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January 8, 2025 • 78 mins
Get over the midweek hump with Craig Way and Cameron Parker! On Wednesday's show, they recap the Longhorns' loss to No. 2 Auburn last night at Moody Center and hear from coach Rodney Terry. Texas Women's Basketball coach Vic Schaefer got on his "soapbox" during his Tuesday media availability, discussing the rough scheduling for the team this season. Plus, NFL Playoff preview from Craig and Cam.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Get after doing.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Everybody, welcome to the program here on Sports Radio AM
thirteen under the Zone. My name is Craig Waite. No,
I have not yet gone up to the dal for Metroplex.
I know there's like this mass exodus today. The long
warn football team headed up there right now. The athletic
department personnel headed up there. In fact, there are several

(00:23):
from the athletic department who have encouraged and urged others
who have a specific or cential function with the football
program's appearance in the Goodyear Cotton Bowl there in the
semifinals of the college football playoff to get up there
on Wednesday instead of Thursday because of what could happen.

(00:44):
Updated weather information that I received this morning is it
might not be quite as bad as folks seven originally anticipated.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Can imagine that?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Can meteorological forecast be a little over the top, Well,
maybe maybe not?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Find out.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Glad to have you with us on the program, and
of course us includes the producer of this program, Cameron D.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Parker.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
The D on the birth certificate stands for Dallas, as
in his favorite pro football team that has packed away
the gear, but it could be for Dicey as in
the weather when you and Mike Hardball Harge Mark Henry
head up there to bring everybody the Longhorns game Day
show from Boomer Jackson, Arlington. That's at I thirty and

(01:32):
one fifty seven right there in the Lincoln Center shopping center.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
So it could be a little when's your planning to leave?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Is it sometime Friday morning? Friday morning? Yeah, you know,
the worst of it may already have passed by the
time you leave Friday morning. Yeah, what folks are thinking
may be more of an issue, could be tomorrow night,
might be an issue.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
So we'll see about that.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
All right, let me tell you what's coming up on
the program here in a minute, we'll let you hear
from Rodney Terry, long worn men's basketball coach.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
For a couple of reasons.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
One to recap the game last night against number two Auburn,
a game of the long Worn trail by twenty one
points of twelve fifty seven to go and cut it
to three twice in the final minute, did not pack
it in, gave a really game effort to themselves.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
But Auburn, obviously number.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Two in the nation for a reason, really really good
and they were able to hold on for the victory.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
We'll hear from Rodney Terry about that.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Also the other reasons that the reminder that our SEC
Conference season premiere of Long Worn Weekly with Rodney Erry
from Pluckers is going to be recorded tonight. Normally it'll
be Thursday evenings live at six o'clock at Plucker's the
West Campus location. It's at twenty two twenty two Rio

(02:47):
Grand normally this particular week because of the weather and
to allow the Long Worn fans who normally come out
to the show but are thinking they might need to
get an early start to Arlington in the Dallas Fort
Worth area chance to do that. So as a result
of that, the show is going to be recorded tonight.

(03:07):
It'll be recorded this evening from six o'clock to seven o'clock.
So if you want to come out for the show,
Julian Larry Longhorns guard we'll join us out at the show,
so we hope you'll have a chance to that.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
You know who else is going to be on the show,
cam I do you do?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
For folks who don't know who Darby Rich is, he's
an interesting dude. Uh and he is also the Long
Orange Strength and Conditioning coach, and so Julian Larry will
come out the long orange guard and Darby Rich.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I'm always interested.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
In getting the frame of mind of the of the
strength coach because a lot of times he is the
closest guy to the players, closer even than the head coach,
because he spends an incredible amount of time with them
in their conditioning and they're off season work and then

(04:09):
in season work as well.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
So you've got to know Darby pretty well.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, real nice guy. You know, he's been around the block.
He had a lot of good experience. He's worked at
Oklahoma with Blake Griffin. He's worked at Texas A and
M with Alex Caruso. He's worked at Memphis with with
Penny Hardaway and those guys, and now at Texas. So
a wealth of knowledge and he gets fired up man.
You know, there's a lot of times during the games

(04:33):
where he's out almost at mid court, you know, barking
at the players of the referees. So he's a very
passionate guy and he's done a good job so far
this season with this team.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, so we'll visit with Darby, We'll visit with Julian Larry.
Tonight is when we record the program on Loghorn Weekly
with Rodney Terry normally, as I said, it'll be live
Thursday nights at six. Tonight, we're recording it from six
to seven. Then it's airing tomorrow night. It's airing at
seven o'clock tomorrow night, isn't it just six to seven?

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay? Okay, six o'clock all right, So.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
It'll air in its normal slot six o'clock tomorrow night,
but we're recording it tonight at six, So just wanted
to make you aware of that, all right. Also, we're
gonna hear from Vic Schaeffer, the Texas women's basketball coach,
had his media availability, and you know how Vic can
get on a roll.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well, he got on a roll yesterday and a.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Lot of it was haranguing against the Southeastern Conference for
scheduling women's conference games on Thursdays and Sundays. His point
being they don't really get a true day off for
the players because of that. And it even gets into
a little ecumenical discussion because you know, some kids would
like to be able to attend church on a Sunday
can't do it as a result of that.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
So you're gonna hear Vic on this.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
We're gonna bring you portions of it because the entirety
of it is pretty long. So we're gonna bring you
portions in the two o'clock hour, the three o'clock hour,
in the.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Four o'clock hour, we're gonna We're gonna do that as well.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
We'll talk some NBA A huge game to night Oklahoma
City and Cleveland Thunder with a fifteen game winning streak
and the Cavaliers with a ten game winning streak, and
that'll be going on tonight Cleveland. You know former long
Horns stand out Jared Allen playing for the Cavaliers, So
we'll talk about that some NFL. We'll get to all that,

(06:18):
but right now, let's hear the postgame conversation that we
got right after the Longhorns lost the game last night
to Auburn, and again they were down twenty one, they
cut it to three twice in the final minutes, and
the conversation that Eddie Orn and I had with head
coach Trondy Terry. I say this up from because I
know how you feel about this. We live in the
world of no moral victories. Having said all of that,

(06:41):
the fight, the resiliency, the toughness. Your team showed from
down twenty one to cut it the three twice in
the final minute of the ballgame.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
You had to be pleased with that.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
No, you know, echo your same thing you just said.
I said that to our team with Texas, don't we don't.
We don't celebrate a more satisfied with more victories. We
expected win every game that we we line up and play,
lace up to play. That's a really good team over there.
You know, Bruce has a really good team. They're finding
four caliber team. I thought a guy showed a lot
of fight. I thought that kept competing. I think again,

(07:10):
you know, early in our journey here in comforts play,
our guys are learning what it takes to play for
forty minutes and when it's gonna take the win it
in this conference.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
What was the biggest thing you noticed in the final
twelve minutes that turned it to where your team.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Gave itself a chance by the fight they showed.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Well, we said we had to try to sit down
and get some stops, and if we were able to
put some stops together, we could come down and find
a way to score and get what we needed to
get done. On the other end, you know, and it's
a long game and that's what our guys are finding
out again in the two games we played, you know,
both of the games have come down to possession games.
You know, they extended the game over there and then
we got more points. That's toward the end. But really,

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you know, seven minutes to go, it's anybody's game, you know,
just learning to work the game. You know, we have
four new starters. Both of those teams have older players
that know how to close our game and win games.
That's that's the growth curfter for our team. But I
love that effort. I loved are still want to and
trying to get it done and we're gonna find a way.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, and two of those guys that had that that
want to.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Jordan gives you seventeen and the second half an art
what a ball game, a career game for him with
the thirty four.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah, we did a much better job of taking care
of the basketball in the second half. We had nine
turner was in a half. That was one thing that
was really hurting us. And you know, they're points in
the paint early. They made some threes early. They're a
really good shooting team, probably the best shooting team we
played all year and again that's a team that could
go to the final four. And I think we have
a really good team. I think we're just going through
a little growth curve in terms of understanding what it

(08:35):
takes to win this league.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
For forty minutes, Ronny, A lot of positive takeout of
this game, But you got a tough one coming in here, Saraday.
Not a lot of time to get ready. But another
team that's coming here. But I think it's you know,
these guys will build off of this one.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Again, a number one team in the country coming in.
Coach Barnes. You know, his team's always physical. You know
they play with the tough defensive mindset.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
You know.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
But we'll regroup, we'll be ready, play in ready to
compete at high level.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, I think I have two mad basketball teams in
here on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
I mean, I mean it's not easy to win in
this league, and then this league's hard.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Now it's nothing.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
We got the best league in the country, and you know,
again every night, you got to come play at a
high level. You don't have to play perfect, but you've
got to play at a high level and you've got
to play with a lot of urgency, and you got
to be extremely tough and competitive to get it done.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, there were a couple of references to me. First
of all, mentioned Jordan Pope had seventeen points and in
the second half, and then Arthur Khumba a career game
for him. His career I had been twenty eight at
Kansas State. He had thirty four points and eight rebounds
last night for Texas to try to At one point,
Kaluma had scored fifteen of the long range twenty four points.

