Guru World Class Premire Garages show 10-26-25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When you need wisdom and advice. Seek out a guru
when you need wisdom and advice about remodeling and design.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Lock on and listen right now to Nick the construction Guru.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Here is award winning remodeling expert Nick Kerzner.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
You just talk eleven thirty wsn Nick the construction Girl.
I'm excited today. I have my as best to suit,
my hard hat on because I have a returning guest
and one of my favorite adversaries. Now you're always making
fun of me on the show.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I think that might be your favorite person in you
you are. That's not Lie. I have Hommy. Tommy's not
the guy I Tommy.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Tommy's one of them. I have Kevin hunt from Today
we're going to talk about Premier Garage. And it's always
fun to talk to you, Kevin, because there's such new
and innovative things happening in one of your three businesses
all the time. Actually, I'm going to have to have
some garage work done because you did such a beautiful
job at my cabin with the outdoor lighting. But today

(01:06):
we're going to talk about organization. It's that time of year.
The kids are kind of settled into school now I
know that a lot of people are thinking about organizing
before the holidays, and of course being prepared after the holidays.
Let's let's talk about some of the stuff that's exciting
with the storage. When we talk about it's not only

(01:27):
Premier Garage, but it's it's also does Premier Garage do
the storage too?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Premier Garage does everything. We'll make your you know, a
man cave out of your garage.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I know, because but you guys do the California closets.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
We do closets.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, you got the organizational science like you did with
the lighting.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah. So as usual, Nick, I have to pick on
your just this mission.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I know always.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, if I'm going to do your garage floor, I
have to be able to see the floor. And we've
talked about this in the past. You have you cleaned
up your garage.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's why todays shows about organization.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh my god, I dont nothing to help you. I can't.
Organization is a semi trailer pull up to yours?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yes, no, a forty year dumpster. Now. Actually, you know
it's funny. I'm one of these guys, and I'm sure
there's a lot of listeners that, especially the guys that
go through this. I save everything and a minute I
throw it out. I need it. I had this old
ottoman that had this fabric on top, and I saved

(02:20):
the top of it because it was like padded. It
was in my garage. And the other day lo and behold,
we go and buy this rustic chair for the cab
and it's missing a skirt on the back of it,
and I said, I'll go get that. I threw it out.
I knew I was gonna need it now. Who the
hell else would need it part of an ottoman? But
the construction grew himself. The other thing is, you know,
I'm one of these guys.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
How are you that smart to remember what you need
and where you put it? That's incredible.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, it's delayed organization. I call it. It's in my head.
I know where everything is, but it's not. If you
went in there, I couldn't tell you where to go
to get it right. So that's the challenge with that.
But I'm also one of these guys who saves everything
because I reuse things. I reach it a ton of things.
You know. I built an entire tiny house out of
palette wood and mismeasured windows. And all of that kind

(03:09):
of stuff. So I hate to throw things out. And
I know there's a lot of people out there, maybe
not to the degree that I save things, but that
do save things and having a good organizational plan. It's
difficult to do by yourself. You need professional help with that,
for sure. It's you know, I started out with the
home depot boxes. They don't hold up when you're pulling

(03:30):
them off in and off the shelf. So that's you guys.
Do the toe, you do the baskets, you do the
slat walls, you do all that kind of stuff. Let's
talk about some of that stuff. Let's talk about sports
families with all the hockey gear and all of that
kind of stuff. You have all kinds of solutions for that.
Let's talk about the garage mechanic that works on his
own own cars and things like that.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
You want to know my solution everything? Yeah, Aaron, why
are you here today?

