December 11, 2024 • 11 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I mentioned that next hour we're going to hear from
Vick Shaffer, Texas women's basketball head coach. We'll hear some
next hour and then some of the four o'clock hour
tomorrow we'll hear from Rodney Terry. In those same hours
as well, we'll hear from the Loghorns men's head coach.
On the eve of their matchup against New Mexico State.
(00:22):
They play the New Mexico State Aggies tomorrow evening at
Moody Center at seven o'clock. Hope to see you out there,
and of course you can also hear it tomorrow evening.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Is it also on ninety eight one tomorrow seven o'clock tip?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, I thought I remember that, but I just wanted
to make sure they want to speak out a turn
on that. But also in addition to here on a
thirteen hundred zone, it is also on ninety eight point
one Fmkvett tomorrow night. New Mexico's State, by the ways,
coach by Jason Houghton. You may recognize the name. He
(01:00):
was a coach at Sam Houston and did a really
good job there. But he's been around a lot. In fact,
our man Mike Hardball Harge must know him well. You see,
Jason Newton played at Colleen Ellison and uh, and of
(01:22):
course that's where Arch is from. And Harge has him
on the show tomorrow morning. So Jason Newton will be
on on the program tomorrow morning. Uh, He'll be on
the morning kickoff with Hardball and also with Mark Henry.
That'll be tomorrow morning from seven to nine here on
the Zone. So yeah, and they also have the mayor on.
(01:44):
Kwan Cosby have Q on tomorrow as well to talk
some long WRN football. But Jason Newton is from Colleen
in fact, an old friend of mine. This is this
is weird about all the family connections. A longtime friend
of mine is Dennis who used to be the boys
basketball coach at Westwood got him to the state tournament
one year, and he'd coached girls at Round Rocket that
(02:06):
has been around a while. His brother, Darden Burton, was
my college roommate, one of my college roommates when we
went to North Texas together. Dennis and I have known
a long known each other a long time. And of
course Dennis, of course, like I said, coach high school
basketball in the area for a long time. And we
were texting and he said, I coached against Jason Hooton
(02:27):
when he played at Colleen Ellison, and one of my
best players, Ashton Mitchell, played for him at Sam Houston.
So yeah, the connections that go forward on that New
Mexico stable going at four and five in the game
of Mare of the Longhorns have only played them four
times in their history. The last time they played them
(02:48):
was November twenty third. It was two thousand and eight.
I remember this. This is in Newark in the Legends
Classic and Texas played in that event, did really well,
wanted I think, beat Tennessee in the finals that year,
and that was in Newark there at the Prudential Center, which,
(03:09):
by the way, is where the Texas women will be
playing Maryland on MLK Day. They're in Newark, New Jersey,
so anyway, there's there's some things they haven't played in there.
And they also played New Mexico State in the NCAA
Tournament the year that Kevin Durant played for Texas, the
O six oh seven season, they played up in Spokane
and in the first round. Marvin Menzies was the head
(03:29):
coach of New Mexico State back then, and the Long
Runs beat them before losing the USC and OJ Mayo
in a four versus five matchup in the second round
for the tournament. Yeah, so there was that NFL notes
that I wanted to get to you familiar with Noah Brown.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, former House state receiver played at Dallas for a
couple of years and then just signed with the Texans
for a little bit maybe and then I don't know
where he's at now.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh, you should remember him. You should remember him. He's
the one who caught the hail mary against the Bears.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Ah, that's right. He was Washington that they called it
what Noah's ark or something like that like that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Unfortunately, he's likely going to miss the rest of the
season after suffering what is being described as a significant
internal injury. Now, if you ask me, almost any internal
injury is significant. That's like saying, you know, that's kind
(04:31):
of from the Department of redundancy department, you know, significant
internal injury. Anyway, it was described as a rib injury,
and of course Dan Quinn, they head coach there, said
he's not been placed on injured reserve, but it's likely
(04:53):
heading that way. He's the one who caught that hail
mary passed against the Bears. Back on October twenty seventh,
the Commander's eight and five, and right now they're holding
on to the seven seed in the playoff race, heading
in the Sunday's game at New Orleans. So which brings
(05:14):
me to my question for you Cam. First of all,
with a look at the weekend schedule, RAMS forty nine
ers tomorrow night, all right, then the Sunday schedule, Kansas
City at Cleveland, Cincinnati at Tennessee. The Kansas City Cleveland
(05:34):
thing doesn't really for me hold a great deal of suspense.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I think the Chiefs will handle their business.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
We saw Cleveland beat Pittsburgh in a blizzard up there
a little over a week ago. But still Cincinnati, Tennessee, Washington,
New Orleans is important. Baltimore playing at the Giants I
don't think Baltimore at the Giants is that significant other
than the fact that the Ravens are what two games
back of the Steelers, so they really have to keep
(06:02):
winning on that. Jets of Jacksonville not significant. And then
you've got you've got some significant games here.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, all right, I'm gonna say the Cowboys and the
Panthers is not significant. Now that the Cowboys are really wow,
you know who's favorite in that game? Craig Carolina is right?
