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Equally lutchin Yuh? Is that ajoint? Man? Like that? Like
quarter pounder? Man? Yeah,I'm a leastinger man. Ah, that's
it man. We play everything fromlike Santana to l Chicano. Man,
you know, like everything today.I'm just a little machine reiners. Is
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that all the hurt? You canget it up? Man? Go ahead,
hit it man? He call lutchingup? Man? Where'd you get
that? God? What is that? Man? Look like it's like calls.
Ain't scared of with a little speed, are you? Man? Are
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you guys some speed? Mexican Americasdon't like to just get into gang fights
and like flowers and music and whiteGirl's named Dabby The Legends cheating back on
the Cruise show. Please sit down, stay, stay in ovation. How
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you guys doing, man? Goodgood man? Yeah? Waking up?
Yeah? Are we still waking?And bacon? Yeah? Yeah, rightfully
so man, getting ready to dothe baking part. But I wish we
could smoke in here right now.We're at I Heeart. Things are a
little different. We're bacon and faking. That's it, that's right, man,
Cheating Chong is here. We're justtalking about this off their Jackie and
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I Jackie is due to the showI'm Jay Cruise by the way that Jackie
and mirrors lit Jeff Garcia, thesports dude who you guys know, you
know, born in East la theclassic Cheach and Chong films, But Jackie
was introduced to Cheach in a differentin a different film, in a different
way. What was it so lateron in life. Definitely Cheating Chong.
That's where it kind of as Igot older. But my first introduction to
you, Cheach was Uncle Felix andSpike kids. Oh that for me,
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I was like, oh my god. Uncle Felix was like, oh,
now this is the get high andhe's not really your uncle. Yeah,
exactly. That's a kind of tradition. My father grew up there and and
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his it was his other Rudy.That was my dad was l A.
P. D. And so wasRudy. Wow. Yeah, and they
always this is your uncle Rudy fromthe time that I can remember, Uncle
Rudy. Uncle Rudy. Sure,and he became the highest ranking Chicano in
the forest and they named the Hollenbeckstation after goes into my forties that I
found out he really wasn't my uncle. That's such an uncle. He kind
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of my father grew up on thesame block as kids, so they always
knew each other. So that's likeRobert Rodriguez now made eight movies and he
always introduces me to his kid ishis uncle chee sure? And I go,
hey, uncle che So the traditioncontinues. Yeah. Now listen when
my kids when when my kids aresix and two. But uh, you
know we uh we we've seen youguys on TV and I say, hey,
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that's uncle chiech and Chong right there. You know what I'm saying.
You guys have become uh, thethe cultures, theals. Isn't that grass,
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it's magic right. I love thetagline to well, I don't know if
it's the tagline, but I sawit in the notes sipping and ripping.
It's perfect. It Well, it'sa it's a bottle of vodka in a
beautiful decanter kind of bottle and whenyou finish the vodka. It comes with
all the implements to turn it intoa bong. A saw you can put
to the whole end, but bothstick to thing and you got you got
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a big it's a numbered. Everyone of them's numbered. They're all numbered,
which makes them very special, verycollectible, exactly, and it's a
good bugs, don't yo chong?Isn't it crazy? How like times have
changed? Like you did, I'mfor bongs. Yeah, and look at
it now. Yeah, things area lot different. How do you well?
I was it was like a religiousretreat for me when I was.
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I mean, I could have foughtit. I could have. You could
have. I could have made somekind of concession, you know, but
I actually, when I thought aboutit, yeah, okay, I'm ready
to go, you know, togo for the time though I need.
I needed the experience. Yeah,and uh it worked out really well.
You know Jeff Corcia, the sportswho is a proud owner of one of
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those boons, and it's autographed.I told him in my attic for safekeeping,
family heirloom now never used, bythe way, clean. And guess
what I did when I was injail bongs. I made bombs. My
god, not only made bongs.I made him out of clay. Yeah,
and then I needed a kiln.And and see you when you're in
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the prison like I was in,you know, taff all the inmates they
run the place, you know,yeah, and and the guys that worked
there, they just they're on vacationmore or less, you know, because
they don't have to do ship.And so I found out I found out
from you know, the people thatworked there, that they were there,
that there was a kiln in thatthey had bought there for a play that
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but the warden had put it,you know, they took it off the
you know, so the inmates wouldn'thurt themselves or whatever, you know.
