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March 8, 2024 18 mins
Legendary Boxing Announcer Jim Lampley joined Jeff G The Sports Dude to talk about the Rumble in Riyadh: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou. He also talked about his broadcasting history, his upcoming book, teaching at UNC & his favorite Tar heel of all time. Jim also talked about Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson.
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What I was. Good everybody,this is Neo and you were checking out
the Cruise Show podcast. Make sureto subscribe, rate and share, peace
and love. Okay, welcome toit. It is the Cruise Show.
Jeff Garcia is here with the boxinglegend and announcer that deserves so many accolades.
I don't think we could cover themall in this interview, but Jim
Lampley, thank you for joining us. I truly appreciate it is an honor,

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like it really is an honor.Thank you very much. It's my
privilege to be here with you,you know, with a voice like yours.
When you were younger and you finallyhit puberty and that voice kicked in,
did you know that announcing was yourcalling? This is the last thing
in the world, I thought,and seriously, and I think this probably

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happens to all of us. Thefirst time I heard my voice recorded or
you know, in some form ofbroadcast communications, my first thought was,
wait a minute, you know,is that actually what I sound like?
Because that's so much less and somuch much more unimpressive than I thought would

(01:03):
be these Literally, I was drivinga car right here in Chapel North,
Chapel Hill North Carolina. It wasshortly after I had first begun doing things
for WCHL Radio thirteen sixty am,the central station the University of North Carolina
Football and Basketball radio Networks. Ihad done the postgame interview with Bill Dooley

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the first football game of the season. I heard a playback on the radio
while I was driving the car,and my first instinct was, who's that?
Because I knew that the content wasmine, but I was so certain
that that voice could not have beenmine at all. So the answers no.

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I was shocked ultimately to be successful, and I hope that that establishes
that clarity and diction and being ableto say the words in the right way
actually does have some meaning and impacton our business. It does, and
you're the best at it. Andthat's a great story, because I think
all of us. I've been doingradio for almost thirty years already, and

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I think it took me five orsix seven years to get used to hearing
myself too. You kind of it'sthat shock at first, and you're,
you know, you try to getused to it, and then you develop
yourself as a broadcaster. But man, you're just the best at it.
We're here to talk about the Rumblandread though, we got to make sure
we talk about that. Anthony,Joshua Francis and Ganu two beasts, two

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knockout artists from different sports. Howdo you as a broadcaster prepare for that?
Will you? Have you seen Francis'sfights before in the UFC? I
know you've seen Anthony joshuas but howdo you kind of prepare for this?
Well? I saw the Fury fight. Yeah, so that's my basic introduction.
I had relatively lengthy interviews with bothof them within the past few days,

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and that's meaningful in terms of preparation. Obviously, you get as much
reading material as you can get andrefresh your memory about all the things I've
learned with regard to Joshua in thepast and in Ganu's amazing narrative, which
is ultimately going to be a narrativemovie project. There's no way that it

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isn't. Of course sand minds.Who ever heard of sand minds? So
at the end of the day,you take advantage of the opportunities that exist
for me because PPV dot com isnow an established entity with business relationships.
I after thirty one years of callingfights on HBO am still at least moderately

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recognizable to the boxing establishment. SoI get the access to do the interviews,
and that's really the central focus ofmy research. You can read and
read and read all you want,but unless you speak to the two fighters
face to face, you don't havethe real depth of knowledge and awareness that
you need to go into this.For instance, I asked Joshua, is

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it a fight which doesn't seem tooperate in his favor or is it a
boxing match which would seem to operatein his favor? And he said,
there's no way that I can makesure it's a boxing match all the way
against this kind of guy. He'sjust too big, too physical, too
strong. I know he wants toclose the gap and fight. At some

(04:26):
point, it's going to be afight, and I wish I could prevent
that, but there's no way thatI can possibly do that. I'm going
to have to be ready to fight, and I think that's the right insight
for him to have and sets upan interesting confrontation in the ring. Once
again. Rumbell and read on PPVdot com Anthony, Joshua Francis and Ganu.

