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July 9, 2025 14 mins
It’s hard to imagine that on July 9th Americans could be more skeptical of what really went down with Jeffrey Epstein and company than say on January 9th. But it appears to be that way.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Brian Munt Show, and thank you for listening.
It's time for today's Top three takeaways. Helpful, useful, refeatable.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
The education state, and the dojys state of confusion. As
we dive in to takeaways on this Wednesday, I actually
want to starve us the news that broke by Fox
Digital last night that some of the bad actors or
alleged bad actors during the Trump Russia collusion and investigation,

(00:37):
like one James Talltales comy and former CIA director John Brennan,
they are under criminal investigation related to the Russia collusion
hoax their alleged roles in it. You had Press Secretary

(00:58):
Caroline Levitt Jesse Waters last night talking about this, had
this to say.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Both of these disgraceful individuals turned against our constitution in
our country and I'm sure they did in fact lie
to Congress and it's up to the Department of Justice
to investigate that and to prosecute them if they did.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
And I mean, you say a horrible individual, but I
mean Jamescobs likes his seashells.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
And just randomly that comes upon them. Maybe you know,
it's not like it's his fault. That he comes upon
them and has to Well, he.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Didn't have to. He chose to because he liked the
shape of the shells.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
And the message that's true. That's what he came across
that and like the world needs to see. So anyway,
oh wait, that was a really really hateful message, maybe
something that would indicate offering the president. I didn't really
just like my cell shells, you know. So anyway, my
top takeaway for you today not about that. I will

(01:56):
have more on on that topic tomorrow for you, but
the education state. The education state is my top takeaway.
I've spent some additional time with the Florida Assessment information yesterday,
and there's a story that really needs to be told.
It's so much better than just hey, you know, we
got some school districts that are doing well and some

(02:16):
schools that are doing well, and there's some progress here
and there.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Put this in perspective for you.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
You know, Florida has now ranked first or second in
K through college education for three consecutive years. But when
most think of the Sunshine State, still don't still don't
realize that our state is continuing to lead the way educationally, right,
I mean, how many times you hear like, yeah, you know,

(02:41):
Florda's really great with education.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
What well, you're laughing, Joel.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
I mean I hear it on this show when you
look at the actual facts.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
But I mean, but you're saying like out there in
the ethos. Now the reality is connected that yeah, you
don't hear it.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
You do not, you do not.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
And so while the additional news of this year's Florida
assessment progress was impressive was significant progress and student performance
improved performance with fifty six percent of K through twelve
public schools, there's that much more to the story when
you actually take a look at the longer view. Now,
Governor d Santis has a lot that he can take

(03:20):
credit for regarding the outperformance in pretty much every way
with our state. But perhaps nowhere is his personal impact
more profound and will his legacy be greater than what's
happened with public education. You may recall in twenty eighteen,
Rodney Santis ran the campaign focused on ending the common
Core curriculum in Florida's public schools, and instead he sought

(03:44):
to implement the best standards By February twenty twenty, just
prior to the impact of the pandemic, the conversion was complete.
From there, Governor d Santis fought successfully to implement printal
rights and education, beating back the wokeness promoted by teachers
unions that have worked its way into our classrooms.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
And speaking of.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Teachers unions, well, they're just far fewer union teachers in Florida.
You know, there are many more teachers teaching within the
state of Florida, but they're actually twenty four thousand fewer
that are in the teachers' union than prior to DeSantis
becoming governor. And what have we seen rising graduation rates

(04:25):
that have reached record high seventy one percent of Florida's
public schools that are now either A or B schools,
that is up from fifty eight percent in twenty eighteen.
They're also now fewer than half of the number of
D or F rated schools, like over sixty percent fewer
DRF schools as well. So these are all contributing reasons

(04:45):
as to why Florida has continued to be first or
second in education in the country in recent years. Se Yeah,
a focus on teaching the basics as opposed to wakeness,
and it's starting printal rights as opposed to the AFT
and fea's agenda consistently better results. So imagine that it's
a plant that has definitely come together. The Sunshine State

(05:06):
has become the Education State, whether people tend to recognize
it or not. Great story that continues to get better
by the year, and it's Governor de Santis' greatest accomplishment
to date and not saying something because his money. My
second takeaway for you today switching gears, although there very
much is a local component to it, not buying it,

(05:30):
not buying it. It's hard to imagine that on July ninth,
Americans could be more skeptical of what really went down
with Jeffrey Epstein and company than say, on January ninth,
but it appears to be that way. So, as we
discussed on Monday, the US Department of Justice, in conjunction
with the FBI, issued an official memo leaked through axios,

(05:53):
effectively saying that as far as epstein stuff goes, nothing
more to see here DOJ's line is that he really
did take his own life, he didn't actually have a
client list, and that effectively, as far as Epstein.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Is concerned, it's case closed. Joel Look's very convinced. I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Now.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Of course, there's only like one problem or maybe one
thousand problems with this. It's what I referenced to start
the show yesterday. It is not possible to RECOGNI reconcile
this with what Attorney General Pam Bondi said in February.
This is the exchange with John Roberts of Fox News.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Well, that really happened.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's
been a directive by President Trump.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
I'm reviewing that.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Now.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
It doesn't exist. It's sitting on my desk right now. Now.
It doesn't exist.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
By the way, if you were, you're counting any big
reveals there on the JFK files or mL MLK. So yeah,
it would not be holding your breath about now. So okay,
if this were any matter of significant public interest, this

