July 28, 2023 • 38 mins
Thuy checked in with the Cruz Show to talk about her new music, her previous career path, culture, shoe size and so much more.
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It was good as you boyd.What what's good? Everybody? This is
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Cruise Show Real ninety two three lawhip Hop tweet. How are you?
I'm doing really good? Doing good? How? How? What? What
shoe size is the one? AllI see is this ty shoes. I
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just see the shoelaces, some littletoes. It's like yo locker. Honestly,
I did a thing with Flight Cluband they gave me credits, and
I just I don't even know whatsize I am because I think these are
men's but I'm a six and ahalf women's, Okay, so what is
that? Like a five men's?I don't know. I think that's uh.
I think you youth. I amyou, though youth. I don't
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think you into good for youth?Their force ones yep, yeah, you
get them for like what eighty bucks. I don't see the problem. Cheap
code, the cheap code exactly,I'm buying buying your kids feats when they're
young. Don't let them grow andthen you just think, you know,
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that's it that's how you do it, man. Sorry, what happened though?
With my Asian parents are like youcan fit this, We don't need
to You don't need to go upthe side. Oh yeah. The thing
like my dad, he's not themost frugal. He loves to spend money
on like stereo equipment, karaoke equipment. My mom's a frugal one, but
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she likes to spend money on likejuicers and like and like um stand mixers
and like the things that she youknow what I mean, like loves to
do, but like she won't,like she'll she won't let my dad buy
like Astero without giving him ship first. Sorry can I cuss? But yeah,
they're definitely growing up. My momwas very very frugal, and sometimes
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I like sense that about myself too. Yeah right, And like if I
want to buy something, I canlike spend hell of money here. But
then if it's like, oh,a coffee's like six bucks, I'm like
what, Yeah, it's a problem. You start thinking about like the other
things you can buy for six bucks. Exactly six bags of hot cheetos.
Right now, they're not a dollaranymore that you seeing a dollar now,
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it's like one ninety nine. Inflation, Bro, it's going up. It's
killing us for sure. Yeah,so three bags girls like me, don't
cry all streaming platforms, tweets here, Cruise Show Real ninety two. Three
quick observation. You and Jackie bothhave rings on your middle finger. What's
going on here? I don't know. Yeah, okay, yeah, like
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a big it's like a stylish thing. No, it's just so that when
we put people off, it's likecute, you know, cute? Yeah,
yeah, keep a cute Yeah yeah, I don't know. I think
it's just like I don't know.We haven't gotten to the ring finger yet.
No, recently got that ring fromher Man and us, Yeah,
Nico, and like we didn't know, Like do we say congratulations? I
didn't say congratulates. That's the realthing. Well, um, congrats on
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a moving No no, no,I'm dead. I'm not a promise ring
between them. It's between them,right, But then when you get engaged,
it's between you guys. But it'slike for everybody that loves you too,
you know, so that we cancongratulate you then. But girl,
congrats, not that big step,that big step, but what is the
women? Women? A woman?Congrats off the way. Ye always try
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to mansplay. I know, Iknow it's guy. Yeah, we don't
know what we're doing. Yeah wetrash all right. I can already tell
this interview is going to be veryunhinged, but I like it. Yeah.
What is unhinged? Meant the time? Yes? Yes, so English
second language, so somewhere that's theESL. I was an ESL and remedial.
All good, we hear. Nowwhat does it mean? What were
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we talking about? The definition allover the place. Yeah, say whatever
comes to me. Yeah, allof this stuff should be off record,
but it's not. Yeah right rightright, that's the story of your life,
right that you're pretty unhinged. Itry to how to say it with
on my mind. I chry sometimesI don't have filter and it could be
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a bad thing. You're on theright job then, right, Yeah,
absolutely, yeah, I mean itis what it is. You know what
I'm saying. I mean, theyuplift you, I'm sure, or they
tell you you're being crazy. Weencourage it. Very good, That's what
I mean. Check him in hisplace. But you know, as women,
you got to have us around becausewe will check you guys. Yeah,
absolutely, Jackie tries you know whatI mean, she's little missttitude on
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the show, off the show andoff the show, Jackie very Well,
we're both scorpios. Yeah, buthere's the thing. I'm an October Scorpio.
She's a November Scorpio, and Novemberscorpios are and everybody watching this they're
like us horoscopes. What the fuck? Um? I believe that they are
true a little bit and it definitelygives you a sense of like who somebody
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could be. But she is likethe typical November Scorpio because I have a
brother and a sister who are boththe Vember Scorpios, and they are the
most feisty people I have ever met. They will not they will tell you
you're dumb, like just you knowwhat I mean. But I respect it
though, because you need people likethat in your life to just fight a
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fire on your ass. Yeah,m that you love Yeah, yeah exactly.
But I'm the October Scorpio where likeI feel like I'm a little bit
more of a people pleaser, butI definitely I definitely can have that like
fiery, I'm as well, I'mApril aries. What does that mean?
I don't know. You're in theair. I don't know pretty much.
Am I like aries? Though?Aries are cool? Yeah, very outspoken
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people. Wait, you're like,what a pisces? No he is capricorn?
Shit, well I never said Iwas an astrologist. I'm not fighting
you. Libers are cool. Libsare cool. And this is where I
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make my exit start. I gotyour back, Jackie. Thank you.
So you wanted to be a medicalassistant. No, that's wrong, that's
wrong. Get it um. SoI wanted to be a doctor than I
was in college. I got goodgrades, but I definitely was like,
shit, I do not have thegrades to be a doctor. So it's
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like what else can I do tomake my parents proud and give them some
type of bragging rights. So Iwas like, okay, I'll become a
right because that's what I want todo, what they want to do.
They're like, I don't care.I don't want to say they don't care
about your mental health. But it'slike, you know, we want to
brag to like their mental health.Yeah, we want to brag about you
to your aunties and uncles and yourgrandpa, grandma, Grandpa's like back in
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Vietnam, right, because they wantto feel like they immigrated to America for
like for a reason reason exactly.So I was like, I gotta make
my parents proud. Still, I'llbecome a physicians assistant. And that was
where I was like, Okay,I could still kind of like have more
of a flexible life, but I'mnot a doctor. But it's still a
little bit of bragging rights film themedical field, which is a big deal.
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Yeah, And I moved from likewhen I went back home. When
I finally graduated, I worked inthe dental field. Then I moved to
another dental office. Then I movedto optometry. No, no, no,
I moved to dermatology. Then Imoved to optometry, and then I
was shadowing a physician's assistant at Stanford. So it's like, okay, I'm
gonna do all this, but inthe like my life outside of work in
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school, I would like sneak offto the studio and my parents didn't even
know that I made music, Likethey knew that I Oh yeah, like
I mean not piss pissed, becauseI would allied to them and told them,
oh, it's just it's just likesomething I do on the side,
you know what I mean. Yeah, Because I was still kind of like,
oh, this is kind of myplan b you know, like if
you know music, does it workout? I still have, you know,
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like schooled to fall back on.But I definitely was like hiding that
life from my parents because I wasafraid of what they were going to think.
And then when I finally was goingto apply it to become a PA,
I missed my application date by oneday, and I remember, oh
yeah, I remember. I waslike, my parents are gonna fucking kill
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me. Like I'm already living athome with them. I already feel like
a failure, you know what Imean? And then here I am,
I'm a failure, and here Iam living a double life. Like my
parents had no idea what I wasdoing because also, you know, they
didn't grow up in like the streamingworld or like they watch YouTube but for
like Vietnamese dramas or like recipe videoson how to make whatever. But like
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they never like search me. Theynever knew that I was doing that,
and they never knew, like um, that people would actually listen to my
music. So it wasn't something thatthey were like, oh, she's gonna
be a singer, She's gonna begood, right, But so I was
definitely worried about when my parents weregonna think. But in hindsight now I'm
like, that was the best thingthat happened to me, that I missed
that application date. So yeah,it all happened for a reason. It
all happened. Parents were funny,man. My parents will say, like,
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you're still in the radio. Theystill like you. It's like,
yeah, it's like it's my lifelongmissie and job and career and what I've
poured my entire being into, butyeah, they still like me. Yeah,
I just learned to like kind offilter it all out. Thankfully.
My parents are a lot more onboard now than when I first started.
