November 30, 2023 • 43 mins
Killer Mike Came through the Cruz Show to talk about his 3 Grammy Nominations + How much he really wants to win the Grammy for best Rap Album. He also talked a lot about his upbringing & how his mom gave him the courage to rap. He also talked about Mexicans in ATL & an unfinshed Andre3000 song.
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Hold on till the float out youare ready. No, no, I'm
a minute. That's moving on,binges. I promise my oping my ankles
and it ain't nothing I took outhoping this block. I'm a dog.
I'm a dirty dog. I'm gonnahear from Adam Obama. Feel I chill,
help us call me black and I'mscrew player. I crime, I
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focus his crime. Broab with thecrime and six climb my more than the
boom of a beautiful team. Iam a beautiful, wonderful thing. I
am a king, my woman,the queen rest of my heart said,
were the dog y'all killing mic Ison the cruise show back on the Michael
is here? What's up? Man? S's up? My guy? How
are you? Brother? I'm happyto be here, happy to be We're
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happy to have you. Man.By the way that intro DJ fuse right
there, let me tell you somethinghuge. Just thank you, because man,
you hear a lot of kids cango and just piece stuff together their
computers. God bless them. It'samazing. But hearing cuts as it comes
in. Man, it's just man, it's time. It's it man,
it's it's what the nine year ame I always dreamed of. Thank you,
suspect the DJ, and I respectthe DJ expected that. Shots after
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my DJ track started, DJ shackStar be calling me like, man,
I picked up two gigs. I'dbe like, my job is done.
If you're if your DJ can makemoney when you're not on the road,
you've done your job, shouting outyour DJ sending your kids off to college.
Kill the mike is here? Man, What what an honor? What
a pleasure? Man? Grammy nominatedthree times. Congratulations, Thank you so
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much. I want to bring ithome, though I ain't gonna ain't gonna
act like you know, I madethe playoffs, but I ain't want to
ring. I want the ring,you want the ring. I'll know somebody
on the board, nudge them orjust out there in public, make a
heck of a lot of noise aboutit. Yeah, I think DJ head
might be on the board. Yeah, we're listening. We're up for best
Rap Song, Best Rap Performance,and that's that's Scientist and that's but the
one I want. I'm not evengonna be shot about it. Best Rap
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Album. Well, I know why, because there's so much truth, there's
so much pain, there's so muchgrip. I don't tell them. I
don't want to tell them. Youknow, it's yours and I don't want
it. And in fact, ify'all out there listening, I don't want
to tell them. I want y'allto tell listen. This blood that spills
out of this project, it's crazy. It's what rap is supposed it is,
what's his rap music, It's whatwe grew up on with, is
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what it's supposed to evolve into.You know. You know. In twenty
nineteen, Nip was God Bless theDead right our brother. He was nominated
for Best Rap Album. Yeah,didn't win, lost to Cardi ban Have.
He was very classy about it.Are we are we expecting a classy
No? I love Cardi. I'ma Cardi fan, but I'm saying,
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don't expect grace out of me,and not because I care. I'm gonna
tell y'all son out there today.I've seen rappers time and time again win
this award and say well I shouldhave got Best Pop Album. Why I
should have got an album the yearbecause they want the accreditation they deserve from
the bigger audience. But I care. I care about the rap audience that's
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listening. I care about the kidsthat are now sixty something years old,
started in the parks in nineteen fiftythree. I care that they know that
their legacy is in good hands.I cared it the kids in the late
seventies, early eighties with everybody fromGramdmass Flash and Furious Five, the sugar
Hill Game, the Run DMC andthe Fab Boys. I care that y'all
care that that y'all know some kidswas listening. I care that knobs,
who I'm nominated against, knows thatwhat you gave me an Ell mattck and
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it was written. I took itand I nurtured it over thirty years,
and I grew it in the sunthat can be competitive with you. I
care. I care about the rapalbum of the year. I win this.
This is a life highlight to me. This ain't just well I could
have gotten the other one. Ishould have gotten the other one. This
is this is this is absolutely oneof the pinnacles. This is what it
means that much to me. Yeah. Absolutely, And I love hearing that.
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You know some artists you asked themand it's a God's a trophy whatever,
right, And I think they maybe suppressing their excitement. You ain't
gonna see no pictures of me peingon and I ain't gonna be using it
as a doorstopper. And know whatthat I and I say that, Well,
now I won't even do that becausethe first one I won, I
spent a heck of a verse ona song called the Whole World. I
certainly deserved it. I don't haveno qualms with it. But I gave
it directly to my grandmother. Itnever saw my house and and my girl.
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She she died on me, likeeleven years ago. But there's a
picture that Jonathan Manning, the greatesthip hop photographer, greatest, one of
the great photographers ever. Jonathan tooka picture of me and her her living
room. She said hold on,baby, and she left and she came
back with a wig on and ate fen and I like wrapping shirt.
It's a very famous picture. Peoplehave seen it, and it having the
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ability to walk away with one,two or three. And I want that
rap album of the Year Grammy towalk away. It's just to me an
honorarium to her to say it workedout, Betty, Yes, you,
baby girl worked out so for me. I wanted for those for those selfish
reasons too. I want to putone next to hers and said, I
did it again. Oh yeah,oh yeah. Are we thinking about our
attire as well? That I'm goadressed like a villain in a bad guy
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movie. You gonna see me ina big tucks you know. My man,
my man, Chris, my man, Chris Grace. Christopher gra Is
actually the guy who responsible dressed meover there in the corner. He got
me looking sharper these days. Sothe Christmas the same induced me to him,
shouts out there. Yeah, man, so Michael the album cover,
let's talk about it. That's ayoung Michael. Yeah, nine years old,
but nine years old, right,I see the halo, I see
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horns. Yeah, yeah, it'schievous little dude. Man, here was
genious, little dude. We allwere right, We were. That was
That was the beauty of it.That was Yeah, I was out.
Things were happening with our body.Yeah. I don't know what I like
more. At one point g IJoe or Playboy, Like I literally would
be playing with my g I Joeand that one Playboy you snuck from your
uncle and stuff. You were like, you were like damn death stro tits,
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you know what? I mean youremember when you first found cinemax like
skinner mask. Yes, yes,yes, yes, I remember I first
found my dad's porn tapes and I'mjust like, WHOA is this the mom
we were not around. I founda tape and that said office party,
and I popped it in. Itwas a different times, different kind of
party. Yeah, but that's whatI often, you know, think they
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think as you get hit with hiphop being fifty, you know people now,
people at thirty, forty and fiftystill like really rap rap rap.
But man, it's so much therhyme about in terms of the times.
You can't We came up in thetime of Porky's looking the two LIVEE Crew
w and and look what you've evolvedinto a house dad, half built muscle
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car sitting on the sofa, wereturning the ol Bundy. That's a lot
to all day. Man, it'sall that the same man, My O
G's out there. Man, Man, don't don't you know we we got
some friends. We don't even rememberwhat gray hair looked like on them.
They died so young. So takeyour muscle cars out on the weekend and
cruise and put on your fitt ofcap, your nikes, cruise around your
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babies and tell your old ladies.Stand in the middle of the living room
floor and Dan's you know, don'tdon't don't let that nine you'ear old and
you die. Yeah, man,you know on the project you talk about
suffrage, right, was there?Therapy? Was there? I see a
therapist. But music is my therapy, you know, Like I see like
I pop up out of a blackwoman who really understands to plight the black
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mail them and out my community.And I have to talk to her just
because you don't want your head toburst sometimes. But ultimately, my therapy
as an artist is translating whatever emotionsI feel into art. You know.
The ultimate theorist is me to getit out so I can stand away from
it and walk and look at it. So, you know, I thank
God for putting music in my lifebecause it has been the ultimate therapy.
Man. And what you do,what you install in these fans of yours.
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You know you said this off air, they're a different breed and they
really are. They really are.These are fans that become bigger than my
fans. I call them supporters,you know, fans. When fans cut
off, you'll run fans all summerwhile you're hot. The minute it gets
cold with your wife, say andturn the fantom. But a supporter is
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someone who's there. They become asystem and and it turns into a relationship
of supporting one another. You knowwhen you when you walk in the room
and see a Run the Jewels Tshirt, man, you smile because you
know you're a member of a fraternity. You know, a sorority. The
other peor might not. You know, fight club. First rule of fight
club. I'm talking like club,you know what I mean. And I
have been so many places where that'shappened. I took my children down to
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his private beach down in Florida.So the whole weekend, I'm down there
and I'm kicking it and like nobodyknows me, and I'm just like,
man, this is pretty cool.Like I'm just getting to be regular lame
dad. And we go on arestaurant we eat the end of the night.
Man large gay white guy. Man. You can tell whatever class he
was in, he was the oddkid out. As were walking out the
door, he says, Mike,I said, look at him. He
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says, I love Running Jewels.I give him the biggest hug, I
say, man, I love you. I think his hand was like paining
ky at. But it just meantsomething to me that this guy is a
member of the fraternity of jewel Runners. Like we have so many different types
of people and Michael. My albumis really just an origin story to the
to the character that's killed Mike.And this j nine year old kid states
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in his head, I want tobe the baddest him see in the world
that evolves into it, you know, and to kill a mic. And
and I look out in the audiencesand it's very black Atlanta American experience.
That's a worker class experience, regardlessof ase. But but I wrote it
from the perspective of who I amas black kid whow up in Atlanta.
It resonates with people of all differentraces that these nationality, sexual origins and
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and I'm and I'm just like,man, thank you, like looking at
the university and thank you because itmakes it makes sense. The beat selection
is crazy, thank you. We'rejust talking about and R is it here?
So the beat sound customs for you, that's what certain scripts are written
for certain we did. That's exactlywhat happened here. It took us two
and a half years to make.It won't take us as long to make
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the next one. But it tooka while. Yeah, it took a
while because because it had to beit had to be perfect. I've had
a successful tenure run with Run theJewels that that is that is still running.
So I couldn't do anything that damagedthe quality. I couldn't do anything
that took away from the story.And I had to. I couldn't mimic.
You didn't want to just go takeyour sound you're already known for and
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say well, let's do a cheaperyou know who's the next LP. And
I didn't want to do it that. I wanted to do something that felt
like whoa, and it was gonnablow people away. So we got the
beats. We only if we didn'twrap on it in forty If I didn't
wrap on it rather than the firstforty seconds, we weren't keeping a beat.
