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If you can wager on it.We're talking about it. It's The Gambler.
Welcome to the Divide with Mike andCorey, two diehard baseball fans who
don't agree on anything, which thisis the Divide. Put your boy Todd
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so Corny, I own our disagreement, bring up I do. And here
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one of four to one Trenton orcheck us out on the iHeartRadio app.
Bro, what's the hook? Wehaven't talked all week? I know,
I know. It's like so,I think that's what took us so long
to get recording in the studio wasbecause I just went nine an hour.
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Great though, yeah I should havesaved it. But no, well some
of that was personal. Typically wetalked, we just didn't connect and you
had a busy week since the lasttime our listeners heard us you you did
the e clean bro Galla, Ohmy and then you went to a Flyers
game. Yeah, I did,I did. I didn't climb meeting after
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meeting. You got some good thingscoming up and I need Yeah, I
made soup love it so time.Pretty pretty busy week for me. It
was a creamy chicken tomato type deal. Do you have man's overs? Of
course, because Peyton is a supmaniac. And also I'm a single dad
right now. I don't know ifyou know this wife. The wife is
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at the iHeart Podcast Awards, whichairs on this network on Monday night.
Fun fact. Yeah, we arenot nominated. No, not this year,
you guys, but there's always nextyear. You could look it up.
We were nominated for award, oneof the few accolades we could say
that we have on Fox Sports theGambler that many don't. Speaking of that,
do you think that Sean Brace knowsthat he sings our theme song?
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I hope so, well, maybenot. He might. He might demand
money if he knows we're fact hislikelihood, I don't know. I mean
he said it on the air,so it's a I guess it's free.
There's only one person that interacts withus on a daily basis, or at
least me that I know does notlisten to the show, and that's my
wife. That's why I feel likeI could just say whatever it took her
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about. I'm not making this up. It was probably about the eighteen month
mark where of us being on theradio, where she was like, you
guys are on the radio, man, I said, I felt like,
you know, it's like water Boy, the mom like, you're never gonna
make it. What is that deweycogs or what is that that's a you're
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never gonna make it mom. I'ma professional athlete, I'm a multi billion
record I don't know. Whatever.No, I don't know. Maybe it
is. I think you think bothof them walk hard. I think you're
confusing water Boy water Boy. JohnJansen is the movie Buff. The Oscars
are on right now, so ifanybody wants to watch that, No,
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but dude, it's it's yeah,it's been crazy. You You had a
dad experience that kind of unlocked memoriesfor me, and that was trying to
get to the studio. You putyour daughter to bed, Oh my god,
before even getting getting here tonight.Yeah, I'm like, all right,
man, I'll be there at whatevertime, and I just gotta put
it, and I had her asleepso quick I get up to put her
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in the crib and my phone slidesoff like the arm of the rocking chair.
Yeah, and it was just Ias soon as it hit it because
we have a hardwood floor, soit just echoes. Sounded like a brag.
I'm not trying to brag it aboutmy hardwood floors. That's an old
person thing. But dude, assoon as it hit the floor, she
just opened her arm like yeah,come on. After that, it was
like another thirty minutes of trying toget the escape plan for an infant or
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a toddler, like is always themost epic part, but it gets easier.