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Aaron's been doing this stuff for five, six, seven years?
And you know this nick when people are do designs
that bounce around, maybe kitchen cabinets one year, and then
I'll quit that job and they're going to do another job,
and another job, and Aaron's really probably I would say,
a master of her craft.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
And I say that.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Probably one of the longest tenured people designing cabinets and
classes in the walking area. Yeah, I mean, there's there's
just no doubt about that. So you know, she goes in,
she's you know, gets a little bit backed up on
designs here and there, but she's very, very good at
what she does. And sometimes you know, got to wait
a smidge and longer for an expert to help you out, but.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
She comes out.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
She'll do a consultation, she'll listen everything that you need,
and she'll come up with plans and she usually comes
up with a couple of them and you kind of
choose what you want. You know, with the garages, a
lot of people now you know, you do the epoxy
floor and you get the granule learn there and so
it's less slippery, and you know, we got bay strimp
for you all the way around that matches the epoxy
and kind of seals the drywall, and you know, then

(04:52):
you can get some customized cabinets in there.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
And you know.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
The shelves are really thick. We've talked about this in
past shows. You can throw bags for lser on there
whatever you want. You know, there's gonna be no flex
in them. They're all sealed so you don't get any uh, water, penetration,
moisture or anything into them. There's no no, there's nothing
that happens to them. And I'm gonna tell this story.
We talked about it a little bit on the commercials, but

(05:16):
it's a true story. I don't know how many years ago,
it was probably ten years ago. I had you know,
premier garage do my uh, you know, floor, and then
I had some cabinets added. And there's a couple of
things in my life that I really really liked having done.
One of them, obviously, is the lighting in my backyard.
When it goes out, it's not a good day. That

(05:36):
rarely ever ever happens. I had some irrigation done once.
And then the other one is you know, the garage.
I had the garage done, and I'm like, how did I,
you know, live without this? And then my you know,
this is completely off the subject, but I had a
belt drive garage door open or put in ninja quiet,
you know, I had at the time my kid would
come home at midnight or whatever, and that would you know, right,

(05:58):
against the bedroom wall, I would hear a garage or opening.
So there's there's a couple like really simple things that really,
you know, improve.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Your quality of life. So it's odd as it seems.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
And then I ended up buying the company after that,
just because you know, the guy who's having a little
bit of a hard time running it, and it fit
good with what we do, and we've kind of never
looked back.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah. One of the things that makes me crazy when
I'm at customer's houses when we're doing a kitchen, or
we've done a kitchen in the past, is when you
walk into the garage of a you know, five six,
seven hundred thousand dollars home, and hanging in the cab
in that garage are the old kitchen cabinets, the old

(06:39):
Mediterranean or the old European style cabinets. And I'm guilty
as charged. I did the same thing. And the reason
I bring that up is because now I put, you know,
the five gallon water things in the cabinets. Like you said,
all the shelves are starting to belly Dean lamp. It's
not that they're bad cabinets, they're just made for outside.

(07:01):
The stuff that you guys are using, is capable of
taking the temperature changes, the trauma of oil changes, and
things like that. Like your floor. You were talking about
epoxy floors. I have seen so many botch jobs on
apotchylopoxy floors now that it makes me insane. The one
that you did in Pewaukee is still beautiful. It was

(07:23):
that That garage floor was an absolute mess. We've talked
about it several times on here. I'm now doing a
porch for her and it still looks like brand new.
It's like brand new when you're doing oil changes, when
you have salt from the roads and all of those
things dropping on your concrete, I know that everybody's in
the same boat as I am. You start to see
the concrete start to deteriorate, you start to see the

(07:45):
oil stains in the concrete. A lot of the so
called everybody's calling it POxy floors, but a lot of
the floors out there the same things happening. They're wearing
out where the tires are coming in. It's very important
to chemicals. You used to do that before you set
cabinets or anything. That's the first thing, right.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Well, we don't deviate from our chemical process. We have
one manufacturer that we deal with, and we've stayed with
them for a long time. We chart everything in our
files down in humidity and temperature when we do floors.
You know, if we ever have a problem that creeps up,
we want to know exactly why it happened.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
We got our crews.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Everything's charted, so you know, you dial in if there
ever was a problem or is a problem, we take
care of it right away and we go kind of
go on from there. But the chemicals are very particular
what we use. There's other places that sell chemicals, and
in fact, I think Sherman Williams is probably buying up
half the country with POxy chemicals and stuff. And you know,