Just and so when I found outthey had a kiln, I went met
the warden. He was a wardenof the heavy prison across the way.
And I found out that he gothis car gased at this place, you
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know that on our side. Andso I went and I met him,
and I introduced him myself to him, and he treated me like a big
celebrity. Oh, well, arethey treating you everything? Okay, some
extra commisary. Yeah, I said, well, listen, you know,
I understand you had a kiln youknow, yeah, and he gave me
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the yeah yes, oh yeah,yeah, oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah, forget it nothing. Andso what I did, I had to
kind of run of the place,you know, because I was famous.
And I found a way that Icould build a kiln and you made one
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on your own. And it wasin the Indian grounds and that's where we
used to go do the sweat lodge, and so we had this little area
that was knowing. The guards cameone time, you know and just to
show off their thing. But soI built, I built a kiln,
and and then the rest of theprison guards and that they saw what I
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was doing, but they just letme alone. They if you advice to
anybody, go to prison, findsomething really weird to do alone, and
then they leave you alone. Yeah. Yeah, that guy's mental, that's
right. I was always told shipyour pants and people will leave you alone.
And that's what you do, youAnd so so when I was building
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the thing, I got all sortsof materials, you know, from the
shop and everything else. And thenpeople started to help me with it,
you know, and I built thisout and then I'm trained trying to figure
out you got to get it hotenough, you know, to burn.
So we found the railroad ties,you know, and then if we fired
him up on the weekend, becausethere's hardly any guards there, Yeah,
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and so so I fired it upall weekend. There's big fires. Go.
Yeah. By the way, havethe statues of limitations passed already?
Can we now talk about this freely? This is right? Okay? Good,
good, good good. He wantsto go back there, You want
to go back and see all hisfriends. He needs another vacation. I'll
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tell you. That's why a lotof crimes, you know, those wondery
drivers and that you know, beingtaste, they're trying to get back in
there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I swear to god,
you know, compared to the streetsprison, it was great. Only
you had to do is shelter.You had to clean your cell and make
your own bed. Ah yeah,How long did you do? How long?
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I did? Nine months? Ninemonths? That's no joke, man,
nine months, you know, ninemonths. You know those big tubes
of toothpaste, Yeah, three ofthem. Yeah, you did three tubes
of toothpaste and there big ones.That's a journey, you know. Let
you recently smoked out his mom reallywell, I got high with it for
the first time. Oh yeah,yeah. It was more like, you
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know, you grow up and youhear like if you smoke weed, you're
not productive or you're not so youwanted to show that that's wrong. Yeah,
more more more than it's just mysister's a big smoker. So I
was like, yo, Jackie,listen, if if you like to smoke,
you got nothing to hide from mymother, you know, just tell
us what do you like to do. She's gonna have to understand you're an
adult now. Was like, Mom, you should give it a try.
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Jackie says it helps their anxiety,calms her down instead of judging her,
like, see if you're up toyou know, and we all got high
together, and it was a goodtime. You showed her food. She
was cracking jokes, she was laughing. And I think that experience definitely,
uh brought us closer. I'm sureit does. It really does. Absolutely.
My mother in law, who's mywife, is Russian, so her
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mother is really realsing and Bob inRussian grandmother is Baska. And I said,
I'm not saying that every time,So you're Bob now, okay,
And so he said you're my dog, and she goes, well, he
holds me a dog. Okay,no, this is And so she's always
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roaming around man and looking in therefrigerator, you know. And her daughter
tells her, don't need anything inthe refrigerator, man, just you know,
come to me if you need something. So we come in and there
she has a refrigerator opening, andshe has this a cookie in her mouth
and she took the big bite outof it. It was a loaded cookie.