The beat got pushed. So wecame up with thirty nine records,
came up with thirty nine records,and then trim those records down to like
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fourteen. And the thing was whenwe got it to where we got it
to in terms of the ceiling itwas one of the greatest mixtapes you've ever
heard, and then I remember it. No, I detail, you call
him whenever you're ready and do therecord. We called him. We flew
out here, and then he taughtus this is how you make a superior
mixtape, an instant, timeless classicand the generation entity. So you know,
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whether it was Aaron Allen Kine orLeana Bird Miles on the vocals,
whether it was Dame on the bassor god Paid on the guitar, we
went with a cast all the waythrough, like a godfather. You know,
scientists and engineer's crazy man, thankyou, holy shit, it's an
amazing I'm on now man Future,Andre three thousand Onngreon, Faunilyngeon, Faundly
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like Yo, and then you know, Andre thirty thousand drops the Fluid album
right out till everybody got blessed,congratulating, congratulations. Crazy status is still
out here, right. But youhear that verse, you hear other verses,
and then you hear them say,you know, I just I don't
know if I have anything to give. Sure you have a lot. Yeah,
as a friend. As a friend, I'll just be like, damn
boy, I'd be like damn youdenying these people. But but if you
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need good dope, I'm the onlyone with it. If you're looking for
that stats packed baby that Michael,so you know, and I got one
more so you hold and on.But yeah, yeah, we got a
record together. It's about Charlemagne saidit was sixteen minutes, but it's actually
about eleven. It's an eleven minuterecord. But it's me. It's me
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and Stacks. I got Oh that'scrazy man. Congratulations, Michael is crazy.
Thank you so much, crazy manwork we work in. The Lux
version is available as well the Deluxeout. I would advise people to get
the Deluxe to deLuce the one.Yeah, well I love them both.
But if you don't get the DeLux, you're gonna have to buy it twice
because the Deluxe Records record could havebeen nineteen records, but we trimmed it
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to fourteen. Yeah, because Iwanted to make sure we were making The
Godfather one. So the Deluxe givesyou Godfather one point five and Michael two
is gonna be like the Godfather too. I'm here to make a perfect trifecta
of audio video experiences. I wantyou to close your eyes and see a
movie over fifty minutes. What Godfathercharacter are you? I'm Michael. Oh
yeah, I mean it makes sense. Yeah. I got a question for
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nine of you on Michael. Yeah, what do you think inspired or triggered
you to have such an imagination tobecome killer Michael? My mother Denise,
God bless her soul. She's asixteen year old girl. When she had
me, they encouraged her to dropout of school and have me and come
back after I was had. Sherefused until three days ago. I didn't
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even know that. Me and mygrandmother had always said to me, you
know, I don't care because sheraised me. Hurt my mother, didn't
you know? She asked my motherto raise me, and she would say
to me, you know you loveand honor your mother. I don't care
how you feel about her or whatargument you guys are going through, because
she could have had an abortion.And that was my grandmother. She was
an old country lady, and Iused to be like this, but I
found out for my aunt, mygrandmother's sister, three days ago. My
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grandmother and her all nurses, sothey all, you know, medical professionals.
When abortion became legal, my grandmotherhad at some point considered it an
option that my daughter get an abortionso she can go on the liver Full
life. And my Auntie says,way up, and Betty didn't kill you.
Now, I'd always heard the storythat Denise chose not to, but
my aunt helped me realize that mygrandmother could have said no, you're going
to have an abortion. And whenso my song Slummer that pops up when
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I had to do that. It'srelevant in the way that I didn't understand,
and I just meant to honor mygrandmother. Yeah, man, my
mother. She was the reason thatI became an artist because when I came
to her and told I wanted tobe in MC, she was smoking a
joint. She pulled it out ofher mouth, bluw some smoke, said
fuck it, let's go. That'sreal. That's nineteen eighty nineteen eighty four,
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she said, wow. And that'sthat support. That's all you need,
right, That's all the kids needis confidence, especially to people out
there with children that are not thepredominant whatever in your section. All your
children need is the confidence to knowthat they're competent to accomplish anything, and
anything is possible, you know,trying to limit children early is it is
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to me, the biggest barrier toindividual and collective success. I believe that's
it. It is. It isabsolutely like if if your kids walking,
it's like when their baby, they'regonna fall and you got to you gotta
accept that all the way through lifeand encourage them the whole way through.
My oldest son is a skater.He asked me to buy some skateboard at
nine years old. I had noidea why, but I had heard that
Paul Rodriguez did it for Paul Junior, so I did it too. And
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my son to this day is oneof the most decent, integrity field human
beings I've ever known, because thatcommunity that helped me raise them because I
was on the road is filled withthose kind of people. Yeah you know,
yeah, yeah, there's a brotherhoodthere, absolutely. Yeah. It's
love and they you know, theylook out for each other skaters. He
was just out here with Tony Hawk. Tony had called me doing the X
Games or whatever, just like hey, that that that date with Malik just
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to hang out and skate. Man, I got you. I was like,
really, was like, yep,He's just sent them out. He's
sitting the out of the kid gotthe hang of the X game, and
I was just like, what,Yeah, that's the hell. That's the
hell of a story. You knowwhat I meant the juice, Yeah,
like you know, girl, seehis kids grew up skating. You guys
were skating. It was a bigpart of Yeah for sure. I mean,
you gotta let them explore because they'regonna find out what they don't like
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as well. Absolutely, and ifyou box them in then they'll never figure
out what they don't like. Andthey may play soccer from five to ten.
But then at ten realized this shipain't for me and go find basketball
and then have more passions. Iwas supposed to be a b boy.
I just couldn't figure out that backspitto save my chubby life. Man and
a man to give up. Shaqcan do a Winfield. I'm just like
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the physics of Shaquille O'Neill junior canstill break. Yes. I'm just like,
what's wrong with God? Is likeI meant you to be a rat,
you know? But then you seethose two chubby kids. It's two
Latino brothers that got to be intheir forties. Davy right there killing it,
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man, I'm killing it. I'mjust like God is just you're going
to be gray. Thank your God. That's right. What's up, Legend?
No, First of all, thankyou for those that beautiful message.
Someone's gonna watch that and it inspirethem to the truth themselves. At what
point do you realize in your lifethat being who you are you is a
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superpower? Man? You know what? Like, I think on some level
I'm still accepting that because I didn't. I just my grandmother just told me
that's what you're supposed to do.So the person I am is based on
these two old people that really supposedto be chilling and enjoying their retiring and
then you know, the last year, they just poured all into me and
two little girls and two of mysisters, and I just I don't.
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I haven't realized it was a superpower because I never used it. Well,
I guess it is because I tryto use whatever charm or grace or
or gravity is given to me tohelp a greater community of people. But
I guess, you know, Idon't think I'm I don't think I'm extraordinary.
I think I'm more like Bruce Wayne, you know, I think I'm
a regular guy trying to do good, you know what I mean, having
to mess around, trip into somemoney. But you know, some days
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I feel like the joker, youknow, I just want to let everybody
know it's a sham, you know, and burn it to the ground.
But I also, like, Idon't ever I'm not picking up a vibe.
I don't think you've ever had thatvibe of trying to be someone you're
not. You're just you. Well, when you're a kid, though you
aspire to be that, you know, to other stuff. So you know,
I went through my eras of oneto be other things and then you
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try it, and like you saidabout the kids, you're like, what
it's saint me? You know whatI mean. Like I saw drugs,
but I ain't a drug dealer,you know what I mean. You know
what I mean, I'm not.I'm not. I knew it, like
I still care it guilt and orremorse from me that I knew i'd have
at sixteen when I wanted them joy. Wow, you know what I'm saying.
But I let my warant for thoseJordan supersede my morality, you know
what I'm saying. So and sonow this age, that's what I rap
about you know what I'm saying.So you've forgiven yourself for those I have.
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I mean because we the none ofus knew, like the parents that
got addicted, to people out therewhose parents and aunts and uncles may have
been addicts and stuff. They didn'tknow. They was listening to Donna Summer
or the Gap Band and chilling andsomeone said you want to do online and
they didn't know that their genetics wouldpredispose them, or their sensitivity would predispose
them become addicts. So you know, you got to forgive them so that
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you can learn how to deal withyour children, because your children are generational
children that are being prescribed drugs earlier. Your children are children in which codine
and oxycott and a lot of theirparents have done these things and now the
kids don't understand them. I havea predisposition to addiction, Like I remember
seeing all my children now like,hey, you're one of your grandparents was
an addict. And I need youguys to understand that even if something as
simple as alcohol is gonna affect youjust because it's something I've had, Yeah,
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exactly, So that yeah, soyou know with me, man,
it's shit. What the guy said, us on. We just ordinary people,
man, you know, so Itry, I try my best to
stay in there, but I understandwhat power comes to responsibility, so I
try to give it out and Ijust try to stand couraging folks, and
I accept encouragement. So I appreciatey'all. Yeah, man, Yeah,
so y'all on Michael ty Dollar ison it. Yeahlast on it. Yes,
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thank you. Ma Fouche came inand showed love. Man. It
was an amazing the amount of peoplecash page. The amazing cause I didn't
know any of these people. Iwas already fans of Tie Blast, I
admit, and became a fan ofmy man Will He sent me his record.
You know, Man, Horses inmy Stable almost got me put out
my house by Tie Like that record, I just wouldn't stop playing. But
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that's if you guys hadn't heard that, that's one to hear. But for
me, man, the outpoint,whether it was Black or or Jock Queeze
or t I h I d thesepeople heard the album and literally said I
want to be here, I wantto be there. You know, it
wasn't It wasn't where I had tochase or convinced as much as they found
some sort of type of inspiration andlit themselves. So I just wholeheartedly just
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say thank you and I appreciate youto them, you know, I really
do. Everybody came through, Yeah, and everybody hit it out the park.
Yeah, bro, they really didthat. I think back to the
all day. I dream about sexright and that drop and that run.
I remember that run. I metyou during that run as well in Vegas
at a radio station I was workingat. And it's a different killer Mike.
Yeah, yeah, I mean thatwasn't my record. I was like,
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well, sure, but yeah,there's growth there. Yeah exactly.
I was a kid. I waslike, you know, I kid,
Yeah I did. I didn't andI wasn't, you know, particularly bad
at disrespect. I just didn't.I was. It was the lights for
all my eyes wide open. Idon't know what the hell I was doing.
Yeah, what I was doing,and correct me if I'm wrong,
But I think there was a littlechip on your shoulder, there was.
I mean, I was being forcedto do a record that I didn't want
to do. I was being Iwas. I was. I was misunderstood
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by the major label I was at, like I said, coming there,
and they have to smile and kickwith y'all. But right before that,
the label tell you gotta change yourname. They're never going to accept killer
Mike. And then you know,eight years later you're doing I mean ten
years later, you're doing a BernieSanders campaign and the same people coming to
you like kill him. Like Ijust think it's amazing you overcame the name
and like it was never anything toovercome stupid. You just aren't confident enough
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in it to walk in the roomand say it with your chest out.