(08:39):
you get these big companies that step in and do that,
and you know, we kind of just run from a
lot of stuff. I've been around and so have you.
We've been around in this industry long enough where, yeah,
something new comes along, you know, I'll run from it
so fast I'll probably stumble and break a leg.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
You know, it's interesting that we're talking about this because
another one of the things it has kind of the
same story going on is truck bedliners. The only truck
and I don't. I have no affiliation with LINEX at all,
but my LINEX bedliner wears like iron. Everything else that

(09:14):
I've ever used has fallen apart. I had a body
shop do it. It's absolutely a mess, and trying to
get that crap off when they put it on is
a nightmare. It's the same with epoxy floors. You have
to It's all into preparation, right, it really is. The
chemicals are important, but you guys spend a lot of
time preparing that concrete for what's about to happen.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Well, there's a story from about four weeks ago. Aaron
was on a job and you know they said the
floor was done and it was done by one o'clock.
So you started at eight o'clock, they're done by one.
We're there until one o'clock more than likely just prepping
the floor and then we start a chemical process. So
a lot of times these floors are done and you
can see waves in them and they just look like crap.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's not something I'd be proud of.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
I went to a floor yesterday from a customer and
and I had to pick up a trailer at their
house and the floor. It was a rough floor to
do man, it was absolutely pristine.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
And our guys do.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
The biggest job is it's just prepping the floor. It's
kind of like you're doing concrete. You know, do you
want to wavy concrete driveway or do you want a
really nice, flat, smooth off like Tommy. I know Tommy's
work when I see it. Yeah, you know, Tommy might
charge a little bit more, but his work is good.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, And that's ali Yodo, Tommy Alioto.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, he's a regular guest here, no two ways about it.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
But I give Tommy floors. If I run into something
that's borderline and it's like, what are we going to
do here? You know, call this guy up. He'll give
you a fair shake. He's an honest guy. I know
Tommy's not going to take a dime from anybody.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
And I know he's He sends you referrals as well,
because I've been sitting at lunch when you guys are
talking about the referral that was just sent.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
He goes to lunch with you. Yeah, that's very irritating.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
And about every I would say every fifth or sixth
time he actually buys.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, not that bad.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
You know, there's no money in concrete Tommy's gonna I
guarantee my he My phone's ringing right now here he is.
He's listening to the show and he knows. It's so funny.
Garage organization has come a long way. You. I love
the the lifts that go above the garage doors. That's
a perfect place. Think about this, okay, and Christmas is coming. Okay.

(11:20):
You walk out in the garage and you push a
button and this what do they call him? Now? The
thing's over the garage door.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
I can't remember. I'm under a lot of stress on
the show and I just found out. You go to
lunch with Tommy. Yeah, my memories.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's like it just isn't a good day for me.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
The lofts, the lofts. So you push the button, the
loft drops and now there's all your outdoor Christmas ornaments.
Then you get it done, you pack it up, you
put it back up and forget it.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Let's back up the choo choo train there, Nick, most
people use world class outdoor lighting for the Christmas stuff
and they never see it. I put it up, I
take it down, and it's done.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
So that's what we do.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
And I don't know how Nick ventured in the Christmas,
but it is coming, and an awesome Christmas gift for
your family is to have Aaron come into a custom
closet for your wife and.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
A garage for your husband.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
The information is good, the delivery sucked, the transition was awful.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
So I mean I got my whole product line in
and in like thirty seconds as genius.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, I'm gonna take this opportunity to take a short
break and straighten this guy out before we come back
on a news talk eleven thirty wisent Huge Talk eleven
thirty wis and returning from break it snick to construction
Guru and I'm excited. There's a ton of new products

(12:44):
on the market for remodeling. If you're thinking about doing
a kitchen refresh, a bathroom refresh, a total remodel, basement
extra Remodeling edition. Love to talk to you about that.
I say on every single show you should get two
or three opinions. We'd love it if you'd make one
of those hors. We'd love to come out and talk
to you about any of those things. You can reach
us on the worldwide Web at Kurzonerinc dot com. That's

(13:06):
k e r z n e R I n C
dot com or you can call us at two six
y two five six seven twenty five hundred. And remember
Kursoner is the only company in Wisconsin when a Better
Business Beer Torch Award for Ethics and Integrity three times.
I have a returning guest and we joke around a lot,
but we're good buds. We've both done work for each