(09:44):
So he kept them in the ball game and worked
real hard. The other thing we were talking about, number
two has come and left Town Auburn with that five
point win eighty seven, eighty two. Now number one comes in. Yes,
they're not going to be number one for long. In
case you didn't hear about it, the Tennessee Volunteers, of course,
Rick Barnes team the last unbeaten team in the country,

(10:06):
and they are unbeaten no more. Not only did they
lose at Florida last night, they lost by thirty thirty
seventy three, forty three. They hit four to three pointers
in twenty nine attempts in the first half. They were
four for twenty nine from the field overall, so they're
going to come in obviously coming in hot, a little
mad about how they did. So that'll be Saturday afternoon

(10:29):
at five o'clock as Texas will host number one Tennessee.
You can hear that here on AM thirteen under the
Zone beginning at four thirty Saturday afternoon, the tip off
at five o'clock. All right, up, next, we're going to
hear from Vick Schaeffer, Texas women's head coach when we
continue on sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone. The
Loghorns are trying to get to number one, the Texas

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women's basketball team, and right now they're number one on
top tie to top the SEC standings with Alabama and
they're going to face the Crimson time.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Tomorrow night at Moody Center.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
So Walwar's head coach Vic Schaeffer, had a media availability
that lasted was a little bit lengthy, so we've kind
of cut it up and we're gonna let you hear
parts of it each hour because he has some really
interesting points that he's making about things and his thoughts
on the state of the game and SEC scheduling and
stuff like that. So here's Part one of the media

(11:24):
availability with Vic Schaeffer.

Speaker 7 (11:27):
Good afternoon, everybody appreciate you being on today. Another's second
week down the SEC and just got out of practice,
had a good workout this morning, a lot of film
and getting ready for a Top twenty matchup of another

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one with Alabama. Virtually the same team, except they've added
a sick their seventh year player and Zay Green, who's
was a heck of a player coming out of high school.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
He's had a great career.

Speaker 7 (12:05):
In college, and she's now added so much to their
to their team, and so we're, uh, you know, we're
we're gonna have to really obviously they're a really good
basketball team, and we're gonna have to play well. Uh,
Christy does a great job, or her staff, her husband,

(12:29):
they've been around a long time. But just really, no,
we've we've got a big test in front of us
on Thursday night. You know, Zay's averaging almost seventeen a
game and four and a half rebounds a game, shooting
it at a high percentage fifty three percent. Of course,

(12:49):
they've got Barker back, who's an All SEC performer. It's
right behind her at almost sixteen points a game.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
And six rebounds a game. So that's a good place
to start.

Speaker 7 (12:59):
And they got a Leah and I back who's a
monster out there that can shoot it, you know, shooting
forty five percent from three and averaging fourteen a game.
So and then they got the aircraft carrier inside who's
much improved from a year ago, essence Cody, and she's
averaging eleven a game and seven rebounds. So this is

(13:21):
a really good basketball team. This will be a you know,
a really big test for us, and we're gonna have
to play well.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
So yesterday was the day off. Today we got back.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
At it and we got to get ready to play
again another top twenty team in the SEC. Proud of
Jordan Usbwa freshman National Freshman the Week and certainly deserving.
You know, she's she's really shooting it well for us

(13:58):
right now, playing at a high level. She's a great defender,
but she's shooting it at a really extraordinary mark right now,
and just in her last five she's shooting it really well,
fifty from three on the season, I think sixty percent
in the last five games. So she's really developed offensively

(14:18):
and is providing us both ends of the floor right now.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
And so it's it's good to have a have her
in there and being able to make shots. Thanks coach,
Let's go Mark and then Denny.

Speaker 8 (14:33):
Yeah, Heyvig. Speaking of Jordan, was she known more as
kind of a mid range player in high school? And
does she need to be a starter an hour?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
She ready for that? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (14:47):
You know, first question is I think we thought she
could score it all three levels. I watched her in
aau a lot, you know, went out to the West
coast a bunch more than I've ever done in recruiting.
In I think the thing that stood out to me
I knew she could score, and I knew she was
really smart and good offensively, but she's way ahead of

(15:10):
the curve defensively. She's really really a great help defender.
She's got great feet defensively on ball. So she's tough.
She's a tough kid, really competitive kid. So I think
her stats right now certainly warrant. You know, if we
wanted to start her, we could. I think the dilemma is,
do you want to bring in somebody like her who's

(15:32):
really bring something offensively to the table and defensively, or
do you want to start her and then now you're
bringing in, you know, somebody who might not be playing
as well as she is. So that's the million dollar question.
We'll find out Thursday night. I'm big first.

Speaker 9 (15:52):
I don't know if it makes a huge difference, but
big picture wise, do you like this format go on
Thursday Sundays as opposed to I guess it was Wednesday
Saturday in the Big twelve and it's the same distance
between games and stuff like that. But do you like
this Thursday Sunday format or doesn't make a difference?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
No, I hate it.

Speaker 7 (16:09):
I think it's you know, I think it's it sends
a bad message to me personally, to your student athletes,
to your coaches. This all started Danny back in the
day when our window for TV was only one day
a week and that was on Sunday. And the commissioner
then two commissioners ago, said hey, if you want to

(16:30):
play on TV, you got to play on Sunday. We're
in the Bible Belt, most of the SEC's in the
Bible Belt, and you're asking these kids to play on Sundays.
You're asking coaches to work on Sunday mornings. I just again,
it fits the world, right, the world is it's that

(16:51):
way and I hate it though. I just think it
sends a horrible, horrible message. I have a lot of
kids grew up in the church, and whether they would
go or not, one thing's for sure. They're not going
in this format, and so I'm dead against it. I've

(17:11):
been raising hell about it for years. I think it's
in the old days of the Landers and Summit and
Champions and those people when you're trying to get your
teams or the game on TV, that was one thing.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
But even in Landers late years.

Speaker 7 (17:31):
Matthew Mitchell at Kentucky, you know myself, I think people
have seen the real value of giving kids a true
day off.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
They get no true day off in January and February.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
Their drave day off is Monday when they have a
physics exam or they have to go to class, or
they have a biology test. Like that's not a true
day off. Getting up and going to eight o'clock class
like my kids do, that's not a true day off.
And so I think by the time you get through
this sixteen game grind, and now they're wanting us to
play eighteen games, it's about enough playing sixteen having to

(18:10):
deal with this for eight weekends.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Now they want us to go to sixteen eighteen.

Speaker 7 (18:16):
By the time you get to March, your kids are fried,
coaches are fried.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
You're just you're really putting, you know.

Speaker 7 (18:24):
And again, we're the only sport we get no spring break,
no Christmas, no Thanksgiving. I know there's sports that go
both semesters, but a lot of those sports get one,
two or all three of those.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
We get none of them.

Speaker 7 (18:39):
And so it's a really tough, tough grind for our kids.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
And my staff.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
And so I'll get off my soapbox.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
You probably knew i'd get on it when you ask
the question. You're that way, but I heard it cause
the heat of league before.

Speaker 7 (18:57):
But that's right, That's exactly how I feel about it.
It's embarrassing to me that that we do that, you know,
to our kids, but it is what it is, and so,
you know, I just don't think it's I don't think
it's right.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
I don't think it's fair to our kids. You know.