You know what I'm like, ifthe representatives meeting you, they got to
walk in with the full confidence andseal this artists. And I just realized
I wasn't getting that, and Iwas frustrated, and I was you know,
I was different because I because Ididn't know how to fully beat me
or you know, and I didn'tI hadn't found there was a lot to
figure out, yep. And nowit's figure it out and and and because
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what you really figured out you neverfigured it out, But you got to
be the truest version of who youare at the time. That's the superpower
the man. You know, whenyou talk about your mom, you have
this like glow to your face.And it's also like so refreshing to have
someone in here that's like so aboutrap and being genuine about What do you
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think your mom would think about this? My mommy Denise uh miss sounded Pepper.
My mom was a was a florist, a lover of disco and bands,
and a drug trafficking amazingly brave womanshe was. She was. That
was my girl, shes like shejust My mom taught me how to dance
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with a girl. She taught me, she taught me how you approach a
girl. She taught me like likelike, I remember the Game, man,
I remember listening to Luke and thetwo Live Crew with my mom.
So when people are complaining about,like about music that's out there and I'm
just I asked him, like,do you listen to music with your kid?
Now? You know you're not gonnalisten to every record. But how
I found out about Sexy Rader isexactly the same way my mom found outout
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Luking two loved Crust shit with mydaughter. I'm sitting with my daughter,
my oldest daughter, she's twenty six. Now, I'm like, NA,
what you're listening to? I alwaysask the kids what they listening to?
Because your kids gonna put you on. She said, I said, what
you what you don't want to tellme? She said, I don't know
if I should play with for you, daddy, And I said, and
she got daddy. I said,play it for me, girl, my
pink, my taul Brown. Iwas like, wow, that's interesting.
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She's being very truthful. And Iwas like Jack, I was smiling me
and her giggling laugh. I say, because when we're in the car with
the Bonus Mamas, we're laughing,I say, I said, I like
it. I said, let metell you story of your grandma. I
said, I'm about in the seventhgrade. I'm playing Luca in the two
Live Crew and and and my momsays, she gets back in her car
and I turned it down, andshe said, no, turn it back
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up. And at some point theysample an old comedy record that one of
my grandmother's had, where like mom'sMabel, if somebody says such such I
hit you. No, it waslike it was a guy he said,
I hit you in your head withnine inches of limp dick. And so
when you remember that, and mymom looks at me and says, shit,
I want to see that nigga.Hey, and I'm looking at my
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twenty my mom is like twenty seventythis point. I'm like, you crazy,
right. But she was my friend. She was my artistic like sharpener.
We listened to Salt and Pepper together. We listened to rock sand chante
together. She liked female them.We listen to Latifa together. So I
just I missed my girl. OnSundays, I just go to her house,
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pull up and we sit on theback of the truck of the car
to trump and just play music andjust and just call you know. So
I glow when I talked to you. My greatest she's my greatest is friend.
That was dope. Man. Itwas dope. Man, It was
dope. Man. Wasn't even butshe man, she said, she's literally
shit. I gotta see it.I was just like, girl, you
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hell, I'm like, do mydaddy know you think of it? But
yeah, I mean, you know, parents, man, I know my
parents. I mean our parents hadkept it very real with us. Yes,
yeah, and we saw the good, bad and the ugly. Man.
You know, it's important as parentsto show kids that, man,
show them, show them you ain'tbeen perfect. The whole run, and
it'll relate to you and and stuffwill be more relatable. Nothing will make
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it perfect. But my grandparents whenthey had us, they they realized that
they were forty four and fifty fourwhen I was born. They just didn't
have time to bullshit us. Theyjust they just gave it time. It
was just it was we had fun, but they were gonna be Ma.
This is things you need to know. We got my grandmother, my sisters,
can can can can all change thebattery or tire. I can sew
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a button, a cook a meal, you know what I mean. Yeah,
it's like you won't do able todo everything you're said. I remember
I got ship face drunk in theBlue Flame, and I managed to make
it around the corner of my grandmother'shouse. And I'm asleep on a sofa
and I just I hear something likein the kitchen moving around a pan,
and I kind of crawl off thesofa and I peek in the kitchen.
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You're just like a little nine hundredsquare foot house, the same as out
here. And I look over.She has my oldest daughter at that times,
about five, standing on a milkcrate and saying that's right, baby,
you got to learn how to cookeggs, do something for yourself because
you can't depend on no man,not even get sorry drunk ass daddy.
And it becomes a road sessions.I couldn't do anything but laugh and crawl
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back to the sofa and go backto sleep. But you know, I
just I'm glad my grandparents raised usin that way. And that reminds me
of the stories that we hear aboutLegend's father. You know, let his
father use like his last breath toroast him, no his way out.
I mean, you know, hisstomach catter. It's the first time I
go meet hit him in his realfamily. Yeah, I was a love
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child, my g It's like we'rethen outside baby, Yeah, you know
my grandmother on the side, hisother family, not his real fans.
Heart fucking Sam. And he tellsme at that point, I had lost
a significant amount of weight and Iprobably put on like ten fifteen pounds.
And he the first thing he tellsme in his death that he's like,
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you stopped running hard, Danny.The man's got something cancer. At the
time, I didn't realize it,but like when I look back at that
point, I'm like this motherfucker.But you know his parents got to keep
it real with you. Man,I thought my name was bastard till I
was nine, Like, no bullshit. I was like, because my grandmother
be talking about me to her brotherand sister and Denise, Man, I
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don't know what she want to cometo see the little bastard right, And
I'm just like, what in thefucking one? So I told him and
I said, Mama, why doyou you know? Like I call my
grandmother mom, I called my mommommy. I said, why do you
why do you call me like?She looks at me, said, because
baby, that's what you're all.That's what you're. Your mom and dad
want marriage. She said, youlook in the Bible. That's y'all.
She said. Doesn't mean I don'tlove you. I love you, but
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baby, you're best. That's that. That's what exactly, that's what.
That's when the Bible and the dixMayor becamey my friends. I was like,
I gotta understand language in a waythat doesn't offend me anymore. And
and and then all my sisters myparents were married when they were born.
And I'm just like, yeah,I am truly you your mom and Grandma
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could have dropped a crazy project,man and it would how's the vegan restaurant,
man, Well, we don't havethe vegan. The vegan restaurant is
pinky shouts out the slutty vegan andher husband who owns Big Dave Cheese Steaks.
So I'm just like the hell ofa marriage. That's like George Carver,
that's like a Republican and a Democraticman. But but my wife and
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I have Bankhead Seafood. I'm inpartnership with t I. We bought a
fifty year old restaurant called Banka Seafood, and we are gonna have some vegan
options on there for you weird peoplewho hang out with with with me eaters.
I don't know why they treat y'alllike y'all the weird people. Y'all
be so cool, y'all do y'alljust got Brussels sprouts from water, and
everybody be acting like y'all shouldn't getbrussel s trouts water, you know,
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but but but but we opened rightat the first of the year. My
wife, Shae has done an amazingjob. Her and Crystal Peterson have done
an amazing job at at spearheading theproject. So it's me and are going
to get his credit. Yeah,but these two women have done it.
T I and I are though,are happy. T I. Right down
the street, not a half amile down up the street, he has
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the Trap Music Museum. So whenyou guys come to Atlanta, he has
a trap music museum, and hehas Trap Music Cafe where they do comedy
and stuff. But you can cometo bank and seafood, and then right
down the street about another mile down, he has one hundred and fifty three
unit affordable housing units he just builtout. So Atlanta man, the athletes
and entertainers there are working very hardat becoming a business class in their communities.
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And I like to challenge LA CityCouncil, LA's mayor, and the
local political and neighborhood leaders around LAto make it easier for it to make
more. Magic Johnson's and Magic Johnsonis a is a hero of mine because
I cheered for him as a kidrunning up and down a court, and
I saw the economic difference he madein my city by opening up a theater,
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opening up you know, different coffeehouses, things in that nature.
But by being a business person hegave example, to people like Big Boy,
who's an amazing business person, topeople like TII, to people like
me, and I want to challengelocal municipalities to invite athletes and entertainers to
become a part of business class andschool and mentor them and watch your cities.
You know, grown, what's inthe middle of that, What's what's
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in the way bullshit politicians, lobbyinggroups from corporations that are bigger you.
You. I hear too often frompeople what rappers and entertainer and athletes don't
do all right, So let's makeit possible for them to do it.
Let's pressure local politicians. Maynard Jacksonwas the first black mayor of Atlanta.
He made it mandatory that to dobusiness with the city of Atlanta, your
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company had to be have twenty ninepercent black interest in ownership. And all
of a sudden, and there wasa black man who's over procurement, all
of a sudden, you see anexplosion in the black middle class. We
already had a great black working classand lower middle class, but you saw
an explosion in the upper middle classas well. That's possible in any city,
but it's only possible when terms ofcontracts and procurements go to who they
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should be allocated to. The FEDShave contracts that they mandate should be the
black and brown people should be to. Small business should need to medium sized
businesses. If the people who getthe money on a state and local level
are not adamant about seeing that happen, and if we're not adamant about fostering
partnerships that see growth and development fromthe private and public sector, what we
get is the bullshit we got,and we can get better bullshit than the
(30:52):
ship we got. The bullshit wegot can be first, but the better
bullshit grow. Something like the bullshitthey got only sends them the resort meetings
and they talk about bullshit and theycome back and they say, want without
the headache. Yeah, exactly,exactly. So I want to challenge,
you know, challenge your local municipalitieshow to do that. Yeah, he
was crazy with Keith Lee. Whathappened with Keith Lee in Atlanta? Right?
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Oh? Yeah, I didn't thinkmuch about it, but yeah,
he he went out, Hey,man, there's a Chick fil A and
waffle house is successful for a reason. And I think that because both of
those are Atlanta restaurants. Yeah,and you ever been to Chick fil A?
You ever with chickilay in a badmood and left feeling better eating ship,
But they were like what's your name? Welcoming? He was like,
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damn, got everything except like ahand job. This is been amazing.
You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm just like, this is a
fucking amazing. And so I seeDutch bros. That's Dutch bros. No,
I've never been a Dutch ros isLike they will ask you about your
personal handjob from the bros. ButI loved it. I loved it.
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I loved that. I think shoutsout to Keith. I think that the
the Hinge Gym, and what hedid was that he just he just showed
us that we can always do betterin terms of customer service. And so
you know, I and I say, and I mentioned, you know,
I mentioned the Chickplan in the WhiteHouses, because these are two restaurants that
started in Atlanta. They've all sixtyseventy eighty years old maybe at this point.
