September 23, 2025 • 12 mins
To put this in perspective, if even 10% of the requests for new chapters turn out to be successfully established it would effectively triple the regular reach of Turning Point USA.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Brian Mud Show. Thanks for listening. Passion
plus talent is unstoppable. It's time for today's top three takeaways.
Turning Point USA.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's just the beginning my takeaways for you on this
Tuesday in morning and So, I was guesting for Mark
Levin yesterday and not long before showtime, the breaking news
hit on the return of the Kimmel.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Jimmy Kimmel, We'll return to the air Tuesday after a
week long suspension. Disney confirmed the move Monday, saying, in
part it was to avoid further inflaming a tense situation
at an emotional moment for our country, calling the comments
ill timed and insensitive. The suspension followed Kimmel's September fifteenth
monologue when he made a comment about Charlie Kirk's assassination.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And there were two points that I immediately established last night.
One that's coming to focus a little bit more and
something that was actually decided by Michelle Polina. There that
is not receiving the attention that it deserves. First of all,
ABC didn't suddenly like grow a set last week. People
are ABC and Disney.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Oh my god. I stand with Kimmel. It was so funny.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I saw like memes going around the internet I Stand
with Kimmel, and it's all it was, this is a
picture of him, you know, with like that smile on
his smug smile on his face. He's kind of like,
I'm not a violent persons want to kind of smack him.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
But it was that picture.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You know, Joel's laughing, you know what, you know what
I mean, right, he doesn't have a punchable face.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Wait, it's not that I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Not a violent person and punching, but it's just kind
of like you want to just you know, like you know,
it's again, he's kind of like want to want to
just smack him on the side of the face, like
that smug look off his face, right, Okay, that kind
of thing.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, so that kind of picture.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And then with just with the the tag I Stand
with Kimmel, and my initial reaction seeing this is I
thought it was like a parody.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I was.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I thought it was a And then I started reading
some like the messages that people I'm like, oh, these
people are serious, So that's one. It is such a
I view him as nothing to but a joke. I've
never thought he's anything other than a butt clown at
any point in my life. So the bigger thing here though,
when ABC put out that statement, they said that the
(02:19):
comments were ill timed, not that they were inflammatory, not
that they were demonstrably false, not that they were slanderous,
not that they even thought they were unacceptable. They were
ill timed. That is ABC Disney for you. Okay, one
very important tons of focus should be on that. Nobody
(02:43):
other than me has talked about that. Now the next
part that's really important that I identified right away. This
was never about ABC not really. The reason that ABC
finally did something last week was because it's too big
as affiliate barriers Next Star Media and Sinclair said, you
(03:03):
know what, we're pulling the plug on the sky. And
so I mean ABC could always just put them directly online.
You'll need an FCC license for that anyway. Just you
want to put the the joke aer on line, go
for it. So Sinclair is out. Sinclair said they are
not going to air Kimmel tonight and have not seen
(03:25):
a definitive statement from Next Star. Be interesting to see
what happens there. So Kimmel will not be coming back
everywhere tonight. And so a couple things as that whole
deal kind of permeates. So we dive into my takeaways
today and talk about greater than death. My top takeaway
(03:46):
for you today, Greater than Death, Edgar Allen, Poe, Vincent
van Go, Nikola Tesla, all people that Joel has become
far more familiar with this morning.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Known who they are. I just did viewers at what
do they have in common? And all I could think
of as I mean they both they all created something.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
They did, all create stuff.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Artists in their own way.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Perhaps, Yeah, I mean you could have done worse artists.