And I think, honestly, itwas when I got on NBC News,
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like my hometown news station, andthey saw me on TV and all my
like aunties and uncles they like sentthem the video and that was the bragging
right for them, right right right, and they were like, oh shit,
my daughter's famous. And I'm likeI'm not, but okay, like
if that's what it takes them,yeah, but I definitely I definitely know
that, like, you know,they still worry about me, and they're
like, okay, but I thinknow they're less worried about me because they're
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like, Okay, she's able toyou know, provide for herself, and
they understand a little more. Theyunderstand a little more. And also they
come to my shows and they likesee all the fans, and they like,
you know, when I give themshout outs, they're like, oh,
my gosh. My dad would belike, where's the green room,
where's the beer, where's the Heineken? Oh, where's the Oh you don't
have remy Okay, never mind.But like my parents, I think are
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kind of living vicariously through me becausethey're both really good singers, but they
never got to really like pursue that, right, So that's why my dad
loves karaoke, my mom loves karaoke. They love hosting and like singing in
front of their like you know,family members and all that. So now
that their daughter gets to do thatin front of like thousands of people and
they get to like experience that andsee that, I think it makes them
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really emotion through you they are.And so I think like even though I
didn't go into the medical field tomake them proud in that way, I
think like I'm still making them proudin a different way, which also is
making me happy for the most part. And not to get too deep,
but you are still making people feelbetter and feel good. Thank you.
You know. That's what I thinktoo. I think like, in a
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way, I've always wanted to bein the medical fields because I love to
help people and it makes me feelgood to like help people, right,
yeah, exactly. And so nowthat like I get to use my words
and things that like help me whenI'm writing the actual song, and then
now people are listening to it,it's so many messages they're like, yo,
you helped me through like so somuch, And not to get all
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deep and like put their business outthere, but you know they've they've been
on the brink of like giving up, right, And so then they say
that, like listening to your musichas helped me through so much, and
I'm like, holy shit, LikeI am able to help people in a
different way, and I think thatthat is my purpose in this life is
to help people. And I thinkwhether it's through medicine or music, I
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think it really doesn't matter. ButI'm grateful that I'm able to have this
um life now where I can makemyself happy while so making other people feel
good. People out there struggle theirentire life to find their purpose. Yeah,
but it's okay too to like,you know, go through all these
career change because I I always feltlike, fuck, am I ever going
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to be happy in the medical fieldbecause I would get bored, which is
why I'd moved from dental field todental field, to optometry to dermatology to
all of these things, because Ifelt like that wasn't really my purpose,
you know, and I would getbored of these things. I'd learn all
the things I felt like I couldat my education level. Um, but
music has always been something that's likealways constantly changing. It's always exciting,
it's always you're always growing as aperson, you know, never a dull
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moment. And it's really hard becausethis isn't normal, you know, not
a lot of people get the opportunityto like do this and also like make
a living off of it. Sowhen it gets to a certain point where
now this is like your full timejob, yeah, it definitely can get
stressful, but it's all like I'mso blessed, I'm so grateful to like,
do you have a hidden love,like a hidden thing like comedy or
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like you you know, Okay,I something you've always wanted to do another
field, not something that I've alwayswanted to do. But like I think
I'm an okay chef. Like Ithink maybe I would have wanted to like
become a chef in some way.But I also think I'm kind of funny
like on stage. Yeah, Ido. Like I feel like I know
sometimes like I think that being amusician is a little bit similar to being
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a stand up comedian because you know, especially when you have your talking moments,
like if you have multiple, multipleshows that you do every night,
Like when I'm on tour with Lait was like forty shows, right,
and so you have your spiel beforeevery song, and it's kind of like
if you have a you know,a scan, Yeah, it's you're set.
So it's like and I tell peopletoo, because sometimes my fans will
come out to multiple shows. I'mlike, if you hurt the shit already,
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just pretend that you didn't. Andit's a comedian and you have to
like have these like moments where youlike build up the tension and then you
drop the joke and then you dropthe song. But I mean, I'm
not the funniest person don't let I'mnot trying to gasp myself up. Okay,
I'm not all of money, butI will say I can be funny.
So maybe like in the future,I'll have to stand up set,
you know, and then everyone andthen everyone will boom me. I'll be
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like, okay, I'm back tojust saying I'm gonna go cook something'll throw
tomatoes at me. Do you everfear that though? You know, you
see like Bix and she got aphone thrown at her. Fuck, comedians
get attacked all the time. Yeah, that's got to annoy you as a
performer as well, knowing that thatcould happen as well for you, you
are very open to like taking youknow, I am you see me?
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I am and I am. Um. That's why I was like, why
didn't he just hold this phone upto like get her attention? But I
read more that he wasn't. Yeahhe was, he was trying to just
throw it at her. I don'tthink he was trying to like he wasn't
a fan um and correct me ifI'm wrong. I don't know, but
yeah, and I think that that'sterrible. And then also Ava Max just
got like slapped on stage, soI'm like, well, where is this,
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where is this hostility coming from?Because shows are supposed to be like
a safe space for everybody, andespecially as an artist, to your guard
is down on stage and at thelevel at the level of that, it's
like I don't have like high topsecurity right, like we have the venue
security and eventually we'll have a securityteam. But you know, it's scary
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being on stage and thinking of itnow because I'm like, damn, anybody
can just bum rush the stage andthey might check, you know, before
they get in and like make surethey don't have any dangerous things. But
who who thought? Who would havethought a phone would be dangerous? And
now she got two stitches, SoI think I think it's definitely scary,
But I think it's just a reminderto kind of like keep your guard up,
you know, keep your guard downand be vulnerable with your fans,
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but also have it, you know, do you fear that you'll just say
you'll lose it for a second andjumped out there? Okay, fun fact
um, I was a wrestler inhigh school. I was yo, don't
play with her bro And I've definitelygotten a couple of balls in my life,
so um oh, I can't.I definitely, fun fact, I
can fuck you up, yeah,exactly. So as sweet as I may
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seem, and I am sweet,don't get me wrong, I'm very I'm
I love my fans, okay,but if there's somebody that's being disrespectful,
I will not I will not tolerateit. And you know, I probably
wouldn't jump down and like kick theirass because I don't want to end up
on World Star and like you knowand all that, that's just not that's
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not who I am today, right, I don't know if I would,
But here's the thing possible. Youknow, I travel like you know,
I grew up with four brothers andlike that's kind of how I you know
how to fight, I do.But like also, my um my team
is full of boys, so Idon't even think I would be I wouldn't
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have the chance to even hop downthere because I'm sure one of them would
already handle it exactly. So I'mlike, you know, let the men
of ball know, I'm just kidding. We love you guys, um,
but definitely I'm well protected with withmy my team, um and I think
they'll take care of you. ButI hope that doesn't ever happen, like
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because you had to stop her showand yeah, right, And I hope
this doesn't give anyone any ideas,you know what I mean, they're trying
to test her and do something likethat. That's crazy, I know what
catching though? Fuck yeah, Idon't want to go catch her. Three.
You mentioned you know that your yourteam is basically full of boys and
you you work so closely with yourboyfriend. Is there a challenges in that
or how have you guys like gonethrough that? Um? No, Actually,
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I think, um the biggest challengeis, Like, honestly, I
can't really think of a big challenge. I think it's fun to be able
to work with people you love andpeople who know you, because again,
music is such an industry where youmeet so many different people who always like
say that they want the best foryou, but they don't always really want
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the best for you. And Ithink the cool part is, like,
you know, I came to LAwith my DJ who you know, DJ
Cook Beats. He's my DJ,He's one of my best friends. We
lived together, my boyfriend. WeI got into the studio for the first
time because of him. Then westarted writing all my songs together, he
travels with me, he like hedoes so much for me, and he
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wears so many hats for me.And I feel like a lot of times
too, like when you work withpeople who you grew up with and who
are your actual friends, like theydo so much things for you out of
love, right, versus like,oh, that's not my job, you
know what I mean. And soI feel like we all reciprocate and we
all just like love each other andit's like, you know, obviously there's
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times where we talk shit to eachother too, because especially when you're around
a lot of guys, they saythe craziest shit, Like they say the
craziest shit to you. The wildguys say the wildest shit. But it's
also the most fun. Like Ifeel like, um, it's extra unhinged.
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And then we all just we alljust like we all just don't give
a fuck, you know. Um. But I feel like that's the best
part about traveling with your friends,Like you get to really explore every city
together, you get to really bereal with them, yeah, versus like
if you were just hiring on differentpeople to like do certain jobs, and
they would do a good job too, but it's all about vibes. In
this industry, it's all about likepersonalities and yeah, and you feel safe
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around them, right because like yougot to travel with these people forever or
for however long you want your careerto be. And like, I'm all
about like surrounding myself with people whoyou know, love me outside of music,
because I think like that is moreimportant, right because like what if
I'm at a point in my careerwhere it's like I'm not doing shit,
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then it's like, are these peoplestill going to be around? And I
can say yes, because they trulylove me for who I am versus like
ya tweet. Yeah, you knowabsolutely, going back to your parents,
like who takes credit for your voice? Like your mom, They'll they'll argue
about this. Um. I actuallybrought them on stage at one of my
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shows and they were hogging the micand at one point, at one point
good At one point, I waslike trying to get a word in and
they were still singing. I waslike, Oh, it's not over.
