September 30, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Brian Mud Show. Thanks for listening. Passion
plus talent is unstoppable. It's time for today's top three takeaways.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
And Joel that is particularly inspired by the Harlem Globe
Prodders one hundred he saw auditioning you would liked to.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Take the court. It looks like.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
No, no, I would like you to take the court
glow proders.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
How about the last As long as there are phones around, right, I.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Bet they'd have a blast with you. They have a
good time with you.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
So Trump's plan for Middle East greatness and for a
great government shutdown. Yeah, we can make government shutdowns great again.
All right? So but top takeaway for you today, A
real chance for greatness, A real chance for greatness.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin and you who
announced they've agreed to a plan in the ward at Gaza.
But for it to take effect, Hamas must agree to
the terms. I have a feeling that we're going to
have a positive answer. But if not, as you know,
maybe you'd have Marfa backing to do what you would
have to do. Clearly a warning there from the President
(01:20):
take the deal or else.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, So as we take a look at what's going
on here. We do have a real chance for greatness.
That is what President Trump had to say in advance
of yesterday's high stakes meeting with Israeli Prime Minister of
Benjamin n Yaho. It is what potentially was agreed to
during that meeting. Specifically, President Trump believes there can be
(01:43):
relative peace between Israel and a transitional governing body of
people of the Palestinian territories, and built out of the
framework of all this, a lasting peace in the Middle East,
something historically we've never seen. So President Trump outlined a
(02:03):
twenty one point plan to net Yahoo based on what
I know. As of now, the plan still has not
been released publicly. Nevertheless, I was able to gain access
to it, and I'm going to break it down for
it because the thing is really important to understand what
is in focus here. This is what Nen Yahoo agreed
to yesterday based upon my understanding. Number one Gaza will
(02:29):
be deradicalized. Number two Gaza will be redeveloped. No word
about a Trump resort on the Gaza strip. Break out
those old mockups. Number three Israel and Hamas will immediately
end the war. Number four all hostages kept by Hamas
(02:51):
must be returned.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Number five.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Once hostages are obtained, Israel will release over one thousand
Gazins hell as prisoners of war.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Number six.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Remaining members of Hamas will be granted amnesty. Number seven.
AID will surge into Gaza. Number eight. Aid will be
distributed by the UN. Number nine. Gaza will be governed
by a transitional government of Palestinian technocrats under supervision by
(03:24):
the US, Arab and Euro partners.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Number ten.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
An economic plan aimed at stability for Gozin's is to
be adopted. Number eleven. An economic zone with reduced tariffs
is to be offered to the transitional government.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Number twelve.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Gozen property owners will be allowed to retain their properties.
Number thirteen. I'm sorry before I get to thirteen. No
one will be forced to leave during the redevelopment of Gaza.
You know Trump, if he's going to deal like a
Trump pritor, you can always do like Trump tenths. You know,
Trump tents told the Trump Resort is done.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
As long as there is really good quality, like Alligator Alcatraz.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
There you go, Oh yeah, it's true. We've got a
got a proxy. Number thirteen.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
All remaining Hamas infrastructure and weaponrries to be destroyed. Number fourteen.
A security guarantees to be provided to the people of
Israel that Gazin's will impose no threat. Number fifteen. The US,
Arab and European partners will provide a stabilization force that
(04:34):
will develop and train a police force and will retain
the presence as an internal security body. Number sixteen. Previous
boundaries to October seventh, twenty twenty three will apply. Israel
will seed all occupied Palestinian territory currently under its command.
(04:56):
Number seventeen. If Hamas rejects the terms, the plan will
contin you was outlined in quote unquote terror free areas.