Dude. My daughter now puts onher her white noise. Nice to
put on her white noise. Sheturns on her night light, and then
ironically, she puts on a sleepingmask. So I was like, why
do you? And so just tohave that option, I wanted to be
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pitch black when I wanted to bepitch black. Yeah, yeah, I
can't wait until like because we havethe sound machine for her, which is
like deafening if you're in there,like you really can't hear anything that happens
outside. The room, but forsome reason we still because we have to
like walk past her bedroom to getto our bedroom, we still tiptoe like
past her bedroom, like just incase. I love it. I love
it. It's it's it's great.Let's let's get into some sports here,
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because like some good stuff happened anda lot of things that we need to
kind of ramble about here. Yeah, I want to talk about since we're
in Philly, I want to talkabout Kelsey's retirement first, Uh, the
takeaways from it. Like you,I'm sure you watched the speech. Yeah,
great speech, spend a topic orconversation for the last day or so
two days at the station, andwe everybody knew it was coming. No
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one really thought that that wasn't goingto happen. But imagine loving your job
so damn much to where you're thatemotional when you're like, I can't do
it, like not I mean notonly loving your job so much, but
making millions of dollars, loving yourjob so much and still being that emotional
when you're like, I can't dothis anymore. I cried the last day
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with my own company. No,I understand, But at the same time,
no, I get that like youleft for different adventure. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, he's leaving toenjoy his family and you know, the
just not working for the rest ofhis life yea, and his podcast That's
Hello six absolutely, you know,and you never know. But what I
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would share is I'm cracking up becausethe fan base, and I'm sorry all
week I've been walking around Philadelphia callingthem the cry baby Kelsey's fans, cry
baby Kelsey fans. I'm just like, yo, dude, like, get
over and he's retired. Like becausethe funniest part was they all were,
look, he's retiring, man,you know, there was just some clowns
that one we were upset that Ihad Brendan Graham on and I asked them
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the Kelsey thing, and they werein my DM. Some some people were
actually friends. They were like,of course he's retiring. Why would you
even ask that. I was like, well, because it's one it's his
teammate too. Brandon said it's hislast year for him coming up, So
it was a great question to ask. I think the interview bro like,
yeah, it's an interview, it'sa great question. I was like,
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oh, gee, I don't know. Maybe because people will actually click on
it. And comment like for thisinteraction right here, that's why. Yeah,
yeah exactly. And and also itwas nine minutes unscripted and it was
a great interview. You could checkit out on Give Us a Shot Network
on Fox Sports The Gambler's YouTube page. It's it's a really great interview on
Brendan Graham was amazing. I'm rootingfor him, Like, so, don't
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take this as an eagle slant.What I'm cracking up is now those same
guys, I'm gonna go out andget his campbell soup can. I'm gonna
miss him when wham. I'm like, shut up, dude. You would
have won said he was leaving.Yeah, you would have one said he
was retired. Now you're like dan, dude, I'm gonna go back listen
to his speech is so impactful,like stop, stop, he retired,
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bro the people that And don't getme wrong, I like Jason Kelso.
It's such a passionate guy. Buthis hungry dogs speech, they're hunger dogs
run fast. No, no,no, they don't run fast. They're
not nourished. Here, I like, I get it. Look man,
I mean it's weird to have it, or I should say not weird,
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but uncommon for a offensive lineman,you know when they retire to have the
fan based that upset. Yeah,that that just shows the type of job
he did, you know for theyears decades. I mean, you know
you saw the timeline. Those postsare cool, you know, showing the
many faces of of Kelsey and throughoutthe years, and it's just yeah,
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man, like, it's it's he'ssuch a cool guy. He's gonna be
Yeah, he's gonna be around theteam. I'm sure he'll be at the
Phillies games. I'm sure he's gonnabe all over the place. It wouldn't
surprise me if he gets hired insome sort of coaching capacity in the next
few years. I don't think hewould want it, Like, I don't.
I don't know if i'm him,man Like what like, I have
a one of the top five podcast, right, I'm gonna be making money
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my my soon to be sister inlaw's Taylor Swift of an awesome family.
Uh, Shack is the reason heput it through the goalpost, Like,
I don't know, if you sawthat interview, you know, Shaq got
really emotional. He's like, don'tget too attached to this game. You'll
lose your whole family when you retire. I saw that gotta be a good
day, like all this other stufflike, and I think it was like
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a scared straight moment because Graham said, hey, you know, like I
think he's gonna convince himself to comeback one more year with all the press
and the love he's getting. Sohis teammate thought it was a possibility that
he would come back, you know, but I told you. I told
you, like, all right,dude, go cry, go cry in
the corner because Jason Kelsey retired.Okay, like, go cry in the
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corner. Let me have a nicecry out. When you're done, I'll
be here hosting a radio show ora podcast, whatever we want to call
it. So look, man,it's it's just it's for me. It's
it's hilarious. But also like he'ssuch a great guy that I do wish
him well. And I'm not makingfun of him. I'm just making fun
of you know, the social mediameatheads. No, and then but even
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like you know they saw of courseTravis gotten an interview and on his podcast,
they're on their podcast. I shouldsay he's got emotional again and say
you can wager on it, we'retalking about it. It's the gambler,
you know, for someone that playedwith his brother for a long time and
then inevitably against his brother. Hesays, you know, the game's gonna
feel empty. I I think that'sjust kind of him caught up in the
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moment. I mean, no,yeah, you're kinda you can still you
still have someone to talk to andrelate to as far as like where the
game's headed and stuff. But Idon't know. I left my brother behind
and he's still in that game.And honestly, like we talk a lot,
and it's it gets it gets frustratingsometimes, and he's just still emotionally
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invested. I get, of course, yea, let's stay Eagles man.
