effectively be the same
as those handed to you a civil offense, right because
deportation is the endgame there too. Also, given that these

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illegal immigrants evaded authorities originally, you got a really strong
chance that they would try to do so again in
the future. To give you an idea, there was a
Department of Heamland Security study done on this and DHS
estimated thirty percent of people deported from the United States
at least attempt to re enter the United States. You

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hear with so many of these criminals, well they were
deported once or twice, and they're like, good gosh, yeah,
it's not that uncommon thirty percent that are deported to
try to make it back. So given the record low
rate of illegal immigration we're seeing currently that number is
probably going to drop during the Trump administration, but could
easily change with a different administration in the future. So

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for about a third of illegal immigrants, deportation has been
viewed more is like an inconvenience rather than a deterrent.
So that said, let's dive into the meat of today's
Q and A. The reason illegal immigrants are sentenced within
the United States is because there is one criminal code
within the United States. Title eighteen is the US Criminal Code,

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and it does not delineate sentencing guideline differences for citizens
as opposed to illegal immigrants, and it's not oversight, it
is intentional. The US Criminal Code only has jurisdiction within
the United States, and so while like Interpoal for example,
in similar services show criminal convictions for those seeking to

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travel internationally, which can restrict future travel, a criminal conviction
within the United States only applies to the United States.
So the only way to ensure that a criminal illegal
immigrant serves time for their crimes is within our prison system,
followed by deportation once released. As for the angle of

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encouraging the countries of origin for illegal immigrants to hold
them accountable within their prisons, well, that is highly unlikely
for multiple reasons. Numerous countries are already reluctant or outright
refused to accept deporties, let alone those convicted of criminal
offenses within the United States. Many of these criminals were
actually intentionally released from prisons by many of these countries

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under the Bid administration. And additionally, many of these countries
would just not shoulder the expense or inconvenience of housing
criminal illegal immigrants. And also some of these countries don't
have the prison space. But wait, it is more because
while this unhappy story about criminal illegal immigrants continues, what's

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more is that, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies,
from Mexico south into Central and South America, what are
known as non state armed groups, so think like MS
thirteen and trend dea Ragua control half or more of
the prison population, leading to rampant corruption and instabuilding in

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these systems. So this dynamic is what makes like El
Salvador's current situation unique and one that the Trump administration
has been able to tap into for detaining illegal immigrants
to our known terrorists. As for the cost, well, the
typical costs per bed in a federal prison per year
runs just under forty four thousand dollars the cost per

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bed and GETMO for example Guantanamo Bay just a few
bucks more, just a staggering two hundred and seventy two
thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
A year.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
So yeah, gep MO definitely not the low cost all alternative,
that's for sure. Now, As for my thoughts on all this, look,
I hear you and understand. When it comes to paying
to imprison criminal illegal immigrants, it is frustrating. For that matter,
the hard cost to us for deporting illegal immigrants that
at pervates me too. So this dynamic is among the
many reasons why every effort should be made to prevent

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illegal immigration into the United States in the first place,
because once here their problems they become our problems. And
the Lord knows that with the historic scope of illegal
immigration into the United States during the Biden administration, boy,
we're going to be paying for those problems for a
long time to come.