Number eighteen. Israel will not carry out future strikes and
guitar or cutter if you prefer. Number nineteen. Interfaith dialogue
(05:16):
and education will be mandatory with the Gosden citizenry, aimed
at deradicalization of the population because for decades you've had
the Palestinian people taught that Jews are the devil.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Number twenty.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
If all previous steps are completed, a path towards Palestinian
statehood may be recognized.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So that's big.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The first time the president has gone along with that
and saying with Nan Yahoo, Now, I mean the one
war that jumps out to me there is may right,
it doesn't guarantee, says if all previous steps are completed,
a path towards Palestinian statehood may be recognized, and number
twenty one, the US will act as a permanent arbiter
and facilitator of constructive dialogue between Israel and Palestinians. Okay,
(06:04):
So that is what was agreed to with Benjamin and
Yahoo yesterday. And as we know, it's a real chance
for greatness, which would truly be a great thing if
it came to be, because well, I mean peace in
(06:26):
that region, something that we have never been able to sustain.
We'll see, we'll see what Hamas has to say about
this thing. But what I'm most interested in, I mean,
the one cause in there is like, Okay, well, even
if Hamas says no, We're still going to do it
everywhere else that we can. So I guess most of
this happens anyway. We'll see. My second takeaway for you
(06:48):
today what a partial government shutdown would look like.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Here's Fox's rein smells.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Vice president jd Vance making a prediction after a meeting
in the Oval office with top leadership for both Congressional
Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So I think we're headed to a shutdown.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Senate Majority Leader John Thune says the Chamber will vote
on a bill that would extend government funding until late
November tomorrow. Democrats like House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, want
healthcare provisions included in order to get the sixty votes
needed to break a filibuster.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
All right, So, as I pointed out over the years
when partial government shutdowns have loomed, the federal government doesn't
shut down as such a misnomer shutdown.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
No, there's not a shutdown. It prioritizes.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
During a partial federal government shutdown, there's discretion regarding what
stays open and what doesn't. But there's one area that
isn't open to interpretation what are considered essential services, Which,
to me, every time we get into this conversation, I'm like,
shouldn't we only ever be operating in essential services anyway?
I mean, the rest of us non essential? How about
just like permanently keep it a shutdown and we're not
(07:57):
here to work for the federal government, the federal governments
to do essential things for us at least that's the
way it should be.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I digress.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So shutdowns a largely modern phenomenon due to increased partisanship
byproduct of the budget process created in nineteen seventy six.
Since seventy six, there have been twenty two partial government
shutdowns eleven I've reached the stage where certain agencies and
their employees are furloughed. Now the government doesn't work on
a paygo or a revenue in revenue out approach.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
We're still accumulating debt.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
And that's because the Office of Management and Budget determines
what remains open and what doesn't, with the President of
the United States being the final arbiter of what is
considered essential. With a few exceptions, the average impact during
shutdowns has historically only been felt by fifteen to twenty
percent of the four hundred and thirty federal government agencies.
(08:51):
But what is different this time is President Trump's desire
to make shutdowns great again. Now dosed the federal government,
dose the federal government, which is my third takeaway today
sen that majority later John Thune here, the.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Holl's Republicans have passed a short term funding resolution that
is clean, nonpartisan, and came over to the Senate. That's
sitting at the desk in the Senate. We could pick
it up and pass it tonight. The President would sign
in the law. The government stays open.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
He just I can't help anytime I hear John Thune
say clean, there's just something about it that like kind
of stands out. It reminds me of Biden. Hey, what
do you think about this Obama guy over here? Look
at him?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
He's clean, not all anything he spells bad. You know
why you laughing, Joel? No reason why by what Biden said?
He's clean. This Obama's clean. He's articulate too, he is
and black. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
According to Joe, it was so yeah, we need to
get to dementia. Joe out of retirement. And what do
you think is this? See this continuing resolution as clean
as Obama go. So anyway, independent of a budget battle standoff,
with a desire to outright eliminate several government agencies, you
(10:15):
have the ability to doge the federal government in a
way that Trump really wanted to when Elon was running doge.