Speaker 7 (19:18):
I just don't like it. So it's just my opinion.
But I've seen the room change a little bit. You know,
you're worry about your kids, you're also worried about a staff.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
You know, a lot of these staffs work really hard.

Speaker 9 (19:34):
So do you have to adjust anything you're doing as
far as practice wise to give your players a little
bit more of a breather or is there any like,
you know, logistics adjustments you have to make with the
Thursday Sunday split.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Not really, I mean Monday is you know, I can't.

Speaker 7 (19:55):
They don't get to sleep in, they don't get to
veg out, they don't just get to come into treatment
from a to want and go back home and lay
in the bed and and but other than that, with
my staff, yeah, I usually gave them Sunday off and
I would come in, I might work, or they might
work from home. Now on Mondays, I give them half

(20:16):
a morning to wash clothes, do laundry, pay bills, just
two personal things.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
We meet for a meeting at lunch.

Speaker 7 (20:26):
Bring I pay for lunch and bring lunch in, and
we have a staff meeting, and then we work in
the afternoon.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
They work in the afternoon. I was here.

Speaker 7 (20:33):
Yesterday morning at seven point thirty and dealing with things
that you have to deal with in basketball. But you know,
for them, I want to give them a little time
to kind of regroup and recharge their batteries too. My
group works really hard, so but no other than that,
it's it's what we signed up for, so we got

(20:55):
to do it.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
How's that first start at VIC Shaeffer talking about his team,
talking about Jordan Lee being freshman the week and then
railing on the SEC for that Thursday Sunday scheduling format
that they have and he's not done with that either.
There'll be more coming up next hour. We'll hear more
from VIC with regard to that, but up next inconceivable
on a Wednesday afternoon here on Sports Radio AM thirteen

(21:17):
under the Zone way alongside the producer Cameron Parker. Glad
to have you with us on this Wednesday afternoon. Hope
you're staying warm and drive. It's going to get rainy tomorrow,
but I think we're going to largely stay away from
the frozen stuff and that's good. It might be a
different story for those of you headed north to the
Dallas Forward Metroplex for the Cotton Bowl. The Cotton Bowl

(21:38):
Classic be the first time the Long Orange will have
played in two bowl games in the same season, not
his calendar year, because that's happened a couple of times
where they were in a January first Bowl, and then
we're in a December Bowl the next year. But the
first time they will have played certainly in two New

(21:58):
Year's Six Bowls in the same year, the Peach Bowl
last week, making Texas the only program to have appeared
in and won. By the way, also all six New
year Six bowls Rose Bowl. They won a couple of times,
of course, including the National Championship Orange Bowl. Last time

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Texas played in the Orange Bowl January first, nineteen sixty five,
first time a bowl game was played at night. Alabama
had already been crowned the national champion and Texas it
was January versus sixty five. Arkansas won the Football Writers'
National Title. Alabama had been crowned the national champion already

(22:40):
by the AP and the UPI Coaches Bowl, and Texas
beat them. That was Tommy Nobus with the gold line
standing against Joe Namath. Long Orange won that one, twenty
one to seventeen. They they won the Sugar Bowl and
did that. They'd done that a couple of times. They
also won the Orange Bowl and Tom Landry was the quarterback.

(23:03):
January first, of nineteen forty nine, coming off the forty
eight season and the Long Horns beat Georgia in that one.
They won the Sugar Bowl a couple of times as well,
and the Cotton Bowl. They won more than any of
the other New Year's Six bowls. Oddly enough, this is
the first time Texas will have played in the Cotton
Bowl in twenty one twenty two years. January first, two

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thousand and three the last time the long Horns played
in the Cotton Bowl. The quarterback was Chris Simms and
he was finishing up his collegiate career. Roy Williams had
a big day. Texas beat LSU coach by Nick Saban
beat him thirty five to twenty.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
And I was a ten am.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Kickoff in Dallas in that one, and I said that
was yeah. That was the last time that they played
in it. The time before also a ten am kick
They played a couple of times it in ninety eight,
January ninety nine and the Y two K Cotton Bowl.
Ki William's final game at the end of the nineteen

(24:02):
ninety eight season. They beat Mississippi State thirty eight to eleven.
January first of ninety nine and January first of two thousand,
the Y two K Copon Bowls, when they lost to
Arkansas twenty seven to six. That was a game where
major appoy had the torn acl happened in that contest.
So those teams, those three Cotton Bowl winning teams were
coached by Mac Brown, and it was good to see

(24:23):
coach Brown last night. He and Sally moving back to
the Austin area. Mack was at the game last night.
Came by and said highly had a great visit and
is ready for he said, for the next chapter in
his life out of that after his time in his
second stint at North Carolina. Speaking of the head football
coach at the University of Texas, announced today Steve Sarkishan

(24:49):
is a finalist for the Bear Bryant Coach of the
Year Award. The American Heart Association had made that announcement
to day. It's a second straight season that sark has
been a selected as a finals for the award. So
Steve sarkeisha of finalists for that award. Here are the
other finalists, Shane Beemer of South Carolina, Kurtzignetti of Indiana,
Spencer Daniels in a Boise State, Kenny Dillingham of Arizona State,

(25:12):
Marcus Freeman, and Notre Dame Rhett Lashley. Of SMU and
Jeff Munkin of Army. So those are the other finalists
for that award. So we'll see how that ultimately turns out. Okay,
where was I going with the what I said at
the end of the last hour about football notes and coaches.

(25:36):
That's sort of thing you said, I have no idea
where you're going. You should have known where I was
going with this. I was interested in your take, Cameron
on the fact that the Cowboys said no, you don't
to the Chicago Bears who asked for permission to interview
Mike McCarthy and they said no. So apparently after twenty

(26:00):
four hours of deliberation, the Cowboys denied the Bears a request.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
According to Adam Schefter of ESPN.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
So who's the better man, because it's it's not the
O the better man, right, Jerry Jones, Right.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
I'm asking you.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
You know, well, first off, I don't know why the
Bears would want to interview Mike McCarthy. And then if
the Cowboys are gonna keep McCarthy, why would they let
him interview with them their team? So this tells me
that mich McCarthy's coming back.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I thought you might say that.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
And it also confirms that I will not be back
twenty twenty five. You will continue your bride.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
We've discussed this at length. Some would say at nauseam
this year about your steadfast refusal to watch them, even
though you still kind of somewhat claim them as your
favorite team. You know you can move on and pick
another team if you want.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
No, no, you can.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Andy way did it now? He's got his girlfriend's influence something.
You know what team they pick now is their favorite
team to follow and cheer and root for the NFL
Frans huh, Lions. It's not the Lions. They had some
parameters involved. First of all, it couldn't be any team
that either of them had as their favorite team in
the past. She's from Wisconsin, so she was kind of

(27:12):
a Packer fan, but could not would not be able
to bring herself to root for any of the other
teams in the NFC norths, so that eliminates the Vikings, Bears,
and Lions. They also decided they would not adopt the
favorite team of anyone close to them relatism family, so
no Rams and a couple other teams as well. So

(27:36):
what did they ultimately wind up picking. They wanted to
pick up a team that they thought had some upward mobility,
a chance to at least be a playoff team in
coming years.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Which narrows the field even more so.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
And then they kind of decided they didn't want to
root for a cold weather team because she had been
around that. So after the dust settled to smoke clear
the team they selected that they're going to start rooting
for the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yikes.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, I was like, really, okay.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Sam, Miami Dolphins, who may be having to let go
of Tyreek Hill?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, yeah, because he's a cancer in the locker room.
Would would that be part of the reason why?

Speaker 1 (28:17):
You know?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
So, I don't know. They said they picked that.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I told him, I said, you know, you've already torn
the scab off there, you ripped the band aid off.
You know that means you can just change teams every
year if you want. It doesn't even really matter anymore.
You can just adopt a team every year and root
for them every year if you want.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
So you could do the same Cam. I'm just reading
for good football. You know, I'm excited for the NFL playoffs.
You know, I'm cool with any team winning, except for
the Eagles and Commanders. But at the same time, you
know it's like, actually, good for you, dan Quinn. You
got out of Dallas and you proved yourself right. But
the FC, I love every I love every storyline in

(28:59):
the AFE. I love the Lions storyline. I like Sean McVay,
I love I love the Rams, I love I love
Matthew Stafford Texas guy. And there's there's some great storylines
in these playoffs. You know, the Chiefs going for the
three p ken Lamar Jackson, who might win his second
m VP.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Can he finally get over the hump the Chiefs?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Can you bring yourself the root for Pittsburgh?