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But what people love about him isthe customer service. So I just
want to say that every young businessperson. I own barbershops, a franchise
of barber shops is growing. Thefirst five years have just spent apologizing to
people and saying, hey, we'reon the strive to get better because we
had to unlearn barbers some bad habitsthey had. You know, before you
sit in our barbershaars, they're goingto be clean and white. You're not
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gonna sit down in someone else's hair. Hair is not going to be at
the floor when you sit there.You're going to how barbers are going to
wash their hands before and after youJust that type stuff. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, maybe some gloves absolutely ifyou want. I don't always like
the gloves. It feels like arubbers on my face, you know what
I mean? That's you know whatI mean, You're like, this just
went somewhere else, So I justwashed your hands from Like, why does
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it feel like a magnum is onfat finger bar your thick fingers? Man?
Yo, let's talk about real quick. Greenwood and Kenley Greenwood Man,
the importance of this. Yeah,there's there's there is, There's just a
need. Greenwood is is a isa fintech company that partners with other companies
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and banks and things, investment groupsand things of that nature to get people
who usually would be left outside theeconomic can doism circle and lets them in.
Nothing that's been as satisfying the pastfew weeks is going to a couple
gas stations and having people say no, I'm gonna pay for your Snickers bar
and your and your water when they'repull out a Greenwood card. Greenwood is
(33:44):
about to roll out some new thingsthat in the lending market that are going
to help people with unconventional business thatroom that the people in this room,
it may not be as easy toget people from the poor and working class.
So I'm very proud to be apart of Greenwood, proud of what
they've been able to do in termsof the employment staff, and they picked
up in terms of the partnership withthe gathering spot. I'm looking forward to
our growth and I want to tellpeople this. If you don't like Mike
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and if you don't like Dom greenwith if you don't find a small bank
or credit union that you do like, sure and build a relationship with them.
And the reason I say that isbecause a lot of times we live
in an era where ideologically people mightnot like who you voted for, so
they don't like nothing you ever stoodfor, right, But I want people
to understand that what I want youto do is focus on being hyper local.
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And when you do that, thebutcher shop that your parents went to
stays open because you shopped there too. And as much as I love whole
foods, I still like going ina regular vegetable truck and get my vegetables
straight off that truck. And Iknow it's cool to eat soup in your
your belinciaka sandals or your fuzzy ugsand talk in the middle of you know
whatever the latest juice bar fashion.But it's nothing like going to that old
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lady that was juicing in the eightieswhen no one cared and making sure her
business stays open. So go toyour credit unions, go to your small
banks. One United, there's ablack bank out here, one of the
largest black banks. Go to OneUnited, Go to Carver if you're if
you're out on the East Coast,go to go to these other other banks
that as well. Yeah that thesebanks are going to be the banks to
give your kid their first shot.You know what I'm saying. These banks
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are the ones that trying you howto deal with big banks. So I
just want to tell people thank youfor supporting Greenwood. The growth and exploding
has been amazing, and I wantto tell people who might not necessarily want
to be around with find something smallor medium and put your money there and
put some investment there, because it'sgoing to grow your community. Sure man,
you met Aaron briefly off? Yeah, yeah, I like that T
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Shirts guy is a fan man,Thank you. Absolutely. I discover Aun
the Jewels by working at a recordshop. I was actually hired as their
resident punk rock heavy metal guy,but most of our customers are buying hip
hop. My manager was a buddyof mine. He's a huge hip hop
and so I was like, Yo, you gotta let me know what these
people are buying. So the firstnight that he's like, all right,
I'm gonna bring you in. Im'nabring under my Way our Boston like this
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to play stuff over the PA thatwasn't like the shells like really like.
So he's like, this guy's runthe Jewels. Check this out, and
the women in the store started dancing. That's good to hear. This is
Run the Jewels, right, AndI'm like, I think I need to
know who these guys are. Andfrom then on, like it's just like
our TJ three came out, andthen of course four and then uh,
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you know, the pandemic hit andwe wanted to see you guys. And
then once this show at the tenyear anniversary Crazy it was a party every
night and it's just the people youbrought and just the vibe and like dream
come true and enjoying your drinks andjust you know, people hanging out.
So first time we do Hotel,man stoned out of my mind and someone
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says, Lars is here from Metalica. Come on, you know I'm talking
so eighty seven as a kid.All I'm listening to is in w a
metallic Yeah, you're listening right away, entertandman starts right, yeah, right
away. And I'm just like,I go from being overly confident we're about
to kill ship to oh my god, I don't have any clothes on.
(37:04):
This is this is and man,And just just just hearing him there,
knowing the watch and having him showlove was just like, oh, did
you get a chance to speak tohim, Gail? I wouldn't. Man,
we're walking, we're walking at anyEnemy Awards and we see, we
see, we see, we seeit's Jimmy or Robert from Zeppelin, we
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see and we run the steps,running and running the steps ain't easy for
me. Bub And when we getup there, but I was just sorry,
sorry, brother, you we gottaget a picture. So man,
the rock rock world has meant alot to me. Getting a chance to
open for Rage, you know whatI mean, Like like it was,
it meant the world of me.You know, I want to I want
to be able to to like justdo. What Outcast did to me was
(37:50):
so amazing. I saw them openfor Moby and and I saw them blend
audience and doing that. I thinkit's something we need to redo because in
the nineties, I feel like wehad it right. I saw Cypress and
Red Chili Peppers on the same bill, you know what I mean. And
I think that our kids, Ithink we were better off for I think
(38:10):
we were more cultured for it.So I'm glad that we were your introduction
to hip hop. I'm glad tomeet the fellow rock head because my dad
introduced me to Zeppelin and Black Sabbage, and I think he's a great you
know. I got two dads,uh and one one was the police officer,
one was the truck driver. Butthey both had great musical taste.
So my dad's introduced me to rockMan. But I just man, I'm
just glad that we already bringing togetherthe world, the community for sure,
(38:36):
after everything, we're glad to havegenres mixing, right, Like the Warped
tour, Yeah right, tours likethat we missed. I missed it.
Buy what were doing? Yes,man, yes, yes, yeah.
The Juggalo ship is a little crazyfor me, but that goes down here.
But I ain't gotta you know,I ain't gotta go to a Raiders
(38:57):
game to appreciate it because Raiders gameslike the Juggle offense, like like they
might win, they might lose.Somebody's gonna get stabbed, somebody's gonna get
Yeah. Yeah, yo. Lovewhat Dave Chappelle did on Run. That
was crazy. Thank you Dave Chappelleon that. I was, you know,
young thugs on the project. Imean, we can talk about Michael
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all day. So this is whatyou have given us, yup. I
I gave you guys my heart andsoul because and what I've realized I did
and doing that is I spoke upfor the worker class in this country.
You know, you're either hearing fromthe about the extremely rich or from the
extremely poor, and a lot ofus have been poor worker class. But
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you know, you hear from theextremes in this country. But there's there's
kids that will see students in thiscountry that never get to talk. There
are men that get up and womenthey get up every day four or five
in the morning and go to workand put it in there eight, ten,
twelve hours and lead decent, integrityfield lives. And there's no one
celebrating them like they're the champions ofthe world. And and that's what I
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want and continue to do. That'sit, man, Keep going. Man,
what's a line off of Michael thatyou just when you hear you're like,
who I said that? Ah ManMozzi said it to me a lot.
Yesterday we were together. We wereshooting something cool, but he said,
I shed tears every morning in thebathroom me or face the faith that
I had to face my fears.It was me on the reason that I
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failed. That was hell locked theself kilt like jail lord. I cried,
almost died empty inside. The devilwhispers in your ear, your contemplate
suicide. Tell me, y'all knowPromisan has been there before. But it's
pride before the fall is high.Usually go stop it man, yo,
man, Yeah, that's deep.That's deeper than rap. Man. Come
on, man, it's it's it'sa message. It's a message from the
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worker class. Every dad is withevery man women out there. In case
you think he doesn't care, hedoesn't have anything. Sometimes man, men
carry carry in our bag something soemotional it feels like you're gonna explode,
and all you can do is getin that shower or stand in front of
that mirror and let those tears fall. Was on the other side of the
doors. That women are, thosewomen and children. You're responsible for that,
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the family, that tribe you lead. So just know, man,
your dad, your uncles, yourbig bros. Like, give them some
grace because they're carrying it. Youknow, they want to do their best.
They don't always know. I alwaysknow how to be the most communicat
because sometimes you communicate, you justbreak down crime and they always safe to
cry in front of y'all. Youknow, my baby mama called me.
He says, nigga, you gonnacry on TV again and that, and
that's the one that went to collegeto graduating and then she last and says,
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we love you. We were proudof you. We appreciate it.
Yeah. Absolutely, Yo, Isthere is there any more Mexican people in
Atlanta? Yeah? Man shout shotMan shots all the brothers essays. It
was traditionally it was traditionally North likeBeaufort Highway and North was a heavy Mexican
Asian population. So if you wantedgreat Mexican food, you went north.
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But in College Park, shots outto Cap g Man, amazing Atlanta artists,
Mexican brothers, Cap and his familyrap hard. You got some great
Mexican spots like our old National It'slike a hybrid because the homies, the
Mexicans down have been there so long. It's like it's like Houston. You
know, you meant Mexicans from HoustonMexican, but it's like different, they
they they they different. Different.Yeah. And now and now on the
West side of Atlanta, because thereare a lot of jobs and industry there,
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you have Mexican families that are moviein. I just did my high
school, Frederick Douglas High School,and I did Jeane child Young Middle School,
and the kids there are blending itand getting to know each other and
showing love. So yeah, they'reMexicans in Atlanta, man, and they
kicking it, yo, Mike,we just kicked off our Eighthanyel Cruiz Cares
Toys Drive. Yeah. I wouldlove your support in any way, definitely.
So I'm big on hot wheels.That's what I tend to give them
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toy drive. So if you'd allowme to, I love the sense of
hot wheels too, amazing. Yeah, we'll take it. I got it.
Now I'm about to hear the presidentof Hot Wheels like, Yo,
we gotta give something. Volunteer usto give hot wheel benefits. So many
kids throughout Los Angeles and Girls Club, Man, it really makes a difference.
I got you, got you,and and you know mom, Mom's
out there. Man, let thelittle girls. It's la so I know
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car culture d Let the little girlsat the Hot Wheels. Yeah, that's
right, that's right. Killer Michais here, Michael. The Deluxe version
all streaming platform. Yeah. Hey, check your rich form the Cruse Show.
