August 7, 2024 • 10 mins
Former Michigan head football coach Jim Harbaugh was punished by the NCAA over recruiting violations from 2020 and is susended from coaching in the NCAA for one season. Does the NCAA know Harbaugh is working for the Chargers now? I guess not.
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
Hey and.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
Mentioning some of the other medal count synchronized swimming and
artistic swimming.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
The United States won a.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Silver and congratulations to US men's water polo. They won
the gold in a shootout, a penalty shootout with Australia.
They won eleven to ten, so congratulation to them. Not
good news if you're a Rangers fan. Good news if
you're an Astros fan. Astros up five to nothing on
the Rangers as they go to the bottom of the
sixth inning. Astros had runs in the first and third.
(00:29):
In the third inning, they had a home run from
Jordan Alvarez. They got a homer in a three run
sixth inning, just completed. Top of sixth they got a
home run from Victor Caratini, and Mauritia and Dubon had
an RBI double and then jose L two Vavi with
an RBI single. So it's five nothing Astros. It looks
like they're closing in on winning the silver boot again again.
(00:53):
The two teams have split the first twelve games. The
first six games. Okay, this was a story that we
started to talk about on Monday, and it gained legs
as Monday went along and then picked up a little
more momentum on Tuesday, and now it's really rolling, and
(01:17):
this is that story about the Michigan football program. Now
there are two different cases to discuss here. One is
the one that we're all very familiar with the investigation
into the impermissible in person scouting and signs stealing allegations
(01:41):
that happened last year, a three game suspension for Jim Harball,
the head coach, and of course that was the.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The old.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Where and then it and then there was it picked
up momentum about the new Michigan coach, or On Moore,
who's facing allegations that he violated n c rules related
to the investigation in the scouting and signs stealing as well.
According to a draft from the NCAAA, they recommended the
less serious level two violation for more and alleged that
(02:15):
the messages between Sharon Moore and Connor Stallions were recovered
and that the coach provided him to the NCAAA. So
there was that, and then there was the deal of
the whole sign Steeler thing, and then there was a
documentary is coming out. Stallions hasn't said anything about it,
but apparently he has spoken to Netflix and so that
(02:37):
documentary Sign Stealer comes out at the end of this month.
You look a forward to that, so that'll happen. So
you have those things. Stallions has been accused of Level
one violations and so is Jim Harball. Harball's The main
reason why Harball has been hit with the level one
(03:00):
violations is for being uncooperative, not turning over the cell
phone and not turning over those posts and things like that.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So that was you know that the NCAAA, it said.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
The panel noted that Harball's intentional disregard for NCAA legislation
and on ethical conduct amplify the severity of the case.
I prompted the panel to classify Harball's case as Level
one aggravated, so that that's where it is. Now here's
the latest that's come as a result of that. Today,
(03:39):
the NCAA announced a four year show cause order for
Horrorball for the impermissible contact with recruits while during the pandemic.
So that would effectively ban him from college athletics until
August twenty twenty eight. Now, if we're being real or
(04:01):
is anybody expecting to see Jim Harball.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Be back in college athletics.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
If if ever, certainly before August of twenty twenty eight,
I can't see it. I doubt very seriously he's ever
going to be back in college athletics. He's back in
the NFL. He's with the Chargers. They're going to give
him a lot of time to try to fix their issues,
(04:28):
and then if it doesn't work there, he's probably gonna
go somewhere else. I have a hard time seeing him
back in college athletics college football.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
What a joke of a punishment, Craig. I mean, these
violations were something that happened four years ago. Then they
won the national championship, and what's the consequence? And they
got to pay five thousand dollars in fines and he
can't coach. He's already in the NFL. It worked out perfectly.
Harbaugh completely played the system, and maybe he.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Got out ahead of the posse.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
He got he got out of talent ahead of the
Posse's what he did.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So Miss Sharon Moore, who was to pick up some
of the damages. Yeah, that's in an awful spot.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, but he's also his hands are not completely clean either,
and they showed the things there. So Michigan had already
been put on the three years of probation with the
fine and the recruiting limits. Harbal did not go along
with the agreement. He disputed allegations that he failed to
cooperate with investigators, and then I don't know if you
saw this, he had a press conference that went about
(05:25):
five minutes and normally goes about twenty minutes. They said,
and he said, I will not apologize as he said
he didn't. He didn't do it, He didn't do anything.
Harball's not scheduled to speak again with reporters until tomorrow.
So the show cause order started today and it runs
(05:45):
through August sixth, twenty twenty eight. It requires any school
that wants to hire him to suspend him for the
first full season, so there's three years of that and
then and then a suspended season after the Harball would
still be barred from athletics related activities including team travel, practice,
(06:05):
video study, recruiting, and team meetings until the order expires.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So, I mean, what good would it even do a school.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
To hire him when you've got to deal with those
kind of restrictions. Harbball's attorning Tom Mars, has said that
he was not that Harball was not invited to participate
in the settlement process or where then an agreement had
been reached between the school and the NCAAA. The Michigan
Athletic Director Ward Manual said the school accepted the sanctions
(06:34):
and has already served many of the penalties, but the
sign stealing case is still open and it could take
several months to resolve this. Multiple infractions in a short
time period could prompt the NCAA to treat Michigan as
a repeat offender, because remember they had the other problem
earlier during the COVID thing. So your ball said, I
(07:00):
do not apologize. I did not participate. I was not
aware nor complicit in those set allegations. So that's that's
what he said. But you know, he can certainly speak
with that kind of conviction because, like I said, I
don't ever expect to see him coaching college football ever.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Again.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I just don't see I don't see how it could happen.