Speaker 4 (29:22):
That's tough. I mean they're not gonna win though, which
is which is? You know you think they'll They'll lose
to the rate. Yeah, I think Mike Tomlin he gets
the ten wins, he gets the playoff berth, and he's
all right, we're good, We're done. I mean, Russell Wilson
and Justin Fields are not going to win you a
playoff game, even the Chargers. What Chargers and Broncos. What
Sean Payton has done in his second year with bo
Nix as a rookie quarterback and that incredible defense that

(29:43):
has a lot of former Texas Longhorns playing some big roles,
Brandon Jones, PJ. Locke to name a few. And in
the Chargers, you know, like Harball, who's got it better
than us?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Nobody? Nobody like People don't don't like the Harball stick.
I like it.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
I think he's a hell of a football coach. You
got Cam Dicker as the kicker. That's a fun you know,
with some new playoff teams, it's fun to see.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
I like Herbert LA team.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, LA team.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Actually, as history teaches us, they actually started in Los
Angeles in nineteen sixty the AFL reached the AFL championship game,
lost to the Oilers, and then and then they moved
to San Diego because they could be with the Rams.
Well now they've backed obviously, so yeah, they're they're a
playoff team.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
What about the Texans?

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Could you be a Texans fan?

Speaker 4 (30:28):
I just the way their their offense is and how
banged up they are. I just don't see them making
a run.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
But yeah, or can you or can you not bring
yourself through for any team from the city of Houston.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, I'm okay with the Texans. Okay, I'm okay with
the Texans. That's fine. I just don't think they have
a chance. Sorry, Texans fans.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
I think I think the Chargers have a good chance
to beat them. Having said that, that is almost like
a fifty to fifty game to me, mainly because it's
in Houston.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
If LA can establish the run and get the ground
game going in Stroud's a little bit shaky interception here
or there, I think the Chargers can steal that m H.
And like again, I don't think Houston has a great
home field advantage, right, neither did the Chargers. So I
mean again, maybe it's just kind of exed it out
because I don't think the Chargers have fans that will travel.
But I don't expect, you know, NRG to be rocking

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on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
The Cameron's picks and I didn't bring him in with
me today. But you have the Jets in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
Think of the Jets, And I went off the notion
let's see because in the last I think last three years,
at least seven teams from last year's playoffs did not
make it the following year. This year, I think only
four teams. Only four teams that were in last year's
playoffs that make it this year. So it was a
little bit of a down. You had the forty nine
ers in the playoffs, but of course they had that

(31:50):
year from hell. Had the Bengals in the playoffs. They
struggled the Jets pick. Yeah, that was a dumb thick.
I've had too much invested in Aaron Rodgers and in
big shot Bob sala as a head coach. But I
you know, I think uh. I think I had the
had the Rams in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
He had them in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
You did had the Rams. I did not have Minnesota.
I did up Green Bay, I did at Philadelphia. I
did not pick the Cowboys. I told everybody that you
did not. But I think you picked somebody like the
Saints Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I think Atlanta, well, they went down to the last week,
like I had the Dolphins in. They went down to
the last week to get in to the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
And and then you had I think we both had
Kansas City, yeah, uh in in in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I think my super Bowl pick was Chiefs Lions.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
I think we both did. I think we both did
and picked the Chiefs to win.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Are you gonna would you change your pick if you
could tell what we're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
What we're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
First segment next hour is we're gonna We're gonna go
ahead and uh pick our our our NFL playoff teams
because by the time we reconvene.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
It be tough to do.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I will check in tomorrow obviously from the Dallas Forward area,
but we're gonna, we're gonna make our picks. Coming up
all right, up next more from Vic Shaffer, Texas women's
basketball head coach.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
When we continue on AM thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Let's hear some more from Texas women's basketball coach Vic
shape You heard him last hour when he got on
his soapbox, because I think Danny Davis and the Austin
American stations put him up on the soapbox and let
him rant and rail about the SEC scheduling women's games
on Thursdays and Sundays Thursday's. Vic doesn't have a problem

(33:33):
with it's Sundays he is the problem with for any
number of reasons, mainly not having a day off, but
also he said some of his players and expressing concerns
about you know, they can't go to church on Sunday,
you know, unless it was real early for a home
game that couldn't do it on the road. There was
those kinds of things, and that all of that rolls
into some of the concern He had some more thoughts

(33:53):
on that and some other items as well.

Speaker 10 (33:56):
Yeah, coach, I want to go back to the Sunday
thing because I'm kind of interested in that. And you know,
watching that national broadcast we all played Oklahoma, one of
Rory's goals for the resolutions was to read the whole Bible.
And so do you kind of feel like you have
more of a spiritual bearing on Sundays as a head
coach since no one's really going to church?

Speaker 1 (34:16):
And how has that? Have you seen kind of religion
played a factor in the locker room? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (34:21):
So typically, and I didn't do it this past sy,
but typically I read them my Bible study for that
day at pregame, and I try to just keep it,
you know, as short as I can, but I go through.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
I have the coach's.

Speaker 7 (34:44):
Bible, and you know, I'll read that day's you know,
devotional and to them and just to just to give
them five minutes worth, you know, ten minutes worth, you know,
I listened to my preacher while I'm running on that

(35:05):
day before the game.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
But again that's not the same as being in.

Speaker 7 (35:09):
The house of the Lord, and so I try to,
you know, expose them to it. I do think I
have a lot of great kids that you know, grew
up in that grew up in the church or do
believe in God. And you know, it's whether they would
go or not. They're definitely not going in this setup.

Speaker 11 (35:34):
Yeah, well, why are you so so shy about this?
I don't know why you don't speak out a little
bit more seriously, if you pulled all the coaches, would
they back to you and try to avoid Sundays?

Speaker 7 (35:49):
Well, you know, Kurk, one thing that even here at Texas,
some of our best crowds you know that we're going
to have during the year are playing on Sundays, and
so you know, that's what probably administrations want you to do,

(36:10):
you know, for us, if we want to play in
front of some not But I think we play in
front of good crowds on Saturday too. And I think
if you probably ask the people work in the game,
would you rather work two games on Saturday or one
on Sunday? They probably go, Hey, let's go to on Saturday,
so they have Sunday off too. But you know, I

(36:32):
think we'd have some coaches that are both ways, you know.
I know, I know certain coaches are going to go, no,
I want to play on Sunday, you know. And then
there's there's some coaches like me and some others that
are like, man, it's a grind. And you know, when
you're talking about kids and quality of life for them,

(36:56):
the student athlete, what's best for them health wise? You know,
I don't think there's any question having a true day
off versus getting up and going to eight o'clock class
and walking around campus for half a day or taking
a test that day. That's hardly a day off mentally.
And so even though you might study on Sunday, you're

(37:19):
doing it on your you know, that might be a
great time to really catch up academically, you know, but
you're not going to do that because you're tied up
with shoot around eight thirty, pre game ten, play at two.
If you're at home, you get out of the locker
room at five o'clock. If you're on the road, you're
not getting home till eight nine o'clock. So it's just

(37:43):
you know, it's even in the Big twelve. We might
have played on Sunday, but that was National TV games.
That would be a game ESPN said, hey, we want
y'all on TV. You know, y'all got to play on Sunday.
But if you weren't on National TV, they don't have
any network. So every other game was on Saturday. And

(38:04):
you know, I've even proposed that, look, if we're not
on National TV on Sunday, let us play on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
But anyway, nothing about that.

Speaker 11 (38:16):
On another subject, do you got any thoughts from Jay
Hartzell leaving to go to SMU and are you throwing
your name your hat in the ring?

Speaker 7 (38:24):
Jay Hartzell's leaving? When did that happen this morning while
I was in practice? Obviously I need to check and
see if he called me to ask me in my opinion?

Speaker 1 (38:38):
God, no mighty, nothing went to voicemail.