Let's talk about the possibility of themactually bringing Barkley over because that's been in
the news all week now. Giantsfans are losing their goddamn mind about it,
which is fantastic in my opinion.I just think it's so funny the
one uh football player that they haveon their team could possibly let them go,
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let them go? Who cares?Like? And everybody's comparing it to
to Wheeler, like fine, Wheelerwas a bad met in dude. And
I know this because his social mediatold you that. His profile when he
was a Met told you that hewas going through a ton of injuries.
He was never healthy, and hehad this passive aggressive profile. I'm more
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than just a Met player. There'smore about me than just the Mets.
Like, great, dude, that'sawesome, But why are you sharing that,
like because now it doesn't say that, you know, like about being
affilly like so like, I'm gladhe's happy, but also like Barkley,
like what what advantage is it forthe Giants to go chase after him?
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One that they already shot their loadwith Daniel Jones, Like they have too
much money invested in him? Whatyou think about? Yeah, it's really
stupid. So it was dumb,and like the decision to not franchise Tag
Barkley, I really want a gentleman'sagreement. It was a gentleman's agreement because
they did it last year and hewas like, Yo, I'm gonna take
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it, but I'm tired. Andremember they had the committee with all the
running backs saying like we're not gonnatake it, and then Barkley took the
money like the day later. SoI think he knew like, hey,
look this is we're gonna give onemore go at this. And I'm testing
in the market and uh, ifyou franchise tag me, I'll sit out
like kind of attitude. So theydidn't franchise tag them, which they had
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no choice, you know, theythey knew it was gonna come. I
mean, they had a choice legally, but I mean, but when you
get franchise tag, you're still guaranteeda certain amount of money for one year,
right, yeah, yeah, likeyou can't. Yeah, so and
you knew they're franchise tags, shouldyou know. NFL needs to fix all
that stuff. Man, Guaranteed contractsneed to be a thing. Like,
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I know, baseball is a littlebit out of control, but there's a
lot of money in this sport,you know, and you gotta be able
to give it to the players becausethey're the ones risking their lives. If
if the college kids could make adecent pocket out of it, you believe
the pros can, oh absolutely,Like so it's just silly. We're talking
about money, you know, we'retalking about salary caps. We're talking about
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it's the largest freaking sport. There'snot an NFL owner that's living in poverty
right now, dude, did yousee the owner of the Kansas City Chiefs.
You saw his suite? Yeah,he has a hotel Arrowhead Stadium.
Like, no, nobody's missing outon this stuff. Now, Barkley's a
winner for this man. He canactually negotiate with a team that doesn't have
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to give up one or two firstround draft picks, and then the Giants
can go through whatever requote rebuild theywant to go through. It's just dumb,
dumb, dumb, dumb. Yeah, I don't know if the Eagles
are gonna go I mean, comeon, what you got You still have
swift, right, I mean yeah, I mean, look, it puts
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them over, but it also likeis it I don't know if it's necessary,
Like you know, I mean,Barkley one has the best arm on
the Giants right now, right two. Like, so there's there's so many
different things. He's a beast.He's an absolute monster, and it's just
like if he could stay healthy,it's lights out. It's Bo Jackson and
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on the Nes type stuff where he'sjust undouchable. So you know, like
honestly, like I think you know, of course it's gonna happen of course
it's gonna happen. He's gonna leaveNew York and you know, and they're
trying to relate it to Wheeler andstuff like that, and that just grinds
my gears because, you know,a shout outs to Wheeler. He's performing
amazingly. He's one of top baseballpitching prospects. And when he was on
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the Mets, he was fourth orfifth starter. You know, you had
Harvey Noah, freaking Harvey Noah andde Gram all ahead of him. You
know, he was like the forgottenchild. And like I said, he
was also tons of tons of injuries. So do you so do you feel
that Barkley has a good chance ofsigning with the Eagles? Do you think
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that's just New York posts try staydrama. I think it's drama, But
I also think, like, yeah, it's it's a possibility. You know,
it's one of those options that areout there. Do I think it
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put money on that? Yeah?I am all right, you want.