How about that? How about that tells how far the match?
In week three? After a week four, after Bryce got benched,
being told yeah, the Panthers are going to be favored
(06:33):
in that game, you're thinking, Wow, is Andy Dalton on
a heater to the Cowboys team plane crash? Nope, Cowboys
just sucking. Bryce Young actually turns out to be good quarterback.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, he's not a bust like a lot of people thought.
Through three weeks and a disaster and all that other
kind of stuff. I just needed some time.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And the same people who are saying that about kill
Williams right now, ye take no, please, just take no. Yes,
it's okay to be patient. History teaches us.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
In this game that quarterbacks that you think are not
very good in their first couple of years wind up
blossoming into pretty good quarterbacks. And I'm going to take
you all the way back to the late fifties on this.
I think the first big example this was Bart Starr
when he was with the Packers. His first three years.
He was either on the bench or splitting time. Lombardi
(07:22):
comes in and people thought, hey, not so much Johnny
and Ninis was cut by the Steelers and had to
hitch hike homb in nineteen fifty five and was playing
semi pro football for a team called the Bloomfield Rams
in the Pittsburgh area for six dollars a game on
Thursday nights until the Colts saw his name on the
(07:44):
waiver wire and a couple other things and brought him
in and then the rest was history.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
So those two guys were like that.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
There were other quarterbacks throughout the sixties into the seventies
that people kind of gave up on.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Billy Kilmer was a running back when he was the
forty nine.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Ers, coming out of use and eventually blossomed into an
NFL caliber quarterback. There were a lot of people giving
up on Roger Staubach because the military commitment and saying
that he couldn't get it done, and finally Tom Landry
gave him the full time chance midway through the seventy
one season and they go on to win their first
Super Bowl. So there are lots of examples of this
(08:24):
over the years. There are those who would say that
the Rams gave up on Zared Goff. I disagree with that.
He was their starter he played, they went to a
Super Bowl, but the Rams didn't think he could get
them over the hump, and that's why they made the
deal with the Lions. The trade seems to have worked
out for both sides. Matthew Stafford led him to a
Super Bowl and win, and GoF has Lions with the
(08:45):
best record in the NFL right now, So that that
appears to be one of those rare trades that benefits POSTA.
I'll give you another one. This is the guy who
was a great player and won two Super Bowls, Jim Plunkett.
He was drafted by the Patriots. They had a horrific
offensive on they were still known as the Boston Patriots,
changing their name to the New England Patriots. And year
(09:07):
they drafted him, and he was viewed as being a
bust for the Patriots and then the forty nine ers,
and mean, he played on bad teams. He finally got
with a good team. He got with the Raiders and
they went two Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So sometimes it just.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Takes time with quarterbacks for them to you know, fully develop.
Did you mention Sam Darnold, Sam Donold, there's another thing.
I mean, the New York Jets quit him yep. These
San Francisco forty nine ers quit him. The Carolina Panthers
quit him on this fourth team, I think, yeah, and
you know it's working with the Vices.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Fans, plug your ears. Baker Mayfield, same thing. Yeah, no
number one draft pick now of course in Cleveland, he
was injured for most of his tenure there.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And it's the Cleveland Browns organization. They for quarterbacks. It's
the Siberia of the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But it's two guys that I mean. The Vikings are
a game back from the Detroit Lion who are the
prohibitive favorite in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So Vikings are going to be in the playoffs. Yeah, sure,
for sure wins. Yeah, and he's a big reason why
on that Miami in Houston. That's an important game. Miami
still kind of hanging out there with a shot at
the playoffs. Texans trying to maintain their hole on the
South Colts at Denver, important Colts on the outside of
(10:26):
the shot maybe to get in Denver. Very much in
playoff contention Buffalo and Detroit. It lost a little bit
of its luster, a little bit, a little bit of
its luster when the Bills lost to the Rams. Still
important game, very important game playing in Detroit. Pittsburgh at Philadelphia,
huge game. If two division leaders in the Keystone State,
(10:47):
that's big. New England and Arizona not so much other
than the Cardinals trying to hang around there in the
NFC West, Tampa Bay at the Chargers that is important
for both teams with regard to playoffs. In Green Bay
at c APP is big. And then and then they
went back to another double header on Monday night. There's
another double hitter Bears Vikings. That one's on ABC and
(11:11):
Falcons Raiders on ESPN. Okay Raiders not so much. Falcon's
still with a shot. So anyway, I look at some
NFL notes and things up next inconceivable that's next here
on sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone and the
iHeartRadio app
I mentioned that next hour we're going to hear from
Vick Shaffer, Texas women's basketball head coach. We'll hear some
next hour and then some of the four o'clock hour
tomorrow we'll hear from Rodney Terry. In those same hours
as well, we'll hear from the Loghorns men's head coach.
