Texas Basketball knocks off No. 22 Mizzou, Cowboys' are still clueless, and ESPN's Top 100 College Football Players

Craig Way and Cameron Parker return for Wednesday's show! They discuss the Texas Longhorns' win over No. 22 Missouri last night and play postgame interviews with Arthur Kaluma and Rodney Terry. Plus, they talk NFL coaching moves including whatever the Dallas Cowboys are doing. They also look at ESPN's Top 100 College Football Players of the 2024 season.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here this afternoon, and us, of course includes our producer
Cameron D. Parker. The D on the birth certificate stands
for Dallas, as in the name of his favorite football team,
which still has yet to name a head coach any
more intel on that from you. Cam on what Jerry's
planning to do, He has no idea. He doesn't know

(00:21):
what's going on.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
He interviewed Brian Schottenheimer for a second time for some reason,
who has never been a head coach. I don't think
so things are going great in Dallas. It's gonna be great,
you know. Aaron Glenn's been hired, Robert Saal has been hired,
and Johnson's been hired, Mike Crable's been hired.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Bill Belichick's been hired. It's not good. It's not good.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm extending I think my Cowboys hiatus for probably the
next decade. If they hire Brian Schottenheimer. I'm more than.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Out on the Dallas cowb For those of you who
are unfamiliar with the quote unquote hiatus of which Cam
just spoke, it is his favorite football team, the Dallas Cowboys,
but out of frustration after their playoff loss at home
to the Packers last year. He vowed not to watch
them this season. This just concluded season, and by and

(01:15):
large he held to that. There was there was one
game you did watch the whole game. I forgot which one.
It was not the whole game. I watched the very
end of the Redskins Cowboys game. Commanders, excuse me, whatever,
when you know Turpin had the kickoff return touchdown and
then McLaurin had that last second touchdown and the Cowboys
came back and yeah, scored again or whatever. It was

(01:36):
that crazy finish. I watched that. Yeah, there was another
game after that that you want? No, Okay, all right,
So he he has decided, you know, he wasn't going
to watch them now, unlike most disgruntled, disenchanted, disaffected Cowboy

(01:56):
fans who have moved on and said I'm on to
another team. I'm not rooting for this team ever. Again,
he still claims the Cowboys as his team, but he's
kind of estranged from them emotionally. Is that a proper
way to describe it? Sure? Okay, So in other words,
you do have hope, No, there's no hope. Hope's gone. Okay,

(02:19):
I sort of say there's still hope. You're still hoping
that they figure out something and get it turned.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Unless the whole Jones family perishes, then we're stuck in
this the next couple decades.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, So that then begs the question, why would you
continue to root for them? I'm not rooting for them,
I'm not I'm not, I'm not a fan them. Why
would you not then move on and adopt a new
team as you're baking to do that? That's you grew
up with the team because of your ties to it.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I don't have any ties any other teams, and I'd
rather just be able to enjoy watching the NFL as
a as a fan.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I kind of went down that road with the Rams
through a couple of decades of futility. They were still
my team, but I didn't actively follow them. Even when
I had a NFL Sunday ticket, I didn't. I didn't
watch him as much or whatever because it was frustrating
to watch him. But that still kind of hung onto
and clung the hope even as Georgia Frontier was owning them,

(03:14):
that eventually a new owner might come in and might
turn And that's exactly what happened with the Rams. Now
we know that not to be the case with the Cowboys,
because Jerry will own the team until he perishes, and
then Steven is going to run the team and be
true belief that he's not going to do anything different

(03:34):
than how Jerry.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
It kind of sounds like he's already somewhat running the
team from everything I've read, And if that's the case,
then he's a big part of why the Cowboys are
where they're at right now.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Okay, Okay, So I just wanted to lay that out there.
You know, that's that's where Cameron stood with his team,
because I know I've had several people say, well, Cameron
sounds miserable. I said, well, he's not really miserable per se.
He watches other thing, but he is completely disenchanted with
his team. And they're like, well, why did he switch teams?
But you say, that's not the way to do it.

(04:07):
You can't do that as a sports fan, just gonna
switch teams because your team is bad. Now, my son's
done it twice. My oldest he was he was a
Jaguars fan when he was little, and and he he
reconciled his in his mind when they weren't good that
he became a fan mainly because of the uniform, and
that was by large, as I do remember it, although

(04:29):
he did really like Mark Brunell and Fred Taylor back
in those days. But then he said, you know, I
live in Texas, I should be a Cowboys fan. Uh.
So then he put all of his emotional equity into
the Cowboys, which I warned him not to do, and
he rooted vociferously for them for many years, bought the merch,

(04:53):
went to the uh went to games. He was at
that Green Bay playoff game. And so then finally, I think,
also in conjunction with the young lady that he has
had as his girlfriend for over a year now. She's
from Wisconsin, but she's not necessarily a big Packer fan.
So they decided on their own to adopt the new

(05:13):
NFL team and make it their favorite team. And they,
for whatever reason picked the Miami Dolphins. So because they
think there's some hope on down the road for the
Dolphins or whatever who just missed the playoffs, and they
like Mike McDaniels, the head coach. So yeah, you know,
so they went that. Rob. But you're saying, you can't
emotionally divorce yourself from the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
You can't quit them. No, you know, I don't think so,
I mean quit them. I had no emotional attachment to
the Cowboys this season. I felt no feelings this year
and continue to do that until some Mets drastic changes happen.
And it's just not going to happen currently with the
way Jerry and Steven have been operating this Cowboys team.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
And you say that, you know because in some folks
mind what you just said. They said, well, they're already
dead to him, he might as well move on to
another team. But you're saying you can't invest your rooting interest,
in your emotions in another team because of that, You're
just you're just kind of in purgatory right now as
a fan because the team that you grew up rooting

(06:15):
for and through all of these years in into your
adult life has disappointed and disenfranchised you to the point
where you cannot root for them, but you cannot find
some other flare in your heart to be able to
root for another team. Is that right? Well? I enjoy
watching football.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I enjoyed the football this past weekend, and it's fun
to be able to watch a game without having rooting interest.
I mean, Phil's Ravens with a lot of fun that
came down to the very end. The same thing for
Commanders and Lions. So Ramsey or Ramse Eagles really enjoy that.
Chiefs Texan So you know the Rob lowme with him
watching the football game with the NFL haad on, that's
me and he'll continue to be me the foreseeable future,

(06:56):
and I'm okay with it. It's you know, I'm excited to
see if Mahomes can win three straight. I'm excited to
see maybe if Bill's Mafia and Josh Allen can can
finally get over the hump again.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
But you're rooting for either one to beat the other.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
You know, I think I have a little bit more
rooting interest for the Chiefs probably sixty forty now Eagles
Commanders that that one's tough because they are arrival with
the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Now, I still hate the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I can't stand Nick Siriannie, so Commanders and it's and
I'm kind of on dan Quinn's side, especially because he
was let go by the Cowboys. So that would really
just stick it to Jerry Jones, just really stick with
dan Quinn going to the Super Bowl. Half of the
defense is former Cowboys players, that'd be funny. And of

(07:41):
course Sam caused me. He's a long horn even though
I think he got banged up pretty bad and they're
the Vision a round win.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Hope he's okay.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I thought some prayers with him, but it'll be fun
to see, you know, and you know, Chiefs have I
think they have one long horn on their team. I
think the Bills have anybody and Eagles of course more
Ojabo got his first sack of the season and that
was the final drive.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, uh okay, you know, I
just thought it because they get asked a lot about this.
People ask me about you, but then and some people
feel for you, and then some people are just curious
as to how you can completely cut off your allegiance
to one team without transferring allegiance to another, that you

(08:26):
can just kind of float out there and do it.
But you're saying it's it's really.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Not that diff If your partner is abusing you, yeah,
you know, emotionally, is the best team to just cut
them off?

