June 18, 2025 • 12 mins
The easy thing to do, at least for now, is nothing and just led Israel pummel Iran’s government and infrastructure into the ground with a hope that something better comes out of it. But does that necessarily mean that the hard thing is the right thing?
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey, thanks for listening, and welcome back to the Brian
Mud Show.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Time now for today's top three takeaways.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Israel Ron war. What should Trump do? What's the
right thing to do? Is we dive into takeaways today. First,
congratulations to the back to back Stanley Cup champion Florida Panthers.
You know a lot of folks are going to be
out of pocket for much of the day today, slow
start for many in South Florida. Seriously, that we'll see
our boss today.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I think we he was at the game, right he was.
I think we heard him in that sound that piece
of sound up. My news, wasn't that him did? Sound
didn't sound like it could have been. The last I heard.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He originally was going to be the designated driver last night,
and yes.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
That didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Well, No, we ended up not being the designated driver.
The arrangements changed and he was not going to be
the d SO on top of everything.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Else, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So but anyway, Yeah, congrats, awesome sauce, just great stuff
to see. And I just get a kick as well
out of Florida. I mean, obviously you know for the
Panthers right now, but the state of Florida dominating this
decade of hokey.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
And beating and beating a team from Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, twice in a row.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, and they're they're all kinds of you know, little
additional wins beyond the championship itself. So anyway, but yeah,
you might have noticed little tents, little tents in the
Middle East right now?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
All right, So as we take a look at the
landscape heading into today, Foxes Jonathan Savage.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Speculations growing that President Donald Trump might help Israel destroy
around nuclear facilities move says the Iranian Foreign Ministry, that
would be a recipe for all out war in the region.
President Trump has distanced himself from the attacks so far,
but hinted at greater involvement. The Pentagon has also sent
more warplanes to the region.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay, right, my top takeaway today it's the hard thing,
but is it the right thing? It's the hard thing,
but is it the right thing? Now you're familiar with
the saying the right thing to do is the hardest
thing to do, right, I've definitely heard it. Yeah, you
have any idea where it came from?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Absolutely none?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And that's okay, because I don't think anybody else has
a definitive answer either. I looked for that answer extensively
yesterday and could not find anybody who coined that phrase,
anybody that it was attributed to. And that's probably due
to a couple of reasons. The first is just how
(02:54):
old the same probably is, and then secondarily, the origin
itself is most likely from the Bible. I'll explain here
in second. And if you think about the principle behind
the scene, the right thing to do is the hardest
thing to do. Well, the right thing implies what it implies,
(03:16):
a righteousness, morality, and the hardest thing to do. And
you start looking for context in it, it looks like
the impetus behind that particular saying is found in Matthew
Matthew seven thirteen through fourteen. It states, enter through the
narrow gate. For wide is the gate, and broad is
(03:39):
the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
But small is the gate, and narrow the road that
leads to life, and only a few find it.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Okay, Now, without thinking.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Too hard, you can kind of see where that passage
could be summarized under the saying the right thing to
do is the hardest thing to do, Because obviously, if
the right thing is a small and narrow path that
few managed to stay on. That is the hardest thing
to do, but the right thing.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Now, clearly, my.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Top takeaway today is not a random dose of historical
philosophy or theology.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And although.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I not only thought of that saying in the context
of my top takeaway today, but then also thought that
the likely inspiration behind the scene was probably appropriate too,
because the implications of what are at hand with a
nuclear iron, especially in the context Israel, does kind of
bring about a biblical context to that as well. About
(04:51):
all this, I'm going to save the details on what
I'm about to share with you for today's Q and A.
But the bottom line is this, it does appear to
be realistic or maybe even possible, to put a permanent
end to Iran's nuclear program unless it's the United States
that actually does it. As in, literally, we have the
(05:11):
only bombs that have a chance and the only bombers
that can drop those bombs. And I don't pretend to
begin to know the scope of what President Trump has
been through since leaving the G seven and heading almost
immediately to the situation room that he's been in and
out of multiple times since, but I can't help it
to think that this very specific dynamic is the key.