I think it's gonna happen. We'regonna use our new spot. I think
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One thing that my my co hostwants to share and speak about is the
Queen's Crew that was announced this week, and Mike's gonna go ahead and tell
you about just how exciting that isfor the sport of baseball. Yeah,
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I just I look like, honestlylike, I just don't understand. I
live in a simulation. There's somePhilly fan poking at the strings right now
playing God, I'm telling you rightnow like this is this is a joke.
I'm gonna wake up from it.Because listen, if where the Phillies
are at right now and they hadthose mixtapes and stuff like that, and
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you know they've been into two nlcsthey won one of them. You know,
like if if the Mets were onthat trajectory and they're like, yo,
we're gonna we're gonna drop a dancecrew on you, like I'd be
like, you know what, let'srock out, like you know, like
now is the time to do it, like when you're at the top,
all right, let's let's let's bringin a dancing crew whatever. But this
is like step up the movie.Like but the Mets, right, this
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is ridiculous because the whole world iscollapsing. But don't worry. We could
cut a round for ten minutes inthis dance segment, Like what if Steve
Cohen could go out there and dancewith them, like you know, like
it's instead of honey, it willbe money, and it'll be Steve Cohen
instead of Jessica Alba. Like Iam so perplexed by why somebody was like
listen, we're not spending any money. We're gonna let these contracts expire.
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We got blue chip prospects in returnfor all these veteran players that we let
go. You know, we're gonnatake up a break, like, you
know, we're not broken up.We're not. We're not in a rebuild.
We're in a build to say,a one year reset. Right.
We're not in a rebuild. We'rein a reset, right, Like,
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what can we do to spark interests? Like let's make a dance crew?
I just don't know. So.First of all, if you're interested in
the Queen's Crew and they're taking auditionsnow, they don't even have talent lined
up like I thought. I thoughtlike maybe this was like the hip hop
dance Crew. Maybe there it waslike a company that was going under,
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Not even a company. Maybe itwas like a damning group that has always
been in Queens and they help outthe community and they're giving them a shot
like that, I would understand.That's like there's a connection there. It's
it's that to me that would makethe most sense, not just the random
people spinning on their head or doingwith breakdance and whatever, Like why do
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we need this in baseball. Ithought it was dumb when hockey introduced cheerleaders
years ago. To me, II kind of think it's dumb that football
has cheerleaders, but they they've alwayshad it. So just one of those
things like why can't I just gowatch a sport. I don't need to
show when the Mets did that concertseries where it was you know, yeah,
those have become cool though, solike I get it, but like,
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but do we need that? Like, yeah, can't the sport and
the players fill the seats? Andnot for nothing? The CODs or crew
like nas or whoever else they Iknow they have some names like yeah,
those will some seats. Sure,the dance shacks don't really like baseball but
still want to go with it.Do we have a dance crew? Like
we do? Like whatever time,Like it's bad enough and Apple rises and
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like, look, I'm proud ofit. It's corny, but like but
it's also like, yeah, whenhere goes to dance crew, everybody,
it's the seventh inning stretch with theQueen's Dance Crew, like you know,
and like I said, I washoping for a story like you know,
but like Steve had a love fordancing it was that our money, Like
no, it's gonna be him,is freaking yeah. We went from having
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the guy that was the reason whythey created the show billions. Like that,
I felt like a badass, Likeyou know, like we got we
got axle Rod. You know,we have a dance crew. We have
a dance crew. We have adance crew. Like what are we talking
about? Like, and look,arts is awesome that you know, and
I know the Coens are big inthe art. He's got like this little
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tiny statue that he paid like morethan he paid for the Mets for it,
Like he's an art collector. Likethey are very very unique people.
They have brought in guys like mybuddy Vintage, who is so pro Mets.
That's why I got to give youthe reality dough. Sorry Carlos,
shout out to you. Keep yourhead up. But look like this is
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ridiculous. This is like, likeI said, if everything else was going
in the right direction, we stillbelieved in Steve and all this other stuff,
like I would be like, youknow what I'm for it. You
know, if I thought that therewas an opportunity for this team to be
a wildcard team, and no disrespectto the players. Players are playing their
butts off, but we don't havea starting pitcher, Like, we don't
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have one, Like there's nobody onthis team that I'm like, man,
that's a heck of a you know, pitcher. And like I said,
it's just a well yeah right nowand when Senga comes back. But outside
of that, man, it's it'sa it's a lot of question marks,
guys that should be fifth starters atbest, and it's just it's so depressing,
and it's it's it's the Mets.And like I said, I live
in a simulation. Dude, Ican't describe this anymore. It's like,
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what can we do to fix thisteam? Let's find thirteen great. I
really wish we would have known aboutthese auditions because I would have loved to
send you in with a camera andjust to me, to me, when
I hear Mets dance crew, that'swhat I picture. I picture, like,
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uh, late to middle aged whitemen that have been broken by the
Mets over and over again, justtrying to dance. Now, it's like
the guy who's wearing shoes that hurthis feet at the wedding, but he's
out there on the dance floor,like just not happy, but he doesn't
want to stay. It's just Ithat's what I picture. I can't picture
this hype just dance crying in thecorner, dancing like you ever see that
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one girl that like does the she'sdoing the TikTok dance, but she's crying.