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, you do, But then they usually go and they
find another partner. Sometimes some they don't.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Maybe you don't, you know, maybe that's just just you know,
be single for life.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay, all right, So there it is that's out there
that they're okay. We've got other things that are gonna
get do. We will talk some more about the NFL playoffs.
We're gonna hear from Arthur Kaluma, the long worn basketball team.
What a big win for Texas last night beating Missouri
twenty second rand Missouri at Moody Center sixty three and
Kluma had a double double in the game. We'll hear

(09:02):
from him this hour. We do have Inconceivable, got a
couple of fast food junk food related items and then
a couple other bizarre stories that could only fall into
the file of Inconceivable. We'll have that. We'll talk more
college basketball of the men's and women's vari who's a
big game tomorrow night for the Texas women at home

(09:23):
against Tennessee. And we'll also hear from Rodney Terry Longhorn
men's coach. That'll be coming up to the four o'clock
hour as well. So we've got a lot on the table.
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things to get to that's coming up here on AM
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us for free on the iHeart Radio app. Last night
at Moody Center. Texas kind of went over Missouri sixty
one to fifty three, and it came at the night
with a long word shot only thirty four percent from

(10:49):
the floor, only twenty percent from three point range. There
were four of twenty. But they did several things very well.
First of all, they defended a Missouri team that came
into the game shooting thirty eight percent as a team
from three point range. That's really impressive if you know
how the math works. If you're if you're shooting forty

(11:12):
percent from three point range, that's the same as fifty
percent from inside the arc, and most teams shoot around
thirty thirty one, thirty two, thirty three. I think the
long Run shoot thirty four percent, although that percent has
probably went down last night since they only had four
out of twenty, but most teams shoot in the low

(11:33):
thirty percent tile off that the better ones can shoot
toward the mid Well, they shoot thirty eight percent as
a team, but they miss some shots early from beyond
the arc, and the long Runes did a good job
depending on the perimeter. Julian Larry did a really good
job working against Caleb Grill, the former Iowa State guard

(11:54):
who camera noticed. You know, look, how old did you say?
Caleb Grill looked to you in the game last He
was a six year senior.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I thought he was my age for a second. I
actually googled. I actually googled his name, and it was like, Okay,
he's got to be twenty seven years old. He's twenty four. Yeah,
but it's funny. One of the director of player recruiting
at Texas, Tristan Lacone's been the staff for a few years,
actually played against him when he was at Iowa State.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
When Tristan when Chris Pierre was the coach and Tristan
was on the team. Yeah, Christan was on the team.
That was three years ago, and he had already been
there for a bit, had Caleb girl. And then he
wound up being dismissed from the team, and then he
came back, and then he winds up transferring. So anyway,

(12:44):
all of that happens, and so the lord Wards had
a good job defending the three. The other thing they
had to do was really dig down and have some
resilience because they went through a stretch in the second half.
I told her their shooting percentage wasn't great and neither
was Missouri. In fact, if you watch the first part
of the game and you'll hear Rodney Terry talk about

(13:04):
that was it two to one at the first time out? Yes,
it was two to one at the first time out.
I think it was six to five. No, it was
five to four at the second because they they changed
the call on what they originally called a goaltending call,
which was a bad call. The ball was still well
on the rise and wasn't in the cylinder and they
called goldtending at first. But they're able to go back

(13:24):
and review that, and they did that during the second
time out ruled that it was indeed not goaltending against Texas,
So it took a basketbak from Missouri. It was five
to four at that point at the under twelve time
out of the first half, and then late in the
first half, long Runs did hit some big shots down

(13:45):
the tragic got some stops and they were up seven
at the half thirty two to twenty five. But Missouri
right out of the gate attacked him the second half,
hit a three, hit some other shots, eventually took the
lead and held the lean most of the second half.
In fact, they had a foot It wasn't a big lead.
Their largest leave was four points, but the Longhorns were
really struggling to make shots. It was forty five forty

(14:07):
one Missouri with eight minutes to go in the game,
and then the Longhorns went on a run. They closed
out the game on a twenty to eight run to
win the contest sixty one to fifty three. Arthur Klume
had a lot to do with it. He had fourteen
points twelve rebounds, his seventh double digit rebounding game of
the season, his fifth double double of the season. He

(14:28):
had a gigantic put back bucket off a miss down
the stretch of the game that widened the Longhorn lead
to five at that point, and was just a big
party and he was a big leader. And that's one
thing that folks had wondered about this Texas team. Who
are the leaders of this team? Well, Kaalum was definitely
one of those. And we visited with him after the
game to talk about the impact of this win and
how they went about achieving it. Because I know it

(14:50):
took an awful lot from you and your teammates to
turn this thing around tonight. But if you've got a
chance and that's some determination. How about your faults on
boots that I lost.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, I mean it was an offensive game for us tonight,
but still being able to grind it out, you know,
really crash the glass hard even though shots aren't falling
and getting second team he grew up.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
As a team today you definitely do. How important is
it when shots aren't falling to.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Especially in the league like this. I mean, you're gonna
be playing time every night. There's no chance that you
can't win without d games.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
And as the games go on, I see you guys
getting close. Now, you guys you're young, you've been now
together and you see like this team's really coming together.
As far as leadership.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
There, I mean, we got a lot of older guys
on our team, me, Treymont and Kayden said, especially with
Julian Larry and Jason Kent, we're a pretty old team.
I mean that leadership portion has to come in and
as young players that are really gonna make the impact.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Let me ask you about that work you did on
the glouts on that lous when you were not gonna
let anybody get close to you.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, no, no, that one was fine, but hit back
on and I knew it was gonna bounce off a
certain way.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I was like, Yeah, that's my boy. How important is that?
And then be knowing that you gotta know was shot
at the he's cooking in on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I know we saw had the last time we paid
against him, and now they come home.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
All right, Hey, great job that I appreciate the time. Yes,
all right, Arthur Kaluma and well traveled player. By the way.
You know, the long Ones faced him three years ago
when he played for Creighton when they came in and
that and uh, they were ranked very highly and Texas
won that game at uh uh at the Irwin Center.

(16:28):
And that was three years ago. And then for two seasons, uh,
they went up against him when he was playing for
Kansas State, and I was always impressed by how hard
that guy works and how he can kind of be
a beast and he also hit a big three and
all that kind of stuff, and uh, and I think
Texas is fortunate to have him. He's he's really provided also,

(16:50):
you know, kind of doing the dirty work that didn't
attract much attention. Kayden Shedrick had nine points, nine rebounds
in the game and a block shot and and also
just here's the tallest guy, the biggest guy on the
floor for Texas Cam and he just completely disregard for
his own body crashing before it. This guy has had
double shoulder surgery and ankle issues and things like that,

(17:15):
diving Todd the floor to get a big tie up
when the long wornes were making their push down the
stretch of the game. He's another guy that just kind
of gave all out effort last night.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I thought he played one of his best games of
the season last night against Missouri in terms of the
way he attacked the glass, the way he battled down low.
I mean, it was a grind of a game last night.
It was a tough game and the team that was
going to be tougher was going to win it. And
I thought, maybe for the first time this season, we
saw that out of Texas from start to finish. I mean,

(17:45):
there was a chance Craig Missoo went up by four
in the second half, and we saw this against A
and M and Missouri I'm sorry, Florida and Tennessee. All
three games where it was close in the second half,
one possession games, and all of a sudden the game
was in the balance. Texas just either ran out of
gas or sort of settling or just started giving up

(18:07):
offensive rebounds and the other team was able to pull away.
I thought, for a second, Okay, here we go. This
is gonna end up just like Tennessee in A and M.
And it flipped, and we heard Klumas say it, we
heard our tea say it. The team grew up last night.
And it's a huge win, A huge win in a
huge credit Caden Shaddick the way he battled down low
and Tremon Mark didn't. He struggled to shoot the ball

(18:29):
well one to six, but defensively he played great and
he was hustling as well. Where we're starting to see
that out of these guys kind of grow together as
a team.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Because if you want to.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Win in this league, and you want to make it
BENSA a tournament team, you got to play like that
almost every night.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Crag.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I mean, seven of the first eight games in Conference
player coming against top twenty five teams. That's an insane
start to the season. So Texas a huge win last night.
They jumped to thirty three in the net ranking, and
I think the cogn to the coaches, they think seven
wins will get them in the tournament. Seven wins in conference,
but two and five right now, a tough one on
Saturday against A and M. You got Ole Miss, two

(19:06):
and four, two and four, you got Ole Miss coming
up next week on the road, an Ole Miss team.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It's very well coached under Chris Beard.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
So to be able to pick the pick up that
win last night, I think that was a must win
game and Long Horns got it done.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, beating a ranked opponent, quad one victory, all of
those kinds of things. They do have another shot at
the Gaggi's and a chance to build some more minimum
because that has escaped them this year. Come up with
a big win like the one at Oklahoma. Unfortunately, this
schedule had them traveling the face fifth ranked Florida on
the road and they lose to Florida, a team which
by the way, lost at holding the Missouri Florida did.

(19:40):
But the long Horns are able to beat Missouri at home,
a ranked opponent, and to get a quad one win.
So a chance to build on that with A and
M coming in on Saturday afternoon, that's a one thirty
tip off, one o'clock pre game start time here on
the Zone. They'll have that before they go to Oxford
to take on Ole Miss. So yeah, there's the opportunities
there if they can continue to try to build on that.