Speaker 7 (38:45):
But I will tell you all something. I've worked for
some really good presidents. He's the best man like I
love that guy. That's I'm I'm I did not know
that that happened. I'm certainly happy for him because I
think he is a great man, and I think he
is he's the best they got. They hit a home

(39:08):
run at SMU. That's what they did. So I'm sure
we'll get somebody good. But man, what a home run
for SMU. Dang it.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Why do you like him so much?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Number One, He's accessible.

Speaker 7 (39:29):
Anytime I needed him to help me with a recruit
and their family.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Man, he's right there. He's all in.

Speaker 7 (39:37):
He sits at my games at half court, he's there
a lot. But he has what I call a presence too.
Like I think he's really smart and you need to
be obviously in that role.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
But he's not one of these Ivory tower guys like.

Speaker 7 (39:59):
He he's he's like me and you like, he's just
a he's really he's a humble guy. I think I
think he's you know, I just I I think he's
he's a good guy.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
He's a good man, and.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
He's got you know, he's got the IT factor to me,
and he's just always been super super good to me.
We've had a great relationship and you know, and I
hate to see him go.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Well.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
I mean, we've covered all the non basketball topics I
wanted to ask about, But big, what did you think
of Amo the other night?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
And do you want you want to see more of that. Yeah,
I thought she was really good the other night's.

Speaker 7 (40:49):
You know, when she's healthy and feeling good, she can
be a pretty impactful player. We had the player at
five because Taylor wasn't available, and you know, she helped
us there as well, So you know, getting that from
her a double double in an SEC games really really
beneficial for us. And you know it was good to see.

(41:12):
I was glad to have her, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
And Taylor is Taylor cleared for d born eight or
as of today.

Speaker 12 (41:21):
Okay, coach, I'm also curious about Amo. We've seen what
she could do on the court, especially when she's healthy.
What is her impact her role on the team this year,
particularly off the court, but you know, also on it.

Speaker 7 (41:35):
Well, I mean I I just think the kid has
struggled so much with her health and and with with
her knees, both of them, that it's just been really
hard for her to to, you know, be as effective
and be as impactful as she can be. Amo does
have a voice, She talks a lot and communicates with
our players quite a bit, so I think you know that.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Hasn't him undered her ability to do that.

Speaker 7 (42:02):
But you know, she's impacted some big games for US
this year, but she's also been hindered quite a bit more.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
And so.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
I need her healthy. I mean, that's the only way
I know how to say it. It's we got to
get her healthy and keep her healthy. We can keep
her healthy the next two and a half three months.
You know, we're a little bit different team.

Speaker 8 (42:24):
I think you told us right at the start of
the conference season that you explain to the team that
this great pressure defense might not always work against.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
You know, SEC competition.

Speaker 8 (42:36):
But you've forced fifty two turnovers in two games.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
What do you attribute that to?

Speaker 7 (42:41):
Well, I do think, you know, I think we've been effective,
you know, especially with Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
I think we did a nice job.

Speaker 7 (42:49):
We gave up a couple of backdoors, but other than that,
I mean we forced twenty seven turnovers on the road.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 7 (42:57):
We had to offset the twenty one offensive boards gave
up again. But I thought Arkansas did a good job
against US, and and and so we constant consequently worked
really hard today on some things that we've got to
get better at, you know, on the ball. So you know,
it's a work in progress. I think you've got to
play personnel sometimes you know better than than uh than

(43:21):
than trying to impose your will. There's certain spots on
the floor that you have to uh impose your will,
and then there's certain spots on the floor you've got
to be careful and just try to do something different.
And so I think for us, that's my job as
a coach. I got to make sure our kids understand
that and that we go through it and they have
a real good feel for how we want to defend

(43:44):
things and defend sets and knowing when somebody's trying to
run their pretty offense and when they're not, because that's
two different, completely different things, and it all comes down
to competitive spirit, y'all. Toughness, you know, that's that's really
what defense comes down too.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
We're gonna hear more from Vick Shaffer coming up next hour,
and he's got some other things to rant about as well,
so we'll do that. But we've got some other topics
we've got to coming up next here. On AM thirteen
under the Zone, I mentioned that tomorrow I'll be in
Arlington for the final Head Coaches Press Conference.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
It takes place around twelve thirty to moor afternoon.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I mentioned that and that's when they get the two
head coaches together, sitting separated only by the actual bowl
trophy itself. It's as it is as standard as the
old Classic Coaches show. We have the play by play
guy as the host and the head coach, and you

(44:45):
have a potted plant and a football helmet on an
end table between him or a coffee table. Yeah, it's
been around as long as Coaches shows have been around.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Same store.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
With these Bowl press conferences, they have the photo o
op because both the local TVs and the national TVs
and then the still photographers for the newspapers and wire
services and want to get the picture of the them
shaking hands and standing there with the with the bold
trophy and the and they do that. Then they sit
down and they ask questions or answered. They are asked

(45:16):
questions and they answered. So tomorrow is the one with
Steve Sarkesian for Texas and Ryan Day for Ohio State.
Today was the final press conference previewing the Orange Bowl,
which is tomorrow night between Penn State and Notre Dame.
She had James Franklin, the head coach of Penn State,
and Marcus Freeman, the head coach at Notre Dame is

(45:37):
anything meaningful?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Well get this.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
James Franklin was asked about the opportunity that was there
for Penn State in the college Football Playoff, and he
said that the showdown against Notre Dame is about quote
representing our schools and our conferences. He then it said
Franklin then caught himself realizing Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman
was sitting just to his right. He goes or our conference,
excuse me, our conference. He then went on and he

(46:10):
said he thinks a larger college football playoff ultimately requires
more uniformity around college football, including every team to be
a part of a conference and playing the same number
of league games. Of course, No Dame is an independent.
They're one of three remaining at PS independents. They see
their status as central to their school's identity, and they

(46:32):
resisted chances join the Big Ten in other conferences. Of course,
they compete in the ACC for most of their other
major sports, and they have a scheduling agreement with the
AEC and football.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
But that's it.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
So Franklin the quote, He said, it should be a
consistent across college football. This is no knock at coach Freeman.
Other Dame. But I think everybody should be in a conference.
I think everybody should play in a conference championship game,
or nobody should play a conference championship game. I think
everybody should play the same number of conference games, so,

(47:04):
Franklin said. He remember he had coached at Vanderbilt. He
praised the SEC for remaining at eight league games, which
is what the league's coaches wanted. The SEC IS repeatedly
considered going to nine during Franklin's time of the Big Ten.
His quote was, I was not a math major at
Each Stroudsburg, but just the numbers are going to make

(47:25):
things more challenging if you're playing one more conference game,
so he said. He also highlighted other areas of the
sport that could be made more uniform, including starting the
season a week earlier to ease the strain of playing
more games with an expanded playoff.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
He reiterated his desire.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
To appoint a college football commissioner unaffiliated with a schooler conference,
and once again mentioned longtime coaching. Current ESPN analyst Nick
Saban is an option, along with former Washington and Boise
State coach Chris Peterson, who's now a college football analyst
for Fox and Dave Clawson, who recently stepped down a
Wake Forest's head coach. Quote, we need somebody that is

(48:03):
looking at it from a big picture perspective. Now, Freeman
countered by saying Notre Dame prides itself on it's independence.
He said the team uses the weekend of conference championships, which,
when they're guaranteed not to be playing, is another open
week for recovering other priorities. He also know that he
doesn't have a strong opinion on whether college football needs

(48:24):
more uniformity. Quote, I'm a guy that just thinks, tell
us what we're doing, and let's go and you move forward.
I love where we're at right now.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Pete Mvaqua, that's their athletic director, and our Notre Dame
administration will continue to make decisions that are best for
our program. So anyway, there's some differing opinions on that
one from a guy not only in a power for conference,
but basically a Power two coming from the Big Ten,
and one guy who continues to operate his school as

(48:53):
an independent and doing quite well, thank you. So there
it is Penn State and Notre Dame and tomorrow night
good football games. Notre Dame is what a slight favorite
in that like three points, maybe maybe even less than that,
might even be like one and a half, one and
a half. It could be that good tomorrow night down

