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March 16, 2021 18 mins

Kobe Bryant’s death reverberated around the world, through all walks of life; his absence has been felt by those closest to him and those who knew him only from a distance. In this episode we hear personal stories from the Mayor of Los Angeles, a longtime friend from way back, and a television executive who worked with Bryant. They also reflect on the legacy they believe Bryant leaves behind. 

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Husband, father, creator in basketball icon, Kobe Bryant leaves a
complex legacy. I'm Steve Gregory and this is the death
in life of Kobe Bryant. Cindy Borne is a sports
reporter with the Washington Post and provided a recap on
Brian's legacy the day after he died. Probably really was

(00:30):
the Lakers. He embodied the Lakers son. Some players came
and went, You know, Kobe was such a warrior on
the basketball court, and he famously played with a torn
achilles and finally he walked away. He had gotten as
much out of his body as he could after the season,
and he really sort of moved on then into his
daughter's athleticism, into their athletic endeavors. And his second daughter,

(00:55):
um Gianna, who was thirteen, was interested in basketball. She
wanted to play in the w n b A, she
wanted to go to Yukon, and Kobe found himself pulled
back into basketball and really enjoying it again through her eyes.
There will be people who will remember an allegation of
a sexual assault and how that was dealt with. It
is an unquestionably ugly part of his legacy. Um It's

(01:17):
one that is some point receded into the background, but
it does still exist. Kurt Alexander, the host of the
nationally syndicated radio show Big Boys Neighborhood, says he was
a personal friend of Bryant's and knew him when he

(01:38):
first arrived in l A. I asked him what he
thought Bryant's legacy could be. Man, I would have to
say the super human being legacy. You know, it's not
a legacy of basketball. You know, there's a lot of
basketball fans, but I think that people love Kobe as
Kobe Bryant. There's there's a there's an umbrella, there's the top,

(02:02):
and then everything else falls into There's Kobe Bryant, and
then there's basketball player father. There's so many things that
fall under that. So I think the legacy is just
Kobe Bryant. You can't define Kobe Bryant by basketball. I've
known Kobe years and I don't say, oh, you know
when I enter or whatever. I don't I don't know
how many right now? What is he five rings? Like?

(02:26):
And that's my guests just like calculating. But I never
equated Kobe to the jewelry on his finger, the trophies
at the Staples Center, it was just Kobe Bryant. Everything
else fell under that. So I think that when we
think of legacy, hold Kobe Bryant as a legacy, not
as a legendary basketball player. Sports journalist Larry Brown owns
the website Larry brown sports dot com and covered the

(02:49):
crash that morning. He says Bryant's legacy is more sports centric.
I mean, absolutely beloved in Los Angeles, and there are
so many great Lakers, Magic Johnson and Kareema, Jerry West.
I mean, you look up at the rafters at Staples

(03:10):
and see all the jerseys up there. There's so many
great Lakers, um shack. You know. It's but it's really
hard to argue against Kobe as the greatest, for the
length of time he spent with the team, for everything
he accomplished with the team. It's it's hard to argue
against that. It's a great legacy. I think another part
of his legacy is how beloved he was, not just

(03:32):
by basketball fans, but multicultural appeal. You know, one of
the things about Kobe was not only did he grow
up speaking Italian, but he knew Spanish and he knew
other languages, and so he could communicate. He knew that
Laker fans were a very diverse fan base. Um, lots
of Persian Laker fans, lots of Asian ones, Aremenian Laker fans,

(03:58):
and he he tried to appeal to all of them,
and he appealed to all of them. And so I
think Kobe's appeal was transcended culture because of his character,
his determination and his will to win. It just crosses
all cultures and attracts people. And that's part of his legacy.

(04:19):
And then you know, really after his retirement, It wasn't
until after his death and I started to hear all
these stories people were telling about how much Kobe gave
back to the game of basketball that I really started
to see his legacy. It wasn't just about what he
accomplished on the court, but so much of his legacy

(04:40):
was about what he did after he had retired. All
these players were coming out and talking about how Kobe
would would break down game footage for them and would
try and work in one on one sessions with them. Um,
he was trying to give back everything that he had
learned earned over the course of his career to the

(05:03):
current players so that they could keep it going forward
so that the game of basketball would not lose all
that knowledge, uh, and that it would continue to be
passed down. And that's such a big part of his legacy,
was what he gave back to the game because he
recognized how much it gave to him. And Uh, I
think that message was conveyed so clearly that I hadn't