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All right, coming up next, we'll move on to Inconceivable.
We have some inconceivable and we will talk more about
this Texas victory and any questions or comments you have
on that, you can hit us on the text line
for that or on the you know, on the talk
back feature you can do that as well. So we'll
get to those. We've got pro football to get to.
And yeah, some closing thoughts on the college football season

(20:24):
now that that game is in the books. Cam and
I were both on a plane coming back from Newark,
New Jersey on Monday night when that game was being
decided in favor of Ohio State over Notre Dame. But
we'll talk about all of those things and more. We'll
continue here on The Craigway Show on AM thirteen under
the Zone. Craigway alongside the producer Cam Parker, glad to
have you with us here on this Wednesday afternoon, weather

(20:46):
warming up a little bit kind of nasty, obviously. Would
you like to tell people about our arrival back in
Austin late Monday night, not that they would care, but
just you know, with a different, a different on how
the weather placed in all of this, you know.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
And Sunday we landed in Newark about one pm Eastern time,
that's right in New Jersey. And I had texts from
from friends who were in New Jersey who I was
going to meet up with, saying, you still coming. We
got a winter storm. It's going to be an omen
of mine, be a blizzard. But yeah, flight's still good,
So we're good. And you know, we landed and the

(21:23):
flurries were coming, and then we got about what five inches,
and we drove We drove through it on the way
to the team dinner and on the way back.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
It's kind of inside. Yeah, you know, I had a
lot of people I posted a picture of that, folks like,
oh my gosh. You know, it was like what you
don't understand is what a lot of people didn't understand, uh,
was how up there they're equipped to handle that deal. Yes,
they have snowplows out stuff like, but they had human

(21:51):
beings out on the street working for the city whatever,
shoveling snow out those those roads. You could almost eat
off of them even in it with five inches of
snow falling.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I don't know, eating part by very clear at the
see that. Yeah, they're prepared for that type of stuff,
whereas you know Texas, eh, five inches, it would probably
shut down the state for like a month, but you know,
for them, that's nothing like a drizzle rainfall. So yeah,
we got back what Monday night about one am, one
thirty am, I think close to that, and of course

(22:24):
the snow was falling, so you know, I landed. It's
twenty eight degrees outside and it's like, man, I thought
we left New York, but we got home Roland. I
don't know what day it is, Craig, I don't know
what time zone I'm in, but it's it's been a
fun week.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
You know. We had some wins, had some losses.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
We saw Texas Woman's take down a very good Maryland
team by thirty eight points, you know, out their second
win by thirty points or more against a top twenty
five team, which is pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Now, of course there's some masteris.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
You know, Alabama didn't have Sarah Ashley Barker all SEC
and Maryland lost Shyenne Sellars, the Big Ten player of
the week in the second quarter. But still there are
two teams that are really good, you know, losing a
player or not. Every team's got injuries on the men's side.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Well, and by the way, Texas already at a huge
league when Sellers went yeah that injury.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Still felt like Texas, just with a size advantage, was
gonna win that game on the men's side, Craig, I
think that we're seeing the schedule part of it play
a factor. And you know, I think Texas fans, you know,
how do you lose to Florida by twenty points? You know, like, ah,
here's the thing. And I think Artist said this in
this post game press conference yesterday. I think I saw
Eric Henry from two four seven right about it. We

(23:34):
played Oklahoma or Texas play Oklahoma last Wednesday nine pm.
Tip ridiculous but TESPN tribleheader. It's how at work. So
we got back at three in the morning, right, those
guys probably get back to their dorms three thirty four am,
wake up a little bit over. Twenty four hours later,
they're back at the airport. You fly to Florida, you
lose an hour, and then you play a Florida team
that's been at home all week. Right, I know they

(23:56):
lost the Missouri by one point, but they have been
home all week. You get in play a top ten
team and a team that I think is the second
best to you in the Southeastern Conference, and the second
half of that game, it was pretty.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Clear that Texas ran out of gas.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Now, you know, there's some things they need to work on,
right Still, obviously it's part of it, and traveling is
part of the schedule, but you kind of see it,
right you kind of. I mean, was it Iowa who
it was one of the ACC schools? Think maybe been
Stanford on their East coast trip and you know they
got blown out, blown out because you know, this west

(24:31):
coast east coast travel is a lot and it's taking
effect I think on the student athletes. The student part
for sure, but also I mean, all this travel, it's
tough on these guys. And when you have a school
that's been at home all week versus a school that's
been traveling all week, there is an advantage. And I
think we're going to see that, not just with Texas,
but also with a lot of other SEC schools. So

(24:52):
you know, I think we're going to see some Saturday
games where the scores there's gonna be a big blowout.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Right. We saw with Tennessee, right, they got destroyed by Florida.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
I don't think tennis See is worse than Florida by
twenty plus points, but they caught him on the right week.
And we're gonna see that throughout the Southeastern schedule. You're
gonna see it with the ACC and in the Big Ten,
with how these schools are traveling. We're gonna see it
in the entire year, and we're gonna get the tournament
time and you're gonna be fill out your bracket and
you're gonna be wondering, how did this team lose by
twenty but then they beat this other team by twenty

(25:20):
It's like, well, look at the travel schedule that week.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
So things that keep in play.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
You know, we always heard about the NBA in the
back to backs, and for a while it was always
on Twitter. NBA Twitter people were making money off gambling
because they realized, Hey, a team that's playing on a
back to back on a West coast trip is probably
gonna get killed because their legs are gonna be tired.
And now the NBA's on a good job of scheduling
and there's limited amounts of back to back and there's
more rest days.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
But for a while there.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Under the David Stern era when he was trying to
get as much basketball in as possible in a limited
amount of time, the travel caught up to the NBA
teams and NBA players, and not just the ones in
big cities like Houston or Atlanta where James Harden to
go to and go out club the night before.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
West Coast, East coast. It plays a.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Factor, and I think it played a factory in Texas's
week this past week and they're lost to Florida and
we're going to see it down the road another school.
So just a thing to keep in mind of a
good bounce back win for a Texas team that you know,
by the way, had went forty eight hours home forty
and they got back late Saturday night about ten eleven pm. Probably,
so a quick turnaround for them.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
And maybe, just maybe they may be starting to get
a break with the schedule a little bit, because after
going Saturday Tuesday, Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday Tuesday, with a lot
of those quick turnarounds, road follow by home, follow by road,
follow by road again, those things, they are now going
into a period of the next three weeks where they

(26:45):
will go Saturday Wednesday, Saturday, Wednesday Saturday before their next
Tuesday game, which will be a home game against a
really good Alabama team. But really they get that extra
day the Saturday to Wednesday. That helps. Meanwhile, on Saturday
at home, they'll play Texas A and M. Now the

(27:06):
Aggies have only to bust over on Friday night or
Friday afternoon to Friday evening. But they're going to be
coming off a game in Oxford tonight at sixteenth ranked
Old Miss, which by the way, is where the long
wrns will be Next Wednesday is at sixteenth ranked Old Miss.
Chris Beard's team Miss fifteen and three. They come off
an overtime loss at a good Mississippi State team, and

(27:29):
so they host Texas A and M tonight. The Aggies
are fourteen and four, they're three and two in the SEC,
and Ole Miss is fifteen and three and they're four
and one in the SEC. So that's going to be
interesting to see how all of that goes down.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
They that schedule, Craig A and M. Was it now
going to be three straight games? Begats the top twenty
five teams? Yeah, and possibly on a three game Losing
Street coming into Austin on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
True, so big game. It's always big obviously when it's
Texas against A and M. Cotton Holdings Lone Stars Showdown,
rival Re series matchup one o'clock airtime, one thirty tip
off here on thirteen under the Zone, which by the
way gets me to the text line clean up from
our number one, Ryan says, did you fix whatever is

(28:14):
wrong yet on the road games? Are you going to
be ninety eight one Saturday afternoon? Did I fix it?
Did I fix it? Ryan? I can't say as I
personally went out there and fixed those satellite dishes. I
did find out today, However, I did get an answer
on that. We had a conference call recapping the football

(28:35):
season I'm talking about next year with folks with lear
Field and with our Long Horn Radio Network crew, and
did find out it was a satellite power outage that
caused those problems early. They hoped they had that all
addressed and fixed. With regard to your second question, the
Saturday game will not be on ninety eight one because

(28:56):
that's a day game that the games that are on
ninety eight one are evening contest right after seven pm
seven pm.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
On as long as it as long as it tips off,
I think before seven thirty were good.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Okay, yeah, so so there there you go. So that's
that's the case with that last night scheme was on
ninety eight one, yep, yep. When I was talking about
the giant bug, that that Darth Vader bug off the
coast of Vietnam, somebody said, that story reminds me of
the movie Tom Horn. Steve McQueen staring at a lobster

(29:30):
on his plate. What's the matter, Tom, I've never eaten
a bug that that big before. That's good, so he'll say, hey,
it tastes like chicken.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Uh. Music trivia because this is a yacht rock Wednesday,
and we were playing Rosanna. So Rosanna Arquette is the
only person to have not one, but two number one
songs written about her Rosanna, which I think most everybody knew,
and if you didn't know, in fact, we'll come back
with it because it fits into yacht rock. It does
the great Peter Gabriel in your eyes. So there, we'll

(30:05):
bring it back on that when we get to the break,
which we're up at right now. So we said thank
you for returning to air and sparing us the exploits
of Doug Gottlieb and its hapless basketball team. Now we
didn't get a chance to hear, you know, Doug Gottlieb
is on Fox Sports Radio. And when this program isn't
on the air, when we have and we're going to
have a couple more situations like that due to travel