My parents love to sing. Theyboth are great singers. I don't know,
I would say both of them.I would say both of them.
They're charisma for sure. Get fromboth of them or from my dad,
I'd say he's more of like thehost of the house, like he loves
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to, you know, bring overhis friends and make sure that they're good
and all that. Oh. Absolutely, And I feel like kind of that's
what I take onto my shows aswell, Like I feel like I'm a
host, Like I'm like I tomake sure everybody's having a good time and
like the party's cool, you knowwhat I mean. I feel like you're
the type of person if you seesomeone in the crowd that they're like not
giving you the vibe, You're like, hey, are you okay? Yes?
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Absolutely absolutely, Because I'm also likeI feel I feed off people's energy,
So like when you guys are givingme good energy, I'm gonna give
it like ten times back. AndI feel like that's kind of how when
you host a party, right,Like you want to make sure everybody's good,
everybody's having good time. So that'skind of where I got like that
from my dad. But I'd sayboth of them. Both of them are
are really great singers. I thinkin another life they would have pursued singing,
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but you know they had album,right, dude, that would be
ultimate gift for my parents. Ifeel like, just to get them in
the studio and make a song forthose and they would slap that every single
day, Yeah, all day,every single day. Yeah No. I
saw jay Z. He was performingat the Louis Vazon show and everybody was
going crazy vibe and one guy wearinga bandana's just standing there. So he
stopped a performance and he was like, bro, are we ready? Now?
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I need you I like yo,like, hey, I need you
ready, And then they started overand the guys jumping fire. Yeah like
you you you have to connect.That energy has to be right. And
like comedians, if one person's notlaughing now, they're just focused on that
one person. Oh now, nowI'm gonna make fun of you. No,
I won't make fun of you,but I like, as a stand
up comedian, I feel like I'mgonna make you laugh, you know.
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Yeah, yeah, I gotta roastyou. Yeah right, I hate him.
I hate Tweety You want um?A radio contest in the Bay,
Yes, it was so. Itwas one or six point one came all
the home turf competition. I stillthink they run it to this day.
But that was kind of the momentfor me where I was like, oh,
I think I can actually make itin music, right. And it
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was crazy because it wasn't like fanswere um voting. It was really all
my friends, right, all good. Whatever you want, Hey, whatever
you send, you send the linkout to all your friends, people you
haven't seen in you know, sincehigh school, and you're like, Yo,
I'm bla bla blah blah blah,and you guys vote for me.
We ended up with and I rememberthey spun the song and I was like,
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I was geeking out in the car. I was just like, oh
my god, I'm on the radios. The first time I was on the
radio, and I remember Big Vaughanhe Um he saw the like Twitter comments
from my friends again. He waslike, Yo, Twitter's going off right
now. I'm gonna play that shitagain. So I was like, oh
shit. So that was the moment. It was like a catalyst right for
me to just like put a littlebit more effort into my music. And
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then from then I was like consistent. I was like, you know,
releasing music every month or so.And then that was leading up to me
missing the application day and then aroom started to open up in Los Angeles.
I was like, I guess thisis kind of the right time for
me to just quit my job.And I had, like, I had
like two thousand dollars in my savingsaccount. I didn't have a job lined
up, but I was like,I think I need to just do it.
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Um. So it was all theselike moments right in life where it
was like that led me to whereI'm at today. So that was,
yeah, the one I'm not yourmove, Oh no, not at all.
I'm like, I'm all in typeof girl, like I'll I could
have two thousand dollars and I'm like, oh the music videos two thousand dollars.
Bet, that's what it is.That's exactly what it is, right
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exactly. Yeah, so radio isvery important to you, right jump off
to your career. Absolutely. Vaughanis the man, absolute legend in radio
and in the Bay. That's lovethat guy so nice. I got to
meet him um the other day too, when not the other day, but
like maybe a month ago. Iwas over at I Heart Um in the
Bay and I got to go visithim and kind of tell him that like
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that that was the moment for me. So that was really cool too.
That's very circle moment, full circlefor sure, what's jack? Do you
ever think about making a Latin collapse? I would actually, Um, I
I love like Latin culture. Iactually uh grew up like best friends with
this Latina girl. And um whenI went to college college college, Um,
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I lived on the Chicano Latina floor. So all of my friends or
like Latin or Mexican or just ofthat um descent. And like I just
I felt like I was a littleLatino girl, Like I definitely feel like
I have a little bit of thatin me. But like, uh,
I have so much love, soso much love. Um. And I
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also like I took Spanish for ap and I was really good, Like
I I know a little bit ofSpanish. Say do you know um,
but like if you were to saysomething maybe slow, like maybe I could
understand, Like I just like takea little bit and then I use my
context clues to be like I thinkthis is what he's talking about. Oh,
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you don't ever ask a woman,I know, um little stock so
o oh oh any time are youkidding me? Are you kidding anytime?
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All day? Yeah? Okay,it could be hot as fun. Okay,
all hot girls love soup. Yeah, a hot girls love soup.
Like that. No, I'm I'mnot kidding. And maybe it's because we
have a little bit of trauma andwe want like comfort food to like help
us through these things. But Ican eat soup. I can eat soup
all the time, all the time. Sodium levels are out of here,
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but like I love it. Ijust love soup. Yeah. As a
songwriter who inspires you, what inspiresyou? Yeah, so life, my
own personal heartbreaks, I'm a littlebit too real when it comes to that.
Um, I wish I wasn't,but I don't. I don't think.
I don't think you know any otherway. No, I feel like
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the best songs that I make comefrom me being vulnerable. Like yeah,
and you know, a lot ofthe things are things that I know.
Like I can't talk about things Idon't know, Like certain people can write
like fantasies or fairy tales or likeyou know what I mean, that type
of thing. That's cool too,because I think that that takes a lot
of um, you got to bereally creative to do that. For me,
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I can only speak about what Iknow, and I've always been that
type of way. Like you know, when you do a lecture, if
you if your teacher asked you tolike do a presentation, and you don't
know the ship, You're not goingto give a good presentation. But if
you know it really well, yeah, yeah, no for sure. So
I feel like that's kind of nothow I like to go into making music.
But I definitely like to pull frompersonal experiences because it's the only way
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I know how. And also Ifeel like it's therapy for me. It's
free therapy that is, like Iget to just black out on the mic
and just tap into like my soul, you know, and it makes me
feel good. And then when Irelease the music, I feel like people
can feel that energy. And Idon't know how to explain it. And
I'm not a very like how youyou know, the term universe and like
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energy and zodiac signs and all this. Don't get me wrong, I'm not
like an overly like spiritual person,but I do believe that music can be
very spiritual. And so like whenI release music that I have like a
lot of energy in, then whenI release it and people can feel that
wherever they're located. And I dobelieve that music does bet my music does
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better when I put all my energyinto transferring yeah, that's what I feel
like. I do. I dofeel like that. That is why my
music is so relatable, is becausea lot of it is based on true
events and the things that I know. But that's really what inspires me,
Like it's when you feel it's tooyou're listening to girls like me Don't Cry
Deluxe version, all streaming platforms.Thank you so much that that energy is
there and that honesty, the honestybleeds through. I believe you feel me
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there. You're not front and fromNoble No. I wrote that song about
moving to Los Angeles with barely think, barely anything in my savings or my
pockets, but just a whole bunchof tissues because I grew up just being
like the ultimate cry baby. ButI pretend like I'm strong. Yeah yeah,
yeah, right right right yeah youyou well, you are a tough
cookie, I think, right,but you know, just like anybody you're
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you're just as soft as anyone canbe. Vulnerable. Absolutely, I'm definitely
a softie. Growing up, Iused to have this nickname in Vietnamese called
Jabail and um it meant cry baby. My uncle gave that to me because
I used to cry all the timeand I asked my mom. I was
like, hey, did I usedto cry all the time? She said,
dude, you used to cry whenyou were hungry, when you were
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when you were fed, when youwere happy, when you were sad.
And I'm like, I'm so sorry, Like I'm sorry you how to deal
with that? But um, Ido feel like maybe that's why I'm very
in tune with my feelings. Yeah, it made you a songwriter. It
made me a songwriter. And Iyeah, I've always been a little songbird,
even as a little baby, alittle girl. That's right. Yesterday
I was still crying, really cryall the time. Yeah, we gotta
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let it out, you know,I let it out right. Yeah,
it's not weak. I don't thinkit's weak to cry. I think I
think he's contemplating it. Nah,start crying right now. Yeah, I'm
thinking I'm about a cry with you. And by the way, and by
the way, if you're watching right, you think, oh, she had
two thousand dollars, Like, yo, bro, at least you had that,
like two thousand dollars in la istwo dollars, I mean rent is
like what it was twelve hundred bro, It takes one hundred dollars to leave
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the house. Yeah, and Icouldn't at least I couldn't get a job
when I moved out here, AndI thought I was like, not that
I was hot shit in the servingworld, but I was like, I
feel like I'm a I'm a goodperson. The people can see that.