On the eve of their matchup against New Mexico State.
(00:22):
They play the New Mexico State Aggies tomorrow evening at
Moody Center at seven o'clock. Hope to see you out there,
and of course you can also hear it tomorrow evening.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Is it also on ninety eight one tomorrow seven o'clock tip?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, I thought I remember that, but I just wanted
to make sure they want to speak out a turn
on that. But also in addition to here on a
thirteen hundred zone, it is also on ninety eight point
one Fmkvett tomorrow night. New Mexico's State, by the ways,
coach by Jason Houghton. You may recognize the name. He
(01:00):
was a coach at Sam Houston and did a really
good job there. But he's been around a lot. In fact,
our man Mike Hardball Harge must know him well. You see,
Jason Newton played at Colleen Ellison and uh, and of
(01:22):
course that's where Arch is from. And Harge has him
on the show tomorrow morning. So Jason Newton will be
on on the program tomorrow morning. Uh, He'll be on
the morning kickoff with Hardball and also with Mark Henry.
That'll be tomorrow morning from seven to nine here on
the Zone. So yeah, and they also have the mayor on.
(01:44):
Kwan Cosby have Q on tomorrow as well to talk
some long WRN football. But Jason Newton is from Colleen
in fact, an old friend of mine. This is this
is weird about all the family connections. A longtime friend
of mine is Dennis who used to be the boys
basketball coach at Westwood got him to the state tournament
one year, and he'd coached girls at Round Rocket that
(02:06):
has been around a while. His brother, Darden Burton, was
my college roommate, one of my college roommates when we
went to North Texas together. Dennis and I have known
a long known each other a long time. And of
course Dennis, of course, like I said, coach high school
basketball in the area for a long time. And we
were texting and he said, I coached against Jason Hooton
(02:27):
when he played at Colleen Ellison, and one of my
best players, Ashton Mitchell, played for him at Sam Houston.
So yeah, the connections that go forward on that New
Mexico stable going at four and five in the game
of Mare of the Longhorns have only played them four
times in their history. The last time they played them
(02:48):
was November twenty third. It was two thousand and eight.
I remember this. This is in Newark in the Legends
Classic and Texas played in that event, did really well,
wanted I think, beat Tennessee in the finals that year,
and that was in Newark there at the Prudential Center, which,
(03:09):
by the way, is where the Texas women will be
playing Maryland on MLK Day. They're in Newark, New Jersey,
so anyway, there's there's some things they haven't played in there.
And they also played New Mexico State in the NCAA
Tournament the year that Kevin Durant played for Texas, the
O six oh seven season, they played up in Spokane
and in the first round. Marvin Menzies was the head
(03:29):
coach of New Mexico State back then, and the Long
Runs beat them before losing the USC and OJ Mayo
in a four versus five matchup in the second round
for the tournament. Yeah, so there was that NFL notes
that I wanted to get to you familiar with Noah Brown.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, former House state receiver played at Dallas for a
couple of years and then just signed with the Texans
for a little bit maybe and then I don't know
where he's at now.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh, you should remember him. You should remember him. He's
the one who caught the hail mary against the Bears.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Ah, that's right. He was Washington that they called it
what Noah's ark or something like that like that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Unfortunately, he's likely going to miss the rest of the
season after suffering what is being described as a significant
internal injury. Now, if you ask me, almost any internal
injury is significant. That's like saying, you know, that's kind
(04:31):
of from the Department of redundancy department, you know, significant
internal injury. Anyway, it was described as a rib injury,
and of course Dan Quinn, they head coach there, said
he's not been placed on injured reserve, but it's likely
(04:53):
heading that way. He's the one who caught that hail
mary passed against the Bears. Back on October twenty seventh,
the Commander's eight and five, and right now they're holding
on to the seven seed in the playoff race, heading
in the Sunday's game at New Orleans. So which brings
(05:14):
me to my question for you Cam. First of all,
with a look at the weekend schedule, RAMS forty nine
ers tomorrow night, all right, then the Sunday schedule, Kansas
City at Cleveland, Cincinnati at Tennessee. The Kansas City Cleveland
(05:34):
thing doesn't really for me hold a great deal of suspense.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I think the Chiefs will handle their business.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
We saw Cleveland beat Pittsburgh in a blizzard up there
a little over a week ago. But still Cincinnati, Tennessee, Washington,
New Orleans is important. Baltimore playing at the Giants I
don't think Baltimore at the Giants is that significant other
than the fact that the Ravens are what two games
back of the Steelers, so they really have to keep
(06:02):
winning on that. Jets of Jacksonville not significant. And then
you've got you've got some significant games here.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, all right, I'm gonna say the Cowboys and the
Panthers is not significant. Now that the Cowboys are really wow,
you know who's favorite in that game? Craig Carolina is right?