Artists is pretty I mean the artist encompasses two of them.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
To begin with it. No, I just I asked Joel
a series of difficult questions. I'll ask you. We'll see
how well you do. This is my question though.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
For example, Poe known as a writer, a poet, a
critic in his day, but never really caught on, never
gained like that critical acclaim, and so he struggled financially
his entire life, and even like his keyworks The Raven
Tailtale Heart the Fall of the House of Usher, just
never never provide a lot of money, never made much,
(04:51):
and so he was died impoverished at forty the case
of van Go. This is one of my all time
favorite stats when it comes to the art world, when
it comes to the creative realm. Vincent van Go an
even more extreme version of the post situation. Here, you
(05:11):
have a now world renowned painter, you have an original
van Go millions of bucks, millions of bucks. How many
of his paintings did he sell during his lifetime? The
survey says one. Van Go was so not regarded in
(05:34):
his time, he was only ever able to sell one painting,
and so he was super impoverished for the entirety of
his life. Also suffered with mental health issues. A lot
of people think I was kind of related. As for Tesla,
was he a big deal in this day? I mean, yes,
people knew who Tesla was back then, but only to
(05:56):
a point. They knew him as like the scary guy,
like the weird science scary guy out there. His groundbreaking
and invasions were just deemed too risky to pursue at the time,
and so he instantly became overshadowed by Thomas Edison. And
because of that, he never received funding and never ended
up really getting the backing to provide him stability, and
so he also died impoverished in his case in nineteen
(06:20):
forty three.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
It was just ahead of his time.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So now, of course, the world's most valuable automotive company
founded by the greatest innovator of our time named after him.
Here's another name that fits the mix. It's Jesus Christ.
He's a man that certainly became well known in his time.
In fact, fun fact, this is maybe my favorite fund
fact involving Jesus. He is the one name that comes
(06:44):
up as a historically significant figure in every major world
religion sixteen in total. I think there's something to be
said about that anyway. Charlie Kirk okay, no Jesus Christ. However,
he did end up, like all the one one of
Jesus' disciples, as he was martyred for his faith, and
he is almost certainly said to become the next to
(07:07):
have had a much bigger impact in death than he
did in life, which is saying something given his considerable
success while he was alive. So on that note, according
to Yuga, forty six percent of Americans had no clue
who Charlie Kirk was before his assassination, with only twenty
four percent who said they were very familiar with Charlie's works,
so it's unclear where exactly those numbers rest now. But
(07:28):
after having had a House resolution pass honoring his work,
a Center resolution pass establishing his birthday October fourteenth as
Charlie Kirk Day, and a record setting memorial ninety five
thousand attendance, with by this time yesterday sixty five million
people who had watched or listened to at least some
of the memorial live or online, it was pretty clear
(07:49):
that his name is already bigger in death, but importantly
too is turning point USA.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I mentioned sixty five million.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
By this time yesterday, where did we stand by later
in the day yesterday, Fox is Marian rafferting.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Every seat in the sixty four thousand seat stadium was
filled with tens of thousands more at an overflow facility nearby.
About one hundred million viewed the service online and millions
more watched it on cable.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Over one hundred million.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Now you're talking super Bowl territory. This is becoming bigger
than the Super Bowl. That memorial It'll never be discussed
in that context by many, but that's the size of
what we're talking about here. In addition to the greater
(08:38):
than sixty two thousand new chapter requests already and estimated
fifteen million dollars has been raised through donor pledges, merchandise sales,
event ticket sales, a number that is expected to grow
very quickly to one hundred million based on guidance from
Turning Points, top donors or. In other words, the fund
raising following Charlie's death appears to be on track to
(09:00):
clear what his entire organization had most recently raised in
a year in a year. This is hugely important because
the rapid demand for new chapters and new reach should
be able to be scaled accordingly with the new resources
that are coming on hand to meet that searching demand.
And let me put this in perspective. I was trying
to think of a way of illustrating that. Joey, you
(09:21):
can tell me if this helps paint the picture. If
even ten percent, if just one in ten of the
requests for new chapters turns out to be legitimate, turns
out to stick to be successful, it would triple the
size of Turning Point USA.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Yeah, it seems pretty significant to me.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yes, If only one in ten sticks, Turning Point triples.