(05:33):
The Iranian regime is obviously reeling. It's in the weakest
position we've seen since the Iatolas came into power in
nineteen seventy nine, and it leads me to my second
takeaway today. Is permanently putting an end to Iran's nuclear
program in our interest? That's about the easiest question I've
(05:54):
got in my takeaways today. Here's more from Jonathan Savage.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Is more than fifty fighter jets took part in raids
on Tehran this morning, striking a factory that makes centrifuges
for Iran's nuclear program. Thousands are said to be fleeing
the city following urgent advice from the Israeli government. Iran
meanwhile sent two rounds of missiles towards Israel in the
early hours.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Right, So, yeah, I mean, is permanently putting an end
to Iran's nuclear program in our interests?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Are you looking to me for an answer to that?
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I think it's everybody's interest. Yes, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
The problem is it's basically rhetorical.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The problem is is you know how when you get
to that, what happens?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So, given the clear opportunity to be able to do so,
does the US decide to put an end to it
because Israel can? There are all kinds of questions around this, like,
for example, how would the US directly dropping the world's
most non nuclear bombs be considered anything other than an
(07:04):
act of war and therefore perhaps one that may only
be able to be done constitutionally through an Act of Congress.
How many Americans have an appetite for any direct US
military offensive in Iran, which, by the way, I do
have an answer to that in the moment. Would President Trump,
the America first president who is staunchly against US interventionist wars,
(07:29):
but he really give the order to drop the bombs?
And then there's the question that carries with it potentially
even greater implications, the massive constitutional question, what would China
and Russia? Do you know China and Russia they are
Iran's biggest allies, and it may be the case that
they'd be on board with the US finishing the job,
(07:50):
because it's been clear that while allied up to this point,
neither China or Russia want the IA tools to have
nuclear bombs. But would that still be the case if
there was a US military offensive or is there even
a small chance that this type of action could lead to.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I don't know, world War.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So for these reasons, and especially for those of us
on the outside, boyd's especially hard to know what the
right thing to do is. This is my third takeaway today,
Fox is my Commanuel.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
President Trump is warning he is losing patience with the
Iranian regime, calling for unconditional surrender. The President also publicly
warned Iran's I told Ahamanee, writing, we know exactly where
the so called Supreme Leader is hiding. He's an easy target,
but it is safe there. We are not going to
take him out kill, at least not for now.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So the easy thing to do, at least for now nothing.
Just let Israel pauml Iron's government and infrastructure into the
ground with a hope that something better comes out of it.
But does that necessarily mean that the hard thing is
the right thing? Not necessarily, because the right thing is unclear, including,
by the way, a scenario in which the US does
drop the world's most devastating non nuclear bombs on arounds
(09:08):
nuclear sites, but still isn't successful in permanently taking them offline.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Boy that would be a massive mess.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I mean, there's one thing that is definitive in this conversation,
and that is if, by chance we did decide to
go full gap ban and drop the bombs. Boy, you
better better be right about that. Now, if you think
your way through this, if there's any realistic thought that
(09:36):
the US should intervene, there would almost necessarily need to
be a preliminary agreement, and this would have to take
place behind closed doors. Could not be in the light
of day. But you'd have to pretty much have an
agreement between Presidents Trump Putin and She to really the
only way that the risk at this point could be
(09:58):
determined to be worth it. You'd have to make sure
that they would be on board. Lay in the US
just go ahead and finish finished the nuclear program off
without an escalation and conflicts. But even then, if you
have that, could you trust them, you know, maybe behind
closed doors, but and she say yeah, go ahead and
do it, and then you do it, and they used
(10:19):
that as the public catalysts to escalate.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I mean, there's so many questions, so there may be
a situation and this might be one of them where
there really aren't right answers or at least the definitively
right thing to do. It is rather clear what the
country things. So a you Guff poll release yesterday shows
that only sixteen percent sixteen percent of Americans support direct
(10:47):
US military intervention in the war between Israel and Iran.
And it is clear that Americans, regardless of where they
fall in the ideological scale, overwhelmingly want Trump to do
the easiest thing here, although can also be said that
most Americans associate military intervention with the endless and a
time seemingly pointless wars that we fought with boots on
(11:07):
the ground for generations.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I mean, really since World War Two?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And so I do wonder and I do think this
question would be important as they follow up, Would Americans
feel differently if it were truly a matter of dropping
nine bombs, flying away and being done with it?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
At least in theory nine bombs that's it?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I mean, does that change the thought process with people?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I don't know. I don't know the answer of it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So you say you want to be president, Huh, what
is it that you would do if you were in
Trump shoes? What is it that Trump will choose? And
will that be the right thing to do? I got
bad Blond burning right now. The Brian Mojo podcast is
driven by Brayman motor Cars. My family is a Brayman
(11:59):
Motor Cars family. Your family should be to visit Braymanmotorcars
dot com
Hey, thanks for listening, and welcome back to the Brian
Mud Show.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Time now for today's top three takeaways.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Israel Ron war. What should Trump do? What's the
right thing to do? Is we dive into takeaways today. First,
congratulations to the back to back Stanley Cup champion Florida Panthers.