(07:25):
contradiction would at best be a credibility problem. When you
consider that it involves a matter that was already viewed
as a likely conspiracy by most to begin with, the
situation becomes that much more problematic. Give you an idea
following the death of Jeffrey Epstein in prison. According to

(07:48):
Rasmussen's pulling, this goes back to twenty nineteen. Now after
this happened, fifty two percent of Americans believed that Epstein
was murdered. Well, only twenty one percent to believe the
company line that he committed committed suicide. Again, this is
twenty nineteen after it happened. We are fifty two to
twenty one conspiracy territory, right, Okay, now it's much worse

(08:13):
over the past day. Sinclair Media pulled on this question
again and their question, do you trust the DOJ FBI memo?
And so you don't necessarily have to think that everything
around the whole Epstein deal is a conspiracy, but just
are you buying what the DOJ is selling? Are you

(08:35):
picking up what they're putting down? Ninety percent said no,
ninety So we've gone from fifty two to around ninety percent.
And with that, government credibility with the Epstein thing has
reached apparently a new low for Pam Bondy. You got
two challenges and two things that she needs to address,
and actually she did, to her credit, come public on

(08:58):
this yesterday.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I don't have that here for you.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
In a second, the first issue is the Elked memo
to Axios, because well, she's got a leaker, so there's that.
But the second, of course, is Okay, if we were
to take that memo at face value today, why did
she lie about what was on her desk in February?

(09:21):
She had this to say about that yesterday.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
I was asked a question about the client list, and
my response was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed,
meaning the file along with the JFK MLK.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Files as well.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
That's what I meant by that.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
But that's not what you were asked about. That's that's
the issue. That's not what you So, you know, Brian,
I want to give her the bet. I really want
to be if she was a really good attorney General
for the State of Florida, Greed.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yeah, and so I mean I did have one one
thing that came up once upon a time, Okay it.

Speaker 6 (09:59):
Was, and so I just want to give her I'm
just wondering if she back in February, if she was
just talking big, you know, new on the job, and yeah,
I'm gonna have something big and didn't know anything, not
that that not that that's good.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
That does not make any Well here's what I would
say about that. And this is the other like, you know,
my third takeaway today, by the way, is people are
right to be skeptical.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Right, people are right to be skeptical.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
If that was the case, why didn't she come out
like the next day and say, oh, well, what I
meant was yeah, correct file itself, not Epstein's client list,
which is what the question or any of the I
don't know one hundred days plus that took place between
that interview and yesterday when she came back, and so
why would you have not clarified that previously? We've been

(10:50):
misled And the only question is is how and in
which way?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Making the matter worse?

Speaker 5 (10:57):
In the also released video, so as part of the memo,
there was also the video release. And by the way,
this is what you know. Bongino had previously said, yeah,
we got the video.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Nothing there.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Well, the first thing is like, if you thought this
is a video of Epstein Cell, Like when we heard
there was a video, originally I thought, oh, well they
had like a you know, a video on Epstein Cell.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
This is compelling.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
No, it was the hallway from like outside the janitor's
closet looking down and so it's not even his cell,
but it's the hallway.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
And then.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Here the fun part is the night that he died.
The video skips from eleven fifty eight fifty eight to
exactly midnight and picks up again. Okay, nothing to see
there for that minute in two second. I had nothing

(11:56):
ever addressed about it, right, So what happened in the
minute in two said? It seconds? A question and seemingly
the DJ didn't think it required any kind of an explanation,
just like, oh yeah, here's the evidence that nothing happened.
Hold on, and your evidence that nothing happened, that, by
the way, is not actually Epstein's cell.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
There's a minute in two seconds missing.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
Right around the time that there are concerns that.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's when he died.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
If it really is innocent, it couldn't be handled worse,
is the thing, from what she said to John Roberts
Bondie to this, just oh, here's the video, here's the print.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
What you're missing time?

Speaker 5 (12:43):
So anyway, and the other thing, and look, this is
being picked up on by other media and it's vallalid.
Given how poor this rollout is. Trump didn't want to
he was asked about this. Trump was asked about this
yesterday too, and he said, look, you're still talking about
the Epstein thing. We got Texas, we got all this
world stuff going on. You're you're you want to talk
about that. A horrible man. So Trump is like, you know,

(13:06):
I want nothing to do with this at this point.
But of course you'll recall that an immediate aftermath of
the fallout with Elon Musk must post it without any
evidence that the reason the epsteinc clist client list hadn't
been produced is because Trump was on it. Right now,
He immediately almost immediately deleted that post, sitting late later
regretted it. But where did that come from? Why did

(13:30):
he just reach into that bucket?

Speaker 6 (13:32):
And all this does is add to that, right, add
to that for people that want to say you've correct.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Yeah, I mean so it hurts him that way too,
because yeah, it's all over the place in a lot
of media, and you know, there's there's a reason to
be skeptical.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Again.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
So anyway, a whole lot of explaining to do by
Attorney General BONDI by it for now looks like Trump'
stick and buy her A lot of people ray, including
on the right ready to throw her overboard.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
We'll see what happens.
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