Yeah, that's the first person thatshould be in this in this bro.
I just it's almost like they're justlike they had that conversation and I
could picture it in the boardroom,like, listen, people think we're a
joke already, but how can wemake it worse? Like with any ideas
in a world where the Mets arefalling apart, they can't even get over.
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No one's laughed at us in abouta month. Is that anything we
could do about that? Hip hop? Dance Crew and the analytics team is
like, listen, we're gonna gooh for twenty two to start off this
season, like maybe we could stealthree wins. So now we're three and
nineteen, it's like, what weneed something? They're like, we got
it, dance crew, Dude,I'm looking at like first ten wins.
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The Mets are plus forty five hundredright now, so forty five to one,
and it's just like I'm like,dude, like maybe they'll you know,
you've seen crazier things happen, youknow, like you really got to
give the youth a shot, like, you know, and I do hope
that the Mets proved me wrong andI'm trying to reverse jinks in a little
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bit, you know. But yeah, don't lead with this. Don't lead
with this. Not not this year, not this year. You wanted to
bring in the Queen's Crew. Youshould have done that three years ago when
we're all like celebrating on a mountainbecause we have an owner that has money,
you know, and it's not gonnawell, he might go to jail
for a pond scheme of notes.He does. That the largest fine for
insider trading in the history of insidertrading. So he just was smart enough
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and he paid the fine. Solet's uh, let's let's get into this
this Netflix boxing Tyson versus Jake Paul. I can't stand Jake Paul. I'm
pretty sure you can't stand him either. He's just to me. I don't
First of all, I don't watchboxing religiously. I don't think anybody does,
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which I think is why he's beenable to run. But this kid,
he's twenty seven years old. Heclaims to be this boxer. All
he does is fight. These hasbeen celebrities, like he knocked out Nate
Robinson, you know, of theknicks. He's knocked out former former fighters
that were out of sheet shape,and most of them looked like they just
took the hit and went down becausethey secured a couple million dollars, you
know what I mean. Now he'sfighting Mike Tyson. So you have a
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fifty seven year old against a twentyseven year old. Now, Tyson hasn't
fought in a serious fight since liketwo thousand and five. I know,
back in twenty twenty he fought andlike an exhibition I'm hearing that's what this
is going to be, like anexhibition thing. Yeah, so why uh
no, it is well, Iguess it has to be like it's it's
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just whatever, but like it's youknow, and Tyson, you know,
gave accolades to all No, youknow what i mean. I'm just like
I hear exhibition in boxing, andI'm like, great, they're not gonna
try like well, you know whatI mean. Like and Tyson tried saying
like because he put him on thebecause when Tyson fought was a Roy Jones
junior on the twenty eighth and ofNo Remember. In twenty twenty, he
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he put Jake Paul on an undercardagainst Nate Robinson, which is where Nate
Robinson got a ko or whatever youwant to call it. Yeah, but
Tyson's like, it's full circle nownow I'm gonna I put him on this
undercard. Now I'm gonna finish him. Like, are you though, like
we've all seen videos of Mike Tyson. Yeah, we're all pretty scared of
him. Yeah. And I don'tcare who you are and how young you
are, You're not doing anything toMike Tyson. And also, like I
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would like to say, like there'sno such thing as an exhibition when you're
fighting Mike Tyson, Like right,yeah, Like but is Mike. Is
Mike going to this? Mike's gonnabe the first one to knock him out?
I think. Also I think forJake, like that's that's a great
first l Like you know, absolutely, like I'd rather lose to him first.
