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November 14, 2025 14 mins
CJ Vogel of OnTexasFootball joins the program to discuss Texas' third meeting with Georgia in the last two years. How much of a 'clean slate' is this year's matchup compared to last season? How can Texas slow down Gunner Stockton? Plus, which recruits is CJ excited to see later tonight?
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Because he was way behind and he was willing to
make a deal, but he.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Came across this young man sewing on the fiddle and
playing it hot, and the Devil jumped up on a
hikers jumps and bought, let me tell you what. I
guess you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player too,
And if you yes, Charlie Daniels, bend pretty good. Devil
went down to Georgia fiddle of gold against one of
those classics. And we're coming back with centered around this

(00:45):
this game, and it's a game that hopefully becomes a
classic in and of itself from the Texas perspective, and
joining us now to to break it down is is
on Texas Football's CJ Vogel. Who, CJ, I understand you're
out on the out on the recruiting trail this weekend
as well?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
That went out to Grayson a little trip out from Atlanta,
got to see five star Texas commit Tyler Atkinson in action.
And boy, let me tell you the Longhorns got themselves
quite a future at the position.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Well, so when you go to see these recruits, are
you watching them practice? Are you going to a game
as an already playoff season in the Peach State.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yesterday? Well, the practice today will be round one of
the Georgia High school playoffs out here in Atlanta. So
Tyler and Jake Collett, another Texas commit here in the
Georgia area, they will be getting active this evening in
hosts of winning a stage championship.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Hey, some folks in town are going to watch high
school football tonight and they know what Georgetown running back
jet Walker can do. He just got an offer from Texas.
What do you think Chad Scott and company see for
him if he's on the forty acres?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah? Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Jet Walker was actually recruited a little bit by Chad Scott,
actually earned a verbal commitment to West Virginia before he
ended up taking the Texas job. He's a six foot
two running back that man, oh man, does he have
some some wheels on him. Very very productive in his
career over there at Georgetown, ran for over ten and
a half yards per Carrie as a junior last year.

(02:19):
He can he can do just about everything out of
the back deal. He's got size to block, he's got
size to run and be a threat out of the
backfield as well. A heck of a talent, and that
offered by the Longhorns kind of gives you an indication
of what they believe in him as well.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, and they're playing Brotherson Centennial tonight. Like we mentioned
in the last segment, talking about the by district round
here in the area. But let's shift our focus to this,
to this game and what it means. We haven't talked
about the college football playoff rankings just yet. You and
I see Jay, and ultimately where Texas is ranked today

(02:54):
won't matter unless they win at least two of these
next three games. But I noticed, you know you wrote,
but the committee got it right in terms of the
top ten teams overall and the placement of the two
loss teams, Notre Dame at nine followed by Texas at ten.
Why is that?

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I just think Notre Dame has done a better job
this year playing high level, consistent football.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
And you know you point to the losses. You know
both teams have lost. The teams you know inside the
top fifteen. Obviously, the Florida lost six out you point
to on the Texas side the two wins in the
top fifteen over Vanderbilt in Oklahoma, and Notre Dame does
not have that yet you look at the consistent body
of work. In my opinion, Notre Dame's allowed fourteen points
or more just one time. Going back to Week four,

(03:36):
They've won every single game by double digits.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
In fact, they have a margin of victory at twenty six.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
And a half points. They've been dominant as of late,
and I think.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
That that should matter, right.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Texas has had to squeak by a few games on
the road in the SEC, and I understand, you know,
the schedules aren't tit for tat right, they're not apples
to apples. But Texas has been a shaky team, and
you know, you don't really know what you're going to
get on a given weekend. Whereas at this point the season,
I feel like I have a very clear understanding that
Notre Dame's gonna, you know, find a way to to

(04:05):
be very you know, to produce on with their running
game and their quarterbacks have been playing very well.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, and they get pit this weekend. The game that
will cap that will feature some coverage from College Game
Day coming into this matchup, though, Sark has told us
that Texas is playing its best football this season in
all three phases. Would you kind of agree with that statement?
And if not, you know where is there maybe a
higher ceiling for Texas still to come.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, they're certainly playing their best on offense right now,
right and that's key going on the road. You know
what kind of uh you know, how can they play
together right with the you know, that's gonna be really key.
They had issues in Starkville, they had issues in Lexington, Gamesville,
you know, Ohio State earlier this year. Are they able
to play within themselves and not commit the pre snap penalties?
That's gonna be really important on Saturday afternoon. Defensively, they