So for this reason, last week, President Trump provided a
directive for each department head to provide a plan for
the potential reduction in headcount within their agencies that might
be applied, might be applied permanently.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
We now know what that would look like.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Consider this, if we do enter a partial government shutdown tomorrow,
in the Defense Department, all military personnel will be retained,
but only thirty percent of the civilian population, which provides
what could be considered valuable insight into how much bloat
(11:05):
there may be within the civilian wing of the DoD
and Homeland Security, of course front and center in the
president's immigration plans, policies execution, ninety five percent of all
employees will be retained. So Homeland Security the least impacted
(11:26):
of the large federal government agencies and focus. But that
is not the case, not the case with the most impacted.
What what department We've ended up ended up seeing the
biggest impact.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
None other than the DOE the Department of Education.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Say it is, so, if we have a partial shutdown tomorrow,
how many of the people in that department will remain?
And Joel was pretty darn close to the number here.
Too many that you can make the argument that if
one remains, I I guess about ten percent.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
And you're just about there.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Only twelve only twelve percent of the employees of the
Department of Education will report to work tomorrow if there's
a partial shutdown. So yeah, if there's a partial shutdown,
eighty eight percent of the Department of Education employees we'll
be furloughed, potentially permanently. That is the department that President
(12:31):
Trump wants to eliminate, and it's a department Democrats can
help expedite the elimination of if they continue to play
the hand the way that they're playing it. Democrats, they're
playing with fire here. Trump has orchestrated this into what's
effectively a head's eye wind tails you lose scenario. You're
(12:52):
either going to go along and let us do our
budget the way we need to do it, or always go.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Ahead and.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Just about entirely eliminate the Department of Education, plus of
other things we've been wanting to dose two. What do
you say, and independent of any other considerations, If Trump
really will hold the line and eliminate eighty eight percent
of the Department of Education permanently, bring on the shutdown.
Bring on the shutdown, because it'll be interesting to see
the Democrats really do want to play into the President's hand.
(13:22):
This way, you know, you remember all these employees that
the administration kept trying to lay off, and then you'd
have some of the courts so you can't do that,
and then gets caught in legal battles and everything. Well,
in this case, that's resolved, so stay tuned.
Welcome to the Brian Mud Show. Thanks for listening. Passion
plus talent is unstoppable. It's time for today's top three takeaways.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
And Joel that is particularly inspired by the Harlem Globe
Prodders one hundred he saw auditioning you would liked to.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Take the court. It looks like.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
No, no, I would like you to take the court
glow proders.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
How about the last As long as there are phones around, right, I.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Bet they'd have a blast with you. They have a
good time with you.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
So Trump's plan for Middle East greatness and for a
great government shutdown. Yeah, we can make government shutdowns great again.
All right? So but top takeaway for you today, A
real chance for greatness, A real chance for greatness.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin and you who
announced they've agreed to a plan in the ward at Gaza.
But for it to take effect, Hamas must agree to
the terms. I have a feeling that we're going to
have a positive answer. But if not, as you know,
maybe you'd have Marfa backing to do what you would
have to do. Clearly a warning there from the President
(01:20):
take the deal or else.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, So as we take a look at what's going
on here. We do have a real chance for greatness.
That is what President Trump had to say in advance
of yesterday's high stakes meeting with Israeli Prime Minister of
Benjamin n Yaho. It is what potentially was agreed to
during that meeting. Specifically, President Trump believes there can be
(01:43):
relative peace between Israel and a transitional governing body of
people of the Palestinian territories, and built out of the
framework of all this, a lasting peace in the Middle East,
something historically we've never seen. So President Trump outlined a
(02:03):
twenty one point plan to net Yahoo based on what
I know. As of now, the plan still has not
been released publicly. Nevertheless, I was able to gain access
to it, and I'm going to break it down for
it because the thing is really important to understand what
is in focus here. This is what Nen Yahoo agreed
to yesterday based upon my understanding. Number one Gaza will
(02:29):
be deradicalized. Number two Gaza will be redeveloped. No word
about a Trump resort on the Gaza strip. Break out
those old mockups. Number three Israel and Hamas will immediately
end the war. Number four all hostages kept by Hamas
(02:51):
must be returned.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Number five.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Once hostages are obtained, Israel will release over one thousand
Gazins hell as prisoners of war.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Number six.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Remaining members of Hamas will be granted amnesty. Number seven.