But there's so many good people herein LA and especially everybody here who's trying
to chase their dreams. Like servingwas like the easiest job for everybody.
Where did you get into, dude? I applied everywhere. I applied to
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everywhere, like literally everywhere, evenlike Paniti Grill. I couldn't get hired
there, a cheesecake factory, couldn'tget hired there, Buffalo Waw Wings,
No I didn't. I probably theywould have denied me too, because everybody
had of Carl's Julian and they werelike no, sir, no thank you.
Yeah, I couldn't get a job, and it was it was really
sad, but I'm kind of I'mgreat for I didn't give up. And
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I definitely have that mentality of justlike you just can't give up, you
know, no matter like what.And I feel like when you get to
that lowest low is then when doorsstart opening for you. Sure. Yeah,
So I'm a firm believer and yougotta you know, and you said
this a few minutes ago, yougotta be all in. You know,
if you have a backup plan,I guess that's okay. You know,
if you have school and stuff,that's always great. You know, there's
nothing wrong with that. But neverplanned to fail totally. Oh I like
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that, yeah, because because I'malso like a firm believer that, like,
you can have a backup plan,because I think like, especially as
a musician that's starting out, youhave to have something to fund it,
right. So for me, itwas like I would I would work in
the medical field so that I wouldhave money to pay for my music videos
or studio time. So I thinkthat that was really important for me to
think about too, obviously, likeI wanted to make music work, right,
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But at the same time, Iwas very realistic that if it doesn't,
at least I have my medical fieldto kind of fall back on.
But I but I was I wasn'treally lying on it though. I was
like, I'm still gonna work onehundred and twenty percent so that I can
make music work, right. Um, So I think it's okay to kind
of like do both and also bereally tired, because I think that's what
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it takes to get to where youwant to be. It's gonna be tiring,
it's gonna be hard, but youcan't give up on it if you
really want to do that. It'sgonna suck. There's many times where I
felt like giving up, and youwant to give up in life and you
just want to, you know,hide, Yeah, and that's when you
have to not hide. You haveto you know, you got to push
through that the next level for sure. Are you okay with being a role
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model? I am. Yeah.A lot of artists are not okay with
it because like, yeah, I'mnot raising your kids. No. And
I think, like in a sense, like I'm I'm an older sister to
a lot of you know, mycommunity. Like I get a lot of
messages from like Vietnamese boys and girlsjust telling me how much they see me
as an older sister and they callme chee high, which means older sister
(31:55):
in Vietnamese Chi hichee hi. Yeah, And I love that because like I
wish I had somebody like that kindof growing up, because I think if
I had, I probably would havestarted music a lot sooner. But I
think because I only had cousins thatlike were doctors or lawyers or did something
like that, I was like,Oh, I guess I'll just follow in
their footsteps, right. So it'skind of the same mentality of like,
if I had somebody to look upto that was doing what I wanted to
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do and they look like me,then I think I can do it too.
And I think that, like,you know, I'm not saying I'm
perfect. Nobody's perfect. Um.I definitely like have shit that I deal
with. UM, And I wouldn'tnecessarily call myself the best role model,
but I think I I am somebodythat they can look up to to kind
of like follow, right, um, And yeah, and learn from because
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I don't. Again, I'm notsaying I have the blueprint for it,
but I definitely think that I've walkedin a path that is not very normal
for people in my culture. Soyou know, maybe you guys can look
at what I'm doing and be like, oh and learn from it. Yeah,
I do, no, because it'sit's actually laughable that I'm where I'm
at today. No, I swearthat because I didn't grow up I didn't
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grow up in vocal classes. Ididn't grow up, you know, going
to piano classes. I have moneyfor that, like guitar classes anything like
that. But I had this crazydream and I used to listen to so
much Brittany, Christina glam where Icarry a vaunt to me, a like
Brandy, all of those people,right, and I would just like mimic
them and I would be in theback house pretending that I was them on
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stage. So I had this likedelusional dream like my entire life, but
I wasn't doing anything towards it becauseI felt so much pressure to be in
the medical field or do something formy edge. Right. No, but
in my delusional mind, I waslike, I'm still going to be a
singer. I was I doing anythingtowards it, No, Like I really
wasn't. I was singing like anybodyon the street when I was drunk in
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college, but it was that wasn'tgonna get me anything, you know.
And I was the shyest person too. So I think I'm like the person
that like didn't have everything lined upfor her but still somehow made it to
where she's at because she had adream. She worked really hard at it
and she just like worked every singleday to perfect her craft, you know.
Um, So I think that that, like hopefully is inspiring because I
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know a lot of times, youknow, I was always felt like I
couldn't do it because I'd look atsomebody that's doing it and be like,
Okay, like they they went toschool for this, or like they did
this, Oh their parents are youknow whoever they are whatever? Right,
So I always felt like very discouraged. Um, So hopefully they can look
at what I'm doing and be likedamn, she didn't have any of those
things and still was able to getto where she's at. So not as
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major congratulations, thank you, thankyou so much. You know, I
wanted to talk about tweet because youyou've been in LA for a minute now.
What's your favorite thing about about Laand favorite thing about the bay?
Ooh? Um, I really likeLA because I feel always inspired. I
think the energy is really high hereand everybody's trying to chase a dream and
(34:53):
everybody's everybody's working, and um,I think the difference between the Bay is
that like the pay he closes atlike nine pm sometimes, you know,
and then you just like all youneed all you feel like doing is going
to sleep. Um, but whenI'm back here in La, I feel
like I have a good routine.I'm working out, I'm juicing, I'm
going on walks, I'm writing.I know, right, but I definitely
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feel like I definitely feel like no, but like truly, I feel like
I'm working on myself as a person. And then also you should all go
together, let's do it. Butyeah, I just feel like, um,
the energy is here and it makesyou want to keep striving for your
dreams. Um. But what Ilove about the bay is like it's always
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going to feel like home. Youknow. When I'm back there, I
feel so loved. I feel likeuncomfortable. Yeah yeah. Um. It
also helps that like my parents makeall the meals that I love, Like,
dude, anytime my mom was like, hey, when are you coming
back? All right, what doyou want to eat? Like that's their
love language. Um, I loveyou, oh absolutely. And now I
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feel like they're even more in tunewith their emotions too. Like growing up,
my parents never really told me thatthey love me, that they're proud
of me, But now they likesay that to me. They're like beautiful,
Like we're proud of you, um, and what do you want to
eat? So I just feel likegrowing, growing, and it's healing my
inner child for sure. Yeah.You know, a female of Vietnamese accent
(36:19):
is so pretty. I think,yeah, it's beautiful. I was telling
them that the other day. Ithink there's just a sound to it.
I don't know what it is.And certain sounds in certain you know,
make make people feel different. Butit's it's it's almost like art almost in
a way. For sure. Yeah, and it can you believe that certain
people actually think it sounds like uglyand they like it sounds weird, and
I'm like, okay, well you'reweird. Yeah, it almost sounds like
(36:43):
an art form. I believe it'sa complicated language, or it can be,
I guess for certain people. Iknow it would be for me.
But the sound of the accent isvery beautiful. No, for sure,
I love. I want to learnmore actually because now I feel like my
I have so many fans in Vietnamthat I'm like, I need to like
get back to my roots, youknow, and and and learn more.
Um. But you know we'll gettheir dual lingo. Do you know Jackie
(37:07):
has a hard time saying Vietnamese.Really yeah, I think I think yeah,
yeah, yeah. Sometimes you sayVietnamese or like it's hard for her
to say it, but it's okay. There's certain words that like everyone has
trouble saying. I know you don'tmean any like malice. I was like,
no, no, no, no, yeah, it's hard to say.
I can't say what was the wordcarp carpement, carpementalized, god,
(37:29):
bless, I can't say that carpementumcarpementalized. Am I saying it right?
No? No, I don't thinkcarpet. I don't think I could even
say it. Hard. My littlecousin m he used to say remember,
like remember and I'd be like no, I'd be like remember remember. He'd
be like remember and I'd be remember, okay, say he remember my brother,
(37:49):
my brother, one of my brothers, a full blown adult, two
kids, And he says math notmath, math math. He's like,
yeah, man, you know I'mnot good at math. You're not good
at saying it either. You knowit's all bad. Yo. Hey tweet,
thank you so much for your time. Thank you, Sorry you are
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I'm doing really good? Doing good? How? How? What? What
shoe size is the one? AllI see is this ty shoes. I
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just see the shoelaces, some littletoes. It's like yo locker. Honestly,
I did a thing with Flight Cluband they gave me credits, and
I just I don't even know whatsize I am because I think these are
men's but I'm a six and ahalf women's, Okay, so what is
that? Like a five men's?I don't know. I think that's uh.