(49:14):
in Florida.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Yeah, I think with Abdul Carter's status up in the air,
I mean Franklin's at the day that when he first
he says he needs to play, and then he said,
well there'll be a game time decision. They need him
to play to win this game.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
The way he impacts the game defensively, in the way
that he can kind of handle Roley Leonard, because I'll
do Carter it'll be a tough tash with his Penn
State team.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
All right, we'll be back to a wrap up hour
number two here on sports Radio AM thirteen Under the Zone,
third and final hour of the program here on Sports
Radio AM thirteen one hundred. Let me check this right now,
at exactly four o'clock, the temperature in the Greater Austin
area is a robust forty four degrees.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
And that's the high right now. We've hit the high point.
It's going to fall off a little during the next hour,
and then tonight overnight it's going to get eh, mid thirties.
It's still not going to be freezing. It'll be It'll
be in the mid thirties. So anyway, it's it's certainly

(50:17):
not nearly as but it could be raining tomorrow. The fact,
there's a real good chance there will be some rain
tomorrow on the earth. It's just like cold drizzle.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Here in the Greater Austin, Central Texas area and the
Dallas Forworth Metroplex where the Goodyear Cotton Bowl will be
contested on Friday night, things could get a whole lot
more inclement over the next twenty four to forty eight hours.
For example, in Fort Worth right now, it's partly sunny,
they're forty one, but they could see a mixed tomorrow

(50:48):
of snow, sleet and freezing rain. And then Friday it
looks like snow for sure, about an eighty percent chance
of snow. So that could all happen up in the
metroplex as well. Meanwhile, Weren't basketball team will get ready
for number one Tennessee coming in to Moody Center on Saturday.
I say number one. They will fall for number one
because they lost by thirty to Florida last night. Stunning

(51:10):
lost their first loss of the season. But it's one
of those nights, and all teams have them where you
have nights where you just can't or don't shoot the
basketball very well. Rick Barnes, of course, four sixteen years
the coach of the Texas Long Orange, used to say
good shooting can make up for a multitude of sins,

(51:33):
and they had a multitude of sins last night, and
they didn't have the good shooting, and the Long Orange
didn't have a good shooting for a lot of the game.
They got better down the stretch when they made their
big push. Texas was down twenty one to second rank
to Auburn. Last night, they were down sixty one to
forty with twelve minutes plus remaining in the game and

(51:55):
went on a big run I think outscored the thirty
eight twenty two and manage of forty one twenty two,
managed to pull them within three twice in.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
The final minute.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Couldn't finish it, however, despite a career high thirty four
points from Arthur Coloma and then also Jordan Pope was
seventeen second half points. So those were big moments there,
and they got some stops and played better and hit
some shots, but could not overcome Auburn's hugely and they
wind up losing. After the game, Eddie Orn and I
visited about these factors with long Worn's head coach Rodney Terry.

(52:30):
I say this up from because I know how you
feel about this. We live in the world of no
moral victories.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Having said all that, the fight, the resiliency, the toughness
your team showed from down twenty one to cut it
to three twice in the final minute of the ballgame.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
You had to be pleased with that.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
No, you know' ankle your same thing you just said.
I said that to our team with Texas.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
We don't we don't.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
We don't celebrate a more satisfied with more victories. We
expect to win every game that we line up and play,
lace them up to play. That's a really good team
over there, you know, a really good team. They're finding
four caliber team. I thought that guy showed a lot
of fight. I thought they kept competing. I think again,
you know, early in our journey here in comforts play,
our guys are learning what it takes to play for

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forty minutes and when it's gonna take to win it.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
In this conference, what was the biggest thing you noticed
in the final twelve minutes that turned it to where
your team.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Gave itself a chance by the fight they showed.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
Well, we said we had to try to sit down
and get some stops, and if we were able to
put some stops together, we could come down and find
a way to score and get what we needed to
get done on the other end, you know, And it's
a long game and that's what our guys are finding
out again in the two games we played.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
You know, both of the.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
Games have come down to possession games. You know, they
extended the game over there and then we got more
points there towards the end. But really, you know, seven
minutes to go, it's anybody's game, you know, just learning
to work the game. You know, we have four new starters.
Both of those teams have older players that know how
to close our game and win games. That's that's the
growth curster for our team. But I loved that effort.

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I loved are still want to and trying to get
it and we're gonna find a way.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah, and two of those guys that have had that
that want to.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Jordan gives you seventeen and the second half an heart,
What a ball game, a career game for him with
the thirty four.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
Yeah, we did a much better job of taking care
of the basketball in the second half. We had nine
turner was in a half. That was one thing that
was really hurting us. And you know, the points in
the paint early, they made some threes early. They're a
really good shooting team, probably the best shooting team we
played all year. And again that's a team that could
go to the Final four. And I think we have
a really good team. I think we're just going through
a little growth curve in terms of understanding what it

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takes to win this league.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
For forty minutes, run a lot of positive takeout of
this game. But you got a tough one coming in here, Saraday,
not a lot of time to get ready. But another
team that's coming here. But I think it's you know,
these guys will build off of this one.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
Again, a number one team in the country coming in
Coach Barnes. You know, his team's always physical. You know
they play with the tough defensive mindset, you know. But
we'll regroup, we'll be ready to play and ready to
compete at high level.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yeah, I think I have two mad basketball teams here.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
On Saturday, right, Yeah, I mean, I mean it's not
easy to win in this league, and then this league's hard.
Now it's nothing. We got the best league in the country.
And you know, again every night, you got to come
play at a high level. You don't have to play perfect,
but you've got to play at a high level, and
you've got to play with a lot of urgency and
you got to be extremely tough and competitive to get
it done.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yeah, you think about that in this league on a
regular basis. Not only did Tennessee lose to Florida at
Florida and lost by thirty Kentucky, which had beaten Florida
of the weekend, and Lexington went down to Georgia and
lost by thirteen to Georgia. Now maybe, well, I started saying,

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maybe the most impressive win. Listen, if you beat the
number one team in the country about thirty points, it's
probably the most impressive win.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Of the night.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
And incidentally, that was the third largest blowout loss for
a number one ranked team ever. There was one Saint
John's lost to Kentucky, I believe in nineteen fifty three,
I think it was or fifty two, lost by like

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forty one points. And in nineteen sixty eight, the Houston
Cougars were number one in the country and lost the
number two UCLA by thirty two points.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
The lost one hundred and one to sixty nine.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
The circumstances around that that was the year they had
the Game of the Century game between what was then
number one UCLA and number two Houston. They played it
in the Astrodome and that was the man who became
known as Kareem abdul ja Bardi people. Leu al Cinder
back then was the center for UCLA and Elvin Hayes

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was the center for Houston, and they matched up in
the Astrodome and it was on national TV, and it
was a big moment for college basketball. And if you
ever if if you've ever seen pictures of this, this
was in the days when they didn't know how to
properly configure domed stadiums for basketball. For example, you know,

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it'll be in the Alamo Dome this year. And of
course they do it different the way they raised the
level of states, but they bring in the temporary stands
on the sides to make it much more like a
basketball arena.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Not in nineteen sixty eight, in the Astrodome.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
They just laid a basketball floor out right in the
middle of the dome and there was a press row,
I think, on either side, and that was it. Anybody
that had a seat to that game sat in the
regular like football or baseball seats. So it's like this
just laid out in the middle of the floor and
everybody was way back from the floor and.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
No big jumbo trot either. Yeah to see it.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
And Houston won that game by two of her UCLA
seventy one sixty nine. And also, to be fair and accurate,
Kareem Abdul Jabbar, back then known as Leewausin, had had
a scratch cornea and still wasn't quite one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
But Houston won that game.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
But they met up again in the final four in
the semifinals and UCLA destroyed them in the rematch, beat
them one hundred and one and sixty nine, and then
the UCLA beating North Carolina to win the national championship
that year. They beat them by twenty three in the final.
That's often been called the greatest of all those. John
Wooden coached UCLA seven consecutive national championship teams. The best

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of them all Loueuse Centers junior year nineteen sixty eight,
with what else they had their unbeaten and a national
champion in nineteen sixty eight. So any time a number
one team loses by a large margin, it's noteworthy, and
Tennessee's thirty point loss at Florida last night was noteworthy,