(30:27):
and or weather entanglements, it does happen. And so the
Doug Gottlieb Show is still happening. But there are many
of you who do not realize he's now the coach
of the Division one basketball team. He's the coach at
Green Bay. And would you say the Phoenix were or
is something like two and fifteen or something? They've lost
fifteen street games? Wow, I mean double check. Yeah, I

(30:50):
think it started. Actually, sorry, I think eighteen street games
eighteen straight two eighteen two and eighteen.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
No, I'm sorry, So well, hold on exhibit games. They
So they've lost fifteen straight games. They started out two
and three. I've lost fifteenth streets.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Okay, they're two and eighteen for the season, but they've
lost fifteen in the row. Yes, and yet he's still
doing his radio show too. Maybe that's the issue. I
don't know. Uh so no. So anyway, that's that's the deal.
So we're here, we'll be here tomorrow, we'll be here Friday,
and we'll see how it is going forward. You know,
some of the travel dates for Cameron, because you know,

(31:30):
Cameron is a road engineer for a long worn men's
basketball broadcast, and so it takes both of us out
of a show on occasion. So that does happen on occasion.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
But we will have We have not had Andrew Zimmele.
We haven't had the simple hours, but we will have
him next week. We'll be out I believe, Tuesday, Wednesday,
and Friday of next week traveling for Oxford and for
Baton Rouge. Right, but Andrew Zimmel the similar hours, similar hours, Yeah,
simile days with the six man as we call it.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Andrew Zimmel. I went off the bench. Yeah, there we go.
All right, Hey, coming up, We've got some more NFL
notes and college football to get to when we come
back here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone.
Speaking of basketball, have you kept up with Greg Popovich lately?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I mean, so the update today about him and his return,
and they're still just you know, not being sure. I
mean he had a stroke, Greig, So yeah, you know,
first things first, take.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Care of yourself. RC Buford, the CEO, said that he
is getting better. He's been aggressive in his recovery from
the stroke. The Spurs are in Paris to play the
Pacers this week, a couple of games, of course, kind
of homecoming for Wimby. On that Youfford said, quote, all
I can share is he's attacking his rehab in a

(32:48):
way that you know Pop, You've observed him for years.
That is what he said today. The same resilience that
he's shown over the course of our career as a coach,
He's approaching his return and his rehab in an incredibly
unique way. The relationships that he's having our former players
and the care they're sharing with him is amazing, and
his improvement continues. Nobody knows when or even if Papovitch

(33:12):
will be back on the sideline, and Buford says there's
no timeline in place. He said, quote, I don't know
that we have any way to judge the clock. Predicting
what's to come is just to function where Pop's rehab goes.
So they're saying he's still he still calls, said Chris Paul.
There's still communication going on and things like that. So anyway,

(33:33):
that's an update there on Greg Popovich. I wanted to
get to college football briefly here. We didn't get a
chance to see most of the National Championship game between
Ohio State and Notre Dame, given that we were in
the air flying back from the door. We did see

(33:54):
what most of the the second quarter right, a good
chunk of the first half, and we saw when Ohio
State kind of took command of the game of those
two second quarter touchdowns, but didn't Notre Dame didn't make
a push late in the game. They got it back
to within eight and then before before Ohio State was
able to make the stop and get the field goal
to make it a two score game and put it

(34:15):
out of reach. So Final AP Poll comes out a
lot of conversation about this, although I don't think it
really matters that much. Ohio State number one, Notre Dame
number two, Oregon third, Texas fourth, Penn State fifth, first
time in AP history the three Big Ten schools have
been ranked in the top five of the final poll.

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Then it finishes with Georgia, Arizona State, Boise State, Tennessee,
and Indiana to round out the top ten. Second ten
Ole miss is SMU at number twelve. It's the highest
finish they had since they were number eight in nineteen
eighty four, forty years ago pre death penalty. Then BYU Clemson,
Iowa State, Illinois, Alabama, Miami, South Carolina and Syracuse. The

(35:00):
final five in the pole Army Missouri, un L V.
Memphis and Colorado or there or the way is how
that finished up. So anyway, Longhorns finished number four in
the poll. I don't think it matters whether they're three
or four, really doesn't matter. Some folks that I should
Organ him been in organ only lost one game. The
common thread they both lost to Ohio State. It's a

(35:21):
common threat of Notre Dame. They all lost to Ohio
State there. I know some folks from grumbling about how
Texas could finish ahead of Georgia when Georgia beat the
long Worns twice. But you know, Georgia got knocked out
by Notre Dame in the quarterfinal or the semifinal, whereas
or in the quarterfinal, whereas Texas had the opportunity there

(35:44):
in to win that semifinal against Ohio State or at
least get it to overtime before it got away again.
I don't think it matters that much. It's more talking
points I think for fans probably, and they can put
in there it was a top five finish in the
polls and things like that, and number four, I think
the more significant number out of this for Texas. It's

(36:07):
something I mentioned last week. The Longhorns in the last
two years have gone twenty five and five and er
Sark and I saw and I don't remember. Maybe Billy
Luci had it with it its A and M Side,
I can't remember. But some other folks posted this as well,
and they were showing comparisons between Jimbo Fisher and Sark

(36:28):
after four years, and they were like real close, and
Jimbo had like better numbers on a couple of things.
What is glaringly left out of that is that those
the most impressive of those numbers for Jimbo were in
the first couple of years. It was already on the
downslide by year four. It's just the opposite with Sark
where it was started five and eight, then five and seven,

(36:51):
then eight and five, and then twelve and two and
thirteen and three after that. So they've gone twenty five
in five the last couple of years, and I think
that's the more significant thing, the upward tick, the upward trend,
not the overall tally of four years. Jimbo Fisher is
what a snake oil salesman in Steve Sarkisian. He won

(37:15):
a national title.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah, he did with a fantastic team, and that was
like a decade ago. I mean, how many college football
playoff berts the Jimo Fisher have zero? How many the
sarkav two? If you want to say, well, well they
expanded for okay, the top four format Sark one, Jimbo zero.
So that that that that makes me ill hearing people

(37:36):
compare Jimbo Fisher to Steve Sarkisian. Watch Jimbo's offenses the
last decade in watch Sarks and then you'll realize, Okay,
these are not the two same head coaches. Give them
credit Florida State, but I think he kind of just
struck gold there with Jamis Winston and the amount of
talent that team had on both sides of the ball.
But at A and M no night and day difference

(37:56):
between him and Steve Sarkisian. Oh, okay, I wanted to
get that note in before we went back over to
the NFL. Uh here and uh discuss what we're looking
at this weekend. We'll conference championship games two weeks ago,
I guess it was. I think it was two weeks ago.

(38:20):
Who knows, who knows?

Speaker 1 (38:22):
It's been a blur the last Wednesday right on the air,
and what a decade like last Tuesday we did a
show or something like that.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
No, because we were in Norman last Tuesday, last Monday.
Last Monday was the last time we were in the studio.
I'm sorry, folks, you know we're sorry.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Did we I'm trying to think, did we do a
show because we.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Left Tuesday for Norman? We were gone the entire week.
Because we got back Thursday. We didn't have a show Thursday,
because I believe rod Babers filled.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
In for us. Oh that's right. I I well Monday,
I had. I had Long Worn Weekly on Thursday, and
we will have that tomorrow night. A couple of things
happening tomorrow. LongRun Weekly with Rodney Terry will come away
from Pluckers Live the West Campus location. Will have that
at six o'clock. Roger Wallace will step in for me

(39:12):
on the Texas women's game. They tip at seven at
Moody Center against seventeenth rank Tennessee. That should be a
good matchup on that really good. Yeah, But we will
have daily shows obviously today and then Tomorrow and Friday,
and then I will go to Oxford, Mississippi, to call

(39:33):
the Texas women's game against a good old Miss team
on Sunday afternoon, come back, and then we'll be in
studio on Monday before we leave Tuesday for Oxford for
the men's game. Correct, Yes, because we have the men's
game at home on Saturday against A and m then
off to Oxford. I'll go to call the women's game Sunday,
come back, We have a show Monday, then Tuesday, we

(39:55):
go to Oxford whether Tuesday Wednesday, and we come back
after that. When do we tip out against Ole Miss?

Speaker 5 (40:00):
What?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Probably? Nah? I think it's the atm Yeah, it's another
eight of car Yeah, so there'll be some more of that.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Anyway, I would love if we get one of these
six pm tips. Please throw us a bone here.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, it'd be nice. But they know what TV ratings
say about Texas. It's funny bring that up because a
little radio business for you on a conference call that
we had today or a teams meeting with folks from

(40:37):
lear Field and the network and everything. They pulled up
a graphic, a chart, a spreadsheet showing what listenership was
just online online, not here on thirteen hundred the zone,
not on not ey of one kvit FM, but just

(40:57):
online listeners meaning apps or listing online. Uh, to long
run football games. The numbers were astronomically big. Uh. Texas
was number uh one, two or three in about every category.