You know a lot of folks are going to be
out of pocket for much of the day today, slow
start for many in South Florida. Seriously, that we'll see
our boss today.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I think we he was at the game, right he was.
I think we heard him in that sound that piece
of sound up. My news, wasn't that him did? Sound
didn't sound like it could have been. The last I heard.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He originally was going to be the designated driver last night,
and yes.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
That didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Well, No, we ended up not being the designated driver.
The arrangements changed and he was not going to be
the d SO on top of everything.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Else, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So but anyway, Yeah, congrats, awesome sauce, just great stuff
to see. And I just get a kick as well
out of Florida. I mean, obviously you know for the
Panthers right now, but the state of Florida dominating this
decade of hokey.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
And beating and beating a team from Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, twice in a row.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, and they're they're all kinds of you know, little
additional wins beyond the championship itself. So anyway, but yeah,
you might have noticed little tents, little tents in the
Middle East right now?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
All right, So as we take a look at the
landscape heading into today, Foxes Jonathan Savage.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Speculations growing that President Donald Trump might help Israel destroy
around nuclear facilities move says the Iranian Foreign Ministry, that
would be a recipe for all out war in the region.
President Trump has distanced himself from the attacks so far,
but hinted at greater involvement. The Pentagon has also sent
more warplanes to the region.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay, right, my top takeaway today it's the hard thing,
but is it the right thing? It's the hard thing,
but is it the right thing? Now you're familiar with
the saying the right thing to do is the hardest
thing to do, right, I've definitely heard it. Yeah, you
have any idea where it came from?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Absolutely none?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And that's okay, because I don't think anybody else has
a definitive answer either. I looked for that answer extensively
yesterday and could not find anybody who coined that phrase,
anybody that it was attributed to. And that's probably due
to a couple of reasons. The first is just how
(02:54):
old the same probably is, and then secondarily, the origin
itself is most likely from the Bible. I'll explain here
in second. And if you think about the principle behind
the scene, the right thing to do is the hardest
thing to do. Well, the right thing implies what it implies,
(03:16):
a righteousness, morality, and the hardest thing to do. And
you start looking for context in it, it looks like
the impetus behind that particular saying is found in Matthew
Matthew seven thirteen through fourteen. It states, enter through the
narrow gate. For wide is the gate, and broad is
(03:39):
the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
But small is the gate, and narrow the road that
leads to life, and only a few find it.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Okay, Now, without thinking.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Too hard, you can kind of see where that passage
could be summarized under the saying the right thing to
do is the hardest thing to do, Because obviously, if
the right thing is a small and narrow path that
few managed to stay on. That is the hardest thing
to do, but the right thing.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Now, clearly, my.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Top takeaway today is not a random dose of historical
philosophy or theology.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And although.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I not only thought of that saying in the context
of my top takeaway today, but then also thought that
the likely inspiration behind the scene was probably appropriate too,
because the implications of what are at hand with a
nuclear iron, especially in the context Israel, does kind of
bring about a biblical context to that as well. About
(04:51):
all this, I'm going to save the details on what
I'm about to share with you for today's Q and A.
But the bottom line is this, it does appear to
be realistic or maybe even possible, to put a permanent
end to Iran's nuclear program unless it's the United States
that actually does it. As in, literally, we have the
(05:11):
only bombs that have a chance and the only bombers
that can drop those bombs. And I don't pretend to
begin to know the scope of what President Trump has
been through since leaving the G seven and heading almost
immediately to the situation room that he's been in and
out of multiple times since, but I can't help it
to think that this very specific dynamic is the key.
(05:33):
The Iranian regime is obviously reeling. It's in the weakest
position we've seen since the Iatolas came into power in
nineteen seventy nine, and it leads me to my second
takeaway today. Is permanently putting an end to Iran's nuclear
program in our interest? That's about the easiest question I've
(05:54):
got in my takeaways today. Here's more from Jonathan Savage.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Is more than fifty fighter jets took part in raids
on Tehran this morning, striking a factory that makes centrifuges
for Iran's nuclear program. Thousands are said to be fleeing
the city following urgent advice from the Israeli government. Iran
meanwhile sent two rounds of missiles towards Israel in the
early hours.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Right, So, yeah, I mean, is permanently putting an end
to Iran's nuclear program in our interests?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Are you looking to me for an answer to that?