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We had Francis on the show,and his hands, Jim, are
so huge, Like you know,have you ever shaken somebody's hand and it
just they swallow your hand, LikeI've had that experience. And I did
not shake his hand, but Icertainly had the sense that he was that
kind of big and he also seemslike a big person. In our interview,
he was generous, and he waswarm and outgoing, and you know,

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he said the kind of thing tome that broadcasters like you frequently say
to me, complimentary, laudatory,et cetera, et cetera, And of
course that made me feel good abouthim and made me want him to do
well, both in the interview andin the event. Yeah, yeah,
great guy, gentle giant for sure. You know, these crossover fights,
we're seeing him more and more andmore often. Do you enjoy seeing them

(05:35):
just as a fan of sport ingeneral and boxing and fight, well,
I enjoy seeing them just because atthis point they are helping to sustain and
continue broadening the audience for boxing,and and that's a challenge given that boxing

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long ago, within the economics surroundingthe sport, made the choice that a
smaller, more discerning audience, whichwill pay a fee to see the fight
is a better way to sustain thebusiness over the long haul than to continue
the broad audience approach of day today network television. For my youth,

(06:20):
when I was growing up, Iwatched Jillette Friday night fights standard commercial television
broadcast, seeking to get the largestpossible audience for the event. And then
within my lifetime, within my youth, really we began to go in the
opposite direction. And I remember sortof being discomfited by Ali Fraser one by

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the recognition that now this is goingto be a different economic model going forward
and it's not about the biggest audiencepossible. What will that ultimately do to
the sport? Well, as LarryMerchant said, boxing can't fix it,
can't kill it. The sport isstill around. I still have to talk
about. But you know, willwe see Ali Fraser one again with the

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global audience that deeply engaged? No? Probably not. The closest we get
to that is things like this wherethe MNA audience gets to marry with the
boxing audience to get together in alarger audience for one big event. No,
that's so true, and we're seeingit as well with the announcement this
morning of Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. You know, that's the social media

(07:25):
world with the boxing legend and allof a sudden, you know that audience
can tap, you know, canbe as big as some of those fights
that you mentioned earlier worldwide. Yourthoughts on that real quick. I know,
I know we're talking about Rumblin reed, but I have to ask you
about your thoughts. You know,it's showbiz, and and the key word
in showbiz is biz. And youknow, Mike is fifty years old.

(07:49):
I imagine that he can still gethimself into serviceable shape. I don't imagine
that there's any particular danger in itfor him. Maybe there's more danger for
Jake, given how hard Mike canhit and how limited Jake's range of experience
is. But at the end ofthe day, it's not a real competitive

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sports event in my view. Itshowbiz and again, money talks, that's
the way they yeah, for sure, Rumboland read Anthony, Joshua Francis and
Ganu payperview dot com, PPV dotcom. It is tomorrow our time,
ten am here on the West Coast, so it's a perfect opportunity. You
know, sit back, on Friday, maybe take the day off, enjoy

(08:35):
a few beverages and watch a great, great, great fight. Jim,
as a boxing fan, is therea fight you'd love to see made?
A fight I would love to seemade in in the boxing world? Well,
yeah, I think I think thereare several of them, and generally
speaking, they involve skilled fighters inthe middle level wake classes. But obviously

(09:03):
I think it would be best forthe global boxing audience and the heavyweight audience
if Joshua can make some kind ofeffective statement against Dinganu helped to put the
specter of his two losses to Usikout of people's minds. Fury gets past
Usik and re establishes his brand tothe degree that it's been in any way

(09:24):
Diminister tarnished by his experience against Dinganu, and we finally see Anthony Joshua versus
Tice and Fury. I'm not British, but my heritage is British, and
I understand why that fight has fora long time been a holy grail and
great Britain Britain, and they aretwo very meaningful heavyweight champion identity fighters.

(09:46):
So I'm hoping that I'm going tosee Joshua Fury sometime in the next few
years before they're both old news becausethey're getting there. Yeah, that's true.
You know one thing I really whenI was preparing for the interview,
I love that you went back toUNC and you know, taught broadcasting and
communications. Why was that important toyou? Well, because my whole career

(10:11):
is an accident. Everything about mycareer is accidental in nature. My career
began when I was a graduate schoolstudent here in nineteen seventy four finishing a
master's degree program in radio, televisionand Motion pictures, and I was chosen
out of a four hundred and thirtytwo person field in a talent hunt to

(10:31):
become one of the first two peopleever to stand on the sidelines of college
football with a camera and a microphone. You know, that was like it
was like having lightning strike you,and I realized eventually, this is the
beginning of something that could really becomea legitimate, long term sports broadcasting career.
And it happened. To use mycall of George Forman over my Horror,

(10:54):
which is the title of my autobiographynow being written for or a New
York publisher, it happened, andbecause it happened, and because it would
never have happened if I had nothad the experiences I had here as both
an undergraduate and a graduate school teacheror a student, I wanted to come

(11:16):
back and teach. And the chancellorwas born on my birthday. The chancellor
and I are born on April eight. He invited me to come back,
and he said, you know,Jim, if you want to come stand
in a classroom and talk about youramazing life and your experiences, we'll call
that a course. And I said, no, not good enough. Want
I want to create and invent somethingthat will stay in the academic catalog and