Look at how incredibly effective and successful. The organization had
already been to the potential reach for what's about to
be in this next chapter. Turning Point USA say, would
likely have taken numerous years to achieve previously.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
And speaking of reach, the comeback continues.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
First aword from Andrew Covid, the executive producer at the
Charlie Kirk Show, ended up speaking during the memorial.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Our partners that do sort of geotagging with devices. They
told us that they tracked over two hundred and seventy
seven thousand devices in the vicinity of State Farm Stadium
in Glendale, Arizona. Two hundred and seventy seven thousand.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
That's just incredible, right.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
So Charlie's last stop on this Earth was the first
of the scheduled American Comeback to Our stops, and Erica
Kirk was insistent that the Comeback to Our continue as scheduled,
and that is exactly what happened yesterday. This is something
else that just kind of like in the grand scheme
of what even goes on with people that claimed that
they report news anymore. If I were not talking about
(10:56):
Turning Points next event happening to have, I'm curious have
you come across this Turning Point USA's second scheduled stop,
the first sense the assassination.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yesterday.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I saw it referenced on Fox once. It's nowhere else.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's remarkable to me that people aren't talking about this,
but it happened yesterday. The second scheduled stop for the
American Comeback Tour happened at the University of Minnesota with
Michael Knowles, who stepped in and took the place before
a sold out crowd. On Wednesday, it's on the Virginia
(11:32):
Tech where Megan Kelly and Governor Glenn Youngkin are going
to be taking the stage for Turning Point USA. Future
events of the Comeback Tour will feature Erica Kirk, Glenn Beck,
and the Vec ram Mus wat Me, among many others.
So the bottom line is that the American Comeback continues
too with many of the biggest voices on the right
holding the line. So it's encouraging to see what continues
to be an unprecedented level of support for Turning Point USA,
(11:55):
and it's going to be exciting to see how it
translates across the country. In fact, when you look at
the grass, it's outpouring of support that we've seen, especially
demographically I am the most optimistic I've been since I
first spoke of the opportunity for generational change of this
country back in October of twenty twenty one. The generational
political and cultural change is here in TPUSA, leading
Speaker 4 (12:16):
The way, so the comeback it continues
Welcome to the Brian Mud Show. Thanks for listening. Passion
plus talent is unstoppable. It's time for today's top three takeaways.
Turning Point USA.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's just the beginning my takeaways for you on this
Tuesday in morning and So, I was guesting for Mark
Levin yesterday and not long before showtime, the breaking news
hit on the return of the Kimmel.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Jimmy Kimmel, We'll return to the air Tuesday after a
week long suspension. Disney confirmed the move Monday, saying, in
part it was to avoid further inflaming a tense situation
at an emotional moment for our country, calling the comments
ill timed and insensitive. The suspension followed Kimmel's September fifteenth
monologue when he made a comment about Charlie Kirk's assassination.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And there were two points that I immediately established last night.
One that's coming to focus a little bit more and
something that was actually decided by Michelle Polina. There that
is not receiving the attention that it deserves. First of all,
ABC didn't suddenly like grow a set last week. People
are ABC and Disney.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Oh my god. I stand with Kimmel. It was so funny.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I saw like memes going around the internet I Stand
with Kimmel, and it's all it was, this is a
picture of him, you know, with like that smile on
his smug smile on his face. He's kind of like,
I'm not a violent persons want to kind of smack him.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
But it was that picture.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You know, Joel's laughing, you know what, you know what
I mean, right, he doesn't have a punchable face.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Wait, it's not that I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Not a violent person and punching, but it's just kind
of like you want to just you know, like you know,
it's again, he's kind of like want to want to
just smack him on the side of the face, like
that smug look off his face, right, Okay, that kind
of thing.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, so that kind of picture.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And then with just with the the tag I Stand
with Kimmel, and my initial reaction seeing this is I
thought it was like a parody.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I was.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I thought it was a And then I started reading
some like the messages that people I'm like, oh, these
people are serious, So that's one. It is such a
I view him as nothing to but a joke. I've
never thought he's anything other than a butt clown at
any point in my life. So the bigger thing here though,
when ABC put out that statement, they said that the
(02:19):
comments were ill timed, not that they were inflammatory, not
that they were demonstrably false, not that they were slanderous,
not that they even thought they were unacceptable. They were
ill timed. That is ABC Disney for you. Okay, one
very important tons of focus should be on that. Nobody
(02:43):
other than me has talked about that. Now the next
part that's really important that I identified right away. This
was never about ABC not really. The reason that ABC
finally did something last week was because it's too big
as affiliate barriers Next Star Media and Sinclair said, you
(03:03):
know what, we're pulling the plug on the sky. And
so I mean ABC could always just put them directly online.