Thanks for listening to The Cruise Showpodcast to make sure to subscribe,
and hey, auto download so youdon't miss an episode. So so so
Hold on till the float out youare ready. No, no, I'm
a minute. That's moving on,binges. I promise my oping my ankles
and it ain't nothing I took outhoping this block. I'm a dog.
I'm a dirty dog. I'm gonnahear from Adam Obama. Feel I chill,
help us call me black and I'mscrew player. I crime, I
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focus his crime. Broab with thecrime and six climb my more than the
boom of a beautiful team. Iam a beautiful, wonderful thing. I
am a king, my woman,the queen rest of my heart said,
were the dog y'all killing mic Ison the cruise show back on the Michael
is here? What's up? Man? S's up? My guy? How
are you? Brother? I'm happyto be here, happy to be We're
(00:45):
happy to have you. Man.By the way that intro DJ fuse right
there, let me tell you somethinghuge. Just thank you, because man,
you hear a lot of kids cango and just piece stuff together their
computers. God bless them. It'samazing. But hearing cuts as it comes
in. Man, it's just man, it's time. It's it man,
it's it's what the nine year ame I always dreamed of. Thank you,
suspect the DJ, and I respectthe DJ expected that. Shots after
(01:06):
my DJ track started, DJ shackStar be calling me like, man,
I picked up two gigs. I'dbe like, my job is done.
If you're if your DJ can makemoney when you're not on the road,
you've done your job, shouting outyour DJ sending your kids off to college.
Kill the mike is here? Man, What what an honor? What
a pleasure? Man? Grammy nominatedthree times. Congratulations, Thank you so
(01:30):
much. I want to bring ithome, though I ain't gonna ain't gonna
act like you know, I madethe playoffs, but I ain't want to
ring. I want the ring,you want the ring. I'll know somebody
on the board, nudge them orjust out there in public, make a
heck of a lot of noise aboutit. Yeah, I think DJ head
might be on the board. Yeah, we're listening. We're up for best
Rap Song, Best Rap Performance,and that's that's Scientist and that's but the
one I want. I'm not evengonna be shot about it. Best Rap
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Album. Well, I know why, because there's so much truth, there's
so much pain, there's so muchgrip. I don't tell them. I
don't want to tell them. Youknow, it's yours and I don't want
it. And in fact, ify'all out there listening, I don't want
to tell them. I want y'allto tell listen. This blood that spills
out of this project, it's crazy. It's what rap is supposed it is,
what's his rap music, It's whatwe grew up on with, is
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what it's supposed to evolve into.You know. You know. In twenty
nineteen, Nip was God Bless theDead right our brother. He was nominated
for Best Rap Album. Yeah,didn't win, lost to Cardi ban Have.
He was very classy about it.Are we are we expecting a classy
No? I love Cardi. I'ma Cardi fan, but I'm saying,
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don't expect grace out of me,and not because I care. I'm gonna
tell y'all son out there today.I've seen rappers time and time again win
this award and say well I shouldhave got Best Pop Album. Why I
should have got an album the yearbecause they want the accreditation they deserve from
the bigger audience. But I care. I care about the rap audience that's
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listening. I care about the kidsthat are now sixty something years old,
started in the parks in nineteen fiftythree. I care that they know that
their legacy is in good hands.I cared it the kids in the late
seventies, early eighties with everybody fromGramdmass Flash and Furious Five, the sugar
Hill Game, the Run DMC andthe Fab Boys. I care that y'all
care that that y'all know some kidswas listening. I care that knobs,
who I'm nominated against, knows thatwhat you gave me an Ell mattck and
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it was written. I took itand I nurtured it over thirty years,
and I grew it in the sunthat can be competitive with you. I
care. I care about the rapalbum of the year. I win this.
This is a life highlight to me. This ain't just well I could
have gotten the other one. Ishould have gotten the other one. This
is this is this is absolutely oneof the pinnacles. This is what it
means that much to me. Yeah. Absolutely, And I love hearing that.
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You know some artists you asked themand it's a God's a trophy whatever,
right, And I think they maybe suppressing their excitement. You ain't
gonna see no pictures of me peingon and I ain't gonna be using it
as a doorstopper. And know whatthat I and I say that, Well,
now I won't even do that becausethe first one I won, I
spent a heck of a verse ona song called the Whole World. I
certainly deserved it. I don't haveno qualms with it. But I gave
it directly to my grandmother. Itnever saw my house and and my girl.
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She she died on me, likeeleven years ago. But there's a
picture that Jonathan Manning, the greatesthip hop photographer, greatest, one of
the great photographers ever. Jonathan tooka picture of me and her her living
room. She said hold on,baby, and she left and she came
back with a wig on and ate fen and I like wrapping shirt.
It's a very famous picture. Peoplehave seen it, and it having the
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ability to walk away with one,two or three. And I want that
rap album of the Year Grammy towalk away. It's just to me an
honorarium to her to say it workedout, Betty, Yes, you,
baby girl worked out so for me. I wanted for those for those selfish
reasons too. I want to putone next to hers and said, I
did it again. Oh yeah,oh yeah. Are we thinking about our
attire as well? That I'm goadressed like a villain in a bad guy
(04:48):
movie. You gonna see me ina big tucks you know. My man,
my man, Chris, my man, Chris Grace. Christopher gra Is
actually the guy who responsible dressed meover there in the corner. He got
me looking sharper these days. Sothe Christmas the same induced me to him,
shouts out there. Yeah, man, so Michael the album cover,
let's talk about it. That's ayoung Michael. Yeah, nine years old,
but nine years old, right,I see the halo, I see
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horns. Yeah, yeah, it'schievous little dude. Man, here was
genious, little dude. We allwere right, We were. That was
That was the beauty of it.That was Yeah, I was out.
Things were happening with our body.Yeah. I don't know what I like
more. At one point g IJoe or Playboy, Like I literally would
be playing with my g I Joeand that one Playboy you snuck from your
uncle and stuff. You were like, you were like damn death stro tits,
(05:31):
you know what? I mean youremember when you first found cinemax like
skinner mask. Yes, yes,yes, yes, I remember I first
found my dad's porn tapes and I'mjust like, WHOA is this the mom
we were not around. I founda tape and that said office party,
and I popped it in. Itwas a different times, different kind of
party. Yeah, but that's whatI often, you know, think they
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think as you get hit with hiphop being fifty, you know people now,
people at thirty, forty and fiftystill like really rap rap rap.
But man, it's so much therhyme about in terms of the times.
You can't We came up in thetime of Porky's looking the two LIVEE Crew
w and and look what you've evolvedinto a house dad, half built muscle
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car sitting on the sofa, wereturning the ol Bundy. That's a lot
to all day. Man, it'sall that the same man, My O
G's out there. Man, Man, don't don't you know we we got
some friends. We don't even rememberwhat gray hair looked like on them.
They died so young. So takeyour muscle cars out on the weekend and
cruise and put on your fitt ofcap, your nikes, cruise around your
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babies and tell your old ladies.Stand in the middle of the living room
floor and Dan's you know, don'tdon't don't let that nine you'ear old and
you die. Yeah, man,you know on the project you talk about
suffrage, right, was there?Therapy? Was there? I see a
therapist. But music is my therapy, you know, Like I see like
I pop up out of a blackwoman who really understands to plight the black
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mail them and out my community.And I have to talk to her just
because you don't want your head toburst sometimes. But ultimately, my therapy
as an artist is translating whatever emotionsI feel into art. You know.
The ultimate theorist is me to getit out so I can stand away from
it and walk and look at it. So, you know, I thank
God for putting music in my lifebecause it has been the ultimate therapy.
Man. And what you do,what you install in these fans of yours.
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You know you said this off air, they're a different breed and they
really are. They really are.These are fans that become bigger than my
fans. I call them supporters,you know, fans. When fans cut
off, you'll run fans all summerwhile you're hot. The minute it gets
cold with your wife, say andturn the fantom. But a supporter is
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someone who's there. They become asystem and and it turns into a relationship
of supporting one another. You knowwhen you when you walk in the room
and see a Run the Jewels Tshirt, man, you smile because you
know you're a member of a fraternity. You know, a sorority. The
other peor might not. You know, fight club. First rule of fight
club. I'm talking like club,you know what I mean. And I
have been so many places where that'shappened. I took my children down to
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his private beach down in Florida.So the whole weekend, I'm down there
and I'm kicking it and like nobodyknows me, and I'm just like,
man, this is pretty cool.Like I'm just getting to be regular lame
dad. And we go on arestaurant we eat the end of the night.
Man large gay white guy. Man. You can tell whatever class he
was in, he was the oddkid out. As were walking out the
door, he says, Mike,I said, look at him. He
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says, I love Running Jewels.I give him the biggest hug, I
say, man, I love you. I think his hand was like paining
ky at. But it just meantsomething to me that this guy is a
member of the fraternity of jewel Runners. Like we have so many different types
of people and Michael. My albumis really just an origin story to the
to the character that's killed Mike.And this j nine year old kid states
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in his head, I want tobe the baddest him see in the world
that evolves into it, you know, and to kill a mic. And
and I look out in the audiencesand it's very black Atlanta American experience.
That's a worker class experience, regardlessof ase. But but I wrote it
from the perspective of who I amas black kid whow up in Atlanta.
It resonates with people of all differentraces that these nationality, sexual origins and
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and I'm and I'm just like,man, thank you, like looking at
the university and thank you because itmakes it makes sense. The beat selection
is crazy, thank you. We'rejust talking about and R is it here?
So the beat sound customs for you, that's what certain scripts are written
for certain we did. That's exactlywhat happened here. It took us two
and a half years to make.It won't take us as long to make
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the next one. But it tooka while. Yeah, it took a
while because because it had to beit had to be perfect. I've had
a successful tenure run with Run theJewels that that is that is still running.
So I couldn't do anything that damagedthe quality. I couldn't do anything
that took away from the story.And I had to. I couldn't mimic.
You didn't want to just go takeyour sound you're already known for and
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say well, let's do a cheaperyou know who's the next LP. And
I didn't want to do it that. I wanted to do something that felt
like whoa, and it was gonnablow people away. So we got the
beats. We only if we didn'twrap on it in forty If I didn't
wrap on it rather than the firstforty seconds, we weren't keeping a beat.