(41:19):
There were a couple of categories were like Arkansas and
West Virginia had some larger numbers. When you think about
they're no pro sports teams in those states, uh, you
know that kind of thing. No NBA teams, no NFL teams,
no NHL teams, no Major League Baseball teams, none of
those in those states. So obviously they're gonna they're gonna
have the Lion's chair of the listing audience on those

(41:42):
kinds of things anyway, But even on some categories, Texas
outpays some of those. So obviously there's a great deal
of interest in the Longhorns and the long run football program.
So uh, yeah, it was. It was pretty significant off
of that all right. Up next, we've got a couple
of NFL and will gather together and get to you

(42:03):
when we continue here on thirteen under the Zone. I
have to confess I am neither a fan of nor
nor a non fan of In other words, people who
root against this team all the time, I'm neither. When
it comes to the Kansas City Chiefs, I'm not fat.

(42:26):
I remember one of the first Super Bowls I remember
as little kid, was there upset of the Vikings in
Super Bowl four. That was really cool. And I remember
rooting for the Chiefs of that, and I always kind
of liked the Chiefs a little bit, but it was
never really a huge fan of theirs, or non fan
or whatever. And even as they got good and as
have come up with what three super Bowl titles in

(42:47):
the last five years, I guess I don't you know,
I didn't feel any antipathy toward them or to Patrick Mahomes.
I have a lot of respect for pasta trick Mahomes
game and the way he plays the game, and several
of the Chiefs. Now there's some guys that I don't
necessarily for that played for Kansas City, but they're guys

(43:09):
who did and there were Longhorns that played for the
Chiefs that I really admired, Guys that I've gotten to
know all through the years, like obviously Derek Johnson, Alex
okafor recently Jamal Charles, guys who played in Kansas City.
Always had great admiration and respect for the Hunt family
and what Lamar Hunt did in his founding of the

(43:31):
AFL in nineteen fifty nine and how it started, and
he started the franchise in Dallas as the Texans, and
they were even out drawing the Cowboys in their early
expansion years in the NFL. And the Texans actually won
the AFL title over the Houston Oilers in nineteen sixty
two and still the longest NFL game ever played to
this day, well into the second overtime and getting near

(43:55):
the end of the second overtime when they won it
on Tommy Brooker's twenty five yard field goal to win
twenty to seventeen. You know so, And then being the
guy who grasped the big picture of it, Lamar Hunt
knew that in order for the league to survive, he

(44:18):
had to have healthy franchises, and he didn't have They
didn't have healthy franchises. In every city. The Oakland Raiders
very nearly folded. The New York Titans went bankrupt before
Sunny Werblin bawmb out and transformed them into the Jets,
and that was another major chapter involved there. The Chargers
had to move from Los Angeles to San Diego and
eventually back to LA There were teams that were really struggling.

(44:42):
The Texans were doing okay at the gate. In fact,
they were out drawing the Cowboys. But in order for
the greater good of the American Football League, Lamar Hunt
moved the Dallas Texans to Kansas City and they became
the Chiefs of nineteen sixty three, fresh off winning the
AFL title, and then three years later they won the

(45:03):
AFL Championship, lost to the Packers in Super Bowl one,
and then three years after that they won Super Bowl four,
beating the heavily favored Minnesota Vikings. They didn't win another
Super Bowl until Mahomes and the Chiefs beat the forty
nine Ers the first time. And they've had this great
run Kansas City, and Kansas City is trying to become

(45:25):
the first team in NFL history to win three straight
Super Bowls. The Packers won three straight quote unquote NFL
titles in sixty five, sixty six, and sixty seven, but
they didn't start the Super Bowl until after the sixty
six season, so Leny only won two Super Bowls back
to back. The Dolphins won two Super Bowls back to back,

(45:46):
Super Bowl seven, Super Bowl eight. The Steelers won two
Super Bowls on back to back on two different occasions.
The Patriots, as we know, have done that as well.
But no team in the his tree of the NFL
has ever won three consecutive Super Bowls, and the Chiefs
are trying to get there now, and there are many
who feel that they're still kind of the odds on favorite.

(46:09):
Then there are those who feel that the reason that
they are the odds on favorite is because they are
the odds on favorite of the officials in the NFL.
I don't know about you, Cam, I don't even say that.
It's just social media is just avalanched after every Chief's
game with how much the NFL is in it with

(46:31):
the officials to ensure the fact that the Chiefs win
and Mahomes is protected and the hit that he took
the other day should not have been flagged by will
Anderson and Anderson said, what where we have to go
up against everybody? And he was talking about the officials
as well. So there's a lot of that that happens,

(46:54):
and I've seen memes of I think it was Bill
Vinovich the official wearing red white like Kansas City colors.
Uh and and and so there's a lot of frustration
out there from fans who feel that the Homes and
the Chiefs are getting favorable treatment by the officials.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
It's the same thing we went through with Tom Brady
and the Patriots, where in the postseason, you know theyough
always find the way to win, and you know, of
course there's going to be some big penalties, and it's like, yeah,
the NFL just wants Tom Brady and Bill Belichick and
the Patriots to win. I remember that when they beat
Casey or Brady's last Super Bowl ring in New England.

(47:35):
You know, there was a huge offside penalty against d
I want to say D Gordon, but I don't think
that's his name on the defensive lineman. And I believe
there's a past interference called too both coming on like
third and fourth downs, I think, and a lot of
people thought, yeah, it's the NFL wants them to win.
Now it's the Chiefs turn. And it's because there when
you when a team gets so good and successful, thank you.

(47:59):
You know, everyone wants them to lose, right, I think
more people now are anti Mahomes and the Chiefs than
they were, you know, three years ago. And you know
that's that's part of being successful. You know, some people
want them to lose. And now it's kind of turned
into this. Now here's a stat for you. I heard
over the weekend. Okay, I think in the playoffs, in
this playoff run for the Kansas City Chiefs in the

(48:22):
fourth quarter, their opponents have been flagged for forty eight penalties.
Do you know how many even flags against the Kansas
City Chiefs. No, forty seven, So it's that close, that close,
but based off Twitter, it's forty eight to nothing. Yeah, right,
So for those of you who think the NFL is
in cahoots with the Chiefs, they've been called for one
less penalty than their opponents in the playoffs, all right,

(48:45):
one less penalty. They actually are one of the most
penalized teams in NFL. They're always they're an awful team
when it comes to penalties, but they just keep winning.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
So people are like, yeah, they're just getting all the calls. Yeah.
So here's where I was going with this headline. Today.
Patrick Mahomes disagrees Chiefs are getting favorable calls. His quote was,
I don't feel that way. At the end of the day.
The referees are doing their best to call the game
as fair and proper as they possibly can, and all

(49:13):
you can do is go out there and play the
game that you love as hard as you can and
live with the results. I think that's what we preach
here in Kansas City. You get new referees every year
because he needs officials. There's only one referee at a
time on the field anyway. You get new referees every
year in new circumstances, and you can never really tell
because every play is different, and that's what makes the
NFL so special. I feel like I've just continued to

(49:33):
play the game and I just try to win and
whatever kind of happens happens. Will Anderson said, we knew
it was going to be us versus the refs going
into this game. I didn't see if he got fined
for that, but it doesn't matter. I know Chris Boyd
may or may not have the texanss goofy with him
going over there to the sidelline and the shoving the special
teams coach. But that's Chris Boyd. We saw him on

(49:57):
display in Austin anyway. So the Chiefs are saying, I
don't you know, it's not like that. It's not like that,
even though others are saying that it is like that.
I would just say this, Mahomes is a different and
yes special kind of quarterback. He can make some plays

(50:19):
that other quarterbacks just cannot make. I think Matthew Stafford's
done a fine job as the Rams quarterback for the
team I root for. And by the way it was reported,
think Kelly his wife, and he played those last last
game and a half with broken ribs in that game,

(50:39):
and I thought he played really well against the Eagles.
I walked away from that game as a Rams fan. Yeah,
disappointed that they couldn't win in it. But if you
told me before, hey, they're going to have it inside
the twenty yard line inside the final minute, needing only
a touchdown and extra point to win the game in
Philly in the snow, I would have said, give it

(51:01):
to me. I'll take that. I'll sign up for that
you know, eight days a week do that well. Anyway,
Stafford had a heck of a game, he had a
heck of a postseason. But he's not Patrick Mahomes. He
can't make the moves that Mahomes may, and the late
decisions that Mahomes can make with the football, whether to
keep or throw it. It's those late decisions that quite

(51:23):
often throw a defense out of balance and they wind
up getting called for a late hit, sometimes unfairly, and
I think it was unfairly in the Will in the
case of the Will and Ers something. But to say
that the officials are in it for the Chiefs, No,
I don't see that. And your number backs that up
what we were just talking about. All right, we'll be
back to wrap up our number two here. I'm thirteen

(51:45):
under the zone. Craig Way, the producer, Cameron Parker alongside
glad to have you with us. A couple of college
football notes and wanted to get to and then some
NFL notes as well. Okay, there were some rankings, final

(52:05):
rankings and early rankings and all the other kind of stuff,
because we do live in a world of rankings, folks.
Like the rankings. ESPN had its top one hundred college
football player rankings of the twenty four twenty five season,
starting all the way with number one hundred with Barrett Carter,

(52:28):
the Clemson linebacker, and then rolling on down the list.
Andrew mccouba checks in at number ninety three on the
top one hundred. Quinn Viewers ninety one. It's Quinn yours
and a lot of folks will go what ToJ Brooks
from Maynor? Number ninety The Texas Tech running back Jordan Tyson,

(52:52):
who we did not get to see, is Brooks the
all time leading rusher for Texas Tech. I think he is.
Let me see, Yeah he is? For him yep, and
the only power for running back the top one hundred
yards in every game he played this year. It's only
good enough to be number ninety.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
And I believe they added another major product in the
transfer portal. Yeah, with a former USC running back cut
and Joiner. That is correct, all right?