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and that it was the third largest blowout loss by
a number one team in college basketball history since the
rankings system went into play. However, the Georgia win at
home over Kentucky was impressive and maybe just as impressive
certainly as the Georgia game, and maybe right up there,

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not quite to the level of Florida's thirty point win
over Tennessee. But worthy of being mentioned is Mississippi State
winning on the road at Vanderbilt, which had gotten off
to a great start, but Mississippi State went in there
and got out.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
To a huge lead and then eased in for the win.
So Chris Chian's team is I think fourteen and one now,
so they're either fourteen to one or fifteen to one,
so they're off to a great start. Texas does play
Mississippi State one time. It's the next to last game

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fourteen and one.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
They played them next to last game of the regular
season in Starkville at the Hump Humphrey Coliseum, So something
to take note of.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
A quick note on the Auburn game last night, Craig, Yeah,
Texas actually moved the four spots in the kimpon rankings
after last night. Yeah, it reminded me a lot of
last year's lost to Houston at home at Moody yea
top ten, top five Houston team came in on Big
Monday Texas. Texas played them really well. Now I think
they actually led in that game against Houston, whereas against

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Auburn mostly trailing but ended up losing by you know,
less than single digits. So as artist said, and this
team is learning what it's going to take the you know,
contend and SEC play. And for Texas fans who are
just you know, reacting off of these first two games
in conference play, hey, the front of this schedule is insane.
I mean, the first five games Texas plays a SEC
play against top twenty five teams. Auburn, on the other hand,

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only plays only has to play one top twenty five
Teamsissippi State. So you know, wait until March before you
decide what to make of this. Texas Certainly they're still
they're still you know, they're still figuring out their offense
in the chemistry, right and no Kenda Weaver yesterday, and
the second half of the SEC schedule was a little
bit easier than the first half. So so is this

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team can grow together and stick through it against this
tough opening slate. I think it's going to help them
the second half of conference play season, you know, maybe
make a run, get back off the bubble, do some
damage in the SEC tournament and who knows what can happen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
And as is the case with football, as was the
case with football, there will be some cannibalizing. Yes, that
happens in the SEC. Teams will be knocking one another
off left and right, so we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
And in this unique.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Round robin schedule, so to speak, it kind of reminds
me of the old Big twelve schedule that Texas used
to play, but that was even more uniform, almost called
scheduling North and scheduling South, even though they were not
in separate divisions, but they would only play the teams
from the geographics scheduling North like one time one time
against Kansas, one time against k State, one time against Nebraska,

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one time against Missouri, one time against Colorado they would play,
and one time against Iowa State when those teams were
all in the league.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
I mean Joel Nari's latest bracketology. Oklahoma seven seed, Ole
miss An eight seed. Those are two teams that can
be Sweet sixteen bound, easily lead eight bound. It's just
you mentioned the cannibal the cannibalization of this conference. There's
going to be some messy seed teams that are going
to be a high low seed, but they're going to
I think they're going to be a popular pick to

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go deep because they have that tough resume. They've played
the tougher teams.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
True, and even though the NCAA didn't announce they're not
using the Ken Pom rankings anymore as an evaluative tool,
it's still a good measuring stick to do that as
well as looking at the net rankings. All Right, we
shift from men's basketball to women's basketball. The number five
team in the country, the Texas Longhorns. Tomorrow night host
number eighteen Alabama. The two teams are both fifteen and

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one going into the game. Remember Texas beat Alabama in
the second round of the NCAA Tournament last year Moody Center.
Christy Curry brings another really talented group in the Moody
Center tomorrow night. We'll hear more from Vic Schaffer coming up.
You're on Sports Radio AM thirteen hunder the Zone. All right,
let's talk NFL because we had some good predictions and
we had some stinkers at the start of the year

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about teams we thought would get into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
You had the Jets getting in. Why don't we focus
on the positives the team.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think of I
had the Cowboys in, so.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
You know, I can tell you who I had. I had.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
I had the out of the AFC yep East, I
had Bills yep.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
In Jets YEP.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
In the AFC North, I believe I had the Bengals
and Ravens. That's four teams in the NFC South AFC South,
excuse me I had. I think I only had the
Texans five. And then in the AFC West, I had
the Chiefs, and I think I said the Chargers. That's right, Okay,

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that's right, So I go was wrong in the Jets.
And then in the AFC I had the doll fits
in who didn't get in, yeah, which I think is
a good pick and who knew to it would get
his thirtieth concussion.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
This year, right right, And I had the Bengals in
as well with that h's in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
The final week and in the final week for the
Bengals and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
The Dolphins, that's right, all right, So NFC I had
the Cowboys in, which.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
Was not a not a good pick, I think NFC
I was. I was a little bit more off on
were you. Well see you have the Saint and Eagles
from the east, which is correct. Yeah, in the in
the North, I think I just had Packers line, so
that's three teams. In the South, I think I had
the Falcons four, and then I had the forty nine

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Ers and Rams in the Rams. Yeah, who was my
I think I either picked the Bears at the Seahawks
as my second one, you know what, it was the Bears.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Yeah, I was high on.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
I was high on the Bears, which, like the Jets,
huge mistake, you know, look back on it, you know,
I regret my actions.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
But we move on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Okay, all right, let's talk about the first of all
the wildcard matchups on Saturday. This might be the best
game of the weekend. Texans Chargers, Really you think so?
I think so.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
I think this has a good chance to be good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
I will go with the Texans narrowly, but I won't
be surprised one bit if the Charger. It's a five
to four matchup, and I think it plays like a
five to four matchup.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
I think the Chargers win this. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
I like I like Harball, I like Herbert, like the
rushing attack, Like their receivers that more healthy than the
Texans right now. Okay, Houston's kind of limping into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Baltimore and Pittsburgh. I like the Ravens.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Yeah, I think Baltimore gets refined. I think Tucker has
a big game, you know, because he had a couple
of big misses in the first meeting, which Pittsburgh won.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
I think they bounce back. All right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Sunday, Denver Buffalo. There are people who are giving the
Broncos a chance in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Good defense, but I think Josh Allen's playing like Superman,
and I think it'll be too much for Denver to handle.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
I agree, I like Buffalo, Green Bay at Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Any chance for the Packers to do it as a
seven seed second year in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
Christian Watson done for the year, Jordan Love, he keeps
getting injured. Philadelphia is I think, played like the best
team in football over the past month, sneakily.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
I like Philadelphia. They rested Saquon Barkley. Yeah, it's gonna
be tough to beat the Eagle, especially in Philly. Washington
at Tampa Bay this also could be one of the
better games of the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
I think a lot of people are leading Tampa Bay.
They're favored by three.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
I like Washington just because I think jayde and Daniels
can give you a little bit more than Baker Mayfield.
And I think the Bucks had a little bit of
an easier schedule and also kind of limped into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
But we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
I'm gonna do the same thing I'm gonna go with.
I'm gonna go to Washington and then Monday night Vikings
at Rams.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
I like your Rams, Greg, I like your Rams. I
think they're gonna be able to get to Sam Darnold,
and I think we're gonna see a big game from
Karen Williams, from Cooper Cup and from your from your Rams.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
All right, Well, did the Rams beat him on that
Thursday night game? There?

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
They did?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
All right, I'll go I don't feel real good about it,
but I'm trying to figure it out. If it's as
much just being bummed about McVeigh resting the starters and
dropping that game to the Seahawks. It would have given
them the three seed, and it would have felt a
lot better about them playing Washington in Minnesota because then,
even if they win, the prize for that is a

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ticket to Detroit, whereas had they won, of course going
to Philly, what could be a great Yeah, it might
be in the weather. The Rims barely got past the
Jets and the cold weather, so you know, yeah, you
may be right. And they did play the Lions tough
on Opening night, lost that game, so we'll see. And
the Lions number one seed for the first time ever.