(05:26):
realized it prior to his death, but afterwards, when all
these players were talking about what he had done for them,
I really started to see it. And and you know,
Kobe didn't publicize that, UM, and I respect him more
for not publicizing that that we found out later through
these people, And I think that's part of his legacy.
It's a really nice part of his legacy. Kevin Beggs

(05:49):
is the chairman of lions Gate Television and a board
member of My Friend's Place, a nonprofit dedicated to helping
young people experiencing homelessness. We've talked about Brian's involvement with
the organization in previous episodes. Begs says two of the
best moments at My Friends Place finding out Bryant wanted
to get involved and the time he provided enough funding
to renovate the facility in Hollywood Begs says Bryant was

(06:12):
one of a kind. I mean, I think his legacy
on the court extends to his legacy and all he does,
whether it was in film and television, or philanthropy or
or business. You know, a relentless commitment to excellence. Right.
Nobody can come close to the work ethic. We've seen
the workouts and the way UH he prepared and the

(06:36):
singular focus on winning and UH and on teamwork, and
I you know, these are lessons that I think everyone
can learn from in every aspect of their life, whether
they're a professional superstar playing you know at the A's
the greatest arena and level of professional basketball, or anything else.

(06:56):
But you know, hard, hard work and UH and commitment
to excellence will pay off. And I think that's speaks
to us as citizens of l A, as professionals in
our work lives and in our family, UM, in philanthropic endeavors.
So to me, that's you know, his his consistency of message.

(07:19):
It goes across everything he does and everything he did.
And I think that's that's the legacy I'm going to
focus on. And I think that's one that we can
all take with us despite him not being with us anymore.
It's the Ellen Kay Q and a Hellen Coast one
of three point five, and we ask the question first
color with the right answer. Ellen kay is a popular
radio host and well known voiceover artist in Los Angeles.

(07:42):
He's been the announcer for the Academy Awards, the Grammys,
and the Emmy's, and she was also the announcer for
Bryant's memorial at Staple Center. Throughout the years, she remembers
seeing Bryant in the hallways of her radio station. Kobe
has been coming in here to my heart since before
we were iHeart. So when he first got here, you
know Vic the Brick. Vic befriended Kobe right away and

(08:05):
they used to sit on the beach together. Maybe Vick
has told you the story and talk about life, and
so Vic brought him by the Rick Dys Show several times.
So there's early Kobe right. Then Kobe ends up marrying Vanessa,
who was a really good friend of Patti Rodriguez, who
was on our show, and so there was more Kobe
and that connection, and then you know, Kobe was coming

(08:28):
into my heart for interviews. I mean up until I
would say a month before he he passed. There was
just always a connection. He loved to come in and
do radio, I know, with you know a M five
SEV L A sports and he was just always kind
of like a regular I would say, so yeah, yeah,

(08:49):
I knew Kobe through the years and we always would
take My son is nineteen now, but one of the
things that that we made a point of doing as
he was growing up was taking him to see the
greats when they played. We took him to see David
Beckham bendit when he was at the Galaxy. Of of
course he saw Shack play, Luke Robotie, you know, any

(09:12):
sports great We're right there. We just wanted him to see, like,
look at this. So Kobe was one of our one
of our favorites to go and watch. So when I
asked what she thought Bryant's legacy might be, Wow, I
think it is. You know, I love your family, love
your city, do what you love with all of your heart.

(09:34):
I think his legacy is is one of excellence. Yeah.
I think he's a reminder that he really loved every
minute of his life. I think he's a lesson in
living coming up. The Mayor of Los Angeles says Briant's
legacy is about grit and love, as the death and

(09:56):
life of Kobe Bryant continues, m M. Los Angeles County

(10:20):
Sheriff alex Via Nueva says he remembers being a deputy
when he became a big fan of Bryant's and when
asked about Brian's legacy, I think twofold his legacy probably
one of the fiercest competitors professional sports has ever seen.
And uh uh, father figure, someone was really made that switch,

(10:41):
you know, from professional career to his family life. And
he gave everything for his family and he left nothing,
nothing on the in the tank at all and everything
he did. Some have felt Bryan's legacy is rooted in basketball,
while others believe Bryant's legacy comes from being a personal
role model. Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti I think there's

(11:02):
two legacies that Kobe leaves behind. One is of grit,
you know, the grit and greatness that he showed um
that you just if you want to be great, you
gotta work at it. It doesn't come easy. It doesn't
matter if you're talented. Talent A lot of people are
talented in this town. A lot of people are talented

(11:22):
in this world, but you gotta want it, you gotta
fight for it. And then I think the second, though
he didn't express it as such, was love. You know.
I think the way he saw him as a family man,
the way you know, he and Vanessa so so incredibly close,
and the love of a father for a daughter, which
I think for all of us that were fathers, which