So there it's a win win situationfor the for Logan, you know
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what I will say for Jake Paul. What I will say is Logan Paul
is the best one of, ifnot the best thing to happen to the
WWE in a long long time.You said that about Pat mcaf and I
can't stand uh no. Pat,Pat is like Jerry the King Lawler on
on the mic. So that's hugebecause that announcing booth Michael cole is is
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alright, but he's like Wish dotCom Vince McMahon type stuff. You needed
that guy that kind of could justhit one liner after one liner. So
so he's good because he's not callingthe match. He's not. He's the
guy making the community relief. SoI I do love him there, Pat
McAfee, when when he when he'snot with the w WE, it's terrible
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when college football takes over and he'snow all over espn uh that those three
months or six months on on freakingthe w W sucks, Like I'm gonna
be honest with you, and it'sbecause that voice is very impactful and nobody
could replace that. You know,bad news Barrett, like it's it doesn't
happen. But Logan from an inring performance, dude, he's like Chris
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Jericho. He's like you know,I'd put him up there that type of
vibe. Good for him, man, And both of them wanted to do
the pro wrestling thing because it's youknow, it's scripted, and they and
they probably they have talent for youknow, being energetic and like whatever.
I'm all for it for boxing.I mean even look like with everybody he
faced, all the has beens,like Nate Diaz Anderson Silva. What his
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first time he faced the pro boxerTommy Fury, It says that he suffered
his first loss, Like, you'renot that guy. He did get enough
Yeah, yeah, yeah against thefirst time he actually faced a boxer,
you know. And it's just he'slike and even he's got a quote here,
it's so dumb, dude. I'msorry, dude, I can't jump
on board. You're a phony,says, my sights are set up becoming
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a world champion, and now Ihave a chance to prove myself against the
greatest heavyweight champion ever. Yeah.The dude's thirty years older than you,
Like you weren't even born yet.Mike was a world champion at eighteen,
like you weren't even born yet,and he already had about like this guy
is living boxing. He's lived threelifetimes of boxing and before you even strap
the gloves on when he was aworld champion. I Dutch, you are
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a world champion. Thanks, butit's just like you and if you beat
Tyson that you really think that makesyou a world champion because you beat someone
that's thirty years older than you,Like, give me a break, Yeah,
poopers, I did share my disagreementwith your take via text, even
though we did not talk on thephone. We were going back and forth
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and text I'm sure and the networktext. Uh. And my argument with
you is like I'd rather see thePaul bro logan Paul do this and the
Paul brothers do this, then that'sboxing guy that you know, because think
about that. Yeah, yeah,the Bagel Boss versus Lenny Dyke show that
that first off, like honored todo it, But second off, we
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looked into that company and then ownsit and we were cringing, and we
didn't look it up until we werethere because we're so jaded by how viral
this thing could go. And thenof course neither one of them show and
thought we were so excited to bethere. It was like one of our
first official like live gig where theywere like, yeah, why did you
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guys commentate the whole thing? Andwe were like dope, and we get
there and it was I can onlycompare it to like, you know when
sometime they do these amateur pro wrestlingand amateur wrestling shows and like uh,
school gymnasiums. Yeah, kind oflike that, but it was like a
random room in a casino and therewas like folding tables and stuff, you
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guys, and plastic chairs for peopleto sit on, and it was like
barely like barely get anybody, likenobody to answer your questions. Yeah,
and like also like they were kindof like flying at the seat of the
pants. They didn't know how theywere paint, like how people were the
box office was working. So it'sjust a line of like pretty sure the
undercard boxers they just picked up offthe street and strapped gloves on, Like
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these guys were that's set up.He was the one that got knocked out
by Screech. Yeah, he wasthe one that got us our chairs.
They're he was five minutes ago.Some one of the guys told us about
his nonprofit that didn't even exist,and I'm just like, what is going
on here? What is happening?I remember the one dude like literally came
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over to us and was like,cause we were interviewing a few of the
boxers that we wanted to talk to. The one dude was like, you
guys want to talk to me?And we were like sure, And I
think as soon as he sat down, I got up and who talked to
him? Somebody? I was likethat was my jerk moment where I was
like, I'm not talking to thisdude, I don't want to talk.
If you got to come over andask if we want to talk to you
know the answer to that question,don't. Hey, I'm such a like,
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at least sell yours out. Youguys want to talk to me,
It's like, what do do youdo? What do you do? Like
you know, oh my god,that we gotta we gotta pay the bills.