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I think it's everybody's interest. Yes, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
The problem is it's basically rhetorical.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The problem is is you know how when you get
to that, what happens?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So, given the clear opportunity to be able to do so,
does the US decide to put an end to it
because Israel can? There are all kinds of questions around this, like,
for example, how would the US directly dropping the world's
most non nuclear bombs be considered anything other than an
(07:04):
act of war and therefore perhaps one that may only
be able to be done constitutionally through an Act of Congress.
How many Americans have an appetite for any direct US
military offensive in Iran, which, by the way, I do
have an answer to that in the moment. Would President Trump,
the America first president who is staunchly against US interventionist wars,
(07:29):
but he really give the order to drop the bombs?
And then there's the question that carries with it potentially
even greater implications, the massive constitutional question, what would China
and Russia? Do you know China and Russia they are
Iran's biggest allies, and it may be the case that
they'd be on board with the US finishing the job,
(07:50):
because it's been clear that while allied up to this point,
neither China or Russia want the IA tools to have
nuclear bombs. But would that still be the case if
there was a US military offensive or is there even
a small chance that this type of action could lead to.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I don't know, world War.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So for these reasons, and especially for those of us
on the outside, boyd's especially hard to know what the
right thing to do is. This is my third takeaway today,
Fox is my Commanuel.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
President Trump is warning he is losing patience with the
Iranian regime, calling for unconditional surrender. The President also publicly
warned Iran's I told Ahamanee, writing, we know exactly where
the so called Supreme Leader is hiding. He's an easy target,
but it is safe there. We are not going to
take him out kill, at least not for now.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So the easy thing to do, at least for now nothing.
Just let Israel pauml Iron's government and infrastructure into the
ground with a hope that something better comes out of it.
But does that necessarily mean that the hard thing is
the right thing? Not necessarily, because the right thing is unclear, including,
by the way, a scenario in which the US does
drop the world's most devastating non nuclear bombs on arounds
(09:08):
nuclear sites, but still isn't successful in permanently taking them offline.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Boy that would be a massive mess.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I mean, there's one thing that is definitive in this conversation,
and that is if, by chance we did decide to
go full gap ban and drop the bombs. Boy, you
better better be right about that. Now, if you think
your way through this, if there's any realistic thought that
(09:36):
the US should intervene, there would almost necessarily need to
be a preliminary agreement, and this would have to take
place behind closed doors. Could not be in the light
of day. But you'd have to pretty much have an
agreement between Presidents Trump Putin and She to really the
only way that the risk at this point could be
(09:58):
determined to be worth it. You'd have to make sure
that they would be on board. Lay in the US
just go ahead and finish finished the nuclear program off
without an escalation and conflicts. But even then, if you
have that, could you trust them, you know, maybe behind
closed doors, but and she say yeah, go ahead and
do it, and then you do it, and they used
(10:19):
that as the public catalysts to escalate.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I mean, there's so many questions, so there may be
a situation and this might be one of them where
there really aren't right answers or at least the definitively
right thing to do. It is rather clear what the
country things. So a you Guff poll release yesterday shows
that only sixteen percent sixteen percent of Americans support direct
(10:47):
US military intervention in the war between Israel and Iran.
And it is clear that Americans, regardless of where they
fall in the ideological scale, overwhelmingly want Trump to do
the easiest thing here, although can also be said that
most Americans associate military intervention with the endless and a
time seemingly pointless wars that we fought with boots on
(11:07):
the ground for generations.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I mean, really since World War Two?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And so I do wonder and I do think this
question would be important as they follow up, Would Americans
feel differently if it were truly a matter of dropping
nine bombs, flying away and being done with it?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
At least in theory nine bombs that's it?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I mean, does that change the thought process with people?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I don't know. I don't know the answer of it.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So you say you want to be president, Huh, what
is it that you would do if you were in
Trump shoes? What is it that Trump will choose? And
will that be the right thing to do? I got
bad Blond burning right now. The Brian Mojo podcast is
driven by Brayman motor Cars. My family is a Brayman
(11:59):
Motor Cars family. Your family should be to visit Braymanmotorcars
dot com
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