The beat got pushed. So wecame up with thirty nine records,
came up with thirty nine records,and then trim those records down to like
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fourteen. And the thing was whenwe got it to where we got it
to in terms of the ceiling itwas one of the greatest mixtapes you've ever
heard, and then I remember it. No, I detail, you call
him whenever you're ready and do therecord. We called him. We flew
out here, and then he taughtus this is how you make a superior
mixtape, an instant, timeless classicand the generation entity. So you know,
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whether it was Aaron Allen Kine orLeana Bird Miles on the vocals,
whether it was Dame on the bassor god Paid on the guitar, we
went with a cast all the waythrough, like a godfather. You know,
scientists and engineer's crazy man, thankyou, holy shit, it's an
amazing I'm on now man Future,Andre three thousand Onngreon, Faunilyngeon, Faundly
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like Yo, and then you know, Andre thirty thousand drops the Fluid album
right out till everybody got blessed,congratulating, congratulations. Crazy status is still
out here, right. But youhear that verse, you hear other verses,
and then you hear them say,you know, I just I don't
know if I have anything to give. Sure you have a lot. Yeah,
as a friend. As a friend, I'll just be like, damn
boy, I'd be like damn youdenying these people. But but if you
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need good dope, I'm the onlyone with it. If you're looking for
that stats packed baby that Michael,so you know, and I got one
more so you hold and on.But yeah, yeah, we got a
record together. It's about Charlemagne saidit was sixteen minutes, but it's actually
about eleven. It's an eleven minuterecord. But it's me. It's me
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and Stacks. I got Oh that'scrazy man. Congratulations, Michael is crazy.
Thank you so much, crazy manwork we work in. The Lux
version is available as well the Deluxeout. I would advise people to get
the Deluxe to deLuce the one.Yeah, well I love them both.
But if you don't get the DeLux, you're gonna have to buy it twice
because the Deluxe Records record could havebeen nineteen records, but we trimmed it
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to fourteen. Yeah, because Iwanted to make sure we were making The
Godfather one. So the Deluxe givesyou Godfather one point five and Michael two
is gonna be like the Godfather too. I'm here to make a perfect trifecta
of audio video experiences. I wantyou to close your eyes and see a
movie over fifty minutes. What Godfathercharacter are you? I'm Michael. Oh
yeah, I mean it makes sense. Yeah. I got a question for
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nine of you on Michael. Yeah, what do you think inspired or triggered
you to have such an imagination tobecome killer Michael? My mother Denise,
God bless her soul. She's asixteen year old girl. When she had
me, they encouraged her to dropout of school and have me and come
back after I was had. Sherefused until three days ago. I didn't
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even know that. Me and mygrandmother had always said to me, you
know, I don't care because sheraised me. Hurt my mother, didn't
you know? She asked my motherto raise me, and she would say
to me, you know you loveand honor your mother. I don't care
how you feel about her or whatargument you guys are going through, because
she could have had an abortion.And that was my grandmother. She was
an old country lady, and Iused to be like this, but I
found out for my aunt, mygrandmother's sister, three days ago. My
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grandmother and her all nurses, sothey all, you know, medical professionals.
When abortion became legal, my grandmotherhad at some point considered it an
option that my daughter get an abortionso she can go on the liver Full
life. And my Auntie says,way up, and Betty didn't kill you.
Now, I'd always heard the storythat Denise chose not to, but
my aunt helped me realize that mygrandmother could have said no, you're going
to have an abortion. And whenso my song Slummer that pops up when
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I had to do that. It'srelevant in the way that I didn't understand,
and I just meant to honor mygrandmother. Yeah, man, my
mother. She was the reason thatI became an artist because when I came
to her and told I wanted tobe in MC, she was smoking a
joint. She pulled it out ofher mouth, bluw some smoke, said
fuck it, let's go. That'sreal. That's nineteen eighty nineteen eighty four,
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she said, wow. And that'sthat support. That's all you need,
right, That's all the kids needis confidence, especially to people out
there with children that are not thepredominant whatever in your section. All your
children need is the confidence to knowthat they're competent to accomplish anything, and
anything is possible, you know,trying to limit children early is it is
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to me, the biggest barrier toindividual and collective success. I believe that's
it. It is. It isabsolutely like if if your kids walking,
it's like when their baby, they'regonna fall and you got to you gotta
accept that all the way through lifeand encourage them the whole way through.
My oldest son is a skater.He asked me to buy some skateboard at
nine years old. I had noidea why, but I had heard that
Paul Rodriguez did it for Paul Junior, so I did it too. And
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my son to this day is oneof the most decent, integrity field human
beings I've ever known, because thatcommunity that helped me raise them because I
was on the road is filled withthose kind of people. Yeah you know,
yeah, yeah, there's a brotherhoodthere, absolutely. Yeah. It's
love and they you know, theylook out for each other skaters. He
was just out here with Tony Hawk. Tony had called me doing the X
Games or whatever, just like hey, that that that date with Malik just
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to hang out and skate. Man, I got you. I was like,
really, was like, yep,He's just sent them out. He's
sitting the out of the kid gotthe hang of the X game, and
I was just like, what,Yeah, that's the hell. That's the
hell of a story. You knowwhat I meant the juice, Yeah,
like you know, girl, seehis kids grew up skating. You guys
were skating. It was a bigpart of Yeah for sure. I mean,
you gotta let them explore because they'regonna find out what they don't like
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as well. Absolutely, and ifyou box them in then they'll never figure
out what they don't like. Andthey may play soccer from five to ten.
But then at ten realized this shipain't for me and go find basketball
and then have more passions. Iwas supposed to be a b boy.
I just couldn't figure out that backspitto save my chubby life. Man and
a man to give up. Shaqcan do a Winfield. I'm just like
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the physics of Shaquille O'Neill junior canstill break. Yes. I'm just like,
what's wrong with God? Is likeI meant you to be a rat,
you know? But then you seethose two chubby kids. It's two
Latino brothers that got to be intheir forties. Davy right there killing it,
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man, I'm killing it. I'mjust like God is just you're going
to be gray. Thank your God. That's right. What's up, Legend?
No, First of all, thankyou for those that beautiful message.
Someone's gonna watch that and it inspirethem to the truth themselves. At what
point do you realize in your lifethat being who you are you is a
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superpower? Man? You know what? Like, I think on some level
I'm still accepting that because I didn't. I just my grandmother just told me
that's what you're supposed to do.So the person I am is based on
these two old people that really supposedto be chilling and enjoying their retiring and
then you know, the last year, they just poured all into me and
two little girls and two of mysisters, and I just I don't.
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I haven't realized it was a superpower because I never used it. Well,
I guess it is because I tryto use whatever charm or grace or
or gravity is given to me tohelp a greater community of people. But
I guess, you know, Idon't think I'm I don't think I'm extraordinary.
I think I'm more like Bruce Wayne, you know, I think I'm
a regular guy trying to do good, you know what I mean, having
to mess around, trip into somemoney. But you know, some days
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I feel like the joker, youknow, I just want to let everybody
know it's a sham, you know, and burn it to the ground.
But I also, like, Idon't ever I'm not picking up a vibe.
I don't think you've ever had thatvibe of trying to be someone you're
not. You're just you. Well, when you're a kid, though you
aspire to be that, you know, to other stuff. So you know,
I went through my eras of oneto be other things and then you
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try it, and like you saidabout the kids, you're like, what
it's saint me? You know whatI mean. Like I saw drugs,
but I ain't a drug dealer,you know what I mean. You know
what I mean, I'm not.I'm not. I knew it, like
I still care it guilt and orremorse from me that I knew i'd have
at sixteen when I wanted them joy. Wow, you know what I'm saying.
But I let my warant for thoseJordan supersede my morality, you know
what I'm saying. So and sonow this age, that's what I rap
about you know what I'm saying.So you've forgiven yourself for those I have.
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I mean because we the none ofus knew, like the parents that
got addicted, to people out therewhose parents and aunts and uncles may have
been addicts and stuff. They didn'tknow. They was listening to Donna Summer
or the Gap Band and chilling andsomeone said you want to do online and
they didn't know that their genetics wouldpredispose them, or their sensitivity would predispose
them become addicts. So you know, you got to forgive them so that
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you can learn how to deal withyour children, because your children are generational
children that are being prescribed drugs earlier. Your children are children in which codine
and oxycott and a lot of theirparents have done these things and now the
kids don't understand them. I havea predisposition to addiction, Like I remember
seeing all my children now like,hey, you're one of your grandparents was
an addict. And I need youguys to understand that even if something as
simple as alcohol is gonna affect youjust because it's something I've had, Yeah,
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exactly, So that yeah, soyou know with me, man,
it's shit. What the guy said, us on. We just ordinary people,
man, you know, so Itry, I try my best to
stay in there, but I understandwhat power comes to responsibility, so I
try to give it out and Ijust try to stand couraging folks, and
I accept encouragement. So I appreciatey'all. Yeah, man, Yeah,
so y'all on Michael ty Dollar ison it. Yeahlast on it. Yes,
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thank you. Ma Fouche came inand showed love. Man. It
was an amazing the amount of peoplecash page. The amazing cause I didn't
know any of these people. Iwas already fans of Tie Blast, I
admit, and became a fan ofmy man Will He sent me his record.
You know, Man, Horses inmy Stable almost got me put out
my house by Tie Like that record, I just wouldn't stop playing. But
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that's if you guys hadn't heard that, that's one to hear. But for
me, man, the outpoint,whether it was Black or or Jock Queeze
or t I h I d thesepeople heard the album and literally said I
want to be here, I wantto be there. You know, it
wasn't It wasn't where I had tochase or convinced as much as they found
some sort of type of inspiration andlit themselves. So I just wholeheartedly just
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say thank you and I appreciate youto them, you know, I really
do. Everybody came through, Yeah, and everybody hit it out the park.
Yeah, bro, they really didthat. I think back to the
all day. I dream about sexright and that drop and that run.
I remember that run. I metyou during that run as well in Vegas
at a radio station I was workingat. And it's a different killer Mike.
Yeah, yeah, I mean thatwasn't my record. I was like,
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well, sure, but yeah,there's growth there. Yeah exactly.
I was a kid. I waslike, you know, I kid,
Yeah I did. I didn't andI wasn't, you know, particularly bad
at disrespect. I just didn't.I was. It was the lights for
all my eyes wide open. Idon't know what the hell I was doing.
Yeah, what I was doing,and correct me if I'm wrong,
But I think there was a littlechip on your shoulder, there was.
I mean, I was being forcedto do a record that I didn't want
to do. I was being Iwas. I was. I was misunderstood
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by the major label I was at, like I said, coming there,
and they have to smile and kickwith y'all. But right before that,
the label tell you gotta change yourname. They're never going to accept killer
Mike. And then you know,eight years later you're doing I mean ten
years later, you're doing a BernieSanders campaign and the same people coming to
you like kill him. Like Ijust think it's amazing you overcame the name
and like it was never anything toovercome stupid. You just aren't confident enough
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in it to walk in the roomand say it with your chest out.