Let's take a quick break when wecome back. The viral high school
team that quote unquote got screwed outof going to that state final in basketball,
We're gonna talk about that a littlebit. With all the informations coming
out, guys, the vide liveon Fox Sports. The Gambler scratched all
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the prop that's in the Twins.It's the Gambler. You're listening to the
divide right here on the Gambler.Let's let's get into this basketball situation.
Camden High School against Manusquan High School, two New Jersey teams. Camden a
little more inner city, Manusquan bythe beach. Yeah, never enjoyed playing
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Manasquan. They're tough man for noreason, right, They're annoying, Like
did you say nerdy tough? Well, yeah it is, but so Tuesday
night. I mean, you guys, it's been viral. You guys had
to have seen it. It's beenall on our socials, It's been on
the Gambler socials. It's just it'sone of those things. Controversial loss.
I think the final score was likeforty six, forty seven or whatever.
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Anyway, a buzzer beater happens.Camden was winning by a point. Manusquan
basically had a hail Mary type playwhere they threw it up to try to
get in, but there was stilltime left on the clock, so they
rebounded. They chucked it back upbefore the clock hit zero and boom,
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just like that walk off when uh, the one ref calls the field goal,
good says this is it, andthen all of a sudden you see
the candid coach run over and there'sno time on the clock. You're sitting
there screaming at the ref and thenthey the refs all have a conversation.
Did you see the video of therefs all talking, Yeah, yeah,
just like it's it's here's the thingI can see. I'm trying to look
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at a million different angles. Herenumber one, what looks very bad for
the refs, And I get it. Any coach is gonna run over and
argue that like got you know whatI mean. It's it's a you got
it? Final game? Yeah,even if you think there was, there's
there's no time on the clock.The nj s i A, so the
high school athletic people that run allhigh school of athletics, their their whole
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whatever uh already put out a statementsaying that they're they're not changing the outcome
because the nj s i A theydon't use video reviews. I thought,
and it makes sense. You can'tdo that because then you're just gonna If
you're gonna review one thing, youmight as well review everything. They already
changed the outcome though, like theydidn't blow it dead, you know,
like they so, but go ahead, What do you mean they changed in
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real time? They changed the outcome? Yeah? No, no, but
I'm saying changing from a video reviewthat can change the outcome. Yeah,
and then as soon as the officialsleave the playing area, the game's official.
So the nj si A released thestatement saying just that. Now here's
the stupid part is they also inthat same statement. I don't know if
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you saw it or if you readit, they also said that we showed
the video to the refs, andthe second ref, the one who would
convinced the other ref to call itoff, saying that the ball was still
in the kids hands, said oh, yeah, I made a mistake.
Yeah, of course, and Iget you have to admit it. The
whole world knows it now, tohit the naked eye like it was the
first What it is, It wasn'teven that close. The ball was against
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the backboard as the clock was stillrunning, Like, there's no way you
could have thought that that was stillin his hands. Here's what I think
happened. I think you had acoach run up to you and scream in
your face, and you got nervousand changed the call. Uh No,
yeah, I don't. I don'tknow. I mean, you're living in
the moment, you see what yousee, so you're trying to make a
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great call, like you know,but you know, it felt like,
yeah, the one that convinced themto reverse it, like he was very
passionate about it, like when youwatch the video, he's very passionate,
and it was just like, youknow, but it's the Manasquan screw job
Like, uh no, it's it'syou know, like I said, shout
out to Camden. I hope they, you know, don't take this second
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chance for granted, and I hopethey win States. So mass Squan,
I mean, it's not gonna doanything. But Masquan hired a lawyer to
basically this is crazy. I swearthat hired a lawyer. But what they're
trying to do is put the game, the final game, on hold until
they forced JSA to make the rightdecision. Nothing's going to happen. Yeah,
it's in Black Women. It's justthere's gonna be re play now.
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Because here's the thing I think theyshould in that in that so many in
that situation alone, just like forthe buzzer beater if if it's gonna determine
the outcome of a game, andit's hard, but you know, for
the taking on for playoffs, Ithink it should happen. Yeah, we
talked to Scotty Brown at length abouthow stupid baseball is for not Jersey,
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well no Jersey Jersey high school basketballwithout a shot clock, like how you
get clock? Yeah, and likeit's just it's ridiculous and it's it's made
the game so dumb. But youknow, that's what burned Manusquan though,
right if you look at the boxscore, Manusquan, I mean not anymore.