I just don't see him ever coaching college football. Get
a Like, as I mentioned before, he wanted to. I
think he wanted to stay in the NFL even when
he went back over to Michigan at the time, and
that was coming off the disappointment of the forty nine
Ers season losing in the Super Bowl to Baltimore. So,
(07:46):
you know, so he goes back to the alma mater,
he reaches the pinnacle, he win a national championship, even
with all the clouds hanging over the program and all
other stuff, and then he's able to you know, leave
without any kind of penalty in the moment to go
(08:10):
back to the NFL. And there were teams that were
a year to hire him, and the Chargers were the
ones who won the sweepstakes, and so now he's his
tasked were trying to turn around.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But what it does do is this.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Any escape hatch that Jim Harball would have had by
going back to college football if this doesn't work out
with the Chargers, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Gone now.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Because whatever school hires him is going to have to
suspend him for a year even after the show cause
ends in twenty twenty eight, because it's four year show calls,
and that includes any school that would hire him has
to sit him for a year. And I just don't
see that happening, you know, And as I mentioned, I
(08:55):
think it's kind of moot because I don't see Harball,
you know, winding up back in college football. I think
his career is going to conclude at the NFL level
one way or another. All right, coming up, we're going
to hear some more from longgrn football players. We're gonna
(09:15):
hear from tight end gunner Heilm. It is halftime. US
women's basketball team has opened it up. They have a
nineteen point half time lead on Nigeria fifty two thirty three.
It was a six point game. It was thirty five
to twenty nine, and then the US went on a
seventeen to four run to close out the first half.
Brianna Stewart had a lot to do with that. Stewie
(09:36):
and Kelsey Plumb leading away for Team USA. So they're
up by nineteen and a half. So it looks like
they're going to get into the semifinals and play in
that on Friday. So that's where it is right now
in the United States. Has been sharp and they're up
by nineteen points. They forced eleven first half turnovers as well,
(10:00):
and twenty two other fifty two points have come in
the paint compared to just ten for the Nigerians. All Right,
coming up, we'll hear from Loghorn's tight end gunner Helm,
and we've got some other topics we got to when
we continue on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone,
and the IR radio app.
Hey and.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
Mentioning some of the other medal count synchronized swimming and
artistic swimming.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
The United States won a.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Silver and congratulations to US men's water polo. They won
the gold in a shootout, a penalty shootout with Australia.
They won eleven to ten, so congratulation to them. Not
good news if you're a Rangers fan. Good news if
you're an Astros fan. Astros up five to nothing on
the Rangers as they go to the bottom of the
sixth inning. Astros had runs in the first and third.
(00:29):
In the third inning, they had a home run from
Jordan Alvarez. They got a homer in a three run
sixth inning, just completed. Top of sixth they got a
home run from Victor Caratini, and Mauritia and Dubon had
an RBI double and then jose L two Vavi with
an RBI single. So it's five nothing Astros. It looks
like they're closing in on winning the silver boot again again.
(00:53):
The two teams have split the first twelve games. The
first six games. Okay, this was a story that we
started to talk about on Monday, and it gained legs
as Monday went along and then picked up a little
more momentum on Tuesday, and now it's really rolling, and
(01:17):
this is that story about the Michigan football program. Now
there are two different cases to discuss here. One is
the one that we're all very familiar with the investigation
into the impermissible in person scouting and signs stealing allegations
(01:41):
that happened last year, a three game suspension for Jim Harball,
the head coach, and of course that was the.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The old.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Where and then it and then there was it picked
up momentum about the new Michigan coach, or On Moore,
who's facing allegations that he violated n c rules related
to the investigation in the scouting and signs stealing as well.
According to a draft from the NCAAA, they recommended the
less serious level two violation for more and alleged that
(02:15):
the messages between Sharon Moore and Connor Stallions were recovered
and that the coach provided him to the NCAAA. So
there was that, and then there was the deal of
the whole sign Steeler thing, and then there was a
documentary is coming out. Stallions hasn't said anything about it,
but apparently he has spoken to Netflix and so that
(02:37):
documentary Sign Stealer comes out at the end of this month.
You look a forward to that, so that'll happen. So
you have those things. Stallions has been accused of Level
one violations and so is Jim Harball. Harball's The main
reason why Harball has been hit with the level one
(03:00):
violations is for being uncooperative, not turning over the cell
phone and not turning over those posts and things like that.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So that was you know that the NCAAA, it said.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
The panel noted that Harball's intentional disregard for NCAA legislation
and on ethical conduct amplify the severity of the case.