(04:56):
can certainly improve and I think there will be a
definite improvement with the return of Michael Tapp, the vocal
mouthpiece in that type of secondary Johlan McDonald returning to
the field as well. Those are two guys at Texas
you know, gravely missed against Vanderbilt as Vanderbilt started to
come back in that fourth quarter. Uh, it's gonna be
really interesting to see how they shake out against George aufense,

(05:16):
who can throw the football at just about anybody in
the country. That's been, you know, really a revival of
identity in Athens this year with Georgia. They're no longer
that defensive led team. It's been gunderstocked in that running
game leading away.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, I was gonna let's start there. I mean, Georgia
offense versus Texas defense. Is this the best unit that
the other has seen this year when those two are
on the field, Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
You know, there's a lot of talent, of course, and
you know their marquee names come to play. Uh, it's
gonna be a big test this weekend. And that's what
one thing I know that if you look back at
where both teams stand at the at the.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Point, you know, currently tracts a fighting for.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Their playoff Lise and Georgia's fighting for their sec wides.
So there's plenty at stake this weekend. And you know,
between Kirby and Sark.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I don't know which one right now has.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
The upper hand going into tomorrow, but I do know
that Kirby's had the upper hand between the last couple
of meetings.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, a lot gets talked about with that, and I
asked Craig about this earlier. Both coaches all week long
have downplayed, right, the impact of last year for Texas,
downplaying the revenge factor for Georgia. Kirby said, you heard
right before the break he said, this team, this team
didn't beat Texas twice and Texas has it faced this team.

(06:38):
How much of that is just coach speak and motivational
tools and how much of that is really a valid
thing that this is a clean slate.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, I think it is a clean slate.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
And you know, for Kirby Smart, one of the best
motivators in the game. Right now, he's going to believe
or make the belief of his team that they haven't
accomplished anything against this Texas team. They should be just
as hungry as Game one last year or whenever they
walked into DKR as a touchdown underdog in touchas with
the number one team in the country.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Obviously things are flipped.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
But you know, there's there's no more to sign the
point to than Kirby Smart and his team after going
back to back at National champions getting on the podium
and saying that nobody believed in the Georgia Bulldogs that year, right,
they were only the preseason.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Number one, had just won a national title.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
And yet that was somehow the belief and happened. I
believe that they're gonna have a very similar mindset and
hunger coming into this game tomorrow. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Do you ever tell yourself that you were picked to
go six and six when you need a little extra
kick in the pants.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, I think that that's exactly what. You know, Kirby's
done a great job.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Of credit to him.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, And I mean, look, this is a game that
I think all neutral college football fans are excited about.
People around the SEC were watching both this and I
think the game between Alabama and Oklahoma. What part of this,
as as just a football fan, are you most looking
for to on Saturday night?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, I think it's the crowd, right, the atmosphere playing
in the SEC at night.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
You know, it's something that Texas has had the.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Luxury of doing, you know a few times this year.
And let me tell you my trip to the games
will to play.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
In the swamp.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
And as that game got towards the night, boy was
it rocking. So I'm excited for that. I think two
Marquee teams, two Marquee franchises, two teams that have been
in contention for a national championship. Playing under the lights
is going to be great for not just the SEC,
but for college football. So to add that atmosphere aspect
into it, it's going to be electric. It's going to
be something that I think a lot of folks are

(08:34):
going to tune into from around the country. And you know,
if everything goes well for Texas, you know that's going
to be quite a state you're able to pull away
with it.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
As for this Texas offense, you've got to ask Sark
on Monday about the quick screen game, which is almost
substituted in for the run at times. It's also be
helped Texas get some explosive plays. But against this really
quick athletic front seven, I think you pointed out that's
a really interesting matchup for Sark to have to deal with.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, it absolutely is.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
And you try to do it twice a year ago
didn't have much success. Trying to use it against Ohio
State a little bit this.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Year didn't have much success.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
If you're going to substitute the run game, you be
able to block on the outside Touches has found a
rhythm obviously over the last two weeks, and it'd be
huge if that rhythm carries over to Athens on Saturday.
The big thing for me is, especially in the running game,
Tuxas likes to use utilize that outside zone game. Right,
you're running more east to west before cutting it up
the field to go north to south. You know, against