Yeah, And so she tells me, we both came with the same
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conclusion. Well, let's see whathappens. Let's see what happens. She
was kind of like, why isthat bus so big? Are we on
the right street? We're on sonsthat there's only one way to get there?
A little more pleasant? Yes,yes, I mean she's still dizzy,
but Disney in a couple of differentways. No, No, she's
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she's very kind of outgoing now.And she started she continued to smoke after
or well not that she knows hereand there edibles you'd be very careful with.
Yeah, infused popcorn, infuse popcorns, infused candied popcorn. Really okay,
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good, my old deed on thatship on my birthday. No,
I got so stoned. I couldn'tmake the birthday party. Birthday. She
was so pissed. My wife wasso pissed at me. She she started
crying because they had a big partyall lined up. I couldn't get out
of the couch. Yeah, andfinally parents got My son got worried.
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He come over and helped me intobed. Yeah, and I was popcorn.
Man, you were out of yourmind. Right, You would think
you would develop a tolerance. Butthese are dangerous exactly. Well, yeah,
you had your stronger than we right, it's strong man. Look,
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actually read the label before you seehow much they got in it. Now.
Someone says sometimes edibles come off aspookies. Man, it's like Jesus,
right, and they come on slowlyand you don't know. Yeah,
yeah, you can't. That's alegendary shirt you got on. Man.
Oh yeah this one. Yeah.Friend was song with Dan Marino. They
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had just won the Super Bowl,being the only undefeated team. Yeah,
were you guys high in that picture? Not yet? Soon after? I
think, Yo. The Judges Water. The Judges Water. A portion of
the proceeds from every bottle will bedonated to the last Prisoner Project benefiting a
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lot of prisoners that are doing timefor weed. Yeah still, man,
talk to us about that. They'restill we're still doing time for weed.
Yeah, it's amazing, Like it'sinsane. In some places they still search
your car and do all that crap. Yeah, but it's a it's a
boulder rolling downhill at this point.Man. You know, you can get
in the way, but I wouldn't. Good luck exactly. I mean,
there was what thirty seven states nowthat have some form of legalized marijuana,
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whether it's medicinal or recreational, andit's just a matter of time and when
it becomes legal federally, that's wheneverything changes. Yeah, that's right,
that's right. So we're waiting forthat. I think, to do by
because by you can't smoke, right, So what do you do. I
was about to go there, notto buy, but to cut her.
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And because it was through the artthing. I'm very involved in congratulations on
that, by the way, becausethat's when they they they rated Israel all
the so so I wasn't gonna goin the middle of that. Are you
mine? Are you on animals?Again? And so the whole board I
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was over there. You know Iwas. I was in Italy and with
a heat spell. God, Iwas crazy. It was. It was
it felt like I was in Malibubecause everything was burning, you know around
me. You know that Lotus,the television show the Lodo White White Lotus.
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We stayed in that next door tothat hotel, and it was it's
very cool. Nice. But youmentioned your art, Man, the art
installation. I mean, it doesso well and it does so much for
so many man, congratulations, thankyou very much. It's just a chief
center for Chicano art and culture inRiverside, California. So if you're ever
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near there, or you want togo there from LA it's only about hour
fifteen. It's well worth your trip. It's the first Chicano museum and it's
doing very very well. Yes itis, Man, I hear a lot
of good things about it. Iwant to take my family up to chase
it out. Yeah, State atthe Mission. It's right next door,
right next door. Yeah. Yeah. I was just out there the other
day for the lighting of the lightsor in the Christmas speiring. And it's
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one of the biggest fires works showanywhere. It's bigger than Disneyland. When
they let it go off, andso it's cool. Had fifty sixty thousand
people there to see it. That'sgreat, that's really cool. That's love.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'syou get a dollar off each of
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new one? Because we've got anew gummy? I think? So?
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Have you seen it? Here?You go? Yeah? I think that.
No, that's the old cruise cheChong pull up. They bring the
party with them, you know aboutto this day, party with them.
Man, don't we have a newone another gummy based cruising space space?
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We don't have them here though?Huh no, Well why not sold out?