Speaker 1 (53:18):
So just skipping through a couple of other ones as
we moved down the list, like Blake Horvat, the Navy
quarterback was number eighty four. Trevion Henderson. Lorn fans are
familiar with Trevion Anderson, the catch and run seventy five
yards for the touchdown. In fact, that's the picture they're
showing up him. Number eighty three wasn't touched on that
play and was not touched on that play. Number eighty

(53:41):
three on the list a Mecca Buca from Ohio State,
number seventy eight. Riley Leonard, the Notre Dame quarterback.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Said those Twohow State players will not be playing in
Texas next year.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
That is correct. Several of these players are not going
to be back. That This was for the twenty twenty
four season. Riley Leonard, the Notre Dame quarterback, was number
seventy six. Matthew Golden, who will be off to the NFL,
Number seventy four in the list. Just rolling on that.
Diego Pavia who will be back to play for Vanderbilt

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because he got his legal He was able to get
his lawsuit correctly interpreted by the NCAA and so now
he's going to be back. He'll be back. He was
number sixty nine on the list. And these were the
top one hundred college football players of the year. Lathan Ramsen,

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junior safety for Ohio State, number sixty. Sam Levitt, the
Arizona State freshman quarterback, retro freshman quarterback number fifty eight.
Will Howard, the Ohio State quarterback, number fifty seven on
this Danny Stutsman, the Oklahoma senior running back, number fifty four.
K club Nick Clemson quarterback from west Lake, number fifty

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three on this list. The guy who I thought was
as good a wide receiver as there wasn't all of
college football this year. Xavier Verstrepo in Miami called sixty
nine passes for eleven under twenty seven yards and eleven
touchdowns finished number fifty ranked fiftieth. Next, let's see and

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again I'm just rolling down the list here. Tate Ratledge,
the outstanding offensive lineman from Georgia's number forty on that list.
John Matteer, the Washington State quarterback who's transferring to Oklahoma,
number thirty eight on the list. Jackson Dart from Ole,
miss their quarterback number thirty six. JT. Chuamoloiw the Ohio

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State defensive end number thirty five on the list. Donovan
Jackson the Ohio State offensive tackle, number thirty two. Anthony Hill,
a long one linebacker, number thirty on that Malachi Starks,
the Georgia safety, number twenty nine on the list. Curtis Schwart,
the Indiana quarterback, number twenty five on the list. Jack Sawyer,

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yep long run. Fans known him as well the game
clinching touchdown, the sack, the scoop and score number twenty two.
Omarion Hampton, the running back for North Carolina number twenty one.
Shduor Sanders Kylorado quarterback number twenty on this list. Caleb Downs,
the Ohio State sophomore safety, number eighteen on the list,

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Jaylen Walker, the Georgia linebacker number fifteen, Jade Barn number
fourteen out of the top one hundred. Off of that,
Mason Graham the Michigan junior defensive tackle number eleven, Dylan
Gabriel the Oregon quarterback number nine, Kelvin Banks number seven
out of the top one hundred, Tyler Warren the Penn

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State tight end number six, Jeremiah Smith, the Ohio State
freshman wide receiver, number five, Cam Scataboo the Arizona State
running back number four, Cam Ward good Time to be
a Cam Cam number three Cam Ward the Miami quarterback.
Ashton genty from Boise State, number two and the number
one ranked player the Heisman Trophy winner Travis Hunter so

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that was the top one hundred players as ranked by
ESPN okay, so there was that. Now on the heels
of that comes the way too early rankings for next year.
I've never been a big fan of these the way
too early thing, simply because it's just that it's way

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too early because we don't know what guys might get hurt,
which guys might be in the portal, which guys might
come into a team from the portal, So they have
the way too early rankings. So just going in reverse

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order off of these way too early rankings, number twenty
five is Navy, twenty four is Vanderbilt, twenty three is Michigan,
twenty two is Iowa State, Texas A and m is
number twenty one, SMU is twenty, Indiana nineteen, BYU eighteen, Ole,
miss seventeen, Florida is sixteen, Kansas State fifteen, Arizona State fourteen,

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Illinois thirteen, Alabama twelve, Miami number eleven, Tennessee number ten,
South Carolina number nine, LSU number eight, Georgia number seven,
lost a lot off that team, Oregon number six, Clemson
number five, Notre Dame number four, Penn State number three,

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Ohio State number two, yep, Texas. Wow. Really number one
in the way too early ranking.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
So one versus two the start the twenty twenty five season. Man,
who would have thought that when that game is announced
a few years ago.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Yeah, this is NCAA dot COM's rankings, by the way,
that picked this. Stan Beckton, the writer for that and
his rite up on the Longhorns is quote. Texas has
something a lot of elite college football teams don't entering
twenty twenty five. A scene commodity a quarterback. It'll be
the Arch Manning era under center at Texas with longtime

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starter Quin Viewers off to the NFL. Manning showed flashes
of greatness when he filled in in twenty twenty four,
winning two starts against Louisiana Monroe Mississippi State. He finished
with nine hundred and thirty nine passing yards, nine passing touchdowns,
and four rushing touchdowns. Manning won't be alone, as Texas
will have plenty of talent. Wide Receiver Ryan Wingo was
one of the top freshmen in his position, and the

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running back room is deep with players like CJ. Baxter
schedule to return. Defensively, linebacker Anthony Hill is a top
five defender in the country and defensive end Colin Simmons
looks like the future twenty twenty seven number one overall
pick in his freshman season. Malik Muhammad on the outside
can hold his own two. So yeah, the way too

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early thing as Texas number one for what that's worth.
And again, I'm not a big fan of way too
early rankings ever, but from a Texas perspective, yeah, that's hopeful. Yeah,
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
I think, you know, way too early rankings are a
little bit ridiculous, especially since the transfer portal. You know,
we still have the spring cycle to go through, there's
still injuries. I mean, we we do not really know
how these teams will look. But I'll tell you what
when when Texas goes up to Columbus, Ohio State will
look a lot different than what we saw at the
Cotton Bowl. No Will Howard, no Travon Henderson, likely quin

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Shawn Judkins will go to the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
No book cut. There will be Jeremiah Smith, I'll tell
you that. But Jack Sawyer, the two defensive linemen are gone,
and basically their entire offensive line is gone. But also
on the Texas side, you could say the same thing, right,
you're gonna have one offensive lineman back as a starter, sorry, Campbell,
and you know Trevor Gooz being Colot's and have some experience,

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but you're not sorry not starting experience in the defensive line. Two.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Obviously, Vernon has been brought in. Is will be gone,
Alfred Collins will be gone, but you know Trey Moore
will be back, Colin Simmons will be back, Anthony Barren
Serell will be gone. Barren Scerell will be gone to Norton.
Basically all the defensive tackles will be gone except for
Alex January. We've got some playing time, so it'll be

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completely different teams. But I then you feel good about
Texas going in the next season.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Absolutely, all right. So there's some way too early stuff
to look at when we come back. I've got a
couple of NFL notes. And then we're gonna hear from
Rodney Terry long worn men's basketball coach. Following that win
last night of the Missouri Tigers here on a Wednesday
afternoon on AM thirteen, out of the zone. Are you
familiar with this Tom you're serving by Karl? All right?
Do you know who it's about? Toothy Leary no, it's not.