(11:39):
somebody else will teach it after I'mfinished. So that happened too. I
created a course called Evolution of Storytellingand American Electronic News Media. I was
qualified to do that because for severalyears in Los Angeles, I was a
nightly news anchor and I had newscontracts with both of the major television networks

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I mostly worked for, so Ihad the credentials to talk about how evolution
changes in electronics, business personnel,et cetera. Have altered the way news
stories are told. And I hadseniors and graduate students in my class,

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and I taught it for five semestersand it was an amazing but frustrating experience,
and eventually I stopped doing that togo back to the well taking care
of other businesses, such as writingthe autobiography. So that was what brought
me back to Chapel Hill. Ticketsto the basketball games will keep me here

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for quite a long time. AndI think everybody you know who's ever been
to college at any level understands thethrill of coming back to be a teacher
in the same place absolutely, andgiving back is very admirable. When is
the book going to be out?Well, the deadline that the publisher has

(13:07):
established for me to complete the writingis September twenty four, So if I
get the book done on time bySeptember twenty four, in theory, it
would enter the marketplace sometime in Aprilof twenty five. So by sometime by
the middle of next year you willprobably have the chance to walk into a

(13:31):
bookstore somewhere and by it happened thestory of Jim Lamplck. I love the
title Rumboland Read Anthony, Joshua Francisand gano PPV dot Com tomorrow ten am.
Right here on the West Coast.Safe to say that college basketball's your
favorite support outside of boxing. It'smy pastime outside of boxing. Yes,

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and I the Dean Smith radio Showwas one of the first things I ever
did, beginning back in nineteen seventytwo and seventy three, So that was
the beginning platform when ABC Sports wentout to look for somebody to stand on

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the sidelines of college football with thecamera and a microphone. They told the
public that they would find somebody whohad zero broadcasting experience. It was a
totally fresh face who was the faceand voice of the American college student.
At the end of the day,they lie and they wound up. They
wound up choosing me, partially becauseI had been in front of a microphone

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and a camera before, and theyunderstood that they weren't just taking a complete
blind chance on somebody who hadn't doneit. So yes, I'm full circle,
totally full circle. I don't doanything in broadcasting relative to the basketball
team, but I'm a guest onsome of the shows. You know,

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people are still interested in my opinion. And tomorrow is beat Duke Day again
for the medium sign. Yes,yes, a big day for you guys.
Man, Anthony Joshua, Francisin ghanuPPV dot com, March eighth,
ten am here on the West Coast, rumble and read Jim, let's make
clear to the audience, won't hearmy voice? I participate along with Kevin

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i Oli in live chat, whichmeans that we are delivering our views of
the fight via text into the computer, into your computer, and you can
kick back at us. The audiencegets to participate in the chat stream.
So this is just as I taughtabout in my graduate school course, a
new form of communication, a newmedium which is emerging in the boxing world,

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and it's a I mean, asa boxing fan, the treat to
be able to chat with you isamazing. I think that's, you know,
to pick your brain on the fightas you kind of comment. That's
you're right. I mean, that'sthe greatest thing. I mean people can
sider to see it at all sports. I mean, what the Manning brothers
do is a version of exactly whatI'll be doing during boxing match tomorrow.

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And a lot of people frown onthat. Oh, I like the old
way. I like this that.But technology is creating so many new opportunities
to interact directly with people that weadmired, people we've watched our whole lives,
like you're good, You're bad.It's a blessing, you know good
and for bad. Am I asupporter of social media, it doesn't matter.
They're here and they're going to stayaround regardless of whether I like the

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effect. So I have to learnhow to live in that world. All
right, I'm gonna leave with this. Leave you with this your goat unc
tar heel basketball player of all time, the greatest of all time to you
your personal opinion. So Michael Jordanclearly ultimately became the greatest Carolina player ever

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and did stay for three years andhad a huge impact on the program.
My personal favorite who gave me themost thrills and kickback because of his presence
as a person and his modesty andhis accomplishments. That would be James Worthy.

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James Worthy is a great lifelong friend. I will always appreciate his modest
demeanor and the friendly way he hasalways interacted with fans and media. And
no slap against Michael. His greatnessis incomparable. But if you're asking me,
Jim Lampley, who was my personalfavorite, my friendship with James prompts

(17:40):
me to have to say him greatanswer. He's my favorite as well as
a Laker fan out here in Laas well. Rumbell, Henriad, Anthony,
Joshua Francis Ganu again tomorrow March eighth, ten am, right here on
the West COASTPPV dot com. Jim, truly an honored Thank you so much,
and I really just appreciate your timethis morning. Thank you so much.
I appreciate you're a CRUSO on Realninety two to three h
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