They had zero points in the fourthquarter. Zero. I swear to
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got zero points because they would havehad two if the basket accounted. They
were up by fourteen going into thefourth and they just tried to hold the
ball game, hold the ball game, hold the ball game, and look
what happened to them. It's just, yeah, there has to be some
type of adjustment with that. It'sit's so stupid. What's crazy is is
I mean, I understand it's gonnaget a little bit of attention, but
like, dude, the fact thatforstool picked it up is absolutely. I
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went viral the second and that that'swhat's cool, Like, you know,
everybody's videotaping it. It can instantlybe uploaded. And I was like,
oh, man, they lost,that's how that's how Camden lost there and
I was like, wait a minute, no, they won, and like,
you know, I don't know howyou celebrate that. I don't know,
Like, that's what it is.Man. If you're the coach and
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of the Camden right you're the coachof Camden right now, and the entire
world hates you for no reason otherthan just supporting your team. And look,
dude, if I was him,I would make the same argument,
like everything happened quick. But noweverybody knows that you should not be there.
I think that's the worst part,especially because you're still dealing with kids,
Like you're dealing with high school students, and now they all know that
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school knows, you know what Imean, Like, yeah, I do.
When they play I think the game'ssupposed to be Saturday. When they
play Saturday, it's like if I'mon the other team, I'm chirping,
like, what are you doing here? You guys don't deserve to be here,
you know what? I mean,like, I think the fact that
the situation is so big is onlygoing to like Camden has no choice but
to go in and absolutely demolish.If you want to make this a movie
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too, like you have to havemanuscon show up dressed. That's been so
that's been talked about, it hasIt has been like manusquant would just show
up because they're playing at We're RuckersPlace. Yeah, I forget what it's
called now Jersey Mike's whatever, butand then have a Yeah, they should
have a friendly with whoever wins.Dude, I'm telling you, it wouldn't
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surprise me if all the entire manssquat team just shows up there dressed to
play. I would, Yeah,I wouldn't. I think. I think
it would be cool with something different, you know, chose Camari with the
team and I have do to beawful. It'd be awful. It would
be absolutely shout out to Camden too, man a heck of a season,
you know, like, and I'mglad we're talking about high school bats.
So let me ask you something,Mike. If you are the coach of
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Camden and this all have it andthis is your team, do you do
the quote right thing? And tryto know the ball bounce, try to
say, hey, like you knowwhat, we don't deserve it. We
can see to manasquan go ahead.No, There's there's three things that transpire.
Either I'm a really great coach andI convinced the ref to change this
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thing, or the ball bounced ourway and I'm sticking by that. Like
actually, I'd be front and centerin the press saying listen, like there's
a human element to this game.We had to get to that to that
point, one seconds remaining, tenseof a seconds remaining to be able to
win this game. Right, Sothe call was made, the officials made
the call. Did they blow thecall? Yeah, but you know how
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many calls are blown that we don'ttalk about, you know, so,
like I would, I would getin front of this and I think they
are, but I would also Iwould not know. I'm I'm I guess
we picked the right coach because Iconvinced the refs that we wont I hate
how much of a salesperson you are? Right now? Yeah, I hate
it. You're right though to toan extent, morals not so much.
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Okay, what would you actually bein a high school coach? And OI
like, hell no, my job'sMy job is to coach the game.
My job to make these decisions.I don't get paid to do that.
No, I'm going to that championshipgame. Whether you think I deserve it
or not, Yeah, no Ido. It's it's tough, man.
It's a delicate thing, right,because you don't want to set the wrong
example as an adult in front ofkids. But at the same time,
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I think telling these kids that theydon't deserve like you know what I mean,
Like, who are you to Look, you're their coach. You're like,
look, guys, people are gonnatalk, but we deserve to be
here just as much as the nextperson. That's that's what you gotta do.
You could also argued that there wasstill time left too, and there
was, yes, well there waslike point it was like enough to basically
in bound the exactly. Yeah,you're throwing a hail Mary up hoping.
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I don't know, but like,dude, it's so absolutely wild, so
wild. I'm wondering if there's gonnabe a protest because those mans On families
that probably not they got money.Yeah, they're so privy. I think
that's why I don't like them.Too. It's just like we're a beach
town. We got the ospray,we get crowned at Fourth of July weekend.
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I do like legg its. Man, these do bingo all the time.
Yeah, on Thursday nights. It'sthe good old days. Sad.
We're gonna do a jersey short tour, Yeah we are. And more details
on that next week. Shout outto the Cut dot com uh for joining
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