(01:01:54):
It's not it's not either. No, no, no, it's the
way that Carly Simon explained that it's it's kind of
an amalgam of several people. However, two people in in
specific come in for mention, and people clever guessers were
able to identify two of them. One of them was

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David Geffen, the longtime record producer produced so many big,
big name albums, produced John Lennon's final album before he
was killed, and several others as well. He was one
of the ones. And then the other one was the
actor Warren Batty, and interesting and when asked about it
because of her different relationships with different ones. When asked

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about it, Carly Simon said, when asked about Warren Batty,
she said, well, definitely the third verse. She admitted to
that the third verse verse. The third verse starts off
with the lyrics, Well, I heard you flew your lyric
jet her you went to uh up to Saratoga and

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your horse naturally won. That's at the Saratoga you know
where they have the travers stakes and your horse naturally won.
Then you flew your leared jet up to Nova Scotia
to see the total eclipse of the Sun. Where you're well,
you're where you should be all the time, and when
you're not, you're with some underworld spy or the wife
of a close friend. So supposially that was about Warren

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Baty that that that third verse. Yeah, but it was
a big hit for Carly Simon, who and a little
one trivia there. Carly Simon grew up as a next
door neighbor to Jackie Robinson, the Jackie Robinson Yeah in
in uh in Connecticut, when when Jackie had I think

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just retired and was a vice president for Chock Full
of Nuts Coffee, And she grew up next and she
said her dream if you if you watch the The
Ken Burns documentary on Jackie Robin, she said her dream
was to be the centerfielder of the Dodgers. I was
playing her dream, she said. I was a tomboy, I
wanted to play baseball. He kind of taught her out

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to play baseball, and she wanted she wanted to be
the center fielder for the Dodgers, she said. Ultimately she
diverted off to other pursuits. But yeah, grew up as
the next door neighbor to Jackie Robinson at least when
she was in her very young age. All right, I
want to get to a couple of things here, the
NFL note that I wanted to point out, and this

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was I meant to do this last hour. And then
I got, as my late mom used to say, sidetracked.
I got sidetracked a little bit, and I started going
off in a different direction because people know, I'm, you know,
full admission to this that I can go around the
garage to get to the barn with the best of
them to drag out a story. But in this case,

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I just flat for God. But it was a couple
of weeks ago, Kim, when I saw the times had
already been established for the NFC Championship Game and the
AFC Championship Game. I haven't even looked at those. Well
it bothered me. Uh oh. It bothered me, uh oh,
because at the and you know, whatever, the wisdom and

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the luck of the NFL, this is going to work
out perfectly for them. Of the two games there that
are scheduled for this Sunday, which game would you say
should be the first game? The undercard?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
So the primetime game would be the best game, right right,
So I would say the first game would be Philadelphia Washington.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Exactly at two o'clock and then at five point thirty
Chief spills. So that works out NFC and AFC. But
two weeks ago when they made that call, I'm sitting
there thinking, and I'm more about geography and clock and
things like that. I'm thinking, what if the Rams beat
the Eagles, which almost happened, and the Commanders beat the Lions,

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which did happen, and he had a game in LA
and then let's just say what if Kansas City gets
upset and Buffalo is host. Now you got a team
in the Eastern time zone and a team in the
Pacific time zone, and you're gonna have the Eastern time
zone in a frigid environment kickoff at night when you've
got a West Coast indoor thing going off as the

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early game. Well, the NFL, you win, you always do.
They got what they wanted. I think that's the Mahomes effect.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
And yeah, if you want to argue they knew, Hey,
they already know Mahome is going to be there, becauere
you know what I think it is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
I think it's less Mahomes and it's more alternating CBS
Fox giving them the primetime windows on that deal. Fox
is going to have the Super Bowl, so CBS is
getting the primetime window on the Conference championship game. Now,
as it turns out, makes more sense right Buffalo, Kansas City.
Now it'll be frigidly cold in case, but makes more

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sense to have that game. And it'll be at five
Central time when that kicks off, and the Eagles game
against the Commanders will kick off at three o'clock local
time of the East, it'll be three and six thirty.
Of course, it alreadys gets It gets dark in Philadelphia
in the winter about two forty in the afternoon. I mean,
it's already practically dark when you do that. So anyway,

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so that was just something that was bugging me because
I let things like that bother me sometimes. But doesn't matter.
It's working out the way it's supposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
You're gonna miss most of the of the AFC Tunnle game, yep,
because he'll be well on a bus. And then do
you guys fly into I know people don't our listeners
probably don't care about travel schedule, but are you flying
into Memphis or two plow the where's the team flying?

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
The team is flying in and out of two Polo. Okay,
So that's where the charter flight will be. Saturday night.
When I'm going in commercial, I have to go into Memphis,
then drive and pick up a rental car and drive.
It's about a little over an hour drives for about
an hour ten minutes something like that. I'll be going
down the highway where Eddie Orrin has been pulled for
eating on several occasions, he's been.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Pulled out off by his hair. He said he to
as his u given name, Yeah, Ralph, Ralph uh, he said.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
The officer thumped him on the head time after stopping
him for speeding, thumped him on the head. I'm gonna
tell you, Ralph, I'm gonna follow you to the state
line the Mississippi, and if you go one mile over,
he said, you're gonna be so far into the jail
that Ralph's senior won't be able to bail you out.
And he said, my hens, we're at ten and two

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on the wheel. I was going fifty five miles an
hour all the way to the state state line, and
when I crossed the border, the cop turned around and
went back the other way. So I'll keep that in
mind as I drive down to Oxford. All right, that
that that'll be Sunday the Texas women at Ole miss
And yeah, I'll be flying back while that game's going on.
That AFC Championship. Long Warn men's next action will be

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on Saturday afternoon at home against Texas A and M.
And they will be coming off. That will be big
win of the Missouri Tigers had some big moments, big stops.
You know, as we mentioned some unheralded contributions from Cayden
Shedrick and Julian Larry. They were real big with what
they did. Larry guarding Caleb Grill, the outstanding three point

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shooter from Missouri, Arthur Klumba with the double double and
the big put back Bucket Lake. That was all in
the conversation that I had after the game alongside Eddie
Orn with head coach Rodney Terry visiting with long Oarts
head coach Rodney Terry. You we're just talking Arthur Kluma
about this, and Art was talking about having to dig
down deep and find some stuff. And you know, four
points is not an insurmountable deficit, but when shots are

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tough to come by and you're down for forty five
forty one with eight minutes to go and missed eight
in a row. All of a sudden, you saw your
guys really dig down and find something extra, didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
No great Dennis has done a great job with this team.
I thought coming into this game, they were the hottest
team in the league, to be honest with you went
on the road and beat a really good Florida team,
and ready to handle those guys that they're at Florida's
home court. You know when you're coming in, these guys,
couple of games have been scored over fifty points and
a half, you know, so to hold him the twenty
seven at the half and hold.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
In the fifty three for the game.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
I thought I got played really, really hard on defense.
And the thing I challenged them with the last couple
of days is, you know, you know, find a way,
but you have to make a way, and.

Speaker 5 (01:10:16):
Then to play selfish, play.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
For each other, have each other's back, play together, and
just play hard.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
That's Texas basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
We talked about the fact and you and I have
talked about this several times about finding a way when
your shots are not falling, don't let it carry over
to your defense. And you guys didn't do that. Down
the stretch. He kept you in the ball gain.

Speaker 5 (01:10:35):
No we didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
I mean we had the de freezer last night and
we felt like we had a freeze to start the
game right, no one could make a shot. But I thought,
again we needed that was a really good defensive team
to those guys, they switch everything, they're in the passing lanes.
They make it really hard for you defensively. We knew
we were gonna have to try to engage to hit
the open guy. You weren't gonna get a lot of
great open looks. And when you got an open look,

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you have to be shot ready to score the basketball.
Still need to get some points in the pay so
we need to put.

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
That ball in the side.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
I thought the guy's executed a couple of times down
the stretch, especially against his own not settling and put
the ball in the paint. And we got to the
file line.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Let me ask you about some contributions. Arn't we know
what a monstrous came he at for you fourteen points,
twelve boards. But also I thought Kayden really gave of himself,
hit the deck, got to tie up key block shot
nine points, nine boards. And I thought Julian Larry really
gave you a lyft too with what he did for you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
Defensively, Both of those guys did I'll tell you Cay
and played physical, you know, played some tough defensive force,
picked up some files early there in the first half.
A wee had to send him a little bit columb
in the last two games. I mean, he's he needs
a day or two just to count for the recovery piece.
I mean, he's nicked up all over the place. You know,
if you name it, he's got to he's got an
aching bone somewhere. So just trying to must them through

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it was just big for him being able to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:48):
And then Larry came in and really got it for us.
Grills a really big threat out there from the perimeter.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
I thought he did a great job of go outing
to the premierive players over there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
You wanted to go in and you talk about transition,
they get two buckets transition.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
You talk about they're shooting three half their shots for three,
held four for twenty two. Great job on both those areas.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
No, absolutely, and they were keys to the game. Eddie
were plus eight on the glass. He's got been shooting
lights out from three that they had ten threes and
gets Arkansas the other night, and Grills in particular has
been shooting the ball really really well. He made one
tough one in the first half that was closer contested,
but good shooting team and a team that if they
can turn you over, they'll play really fast in transition

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and make you pay. I thought we did a pretty
good job of taking care of the basketball. We had
ten turnovers. We always strive to have at least ten
or less to what we don't beat ourselves. There's gonna
be some basketball turnovers in there from time to time.
But I thought we played really really hard and protecting
the ball well.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
You brought up the facts about getting Arthur some rest.
One thing I noticed about the schedule. It looks like
it turns a little bit before you in that you
get a little more time, a little more rest. In
that you've got a Saturday Wednesday. Saturday Wednesday, you get
that won the electrare day can make a difference case.