Well that's break Chung sell out.Okay, that's what I want to
happen. Chen Chong sold out.What's up? Jack? Who has been
your favorite celebrity smoke session with?Have you guys had to do? Like
maybe at least the top two?Is it Snoop? Is it Cypress Hills?
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Snoop? I used to smoke upwith George Harrison. Wow, rest
in peace, God bless death.We not only smoked, but we we
would have sort of like a silentdiscussion. You know, we're just looking
looking at each other, not justlike last night. I totally got that.
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I want to silent discussion with mywife. Well that's easy. Tommy
smoked with Arnold Schwarzenegger. No,yeah, he smokes. Yeah. The
bodybuilding days he was the that wasthe only thing he would do. He
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wouldn't drink alcohol or soda pop oranything, but he smoked a joint.
Wow. And there was another bodybuilderhis name was Roger Collard and and he
smoked up all the time. ButJoe, Joe Gold was kind of if
he you know, being a Jimowner and so so Roger would smoke up
and I bought by him when Iwas working on Someone's been smoking. We
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shut up, man, come on, shut up, shut up. Joe's
going to kick me out of here. Man. See he's hang out with
the bodybuilders. When he first cameto Venice, man were right there at
all you muscle beach in his neighborhood. Yeah, so, and he was
a bodybuilder, that's right. Infact, Arnold. Arnold looked at me
one day and he says, Ilook at your body. What is wrong?
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He says, you have no shoulders. Shoulders, Ernie, you got
no neck? You see them?You see the picture of me and I
would have been the back right there. There's a picture of me and Ernie.
Have you seen that? Oh mygod, I might have it on
my phone. But oh I lookedlike a little midget. Oh boy,
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that's crazy. So George Harrison wasthe only Beatle that you smoked with.
I smoke and ringo. I smokedwhen John Lennon was in a room.
Went at Lou Adler's place and Ididn't see him, and I lit up
a joint and I looked down JohnLennon sitting on the floor, and so
I walked over and offered him ajoint, and he said, no,
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I got he's having problems with immigrationand so he couldn't swoll. And then
was a Mexican and then and thenRod Stewart walked in, and Rod Stewarts
in the course right to the mirror. He's messing up his hair more,
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you know, And I offered hima joint and he goes, no,
man, my throat, and soI felt kind of weird. So I
put it out and I'm walking outinto the hallway and I run into Jack
Nicholson. But I'm so stoned.And I just seen Jack in that movie
the first detail, the last detail, and Jack's standing in front of the
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back and I said to him,I said, hey, in that movie,
man, I saw your movie.It is great. Tell me in
that one scene, you're standing therein the mirror and you're combing your hair
and the scene goes on for liketen minutes and you don't have any hair.
I said, I said, didyou? Was that all improvised?
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And he goes, excuse me,and he knows exactly what to say at
the right time. Is there roomfor one more movie? I think so?
Yeah. Yeah, I think sotoo. We're gonna do a remake
up up and Smoke. That wouldbe amazing. We might be doing a
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new one, yeah, maybe acouple of new ones. Yeah, there's
room for there's there's room for morethan one more. No, we're going
to do biopics. Yeah, perfect, and we'll go back in our history
and sure and have other actors playus. And how long have we been
friends? Partners? Here? Sincesixty sixty nine? Sixty eight, sixty
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nine? Did you say what number? Nineteen sixty nine? That's just horny.
Yeah, that was in the olddays. We met him Vancouver,
Vancouver. I met him. Imet him before he became a Chicano.
How far back we go, that'sa fact. When I met him,
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I didn't know. No one knewwhat he was. You know, the
acting troop I had that we're lookingwhat is he? I don't know what
is he? Because he was RichardMarrin. Wow, he was not He
was not really right there. Henever became Cheach until we did a comedy
and then we trying to figure outwhat to call ourselves. And then I
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asked him if he had a nickname, and he said, yeah, Cheach,
and so that was that was thefirst time I heard Cheach. And
then I didn't really know. Hefigured out that he was Mexican. Two
where he came to n A Yeah, and then people started treating him like
a Mexican. He didn't have alot of Mexicans in Vancouver because when we
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first met, we both had thesame thought, what what are you?