I think you youth. I amyou, though youth. I don't
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think you into good for youth?Their force ones yep, yeah, you
get them for like what eighty bucks. I don't see the problem. Cheap
code, the cheap code exactly,I'm buying buying your kids feats when they're
young. Don't let them grow andthen you just think, you know,
(01:06):
that's it that's how you do it, man. Sorry, what happened though?
With my Asian parents are like youcan fit this, We don't need
to You don't need to go upthe side. Oh yeah. The thing
like my dad, he's not themost frugal. He loves to spend money
on like stereo equipment, karaoke equipment. My mom's a frugal one, but
(01:26):
she likes to spend money on likejuicers and like and like um stand mixers
and like the things that she youknow what I mean, like loves to
do, but like she won't,like she'll she won't let my dad buy
like Astero without giving him ship first. Sorry can I cuss? But yeah,
they're definitely growing up. My momwas very very frugal, and sometimes
(01:48):
I like sense that about myself too. Yeah right, And like if I
want to buy something, I canlike spend hell of money here. But
then if it's like, oh,a coffee's like six bucks, I'm like
what, Yeah, it's a problem. You start thinking about like the other
things you can buy for six bucks. Exactly six bags of hot cheetos.
Right now, they're not a dollaranymore that you seeing a dollar now,
(02:14):
it's like one ninety nine. Inflation, Bro, it's going up. It's
killing us for sure. Yeah,so three bags girls like me, don't
cry all streaming platforms, tweets here, Cruise Show Real ninety two. Three
quick observation. You and Jackie bothhave rings on your middle finger. What's
going on here? I don't know. Yeah, okay, yeah, like
(02:35):
a big it's like a stylish thing. No, it's just so that when
we put people off, it's likecute, you know, cute? Yeah,
yeah, keep a cute Yeah yeah, I don't know. I think
it's just like I don't know.We haven't gotten to the ring finger yet.
No, recently got that ring fromher Man and us, Yeah,
Nico, and like we didn't know, Like do we say congratulations? I
didn't say congratulates. That's the realthing. Well, um, congrats on
(02:59):
a moving No no, no,I'm dead. I'm not a promise ring
between them. It's between them,right, But then when you get engaged,
it's between you guys. But it'slike for everybody that loves you too,
you know, so that we cancongratulate you then. But girl,
congrats, not that big step,that big step, but what is the
women? Women? A woman?Congrats off the way. Ye always try
(03:23):
to mansplay. I know, Iknow it's guy. Yeah, we don't
know what we're doing. Yeah wetrash all right. I can already tell
this interview is going to be veryunhinged, but I like it. Yeah.
What is unhinged? Meant the time? Yes? Yes, so English
second language, so somewhere that's theESL. I was an ESL and remedial.
All good, we hear. Nowwhat does it mean? What were
(03:44):
we talking about? The definition allover the place. Yeah, say whatever
comes to me. Yeah, allof this stuff should be off record,
but it's not. Yeah right rightright, that's the story of your life,
right that you're pretty unhinged. Itry to how to say it with
on my mind. I chry sometimesI don't have filter and it could be
(04:05):
a bad thing. You're on theright job then, right, Yeah,
absolutely, yeah, I mean itis what it is. You know what
I'm saying. I mean, theyuplift you, I'm sure, or they
tell you you're being crazy. Weencourage it. Very good, That's what
I mean. Check him in hisplace. But you know, as women,
you got to have us around becausewe will check you guys. Yeah,
absolutely, Jackie tries you know whatI mean, she's little missttitude on
(04:27):
the show, off the show andoff the show, Jackie very Well,
we're both scorpios. Yeah, buthere's the thing. I'm an October Scorpio.
She's a November Scorpio, and Novemberscorpios are and everybody watching this they're
like us horoscopes. What the fuck? Um? I believe that they are
true a little bit and it definitelygives you a sense of like who somebody
(04:47):
could be. But she is likethe typical November Scorpio because I have a
brother and a sister who are boththe Vember Scorpios, and they are the
most feisty people I have ever met. They will not they will tell you
you're dumb, like just you knowwhat I mean. But I respect it
though, because you need people likethat in your life to just fight a
(05:10):
fire on your ass. Yeah,m that you love Yeah, yeah exactly.
But I'm the October Scorpio where likeI feel like I'm a little bit
more of a people pleaser, butI definitely I definitely can have that like
fiery, I'm as well, I'mApril aries. What does that mean?
I don't know. You're in theair. I don't know pretty much.
Am I like aries? Though?Aries are cool? Yeah, very outspoken
(05:32):
people. Wait, you're like,what a pisces? No he is capricorn?
Shit, well I never said Iwas an astrologist. I'm not fighting
you. Libers are cool. Libsare cool. And this is where I
(05:55):
make my exit start. I gotyour back, Jackie. Thank you.
So you wanted to be a medicalassistant. No, that's wrong, that's
wrong. Get it um. SoI wanted to be a doctor than I
was in college. I got goodgrades, but I definitely was like,
shit, I do not have thegrades to be a doctor. So it's
(06:15):
like what else can I do tomake my parents proud and give them some
type of bragging rights. So Iwas like, okay, I'll become a
right because that's what I want todo, what they want to do.
They're like, I don't care.I don't want to say they don't care
about your mental health. But it'slike, you know, we want to
brag to like their mental health.Yeah, we want to brag about you
to your aunties and uncles and yourgrandpa, grandma, Grandpa's like back in
(06:39):
Vietnam, right, because they wantto feel like they immigrated to America for
like for a reason reason exactly.So I was like, I gotta make
my parents proud. Still, I'llbecome a physicians assistant. And that was
where I was like, Okay,I could still kind of like have more
of a flexible life, but I'mnot a doctor. But it's still a
little bit of bragging rights film themedical field, which is a big deal.
(07:01):
Yeah, And I moved from likewhen I went back home. When
I finally graduated, I worked inthe dental field. Then I moved to
another dental office. Then I movedto optometry. No, no, no,
I moved to dermatology. Then Imoved to optometry, and then I
was shadowing a physician's assistant at Stanford. So it's like, okay, I'm
gonna do all this, but inthe like my life outside of work in
(07:26):
school, I would like sneak offto the studio and my parents didn't even
know that I made music, Likethey knew that I Oh yeah, like
I mean not piss pissed, becauseI would allied to them and told them,
oh, it's just it's just likesomething I do on the side,
you know what I mean. Yeah, Because I was still kind of like,
oh, this is kind of myplan b you know, like if
you know music, does it workout? I still have, you know,
(07:47):
like schooled to fall back on.But I definitely was like hiding that
life from my parents because I wasafraid of what they were going to think.
And then when I finally was goingto apply it to become a PA,
I missed my application date by oneday, and I remember, oh
yeah, I remember. I waslike, my parents are gonna fucking kill
(08:07):
me. Like I'm already living athome with them. I already feel like
a failure, you know what Imean? And then here I am,
I'm a failure, and here Iam living a double life. Like my
parents had no idea what I wasdoing because also, you know, they
didn't grow up in like the streamingworld or like they watch YouTube but for
like Vietnamese dramas or like recipe videoson how to make whatever. But like
(08:30):
they never like search me. Theynever knew that I was doing that,
and they never knew, like um, that people would actually listen to my
music. So it wasn't something thatthey were like, oh, she's gonna
be a singer, She's gonna begood, right, But so I was
definitely worried about when my parents weregonna think. But in hindsight now I'm
like, that was the best thingthat happened to me, that I missed
that application date. So yeah,it all happened for a reason. It
all happened. Parents were funny,man. My parents will say, like,
(08:52):
you're still in the radio. Theystill like you. It's like,
yeah, it's like it's my lifelongmissie and job and career and what I've
poured my entire being into, butyeah, they still like me. Yeah,
I just learned to like kind offilter it all out. Thankfully.
My parents are a lot more onboard now than when I first started.