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
It's a huge us right now, I'll tell you what this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
You know, the gun that we just came off of,
we had to go to hold you and play at
nine o'clock game, get home at three in the morning,
and go to bed at four. You know, you got
one day prep, you know, because you can't do anything
on Thursday, and then you got to get back on
the plane at noon and play a good Florida team.
At four, I thought our guy's battle. I thought we
ran out of gas a little.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
Bit over there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
We cut into a two position game twice and couldn't
get over the hump. But we don't make any excuses.

Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
We deal with what we deal with. We live where
our feet are.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
And I thought tonight we had great effort and attention
to detail.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Day off tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
Oh, they need a day we all needed the Ultimore.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
All right, congrat states.

Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Yeah, they all could use that day off and they
earned it obviously. With that, hart Fault went over the
Missouri Tigers. Next action is Saturday afternoon against the Aggies
of Texas A and M and that Cotton Holdings Lone
Stars Showdown Rivalry Series matchup. It's a one thirty tip off.
You can hear it on the Zone beginning at one

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o'clock with our pregame coverage. And we do have long
worn weekly with Rodney Terry Tomorrow night at Pluckers the
West Campus, location six o'clock airtime to run from six
to seven, and we'll have a player join us out
there as well, so we see out there. It'll be
live here on his own tomorrow evening at six as

(01:14:21):
we bring in Longhorn Weekly with Rodney Terry from Pluckers.
We've got some other basketball news to get to when
we continue here on thirteen under the Zone. I was
going to get to a couple of NBA questions for you,
since you are such the NBA honk. By the way,
if Clay Bennett turned out to be a big tool
and started screwing up the Oklahoma City Thunder, would you

(01:14:45):
disavow your fandom for the Thunder the way you have
the Cowboys. It's a loaded question. I know it's hypothetical.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Thunder them went team in the Western Conference. There has
nothing to complain about, right, Okay, Now, if you want
to argue he refused to pay the luxury tax, and yeah,
he's the reason why James Harden was traded the Houston
for a bag of peanuts and Kevin Martin's corpse, then
sure you can you can point to that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
But he's been he's been fine since. Because they've got
one appearance in the NBA Finals in their history, and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
The franchise have been around since two thousand and eight
and seven, Yeah, one finals appearance since then, the Cowboys
have zero and Oklahoma City has let's see Western Conference
Final appearance in twenty sixteen, twenty twelve, twenty eleven. So
what three times? Three times had been to the actually
sorry four times, right because oss of the Mavericks beat

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the Spurs, loss of the Spurs, and then lost to
the Warriors in seven So four Western Conference Finals appearances
and Dallas Cowboys have how many since I was born
in zero?

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Okay, all right, and just just ask and just check
it on that and I don't think it would happen anyway,
but I was gonna ask him anyway. It was going
to bring up a couple of NBIA things, and then
I just see the story of his breaking news coming down.
But to Miami heater planning to suspend Jimmy Butler again,
this time for two games. He missed the team flight
today and he had plans to join the team tonight.

(01:16:20):
Now they're saying, no, you just stay home. You weren't
there for the to get on the plane with everybody else.
He had just come back Friday from a seven game
team suspension. What are you gonna do with him? I mean,
I know there's a lot of money involved as to
getting in the way of a trade. He wants out.

(01:16:40):
He wants to be out. The Heat say, they have
to have fair market value for him. Somebody's going to
pick up a big chunk of change on that kind
of deal. But are are they going to just get
a bag of peanuts for him?

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
It's tough because they don't only have a lot of leverature.
It seems like Jimmy Butler only wants to play for
a team that's willing to give him a contract extension.
Miami is not willing to do so. I think, you know,
pat Riley and Jimmy had that blow up in the
off season. He says, you know, we're not going to

(01:17:14):
give you an extension, and Jimmy Butler did not react
to that well, and that's why they're in the pickle
they are in now. I think they wanted to move
off of Jimmy Butler. They should have done a last season,
wanted to keep him, and it's not worked out.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
He's obviously he's not with the team. He's been suspended
for the second time this season, and if you're a
team that wants to trade for him now, unless there's
a team out there that is willing to trade for
him and give him a contract extension on the dot,
which you know may or may not be. There's only
a couple teams I can think of that would be
interested in signing Jimmy Butler long term. Maybe the Grizzlies,

(01:17:53):
maybe the Suns, maybe the Warriors, but also Craig. It's
important to keep in mind now with this new CBA,
the way the first Apron works and the second Apron works,
trading for superstars is not easy anymore. I think we're
what we're gonna see in these trade deadlines, kind of
like last season where you know, the big trade move

(01:18:14):
was when okay See traded for Gordon Hayward and I
think the Nick traded for Bogdanovitch.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
We're gonna see that a lot. We're not going to
see these superstars, Karl Anthony Towns.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
That was an off season though. That was that was
you're saying, yeah before the trade deadline.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
And by the way, I think it's impressive your use
of the word term apron. Yeah, I'm still not sure
what that entirely means.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I just know that if you're in the second apron,
it's not good for the first apron the first for
the second yea dead. But imagine if the first cut
of the rough is like Bethpage Black. So I'm not
sure what either sides are going to do here. If
Butler does get traded, it's it's not You're not going

(01:18:55):
to get a big haul for it. But at this point,
if you're Miami, I would just want to get rid
of him. But also, you know, if you finish out
this season, you let them walk, You're not going to
get anything in return. There's no way they can repair
the situation. So you know it basically, you know, what
do you Is it worth him just getting rid of
him now? In like, you know, would you do it

(01:19:16):
for Marcus Smart? You know, I think Marcus smartest better
than just letting him walk. But yeah, Miami, it's one
of the few mistakes I think we've seen pat Rally
make with this. And I thought, I think pat Raley
kind of thought he could have toughen Jimmy Butler up.
He thought that, Okay, the hard love would work on
Jimmy Butler, And it's not it's not and everywhere Jimmy's gone.

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I know he's taking Miami to two NBA finals, but
you know they weren't really close in those finals. They
got watched against the Lakers in the bubble, and you know,
that's a weird circumstance with the pandemic and the bubble,
and then against the Nuggets, Butler played awful in the finals.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Now since then, you know, he's been nicked up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
You know, he hasn't played well in the playoffs since then,
and I don't see the point in keeping him around.
But it's a situation that Miami probably could avoid it
by just dealing him last last summer. They did not,
and now they're stuck with the repercustoms.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Bad news for the Mavericks. Looks like Derekliveley's going to
miss two to three months. Yeah, he was listed questionable
for the night's game against the Tea Wolves. I saw
that ankle injury suffered. I was watching the other night,
and it looked like it was just a sprain or something,
and he'd been listened to question of them and then
they had further testing the day. It's a fracture, a
stress fracture in the right ankle. He's going to be

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reevaluated in four weeks. This guy was averaging nine points,
eight boards, three assists, two blocks, shot seventy percent from
the floor, you know, and he was he was really
big for them, and they run to the finals. Yeah,
he's a huge player.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
Last year, he was a big reason why they beat
Okay See in the semi finals without him him.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Being out now and he got Luca being out.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
You know, it's like, you know, I still like the
Mavericks a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
He did him the four to be healthy. You just
want them to be healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
And you're starting to get a little bit anxious here
because Luca's not coming back to what the All Star break.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
They say they're going to reevalue him and reevaluate him
in the coming days. No firm timetable.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
Set, yes, because right now Dallas is in the playing
spot right and so you keep dropping these games. You mentioned,
what's their record, another three of the twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
They've lost ten of fourteen since Luca's been out there
twenty three and twenty and that was that strain left calf.
And I've had this conversation where our brothers like, he's overweight,
he's not playing well. I said, no, he's got cankles.
He doesn't if you look at if you look at Luca,
he doesn't really have true calves and true ankles. He
has cankles. One just goes right into the other. So

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you know that's it's it's hard, and that's why he's
had so many injuries throughout that his calves are different
and he'd actually lost weight coming into the season.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
And I think Dallas will be fine. I think there's
if right now the playoffs started and if they were healthy,
if Luca and Derek Lively were healthy, I would say
that Mavericks and they just got Kyrie back, are the
second team they'll beat in the Western Conference behind Oka See.
But you know, if they keep on this trend losing,
you know, they're twelve and a half back from the
one seed, a game out of the six seeds, so

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they're in the play in right now, but five games
back from the two seats. So now you're looking at
a spot depending on how much they can can make up,
and you're gonna be playing on the road in the
first two rounds of the playoffs. Now, I know they
you know, they were able to beat okay See without
home court advantage and still make it to the NBA Finals.
But you know that could play a role because the

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playoffs are going to be tough, especially with Houston or Memphis,
are possibly Denver lurking in that first round. I mean
right now at the playoffs started, they're playing at Houston,
yeah to start, and then from Houston you're playing either
possibly Memphis or Denver. That's a real tough stretch to
go to the NBA Finals. So I think you'd like
to see them get healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
We'll be back to wrap up today's edition of the
program here on thirteen under the Zone.