How about that? How about that tells how far the match?
In week three? After a week four, after Bryce got benched,
being told yeah, the Panthers are going to be favored
(06:33):
in that game, you're thinking, Wow, is Andy Dalton on
a heater to the Cowboys team plane crash? Nope, Cowboys
just sucking. Bryce Young actually turns out to be good quarterback.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, he's not a bust like a lot of people thought.
Through three weeks and a disaster and all that other
kind of stuff. I just needed some time.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And the same people who are saying that about kill
Williams right now, ye take no, please, just take no. Yes,
it's okay to be patient. History teaches us.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
In this game that quarterbacks that you think are not
very good in their first couple of years wind up
blossoming into pretty good quarterbacks. And I'm going to take
you all the way back to the late fifties on this.
I think the first big example this was Bart Starr
when he was with the Packers. His first three years.
He was either on the bench or splitting time. Lombardi
(07:22):
comes in and people thought, hey, not so much Johnny
and Ninis was cut by the Steelers and had to
hitch hike homb in nineteen fifty five and was playing
semi pro football for a team called the Bloomfield Rams
in the Pittsburgh area for six dollars a game on
Thursday nights until the Colts saw his name on the
(07:44):
waiver wire and a couple other things and brought him
in and then the rest was history.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
So those two guys were like that.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
There were other quarterbacks throughout the sixties into the seventies
that people kind of gave up on.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Billy Kilmer was a running back when he was the
forty nine.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Ers, coming out of use and eventually blossomed into an
NFL caliber quarterback. There were a lot of people giving
up on Roger Staubach because the military commitment and saying
that he couldn't get it done, and finally Tom Landry
gave him the full time chance midway through the seventy
one season and they go on to win their first
Super Bowl. So there are lots of examples of this
(08:24):
over the years. There are those who would say that
the Rams gave up on Zared Goff. I disagree with that.
He was their starter he played, they went to a
Super Bowl, but the Rams didn't think he could get
them over the hump, and that's why they made the
deal with the Lions. The trade seems to have worked
out for both sides. Matthew Stafford led him to a
Super Bowl and win, and GoF has Lions with the
(08:45):
best record in the NFL right now, So that that
appears to be one of those rare trades that benefits POSTA.
I'll give you another one. This is the guy who
was a great player and won two Super Bowls, Jim Plunkett.
He was drafted by the Patriots. They had a horrific
offensive on they were still known as the Boston Patriots,
changing their name to the New England Patriots. And year
(09:07):
they drafted him, and he was viewed as being a
bust for the Patriots and then the forty nine ers,
and mean, he played on bad teams. He finally got
with a good team. He got with the Raiders and
they went two Super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So sometimes it just.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Takes time with quarterbacks for them to you know, fully develop.
Did you mention Sam Darnold, Sam Donold, there's another thing.
I mean, the New York Jets quit him yep. These
San Francisco forty nine ers quit him. The Carolina Panthers
quit him on this fourth team, I think, yeah, and
you know it's working with the Vices.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Fans, plug your ears. Baker Mayfield, same thing. Yeah, no
number one draft pick now of course in Cleveland, he
was injured for most of his tenure there.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
And it's the Cleveland Browns organization. They for quarterbacks. It's
the Siberia of the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
But it's two guys that I mean. The Vikings are
a game back from the Detroit Lion who are the
prohibitive favorite in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So Vikings are going to be in the playoffs. Yeah, sure,
for sure wins. Yeah, and he's a big reason why
on that Miami in Houston. That's an important game. Miami
still kind of hanging out there with a shot at
the playoffs. Texans trying to maintain their hole on the
South Colts at Denver, important Colts on the outside of
(10:26):
the shot maybe to get in Denver. Very much in
playoff contention Buffalo and Detroit. It lost a little bit
of its luster, a little bit, a little bit of
its luster when the Bills lost to the Rams. Still
important game, very important game playing in Detroit. Pittsburgh at Philadelphia,
huge game. If two division leaders in the Keystone State,
(10:47):
that's big. New England and Arizona not so much other
than the Cardinals trying to hang around there in the
NFC West, Tampa Bay at the Chargers that is important
for both teams with regard to playoffs. In Green Bay
at c APP is big. And then and then they
went back to another double header on Monday night. There's
another double hitter Bears Vikings. That one's on ABC and
(11:11):
Falcons Raiders on ESPN. Okay Raiders not so much. Falcon's
still with a shot. So anyway, I look at some
NFL notes and things up next inconceivable that's next here
on sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone and the
iHeartRadio app
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