I prompted the panel to classify Harball's case as Level
one aggravated, so that that's where it is. Now here's
the latest that's come as a result of that. Today,
(03:39):
the NCAA announced a four year show cause order for
Horrorball for the impermissible contact with recruits while during the pandemic.
So that would effectively ban him from college athletics until
August twenty twenty eight. Now, if we're being real or
(04:01):
is anybody expecting to see Jim Harball.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Be back in college athletics.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
If if ever, certainly before August of twenty twenty eight,
I can't see it. I doubt very seriously he's ever
going to be back in college athletics. He's back in
the NFL. He's with the Chargers. They're going to give
him a lot of time to try to fix their issues,
(04:28):
and then if it doesn't work there, he's probably gonna
go somewhere else. I have a hard time seeing him
back in college athletics college football.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
What a joke of a punishment, Craig. I mean, these
violations were something that happened four years ago. Then they
won the national championship, and what's the consequence? And they
got to pay five thousand dollars in fines and he
can't coach. He's already in the NFL. It worked out perfectly.
Harbaugh completely played the system, and maybe he.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Got out ahead of the posse.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
He got he got out of talent ahead of the
Posse's what he did.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So Miss Sharon Moore, who was to pick up some
of the damages. Yeah, that's in an awful spot.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, but he's also his hands are not completely clean either,
and they showed the things there. So Michigan had already
been put on the three years of probation with the
fine and the recruiting limits. Harbal did not go along
with the agreement. He disputed allegations that he failed to
cooperate with investigators, and then I don't know if you
saw this, he had a press conference that went about
(05:25):
five minutes and normally goes about twenty minutes. They said,
and he said, I will not apologize as he said
he didn't. He didn't do it, He didn't do anything.
Harball's not scheduled to speak again with reporters until tomorrow.
So the show cause order started today and it runs
(05:45):
through August sixth, twenty twenty eight. It requires any school
that wants to hire him to suspend him for the
first full season, so there's three years of that and
then and then a suspended season after the Harball would
still be barred from athletics related activities including team travel, practice,
(06:05):
video study, recruiting, and team meetings until the order expires.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So, I mean, what good would it even do a school.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
To hire him when you've got to deal with those
kind of restrictions. Harbball's attorning Tom Mars, has said that
he was not that Harball was not invited to participate
in the settlement process or where then an agreement had
been reached between the school and the NCAAA. The Michigan
Athletic Director Ward Manual said the school accepted the sanctions
(06:34):
and has already served many of the penalties, but the
sign stealing case is still open and it could take
several months to resolve this. Multiple infractions in a short
time period could prompt the NCAA to treat Michigan as
a repeat offender, because remember they had the other problem
earlier during the COVID thing. So your ball said, I
(07:00):
do not apologize. I did not participate. I was not
aware nor complicit in those set allegations. So that's that's
what he said. But you know, he can certainly speak
with that kind of conviction because, like I said, I
don't ever expect to see him coaching college football ever.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Again.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I just don't see I don't see how it could happen.
I just don't see him ever coaching college football. Get
a Like, as I mentioned before, he wanted to. I
think he wanted to stay in the NFL even when
he went back over to Michigan at the time, and
that was coming off the disappointment of the forty nine
Ers season losing in the Super Bowl to Baltimore. So,
(07:46):
you know, so he goes back to the alma mater,
he reaches the pinnacle, he win a national championship, even
with all the clouds hanging over the program and all
other stuff, and then he's able to you know, leave
without any kind of penalty in the moment to go
(08:10):
back to the NFL. And there were teams that were
a year to hire him, and the Chargers were the
ones who won the sweepstakes, and so now he's his
tasked were trying to turn around.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But what it does do is this.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Any escape hatch that Jim Harball would have had by
going back to college football if this doesn't work out
with the Chargers, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Gone now.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Because whatever school hires him is going to have to
suspend him for a year even after the show cause
ends in twenty twenty eight, because it's four year show calls,
and that includes any school that would hire him has
to sit him for a year. And I just don't
see that happening, you know, And as I mentioned, I
(08:55):
think it's kind of moot because I don't see Harball,
you know, winding up back in college football. I think
his career is going to conclude at the NFL level
one way or another. All right, coming up, we're going
to hear some more from longgrn football players. We're gonna
(09:15):
hear from tight end gunner Heilm. It is halftime. US
women's basketball team has opened it up. They have a
nineteen point half time lead on Nigeria fifty two thirty three.
It was a six point game. It was thirty five
to twenty nine, and then the US went on a
seventeen to four run to close out the first half.
Brianna Stewart had a lot to do with that. Stewie
(09:36):
and Kelsey Plumb leading away for Team USA. So they're
up by nineteen and a half. So it looks like
they're going to get into the semifinals and play in
that on Friday. So that's where it is right now
in the United States. Has been sharp and they're up
by nineteen points. They forced eleven first half turnovers as well,
(10:00):
and twenty two other fifty two points have come in
the paint compared to just ten for the Nigerians. All Right,
coming up, we'll hear from Loghorn's tight end gunner Helm,
and we've got some other topics we got to when
we continue on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone,
and the IR radio app.
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