And I think, honestly, itwas when I got on NBC News,
(09:16):
like my hometown news station, andthey saw me on TV and all my
like aunties and uncles they like sentthem the video and that was the bragging
right for them, right right right, and they were like, oh shit,
my daughter's famous. And I'm likeI'm not, but okay, like
if that's what it takes them,yeah, but I definitely I definitely know
that, like, you know,they still worry about me, and they're
like, okay, but I thinknow they're less worried about me because they're
(09:37):
like, Okay, she's able toyou know, provide for herself, and
they understand a little more. Theyunderstand a little more. And also they
come to my shows and they likesee all the fans, and they like,
you know, when I give themshout outs, they're like, oh,
my gosh. My dad would belike, where's the green room,
where's the beer, where's the Heineken? Oh, where's the Oh you don't
have remy Okay, never mind.But like my parents, I think are
(10:00):
kind of living vicariously through me becausethey're both really good singers, but they
never got to really like pursue that, right, So that's why my dad
loves karaoke, my mom loves karaoke. They love hosting and like singing in
front of their like you know,family members and all that. So now
that their daughter gets to do thatin front of like thousands of people and
they get to like experience that andsee that, I think it makes them
(10:22):
really emotion through you they are.And so I think like even though I
didn't go into the medical field tomake them proud in that way, I
think like I'm still making them proudin a different way, which also is
making me happy for the most part. And not to get too deep,
but you are still making people feelbetter and feel good. Thank you.
You know. That's what I thinktoo. I think like, in a
(10:43):
way, I've always wanted to bein the medical fields because I love to
help people and it makes me feelgood to like help people, right,
yeah, exactly. And so nowthat like I get to use my words
and things that like help me whenI'm writing the actual song, and then
now people are listening to it,it's so many messages they're like, yo,
you helped me through like so somuch, And not to get all
(11:03):
deep and like put their business outthere, but you know they've they've been
on the brink of like giving up, right, And so then they say
that, like listening to your musichas helped me through so much, and
I'm like, holy shit, LikeI am able to help people in a
different way, and I think thatthat is my purpose in this life is
to help people. And I thinkwhether it's through medicine or music, I
(11:24):
think it really doesn't matter. ButI'm grateful that I'm able to have this
um life now where I can makemyself happy while so making other people feel
good. People out there struggle theirentire life to find their purpose. Yeah,
but it's okay too to like,you know, go through all these
career change because I I always feltlike, fuck, am I ever going
(11:45):
to be happy in the medical fieldbecause I would get bored, which is
why I'd moved from dental field todental field, to optometry to dermatology to
all of these things, because Ifelt like that wasn't really my purpose,
you know, and I would getbored of these things. I'd learn all
the things I felt like I couldat my education level. Um, but
music has always been something that's likealways constantly changing. It's always exciting,
it's always you're always growing as aperson, you know, never a dull
(12:09):
moment. And it's really hard becausethis isn't normal, you know, not
a lot of people get the opportunityto like do this and also like make
a living off of it. Sowhen it gets to a certain point where
now this is like your full timejob, yeah, it definitely can get
stressful, but it's all like I'mso blessed, I'm so grateful to like,
do you have a hidden love,like a hidden thing like comedy or
(12:31):
like you you know, Okay,I something you've always wanted to do another
field, not something that I've alwayswanted to do. But like I think
I'm an okay chef. Like Ithink maybe I would have wanted to like
become a chef in some way.But I also think I'm kind of funny
like on stage. Yeah, Ido. Like I feel like I know
sometimes like I think that being amusician is a little bit similar to being
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a stand up comedian because you know, especially when you have your talking moments,
like if you have multiple, multipleshows that you do every night,
Like when I'm on tour with Lait was like forty shows, right,
and so you have your spiel beforeevery song, and it's kind of like
if you have a you know,a scan, Yeah, it's you're set.
So it's like and I tell peopletoo, because sometimes my fans will
come out to multiple shows. I'mlike, if you hurt the shit already,
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just pretend that you didn't. Andit's a comedian and you have to
like have these like moments where youlike build up the tension and then you
drop the joke and then you dropthe song. But I mean, I'm
not the funniest person don't let I'mnot trying to gasp myself up. Okay,
I'm not all of money, butI will say I can be funny.
So maybe like in the future,I'll have to stand up set,
you know, and then everyone andthen everyone will boom me. I'll be
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like, okay, I'm back tojust saying I'm gonna go cook something'll throw
tomatoes at me. Do you everfear that though? You know, you
see like Bix and she got aphone thrown at her. Fuck, comedians
get attacked all the time. Yeah, that's got to annoy you as a
performer as well, knowing that thatcould happen as well for you, you
are very open to like taking youknow, I am you see me?
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I am and I am. Um. That's why I was like, why
didn't he just hold this phone upto like get her attention? But I
read more that he wasn't. Yeahhe was, he was trying to just
throw it at her. I don'tthink he was trying to like he wasn't
a fan um and correct me ifI'm wrong. I don't know, but
yeah, and I think that that'sterrible. And then also Ava Max just
got like slapped on stage, soI'm like, well, where is this,
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where is this hostility coming from?Because shows are supposed to be like
a safe space for everybody, andespecially as an artist, to your guard
is down on stage and at thelevel at the level of that, it's
like I don't have like high topsecurity right, like we have the venue
security and eventually we'll have a securityteam. But you know, it's scary
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being on stage and thinking of itnow because I'm like, damn, anybody
can just bum rush the stage andthey might check, you know, before
they get in and like make surethey don't have any dangerous things. But
who who thought? Who would havethought a phone would be dangerous? And
now she got two stitches, SoI think I think it's definitely scary,
But I think it's just a reminderto kind of like keep your guard up,
you know, keep your guard downand be vulnerable with your fans,
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but also have it, you know, do you fear that you'll just say
you'll lose it for a second andjumped out there? Okay, fun fact
um, I was a wrestler inhigh school. I was yo, don't
play with her bro And I've definitelygotten a couple of balls in my life,
so um oh, I can't.I definitely, fun fact, I
can fuck you up, yeah,exactly. So as sweet as I may
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seem, and I am sweet,don't get me wrong, I'm very I'm
I love my fans, okay,but if there's somebody that's being disrespectful,
I will not I will not tolerateit. And you know, I probably
wouldn't jump down and like kick theirass because I don't want to end up
on World Star and like you knowand all that, that's just not that's
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not who I am today, right, I don't know if I would,
But here's the thing possible. Youknow, I travel like you know,
I grew up with four brothers andlike that's kind of how I you know
how to fight, I do.But like also, my um my team
is full of boys, so Idon't even think I would be I wouldn't
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have the chance to even hop downthere because I'm sure one of them would
already handle it exactly. So I'mlike, you know, let the men
of ball know, I'm just kidding. We love you guys, um,
but definitely I'm well protected with withmy my team, um and I think
they'll take care of you. ButI hope that doesn't ever happen, like
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because you had to stop her showand yeah, right, And I hope
this doesn't give anyone any ideas,you know what I mean, they're trying
to test her and do something likethat. That's crazy, I know what
catching though? Fuck yeah, Idon't want to go catch her. Three.
You mentioned you know that your yourteam is basically full of boys and
you you work so closely with yourboyfriend. Is there a challenges in that
or how have you guys like gonethrough that? Um? No, Actually,
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I think, um the biggest challengeis, Like, honestly, I
can't really think of a big challenge. I think it's fun to be able
to work with people you love andpeople who know you, because again,
music is such an industry where youmeet so many different people who always like
say that they want the best foryou, but they don't always really want
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the best for you. And Ithink the cool part is, like,
you know, I came to LAwith my DJ who you know, DJ
Cook Beats. He's my DJ,He's one of my best friends. We
lived together, my boyfriend. WeI got into the studio for the first
time because of him. Then westarted writing all my songs together, he
travels with me, he like hedoes so much for me, and he
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wears so many hats for me.And I feel like a lot of times
too, like when you work withpeople who you grew up with and who
are your actual friends, like theydo so much things for you out of
love, right, versus like,oh, that's not my job, you
know what I mean. And soI feel like we all reciprocate and we
all just like love each other andit's like, you know, obviously there's
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times where we talk shit to eachother too, because especially when you're around
a lot of guys, they saythe craziest shit, Like they say the
craziest shit to you. The wildguys say the wildest shit. But it's
also the most fun. Like Ifeel like, um, it's extra unhinged.
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And then we all just we alljust like we all just don't give
a fuck, you know. Um. But I feel like that's the best
part about traveling with your friends,Like you get to really explore every city
together, you get to really bereal with them, yeah, versus like
if you were just hiring on differentpeople to like do certain jobs, and
they would do a good job too, but it's all about vibes. In
this industry, it's all about likepersonalities and yeah, and you feel safe
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around them, right because like yougot to travel with these people forever or
for however long you want your careerto be. And like, I'm all
about like surrounding myself with people whoyou know, love me outside of music,
because I think like that is moreimportant, right because like what if
I'm at a point in my careerwhere it's like I'm not doing shit,
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then it's like, are these peoplestill going to be around? And I
can say yes, because they trulylove me for who I am versus like
ya tweet. Yeah, you knowabsolutely, going back to your parents,
like who takes credit for your voice? Like your mom, They'll they'll argue
about this. Um. I actuallybrought them on stage at one of my
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shows and they were hogging the micand at one point, at one point
good At one point, I waslike trying to get a word in and
they were still singing. I waslike, Oh, it's not over.