(13:27):
other and we've both been very satisfied. You're always doing
work for me. You do more work for me than
I do for you.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Though, Mike Conor that you put in fifteen twenty years
ago is still there in it's perfect. Yeah, but I'm
gonna maybe get a I might go on to Granted
or something.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't know. I might do what granted. I might
do a kitchen remodel. I don't know. That's my big project.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well, let's let's let's look at that, because I could
probably use some garage flooring and some cabinets and things
like that.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Once again, Nick, we cannot see the floor.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, well, how do I do a floor.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
And even bit on it? If I can't see it?
Think about it.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
It's probably all pitted and I'd be bitting on the
floor thinking it's really good, because you're gonna put all
the crap on the pits and I wouldn't be able
to see nothing. I know what kind of scam artist
you are. You're good, and you're good as a contractor.
You're honest with your customers. But I know if I
come to your house, you're gonna scam me out of something. Yeah,
he's just got that look. Thanks Tommy Elioto. On the

(14:19):
other hand, Nah, he'd never do that to me. I
actually did his floor.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
He loves his floor world class. Did his lighting in
Arizona too.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, we sent Brian down there. Surprise, Brian came back.
Apparently Tommy's got a gun in every drawer in his house.
That's word on the street.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well, I don't like to talk about what Tommy's got
because Tommy gets real mad if I talk about it.
But let's just say this.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Let's just say that you told me to say.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
That Tommy's Tommy's prepared for the armageddon.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
No, he is. He's an impressive guy.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah he's he's actually, uh, we're not supposed to be
talking about him today.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I just figured he had a gun in every drawer
from when you come over, So.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Okay, We're going to have to stop this now, and
and we're going to stop this show. The FCC is
going to come in and crack you over the head.
I'm kidding Kevin realistically. Now. I always like to talk
about money, and I got Derek last week from Trees
on the Move to literally tell us some pricing. I
always try and be transparent on the show because I

(15:20):
think a lot of the things that we talk about
people think that it's rich man sport garage. Your organization
probably isn't top of mine awareness awareness for most people
when they're thinking about home projects. But what I do
know is that everybody that's done it always says the
same thing, Like you said, I wish I would have
done it sooner because everything has become organized, including the

(15:42):
time that you have your hobbies, your crafts or whatever
you're doing. You know, we all have our different things
that we do. I have one guy that builds and
reloads ammunition and builds guns in his garage and he's
got it all set up and has the cabinet systems
in there. So let's talk a little bit about you know,
an average what's the average garage twenty four by thirty?

(16:03):
Is that about average.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
What you're saying, Yeah, I mean you're looking at something
like that thirty five hundred. So much depends on, you know,
the condition of the floor. We're not going to nail
you to the cross, No, that's fine, But I'm just
telling you if your floor is really pitted and it's
cracked and it needs a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
You know, on a garage that size, you're.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Probably looking at fifteen hundred to fix it. You know,
that's fifteen hundred state to get that resurfaced. It's called resurfacing.
It's hard work. My guys don't particularly like doing it. Unfortunately,
they're very good at it for them, so I don't
shy away from them. But it's you know, fifteen hundred eight.
They got to get that all. You know, you're you're
taking and you're putting pellets in there. It's called shot blasting,

(16:40):
taking anything and cracking it open even a little bit more.
So you know you got a nice stable, you know,
binding experience came.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah you do.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, And that's what takes time. But it's you know,
that's what you're gonna pay.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Well, the one that you did in Pewaukee, I'm telling
you was I'm not saying a few cracks. It was
a mess. They had poured the concrete after building walls.
So when we took the walls out that she wanted
out of the garage, there there were big, you know,
trenches in there. From the walls. There was cracking. It
was uneven when you guys got done it, I actually
couldn't believe it. And the other thing I'm going to