You'll need an FCC license for that anyway. Just you
want to put the the joke aer on line, go
for it. So Sinclair is out. Sinclair said they are
not going to air Kimmel tonight and have not seen
(03:25):
a definitive statement from Next Star. Be interesting to see
what happens there. So Kimmel will not be coming back
everywhere tonight. And so a couple things as that whole
deal kind of permeates. So we dive into my takeaways
today and talk about greater than death. My top takeaway
(03:46):
for you today, Greater than Death, Edgar Allen, Poe, Vincent
van Go, Nikola Tesla, all people that Joel has become
far more familiar with this morning.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Known who they are. I just did viewers at what
do they have in common? And all I could think
of as I mean they both they all created something.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
They did, all create stuff.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Artists in their own way.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Perhaps, Yeah, I mean you could have done worse artists.
Artists is pretty I mean the artist encompasses two of them.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
To begin with it. No, I just I asked Joel
a series of difficult questions. I'll ask you. We'll see
how well you do. This is my question though.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
For example, Poe known as a writer, a poet, a
critic in his day, but never really caught on, never
gained like that critical acclaim, and so he struggled financially
his entire life, and even like his keyworks The Raven
Tailtale Heart the Fall of the House of Usher, just
never never provide a lot of money, never made much,
(04:51):
and so he was died impoverished at forty the case
of van Go. This is one of my all time
favorite stats when it comes to the art world, when
it comes to the creative realm. Vincent van Go an
even more extreme version of the post situation. Here, you
(05:11):
have a now world renowned painter, you have an original
van Go millions of bucks, millions of bucks. How many
of his paintings did he sell during his lifetime? The
survey says one. Van Go was so not regarded in
(05:34):
his time, he was only ever able to sell one painting,
and so he was super impoverished for the entirety of
his life. Also suffered with mental health issues. A lot
of people think I was kind of related. As for Tesla,
was he a big deal in this day? I mean, yes,
people knew who Tesla was back then, but only to
(05:56):
a point. They knew him as like the scary guy,
like the weird science scary guy out there. His groundbreaking
and invasions were just deemed too risky to pursue at the time,
and so he instantly became overshadowed by Thomas Edison. And
because of that, he never received funding and never ended
up really getting the backing to provide him stability, and
so he also died impoverished in his case in nineteen
(06:20):
forty three.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
It was just ahead of his time.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So now, of course, the world's most valuable automotive company
founded by the greatest innovator of our time named after him.
Here's another name that fits the mix. It's Jesus Christ.
He's a man that certainly became well known in his time.
In fact, fun fact, this is maybe my favorite fund
fact involving Jesus. He is the one name that comes
(06:44):
up as a historically significant figure in every major world
religion sixteen in total. I think there's something to be
said about that anyway. Charlie Kirk okay, no Jesus Christ. However,
he did end up, like all the one one of
Jesus' disciples, as he was martyred for his faith, and
he is almost certainly said to become the next to
(07:07):
have had a much bigger impact in death than he
did in life, which is saying something given his considerable
success while he was alive. So on that note, according
to Yuga, forty six percent of Americans had no clue
who Charlie Kirk was before his assassination, with only twenty
four percent who said they were very familiar with Charlie's works,
so it's unclear where exactly those numbers rest now. But
(07:28):
after having had a House resolution pass honoring his work,
a Center resolution pass establishing his birthday October fourteenth as
Charlie Kirk Day, and a record setting memorial ninety five
thousand attendance, with by this time yesterday sixty five million
people who had watched or listened to at least some
of the memorial live or online, it was pretty clear
(07:49):
that his name is already bigger in death, but importantly
too is turning point USA.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I mentioned sixty five million.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
By this time yesterday, where did we stand by later
in the day yesterday, Fox is Marian rafferting.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Every seat in the sixty four thousand seat stadium was
filled with tens of thousands more at an overflow facility nearby.