My parents love to sing. Theyboth are great singers. I don't know,
I would say both of them.I would say both of them.
They're charisma for sure. Get fromboth of them or from my dad,
I'd say he's more of like thehost of the house, like he loves
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to, you know, bring overhis friends and make sure that they're good
and all that. Oh. Absolutely, And I feel like kind of that's
what I take onto my shows aswell, Like I feel like I'm a
host, Like I'm like I tomake sure everybody's having a good time and
like the party's cool, you knowwhat I mean. I feel like you're
the type of person if you seesomeone in the crowd that they're like not
giving you the vibe, You're like, hey, are you okay? Yes?
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Absolutely absolutely, Because I'm also likeI feel I feed off people's energy,
So like when you guys are givingme good energy, I'm gonna give
it like ten times back. AndI feel like that's kind of how when
you host a party, right,Like you want to make sure everybody's good,
everybody's having good time. So that'skind of where I got like that
from my dad. But I'd sayboth of them. Both of them are
are really great singers. I thinkin another life they would have pursued singing,
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but you know they had album,right, dude, that would be
ultimate gift for my parents. Ifeel like, just to get them in
the studio and make a song forthose and they would slap that every single
day, Yeah, all day,every single day. Yeah No. I
saw jay Z. He was performingat the Louis Vazon show and everybody was
going crazy vibe and one guy wearinga bandana's just standing there. So he
stopped a performance and he was like, bro, are we ready? Now?
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I need you I like yo,like, hey, I need you
ready, And then they started overand the guys jumping fire. Yeah like
you you you have to connect.That energy has to be right. And
like comedians, if one person's notlaughing now, they're just focused on that
one person. Oh now, nowI'm gonna make fun of you. No,
I won't make fun of you,but I like, as a stand
up comedian, I feel like I'mgonna make you laugh, you know.
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Yeah, yeah, I gotta roastyou. Yeah right, I hate him.
I hate Tweety You want um?A radio contest in the Bay,
Yes, it was so. Itwas one or six point one came all
the home turf competition. I stillthink they run it to this day.
But that was kind of the momentfor me where I was like, oh,
I think I can actually make itin music, right. And it
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was crazy because it wasn't like fanswere um voting. It was really all
my friends, right, all good. Whatever you want, Hey, whatever
you send, you send the linkout to all your friends, people you
haven't seen in you know, sincehigh school, and you're like, Yo,
I'm bla bla blah blah blah,and you guys vote for me.
We ended up with and I rememberthey spun the song and I was like,
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I was geeking out in the car. I was just like, oh
my god, I'm on the radios. The first time I was on the
radio, and I remember Big Vaughanhe Um he saw the like Twitter comments
from my friends again. He waslike, Yo, Twitter's going off right
now. I'm gonna play that shitagain. So I was like, oh
shit. So that was the moment. It was like a catalyst right for
me to just like put a littlebit more effort into my music. And
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then from then I was like consistent. I was like, you know,
releasing music every month or so.And then that was leading up to me
missing the application day and then aroom started to open up in Los Angeles.
I was like, I guess thisis kind of the right time for
me to just quit my job.And I had, like, I had
like two thousand dollars in my savingsaccount. I didn't have a job lined
up, but I was like,I think I need to just do it.
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Um. So it was all theselike moments right in life where it
was like that led me to whereI'm at today. So that was,
yeah, the one I'm not yourmove, Oh no, not at all.
I'm like, I'm all in typeof girl, like I'll I could
have two thousand dollars and I'm like, oh the music videos two thousand dollars.
Bet, that's what it is.That's exactly what it is, right
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exactly. Yeah, so radio isvery important to you, right jump off
to your career. Absolutely. Vaughanis the man, absolute legend in radio
and in the Bay. That's lovethat guy so nice. I got to
meet him um the other day too, when not the other day, but
like maybe a month ago. Iwas over at I Heart Um in the
Bay and I got to go visithim and kind of tell him that like
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that that was the moment for me. So that was really cool too.
That's very circle moment, full circlefor sure, what's jack? Do you
ever think about making a Latin collapse? I would actually, Um, I
I love like Latin culture. Iactually uh grew up like best friends with
this Latina girl. And um whenI went to college college college, Um,
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I lived on the Chicano Latina floor. So all of my friends or
like Latin or Mexican or just ofthat um descent. And like I just
I felt like I was a littleLatino girl, Like I definitely feel like
I have a little bit of thatin me. But like, uh,
I have so much love, soso much love. Um. And I
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also like I took Spanish for ap and I was really good, Like
I I know a little bit ofSpanish. Say do you know um,
but like if you were to saysomething maybe slow, like maybe I could
understand, Like I just like takea little bit and then I use my
context clues to be like I thinkthis is what he's talking about. Oh,
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you don't ever ask a woman,I know, um little stock so
o oh oh any time are youkidding me? Are you kidding anytime?
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All day? Yeah? Okay,it could be hot as fun. Okay,
all hot girls love soup. Yeah, a hot girls love soup.
Like that. No, I'm I'mnot kidding. And maybe it's because we
have a little bit of trauma andwe want like comfort food to like help
us through these things. But Ican eat soup. I can eat soup
all the time, all the time. Sodium levels are out of here,
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but like I love it. Ijust love soup. Yeah. As a
songwriter who inspires you, what inspiresyou? Yeah, so life, my
own personal heartbreaks, I'm a littlebit too real when it comes to that.
Um, I wish I wasn't,but I don't. I don't think.
I don't think you know any otherway. No, I feel like
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the best songs that I make comefrom me being vulnerable. Like yeah,
and you know, a lot ofthe things are things that I know.
Like I can't talk about things Idon't know, Like certain people can write
like fantasies or fairy tales or likeyou know what I mean, that type
of thing. That's cool too,because I think that that takes a lot
of um, you got to bereally creative to do that. For me,
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I can only speak about what Iknow, and I've always been that
type of way. Like you know, when you do a lecture, if
you if your teacher asked you tolike do a presentation, and you don't
know the ship, You're not goingto give a good presentation. But if
you know it really well, yeah, yeah, no for sure. So
I feel like that's kind of nothow I like to go into making music.
But I definitely like to pull frompersonal experiences because it's the only way
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I know how. And also Ifeel like it's therapy for me. It's
free therapy that is, like Iget to just black out on the mic
and just tap into like my soul, you know, and it makes me
feel good. And then when Irelease the music, I feel like people
can feel that energy. And Idon't know how to explain it. And
I'm not a very like how youyou know, the term universe and like
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energy and zodiac signs and all this. Don't get me wrong, I'm not
like an overly like spiritual person,but I do believe that music can be
very spiritual. And so like whenI release music that I have like a
lot of energy in, then whenI release it and people can feel that
wherever they're located. And I dobelieve that music does bet my music does
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better when I put all my energyinto transferring yeah, that's what I feel
like. I do. I dofeel like that. That is why my
music is so relatable, is becausea lot of it is based on true
events and the things that I know. But that's really what inspires me,
Like it's when you feel it's tooyou're listening to girls like me Don't Cry
Deluxe version, all streaming platforms.Thank you so much that that energy is
there and that honesty, the honestybleeds through. I believe you feel me
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there. You're not front and fromNoble No. I wrote that song about
moving to Los Angeles with barely think, barely anything in my savings or my
pockets, but just a whole bunchof tissues because I grew up just being
like the ultimate cry baby. ButI pretend like I'm strong. Yeah yeah,
yeah, right right right yeah youyou well, you are a tough
cookie, I think, right,but you know, just like anybody you're
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you're just as soft as anyone canbe. Vulnerable. Absolutely, I'm definitely
a softie. Growing up, Iused to have this nickname in Vietnamese called
Jabail and um it meant cry baby. My uncle gave that to me because
I used to cry all the timeand I asked my mom. I was
like, hey, did I usedto cry all the time? She said,
dude, you used to cry whenyou were hungry, when you were
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when you were fed, when youwere happy, when you were sad.
And I'm like, I'm so sorry, Like I'm sorry you how to deal
with that? But um, Ido feel like maybe that's why I'm very
in tune with my feelings. Yeah, it made you a songwriter. It
made me a songwriter. And Iyeah, I've always been a little songbird,
even as a little baby, alittle girl. That's right. Yesterday
I was still crying, really cryall the time. Yeah, we gotta
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let it out, you know,I let it out right. Yeah,
it's not weak. I don't thinkit's weak to cry. I think I
think he's contemplating it. Nah,start crying right now. Yeah, I'm
thinking I'm about a cry with you. And by the way, and by
the way, if you're watching right, you think, oh, she had
two thousand dollars, Like, yo, bro, at least you had that,
like two thousand dollars in la istwo dollars, I mean rent is
like what it was twelve hundred bro, It takes one hundred dollars to leave
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the house. Yeah, and Icouldn't at least I couldn't get a job
when I moved out here, AndI thought I was like, not that
I was hot shit in the servingworld, but I was like, I
feel like I'm a I'm a goodperson. The people can see that.