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All right, coming up, we're do you have one yet?
Oh well, I'm gonna stick with my original pick of
Kansas City in Detroit, and I'm gonna pick the Detroit
Lions to win their first Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
I'm gonna flip it. I'm gonnay, We're gonna get a
rematch at Kansas City. Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Okay, all right, there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
All right, coming up, we're going to hear more from
Vic Shafer because because we can have plenty to talk about,
he'll talk more about his players and this matchup with Alabama,
which is going to be very, very difficult. Before we're done,
we'll have a little more on the NBA the big
matchup Oklahoma City at Cleveland tonight. Cam's thoughts on that

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big matchup, So we'll have that and a reminder Long
Worn Weekly the recording with Rodney Terry comes we at
six o'clock tonight from Pluckers the West Campus location. Air
tomorrow night at six, but we'll be there to record
it at six o'clock. We'll continue on AM thirteen hundred
The Zone. All right, let's burn right on into Vic Schafer,
who was claiming to be an Elvis fan as well.
We've heard from Vic in the first two hours of

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the program, excerpts from his weekly media availability the Zoom
and Vic you've heard him really be on a roll
on certain topics. So let's go back to the final
portion of this with long Worne's head coach, Vic Schaffer.

Speaker 10 (01:09:00):
Yeah, Coach, I just want to go back to the
inconsistencies with the health at the BIGS position with Taylor
and Amo, like, does that kind of force you to
maybe do that four guard line up a little bit
more or has that come up at all?

Speaker 7 (01:09:12):
You know, the analytics say we're better with the four
guard lineup, Just so everybody knows, I mean, the analytics
are not and day. You know, if I coach by
my eye and buy you know, the way I've done
things a lot in the past, you know, I might

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not play it as you know, I might not play
it as much on some nights, I might play it
way more than I'm playing it now. But the analytics
say we're way better with four guards on the floor,
and we're better in transition, and I do think we'd
probably be better in the half court a lot of
nights defensively. So I think, you know, again, people know

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my team, they know my personnel, and so they're going
to try to do certain things. The first two teams
we've played this year have really tried to attack us
in some different ways and put us in a in
some awkward positions.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
And so we've you know, we've got to be able to.

Speaker 7 (01:10:15):
Adjust and realize that early on and then attack them
in in a way that we can score and uh
and defend.

Speaker 9 (01:10:24):
Big You mentioned postgame about she's off night. I'm kind
of wondering with her kind of struggling a little bit
this season. You know, are you concerned about that? Do
you think she'll just figured it out? She is a
fifth year player. Is that a concern for for you
at this time?

Speaker 7 (01:10:42):
Well, yeah, I mean it's I'm concerned about it. You know,
she's she's uh, you know, it's a kid that works
really hard and and you know she she's got some
some little nagging things going on too, that you know,
she doesn't speak about and doesn't talk much about.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
But I think they're they're affecting her a little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:11:04):
But you know her and Booker, you know those two man,
I'm going to that well every night.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Like those kids.

Speaker 7 (01:11:14):
Those both those kids have been to the Wars and
those are two of the most consistent players I've ever
coached in my life. So I'm going to them a bunch.
You know, Shay brings so much to the table from
a just a role player and knowing her role and
doesn't try to do too much. But you got to

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have players like that because when you have other players
like Rory and book and two five players down there
are shooting seventy something percent and sixty something percent.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
You just got to do your job.

Speaker 7 (01:11:49):
And you know Booker, she enjoys the past as much
as the score. You know, that kid is so unselfish,
almost to a fault. You know, she had a couple
of turnovers the other night where she's she's trying to
make a really really good pass. And because she's that way,
she's just a That's what makes her one of the
best players in the country is her vision, her unselfishness.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
You know, she wants that, she wants that role.

Speaker 7 (01:12:19):
She's not all about I got to have this many points.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
She's about I just want to impact the game. And
she can.

Speaker 7 (01:12:26):
I mean, that's what that's what's so special about the
kid is in and about her not only her mental approach,
you know, but also her her game and their skill set.
She just as we all saw last year when we
played her at point, she she just she can do
it all. And I'm just trying to get her to

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do a little bit more in every avenue and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Help her to realize.

Speaker 7 (01:12:54):
You know, she's shooting forty nine percent on the season,
forty six from three. This time last year, she was
shooting forty two per y'all. So she's way better, way better,
and she's still our leading scorers. She's still somebody I
want to go to, you know, a lot, and you know,
I think we as a team need to, you know,

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I think we can do some things with her that
really can keep people uncomfortable. And so, you know, it's
still January. I still put in a lot of stuff
between now in March, and I think that's the challenge
with this team is how much can they absorb. My
veterans can absorb a lot. It's those three freshmen that

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I worry about.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 12 (01:13:37):
You mentioned the importance of toughness. I'm sure that you
have ways you coach toughness, but also know that you
recruit it, putting you on the spot here. But do
you have a story about being on the recruiting trail
and seeing toughness and just knowing like this is my
type of player based on that moment.

Speaker 7 (01:13:55):
Well, I mean, Justice Carleton is the most physical high
school kid I've ever seen. Like she head hunts your
chest plate like she ain't trying to dodge you, you know,
and at this level, you know, you got to be
a little bit careful because there's people that will take charges.
But that kid don't dodge contact when she has the ball.
She's head hunting you. You know, she's kind of one

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of those full backs that doesn't try to run around you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
She's trying to run through you.

Speaker 7 (01:14:22):
And so but I can't get her to post up sometimes,
and that's with that same mode, if you know what
I mean. I'm trying to get her to really be
an aggressive post up player too, because she's very aggressive
with the ball off the bounce, like she's unbelievably aggressive.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
But really really physical kid.

Speaker 7 (01:14:40):
And of course Jordan Lee was a great charge taker
in high school AAU, you know, which again you got
to be tough and physical to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
And so.

Speaker 7 (01:14:50):
You know, that's something that I noticed when we when
recruiting her. And so those are things that you know,
when you're recruiting kids, you really notice. And again, all
these kids played big minutes in high school and that
takes an amount of toughness too. All these kids were

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kids that other teams were trying to get in foul
trouble because for their respective high school teams, if they
could get them in foul trouble, they'd have a chance
to beat them, and so now they come here, well,
it's a way different level dealing with college coaches and
college players that are trying to get you in foul trouble,
take you out, not let you score. And so it's

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not like in high school when you got five bunch.
You know, five players out there that are five to
five double team and you. This level is way different
when somebody doubles you here or plays trying on two
boxing one. It's a way different diamond in two boxing
one than the you know, the the five little ones
that we're trying.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
To do it.

Speaker 8 (01:15:57):
Yeah, quickly, Beck, I'm sorry, Booker out is out rebounding
everybody but your two centers. Is that what makes you
confident that in the four guard lineup because she's one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Of the four Yeah, no, I think you're absolutely right.

Speaker 7 (01:16:13):
Plus, her athleticism and her size at that position really
really allow her to really be a factor both offensively
and defensively. In my mind, you know, in that lineup,
she potentially would be matched up with a four player,
and a lot of times, you know that four player

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ain't out there on the perimeter like them other three,
so you don't have to chase them around near as
much as you do that one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Two, and three.

Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
So sometimes you like playing that position a little more
because all you got to do is lay on them
in the whole little bit or on the block and
den I am down there versus dealing with pick and
roll and somebody driving on you. So but you know,
I think for her, it's just her skill set that
separates her. You know, they're gonna have to make up

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their mind who they're gonna put on her, and nine
times out of ten it ain't gonna be good and
for them, and it's gonna be really good for her.
So but I think that's what makes the kids so
dynamic and so special.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
We all know she can play point.

Speaker 7 (01:17:16):
She did it last year, and when she got thrown
in the fire, that's not you know, that wasn't her
natural position coming out of high school and coming here.
But I think we did a good job developing her
and she did a great job embracing the challenge of
being our point guard.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
And then she's our point guard.

Speaker 7 (01:17:34):
But she wins the three Player of the Year award
with the WBCA, and so you know, that's the thing
about book. That's why she's gonna be great for fifteen
twenty years down the line. People know that at the
next level, they know she can play one, two, three,
and four, and it just really is what allows her

(01:17:56):
to separate herself when you start looking at you know, again,
even for us, you want players that are multi dimensional,
You want players that can play multiple positions, and she's
certainly that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
And then so there it is the comments from head
coach Fix Shaeffer. Big game tomorrow night, number five Texas,
number eighteen Alabama to loss his total between the two
of them, a rematch of the NCAA second round game of.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
A year ago.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
We'll be back to wrap up today's edition of the
program here on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone
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