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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, Today's Q and A the impact of open carrying
the firearms in Florida. This is brought to you by
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(00:20):
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something maybe for a future Q and A even today's
note this Hi Brian. I'd be interested in hearing from
(00:41):
Rick Branshaw or any other Florida Leo what it has
been like since open carrey has become the law. Personally,
I've had conversations with Leo's expressing straw men arguments. I
politely acknowledge their concern and let them know that twenty
five other states have opened carry. In these open carrey states,
(01:01):
their concerns have never been realized, and I hear you,
and I understand, and I have had many of these
conversations to know a lot of folks law enforcement have
a family law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Even those that are say, for example, very conservative in
their politics and our strong supporters to the Second Amendment
would prefer not to respond to an incident that has
people that are armed.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And I can tell you, Brian my discussions with mentioning
Palm Beach County shefferck Bradshaw there in the note he
was saying that nothing changes with regards to how his
deputies deal with us responding because they have always responded
with the assumption everybody on the scene is carrying.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Sure. Yeah, and that's a pragmatic thing to do, for sure,
Just kind of like in the conversationational line where you
know the gentleman saying, hey, you know, I've talked to
some leos that are are concerned about this. Again, if
you're put yourself in their shoes for a minute, I
get the good guy with a gun argument, But if
(02:14):
you're in law enforcement and you're responding to an emergency,
you don't want even the good guys with a gun right.
You want nobody with a gun right. That would be
your because I never know who to trust. Well, that's
number one, you don't know who to trust. Number two,
Mistakes can happen. It just all kinds of things, right,
so you can understand if you put yourself in their shoes,
(02:34):
especially this day and age, why they would express some concern.
And again I know people that are like on the
personal level, yeah, I'm all about this, but the moment
that they put on that badge and good work, they'd
rather not deal with it. So that that is not
necessarily in the hearing contradiction. It's just the reality of
the world that we live in. So anyway, following a
(02:56):
recent state court ruling striking down Florida's ban on the
open carrying of firearms, the open carrying officially took place
on September twenty fifth, and answered to the question regarding
the monitored impact in the early going, according to law enforcement,
I can tell you that as of now, we have
not had an arrest or citation for an open carry violation.
(03:19):
So I think that would be your answers that there's
been no impact. What is important to note there are
still fifteen places where it is prohibited to open carry,
and so people do need to be aware of this.
They include any place of nuisance as to find under
state law, any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station. Again,
(03:43):
these are all places where you may not open carry.
Any detention facility, prison, or jail, any courthouse, any court room,
any polling place, any meeting of the governing body of
a county, public school, district, municipality, or special district. Any
(04:06):
meeting of the legislature or a committee thereof any school, college,
or professional athletic event not related to firearms, any elementary
or secondary school facility or administration building, any career center,
any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages
(04:29):
for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment
is primarily devoted to such purpose. Any college or university facility,
unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty
member of such college or university, and the weapon is
a stun gun or non lethal electronic weapon or device
(04:51):
designed solely for defensive purposes, and the weapon does not
fire a dart or projectile. The inside of the passenger
terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no
person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into
the terminal which firearm is in case for shipment for
purposes of checking firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported
(05:16):
on any aircraft in any place where the carrying of
firearms is prohibited by federal law. So again, those are
the fifteen different restrictions that do still exist as it
pertains to open carry. It's important to know that as
for the overall impact of open carry policies, You're right,
(05:36):
the premise behind your note today is absolutely right. Preceding
Floor's recent legalization, you had thirty one states that allow
open carry without a permit. Some suggest is twenty nine
due to the level of restrictions of a couple of
those states. So in other words, most of the country
has already allowed for it, and the figure includes even
several troditional blue states like Delaware, Maine, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Pencilvania,
(06:00):
Vermont in Washington. And in some cases people are surprised
by that, are like, you know, Delaware voted or Vermont
voted to open No, they didn't, They just never put
it in their their state contant. It was always there.
It's been there since their states founding, And so that
is where it gets where it comes to the point
(06:20):
in a lot of these places, it's just always has
been so. Permitless carry states often including open carry, do
have lower average violent crime rates. If you take a
look at those with the least restrictive gun policy in
the country, the violent crime rate last year three hundred
and fifty four violent crimes per one hundred thousand in
(06:42):
population compared to three hundred and ninety one per one
hundred thousand otherwise. And then if you take a look
at the twenty nine states this year, you know, we've
seen the crime that has dropped through the first half
of the year.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Those with.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
The least restrict of gun laws, we have seen lower
crime in those states, up to sixty percent less than
what we saw previously. And then when you take a
look at things, just kind of the trend line here,
relaxing firearm restrictions has resulted in less crime. Most recently,
(07:24):
preceding Florida's legal changes, sixteen states loosened firearm restrictions over
the prior five years. Of them, ten of those sixteen
states saw a decline in violent crime. Five about flat one,
which happened to be Alaska, had a meaningful increase in
crime and homicide rates approximately seven percent lower after the
(07:47):
gun laws were loosened. So yeah, I mean what you're
saying is correct ultimately about the overall crime rates.
Yeah, Today's Q and A the impact of open carrying
the firearms in Florida. This is brought to you by
my listen ashes check Mark collections. Each day a feature
listener question that's since by one of these methods. You
may email me Brian Mudd at iHeartMedia dot com, hand
me up by social ats Brian Mud Radio. You may
also use the iHeartRadio talk back feature. We love it.