You know what I'm like, ifthe representatives meeting you, they got to
walk in with the full confidence andseal this artists. And I just realized
I wasn't getting that, and Iwas frustrated, and I was you know,
I was different because I because Ididn't know how to fully beat me
or you know, and I didn'tI hadn't found there was a lot to
figure out, yep. And nowit's figure it out and and and because
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what you really figured out you neverfigured it out, But you got to
be the truest version of who youare at the time. That's the superpower
the man. You know, whenyou talk about your mom, you have
this like glow to your face.And it's also like so refreshing to have
someone in here that's like so aboutrap and being genuine about What do you
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think your mom would think about this? My mommy Denise uh miss sounded Pepper.
My mom was a was a florist, a lover of disco and bands,
and a drug trafficking amazingly brave womanshe was. She was. That
was my girl, shes like shejust My mom taught me how to dance
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with a girl. She taught me, she taught me how you approach a
girl. She taught me like likelike, I remember the Game, man,
I remember listening to Luke and thetwo Live Crew with my mom.
So when people are complaining about,like about music that's out there and I'm
just I asked him, like,do you listen to music with your kid?
Now? You know you're not gonnalisten to every record. But how
I found out about Sexy Rader isexactly the same way my mom found outout
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Luking two loved Crust shit with mydaughter. I'm sitting with my daughter,
my oldest daughter, she's twenty six. Now, I'm like, NA,
what you're listening to? I alwaysask the kids what they listening to?
Because your kids gonna put you on. She said, I said, what
you what you don't want to tellme? She said, I don't know
if I should play with for you, daddy, And I said, and
she got daddy. I said,play it for me, girl, my
pink, my taul Brown. Iwas like, wow, that's interesting.
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She's being very truthful. And Iwas like Jack, I was smiling me
and her giggling laugh. I say, because when we're in the car with
the Bonus Mamas, we're laughing,I say, I said, I like
it. I said, let metell you story of your grandma. I
said, I'm about in the seventhgrade. I'm playing Luca in the two
Live Crew and and and my momsays, she gets back in her car
and I turned it down, andshe said, no, turn it back
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up. And at some point theysample an old comedy record that one of
my grandmother's had, where like mom'sMabel, if somebody says such such I
hit you. No, it waslike it was a guy he said,
I hit you in your head withnine inches of limp dick. And so
when you remember that, and mymom looks at me and says, shit,
I want to see that nigga.Hey, and I'm looking at my
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twenty my mom is like twenty seventythis point. I'm like, you crazy,
right. But she was my friend. She was my artistic like sharpener.
We listened to Salt and Pepper together. We listened to rock sand chante
together. She liked female them.We listen to Latifa together. So I
just I missed my girl. OnSundays, I just go to her house,
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pull up and we sit on theback of the truck of the car
to trump and just play music andjust and just call you know. So
I glow when I talked to you. My greatest she's my greatest is friend.
That was dope. Man. Itwas dope. Man, It was
dope. Man. Wasn't even butshe man, she said, she's literally
shit. I gotta see it.I was just like, girl, you
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hell, I'm like, do mydaddy know you think of it? But
yeah, I mean, you know, parents, man, I know my
parents. I mean our parents hadkept it very real with us. Yes,
yeah, and we saw the good, bad and the ugly. Man.
You know, it's important as parentsto show kids that, man,
show them, show them you ain'tbeen perfect. The whole run, and
it'll relate to you and and stuffwill be more relatable. Nothing will make
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it perfect. But my grandparents whenthey had us, they they realized that
they were forty four and fifty fourwhen I was born. They just didn't
have time to bullshit us. Theyjust they just gave it time. It
was just it was we had fun, but they were gonna be Ma.
This is things you need to know. We got my grandmother, my sisters,
can can can can all change thebattery or tire. I can sew
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a button, a cook a meal, you know what I mean. Yeah,
it's like you won't do able todo everything you're said. I remember
I got ship face drunk in theBlue Flame, and I managed to make
it around the corner of my grandmother'shouse. And I'm asleep on a sofa
and I just I hear something likein the kitchen moving around a pan,
and I kind of crawl off thesofa and I peek in the kitchen.
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You're just like a little nine hundredsquare foot house, the same as out
here. And I look over.She has my oldest daughter at that times,
about five, standing on a milkcrate and saying that's right, baby,
you got to learn how to cookeggs, do something for yourself because
you can't depend on no man,not even get sorry drunk ass daddy.
And it becomes a road sessions.I couldn't do anything but laugh and crawl
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back to the sofa and go backto sleep. But you know, I
just I'm glad my grandparents raised usin that way. And that reminds me
of the stories that we hear aboutLegend's father. You know, let his
father use like his last breath toroast him, no his way out.
I mean, you know, hisstomach catter. It's the first time I
go meet hit him in his realfamily. Yeah, I was a love
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child, my g It's like we'rethen outside baby, Yeah, you know
my grandmother on the side, hisother family, not his real fans.
Heart fucking Sam. And he tellsme at that point, I had lost
a significant amount of weight and Iprobably put on like ten fifteen pounds.
And he the first thing he tellsme in his death that he's like,
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you stopped running hard, Danny.The man's got something cancer. At the
time, I didn't realize it,but like when I look back at that
point, I'm like this motherfucker.But you know his parents got to keep
it real with you. Man,I thought my name was bastard till I
was nine, Like, no bullshit. I was like, because my grandmother
be talking about me to her brotherand sister and Denise, Man, I
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don't know what she want to cometo see the little bastard right, And
I'm just like, what in thefucking one? So I told him and
I said, Mama, why doyou you know? Like I call my
grandmother mom, I called my mommommy. I said, why do you
why do you call me like?She looks at me, said, because
baby, that's what you're all.That's what you're. Your mom and dad
want marriage. She said, youlook in the Bible. That's y'all.
She said. Doesn't mean I don'tlove you. I love you, but
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baby, you're best. That's that. That's what exactly, that's what.
That's when the Bible and the dixMayor becamey my friends. I was like,
I gotta understand language in a waythat doesn't offend me anymore. And
and and then all my sisters myparents were married when they were born.
And I'm just like, yeah,I am truly you your mom and Grandma
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could have dropped a crazy project,man and it would how's the vegan restaurant,
man, Well, we don't havethe vegan. The vegan restaurant is
pinky shouts out the slutty vegan andher husband who owns Big Dave Cheese Steaks.
So I'm just like the hell ofa marriage. That's like George Carver,
that's like a Republican and a Democraticman. But but my wife and
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I have Bankhead Seafood. I'm inpartnership with t I. We bought a
fifty year old restaurant called Banka Seafood, and we are gonna have some vegan
options on there for you weird peoplewho hang out with with with me eaters.
I don't know why they treat y'alllike y'all the weird people. Y'all
be so cool, y'all do y'alljust got Brussels sprouts from water, and
everybody be acting like y'all shouldn't getbrussel s trouts water, you know,
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but but but but we opened rightat the first of the year. My
wife, Shae has done an amazingjob. Her and Crystal Peterson have done
an amazing job at at spearheading theproject. So it's me and are going
to get his credit. Yeah,but these two women have done it.
T I and I are though,are happy. T I. Right down
the street, not a half amile down up the street, he has
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the Trap Music Museum. So whenyou guys come to Atlanta, he has
a trap music museum, and hehas Trap Music Cafe where they do comedy
and stuff. But you can cometo bank and seafood, and then right
down the street about another mile down, he has one hundred and fifty three
unit affordable housing units he just builtout. So Atlanta man, the athletes
and entertainers there are working very hardat becoming a business class in their communities.
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And I like to challenge LA CityCouncil, LA's mayor, and the
local political and neighborhood leaders around LAto make it easier for it to make
more. Magic Johnson's and Magic Johnsonis a is a hero of mine because
I cheered for him as a kidrunning up and down a court, and
I saw the economic difference he madein my city by opening up a theater,
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opening up you know, different coffeehouses, things in that nature.
But by being a business person hegave example, to people like Big Boy,
who's an amazing business person, topeople like TII, to people like
me, and I want to challengelocal municipalities to invite athletes and entertainers to
become a part of business class andschool and mentor them and watch your cities.
You know, grown, what's inthe middle of that, What's what's
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in the way bullshit politicians, lobbyinggroups from corporations that are bigger you.
You. I hear too often frompeople what rappers and entertainer and athletes don't
do all right, So let's makeit possible for them to do it.
Let's pressure local politicians. Maynard Jacksonwas the first black mayor of Atlanta.
He made it mandatory that to dobusiness with the city of Atlanta, your
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company had to be have twenty ninepercent black interest in ownership. And all
of a sudden, and there wasa black man who's over procurement, all
of a sudden, you see anexplosion in the black middle class. We
already had a great black working classand lower middle class, but you saw
an explosion in the upper middle classas well. That's possible in any city,
but it's only possible when terms ofcontracts and procurements go to who they
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should be allocated to. The FEDShave contracts that they mandate should be the
black and brown people should be to. Small business should need to medium sized
businesses. If the people who getthe money on a state and local level
are not adamant about seeing that happen, and if we're not adamant about fostering
partnerships that see growth and development fromthe private and public sector, what we
get is the bullshit we got,and we can get better bullshit than the
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ship we got. The bullshit wegot can be first, but the better
bullshit grow. Something like the bullshitthey got only sends them the resort meetings
and they talk about bullshit and theycome back and they say, want without
the headache. Yeah, exactly,exactly. So I want to challenge,
you know, challenge your local municipalitieshow to do that. Yeah, he
was crazy with Keith Lee. Whathappened with Keith Lee in Atlanta? Right?
(31:15):
Oh? Yeah, I didn't thinkmuch about it, but yeah,
he he went out, Hey,man, there's a Chick fil A and
waffle house is successful for a reason. And I think that because both of
those are Atlanta restaurants. Yeah,and you ever been to Chick fil A?
You ever with chickilay in a badmood and left feeling better eating ship,
But they were like what's your name? Welcoming? He was like,
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damn, got everything except like ahand job. This is been amazing.
You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm just like, this is a
fucking amazing. And so I seeDutch bros. That's Dutch bros. No,
I've never been a Dutch ros isLike they will ask you about your
personal handjob from the bros. ButI loved it. I loved it.
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I loved that. I think shoutsout to Keith. I think that the
the Hinge Gym, and what hedid was that he just he just showed
us that we can always do betterin terms of customer service. And so
you know, I and I say, and I mentioned, you know,
I mentioned the Chickplan in the WhiteHouses, because these are two restaurants that
started in Atlanta. They've all sixtyseventy eighty years old maybe at this point.