(09:31):
the team with the speed of a Georgia linebacking.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Unit, that's very difficult.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
So I know Texes has changed around some of it's
starting five on the offensive line. We'll see, of course,
you know, if that translates to more success in.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
That state of the game.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
But I'm really eager to see if they have more
success against this herby smart defense versus what they had
two years twice a year ago.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, I mean we heard Sark talk with Craig Way
earlier about how this is this is still a Georgia defense,
right despite some of the underlying stats maybe not looking
the same as years passed in terms of you know,
points per drive they're giving up. Going into that Mississippi
State game, their stats were identical to the Mississippi States.
How much do you read into that and how much
do you think this Georgia defense maybe works a little

(10:16):
differently than last year's.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, it's not a Georgia defense that we've come to
know over the last six years.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
It's it quite simply is not right.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
They're in the one hundred and twenties right now in
sax and tackles for the loss. However, you know, they
find ways to bend and not break, and they've completely
revamped what their identity is defensively, right, it's not giving
up the big play, it's not allowing teams to score
early and quickly. You're gonna have to grind every single
yard out. They just don't have the takeaways, they don't
have the turnovers, and they don't have the big habit

(10:46):
plays that create negative losses. And they still out athlete
a lot of teams. And I think that's what folks forget, right.
You know, it's still a Georgia team of Georgia talent
on that side of the ball. It's just very young
and so they're still developing and growing into their own
At the moment, they're just potentially not you know, boasting
the five or six first and second round draft picks
on that side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
This year.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
However, and I don't want to sound like I'm, you know,
completely saying that this side of the ball isn't isn't talented.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
It is.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
It just hasn't clicked so far to the level that
we've seen with previous Georgia teams.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
We're talking with CJ. Vogel from on Texas Football. Do
you do you expect there to be a lot of
points in this game?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah? I think so.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
I think this is a Texas offense that's clicking right now.
Of course, we'll we'll see how that translates to the
Georgia defense. But defensively, Texas been very shaky in the
back end, and then that's exactly where Gunner stocked in.
That Georgia defense has been successful. So I'm looking at
exactly those two sides saying, hey, it might be two
teams in the thirties, which is probably not what anybody

(11:50):
really expected between a Kirby Smart led defense and what
we've come to know this Texas defense has over the
last two years.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
What do you make of the season Gunner stocked in
had He's been He's been ultra efficient, He's taken care
of the ball, but he hasn't exactly hit a ton
of explosive plays through the air right.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Now, not particularly, but he's done a fine job of
doing what is needed to move the chains. And he's
a gritty quarterback. You don't hear that all too often,
but this is a guy that's going to lower his
shoulder and find ways to get three or four extra
yards to make it second in two or third and
one and put the team in a position to continue drive.
And I give Gunner stocked in a lot of credit

(12:32):
Patch fans thought obviously latter in the SEC Championship. Then
he can take some hits and board does he get
up quickly ready for the next play? And I think
a lot of what the Georgia offense, you know, kind
of strives off of is that exact mentality. So you know,
Gunner's basically the engine that runs the car that is
the Georgia offense. And well, let's hope it's not one
going twenty over the speed limit like they do in

(12:53):
Athens very often. But to the point being is he
is a very very impressive quarterback so far this year
and has a key to a lot of what my
expectations were coming in CJ.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Better be, Better Be careful on your way to it
from the stadium tonight, but we certainly appreciate your time
before you go. Where can we follow you during the game?
Social media pre and post? And also do you have
a prediction you can share? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Absolutely, you can find me on Twitter. Has to for
otfor at on Texas football dot com. And you know
I've stuck with Texas by a field goal. We'll see
if that holds true tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
So high scoring Texas by a field goal, that's what
you're going with to the Longhorns on the road.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, this time Texas makes those field goals.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
We certainly appreciate it, and I appreciate the tough memories
of the SEC championship game there as well. CJ. Vogel
from on Texas Football. Always fun to catch up enjoy
the games tonight.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Thanks you very much.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Up next here on the Craig Ways Show on this
Friday afternoon, and trust me, we will talk much more
about this Texas Georgia game. Pretty much all a lot
of Longhorn fans can can think about, probably when they
woke up this morning until the kickoff at six point
forty nine tomorrow. By the way, you can hear that
game right here on thirteen hundred Zone and on caveat

(14:15):
ninety eight to one FM, part of the Longhorn Radio Network.
But we're going to take a little break from that
and have some sports tie ins with Inconceivable next on
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