AID will surge into Gaza. Number eight. Aid will be
distributed by the UN. Number nine. Gaza will be governed
by a transitional government of Palestinian technocrats under supervision by
(03:24):
the US, Arab and Euro partners.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Number ten.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
An economic plan aimed at stability for Gozin's is to
be adopted. Number eleven. An economic zone with reduced tariffs
is to be offered to the transitional government.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Number twelve.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Gozen property owners will be allowed to retain their properties.
Number thirteen. I'm sorry before I get to thirteen. No
one will be forced to leave during the redevelopment of Gaza.
You know Trump, if he's going to deal like a
Trump pritor, you can always do like Trump tenths. You know,
Trump tents told the Trump Resort is done.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
As long as there is really good quality, like Alligator Alcatraz.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
There you go, Oh yeah, it's true. We've got a
got a proxy. Number thirteen.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
All remaining Hamas infrastructure and weaponrries to be destroyed. Number fourteen.
A security guarantees to be provided to the people of
Israel that Gazin's will impose no threat. Number fifteen. The US,
Arab and European partners will provide a stabilization force that
(04:34):
will develop and train a police force and will retain
the presence as an internal security body. Number sixteen. Previous
boundaries to October seventh, twenty twenty three will apply. Israel
will seed all occupied Palestinian territory currently under its command.
(04:56):
Number seventeen. If Hamas rejects the terms, the plan will
contin you was outlined in quote unquote terror free areas.
Number eighteen. Israel will not carry out future strikes and
guitar or cutter if you prefer. Number nineteen. Interfaith dialogue
(05:16):
and education will be mandatory with the Gosden citizenry, aimed
at deradicalization of the population because for decades you've had
the Palestinian people taught that Jews are the devil.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Number twenty.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
If all previous steps are completed, a path towards Palestinian
statehood may be recognized.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So that's big.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The first time the president has gone along with that
and saying with Nan Yahoo, Now, I mean the one
war that jumps out to me there is may right,
it doesn't guarantee, says if all previous steps are completed,
a path towards Palestinian statehood may be recognized, and number
twenty one, the US will act as a permanent arbiter
and facilitator of constructive dialogue between Israel and Palestinians. Okay,
(06:04):
So that is what was agreed to with Benjamin and
Yahoo yesterday. And as we know, it's a real chance
for greatness, which would truly be a great thing if
it came to be, because well, I mean peace in
(06:26):
that region, something that we have never been able to sustain.
We'll see, we'll see what Hamas has to say about
this thing. But what I'm most interested in, I mean,
the one cause in there is like, Okay, well, even
if Hamas says no, We're still going to do it
everywhere else that we can. So I guess most of
this happens anyway. We'll see. My second takeaway for you
(06:48):
today what a partial government shutdown would look like.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Here's Fox's rein smells.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Vice president jd Vance making a prediction after a meeting
in the Oval office with top leadership for both Congressional
Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So I think we're headed to a shutdown.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Senate Majority Leader John Thune says the Chamber will vote
on a bill that would extend government funding until late
November tomorrow. Democrats like House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, want
healthcare provisions included in order to get the sixty votes
needed to break a filibuster.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
All right, So, as I pointed out over the years
when partial government shutdowns have loomed, the federal government doesn't
shut down as such a misnomer shutdown.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
No, there's not a shutdown. It prioritizes.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
During a partial federal government shutdown, there's discretion regarding what
stays open and what doesn't. But there's one area that
isn't open to interpretation what are considered essential services, Which,
to me, every time we get into this conversation, I'm like,
shouldn't we only ever be operating in essential services anyway?
I mean, the rest of us non essential? How about
just like permanently keep it a shutdown and we're not
(07:57):
here to work for the federal government, the federal governments
to do essential things for us at least that's the
way it should be.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I digress.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So shutdowns a largely modern phenomenon due to increased partisanship
byproduct of the budget process created in nineteen seventy six.