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But what people love about him isthe customer service. So I just
want to say that every young businessperson. I own barbershops, a franchise
of barber shops is growing. Thefirst five years have just spent apologizing to
people and saying, hey, we'reon the strive to get better because we
had to unlearn barbers some bad habitsthey had. You know, before you
sit in our barbershaars, they're goingto be clean and white. You're not
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gonna sit down in someone else's hair. Hair is not going to be at
the floor when you sit there.You're going to how barbers are going to
wash their hands before and after youJust that type stuff. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, maybe some gloves absolutely ifyou want. I don't always like
the gloves. It feels like arubbers on my face, you know what
I mean? That's you know whatI mean, You're like, this just
went somewhere else, So I justwashed your hands from Like, why does
(33:02):
it feel like a magnum is onfat finger bar your thick fingers? Man?
Yo, let's talk about real quick. Greenwood and Kenley Greenwood Man,
the importance of this. Yeah,there's there's there is, There's just a
need. Greenwood is is a isa fintech company that partners with other companies
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and banks and things, investment groupsand things of that nature to get people
who usually would be left outside theeconomic can doism circle and lets them in.
Nothing that's been as satisfying the pastfew weeks is going to a couple
gas stations and having people say no, I'm gonna pay for your Snickers bar
and your and your water when they'repull out a Greenwood card. Greenwood is
(33:44):
about to roll out some new thingsthat in the lending market that are going
to help people with unconventional business thatroom that the people in this room,
it may not be as easy toget people from the poor and working class.
So I'm very proud to be apart of Greenwood, proud of what
they've been able to do in termsof the employment staff, and they picked
up in terms of the partnership withthe gathering spot. I'm looking forward to
our growth and I want to tellpeople this. If you don't like Mike
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and if you don't like Dom greenwith if you don't find a small bank
or credit union that you do like, sure and build a relationship with them.
And the reason I say that isbecause a lot of times we live
in an era where ideologically people mightnot like who you voted for, so
they don't like nothing you ever stoodfor, right, But I want people
to understand that what I want youto do is focus on being hyper local.
(34:29):
And when you do that, thebutcher shop that your parents went to
stays open because you shopped there too. And as much as I love whole
foods, I still like going ina regular vegetable truck and get my vegetables
straight off that truck. And Iknow it's cool to eat soup in your
your belinciaka sandals or your fuzzy ugsand talk in the middle of you know
whatever the latest juice bar fashion.But it's nothing like going to that old
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lady that was juicing in the eightieswhen no one cared and making sure her
business stays open. So go toyour credit unions, go to your small
banks. One United, there's ablack bank out here, one of the
largest black banks. Go to OneUnited, Go to Carver if you're if
you're out on the East Coast,go to go to these other other banks
that as well. Yeah that thesebanks are going to be the banks to
give your kid their first shot.You know what I'm saying. These banks
(35:13):
are the ones that trying you howto deal with big banks. So I
just want to tell people thank youfor supporting Greenwood. The growth and exploding
has been amazing, and I wantto tell people who might not necessarily want
to be around with find something smallor medium and put your money there and
put some investment there, because it'sgoing to grow your community. Sure man,
you met Aaron briefly off? Yeah, yeah, I like that T
(35:35):
Shirts guy is a fan man,Thank you. Absolutely. I discover Aun
the Jewels by working at a recordshop. I was actually hired as their
resident punk rock heavy metal guy,but most of our customers are buying hip
hop. My manager was a buddyof mine. He's a huge hip hop
and so I was like, Yo, you gotta let me know what these
people are buying. So the firstnight that he's like, all right,
I'm gonna bring you in. Im'nabring under my Way our Boston like this
(35:57):
to play stuff over the PA thatwasn't like the shells like really like.
So he's like, this guy's runthe Jewels. Check this out, and
the women in the store started dancing. That's good to hear. This is
Run the Jewels, right, AndI'm like, I think I need to
know who these guys are. Andfrom then on, like it's just like
our TJ three came out, andthen of course four and then uh,
(36:19):
you know, the pandemic hit andwe wanted to see you guys. And
then once this show at the tenyear anniversary Crazy it was a party every
night and it's just the people youbrought and just the vibe and like dream
come true and enjoying your drinks andjust you know, people hanging out.
So first time we do Hotel,man stoned out of my mind and someone
(36:43):
says, Lars is here from Metalica. Come on, you know I'm talking
so eighty seven as a kid.All I'm listening to is in w a
metallic Yeah, you're listening right away, entertandman starts right, yeah, right
away. And I'm just like,I go from being overly confident we're about
to kill ship to oh my god, I don't have any clothes on.
(37:04):
This is this is and man,And just just just hearing him there,
knowing the watch and having him showlove was just like, oh, did
you get a chance to speak tohim, Gail? I wouldn't. Man,
we're walking, we're walking at anyEnemy Awards and we see, we
see, we see, we seeit's Jimmy or Robert from Zeppelin, we
(37:27):
see and we run the steps,running and running the steps ain't easy for
me. Bub And when we getup there, but I was just sorry,
sorry, brother, you we gottaget a picture. So man,
the rock rock world has meant alot to me. Getting a chance to
open for Rage, you know whatI mean, Like like it was,
it meant the world of me.You know, I want to I want
to be able to to like justdo. What Outcast did to me was
(37:50):
so amazing. I saw them openfor Moby and and I saw them blend
audience and doing that. I thinkit's something we need to redo because in
the nineties, I feel like wehad it right. I saw Cypress and
Red Chili Peppers on the same bill, you know what I mean. And
I think that our kids, Ithink we were better off for I think
(38:10):
we were more cultured for it.So I'm glad that we were your introduction
to hip hop. I'm glad tomeet the fellow rock head because my dad
introduced me to Zeppelin and Black Sabbage, and I think he's a great you
know. I got two dads,uh and one one was the police officer,
one was the truck driver. Butthey both had great musical taste.
So my dad's introduced me to rockMan. But I just man, I'm
just glad that we already bringing togetherthe world, the community for sure,
(38:36):
after everything, we're glad to havegenres mixing, right, Like the Warped
tour, Yeah right, tours likethat we missed. I missed it.
Buy what were doing? Yes,man, yes, yes, yeah.
The Juggalo ship is a little crazyfor me, but that goes down here.
But I ain't gotta you know,I ain't gotta go to a Raiders
(38:57):
game to appreciate it because Raiders gameslike the Juggle offense, like like they
might win, they might lose.Somebody's gonna get stabbed, somebody's gonna get
Yeah. Yeah, yo. Lovewhat Dave Chappelle did on Run. That
was crazy. Thank you Dave Chappelleon that. I was, you know,
young thugs on the project. Imean, we can talk about Michael
(39:17):
all day. So this is whatyou have given us, yup. I
I gave you guys my heart andsoul because and what I've realized I did
and doing that is I spoke upfor the worker class in this country.
You know, you're either hearing fromthe about the extremely rich or from the
extremely poor, and a lot ofus have been poor worker class. But
(39:39):
you know, you hear from theextremes in this country. But there's there's
kids that will see students in thiscountry that never get to talk. There
are men that get up and womenthey get up every day four or five
in the morning and go to workand put it in there eight, ten,
twelve hours and lead decent, integrityfield lives. And there's no one
celebrating them like they're the champions ofthe world. And and that's what I
(39:59):
want and continue to do. That'sit, man, Keep going. Man,
what's a line off of Michael thatyou just when you hear you're like,
who I said that? Ah ManMozzi said it to me a lot.
Yesterday we were together. We wereshooting something cool, but he said,
I shed tears every morning in thebathroom me or face the faith that
I had to face my fears.It was me on the reason that I
(40:19):
failed. That was hell locked theself kilt like jail lord. I cried,
almost died empty inside. The devilwhispers in your ear, your contemplate
suicide. Tell me, y'all knowPromisan has been there before. But it's
pride before the fall is high.Usually go stop it man, yo,
man, Yeah, that's deep.That's deeper than rap. Man. Come
on, man, it's it's it'sa message. It's a message from the
(40:43):
worker class. Every dad is withevery man women out there. In case
you think he doesn't care, hedoesn't have anything. Sometimes man, men
carry carry in our bag something soemotional it feels like you're gonna explode,
and all you can do is getin that shower or stand in front of
that mirror and let those tears fall. Was on the other side of the
doors. That women are, thosewomen and children. You're responsible for that,
(41:04):
the family, that tribe you lead. So just know, man,
your dad, your uncles, yourbig bros. Like, give them some
grace because they're carrying it. Youknow, they want to do their best.
They don't always know. I alwaysknow how to be the most communicat
because sometimes you communicate, you justbreak down crime and they always safe to
cry in front of y'all. Youknow, my baby mama called me.
He says, nigga, you gonnacry on TV again and that, and
that's the one that went to collegeto graduating and then she last and says,
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we love you. We were proudof you. We appreciate it.
Yeah. Absolutely, Yo, Isthere is there any more Mexican people in
Atlanta? Yeah? Man shout shotMan shots all the brothers essays. It
was traditionally it was traditionally North likeBeaufort Highway and North was a heavy Mexican
Asian population. So if you wantedgreat Mexican food, you went north.
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But in College Park, shots outto Cap g Man, amazing Atlanta artists,
Mexican brothers, Cap and his familyrap hard. You got some great
Mexican spots like our old National It'slike a hybrid because the homies, the
Mexicans down have been there so long. It's like it's like Houston. You
know, you meant Mexicans from HoustonMexican, but it's like different, they
they they they different. Different.Yeah. And now and now on the
West side of Atlanta, because thereare a lot of jobs and industry there,
(42:13):
you have Mexican families that are moviein. I just did my high
school, Frederick Douglas High School,and I did Jeane child Young Middle School,
and the kids there are blending itand getting to know each other and
showing love. So yeah, they'reMexicans in Atlanta, man, and they
kicking it, yo, Mike,we just kicked off our Eighthanyel Cruiz Cares
Toys Drive. Yeah. I wouldlove your support in any way, definitely.
So I'm big on hot wheels.That's what I tend to give them
(42:35):
toy drive. So if you'd allowme to, I love the sense of
hot wheels too, amazing. Yeah, we'll take it. I got it.
Now I'm about to hear the presidentof Hot Wheels like, Yo,
we gotta give something. Volunteer usto give hot wheel benefits. So many
kids throughout Los Angeles and Girls Club, Man, it really makes a difference.
I got you, got you,and and you know mom, Mom's
out there. Man, let thelittle girls. It's la so I know
(42:58):
car culture d Let the little girlsat the Hot Wheels. Yeah, that's
right, that's right. Killer Michais here, Michael. The Deluxe version
all streaming platform. Yeah. Hey, check your rich form the Cruse Show.
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