(17:16):
tell you, and this is God's honest truth, I can't
believe it's working. I would have thought that that concrete
was unstable, but there's no cracks in that. I've seen
her a couple of times. She actually has a little
sitting area out there where she says, Lisa does yeah,
And so when you come over, that's where you catch her.
And the floor looks beautiful.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
One of the tricks to this too is and we
realize this is you know, people are trying to accelerate
the drying time on this. When you're doing and refurbishing
a floor like that, you know, when that top is dry,
that does not mean that bottom is dry and you're
gonna go pour stuff on top of you know, chemicals
in a dry all the way through. Well, that bottom
is the most important to dry instead of the top.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, so yeah, we're completely not convinced that process is
going to hold a stand the test of time. He
talk to me, I talk about all the time everything
I do, I want to stand the test of time.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Well, and if it doesn't. The difference is you guys
and anybody can check this out. They don't have to.
You know, we're on a show talking. Of course, we're
going to talk good about you most of the time.
Maybe not the whole show now that I think about it.
There'll be some things coming up. But you've been around,
You've got a long term reputation. You're not going to
let that reputation. It's like me, people say, well, they're

(18:28):
good guys, they're smart guys. You don't tarnish your reputation
because it's all you have in this business. So you know,
I have people call me up and say, hey, I
just got one today. I did business with a friend
of his that he works with, and he says, you
really don't have to sell me on your company because
I know that this guy is very picky about who
he uses. It's the same thing with world Class. You're

(18:48):
not the cheapest. You don't care if you're the cheapest.
You're not even going to purport to be the cheapest.
You don't care. What you care about is that if
there's a problem, you're going to get out there and
fix it lickety split, because that's turning lemons in the lemonade, right.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
That's one thing I care about. The other is walking
away from you know, when I'm done, I want to,
you know, have friends.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I literally look at those customers, we say that you're
like family. You know, I got everybody on my cell phone.
A lot of people don't do this. In fact, I
don't think there's anybody that would do this, especially if
they're doing Christmas lighting. I have everybody has my cell
phone number.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
So if I did.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
A crappy job, I mean that's thousands of thousand customers
a year, whatever, three hundred Christmas customers. I mean, my
phone would never I wouldn't have enough battery, yeah, in
my phone. So at the end of the day, if
we're not friends, at the end of the day, I
probably did a really bad Yeah. You know, we can
do it the easy way or the hard way, but
you're gonna be my friend when we're done.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
The last time that.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Nick has to come over and make you be my friend.
We're going to make you be my friend.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
I can't do collections for you anymore. I'm getting old.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
So why we got Tommy. He's a little younger. Yeah
is he? I don't know, maybe a little he acts younger.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah. Well he shaves his head so you can't see
any gray.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, that's something he does. Little bit on that.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
But what I what I was going to say is
the last time we won the torture word at the
Better Business Bureau, they asked me to say something, and
I basically said. The question was what a business? What
does integrity mean in a business? Place to you? And
I said, it's real simple. I don't have to hide
from my clients in a grocery store. And that's a
big deal, you know. I don't want to have to
hide from people I did work from for And there's

(20:22):
a lot of guys that have to write we all
know how call you nick six.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
I think you ain't hiding in a grocery store. I
mean you stick out like a sore thumb too. That's
just a bad analogy. You go up to your cabin
and hide maybe yeah, in the middle of the woods.
That's why you bought that, I think, but I get it,
I understand, but I can't imagine, and I'm sure that
you would have the same opinion. You know, a bad
day when you're in high school doing going to high school,

(20:47):
you know you didn't do your homework and you didn't
feel so good going in the class. Well, what if
that was like that every day and you did a
crappy job and you got people that are all pissed
off at you, and you're wondering where they're going to
pop out of.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
The woodwork, or what's going on here or there?

Speaker 2 (20:58):
And you know today, you know something, just if you've
been in this business as long you've been in business
and contracting business as long as I have, and you know,
one of the things that I'm sure you're going to
agree with, it's changed. It used to be there were
a few bad guys in the business that And when
I say bad guys, I don't mean bad guys necessarily criminals,
although there's plenty of those. What I'm saying is guys

(21:19):
that just have the mindset of it's the P and
L sheet, nothing else, that's all that matters, And so
they just decide what services they are going to do
based on how big of a loss they're going to
take in things like that. But today today, I you know,
fifty percent of the people out there with with shingles
in that on their houses and signs on their trucks