(00:20):
If you would love us, just go into the app,
make us your number one preset, then the Brian Mudshow
podcast number two preset, and while you're in there, we
would love it if you'd also hit a little microphone
button and I leave a message. Therefore us could be
something maybe for a future Q and A even today's
note this Hi Brian. I'd be interested in hearing from
(00:41):
Rick Branshaw or any other Florida Leo what it has
been like since open carrey has become the law. Personally,
I've had conversations with Leo's expressing straw men arguments. I
politely acknowledge their concern and let them know that twenty
five other states have opened carry. In these open carrey states,
(01:01):
their concerns have never been realized, and I hear you,
and I understand, and I have had many of these
conversations to know a lot of folks law enforcement have
a family law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Even those that are say, for example, very conservative in
their politics and our strong supporters to the Second Amendment
would prefer not to respond to an incident that has
people that are armed.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And I can tell you, Brian my discussions with mentioning
Palm Beach County shefferck Bradshaw there in the note he
was saying that nothing changes with regards to how his
deputies deal with us responding because they have always responded
with the assumption everybody on the scene is carrying.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Sure. Yeah, and that's a pragmatic thing to do, for sure,
Just kind of like in the conversationational line where you
know the gentleman saying, hey, you know, I've talked to
some leos that are are concerned about this. Again, if
you're put yourself in their shoes for a minute, I
get the good guy with a gun argument, But if
(02:14):
you're in law enforcement and you're responding to an emergency,
you don't want even the good guys with a gun right.
You want nobody with a gun right. That would be
your because I never know who to trust. Well, that's
number one, you don't know who to trust. Number two,
Mistakes can happen. It just all kinds of things, right,
so you can understand if you put yourself in their shoes,
(02:34):
especially this day and age, why they would express some concern.
And again I know people that are like on the
personal level, yeah, I'm all about this, but the moment
that they put on that badge and good work, they'd
rather not deal with it. So that that is not
necessarily in the hearing contradiction. It's just the reality of
the world that we live in. So anyway, following a
(02:56):
recent state court ruling striking down Florida's ban on the
open carrying of firearms, the open carrying officially took place
on September twenty fifth, and answered to the question regarding
the monitored impact in the early going, according to law enforcement,
I can tell you that as of now, we have
not had an arrest or citation for an open carry violation.
(03:19):
So I think that would be your answers that there's
been no impact. What is important to note there are
still fifteen places where it is prohibited to open carry,
and so people do need to be aware of this.
They include any place of nuisance as to find under
state law, any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station. Again,
(03:43):
these are all places where you may not open carry.
Any detention facility, prison, or jail, any courthouse, any court room,
any polling place, any meeting of the governing body of
a county, public school, district, municipality, or special district. Any
(04:06):
meeting of the legislature or a committee thereof any school, college,
or professional athletic event not related to firearms, any elementary
or secondary school facility or administration building, any career center,
any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages
(04:29):
for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment
is primarily devoted to such purpose. Any college or university facility,
unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty
member of such college or university, and the weapon is
a stun gun or non lethal electronic weapon or device
(04:51):
designed solely for defensive purposes, and the weapon does not
fire a dart or projectile. The inside of the passenger
terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no
person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into
the terminal which firearm is in case for shipment for
purposes of checking firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported
(05:16):
on any aircraft in any place where the carrying of
firearms is prohibited by federal law. So again, those are
the fifteen different restrictions that do still exist as it
pertains to open carry. It's important to know that as
for the overall impact of open carry policies, You're right,
(05:36):
the premise behind your note today is absolutely right. Preceding
Floor's recent legalization, you had thirty one states that allow
open carry without a permit. Some suggest is twenty nine
due to the level of restrictions of a couple of
those states. So in other words, most of the country
has already allowed for it, and the figure includes even
several troditional blue states like Delaware, Maine, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Pencilvania,
(06:00):
Vermont in Washington. And in some cases people are surprised
by that, are like, you know, Delaware voted or Vermont
voted to open No, they didn't, They just never put
it in their their state contant. It was always there.
It's been there since their states founding, And so that
is where it gets where it comes to the point
(06:20):
in a lot of these places, it's just always has
been so. Permitless carry states often including open carry, do
have lower average violent crime rates. If you take a
look at those with the least restrictive gun policy in
the country, the violent crime rate last year three hundred
and fifty four violent crimes per one hundred thousand in
(06:42):
population compared to three hundred and ninety one per one
hundred thousand otherwise. And then if you take a look
at the twenty nine states this year, you know, we've
seen the crime that has dropped through the first half
of the year.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Those with.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
The least restrict of gun laws, we have seen lower
crime in those states, up to sixty percent less than
what we saw previously. And then when you take a
look at things, just kind of the trend line here,
relaxing firearm restrictions has resulted in less crime. Most recently,
(07:24):
preceding Florida's legal changes, sixteen states loosened firearm restrictions over
the prior five years. Of them, ten of those sixteen
states saw a decline in violent crime. Five about flat one,
which happened to be Alaska, had a meaningful increase in
crime and homicide rates approximately seven percent lower after the
(07:47):
gun laws were loosened. So yeah, I mean what you're
saying is correct ultimately about the overall crime rates.
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