But there's so many good people herein LA and especially everybody here who's trying
to chase their dreams. Like servingwas like the easiest job for everybody.
Where did you get into, dude? I applied everywhere. I applied to
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everywhere, like literally everywhere, evenlike Paniti Grill. I couldn't get hired
there, a cheesecake factory, couldn'tget hired there, Buffalo Waw Wings,
No I didn't. I probably theywould have denied me too, because everybody
had of Carl's Julian and they werelike no, sir, no thank you.
Yeah, I couldn't get a job, and it was it was really
sad, but I'm kind of I'mgreat for I didn't give up. And
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I definitely have that mentality of justlike you just can't give up, you
know, no matter like what.And I feel like when you get to
that lowest low is then when doorsstart opening for you. Sure. Yeah,
So I'm a firm believer and yougotta you know, and you said
this a few minutes ago, yougotta be all in. You know,
if you have a backup plan,I guess that's okay. You know,
if you have school and stuff,that's always great. You know, there's
nothing wrong with that. But neverplanned to fail totally. Oh I like
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that, yeah, because because I'malso like a firm believer that, like,
you can have a backup plan,because I think like, especially as
a musician that's starting out, youhave to have something to fund it,
right. So for me, itwas like I would I would work in
the medical field so that I wouldhave money to pay for my music videos
or studio time. So I thinkthat that was really important for me to
think about too, obviously, likeI wanted to make music work, right,
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But at the same time, Iwas very realistic that if it doesn't,
at least I have my medical fieldto kind of fall back on.
But I but I was I wasn'treally lying on it though. I was
like, I'm still gonna work onehundred and twenty percent so that I can
make music work, right. Um, So I think it's okay to kind
of like do both and also bereally tired, because I think that's what
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it takes to get to where youwant to be. It's gonna be tiring,
it's gonna be hard, but youcan't give up on it if you
really want to do that. It'sgonna suck. There's many times where I
felt like giving up, and youwant to give up in life and you
just want to, you know,hide, Yeah, and that's when you
have to not hide. You haveto you know, you got to push
through that the next level for sure. Are you okay with being a role
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model? I am. Yeah.A lot of artists are not okay with
it because like, yeah, I'mnot raising your kids. No. And
I think, like in a sense, like I'm I'm an older sister to
a lot of you know, mycommunity. Like I get a lot of
messages from like Vietnamese boys and girlsjust telling me how much they see me
as an older sister and they callme chee high, which means older sister
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in Vietnamese Chi hichee hi. Yeah, And I love that because like I
wish I had somebody like that kindof growing up, because I think if
I had, I probably would havestarted music a lot sooner. But I
think because I only had cousins thatlike were doctors or lawyers or did something
like that, I was like,Oh, I guess I'll just follow in
their footsteps, right. So it'skind of the same mentality of like,
if I had somebody to look upto that was doing what I wanted to
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do and they look like me,then I think I can do it too.
And I think that, like,you know, I'm not saying I'm
perfect. Nobody's perfect. Um.I definitely like have shit that I deal
with. UM, And I wouldn'tnecessarily call myself the best role model,
but I think I I am somebodythat they can look up to to kind
of like follow, right, um, And yeah, and learn from because
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I don't. Again, I'm notsaying I have the blueprint for it,
but I definitely think that I've walkedin a path that is not very normal
for people in my culture. Soyou know, maybe you guys can look
at what I'm doing and be like, oh and learn from it. Yeah,
I do, no, because it'sit's actually laughable that I'm where I'm
at today. No, I swearthat because I didn't grow up I didn't
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grow up in vocal classes. Ididn't grow up, you know, going
to piano classes. I have moneyfor that, like guitar classes anything like
that. But I had this crazydream and I used to listen to so
much Brittany, Christina glam where Icarry a vaunt to me, a like
Brandy, all of those people,right, and I would just like mimic
them and I would be in theback house pretending that I was them on
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stage. So I had this likedelusional dream like my entire life, but
I wasn't doing anything towards it becauseI felt so much pressure to be in
the medical field or do something formy edge. Right. No, but
in my delusional mind, I waslike, I'm still going to be a
singer. I was I doing anythingtowards it, No, Like I really
wasn't. I was singing like anybodyon the street when I was drunk in
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college, but it was that wasn'tgonna get me anything, you know.
And I was the shyest person too. So I think I'm like the person
that like didn't have everything lined upfor her but still somehow made it to
where she's at because she had adream. She worked really hard at it
and she just like worked every singleday to perfect her craft, you know.
Um, So I think that that, like hopefully is inspiring because I
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know a lot of times, youknow, I was always felt like I
couldn't do it because I'd look atsomebody that's doing it and be like,
Okay, like they they went toschool for this, or like they did
this, Oh their parents are youknow whoever they are whatever? Right,
So I always felt like very discouraged. Um, So hopefully they can look
at what I'm doing and be likedamn, she didn't have any of those
things and still was able to getto where she's at. So not as
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major congratulations, thank you, thankyou so much. You know, I
wanted to talk about tweet because youyou've been in LA for a minute now.
What's your favorite thing about about Laand favorite thing about the bay?
Ooh? Um, I really likeLA because I feel always inspired. I
think the energy is really high hereand everybody's trying to chase a dream and
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everybody's everybody's working, and um,I think the difference between the Bay is
that like the pay he closes atlike nine pm sometimes, you know,
and then you just like all youneed all you feel like doing is going
to sleep. Um, but whenI'm back here in La, I feel
like I have a good routine.I'm working out, I'm juicing, I'm
going on walks, I'm writing.I know, right, but I definitely
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feel like I definitely feel like no, but like truly, I feel like
I'm working on myself as a person. And then also you should all go
together, let's do it. Butyeah, I just feel like, um,
the energy is here and it makesyou want to keep striving for your
dreams. Um. But what Ilove about the bay is like it's always
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going to feel like home. Youknow. When I'm back there, I
feel so loved. I feel likeuncomfortable. Yeah yeah. Um. It
also helps that like my parents makeall the meals that I love, Like,
dude, anytime my mom was like, hey, when are you coming
back? All right, what doyou want to eat? Like that's their
love language. Um, I loveyou, oh absolutely. And now I
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feel like they're even more in tunewith their emotions too. Like growing up,
my parents never really told me thatthey love me, that they're proud
of me, But now they likesay that to me. They're like beautiful,
Like we're proud of you, um, and what do you want to
eat? So I just feel likegrowing, growing, and it's healing my
inner child for sure. Yeah.You know, a female of Vietnamese accent
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is so pretty. I think,yeah, it's beautiful. I was telling
them that the other day. Ithink there's just a sound to it.
I don't know what it is.And certain sounds in certain you know,
make make people feel different. Butit's it's it's almost like art almost in
a way. For sure. Yeah, and it can you believe that certain
people actually think it sounds like uglyand they like it sounds weird, and
I'm like, okay, well you'reweird. Yeah, it almost sounds like
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an art form. I believe it'sa complicated language, or it can be,
I guess for certain people. Iknow it would be for me.
But the sound of the accent isvery beautiful. No, for sure,
I love. I want to learnmore actually because now I feel like my
I have so many fans in Vietnamthat I'm like, I need to like
get back to my roots, youknow, and and and learn more.
Um. But you know we'll gettheir dual lingo. Do you know Jackie
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has a hard time saying Vietnamese.Really yeah, I think I think yeah,
yeah, yeah. Sometimes you sayVietnamese or like it's hard for her
to say it, but it's okay. There's certain words that like everyone has
trouble saying. I know you don'tmean any like malice. I was like,
no, no, no, no, yeah, it's hard to say.
I can't say what was the wordcarp carpement, carpementalized, god,
(37:29):
bless, I can't say that carpementumcarpementalized. Am I saying it right?
No? No, I don't thinkcarpet. I don't think I could even
say it. Hard. My littlecousin m he used to say remember,
like remember and I'd be like no, I'd be like remember remember. He'd
be like remember and I'd be remember, okay, say he remember my brother,
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my brother, one of my brothers, a full blown adult, two
kids, And he says math notmath, math math. He's like,
yeah, man, you know I'mnot good at math. You're not good
at saying it either. You knowit's all bad. Yo. Hey tweet,
thank you so much for your time. Thank you, Sorry you are
invited here. Anytime you got ahome here everyone ninety two three Steal all
your snacks. No, let's go, we got snacks, take them back
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We love free ship too. It'sall you know, It's all day.
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