(21:41):
are not qualified to do what they say they're doing
and probably not ensure. Probably absolutely. Yeah. I don't think
people realize. You know, when you get a big disparity
in a bid, you need to check because if you
don't call up the insurance. I've said this on the
show a million times. If I've said it once, call
up the insurance company and make sure that the certificates
still intact, because you get a year certificate when you pay,

(22:02):
you a first premium. If you don't pay the next month,
if it comes down to insurance and payroll, you're going
to pay payroll. And customers aren't asking those questions. And
that's the problem. You should be getting evidence of insurance.
You should be calling the company. Now. I say that
my customers don't ask me to do that, but we've
been in business since nineteen sixty six and I know
that you have the same thing. But when you're dealing

(22:23):
and there's a big disparity, in bids, whether it's outdoor lighting,
because now we said it last week, every single landscaper
is doing outdoor lighting. Okay. It's kind of like my
auto mechanic decides to start doing dentistry. They don't know
the first thing about it, okay, but they're going to
supplement their business. I think that outdoor lighting is a

(22:43):
very specific thing that you have done. Organizational things is
a very specific thing that you have done. And if
you've got a jack of all trades and master of none,
of course you're going to have problems. Of Course, it's
going to be cheaper, and of course you're going to
be faced with issues down the line.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
And that's why I have Aaron run in half of
it company and I run the other half, and we're
very specific. I'll go out and bid floors and stuff.
I like to keep my you know, pulse on the
business a little bit. But for the most part, were
Oh yeah, she's segregated.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
There's no two ways about it. I've worked in collaboration
with Aaron several times. Not only is she a really decent,
honest person, but she really does know her stuff. She
really does, no two ways about it. She answers questions
that that dumbfound me sometimes from customers about different storage.
She comes up with good ideas, very innovative ideas. And

(23:30):
you guys do the three D renderings too.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, you know, it's kind of amazing when you're running
a business and you really don't appreciate a lot of
the stuff you have. And you know, I have my wife,
Sandy works there and she answers the phone. She does
a lot of the service right ups for world class
lighting needs a little bit of service here and there, and.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
That's helped out a lot.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
And uh, you know the other people that we have
working there, but you know, between you know, Aaron, Sandy,
I got VICKI there, myself in the front office. You're
able to handle all that. And they're all really all
all of them are very good at what they do.
And Aaron is just honed in on the designing aspect
of that. She does a really good job.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
We got about two minutes left and I want to
give you the last minute to give folks numbers and stuff.
But one of the things that I am so impressed
with that I never knew and I probably should have known,
is and it's a stupid, little little quirky things. Those
remotes that you use. I have remotes that are twenty
feet thirty feet actually ones one hundred feet away. I'm

(24:31):
standing in my house. I pushed a button. It turns
on the lights outside, turns the lights off. I mean,
there's a lot of remotes, but you got to walk
up to it and then you got to twist it
for seven different ways to get it to work. It's
just knowing those things that make what you do so
much superior.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yea, I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Nick.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Those operate off of FM frequency and are made by
a company called Lutron, which makes the indoor automation system.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
They're you know, they.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
They're pioneers, no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
They're phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, give out your information. If you're thinking about and
I can vouch for this guy because I am not
only a friend of his, but I'm a customer. If
you're thinking about outdoor lighting, if you're thinking about garage organization,
you're thinking about what they used to call California closets.
I mean, you guys do that. Most people know what
those are. Any kind of storage needs, Christmas lighting, stuff
like that. Tell them about your company, how to get

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a hold of you.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Two six two five four nine fifty four eighty three.
I'm gonna make it simple and just give you one
number two six two five four nine.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Fifty four eighty three. We're in Walkie Shaw.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
We have a nice little showroom and you ever see
my guys out there working, especially this time you're hanging
Christmas lights.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Stop and say hi.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Okay, Kevin. As always, I appreciate having you on. I
think you're the best in the business and always appreciate
everything except your humor, which you're not very good at,
but we'll let that go. Thanks for coming in on.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Someone. Is it trying to be funny about Tommy with
the guns in the drawing?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Dw it was working. You're not funny. It's working here.
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