Since seventy six, there have been twenty two partial government
shutdowns eleven I've reached the stage where certain agencies and
their employees are furloughed. Now the government doesn't work on
a paygo or a revenue in revenue out approach.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
We're still accumulating debt.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
And that's because the Office of Management and Budget determines
what remains open and what doesn't, with the President of
the United States being the final arbiter of what is
considered essential. With a few exceptions, the average impact during
shutdowns has historically only been felt by fifteen to twenty
percent of the four hundred and thirty federal government agencies.
(08:51):
But what is different this time is President Trump's desire
to make shutdowns great again. Now dosed the federal government,
dose the federal government, which is my third takeaway today
sen that majority later John Thune here, the.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Holl's Republicans have passed a short term funding resolution that
is clean, nonpartisan, and came over to the Senate. That's
sitting at the desk in the Senate. We could pick
it up and pass it tonight. The President would sign
in the law. The government stays open.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
He just I can't help anytime I hear John Thune
say clean, there's just something about it that like kind
of stands out. It reminds me of Biden. Hey, what
do you think about this Obama guy over here? Look
at him?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
He's clean, not all anything he spells bad. You know
why you laughing, Joel? No reason why by what Biden said?
He's clean. This Obama's clean. He's articulate too, he is
and black. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
According to Joe, it was so yeah, we need to
get to dementia. Joe out of retirement. And what do
you think is this? See this continuing resolution as clean
as Obama go. So anyway, independent of a budget battle standoff,
with a desire to outright eliminate several government agencies, you
(10:15):
have the ability to doge the federal government in a
way that Trump really wanted to when Elon was running doge.
So for this reason, last week, President Trump provided a
directive for each department head to provide a plan for
the potential reduction in headcount within their agencies that might
be applied, might be applied permanently.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
We now know what that would look like.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Consider this, if we do enter a partial government shutdown tomorrow,
in the Defense Department, all military personnel will be retained,
but only thirty percent of the civilian population, which provides
what could be considered valuable insight into how much bloat
(11:05):
there may be within the civilian wing of the DoD
and Homeland Security, of course front and center in the
president's immigration plans, policies execution, ninety five percent of all
employees will be retained. So Homeland Security the least impacted
(11:26):
of the large federal government agencies and focus. But that
is not the case, not the case with the most impacted.
What what department We've ended up ended up seeing the
biggest impact.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
None other than the DOE the Department of Education.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Say it is, so, if we have a partial shutdown tomorrow,
how many of the people in that department will remain?
And Joel was pretty darn close to the number here.
Too many that you can make the argument that if
one remains, I I guess about ten percent.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
And you're just about there.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Only twelve only twelve percent of the employees of the
Department of Education will report to work tomorrow if there's
a partial shutdown. So yeah, if there's a partial shutdown,
eighty eight percent of the Department of Education employees we'll
be furloughed, potentially permanently. That is the department that President
(12:31):
Trump wants to eliminate, and it's a department Democrats can
help expedite the elimination of if they continue to play
the hand the way that they're playing it. Democrats, they're
playing with fire here. Trump has orchestrated this into what's
effectively a head's eye wind tails you lose scenario. You're
(12:52):
either going to go along and let us do our
budget the way we need to do it, or always go.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Ahead and.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Just about entirely eliminate the Department of Education, plus of
other things we've been wanting to dose two. What do
you say, and independent of any other considerations, If Trump
really will hold the line and eliminate eighty eight percent
of the Department of Education permanently, bring on the shutdown.
Bring on the shutdown, because it'll be interesting to see
the Democrats really do want to play into the President's hand.
(13:22):
This way, you know, you remember all these employees that
the administration kept trying to lay off, and then you'd
have some of the courts so you can't do that,
and then gets caught in legal battles and everything. Well,
in this case, that's resolved, so stay tuned.
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