I thought it was like a Mongolianbiker or something. I had to figure
it out, right, I hadto figure out Yeah, man, I
just watched Born and with my sixyear old son. Really, yeah,
man, I had to show itto him. Might have been a little
too early, but what are yougonna do? What are you gonna do?
Yeah, listen, it will makean imprint on Yeah. I mean
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I was six and I was watchingGood Fellas and Godfather. You know I
turned out fine. That's there.You got a job. I got a
job blowing it down. I gota great team here, people working for
you. It's all good. What'sup, jacket? You threw out the
first pitch at Dodger Stadium this pastseason? How was that? It took
a lot of practice because you canreally look stupid there, you know.
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So I practiced, boy, doI know? I had people throwing them
back and forth me so just toget that army because you know, and
and it did good. It wasdid you make the catcher high end?
Inside? Man? How many bounces? No? No bounces. It's good.
I had the opportunity to do thatduring Hispanic Heritage Month. And man,
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was it a terrible pitch. Yeah, it was awesome. Oh so
bad, guys, what was thatlike? Fifty cents through it? He
threw it into the stands. Okay, it wasn't as bad as fifty no,
none, No pictures worse than that. Yeah, no, no,
no, no, it was itwas. We compared it. We compared
it. Yeah, definitely top fivemaybe. Yeah, it's scary once you
go up there. Did you standon the mountaineer? Were you in front
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of the mountain? I've just thrownout of pictures in a lot of different
parts. Sure, yeah, Andso pitching from the mountains much more difficult,
Yes, it is. Yeah,So they usually get all the geezers.
Man, they said, well itcome on down from the mountain,
you know, come halfway to homeblade, you know, like you got
it, you know right right.And for a second I thought I was
going to get a second try,and I'm like, no, you don't
get a second try. The firstpitch I practiced a lot for the last
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time. I thought I did too, and I still took an out high
and inside. Man that's a brushpatYeah, brush back pitch. I should
have been high during it, that'smy problem. The Judge's Water the world's
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Congratulations, Thank you very much foryour time, pleasure. And you guys
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are legends. We love you.I know you guys hear that all the
time. Big boys give us abig goodie bag. Oh did he?
Yeah, we're mates. Where's mygoodie bag? I don't want to say
it. Boy makes more money thanus, apparently, give me your address.
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I'm going to send you something crazy. Okay, a chat on the
side, Okay, thro those thingsaway. This guy's had pink eye since
I met him. Be careful.I was I was in and my wife
was resting. We were in SaintPetersburg and we were doing some kind of
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of a photo session. They foundout I was there. They want me
to do and so they gave methis pair of glasses and they're kind of
reflective and big, big lenses andwrap around and I go help me this.
These are cool, Yeah, reallycool and inside it says Danny Trejo.
Uh. The guy says, uh, made in Russia. No,
made in Mexico with Russian money,yeah, Danny, So I says,
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well, I mean this is thissounds a little phony, man. So
I called him up right from rightfrom Saint Petersburg. Hey, Danny,
Hey, hell, what are youdoing man? What time did you make?
Oh? Yeah, that's my biggestseller man, Russia? Is that
what inspired the vodka? The wifey? What vodka? The choice of vodka?
I don't have a choice of vodkain there, No, But what
I'm saying, like, did yougo with vodka because your wife because she's
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rushing? No? Just because inthe movie Up and Smoke, it comes
out of the moon where Tongue goesup to the judges thing and takes her
water and drinks it. Fucking yeah. Yeah, And so that's why we're
told legendary. Yeah, Joey JoyMirron come up with that idea, right,
yeah, yeah, the judge's water, it's limited, so you have
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to act now, get it.Just in the holidays, because they're gonna
they're gonna go quickly. Absolutely,because I'm gonna take a whole bunch.
Yeah, I'm gonna purchase one andsend it to you. Don't worry about
it. Thank you very much.I appreciate it, guys. Thank you
man, Love you guys so much. Cruise Show Real ninety two to three.
Hey Jack, your rich for theCruise Show. Thanks for listening to
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