About one hundred million viewed the service online and millions
more watched it on cable.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Over one hundred million.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Now you're talking super Bowl territory. This is becoming bigger
than the Super Bowl. That memorial It'll never be discussed
in that context by many, but that's the size of
what we're talking about here. In addition to the greater
(08:38):
than sixty two thousand new chapter requests already and estimated
fifteen million dollars has been raised through donor pledges, merchandise sales,
event ticket sales, a number that is expected to grow
very quickly to one hundred million based on guidance from
Turning Points, top donors or. In other words, the fund
raising following Charlie's death appears to be on track to
(09:00):
clear what his entire organization had most recently raised in
a year in a year. This is hugely important because
the rapid demand for new chapters and new reach should
be able to be scaled accordingly with the new resources
that are coming on hand to meet that searching demand.
And let me put this in perspective. I was trying
to think of a way of illustrating that. Joey, you
(09:21):
can tell me if this helps paint the picture. If
even ten percent, if just one in ten of the
requests for new chapters turns out to be legitimate, turns
out to stick to be successful, it would triple the
size of Turning Point USA.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Yeah, it seems pretty significant to me.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yes, If only one in ten sticks, Turning Point triples.
Look at how incredibly effective and successful. The organization had
already been to the potential reach for what's about to
be in this next chapter. Turning Point USA say, would
likely have taken numerous years to achieve previously.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
And speaking of reach, the comeback continues.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
First aword from Andrew Covid, the executive producer at the
Charlie Kirk Show, ended up speaking during the memorial.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Our partners that do sort of geotagging with devices. They
told us that they tracked over two hundred and seventy
seven thousand devices in the vicinity of State Farm Stadium
in Glendale, Arizona. Two hundred and seventy seven thousand.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
That's just incredible, right.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
So Charlie's last stop on this Earth was the first
of the scheduled American Comeback to Our stops, and Erica
Kirk was insistent that the Comeback to Our continue as scheduled,
and that is exactly what happened yesterday. This is something
else that just kind of like in the grand scheme
of what even goes on with people that claimed that
they report news anymore. If I were not talking about
(10:56):
Turning Points next event happening to have, I'm curious have
you come across this Turning Point USA's second scheduled stop,
the first sense the assassination.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yesterday.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
I saw it referenced on Fox once. It's nowhere else.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's remarkable to me that people aren't talking about this,
but it happened yesterday. The second scheduled stop for the
American Comeback Tour happened at the University of Minnesota with
Michael Knowles, who stepped in and took the place before
a sold out crowd. On Wednesday, it's on the Virginia
(11:32):
Tech where Megan Kelly and Governor Glenn Youngkin are going
to be taking the stage for Turning Point USA. Future
events of the Comeback Tour will feature Erica Kirk, Glenn Beck,
and the Vec ram Mus wat Me, among many others.
So the bottom line is that the American Comeback continues
too with many of the biggest voices on the right
holding the line. So it's encouraging to see what continues
to be an unprecedented level of support for Turning Point USA,
(11:55):
and it's going to be exciting to see how it
translates across the country. In fact, when you look at
the grass, it's outpouring of support that we've seen, especially
demographically I am the most optimistic I've been since I
first spoke of the opportunity for generational change of this
country back in October of twenty twenty one. The generational
political and cultural change is here in TPUSA, leading
Speaker 4 (12:16):
The way, so the comeback it continues
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