(11:44):
just blew us away. I mean he he himself said
that he was so glad his career ended so that
he could spend this time watching his girls grow up.
And that is the legacy that you leave behind what
you did and who you love of And what he
did was all about l a greatness, and what he

(12:04):
showed was all about l a love. The horrific crash
that killed Bryant, his daughter, and seven others would cause
a chain reaction of events that has led or could
possibly lead to change in TSB. Board member Jennifer Hammondy

(12:26):
was the head of the go team that arrived at
the crash site. She spoke to the media and also
pointed out related safety recommendations. The f a A refused
to act upon recommendations that have been issued in the past,
that the f a A A has failed to act on
I want to talk talk about. I was asked about
Terrain Awareness and Warning System or TAUS, which provides terrain

(12:51):
information to the pilot. I was asked whether that was
on this helicopter. We have verified it was not. In
two thousand four, the NTSB investigated a crash involving inn
s SEV S A in Galveston, Texas, which killed ten people.
We issued a recommendation to the Federal Aviation Administration that

(13:12):
stated require all existing and new US registered turbine powered
rotorcraft certificated for six or more passenger seats to be
equipped with the terrain Awareness and Warning System. They did
not implement the recommendation. We closed the recommendation as unacceptable.

(13:36):
Little did Homindy know at the time that lawmakers were
paying attention. California lawmakers are pushing for the Kobe and
Gianna Bryant Helicopter Safety Act. It would require all helicopters
with six or more passengers to have to rain awareness equipment.
Senator Diane Feinstein and Representative Brad Sherman reintroduced this bill

(13:57):
just one day, but the legislation mirror is exactly the
recommendations Homini spoke of in her media briefing at the
scene of the crash. Bryant's wife, Vanessa would weigh in,
saying she strongly urges the United States Congress passive federal
law that would improve the safety of helicopters operating in
this country. She believes there is a chance that Kobe
and Gianna would still be alive today if their helicopter

(14:20):
had been equipped with the safety equipment required by this
pending federal legislation. Another bit of legislation a little closer
to home, was based on actions of some of the
deputies who were among the first responders at the scene
of the crash. Sources tell k cal Mine Tonight Ellie
Chemist Sheriff's deputies who responded to the crash site are
accused of taking graphic photos and then sharing them. Were

(14:41):
told those photos of the scene and victims remains were
shared with other officials who had not. The incident was
enough to prompt a lawsuit from Brian's widow for emotional distress.
Ellie County Sheriff Alex Viennueva says he was so disgusted
by the actions of the deputies he co sponsored legislation
which would make it a crime for public safety personnel
to take or share non official pictures of a crash

(15:02):
site or disaster scene, especially those of a graphic nature.
Beyond the legal legacies Briant's death leaves behind, there are
also charities that continue to thrive because of Brian's generosity.
To date, Briant, along with his wife, donated money or
volunteered their time to at least ten nonprofit organizations, including

(15:26):
Stand Up to Cancer, Make a Wish, United Way in
the National Museum of African American History and Culture. Bryant's
creative legacy includes a series of children's books and other
media projects, not the least of which is Dear Basketball,
the animated short film based on a published letter, a
film that would also win an oscar and propel Bryant

(15:47):
into another league. Altogether Free because that's what you do
when someone makes you feel as alive as you've made
me feel. You gave a Sushio, Boys, Lay Dream, and
I Always Love Before. When exploring Bryant's legacy, there were

(16:09):
many views from people of varying background, but there seemed
to be a common theme among them. Perhaps Mike Asner,
owner of the website Kobe mural dot Com sums it
up best. His legacy to me is twofold at a
very high level. It's obviously him as a champion and
what he did for the city and for Lakers fans
across the world, and as a die hard Laker fan.
I'm grateful for that forever. But his legacy, more so,

(16:33):
I think today than ever, is his work ethic and
his mentality. And the thing that has stuck with me
during this entire process, just talking to fans and artists,
is it doesn't matter what you do, who you are,
doesn't matter. You can imply what this man did in
his life, the way he worked, how early he got up,
how he pushed through during those days when you didn't
want to work as hard. That applies to everybody, every ethnicity,

(16:57):
every background. So for me personally, that's the thing I'll
always stick out for me is as his true legacy,
or as Bryant once said, the most important thing is
to try and inspire people so that they can be
great at whatever they want to do. I love you always, Kobe.

(17:49):
The Death and Life of Kobe Bryant is produced by
Steve Gregory and Jacob Gonzalez. And is a production of
k FI news at I Heeart Media, Los Angeles, the
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